Then I just check they are collecting evidence to make sure it's valid enough for them to sue. Currently, they aren't suing. Get your facts straight first, honestly anything in Chinese Gacha isn't original so for me this is a nothing burger ending.
Plagiarism is a lot harder to prove than one might think. Because of the nature of art, things have to be pretty 1:1 in order to for a successful lawsuit, and Hoyo has changed enough from these that likely nothing will get done. A lot of these are similar enough that the inspiration is undeniable but different enough that it's probably legal, if a bit unethical or creatively bankrupt.
Pretty sure nothing will come out of this 'legal action'. The similarities are there, but even then it's too broad of similarities that you can argue it's been used by other games and media before. I mean all of these are pretty much cinematic shots that can be used by anyone. Also there needs to be a statute for the gap between when the two were released. If the gaps are about a month apart, then it's pretty unlikely for hoyo to copy anything. They would've been in production mode unless they had insider info. Also netease of all companies are suing for copyright? The company known best for its plagiarism is practically writing it's own downfall itself.
even if hoyo copied these scenes it didn't change the fact that kuro borrowed a huge part of wuwa's content from other games. sometimes it's 100% copies. for example, look at carlottas idle animation it's exact copy of avanturin's fron hsr. and it absolutely obvious because of that small explosion at the end. I don't know why kuro doing this.. unless they are a huge fans of hoyo games.. but in this case they should say about it.. I like wuwa, it's beautiful, designers doing a great job.. and I want to see kuro's original ideas.. not a copy of a copy
first of all, I'm not a bro... secondly, you're so ready to accuse hoyo, but I haven't seen any of your videos where you accuse kuro.. it's pretty clear what it's all about. ok, I can give you many more examples besides this leak... i hope they will change this animation before release. if not, you should definitely make a video about it)
@@Mour304see Alpha cw and luna abyss and there release date and banner art..then check hoyo father and Acheron..both of hoyo character copy from pgr there play style and banner art as well
@@PikachuPolice i got confused in pgr characters a little bit. i found Lucia. yes, she is very close to Acheron. especially one of her skins, but i didn't find when this skin was released. just found some videos here dated summer. and i found Luna, even crimson one, she and Arlecchino are totally different, banner's composition (the one with the wing) is pretty close.. but Arlecchino's card is just a mirror copy of Alhaitham's but if you compare Lucia and Acheron then you should also compare, for example, Lingyang and Ka Ming (including idle animation) and Chixia and Yoimiya, they even share the same personality.. the way lolis walk and run copied from genshin. butterflies in wuwa = fairies in genshin and so on.. why no one makes videos about it? but then hoyo copied 3 frames it's a crime of the century..
Its not even just 1 part, there so many parts wow... Never knew. Imagen actually designing something youreself or transforming it to another form, or was that to expensive for hoyo? lolz
Imagine if the person that worked on this worked for both NetEase and HoYo effectively plagiarizing themselves.. I wonder how that would play out in court. Court would probably still hold hoyo accountable for a $$$ amount & then a decision would be made in-house to can the person. Going to play devil's advocate on the Sparkle trailer however. I believe it to just be HoYoverse providing an homage to the original content. They tend to do this, hell if you look at the entirety of the previous era HI3 stuff you can pretty much correlate it to Evangelion(which they ended up officially collabing with down the line.)
its not like these concepts are entirely new and unique to just one company tho... didn't they get inspirations for it from movies or something? granted hoyo should've changed things around to prevent these kinds of scenario tho... smh
Then again, it could be unpublished concepts sitting around for as long as it did, then someone changed job and brought along those ideas to the new company, or maybe corporate espionage. So does it mean whoever gets the concept onto public lenses first wins the ownership? Anyway, plagiarism is so prevalent in China with so many stories that I can't tell what is orignal anymore. Then again, considering the highly pathetic amount of contents released with recent filler patches in HSR together with this call out, I'm getting the impression that these guys have started to take gamers for granted. Minimal effort, maximum fast revenue strategy. I hope they aren't believing that even if they release only flashy characters with no new contents, they'll still be able to get away with very decent revenue per patch.
with the amount of evidence of plagiarizm is there a chance that hoyo ceo's know who works at the other game company and there mightve been chances where both parties have collaborated
This, with all the other stuff that hsr team copied that started to come to light on twitter, it turns out it's hoyo that is creatively bankrupt not the TOF devs with that white wolf and stuff 😂(don't get me wrong TOF is still trash tho)
How did you manage to not watch the video OR see the pinned comment that literally states that a lawsuit is going to proceed in light of blatant art therft also who just says 'yeah can I take your whole idea and copy it 1:1 pls?' Hoyoshills never fail to make me laugh LMAOOOOO
@@sukaikitsune That's fair, wouldn't you say your presumption of the video and not reading pinned comments and blindly commenting be jumping to conclusions? ehehe
MASSIVE UPDATE: Legal action is being taken against HoYo x.com/legend0777/status/1864276990142140651?s=46&t=ZwefILP1YphMr1xmgTOixg
there was an update in the replies. the post says evidence has been collected but correction says evidence is currently being collected
Then I just check they are collecting evidence to make sure it's valid enough for them to sue. Currently, they aren't suing. Get your facts straight first, honestly anything in Chinese Gacha isn't original so for me this is a nothing burger ending.
Plagiarism is a lot harder to prove than one might think. Because of the nature of art, things have to be pretty 1:1 in order to for a successful lawsuit, and Hoyo has changed enough from these that likely nothing will get done. A lot of these are similar enough that the inspiration is undeniable but different enough that it's probably legal, if a bit unethical or creatively bankrupt.
