Blood Bowl, the brutal game that is also the most optimistic and utopian GW world. All these violent factions that coexist in a cosmopolitan world without devolving into wars of extermination! It's a damn miracle.
I fondly remember the days of fansites with wacky team lists before GW's lawyers killed them all. Still have my Dark Angels BB team that has fallen back through time :-D
nah, to heck with that - give me multipart plastic sprues again (like the firstborn SM captain) - multiple sculpts in one box and it gives you bitz (magnetizable or bashable) when you're done.
For my money the Chaos Terminator Lord from 4th edition is still the undisputed champion of HQ design. Every bit from that sprue is amazing. Damn, but I hate that mono pose crap
@@adamcline8728 for real, the captain came to mind only because he had so many bitz but honestly, chaos terminator lord takes the cake for design coolness.
Prices to get in to 40k armies is insane win people say they are interested in the game they see how much they will need to spend on models alone they are taken back then all the rules they usually say no way. Kill team is a much more affordable option witch isn't to bad to get started. However when you want to play 40k and no one near you plays it sucks. We have a gw store in my city but it is hardly big enough just to walk through .
I like that these guys, the Halflings, and the Snotlings are all very light on the football details, so they can actually translate into Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar, meaning that, for an enterprising converter, your Cities of Sigmar and Gloomspite Gitz have more little dudes to add to them
Okay, considering they are making meme models still, and in an official capacity instead of holiday gobbos, it is kinda nice. I love the cobra chicken and badger models. Not enough to bring me back, but it is nice to see them "innovate."
"And I'm genuinely surprised that Games Workshop are not hiding these rules behind a subscription-based app." A few seconds later... "But what do you think? Why not tell me this weekend in my Patrons-only livestream?" Hmm. 🤔 In truth, I'm deeply concerned that GW is leaning heavily to fixed models and fixed datasheets, with no variety in how things play. •The kits are less and less customisable with each edition. Even metal models could pose their arms! •The points are now Power Level 2.0 with preset unit sizes. There are fewer model options and more unique models, just like you said. Combi-weapons and power weapons are the greatest example of that. •Army subfactions are being thinned out. That's why there's this push for "paint doesn't matter" and upgrade sprues over separate kits. We already lost the force organisation chart and armoury. This is next. •There's a constant cycle of FOMO, being fed by the lack of reliably discounted boxes. Remember the Start Collecting! range? They were replaced with the inferior Combat Patrol line, which in itself has gotten worse in its second wave. You aren't going to buy the £150 Christmas box when you could get three much better Start Collecting kits. But without them, your only other option is the barely discounted Combat Patrol box. Which looks better? •They're also pushing to make the game more palatable for mainstream audiences. But that's not a committed relationship. Once hype dies down, they move onto the next big thing. If Warhammer changes the game just for them, they'll lose both that new audience _and_ the existing one. 40K will become Pogs, not Poggers. •There's a bubble coming. There's rapid growth in all directions - games, streaming, merchandise, models; GW haven't prepared for this. No business does. And then the bubble pops. Best case, some execs go and things go back to roughly where it was before. Worst case, they bleed money after trying to constantly pump out models to a world with less and less money, the banks call in those business loans, and now they're in the red and bought up by Amazon as they already had interest in the IP after the streaming deal. •Bonus - I wish they'd stop basing the bloody rules on tournament play. Patch bugs. Don't rewrite the whole game. Just look at aircraft. Are we just going to stop using them now?
I disagree on the custodes, I don't need more shield captians but releasing some of or forge world things in plastic would have been an auto win. A battleforce box with a centerpeice unit of Galatus or Achillus Dread sounds way more cool then just 6 more bikes and some terminators.
3:32 The extended talk about Blood Ball Gnomes compels me to mention Guild Ball again. Plenty of cute animals playing football. No repeated sprues. Each player is a distinct character with a unique sculpt
The flash of Highlander II on the side was precious! I lived through everything else just to be a tried and true Battletech player. Warhammer has it's issues but enough said.
I actually figured out how GW should sell rules and Codexes etc. ages ago. What they should do is sell a Codex as a nice A4 Binder with some faction specific rules in it and a copy of the current core rules on full colour punched cards with nice art etc... With me? Then they sell packs of datasheets that will fit into said folder for legacy models. Maybe give you the key characters and battle line infantry free with the Codex. Then, when they bring out a new model, you get a nice A4 glossy punched card datasheet with your model, which you put in your folder. Before you go to a games night or tournament you remove and leave at home all the data sheets for models you don't own or aren't taking. When they do a balance data slate, they sell a nice glossy card punched copy you can stich in your folder. When they bring out new rules - they sell a supplement you can add to your folder. What I'd really like to see them do is get someone who wrote chess AI engines to make them a 40k simulator program, that maybe uses hexes rather than inches for simplicity and has an AI that can play against itself with all factions and units millions of times. So THEN, they plug all the current units and factions in and get the AI to play a ton of games against itself to make some data - then use that data to balance the datasheets. That done, when they want to release a new unit they plug it into the Sim and make sure it doesn't ruin the balance before they release it. They could then even use the Sim to make a digital online version of 40k and could sell digital minis for that game and give you a free digital mini if you bought the physical model. They could also let you have a 24 hour free loan of any digital mini so you could try it to see how it played before you bought it then spent hours building and painting. I should work at GW, but sadly I don't think they'd hire me.
What is the P&L (Profit and Loss) on physical codex/army books? It could be that the profit margin for physical codex and army book releases have become so thin that even another price hike would not return the profits the shareholders demand. I see that as a more likely scenario then GW putting out "free" rules.
