I've been pulling my hair for weeks with my '86 85hp 3 carb! No where does anyone say how or where or why to adjust the length of that rod. I have a complete understanding now of what everything is doing, I can't thank you enough. I've literally spent I'm embarrassed to say 12+ hours on the water, and double that off the water trying to adjust air mix, link and sync. I was ready to pay someone but this time of year it's impossible everyone is booked! and after watching your video it took me 30 min ! oh I have power now, better fuel efficiency, I'm just completely floored, and thankful. Wonderful pace on the video, clear explanation, hat's off to you! (I've now adjusted two others and turned them on two your video) thanks SOO much
Wow.. have to agree with so many people. Thanks a million for making this video. VERY helpful.. and fun to just watch. Good comments, you naturally just "say" the things we needed to hear without asking. Ive been an ASE tech since 92, just getting my sea-legs though. Heavy equipment, and new car dealer for decades.. but only recently got into the marine area just for a hobby.. and its alot of fun. Around me this town is all Merc guys.. and yamaha ppl.. everyone is afraid and gloom and doom about "force".. Im with you.. simple. reliable fun. I got two 1989 85HP outboards with my backyard boat find(spectrum 1707?).. tore one down for the parts-shelf, the other one is in awesome shape with all the decals, timing marks, clean as a whistle, but had a list a mile long what was not set right on this thing. So thanks to-you.. I got all the bugs out and purrs like a kitten and roars like a lion! haha.. like its suppose to. At least for an 85.. Cheers and thanks again..
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
Questions for ya, I have a 78’ 75hp 3 carb Chrysler outboard I’m trying to set the linkages. How do I know where the tower is supposed to be set to, so I can set the roller cam to the screw? How do I set the shifter and throttle cables? Are they to be loose on the ball? Or under tension? Appreciate any help with this, very frustrating not knowing where to start the setup. Carbs link & sync are good, it’s just the other stuff mentioned. Thanks!!
Would you mind demonstrating how to properly adjust the throttle cable? I have done all the steps in this video correctly but when I move my throttle it only moves the mechanism halfway. I was thinking maybe my throttle cable needs tightened to be able to open the butterflies all the way? My bar (where the black piece rotates to touch the block is very stiff and must be forced to touch the block. Any ideas? Thanks so much!
Great video thanks so much. Frank A has a good static timing tutorial that would be great to accommodate this video. This video will help me getting it to run even better. On my boat right now with my Chrysler as I type this. :)
That's cool. I think I need to make a new set of Chrysler outboard videos, replacing the existing ones. These were done when the length of videos was limited. The camera I had was so so and the audio was awful. Script them this time and do in parts. Cover static timing, strobe timing, linkage and carb adjustment, cooling, and trouble shooting. Doing something twice usually ends up with a better result.
Will the electronics from a 3 cylinder 3 carb work on the 4 cylinder 2 carb I have a mag 1 and mag 2 can you add a 4th spark plug wire to the distributor and make it work?
Great video, I have a question on the throttle cam. There is almost 60% of dead space between the bottom mark to where the throttle stars to catch but the firing advances right away. I ended up with idle and basically open throttle almost impossible to find midrange. I must be missing something.
Hello again I got a problem with the air mixture screw on a 105 ,the bottom carburetor screw works like it should but the top one screw got very little effect on the motor when adjusted in but when adjusted all the way out motor still running Where can I start looking for
Hello again, I got a 105 with the msd ignition system and I got a problem get it to idle after warm up my bottom carburetor are set at 3/4 turn out and the top one at 1 full turn out and idles really good there but after cooling off for a few minutes is hard to get it to start but if I turn the idle screw out start but smoke really bad like I can smell the row gas if you can help I thank a lot
That should be the 3 cyl... uses the same one as the 4 above... You can still get them through Mercury parts. But I got mine off ebay usually. I don't have the PN at hand but some googleling should reveal the PN.
I've got the same engine and noticed I have some play in my tower linkage. Just below the plastic mount there is a slight pivot between the stopper/idle screw and the rod. is this normal? It seems odd.
Great videos!, i recently purchased a boat with a 115hp chrysler. i adjusted the throttle linkages as you show on this video, i adjusted the timing useing your timing videos, however i think my carbs need to be cleaned. i am wondering how you set the float level in the carbs, and is there anything i should be looking out for? thanks for the great videos. much appreciated!
