The Warhammer CRISIS Gets Worse
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A friendly reminder thst Flames of War, Malifaux, Pike and Shotte, Conquest: TLAoK, SW: shatterpoint/legion, Trench Crusade, One Page Rules, Bolt Action etc etc etc exist. Plenty of options to play wargames, and all of them made by less predatory businesses than GW.
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Amen.
Yes! Make GeeDub's earn your money. Rather than feel they're entitled to it!
Warmachine is back and kicking
Come play Battletech, we'll let you use your marines as proxies.
GW is cutting off their nose to spite their face. If I can’t get it from a LOCAL shop, I just won’t get it. I have a large pile of opportunity to work on and don’t have time for GW’s antics.
Exactly. I agree. I've got a pile of shame to work on then. I'm in no hurry anymore if they're going to be like this. I have friends whose livelihood depends on them and promotes them. This is not the way to treat my friend/owners who actually help sell their stuff.
Absolutely! I stopped spending my own money on GW stuff years ago, only using gift money and only then buying from local stores. I've got enough boxes to last me years with zero chance I'll be buying directly from GW again any time soon.
@@philedwards7331I've stopped buying gw and started buying gundam 😊 I prefer building then painting.
My FLGS can get direct only as he has that attachment to his GW account. It doesn’t come with the same level of discount that general release does but he can still do it. For information it is Gaming Figures in the UK.
@@seanvanderstruys5196 I've got a box full of old Macross models that are next in line for building once I'm more adept with the air brush.
GW did this a few years ago. They eliminated all discounts to third party stores for a while. Put a bunch of guys out of business. Looks like they’re at it again.
But this time, we will propably buy a 3D Printer and shit on GW and theire buffoonery.
The Tom Kirby era....during that time War Machine gained tons of market share.
@@ken52682 and X wing took the crown of best and most sell wargame/tabletop game.
@@burnbobquist8999 can build a desktop injection moulder for like 500 USD, wish I remembered the channel that made it cause I've been looking at making one to make stuff cheaper
As a former gameshop manager, I also know that GW has MINIMUM stock quantities of their products for Local gamestores that you have to maintain if you want to keep getting the stuff at all.... which is also predatory and horrible but also adds a level of malice to their practices that the general public isn't aware of. I should add that the minimum was basically 1-3 of every single product, including codexes they knew were about to go out of print (and they stopped the buyback for old products) and also keeping the paint rack full at at least 6 deep.
Nothing new in marketing going on here, and nothing new for GW, they've done this before........and yet, the FLGS has survived. Take a walk down the breakfast cereal isle, or the potato chip isle, or anywhere else in the supermarket and you'll see the same crowding out of the 'other brand' because of minimum stocking levels specified in contract. Same thing with just about any other product at any other store.
Not true. If you are a (stockist) you have a main line you have to keep in stock and you can return product when new product takes its place. There are very few items that you have to keep multiples of.
Most distributors (which GW technically is) have minimum orders as its not worthwhile dealing with low volume clients. You need to have enough business to warrant the wage you pay the employee to interact with them.
Years ago they also required you to have a certain amount of painted minis on display 'for show' that the shop couldn't really sell.
The amount of hate they have shown for their storefront over the decades.
Like they viewed you as taking a cut of their profits, or something....
Not the backbone of their very business Model... now replaced by Ebay.
I would never buy directly from GW. It costs like 30% more than what I pay in my local store.
That is the point GW wants you to pay them 30% more. If they keep the product out of 3rd party hands you will have to go to them. A better option is to quit buying and playing GW products.
@@kailenmitchell8571you don't have to stop playing if you have an army or 3 already just don't buy new models or add new armies to your collection. Stop playing a game you love isn't going to hurt GW its going to hurt you.
Me, when I went to Japan and compared the price of a HG Gundam to a Tau Riptide, "Ah beans."
That’s why you just get recast.
@@vindik8orI feel like you’re about to tell us it cost more for the Tau Riptide and not just by a little…. So its what a 300-400% increase in comparison to the Gundam….?
Hasbro: "Watch us mess up our relationship with our customers with our swift icy-cool anti-consumer stuntz!"
GW: "Hold my beer! We can do that AND hurt our resellers too!"
As much as a hate GW"s business practices. I'll give them this over Hazbro: to my knowledge they haven't sicked the Pinkertons on anyone yet.
@@kurtroscoe8971yet lol
@@kurtroscoe8971Just wait for it.