GW could shift and do books with illustrations and artwork (no rules) for their various games and various factions found within each game at a price point starting around $150 per book. This price point has a nice healthy profit margin. These books will be a limited run in order to capitalize on that FOMO/Collection marketing that GW does prefer in their business model. Color me surprised this has not already been done by GW. From a business perspective this looks like a missed opportunity and money left on the table.
What ended up killing 40k for me was at the end of 6th ed, not only did Tyranids get a horrible codex, but when 7th edition came out less then 6th months later the rules for the codex obviously were not written in regards to the new edition that they already had at the printers. In addition, the codex didn't have the new formation rules, so GW decided that making players pay $15 for a digital datasheet that contained about 1 page of actual rules for the new formations (for Tyranids only, other armies got to pony up $15 each). The money gouging was disgusting, and this coming from a Magic the Gathering player.
Hey, I play Blood Bowl. Really chose poorly this year for Adepticon and will get to play no Blood Bowl this year. Next year some different choices will be made. Already have Skaven 7s, humans, and vampires to paint up. But those Gnomes are cute and there is a temptation. May have to look at that Warped miniature team down the road.
"hold up those are not gnomes," i say as i watch. then i check, and yeah those are warp's halfling team! they recently released a beauuuuuuuutiful gnome army as well - without particular blood bowl options but still.
Gnomes from the Dragonlance setting were steampunk type cursed inventors that spoke really fast. Their inventions mever worked so that they made lifeboats that doubled as ship anchors, that sort of thing
Doubling up the sprue means there might be spare geese and badgers being sold online at least. The lack of nipples is due to Nurgle rotting them off before Slaanesh could do something weird with them.
If it helps, the Soulblight 2.0 AoS Battletome was released as a physical book *one week* before the launch of AoS 3.0. The 2.0 Path to Glory campaign rules were a literal waste of printed pages as the 3.0 FAQ invalidated them immediately. The marauder models fell to "worst old model still in production" after the poor, maligned zombies got their desperately needed redesign. Between the new Darkoath and the recent Cities of Sigmar redesign it looks like GW spilled some of that sweet, sweet grimdark into the AoS world, as the Darkoath seem a dark mirror of the AoS, where both showcase the poor normal, regular humans in a world of gods, reforged Stormcast, daemons, the undead, Kragnos and so on.
10:00 I still find it so funny that if you crop out the ork stompa from the battlebox it would be a good starting point for an ork army! Eh whilst your at it chuck out the new ork boys and chuck in the old ones and you have yourself there a good start to an ork army! A few other vehicles and old boys you can grab later to round it off and its a fairly good list! But no, they chuck in the worse unit ever created in the history of warhammer into it just for shits and giggles. 800 pts and BS5+ btw
Want to take bets on the percentage of the Darkoath boxes that get based for The Old World, and not AoS? Because those would make great Chaos Marauders for a WoC Old World army, too...
They wouldn't make great Chaos Marauders. Firstly Marauders aren't puny and actually have a bit of warhammer character to to them and have the beginnings of becoming a Chaos Warrior. Secondly because they're gonna sell these at £32.50-£35 for 10 models so no one is gonna be able to afford them as 20 man units.
Blood bowl world cup in Alicante Spain had like 3000+ players. Blood bowl has a big and very passionate community. It's only small ocompared to 40k and Sigmar.
I make pretty damn good money and was stoked that an LGS opened up in my town. I was super excited to FINALLY get into warhammer, but was blown away by the absolute ridiculous price point. It's not just high... its fucking INSANE. Add to that, it's an absolute MESS of product development, editing, missing text or notes. It's quite literally a box of garbage that you're supposed to hand over hundreds of dollars for, MULTIPLE times, just to play the farking game. And don't get me started on the fact that it's the dumbest damn set of rules i've ever seen in my life. Hoooollyyyy shiat. I think it's crystal clear they 1) Don't product test, 2) don't review documents/packaging, and 3) price the product from the perspective of 'company profit need' rather than 'how can we get this in the most hands'. The whole farking product line is a complete mess from top to bottom. I'll check back in later and hope they get this absolute train wreck of a product worked out.
the rulebook supplement is 28 pages so that's probably why it is free. The code dark angels supplement is 96 pages and it is probably the lowest price item on their list.
Gnomes as I remember from white dwarf WHFR fluff in the 80s are only a little less Populous than Halflings and were employed as jester in the Imperial Court.
Such a weird set. Whoever is making choices is really destroying the company, same goes with blizz and a lot of companies. We need people to not go too college I am guessing.
I’m still chapped after the time in 2015-2016 when GW released two knight codices (and a new box, which was the old box with a new missile launcher sprue) in less than a year of each other. Bad form.
To give hem their due, the time between the release of the big boxes and the individual kit releases does seem to have come down from 3 months+ to about a month as seen by the recent Kill Team and Deathwing Assault boxes. Granted it would have been nice of GW to let us know in advance that the wait would only be around a month but this would not fit with their tried and tested marketing (although it would go some way to combat the scalpers). It does appear that GW are starting to listen to their consumer base (although they are still way behind the likes of Corvus Belli and Mantic) as evidenced by the fact we now get to see the painting presenters again.
Your clickbait negativity is exhausting. It just feel bad vibes on a fun hobby. I know GW needs to be kept in check, but you take it so far. Just share your passion for the hobby, give us cool POV news and share your love of the hobby. Stop with the hatemongering please.