Clean the carbs out, check the condition of the float seats. There are 2 types. Solid seat with rubber tipped needle and rubber seat with solid tipped needle. Initial idle screw mixture setting is one turn out minimum. Adjust the floats so they are level with the carb housing.
I just picked up a force 55 how. looks beautiful, waiting for a new coil to come in so I can fire het up. question or maybe a tutorial video on how to connect throttle and shift cables to the ball joint mounts on the motor once you have them in the brackets. st the end of your video you said you weren't going to fight to connect the throttle linkage back up. can you help explain or make video to help me please.
I appreciate the chrysler videos. Thank you for that. My chrysler is having problems going into gear. I changed and adjusted the cables as well as replaced the lower unit. It now goes into forward but not reverse. Any ideas? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
You might have an issue with the throttle cable attachment point. There's a little part that with a inner spring that gets stuck. Its attached to the end of the throttle cable
@@brackeld there are beads that go between your dog clutch pin and the spring it gives the that extra half inch to get in to gear you might of forgot to put them back in
I'm embarrassed to say that I fired up my Chrysler 45 in full throttle reverse. I had no idea what I was doing at the time, needless to say. The motor tilts on 1 bolt at the mount. The prop naturally pulled the motor out of the water (still attached at the mount) and just skipped there for about 1sec before I shut off the ignition. When the motor pivoted on the mounting bolt, it ripped the shift linkage off of it's ball connection point. Now the problem: The motor won't shift into drive. It will shift into reverse, and neutral seems fine. Anybody have any tips on what I should look for?
Great Video! Although I have a question.. I have a force 120 with the same twin carb / linkage you're working on. My problem is my idle is too high (1700 rpm). I can manually push the cam back slightly until the tower shaft rests against the idle screw and it brings it back down to 900-1000rpm. I don't think it is the idle screw because the the tower shaft does not rest against the idle screw (until push the cam back manually). Do you think I need to adjust the link to be longer so that when I shift back to neutral it pushes the tower shaft back further?
Watch the cable adjustment video and see if you can get a clue to your problem from that. It sounding like your cable is not pulling the throttle shut.
My tower in my 75 is very stiff - I hear they are supposed to be very easy to turn. I need to figure out what I need to lube I guess. I'm not sure if it grease in the distributor or something else that is seized.
@@Tolli.Forker take the link off between the tower shaft and distributor. That way you could feel which one is tight. You can't take the distributor out of it's bracket it rotates in Fairly easily just don't lose the tiny little key in the shaft
I've been having problems with my Mercury 120 HP engine jet boat. I watched this video and think the throttle cam needs adjusting. The cam is not touching the roller at all, which I think is my problem. Am I correct in this assessment? The cam doesn't touch the roller until I have the boat throttle fully engaged.
If you have a Force/Chrysler engine it may have the same linkage. If it is really a Mercury engine don't go by these instructions. Ok having said that and assuming it is a Force /Chrysler. If the roller is so far off its not touching till the throttle is near WOT you may have other issues. Check for bent parts and incorrect assembly. Send me a pic or video and maybe I can help.
Anybody have issue with changing there control cables (shift / throttle) I bought two new cables to replace the old worn out ones and I am having a issue getting it all synced up like before....any thoughts???
I'm having problem's with my force 125 HP its under power on full throttle checked spark, compression, carbs, fuel filter, and no changes in performance. I also sometimes after tweaking with it have some type of back fire out of distributor. Please help
Thank you for your response the linkage I believe its good they open and close together but I would have to check the timing maybe also replace spark plugs I have notice that it runs loud noisy shaky I've also noticed black oil or dried up smoke but more like oil on the side of engine block between capacitor and distributor in a day or two I will make a video and send you a link on my 125 HP force I do not have that black box next to the distributor I think its a power pack I'm not sure and the wiring on the distributor is different I have two wires that I have notice connected on one screw I understand you would need to see how its set up let me end by telling you that I have never worked on a boat engine but I am good with engines this engine was not running at all I went from battery to choke solenoid to starter solenoid to starter to carbs to everything else I greatly appreciate your help and I'm very great full thank you and god bless you
Alpatriod no. The idle screw is on the tower shaft. Two stroke outboards use the advance more to set the idle speed. The throttle is a combination of advance and carb opening.
