Probably the most informative, useful video on these engines I've seen. Very clear, very straightforward, concise. No getting seasick with swishing camera movements. Well done.
well done video. you clearly know what your doing, and i appreciate you not wasting time covering basic mechanical skill stuff and safety items. So many videos are so frustrating with all the BS they feel they need to cover. Thanks
Great info. The 'toon I just picked up has a '98 Force on it. I hadn't even heard of Force outboards prior to looking at the pontoon. While I realize a '98 Force is a Merc, any information on these older motors is good information. Thanks for putting this out.
Man! Had I seen this video about 6 months ago it would have saved my a trip to the boat mechanic! My 1995 Force 120 is basically the same design and has the same style throttle set up, minus it’s a twin carb and not a triple threat.
Most people dislike these motors, but I never had any major issues with the many that I have owned. The big ones like to shear the key for the flywheel, when they back fire.
Great video, I have same motor on a 16ft and this was a huge help. I recently removed carbs to clean because they were running extremely bad. Sure enough all three carbs were disgusting on inside. I was wondering if you could possibly answer something. ..After removing the float and bowl, I noticed all three carbs have black gunk under middle main jet screw, was this an old gasket or just trash?
Do you have a air/fuel adjustment video for the Chrysler? I can’t seem to get mine right. 1-1/4 turn out from seated , do I adjust all 3 at same time? Only one at a time? In neutral? Neutral high idle? In gear? Seems to run best 3/4 turns from seated, but I’m worried it’s lean? Any info would be great.
Oh and I used a timing light, i just turned key on and pointed light and rocked engine back and forth to see where it sparked at. Also everywhere I have read says to set these Chryslers at 28-30 degrees because they were originally set up for leaded fuel.
i got my engine running nice but after 15 min it started knocking and the engine turned white to brown. there is a somewhat clear hose its dark brown and what i see is the water spitting up basically there is no solid water going up and not sure if it makes up 2nd water tube as they used a rubber hose. is that the water pump cooked? and if so how bad is it to take it out i don't wanna take engine apart
Hello I got a 105 Chrysler with a msd cd box and it doesn't runs with a surface gap plugs but it does with J plugs, also is hard to adjust the mixture screws if i adjust it where it idles good is hard to cold start please help
also you didn't explain how to adjust if the butter flies what to adjust when they are not fully open, mine weren't, I pushed extended the bar, twisted the end a few turns till when I pushed it back on ball, that it fully was open when I put it back to center (idle) the mark is below so I guessing that's wrong?
Hi, I have a 1989 Evinrude 28 SPL E28ESLCEA. At low speed i'm getting a skip, but it runs ok on the top end. I wanted to get your professional advice on the problem. How can I tell if the time is set correctly. I think the timing is off also. I need your help.
Excellent. Only prob is last year when I tried to time my 85hp force 1989 I couldn't see timing marks with the timing light. Went so far as to cover with a blanket and mark the lines with white out so it stood out more but still was hard to see when it's spinning fast from starter. Any suggestions on how to see it better?
Hey Frank, Bryan here. I was having trouble with one of my 125's again and my question is, how would leaving the plugs in while static timing would affect accurately the 28 degree mark? My engine idles, but as soon as I increase the throttle it backfires and stops.
@@kylewilcox8571 honestly I repowered in 2015 with a single 300 hp G2 etec. Never regretted it of course I did have to sell my house to get the equity and buy the motor. $24k Installed. Have had many good memories since then .
I believe the Rod adjuster screw, referred to here for setting idle is how the idle timing is set. Because the rod is limited by a non-adjustable stop at WOT, changing the screw, only affects idle timing, not total timing. That is why we set total timing first. The turnbuckle on the linkage from the rod to the throttle cam is how to set idle speed, not the rod adjuster screw.
To anyone who can help me , my 125 force 1986 1258f6b has 2 carbs , On both carbs there are brass plugs that cap the passageways to the main jet , is it normal for them to have a hole in the caps ? 1/32 in size puncture . I bought this motor used and don't know if someone punctured or it comes that way. My email is Superjoe104 at Yahoo dot com
The FARCE 5 cylinder is an abomination - the crankshaft isn't strong enough for that power output and they frequently turned the flywheels into deadly weapons.
Probably the most informative, useful video on these engines I've seen. Very clear, very straightforward, concise. No getting seasick with swishing camera movements. Well done.
10 years have went by and this is still being used.
It honestly couldn’t be more relevant. The best one out there in my opinion.
I’m back to square 1 with my boat so I’m using it as we speak 😂
well done video. you clearly know what your doing, and i appreciate you not wasting time covering basic mechanical skill stuff and safety items. So many videos are so frustrating with all the BS they feel they need to cover. Thanks
You helped me immensely on my Chrysler 70 hp on iboats, thanks for doing this video.
Great info. The 'toon I just picked up has a '98 Force on it. I hadn't even heard of Force outboards prior to looking at the pontoon. While I realize a '98 Force is a Merc, any information on these older motors is good information. Thanks for putting this out.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Excellent tutorial here....thank you very much...