@@bohortProblem is that in both cases, the breakfast is now almost indistinguishable from the roadkill thanks to the breakfast provider actively trying to mimic the roadkill.
As old Donny Rumsfeld once said: _"There are Gnome Gnomes; there are things we Gnome we Gnome. We also Gnome there are Gnome un-Gnomes; that is to say we Gnome there are some things we do not Gnome. But there are also un-Gnome un-Gnomes -the ones we don't Gnome we don't Gnome."_ ... or maybe it was Gnome Chomsky?
The Custodes are so goddamn awful. They look like something an overeager 8 yeard old would design. When they were first released, they were so obviously wrong and awfully sculpted -- surprisingly for a GW kit, their limbs didn't even fit well -- that I was sure people would scoff. And the golden paintjob looks terrible. I mean, I'm no fan of Stormcasts, but they can be made to look good, whereas Custodes are just awful, camp, kitsch crap. They can't even pull glam off well, they sure aren't Ziggy Stardust! Yet *some* people seem to like them, which I find really puzzling. So GW: 1, me: 0 I guess?
The Custode model is growing on me. His spear is a melta and the shield is a bonus (and maybe his shield is super special). He may be a bit Chonky but so was that one Black Templar guy, lol. He is very distinct from Valerian and lets us know Melta spears, or at least on this guy, will be available in the new dex. But I get why people don't like him. Plus, it gives hope of future loadouts for a new unit like Spears and Shields. I forgot what they are called in 30k.
I think the Olsen Twins are both Elizabeth trying for some reason to make us believe that they are two. Important things aside, these gnomes are so good that I'm thinking about start playing Blood Bowl just to play them. I love the fox, he's literally Swift from David the Gnome! And the Chaos guys are nice but I find AoS rules dispersed in such an absurd and confusing number of books with weird names that it keeps me away from the game even when I love the models.
I'm so glad you reminded me that a new edition of AOS is coming soon. Been looking at the Flesh-eaters court for a while since the new models look really good. Be just my luck to get back into AOS with a new army and rulebook just to get hit with a new edition clean-sweep.
They have done Orks bad model wise, rules wise and lorewise. They used to be a major player with some comedy. The whole, "If all orks were ever to come together under one banner, the galaxy would fall" type stuff. Then, since the beginning of 8th edition, they have just taken the "Fall Guy", mook side. Pretty much, if any army needs to show how much of a threat it is, it beats Orks. Nids wiped out the Orks biggest empire, even though it was said to be a stalemate between two species that could grow despite each other's chemical, biological or radiological machinations. Then, GW is just like, "Orks need to lose to show the nid threat, uh, make micro nids that can eat Ork spores". No BS, that is what happened in the story, Orks lost because, magically, there are single cell nids. At every turn, they just lose, even though it was them that fought and sealed the most ancient evil in the galaxy away. Not the Imperium/humans/derivative(65 million years late), not the Eldar(weak and sad failed experiment), not Tau(didn't exitst), not nids(not here yet), not chaos(didn't exist yet). No, it was the Orks that beat the Necrontyre and the Star Gods. Yet, these days, in the story, they are just trash, fall guys. I am still waiting for the expansion fo the storyline where Trazyn the Infinite's Krork gets released.
Also, am I the only one who really wants 40k Bloodbowl? Come on, Space Marine style football helmets... Necrons in player jerseys... AdMech cheerleaders.... Releasing a model of the emperor of mankind on the golden throne, wearing a beer helmet?
biggest scam for me, was 4 Warp spiders, and an exarch, single poses, made in the early 90s, now in failcast, for 30 quid, and if you want a unit of 10, you need to buy 3 boxes.
As a fellow Blood Bowl player, I can say the gnomes have raised several eyebrows, especially given the hinted starting skills. Seriously, Wrestle and Jump up on ALL linemen as a starting skill would be huge on any team, but getting Guard players as well... Finally a stunty team Dwarfs don't rush eagerly to farm spp from. Blood Bowl is very 3rd party friendly as far as models go. Many manufacturers pride themselves on unique poses for every player on their teams. I can also say that from experience, most event organizers don’t have or flat out ignore the "only GW models" rule at official events
Darkoath are the expansion of Warcry, so over the next 5-8 years expect more of the early Warcry to bigger Units , in two years I predict Cypher lords will be Hugh once they expand the Aelf realm of light
Interesting, 40 years later they come back. Used to be throwable by a tree ent. It's actually a very, very old team - not really new. Just so rarely played no-one remembered them.
@@DiscourseMinis Its also starting as exclusive to a box set as well, him, 5 wardens, 6 jet bikes, and 6 Allarus Terminators, dang near a whole army in the box.
Hmmm, I didn’t see anything about GW putting up huge collateral against a commitment to stop cycling rulesets that nerf older models while give the newest units OP stats, until the next edition, where they will be nerfed in favor of the next batch of new models with new OP stat lines:
I love how salty part of the blood bowl community has been about the Gnomes... Without seeing the rules they seem like they might be a lot of fun and I'm excited to paint foxes and a cobra chicken. I can't wait to see what the 3rd party makers do with the team as well!
As an ork player, I'm really disappointed by the artistic direction of games, with all those orks transforming into wild orks. (even the non - beastsnagga)
Wait. Highlander 2? There was Highlander and then Highlander 3. They made a Highlander 2? I must have blanked that from my memory. Wait... what was I talking about?