@@kurtroscoe8971 Yeah, they haven't yet. But they're trying to find contacts in Interpol or a Private Military Company instead. It's a beer-holding competition, after all!
@@kurtroscoe8971 thats not a high bar... they still sicced legal teams on people in the past repeatedly...
I'm assuming that this may also be in part a way of upping their website visitors following their atrocious 'revamp' of it
Maybe the new store is an attempt to increase inventory by making it harder to find what you want ?
Yeah what fucking muppet designed that trash? I visited for the first time earlier this week to check the new minis and gave up because it is such a dumpsterfire of a website now.
Hopefully they are not THAT stupid. Imagine if that is true and they really think that is better than to rerevamp the store.
Ahhh the very broken website that kept telling me to claim my annual WH+ mini and then would log me out everytime I clicked the link? Well that's just good web design
@@royspeedyharper Oh for love of the Golden Throne! Website is your tsundere you need to slowly get in the mood. Get the hint my dude!
GW extended additional creddit to my local hobby store, to the point where they doubled the range they stocked. After a few months, GW opened their own store ACROSS THE STREET from them. Suddenly all creddit was withdrawn and payment demanded.
Sounds like something they could take them to court for and win as long as there isn’t any sort of fine print that allows this.
Oh hey. I'm in a capital city in the US. There are 7 or 8 game shops in this city. Games Workshop opened a store a few years ago. They closed for lunch and had bad hours. They gave all the local stores a hard time getting the warhammer items until the popular ones where many people bought and had weekly events stopped selling GW. You're correct. GW just makes nonstop bad decisions. The independent stores couldn't get the product if they wanted it and got tired of trying. On the other hand the GW store was just poor and nobody shopped there. So the game went from very popular in this city to newer store workers asking "what is 40k?"
@toorcicefist8018 Here in Australia, there's been a fairly hefty shift away from GW due to these practices.
@toorcicefist8018 A friend runs a GW in my city, near my office. No point in ever going by because he's likely closed at lunch and closes not long after I leave the office...
So I can only buy not play
One of the biggest game stores that I know of in the metro detroit area just dropped games workshop products entirely.
This going to make scalping 1000% percent worse ❤😂❤
just posted a comment stating this , given the recent track record of limited runs on books , sets etc and the anti scalping measures put in place, this will have the scaplers blowing their load at the thought of how much they will make from those unfortunates who suffer from fomo ...
Gw and wotc are always at war to determine who is the greediest
Or the stupidest.
@@homebrewisthebestbrew5270 true
Or from their perspective, they are "Market Innovators" :)
Its WILD to see this coming around again. back in the 90s there was a whole deal with GW official US distributors also being brick and mortar game stores, blocking the competition out of the market. Now it's coming from the mothership itself.
I knew if I scanned far enough down the comments, I would find someone else who remembered that.
@@DarthBop Hello, fellow follower of the Old Ways
I live in North London. There are _ZERO_ independent hobby stores around. I hate it, because if I need anything that isn't a Citadel miniature or paint, I can't get it without ordering online. It's a miserable experience.
So I was elated when I went on holiday to the Czech Republic and found a shop in Plzeň called "Colours of Warriors". I felt cheated, because this shop carries _everything_ you need to do hobby stuff. Magnets, scenery, brushes, sculpting tools, paints, dice, space to paint and game; my local GW store rarely has _glue_ in stock.
And I realised just how sad it is that I can reach that shop in just 12 minutes while walking. I miss it every time I go home. My borough has no trams, no trolleybuses, no direct trains, and buses that get stuck in traffic. And only one piddly little shop that's overpriced, only hosts games for just 2 hours a week, with nothing else until you reach central London, at huge personal cost to do so. Why is life like this?
Welcome to capitalism.
Leisure Games in Finchley gone then? Yeah, 80's there were several Games shops in London, then GW Retail started cribbing GW Wholesale's homework and opening shops near existing Games Shops and by near I mean usually in about 100 yards away), pretty much killed off most of them. A few lingered a while thanks to the arrival of M:TG and other card games but it was a slow death for them, often cutting staff, cutting costs, cutting opening hours. Leisure Games was the only one that survived the 90's because they successfully launched a Web Store.
I've not used a GW product since.
Lion Rampant/Dragon Rampant are my prefered go to games now.
@@TallDarknGruesome Its more corporatism, what passes for capitalism these days would have Adam Smith rolling in his grave, and we aint talking dice.