Please help 🙏 I got a 105 Chrysler that I replaced carburetors the original one is a wb_24b. F50001-1 and the new ones got different numbers but they look identical to the old ones only different is the main jets are 0.086 and the original carburetors jets are 0.080 motor idle really good but it won't run past 4100rpm at wot any chance that the new carburetors causes this or is something else going on please help
The reason I replaced the old ones is because the idle tube ventury is broken to far in the main jet so it makes it impossible to adjust the mixture screws because even if I unscrew it all out still runs
@@MostlyInteresting this is what I done so far. Replaced carburetors, reed's for the ones that are plastic or fiber glass, fuel pump, clean recirculation system, plugs, adjust timing and synchronization on carburetors new coil, forgot to mention I got the msd street fire on it
@@sergiocontreras8930 move the Jets from the old carburetor to the new carburetors so the new ones will be calibrated the way the old ones were. Also it would be better to move this conversation over to facebook. The Chrysler outboards page
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I've been pulling my hair for weeks with my '86 85hp 3 carb! No where does anyone say how or where or why to adjust the length of that rod. I have a complete understanding now of what everything is doing, I can't thank you enough. I've literally spent I'm embarrassed to say 12+ hours on the water, and double that off the water trying to adjust air mix, link and sync. I was ready to pay someone but this time of year it's impossible everyone is booked! and after watching your video it took me 30 min ! oh I have power now, better fuel efficiency, I'm just completely floored, and thankful. Wonderful pace on the video, clear explanation, hat's off to you! (I've now adjusted two others and turned them on two your video) thanks SOO much
There is really no one around that knows how and is willing to touch these.
Wow.. have to agree with so many people. Thanks a million for making this video. VERY helpful.. and fun to just watch. Good comments, you naturally just "say" the things we needed to hear without asking. Ive been an ASE tech since 92, just getting my sea-legs though. Heavy equipment, and new car dealer for decades.. but only recently got into the marine area just for a hobby.. and its alot of fun. Around me this town is all Merc guys.. and yamaha ppl.. everyone is afraid and gloom and doom about "force".. Im with you.. simple. reliable fun. I got two 1989 85HP outboards with my backyard boat find(spectrum 1707?).. tore one down for the parts-shelf, the other one is in awesome shape with all the decals, timing marks, clean as a whistle, but had a list a mile long what was not set right on this thing. So thanks to-you.. I got all the bugs out and purrs like a kitten and roars like a lion! haha.. like its suppose to. At least for an 85..
Cheers and thanks again..
You’re a wonderful teacher! Patient and wonderful pace! Thank you so much for posting!
got so mush more power I burned my water pump up, thanks for the video it was very helpful. if you have any more they are welcomed
Great video i really appreciate you doing this, i have a 1979 20Hp Chrysler outboard motor im going over now.
Thanks! Great video. This is exactly what I needed for my 85 hp Chrysler. Mine has the three carbs.
Glad to be of service. :)
Thank you for the videos on these engines. They have been extremely helpful!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad to be of service.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
I hope you don’t mind another question. I have adjusted the linkage but when I advance the throttle, I am only able to get a little more than idle. It seems the cam never engages the screw to open up the carbs. Any ideas? It’s an 85hp with the triple carb setup.
Questions for ya, I have a 78’ 75hp 3 carb Chrysler outboard I’m trying to set the linkages.
How do I know where the tower is supposed to be set to, so I can set the roller cam to the screw?
How do I set the shifter and throttle cables? Are they to be loose on the ball? Or under tension?
Appreciate any help with this, very frustrating not knowing where to start the setup.
Carbs link & sync are good, it’s just the other stuff mentioned. Thanks!!
Do you have a video on how to adjust throttle linkages also? (the last ones you hooked up at end of video that keep the throttle shut) thanks.
Would you mind demonstrating how to properly adjust the throttle cable? I have done all the steps in this video correctly but when I move my throttle it only moves the mechanism halfway. I was thinking maybe my throttle cable needs tightened to be able to open the butterflies all the way? My bar (where the black piece rotates to touch the block is very stiff and must be forced to touch the block. Any ideas? Thanks so much!
Hi. Your video is very helpful. Now, I have a question. How do you properly adjust the gear linkage? Thanks in advance.
thank you very helpful
Where did you find parts for your engine
Great video thanks so much. Frank A has a good static timing tutorial that would be great to accommodate this video. This video will help me getting it to run even better. On my boat right now with my Chrysler as I type this. :)
That's cool. I think I need to make a new set of Chrysler outboard videos, replacing the existing ones. These were done when the length of videos was limited. The camera I had was so so and the audio was awful. Script them this time and do in parts. Cover static timing, strobe timing, linkage and carb adjustment, cooling, and trouble shooting. Doing something twice usually ends up with a better result.