Models locked in big boxes really suck. This also is true for Legions Imperialis. All four kinds of battle tanks are still not available individually. So my tank companies respectively for SM & SA will be mainly composed of Kratos and Baneblade tanks. Facepalm!
Glad to see that you are still consistently correct in your analysis and opinions. You are a little too optimistic, but i can forgive it. Also, the repeated models on the gnome blood bowl team means that they can 'fix' the issue a bit down the track with a team booster set with 3 new sculpts at 70% the price of an entire team.
To be fair, previously you had to either buy a whole unit box in order to "optionally" build 1 model in that unit as a Shield Captain, or buy the resin kit and pay more for less quality. If this is 30 dollars for 1 model in actual plastic, it's already more convenient than other options if 1: literally all you need is a Shield Captain, or 2: you got carried away in batch assembly and forgot to "optionally" build one of them as your one mandatory character.
Also can GW PLEASE let their hyper-expensive games exist for more than 3 goddamned years? I have things that I built for 9th 40K that haven't actually seen play in 9th thanks to 10th 40K rolling in shortly after I came into the funds to cover the buy-in.
Or, OR, they could release every codex in one big book, so all rules are updated simultaneously, to prevent the constant power creep and invalidation of your purchasing of thousands of dollars worth of plastic suddenly becoming worthless as their rules fail to keep up with the massive marketing impetus of the new shiniest scam they shove down our throats.
I love Blood Bowl and am so aggravated by the way they just keep rereleasing the PC version as completely new games with DLC, when they should just be quality of life patches and DLCs themselves. Nobody plays the actual tabletop version near me, even though I've tried so hard to get people to play it and my local store even sells it.
I mean, if any faction, Custodes could have used a character which does something new. It is not exactly a wealth of options, so I think the comparison with space marine leaders is not great. Tbh. if it is a character, it should have been a terminator one. So at least all three main datasheets (if we assume the plastic core is meant to be the core, and tbh. it does feel like it) at least have two character options.
To say something positive: I too like the new Darkoath models. And yes, the old Marauders are awful: I own a box of them for kitbashing and their bodies are so odd and cartoony, they almost look like hunchbacks. The new Darkoath look great though! Sad about the lack of nipples though :(
Honestly don't even think Custodes should be an army/faction anyways but it's nice to see they're giving them variety, still waiting on a colossal squig remake myself.
GW's biggest scam? You mean 3 model boxes for $60?
No, single models of characters for 30$
@@totalCoolerUsername To imagine that some of their models are actually more expensive than their own weight in silver...
@@totalCoolerUsername$30? Aren't they $45 and higher now for characters?
Gee that’s cheap, that’s a shitty single plastic model price🤣🤣🤣
With -1 AP greatswords. How many reasons do you need NOT to buy The Companions??
Blood Bowl, the brutal game that is also the most optimistic and utopian GW world. All these violent factions that coexist in a cosmopolitan world without devolving into wars of extermination! It's a damn miracle.
Can't wait to get my orcs, goblins, trolls, snotlings and ogres team.
I fondly remember the days of fansites with wacky team lists before GW's lawyers killed them all.
Still have my Dark Angels BB team that has fallen back through time :-D
nah, to heck with that - give me multipart plastic sprues again (like the firstborn SM captain) - multiple sculpts in one box and it gives you bitz (magnetizable or bashable) when you're done.
For my money the Chaos Terminator Lord from 4th edition is still the undisputed champion of HQ design. Every bit from that sprue is amazing.
Damn, but I hate that mono pose crap
@@adamcline8728 for real, the captain came to mind only because he had so many bitz but honestly, chaos terminator lord takes the cake for design coolness.
the answer to the question "what is the title referring to?" got answered 14 minutes into an 18 minute vid. ya got me again
Thanks for this info. This reminds me to use the "don't show me this channel again" option.
Whenever I hear about mono pose I mourn for my Rubric Marines
Necromunda ogryns.. 2 poses $70aud
Prices to get in to 40k armies is insane win people say they are interested in the game they see how much they will need to spend on models alone they are taken back then all the rules they usually say no way. Kill team is a much more affordable option witch isn't to bad to get started. However when you want to play 40k and no one near you plays it sucks. We have a gw store in my city but it is hardly big enough just to walk through .
I like that these guys, the Halflings, and the Snotlings are all very light on the football details, so they can actually translate into Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar, meaning that, for an enterprising converter, your Cities of Sigmar and Gloomspite Gitz have more little dudes to add to them
Why is the new Custodes... so small? He looks so tiny. Squatling.
He's secretly a member of the Leagues of Votann.
They look terrible right, so much for tall and imposing
It's apparently something with the pose that makes him look small
You don't know Danny DeVito is a Custode?😜🤣🤣
Those Gnome models looks like they have been sculpted in the 90ies.
Failed by then standards the have made a comeback- what a scam
Okay, considering they are making meme models still, and in an official capacity instead of holiday gobbos, it is kinda nice. I love the cobra chicken and badger models. Not enough to bring me back, but it is nice to see them "innovate."
"And I'm genuinely surprised that Games Workshop are not hiding these rules behind a subscription-based app."
A few seconds later...
"But what do you think? Why not tell me this weekend in my Patrons-only livestream?"
Hmm. 🤔
In truth, I'm deeply concerned that GW is leaning heavily to fixed models and fixed datasheets, with no variety in how things play.
•The kits are less and less customisable with each edition. Even metal models could pose their arms!
•The points are now Power Level 2.0 with preset unit sizes. There are fewer model options and more unique models, just like you said. Combi-weapons and power weapons are the greatest example of that.