Leisure Games seems like a nice place, but it's still well over an hour away from where I live. It's absurd how rare these shops are, as well as how poor public transport infrastructure and cycle routes are in London (unless you specifically want to go in or out of central London...).
Almost all shops are franchises; I needed magnets last month - Wickes, Homebase, The Works, Hobbycraft, GW, WH Smiths... these are the _only_ shops around, in multiples, and none of them sell them. I walk into just _one shop_ in Plzeň, and they have a bigger range than Element Games! And they aren't even the only model shop. They literally thrive because GW hasn't set up shop there.
And the best bit? Frenchies is on the next corner from them, and they do the _best_ English breakfast you'll ever eat. They even make the baked beans from scratch! This is why I love independent shops.
@@jon-paulfilkins7820True, capitalism isn't always the same. This here feels a lot like the unhinged Manchester type.
This is why I support 3d scanning and printing of GW stuff. They want to screw over the consumer and show no loyalty, thus there is no reason for consumers to show loyalty to GW. More people need to do what Majorkill is doing. Make knock off, slightly different versions of GW stuff and sell it outside the GW brand strangle hold.
Go one step further:
Send that money to an Artists instead.
Find them all over the place online, and if you commission them to make a custom army for you... no one else will have that army! That is something Game Workshop could have offered their customers over a decade ago, and turned down because it meant retooling. If your vane enough, consider having the artist put your own face on the hero unit of your choosing!
Mine are going to be Power-Armoured Lizard-boys and Redcoat wearing Rat-folk.
Cause... why not?!
👍@@lostbutfreesoul
sail the STL seas lad. Also check for recasters.
I've just been buying (comparatively) cheap resin casts from various sources. I kind of like the added step of making sure everything fits well and is flush, etc. I do buy GW stuff from local stores though.
GW may want to force me to buy through their website, but I will personally still support my local store and buy through them. If GW are fine with re-releasing twenty year old models, then I don't mind waiting for the new ones.
*Laughs in pirate voice*
being a former gameshop owner, i gotta tell you i never saw ANY LFGS that was being kept afloat by GW product. Usually Magic and other card games are the lifeblood of most LFGS stores.
The LFGS owner I used to talk to (and this was a large store, in a major City center) always said that even MTG wasn't much of an earner... Yugi-Oh was where the money was for him, all the kids with their pocket money kept him afloat.
@@Senbei01 I agree. No matter what game (magic, Yu-Gi-Oh, or Pokemon). It's usually one of those big three or a combo of all three keeping the stores up
@@Senbei01 My FLGS's have all seen MTG/FNM on the decline for over 5 years now. There are so many more other offerings that keep them in $, and Yugi has always been a consistent earner.
For me Pre-Orders am just FOMO my local shop is kept up by Bolt-Action and Yugi-Oh and Mordiem and Necromunda not 40k or AoS
Problem with mtg is that hasbro doesn't treat all parts of the world equal.
My friends and I decided to get off the GW dataslate roller coaster when 10th edition was announced. We just play 9th edition now. No changes to the meta every 5 minutes. There are cheap codexes available everywhere. I also have a 3D printer and print my own proxies. When we buy any models we only buy second hand models. We all decided that GW would not get another dollar from us while they treat the gaming community so badly (we have no LGS in our area). Our gaming group has never been happier
I've literally been grabbing full box sets off eBay, was lucky enough to get a few boxes where they were still on sprues for the most part as well.
Who else replayed the few seconds of the video where Discourse says "Warlord Titan Nipple"?
some my happiest days as a young man was meeting my cadre of buddies at the local game store. setting up on a woobly table and gaming the day away. tragic that it has come to this
Yes.
Thank you for keeping me informed!
The irony of 40K being a satire and poking fun at Thatcherite Britain to only becoming a cutthroat capitalist enterprise is kind of on point.
Wow....never saw it like that but you are absolute right. I started in 1990 (aged 17) with rogue trader and playing actually motivated me to improve my English (I am german), but the ultra capitalist methods ruined it for me....
Your comment is 100% correct. Cheers and have a good one.
40k hasn't been satire for over 2 decades. This is just a meme political types tell themselves in order to cope with playing 40k. "It's just one big joke!" Also why they tend to cream themselves over AoS, which has minimal lore and rather boring/marvelesque faction motivations when compared to Fantasy.
@@clinch4402 calm down...