"Why you suing me bro? My company is named Furger King, not Burger King." Type of argument. Law is a joke.
That's not really it but okay.
Pretty sure nothing will come out of this 'legal action'. The similarities are there, but even then it's too broad of similarities that you can argue it's been used by other games and media before. I mean all of these are pretty much cinematic shots that can be used by anyone. Also there needs to be a statute for the gap between when the two were released. If the gaps are about a month apart, then it's pretty unlikely for hoyo to copy anything. They would've been in production mode unless they had insider info. Also netease of all companies are suing for copyright? The company known best for its plagiarism is practically writing it's own downfall itself.
brother check pinned
W8, there are still people who actually think that Hoyo makes original stuff?
95% of Hoyo products is someone elses idea.
we been knowin but this was the big one that really opened a lot of eyes (FINALLY)
even if hoyo copied these scenes it didn't change the fact that kuro borrowed a huge part of wuwa's content from other games. sometimes it's 100% copies. for example, look at carlottas idle animation it's exact copy of avanturin's fron hsr. and it absolutely obvious because of that small explosion at the end. I don't know why kuro doing this.. unless they are a huge fans of hoyo games.. but in this case they should say about it.. I like wuwa, it's beautiful, designers doing a great job.. and I want to see kuro's original ideas.. not a copy of a copy
Bro using whataboutisms and somehow flips this onto kuro by mentioning leaks about animations
...wha?
first of all, I'm not a bro... secondly, you're so ready to accuse hoyo, but I haven't seen any of your videos where you accuse kuro.. it's pretty clear what it's all about. ok, I can give you many more examples besides this leak... i hope they will change this animation before release. if not, you should definitely make a video about it)
@@Mour304see Alpha cw and luna abyss and there release date and banner art..then check hoyo father and Acheron..both of hoyo character copy from pgr there play style and banner art as well
@@PikachuPolice i got confused in pgr characters a little bit. i found Lucia. yes, she is very close to Acheron. especially one of her skins, but i didn't find when this skin was released. just found some videos here dated summer. and i found Luna, even crimson one, she and Arlecchino are totally different, banner's composition (the one with the wing) is pretty close.. but Arlecchino's card is just a mirror copy of Alhaitham's
but if you compare Lucia and Acheron then you should also compare, for example, Lingyang and Ka Ming (including idle animation) and Chixia and Yoimiya, they even share the same personality.. the way lolis walk and run copied from genshin. butterflies in wuwa = fairies in genshin and so on..
why no one makes videos about it? but then hoyo copied 3 frames it's a crime of the century..
@@PikachuPolice omg. and look at ToF Shiro. never interested in this game.just saw her now accidentally..
Its not even just 1 part, there so many parts wow...
Never knew.
Imagen actually designing something youreself or transforming it to another form, or was that to expensive for hoyo? lolz
Imagine if the person that worked on this worked for both NetEase and HoYo effectively plagiarizing themselves.. I wonder how that would play out in court. Court would probably still hold hoyo accountable for a $$$ amount & then a decision would be made in-house to can the person.
Going to play devil's advocate on the Sparkle trailer however. I believe it to just be HoYoverse providing an homage to the original content. They tend to do this, hell if you look at the entirety of the previous era HI3 stuff you can pretty much correlate it to Evangelion(which they ended up officially collabing with down the line.)
its not like these concepts are entirely new and unique to just one company tho... didn't they get inspirations for it from movies or something? granted hoyo should've changed things around to prevent these kinds of scenario tho... smh
reap what they sow ahh moment
nah they aint beating these allegations...
Then again, it could be unpublished concepts sitting around for as long as it did, then someone changed job and brought along those ideas to the new company, or maybe corporate espionage. So does it mean whoever gets the concept onto public lenses first wins the ownership? Anyway, plagiarism is so prevalent in China with so many stories that I can't tell what is orignal anymore.
Then again, considering the highly pathetic amount of contents released with recent filler patches in HSR together with this call out, I'm getting the impression that these guys have started to take gamers for granted. Minimal effort, maximum fast revenue strategy. I hope they aren't believing that even if they release only flashy characters with no new contents, they'll still be able to get away with very decent revenue per patch.
with the amount of evidence of plagiarizm is there a chance that hoyo ceo's know who works at the other game company and there mightve been chances where both parties have collaborated
pinned comment brother
@ no I’m sorry I don’t know anything I just randomly commented it 😭😭😭
This, with all the other stuff that hsr team copied that started to come to light on twitter, it turns out it's hoyo that is creatively bankrupt not the TOF devs with that white wolf and stuff 😂(don't get me wrong TOF is still trash tho)
They couldve easily asked these devs for permission but ig jumping the gun and instantly accusing people of something works better for yall
How did you manage to not watch the video OR see the pinned comment that literally states that a lawsuit is going to proceed in light of blatant art therft
also who just says 'yeah can I take your whole idea and copy it 1:1 pls?'
Hoyoshills never fail to make me laugh LMAOOOOO
@@MaximGacha not a shill, just not a Fan of jumping to conclusions. i clicked off tbh. thats on me, mb
@@sukaikitsune That's fair, wouldn't you say your presumption of the video and not reading pinned comments and blindly commenting be jumping to conclusions? ehehe
xtreme Kuro fanboy right here :D lmao wtf
Netease copied genshin merch and used LIYUE on their marketing
What do you think about the claims? legit or you a hoyoshill defender?
i think you are kuro shill