•Army subfactions are being thinned out. That's why there's this push for "paint doesn't matter" and upgrade sprues over separate kits. We already lost the force organisation chart and armoury. This is next.
•There's a constant cycle of FOMO, being fed by the lack of reliably discounted boxes. Remember the Start Collecting! range? They were replaced with the inferior Combat Patrol line, which in itself has gotten worse in its second wave. You aren't going to buy the £150 Christmas box when you could get three much better Start Collecting kits. But without them, your only other option is the barely discounted Combat Patrol box. Which looks better?
•They're also pushing to make the game more palatable for mainstream audiences. But that's not a committed relationship. Once hype dies down, they move onto the next big thing. If Warhammer changes the game just for them, they'll lose both that new audience _and_ the existing one. 40K will become Pogs, not Poggers.
•There's a bubble coming. There's rapid growth in all directions - games, streaming, merchandise, models; GW haven't prepared for this. No business does. And then the bubble pops. Best case, some execs go and things go back to roughly where it was before. Worst case, they bleed money after trying to constantly pump out models to a world with less and less money, the banks call in those business loans, and now they're in the red and bought up by Amazon as they already had interest in the IP after the streaming deal.
•Bonus - I wish they'd stop basing the bloody rules on tournament play. Patch bugs. Don't rewrite the whole game. Just look at aircraft. Are we just going to stop using them now?
I disagree on the custodes, I don't need more shield captians but releasing some of or forge world things in plastic would have been an auto win. A battleforce box with a centerpeice unit of Galatus or Achillus Dread sounds way more cool then just 6 more bikes and some terminators.
Gnomes were in WFRP 1e as of a WD article and later reprinted in the WFRP Companion 1.
3:32 The extended talk about Blood Ball Gnomes compels me to mention Guild Ball again. Plenty of cute animals playing football. No repeated sprues. Each player is a distinct character with a unique sculpt
Also a far superior ruleset.
When you said "hello there fellow Imperial Guard players", I felt that hard.
Yeah same.. The sole reason I quit Warhammer
The rules for all units in AoS are free for all armies. So the new slaves supplement will likewise have free rules.
She'd know this if she actually played the games she purports to play while putting out clickbait trash.
The flash of Highlander II on the side was precious! I lived through everything else just to be a tried and true Battletech player. Warhammer has it's issues but enough said.
I actually figured out how GW should sell rules and Codexes etc. ages ago. What they should do is sell a Codex as a nice A4 Binder with some faction specific rules in it and a copy of the current core rules on full colour punched cards with nice art etc... With me? Then they sell packs of datasheets that will fit into said folder for legacy models. Maybe give you the key characters and battle line infantry free with the Codex. Then, when they bring out a new model, you get a nice A4 glossy punched card datasheet with your model, which you put in your folder. Before you go to a games night or tournament you remove and leave at home all the data sheets for models you don't own or aren't taking. When they do a balance data slate, they sell a nice glossy card punched copy you can stich in your folder. When they bring out new rules - they sell a supplement you can add to your folder. What I'd really like to see them do is get someone who wrote chess AI engines to make them a 40k simulator program, that maybe uses hexes rather than inches for simplicity and has an AI that can play against itself with all factions and units millions of times. So THEN, they plug all the current units and factions in and get the AI to play a ton of games against itself to make some data - then use that data to balance the datasheets. That done, when they want to release a new unit they plug it into the Sim and make sure it doesn't ruin the balance before they release it. They could then even use the Sim to make a digital online version of 40k and could sell digital minis for that game and give you a free digital mini if you bought the physical model. They could also let you have a 24 hour free loan of any digital mini so you could try it to see how it played before you bought it then spent hours building and painting. I should work at GW, but sadly I don't think they'd hire me.
The original Games Workshop business model involved a Nigerian Prince and has since evolved into the current model.
You had me at "I'm a snotling player".....
Hold the phone! What have you got. Against. Chocobos?
What is the P&L (Profit and Loss) on physical codex/army books?
It could be that the profit margin for physical codex and army book releases have become so thin that even another price hike would not return the profits the shareholders demand.
I see that as a more likely scenario then GW putting out "free" rules.
GW could shift and do books with illustrations and artwork (no rules) for their various games and various factions found within each game at a price point starting around $150 per book.
This price point has a nice healthy profit margin.
These books will be a limited run in order to capitalize on that FOMO/Collection marketing that GW does prefer in their business model.
Color me surprised this has not already been done by GW.
From a business perspective this looks like a missed opportunity and money left on the table.
They've been doing this all edition, it's not a new thing. Discourse Minis is just a hack.
I still possess my original Reikland Reavers team in white lead, first purchased 25 yrs ago
What ended up killing 40k for me was at the end of 6th ed, not only did Tyranids get a horrible codex, but when 7th edition came out less then 6th months later the rules for the codex obviously were not written in regards to the new edition that they already had at the printers. In addition, the codex didn't have the new formation rules, so GW decided that making players pay $15 for a digital datasheet that contained about 1 page of actual rules for the new formations (for Tyranids only, other armies got to pony up $15 each). The money gouging was disgusting, and this coming from a Magic the Gathering player.
Hey, I play Blood Bowl. Really chose poorly this year for Adepticon and will get to play no Blood Bowl this year. Next year some different choices will be made. Already have Skaven 7s, humans, and vampires to paint up. But those Gnomes are cute and there is a temptation. May have to look at that Warped miniature team down the road.