@@sandymastermind2669 You're German. You don't know what calm means.
@@clinch4402 don't be angry. Maybe it will get better over time. Try not to insult people or project your problems into comments of people you don' t know. Maybe that will help.
Remember when they wouldn't let online retailers even show their products, and you had to call or email them to place orders?
That was a classic....
no
I recently played in an mtg tourney where all the warhammer stuff was literally 50-60% off. Just a box full of contrast paints and a shelf of marines rotting in the corner. Was absolutely wild to see. Those folks were absolutely not being kept afloat by GW
The thing that sucks for me is my lgs refuses to order any new wargaming products unless they are paid for upfront and there’s no guarantee as when it will arrive. Then my local gw store started falling off the rails for me by just not feeling as welcoming as before.
The only WH store near me (next one is over 1200km away) has some very helpful ppl. but one awful employee who makes going in there unpleasant. So I empathize.
Gw leicester has been less welcoming over the past few years. I remember a time when they let gaming go on during weekdays but now they only let people game at weekends.
This is definitely to drive more volume to their website, which they wrongly assume has low volume because of our loyalty to our friendly local game stores, but is just much or more because their website is positively dreadful because their product development, marketing, and rules release strategy is a disorganized super-mess.
If i cant buy at my local gameshop.... i wont buy at all. Prices + Shipping is simply to much....
Guess im full in on 3d printing then... Getting a printer (already have one) and making your own stuff, is pretty much like 25% the price, and there is a ton of talented creators out there making miniatures that looks a lot like the GW stuff, close enough to be almost the same, but still differnt enough to not breach copyright.
Just printed out 100 Krieg Guards Men, a Rogal Dorn Proxy, 2 Field ordenance batteries and 3 Heavy Wepon teams. from stationforge.... Files, Resin and and printer combined was 450£.... and the printer iself was the 250£ and thats a one time thing....
I would be 450£ + Shipping just to get 100 Cadian Shock Troops,, 3 heavy weapons teams and a rogal Dorn from GWs store.
I love the GW stuff, models are awesome and all....but not THAT awesome.
After reading the second line I wanted to comment that "and if you're running Krieg, you're probably in the green by the time your second print is finished", and then I read the rest of it, haha. Most GW armies at this point will cost you more than a standard resin printer, resin, and the STLs combined, so adding "and now you have to import Warhammer if you don't have a local GW store, or if it doesn't have what you need in stock" really makes it not even debatable.
Glad to see 3D printing really hold up nowadays, it's right on time.
@@Bakecrusto Yeah if we are talking "original" Krieg.... the price blows up a LOT lol..
100 Kriegsmen are 540£....i mean COME ON...Why??
My son is nuts about Warhammer, and I just built a full-size gaming table for us to play on, yet GW seems hell-bent on chasing us out of the hobby via outrageous pricing and shiddy business practices
Give a song of ice and fire from cmon a go. It's really low fantasy (so that might not be your thing), but it is a great miniature war game with outstanding rules!
Yes. And the rules are balanced 1 or 2 times each year, for all the factions at the same time. The rules are free and there is no codex creep. The companion app is great and free. The models are preassembled with no options so if you like building models it's not the same. But on the plus side, no build options means that the models will forever be relevant. Not like with Warhammer 40k where you don't know if in the next edition GW will make the build they were previously encouraging obsolete or illegal because they decided buying new models isn't enough. You have to build the one you already bought again... With asoiaf you can just enjoy the game at your own pace. If you want to play with updated rules, all you have to do is print the latest version of the tactic cards you plan to use (14 per faction + 6 per commander) and slide them in your sleeved cards, update the app and you are good to go. Models are not cheap considering they are prebuild but it cost way less than GW mosels and all factions have an affordable starter box to begin with.
A. Though I can't post a link, the starter tier of One Page Rules patreon is only $5 (or your local currency equivalent), and you don't even need to pay for any of that you just need a free army pdf and some appropriate non-brand specific models...........just thought I'd mention that
B. 10:48 GW arent required to be a massive bag of phalluses to their customer/fan base......but here we are
I can't help thinking this is going to be making the scalping situation a shit-ton worse.....
I was thinking the same thing or 3D printing
Or the resin printing situation Much Better!
@@user-cf1ic2rc3r
Not sure about that, GW has been bullying a lot of creators that did not make clones but proxies with different names in the recent months...
@@user-cf1ic2rc3r I'm not really hot on all the new printing techniques out there - for some reason I thought all 3D printers used resin 😂.