You did great don't worry about it. Glad I found your videos.
Excellent info. Thank you. How often should the carbs be adjusted?
Will the electronics from a 3 cylinder 3 carb work on the 4 cylinder 2 carb I have a mag 1 and mag 2 can you add a 4th spark plug wire to the distributor and make it work?
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Great video, I have a question on the throttle cam. There is almost 60% of dead space between the bottom mark to where the throttle stars to catch but the firing advances right away. I ended up with idle and basically open throttle almost impossible to find midrange. I must be missing something.
That was brilliant
Hello again
I got a problem with the air mixture screw on a 105 ,the bottom carburetor screw works like it should but the top one screw got very little effect on the motor when adjusted in but when adjusted all the way out motor still running
Where can I start looking for
Hey! My 105 with a msd ignition won't rev past 4100rpm after timing adjust. What i did wrong
Gasoline for thetipeofgas for a 94 force 90
Hello again, I got a 105 with the msd ignition system and I got a problem get it to idle after warm up my bottom carburetor are set at 3/4 turn out and the top one at 1 full turn out and idles really good there but after cooling off for a few minutes is hard to get it to start but if I turn the idle screw out start but smoke really bad like I can smell the row gas if you can help I thank a lot
Hello I have a Chrysler 75hp 757ha and am having a hard time finding the right water pump I was wondering if u knew the right one to get
That should be the 3 cyl... uses the same one as the 4 above... You can still get them through Mercury parts. But I got mine off ebay usually. I don't have the PN at hand but some googleling should reveal the PN.
@@MostlyInteresting thanks didn’t know if u would respond
I've got the same engine and noticed I have some play in my tower linkage. Just below the plastic mount there is a slight pivot between the stopper/idle screw and the rod. is this normal? It seems odd.
Great videos!, i recently purchased a boat with a 115hp chrysler. i adjusted the throttle linkages as you show on this video, i adjusted the timing useing your timing videos, however i think my carbs need to be cleaned. i am wondering how you set the float level in the carbs, and is there anything i should be looking out for? thanks for the great videos. much appreciated!
+nissanmikey You really need to pick up a manual. To much detail to go into here.
Clean the carbs out, check the condition of the float seats. There are 2 types. Solid seat with rubber tipped needle and rubber seat with solid tipped needle. Initial idle screw mixture setting is one turn out minimum. Adjust the floats so they are level with the carb housing.
I just picked up a force 55 how. looks beautiful, waiting for a new coil to come in so I can fire het up.
question or maybe a tutorial video on how to connect throttle and shift cables to the ball joint mounts on the motor once you have them in the brackets. st the end of your video you said you weren't going to fight to connect the throttle linkage back up. can you help explain or make video to help me please.
I just recently acquired a Chrysler 45, can you share with me where you shopped for parts for your Force 55?
I appreciate the chrysler videos. Thank you for that. My chrysler is having problems going into gear. I changed and adjusted the cables as well as replaced the lower unit. It now goes into forward but not reverse. Any ideas? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
You might have an issue with the throttle cable attachment point. There's a little part that with a inner spring that gets stuck. Its attached to the end of the throttle cable
5 years too late
@@vedranstupar1506 never too late! Still havent found the issue. If I replaced the cables, does the stuck spring attachment still apply?
@@brackeld there are beads that go between your dog clutch pin and the spring it gives the that extra half inch to get in to gear you might of forgot to put them back in
I'm embarrassed to say that I fired up my Chrysler 45 in full throttle reverse. I had no idea what I was doing at the time, needless to say. The motor tilts on 1 bolt at the mount. The prop naturally pulled the motor out of the water (still attached at the mount) and just skipped there for about 1sec before I shut off the ignition. When the motor pivoted on the mounting bolt, it ripped the shift linkage off of it's ball connection point. Now the problem: The motor won't shift into drive. It will shift into reverse, and neutral seems fine. Anybody have any tips on what I should look for?
Thank you so much!!
Great Video! Although I have a question.. I have a force 120 with the same twin carb / linkage you're working on. My problem is my idle is too high (1700 rpm). I can manually push the cam back slightly until the tower shaft rests against the idle screw and it brings it back down to 900-1000rpm. I don't think it is the idle screw because the the tower shaft does not rest against the idle screw (until push the cam back manually). Do you think I need to adjust the link to be longer so that when I shift back to neutral it pushes the tower shaft back further?