I don't think custodes needed a shield captin. Resin infantry, tanks , dreadnoughts ?yes. Shield cpt , not so much.
Close call with that condiment king king. Terrifying enough to almost get demonitized.
i had to REALLY think about it
"hold up those are not gnomes," i say as i watch. then i check, and yeah those are warp's halfling team! they recently released a beauuuuuuuutiful gnome army as well - without particular blood bowl options but still.
Gnomes from the Dragonlance setting were steampunk type cursed inventors that spoke really fast. Their inventions mever worked so that they made lifeboats that doubled as ship anchors, that sort of thing
Gnomes really what’s next badgerfolk!? Do badgerfolk! Do Badgerfolk!! DO BADGERFOLK!!!
I wager the new free PDF downloadable codexes will be locked behind the paid Warhammer Plus portal.
Doubling up the sprue means there might be spare geese and badgers being sold online at least.
The lack of nipples is due to Nurgle rotting them off before Slaanesh could do something weird with them.
If it helps, the Soulblight 2.0 AoS Battletome was released as a physical book *one week* before the launch of AoS 3.0. The 2.0 Path to Glory campaign rules were a literal waste of printed pages as the 3.0 FAQ invalidated them immediately. The marauder models fell to "worst old model still in production" after the poor, maligned zombies got their desperately needed redesign. Between the new Darkoath and the recent Cities of Sigmar redesign it looks like GW spilled some of that sweet, sweet grimdark into the AoS world, as the Darkoath seem a dark mirror of the AoS, where both showcase the poor normal, regular humans in a world of gods, reforged Stormcast, daemons, the undead, Kragnos and so on.
10:00 I still find it so funny that if you crop out the ork stompa from the battlebox it would be a good starting point for an ork army! Eh whilst your at it chuck out the new ork boys and chuck in the old ones and you have yourself there a good start to an ork army! A few other vehicles and old boys you can grab later to round it off and its a fairly good list! But no, they chuck in the worse unit ever created in the history of warhammer into it just for shits and giggles. 800 pts and BS5+ btw
The Ork Supplement for Age of Sigmar was released as a PDF as well. Wish they‘d do that for Space Marine Supplements.
The silhouette of the shield captain looks Orky. Actually broader than the Mel.
I watched an Ad for a weekly warhammer publication where for $5 an issue you get a 'magazine' with what appeared to be a piece of a miniature.
If it's what I'm thinking of you might get like, a whole unit, with each issue (depending on the issue)
I miss the 90s, it was so much simpler… GW has become too convoluted and expensive
Want to take bets on the percentage of the Darkoath boxes that get based for The Old World, and not AoS? Because those would make great Chaos Marauders for a WoC Old World army, too...
They wouldn't make great Chaos Marauders. Firstly Marauders aren't puny and actually have a bit of warhammer character to to them and have the beginnings of becoming a Chaos Warrior. Secondly because they're gonna sell these at £32.50-£35 for 10 models so no one is gonna be able to afford them as 20 man units.
How about not taking 3 years to release the codexes so some armies are not stuck in index all that time?
Blood bowl world cup in Alicante Spain had like 3000+ players. Blood bowl has a big and very passionate community. It's only small ocompared to 40k and Sigmar.
"Gnomes are one of the more obscure creatures that exist in Warhammer Fantasy." Technically, nobody exists in Warhammer Fantasy anymore. Thanks, GW.
I'm confused. Did GW kill off the warhammer fantasy franchise or something?
@@liamfromm2544yep, then they brought it back.
I make pretty damn good money and was stoked that an LGS opened up in my town. I was super excited to FINALLY get into warhammer, but was blown away by the absolute ridiculous price point. It's not just high... its fucking INSANE. Add to that, it's an absolute MESS of product development, editing, missing text or notes. It's quite literally a box of garbage that you're supposed to hand over hundreds of dollars for, MULTIPLE times, just to play the farking game. And don't get me started on the fact that it's the dumbest damn set of rules i've ever seen in my life. Hoooollyyyy shiat.
I think it's crystal clear they 1) Don't product test, 2) don't review documents/packaging, and 3) price the product from the perspective of 'company profit need' rather than 'how can we get this in the most hands'. The whole farking product line is a complete mess from top to bottom. I'll check back in later and hope they get this absolute train wreck of a product worked out.
the rulebook supplement is 28 pages so that's probably why it is free. The code dark angels supplement is 96 pages and it is probably the lowest price item on their list.
Supplemental rules have been free for three years now.
at 7:23 you flashed the movie "the deal." i had to look it up and you now owe me 10 minutes of my life back. thank you
Gnomes as I remember from white dwarf WHFR fluff in the 80s are only a little less Populous than Halflings and were employed as jester in the Imperial Court.
Such a weird set. Whoever is making choices is really destroying the company, same goes with blizz and a lot of companies. We need people to not go too college I am guessing.
I’m still chapped after the time in 2015-2016 when GW released two knight codices (and a new box, which was the old box with a new missile launcher sprue) in less than a year of each other. Bad form.
To give hem their due, the time between the release of the big boxes and the individual kit releases does seem to have come down from 3 months+ to about a month as seen by the recent Kill Team and Deathwing Assault boxes. Granted it would have been nice of GW to let us know in advance that the wait would only be around a month but this would not fit with their tried and tested marketing (although it would go some way to combat the scalpers).
It does appear that GW are starting to listen to their consumer base (although they are still way behind the likes of Corvus Belli and Mantic) as evidenced by the fact we now get to see the painting presenters again.