@@spuriusligustinus4509 they will find a way round it and do it right under GW nose, 😂
One other group will do well, scalpers. Now everything is a special limited release
yeah i can see that happening, once GW has made it to the point where you can ONLY get 40k stuff direct from their website the scalpers are going to have a field day from that point on. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if many of the scalpers are backed by GW to get even more money with selling to desperate players that way.
But for scalpers to thrive, they need high demand. And the way GW is screwing with the stores that are a primary venue, I can see that demand going down.
"GW so evil, your FLGS will die! Oh.. and here.. get this 3d printer."
If only they did not have such a hold on the LGSs. There are 2 main IPs that keep hobby stores going here, GW and M:TG. Losing one of them can shut down the store. Which makes you wonder if it really was a successful business, even if they operated for 10+ years, if they cannot afford to shift.
I think the problem is that most of the stuff you might sell at a store like these isn't stuff you buy regularly. It's similar to running a store selling musical instruments; you're not going to sell fifteen guitars or twelve trumpets every week, but you can sell strings and picks and all the little bits and bobs people need for their instruments.
You can only sell what people want to buy, as Warhammer is so popular, a large portion of sales comes from that
Not only does it kill FLGS stores but when they close it denies their competitors access to local store fronts. I.E. Army Painter, Vallejo, Star Wars legion etc. And once FLGS store are absent from an area it limits locations for players to meet and play outside a GW store. So if can only go the GW store to play 40k you won't be able to play with your 3D proxies to play.
GW stores round my way don't let you play in their stores, they only use their tables for Demo games and open days.
GW stores stopped having games being played altogether aside from demo ones, so new players will have a harder time finding other players and having a game when there are no FLG stores anymore.
My local gw store don't like you playing in there on weekdays. I have a better chance playing warhammer at my local confucious institute as long as I'm with chinese friends and playing in mandarin. Which I have mandarin notes for in my note book.
This chick has said Warhammer is gonna die for the last few years. She needs to find a new bit, it's getting tiresome now.
Whatever, they''ve been trying to squeeze out independent retailers since 2005. Maybe those tactics work in the UK where GW has the hobby store market cornered, but its never panned out here in the US.
GW: consume product, give us money :D like allways. Have a nice weekend ms. discourse!
Why I'm only doing 3d Printing going forward.
Is there any stock? Webstore always empty. Where are the models?
tell me you misunderstand what GW is aiming for without telling me you misunderstand what GW is aiming for.
What i don't get is that where i live the only GW store is tiny. I know 3 flgs that are much larger and have heaps of space for events and games. I want to buy from the store that is hosting my games, not the GW shop with 2 tables that are usually for demo games.
Without gaming spaces there is no warhammet
That Magritte reference was AWESOME 😂
This is a another massive nail in the coffin of GW especially here in Australia.
for you, everything is WORST
It's more like a frog boiling in hot water
Everytime i have ordered anything from their shops in England, it has been a horrible frustrating mess. Toll issues. Delivery issues and damage to goods. I have in my 20+ years of Warhammer gaming never ever gotten a delivery from them without issues that lead to a massive headache. And Brexit seems to have only made it worse. Now all the time UPS or DHL are the ones to deliver the stuff, rather than the trusted national mail. And UPS i hate more than Corax hates Lorgar.
So i guess i can wait a year or two till things are in my game stores, or just spend my money on other stuff, at my local gamestores.
GW draws the noose around the whales tighter and tighter. This is maybe not even a move to kill FLGS, but a move to bind whales fully to the GW website.
as someone from the gunpla modelkit community. This is going to be so much worse for you guys than you think.
For us it started with a few kits being official bandai online store exclusives, which they justified by saying that the kits were based on to obscure designs, to be able to sell them at retail. As time went on however, more popular kits started becoming online store exclusive. Then the amount of regular retail releases started dropping.
Now we are in a situation where almost no new regular retail releases are being made. The online store exclusive kits rarely get reprinted. And most of the world still does not have access to the online store. So the only options to buy new kits is resellers, scalpers and shipping small packages around the globe. Causing massive price increases, on to of which you then have to pay import fees.
None of my local FLGS have heard of this and they are all large GW sellers
Thanks!
thanks Henry ;)
3D printing is your friend lets hope local game stores embrace this and start providing gear for 3D printing and even a 3D printing service, imagine kids not going to a now non existent GW store for painting lessons but toalocal games Stortford a 3D print lesson.