Watch the cable adjustment video and see if you can get a clue to your problem from that. It sounding like your cable is not pulling the throttle shut.
I have a 85 hp Chrysler and the tower shaft doesn't turn, what do I need to do to fix that
My tower in my 75 is very stiff - I hear they are supposed to be very easy to turn. I need to figure out what I need to lube I guess. I'm not sure if it grease in the distributor or something else that is seized.
@@Tolli.Forker take the link off between the tower shaft and distributor. That way you could feel which one is tight. You can't take the distributor out of it's bracket it rotates in Fairly easily just don't lose the tiny little key in the shaft
I've been having problems with my Mercury 120 HP engine jet boat. I watched this video and think the throttle cam needs adjusting. The cam is not touching the roller at all, which I think is my problem. Am I correct in this assessment? The cam doesn't touch the roller until I have the boat throttle fully engaged.
If you have a Force/Chrysler engine it may have the same linkage. If it is really a Mercury engine don't go by these instructions. Ok having said that and assuming it is a Force /Chrysler. If the roller is so far off its not touching till the throttle is near WOT you may have other issues. Check for bent parts and incorrect assembly. Send me a pic or video and maybe I can help.
and also can you adjust the throttle stop?
Sure its the screw on the tower shaft that pushes on the block. I point it out as I talk.
Mine is also inboard jet but the guts are still the same in the engine.
Go through the procedure and then see if you can get the cam pick up in the right place.
Anybody have issue with changing there control cables (shift / throttle) I bought two new cables to replace the old worn out ones and I am having a issue getting it all synced up like before....any thoughts???
did u bypass the neutral safety switch?
Oh no... I would never do that. I know me, and it will prevent embarrassment and potential injury.
I'm having problem's with my force 125 HP its under power on full throttle checked spark, compression, carbs, fuel filter, and no changes in performance. I also sometimes after tweaking with it have some type of back fire out of distributor. Please help
jay dee Have you synced the linkage and set the timing? The timing is in another video. Not enough info to be of help really.
Thank you for your response the linkage I believe its good they open and close together but I would have to check the timing maybe also replace spark plugs I have notice that it runs loud noisy shaky I've also noticed black oil or dried up smoke but more like oil on the side of engine block between capacitor and distributor in a day or two I will make a video and send you a link on my 125 HP force I do not have that black box next to the distributor I think its a power pack I'm not sure and the wiring on the distributor is different I have two wires that I have notice connected on one screw I understand you would need to see how its set up let me end by telling you that I have never worked on a boat engine but I am good with engines this engine was not running at all I went from battery to choke solenoid to starter solenoid to starter to carbs to everything else I greatly appreciate your help and I'm very great full thank you and god bless you
so there is not idle screws to adjust on these carbs?
Alpatriod no. The idle screw is on the tower shaft. Two stroke outboards use the advance more to set the idle speed. The throttle is a combination of advance and carb opening.
Like all carburetors they each have and idle mixture screw
Please help 🙏
I got a 105 Chrysler that I replaced carburetors the original one is a wb_24b. F50001-1 and the new ones got different numbers but they look identical to the old ones only different is the main jets are 0.086 and the original carburetors jets are 0.080 motor idle really good but it won't run past 4100rpm at wot any chance that the new carburetors causes this or is something else going on please help
There is never any reason to swap carbs out. Clean the hell out of the old ones and put them back. Then look for other issues.
The reason I replaced the old ones is because the idle tube ventury is broken to far in the main jet so it makes it impossible to adjust the mixture screws because even if I unscrew it all out still runs
@@MostlyInteresting who ever worked on it before mess up the tube I guess they were trying to remove the main nozzle
@@MostlyInteresting this is what I done so far. Replaced carburetors, reed's for the ones that are plastic or fiber glass, fuel pump, clean recirculation system, plugs, adjust timing and synchronization on carburetors new coil, forgot to mention I got the msd street fire on it
@@sergiocontreras8930 move the Jets from the old carburetor to the new carburetors so the new ones will be calibrated the way the old ones were. Also it would be better to move this conversation over to facebook. The Chrysler outboards page
ever have a problem where the engine will idle but not accelerate when you move the throttle in the boat???
That is usually the fuel pump diafram is stiff and needs replacing.
Did you solve this?
@@vedranstupar1506 I honestly dont remember, it was on an old boat my granddad had