Biggest scam is still dual-unit boxes. Pay for twice the bits, build half the units!
Your clickbait negativity is exhausting. It just feel bad vibes on a fun hobby. I know GW needs to be kept in check, but you take it so far. Just share your passion for the hobby, give us cool POV news and share your love of the hobby. Stop with the hatemongering please.
GW is like the Tories. Keep doing shitty things and somehow still staying in the leaderboards.
I love this example of describing gw.
Yeh that’s a problem with the opposition, if your breakfast is a little cold you don’t just buy roadkill from then on
@@bohortProblem is that in both cases, the breakfast is now almost indistinguishable from the roadkill thanks to the breakfast provider actively trying to mimic the roadkill.
They have brainwashed a lot of people out there. Its quite scary to see.
Highlander and Highlander 2, I see what you did there. I get that reference...
As old Donny Rumsfeld once said: _"There are Gnome Gnomes; there are things we Gnome we Gnome. We also Gnome there are Gnome un-Gnomes; that is to say we Gnome there are some things we do not Gnome. But there are also un-Gnome un-Gnomes -the ones we don't Gnome we don't Gnome."_
... or maybe it was Gnome Chomsky?
The Custodes are so goddamn awful. They look like something an overeager 8 yeard old would design. When they were first released, they were so obviously wrong and awfully sculpted -- surprisingly for a GW kit, their limbs didn't even fit well -- that I was sure people would scoff. And the golden paintjob looks terrible. I mean, I'm no fan of Stormcasts, but they can be made to look good, whereas Custodes are just awful, camp, kitsch crap. They can't even pull glam off well, they sure aren't Ziggy Stardust! Yet *some* people seem to like them, which I find really puzzling. So GW: 1, me: 0 I guess?
The Custode model is growing on me. His spear is a melta and the shield is a bonus (and maybe his shield is super special). He may be a bit Chonky but so was that one Black Templar guy, lol. He is very distinct from Valerian and lets us know Melta spears, or at least on this guy, will be available in the new dex. But I get why people don't like him. Plus, it gives hope of future loadouts for a new unit like Spears and Shields. I forgot what they are called in 30k.
Gnomes used to have models in the 80’s. Wild they would bring them back now
I think the Olsen Twins are both Elizabeth trying for some reason to make us believe that they are two.
Important things aside, these gnomes are so good that I'm thinking about start playing Blood Bowl just to play them. I love the fox, he's literally Swift from David the Gnome! And the Chaos guys are nice but I find AoS rules dispersed in such an absurd and confusing number of books with weird names that it keeps me away from the game even when I love the models.
Gnomes get a Mushroom-man?
Gnome mount a giant animal? Aka Bear kangaroo or Bjgfoot like master blaster.
I'm hoping that the Knight Centura for the Sisters of Silence gets a Stand Alone miniature
I'm so glad you reminded me that a new edition of AOS is coming soon. Been looking at the Flesh-eaters court for a while since the new models look really good. Be just my luck to get back into AOS with a new army and rulebook just to get hit with a new edition clean-sweep.
They have done Orks bad model wise, rules wise and lorewise. They used to be a major player with some comedy. The whole, "If all orks were ever to come together under one banner, the galaxy would fall" type stuff. Then, since the beginning of 8th edition, they have just taken the "Fall Guy", mook side. Pretty much, if any army needs to show how much of a threat it is, it beats Orks. Nids wiped out the Orks biggest empire, even though it was said to be a stalemate between two species that could grow despite each other's chemical, biological or radiological machinations. Then, GW is just like, "Orks need to lose to show the nid threat, uh, make micro nids that can eat Ork spores".
No BS, that is what happened in the story, Orks lost because, magically, there are single cell nids. At every turn, they just lose, even though it was them that fought and sealed the most ancient evil in the galaxy away. Not the Imperium/humans/derivative(65 million years late), not the Eldar(weak and sad failed experiment), not Tau(didn't exitst), not nids(not here yet), not chaos(didn't exist yet). No, it was the Orks that beat the Necrontyre and the Star Gods. Yet, these days, in the story, they are just trash, fall guys. I am still waiting for the expansion fo the storyline where Trazyn the Infinite's Krork gets released.
Gnome place like home, Did you get the update from the Gnome survice?
Gnomes shoula got a mushroom man..huge mushroom with shoulderpads!
like a D&D Myconid!!!
Beast snaggas are just snakebites
Also, am I the only one who really wants 40k Bloodbowl?
Come on, Space Marine style football helmets...
Necrons in player jerseys...
AdMech cheerleaders....
Releasing a model of the emperor of mankind on the golden throne, wearing a beer helmet?
biggest scam for me, was 4 Warp spiders, and an exarch, single poses, made in the early 90s, now in failcast, for 30 quid, and if you want a unit of 10, you need to buy 3 boxes.
Hey, erm, flayed ones are 50 euros. 5 flayed ones are 50 euros. I feel like that’s also a huge scam.
As a fellow Blood Bowl player, I can say the gnomes have raised several eyebrows, especially given the hinted starting skills. Seriously, Wrestle and Jump up on ALL linemen as a starting skill would be huge on any team, but getting Guard players as well... Finally a stunty team Dwarfs don't rush eagerly to farm spp from.
Blood Bowl is very 3rd party friendly as far as models go. Many manufacturers pride themselves on unique poses for every player on their teams. I can also say that from experience, most event organizers don’t have or flat out ignore the "only GW models" rule at official events
HERESY! There is 1 model for ork trukk/. There are 6 models for various Warbuggy variants XD
6:54 - I'm afraid that's not a commissar model. It's a Rogue Trader era Imperial Guard colonel or captain.