GW stores:
no games with minis we don't sell (recently none at all)
Local stores:
No games with minis we don't sell (i.e. no GW supply, no GW games)
GW: Pikachu face
Why? Stores sell *their* products, they're not charity clubs for free gaming space.
I've walked away a few times. The latest one was GW charging for an app that needed the latest codex anyway to access the other units in the app.
Gee, I wonder if this'll, oh I don't know, *_DRIVE_* $$ Strapped Gamers into the Hands of 3D Printed Wargaming Models (???)
They have done this before. There was a law suit opened by a guy in Florida some 6-8 years ago about similar circumstances. I did read the law suit as it was a matter of public record. That is where I found out that a single box of mini's costs Games Work shop all of 0.25 cents to have manufactured, packaged and shipped to their home office in Memphis Tennessee. Can you say 50,000 percent markup?
The Nearest Warhammer shop is an hours drive via the motorway, my local 3rd party store is a 10 minute drive away via a b road. 40% of their stock is GW related, 70% of their customers come for that stock. Royal mail are a pain in the backside for those with a job when ordering a parcel. I rely heavily on 3rd party stores.
None of my local shops can confirm this. Quite the opposite actually.
It would be wonderful if another company could make the most of this and take away shelf space from GW
Have they considered upping production?
are you crazy? stop talking about sensible business decisions, only limited products and FOMO is the goal!
Weirdly I had the opposite happen the other week - I wanted the new Horus Heresy art book and assumed with it being limited to 6500 copies it would be direct-only. Then after purchasing one I realised loads of FLGS sited had got some for sale for 20% off.
Admittedly after postage I'd have saved a fiver and they're currently being scalped on eBay for £150, but still it would be nice to know whether items are going to be direct only. I want the new 30K campaign book but again have no idea whether FLGS will get stock.
13:42 This is the song about Games Workshop, they went direct and killed my local store, they triiiiied to kill me with a forklift...
They tried that back in the 90's. Purchase from their store, online and if you wanted to order from a store, you had to wait until the store had a minimum of $250. I worked in a store at that time.
"I'm on the border of Belgium, asking the Germans to stop" made me lol
I think the issue is that the decision makers don't realize is that outside the UK, the density of Warhammer stores is only a fraction of what it is there, and that in many places some 3rd party FLGS is the only place people can go, in person, to buy stuff and meet other gamers. And for those FLGS owners, why would they dedicate any amount of time and tables to games they can't sell? The answers is that they probably won't. They'll try to push their customers to buy and play stuff that they actually can sell.
There's plenty of potential customers in Latin America but the nearest store to my country is in Florida, WTF.
They barely even acknowledge their Spanish speaking customers not even bothering translating most of their novels and codexes
I was quite into warhammer when I was younger, but my enthusiasm kinda died when the local store closed. Checking out the models after school was the best thing about the hobby
Here is hoping this results in customers moving towards other systems and away from GW's predatory practices.
It is maybe ojey in UK or western europ or US where there are actual GW stores. But how do you get something from GW dorectly if you don't have stores, and the VAT tax on toys is 23% in your country?
I'm confused as to why small stores don't just adopt a policy of printing orders directly from their own onsite/in-store farms and sell to customers that way. Then people can use the store as we all intend. print, paint,play.
I don't understand why GW isn't selling STL files directly itself.
I guess it is cheaper to press plastic and call them originals? The markup must be colossal.@mpfbomber
@@twistedmonkey2645 Definitely, considering that many of GW's miniatures do actually cost more than their weight in silver. Not kidding.
Let's see for how long, considering the global recession and that the air is getting thinner even for whales.
A 3D printer sponsor when talking about the upcoming closure of game stores was an interesting choice.
I can't even order old models off their site without them getting refunded.
I got myself a 3d printer and my gw spending dropped to like 5% of what I used to. Thanks for the incentive to snag myself a small printer. I went from 1 army of 1 faction to 12 armies of 8 factions.
Regarding Old World boxes, do you mean restocks at this point? Because my FLGS does have Old World Boxes from the initial release.
I just went to my local store last week and they had old world boxes. So IDK where this coming from
Probably just a few stores who didn't get allocations and are shouting about it
@@kudosbudo or it's just not as much as a crisis as ppl make it out to be. With the 3d printing pandemic as I call it (kind of a joke) it's always good to make it seem that way lol
The longterm result of this might be for GW to move Warhammer onto virtual platforms, turning it into a live service video game.