Man! Had I seen this video about 6 months ago it would have saved my a trip to the boat mechanic! My 1995 Force 120 is basically the same design and has the same style throttle set up, minus it’s a twin carb and not a triple threat.
Most people dislike these motors, but I never had any major issues with the many that I have owned. The big ones like to shear the key for the flywheel, when they back fire.
Great video, I have same motor on a 16ft and this was a huge help. I recently removed carbs to clean because they were running extremely bad. Sure enough all three carbs were disgusting on inside. I was wondering if you could possibly answer something. ..After removing the float and bowl, I noticed all three carbs have black gunk under middle main jet screw, was this an old gasket or just trash?
Excellent info. How often do the carbs need to be adjusted?
This was extremely helpful thanks a lot man!
Though video is from 2013... Very useful info.... Thanks...!!
Do you have a air/fuel adjustment video for the Chrysler? I can’t seem to get mine right. 1-1/4 turn out from seated , do I adjust all 3 at same time? Only one at a time? In neutral? Neutral high idle? In gear?
Seems to run best 3/4 turns from seated, but I’m worried it’s lean?
Any info would be great.
Oh and I used a timing light, i just turned key on and pointed light and rocked engine back and forth to see where it sparked at. Also everywhere I have read says to set these Chryslers at 28-30 degrees because they were originally set up for leaded fuel.
i got my engine running nice but after 15 min it started knocking and the engine turned white to brown. there is a somewhat clear hose its dark brown and what i see is the water spitting up basically there is no solid water going up and not sure if it makes up 2nd water tube as they used a rubber hose. is that the water pump cooked? and if so how bad is it to take it out i don't wanna take engine apart
interesting. thanks. i wouldve never thot that touching the belt after would produce a spark?
How do I find 28 degree on my flywheel? I divided the number of teeth by 360 like you said in your video and came up with .26944
What kind of spark plugs are you running out of curiosity
Hello
I got a 105 Chrysler with a msd cd box and it doesn't runs with a surface gap plugs but it does with J plugs, also is hard to adjust the mixture screws if i adjust it where it idles good is hard to cold start please help
also you didn't explain how to adjust if the butter flies what to adjust when they are not fully open, mine weren't, I pushed extended the bar, twisted the end a few turns till when I pushed it back on ball, that it fully was open when I put it back to center (idle) the mark is below so I guessing that's wrong?
on a 2 carb engine have you ever had the problem where they wont open?
Hi,
I have a 1989 Evinrude 28 SPL E28ESLCEA. At low speed i'm getting a skip, but it runs ok on the top end. I wanted to get your professional advice on the problem. How can I tell if the time is set correctly. I think the timing is off also. I need your help.
Thanks this helped me alot.
i dont have a scrbbed mark does that matter? I have a 115 chrger deluxe and its just a dual carb
i have a 75 horse chrysler i have spark but i having problem getting it to run
The nine finger club.......!!! R.I.P.....Frank
@MrCiammurro he didn't die
On the Force, what is the adapter called to adjust the timing. The one on mine busted.
Top plug is #1 ??
I thot it started at the bottom. 1,2,3 going up for firing order, Can you confirm this please? Thanks. (1978 Chrysler 75hp)
Excellent. Only prob is last year when I tried to time my 85hp force 1989 I couldn't see timing marks with the timing light. Went so far as to cover with a blanket and mark the lines with white out so it stood out more but still was hard to see when it's spinning fast from starter. Any suggestions on how to see it better?
I recommend a timing light
Can you use a timing light .? Is that points? C.d.I. battery c.d.I.? Belt driven. ? Crazy
Hey Frank, Bryan here. I was having trouble with one of my 125's again and my question is, how would leaving the plugs in while static timing would affect accurately the 28 degree mark? My engine idles, but as soon as I increase the throttle it backfires and stops.
Did you ever find out why? Because I'm having the same issue!
@@kylewilcox8571 honestly I repowered in 2015 with a single 300 hp G2 etec. Never regretted it of course I did have to sell my house to get the equity and buy the motor. $24k Installed. Have had many good memories since then .
Good video, I have a 1973 chrysler 150hp. Are these engined the same as the one I have?
This would mean any idle timing adjustment you make would affect the full throttle timing wouldn't it?
I believe the Rod adjuster screw, referred to here for setting idle is how the idle timing is set. Because the rod is limited by a non-adjustable stop at WOT, changing the screw, only affects idle timing, not total timing. That is why we set total timing first. The turnbuckle on the linkage from the rod to the throttle cam is how to set idle speed, not the rod adjuster screw.
having several questions like loose connection for it too for the distrubtor can you email me?? this keeps deleting my posts
hi how r u. I just want to know if a four cly dist will work on a three cly motor
Thanks so much for the video. Hate to say it though, you sound like Dr Falsy. :P
To anyone who can help me , my 125 force 1986 1258f6b has 2 carbs , On both carbs there are brass plugs that cap the passageways to the main jet , is it normal for them to have a hole in the caps ? 1/32 in size puncture . I bought this motor used and don't know if someone punctured or it comes that way. My email is Superjoe104 at Yahoo dot com
The FARCE 5 cylinder is an abomination - the crankshaft isn't strong enough for that power output and they frequently turned the flywheels into deadly weapons.