"hello there fellow Imperial Guard players" - I looked over at my WHFB Dwarf codex, released a couple months before GW announced the End Times.
"Oh ... *gnomes*, now." --Mr. Tweedy, in "Chicken Run"
Darkoath are the expansion of Warcry, so over the next 5-8 years expect more of the early Warcry to bigger Units , in two years I predict Cypher lords will be Hugh once they expand the Aelf realm of light
Interesting, 40 years later they come back. Used to be throwable by a tree ent. It's actually a very, very old team - not really new. Just so rarely played no-one remembered them.
This shield captain has a melta spear. So it’s going to be a new data sheet, Shield Captain with Melta-Spear
nooooooooooooo
@@DiscourseMinis Its also starting as exclusive to a box set as well, him, 5 wardens, 6 jet bikes, and 6 Allarus Terminators, dang near a whole army in the box.
In other words: Requirement for GW rule writing today is to leave your brain outside the premises when you enter.
11:43 Marauders go through an excruciating nipple removal process to please their dark god(s).
I guess it implies that all the existing battletomes will be invalidated, rather than being compatible with the new edition.
100 quid for a unit of 10 infantry, Shadow spectres has to be one of their biggest scams.
Warp Miniatures have a great 3d printable Gnome army .
Hmmm, I didn’t see anything about GW putting up huge collateral against a commitment to stop cycling rulesets that nerf older models while give the newest units OP stats, until the next edition, where they will be nerfed in favor of the next batch of new models with new OP stat lines:
I love how salty part of the blood bowl community has been about the Gnomes... Without seeing the rules they seem like they might be a lot of fun and I'm excited to paint foxes and a cobra chicken. I can't wait to see what the 3rd party makers do with the team as well!
Any plans on correcting your fake news from the last video? Not a single third party seller confirmed not being able to preorder :)
Im actually very happy theare giving us they are giving us the option to use Pyrithite spears for the Custodes ive been waiting so long
As an ork player, I'm really disappointed by the artistic direction of games, with all those orks transforming into wild orks. (even the non - beastsnagga)
Yes. I don't particularly like the faces on the newer Ork models. They don't have the charm of the older faces.
Wait. Highlander 2? There was Highlander and then Highlander 3. They made a Highlander 2? I must have blanked that from my memory. Wait... what was I talking about?
Models locked in big boxes really suck. This also is true for Legions Imperialis. All four kinds of battle tanks are still not available individually. So my tank companies respectively for SM & SA will be mainly composed of Kratos and Baneblade tanks. Facepalm!
7:00 New Resurgence in Variation??? You mean the Primarus Lieutenant problem????
On the assumption all those animals come with the gnome beastmaster, I'm buying one. Just because I want to paint them. =)
Glad to see that you are still consistently correct in your analysis and opinions. You are a little too optimistic, but i can forgive it.
Also, the repeated models on the gnome blood bowl team means that they can 'fix' the issue a bit down the track with a team booster set with 3 new sculpts at 70% the price of an entire team.
To be fair, previously you had to either buy a whole unit box in order to "optionally" build 1 model in that unit as a Shield Captain, or buy the resin kit and pay more for less quality. If this is 30 dollars for 1 model in actual plastic, it's already more convenient than other options if 1: literally all you need is a Shield Captain, or 2: you got carried away in batch assembly and forgot to "optionally" build one of them as your one mandatory character.
Okay that Ork box is back-handed at best.
Also can GW PLEASE let their hyper-expensive games exist for more than 3 goddamned years? I have things that I built for 9th 40K that haven't actually seen play in 9th thanks to 10th 40K rolling in shortly after I came into the funds to cover the buy-in.
@@Unit-3D - The hyperactive schedule makes me less interested in putting together other armies.
Or, OR, they could release every codex in one big book, so all rules are updated simultaneously, to prevent the constant power creep and invalidation of your purchasing of thousands of dollars worth of plastic suddenly becoming worthless as their rules fail to keep up with the massive marketing impetus of the new shiniest scam they shove down our throats.
Always those bucket lists with all unachievable items. Fix my Printer. As if that will ever happen... :)
I love Blood Bowl and am so aggravated by the way they just keep rereleasing the PC version as completely new games with DLC, when they should just be quality of life patches and DLCs themselves. Nobody plays the actual tabletop version near me, even though I've tried so hard to get people to play it and my local store even sells it.
GW's pricing model should be criminal
Been there and did that in the 1990's. I just had way too many armies back then.
"Tactical Rock" Chuckled.
I mean, if any faction, Custodes could have used a character which does something new. It is not exactly a wealth of options, so I think the comparison with space marine leaders is not great.
Tbh. if it is a character, it should have been a terminator one. So at least all three main datasheets (if we assume the plastic core is meant to be the core, and tbh. it does feel like it) at least have two character options.
To say something positive: I too like the new Darkoath models. And yes, the old Marauders are awful: I own a box of them for kitbashing and their bodies are so odd and cartoony, they almost look like hunchbacks. The new Darkoath look great though! Sad about the lack of nipples though :(
I thought you were going to announce gnomes being added to 40K . {sigh, one can dream}
They would make great Tau Auxiliary, if they could keep the kroot from eating them.
Honestly don't even think Custodes should be an army/faction anyways but it's nice to see they're giving them variety, still waiting on a colossal squig remake myself.