They could have done that years ago to massive profits but have been demanding it stay as a tabletop game. That would be a huge win for the fans who can't buy $1000 miniatures, no one will take full-priced Warhammer on PC seriously.
@@adelaideharper9201 Besides, Tabletop simulator already exists.
I pre-ordered The Old World from GW direct and I did not get my stuff until 2 weeks after release, their excuse was the warehouse was behind, yet one of my LGS had it in on release day.
Nothing new under the sun; they did this in 1988-89 as well, and probably at least once since then too. This serves to remind us all that there are other suppliers of such things that deserve closer inspection
Given the status of war at non Gw stores do you think it’s safe to go to them or no?
"Erin", well done, you now find yourself crusading for the retail stores as well ! ! !
It's the same thing they did when they came up with the GW stores, the physical locations. They marked up the products to third party, and then undercut them with their store fronts.
My wife and I stopped into a nearby Warhammer store to browse yesterday. A guy came in and asked for bases for Warhammer Old World. The manager immediately said, nope...online only. Why would GW not even stock their own stores, for a newly released product no less?!
Do you recommend the alien- marines game? Is it similar to space hulk? ( in the sense that it would be based on a ship)
I do yeah! I had an entire video review on patreon :)
Disourse (or anyone else), with regard to the elegoo, since you said you use one; we just recently turned down the opportunity to buy one second-hand (mate of a mate bought it rwecently, but had to get rid of it due to family reasons), and we'd done so because from my son's reading up, it still isn't something you can use in the house. (Unlike our FDM Prusa Mk3i3, which serves all out model purposes except really for 144th (10/12mm) infantry.) We were under the impression that resin printers were still a "garage" thing (because of the fumes, if not the smell). Have you found that to be the case?
Fun fact: in my local gamestore two years ago the manager put a survey to know if regular warhammer buyer were willing to pay the same price than game workshop. The reaction was massively ok because he was a third party retailer and it would help him staying aflot. But that's the trick he's a third party retailer, a friendly man, was struggling to keep the buisiness open. And very important, we had a lot of discussion about the pricing. Game Workshop is not third party, not friendly, not struggling with money AND not discussing with customers. So FU GW.
I´m pretty sure this is due to their ongoing production/delivery shortage - they were looking for a way "out" and chose the worst one. The best one would have been communication. They will sail back on this when they can - but noone knows when - at least a year as it seems.
They're positioning for the movie to drop.
They did this before from 5th to 8th edition when you could only buy GW online from themselves only.
An even bigger problem is that any order directly from warhammer get royally fucked with at customs if you live outside of the UK. It's like playing roulette with customs fee and VAT every time you order.
its like watching teleportation in slomo when 3d printer spawns out yet another speischmahrin.
Sounds like they're scamming with the scalpers.
I am a retailer and what you said is partly true. It doesnt apply to all regions of the world. Something big happened at the gw merchandising position last year that generated huge changes. pm me if you want the details.
Thankfully, there are other miniature wargames available, and why do I suddenly have the urge to drink grog and shout yohoho?
Seems like GW is using the Victorian British business model.
What you are describing is completely normal issue for companies run by CEO's that aren't founders themselves. What is important is next bonus, whether company exist 2 weeks after is of no concern for them. Even most shareholders do not care beyond that.
8:37 I just realized 3D printers sound a bit like a dot matrix. We've come full circle.
and yet my local shop's Battletech shelf keeps on growing
Meanwhile there's companies like Wyrd (Malifaux and The Other Side) that does exclusive alternate models that you can only get from purchasing stuff at local stores.
One page rules get them other armies out ASAP
Was that a screenshot from a Neil Breen movie?
Don't buy direct from GW, kids! Get your 40k minis second hand and use proxies whenever possible.
In early 2000' I used to paint new releases for the official warhammer store in Milan and the monthly release day was such an event. We received the new products in advance (a month before the official release) because GW wanted the customers to see the new minis shiny and painted at Day 1.
No scalpers, no FOMO, the focus was only on the new minis and the hobby itself. And they made good money from it, GW has never been a charity.
Now, despite having an official warhammer store close to me, the magic of the day 1 of a new release is gone. GW don't send minis in advance anymore to the store, the showcase cabinet is just a collection of the employees' personal minis. GW should really riconsider the way they promote and sell their miniatures.