What really makes Firefly so overturned I think is that she's both incredibly new player friendly and free to play friendly character and is really easy to build.
New player friendly? Yes. F2P? Not rly. I will go broke trying to get her E2 on her rerun Edit: I'm back five hours later to say I've been thoroughly informed about my misconceptions of Firefly by everyone in the replies, and never before have I been more relieved to be proven wrong on a TH-cam video comment thread
@gel50n two of her best team mates are free to play chatacters that are generally good characters on their own. Ruan Mei is a great generalist support that you should roll for. FF doesn't really need E2 to function.
@@gel50n You do not need E2 it is only comfort and is completely your own choice. The only premium you need is Ruan Mei and that still is very F2P friendly. You want a Ruan Mei on your account anyway and HMC and Gallagher is free.
@gel50n She is insanely F2P friendly. She can 0-2 cycle every MoC chamber with E0 and Fall of an Aeon, and I have been doing so consistently since her release.
There will also be no character like Firefly in the sense that the SAM identity twist got leaked literally HALF a year ago before it got revealed in game. When that spoiler hit the people who do not look at leaks did not even know a character named Firefly exists. We literally learned who she is before we set foot on Penacony and the people who knew made no effort to hide it and spoiled a lot of people so it basically became a worst kept secret
It was leaked that long ago? I had a feeling the "theories" that firefly is Sam were just leakers but I only saw those like a month before the reveal, never knew it went that far back
I mean, from the White Night trailer, it was pretty apparent because SAM had the same wings as the design of Firefly’s coat with the same green aesthetic. Foreshadowing that was too obvious in my opinion.
People who like watching leaks always make sure to be as loud as possible. Honestly the only way to avoid them is to not interact with the hoyo community at all, except the big CC. For me it was a surprise and I preferit that way. I prefer being told/shown in the story rather than decrypt every tiny bit of information in every trailer, collectibles or item description. Unlike those leakers, I have a life, thank you
Just in newer iterations. I've tried her in SD and GnG, it's a nightmare. She barely does any damage because there's just no blessings there that directly increase Break damage.
@@PureLunari can confirm, i love her with all my heart but using her in SD and GnG is setting yourself up for getting cooked most of the time (sure you can win but you'll struggle a lot)
Another important aspect is how a lot of the other break supports are also fire so they they can take advantage of of firefly's implant as well (gallagher, lingsha, even perhaps fugue), in addition to just how broken firefly's technique is. It is actually insane like all enemy fire weakness implant + damage + weakness reduction every wave!!!
@@Irokumata13 You can make it consistent if you build enouth speed and Energy Regen on him. Excluding his Shield being broken and some high frequence turn advancements (how it often happens should you decide to primarily use the Hunt Path in Simulated Universe), he will have a constant shield with decent stength on all Teammates. And you also shouldnt forget that he draws 50% of all attacks with his high Aggro. Tl:Dr: If build right, he is consistent. But building him right isn't trivial, so he is considered to be inconsistent.
Gepard has the highest preservation taunt value besides march 7th, who cannot shield her team. I use gepard on trend with acheron every single pure fiction and I have aventurine. He's just far superior at giving her stacks and his shield still never runs out.
Why do I have the feeling that FF is kinda like Jingliu, massive self buffs with her BIS teammates already available. We saw how hard Jingliu fell, im curious to see what she will face
Like the vid said, the only things that would really work to bring down Firefly would hurt 'normal' characters alot more. I guess you could make enemies that can't be implanted with weaknesses, and then you're specifically shutting down Firefly Boothill and Silverwolf, so that's not a major loss, but are you going to do that to all enemies moving forward?
@@anurmi5717 Nah they're Pretty similar when it comes to their time of terror. When patch 3.0 comes is when Firefly is going to probably have a little bit of trouble because of the meta shift from SUPA BREAK to summons. Thats just my theory though.
@@MrNoms-cn6px Jingliu came out 1.4 and was weak in 2.0 and irrelevant 2.1 when Acheron released (3-4 patches). Firefly came out 2.3 and earliest possible can be powercrept 3.0 (5 patches). Even if that is the case that the new characters are better I do not see superbreak be weak anytime soon.
There's a pretty good chance that Firefly will be the only character in the game that's a "kamen rider" because every character in HSR has their own uniqueness But I still look forward to Hoyo continuing to create a sci-fi armor style character like this
@@Pneuhmonia We don't know the numbers, Jade or was it Firefly herself, only said that there might still be another Iron Cavalry somewhere in the universe, wandering around like Firefly. But that could also mean that FF is the only survivor as well.
@@AhaxD-r7gThe thing is that Firefly is canonically older than Nanook, so it's really hard to find another SAM unit in the wild. The only reason she survived this far is because of the weird ass powers she got during the animated video we saw (the suit actually scales with the user willpower, it's kinda like a power-up based on the user itself). Based on this info, another SAM unit should either have the same power up or got into some kind of stasis and woke up just recently.
@@sakurikunikai7564 i mean they did remove the boss weakness in AS, but if you attack em with Firefly EBS she ll still implant Fire weakness anyway. I didnt play FGO (last time i played there is no EN version), but the way FF fire implant reminds me of First Hassan implant Death concept on Tiamat. That Tiamat fighting scene hooked me to instal FGO only to uninstalled it right after i cursed their confusing UI.
3:09 I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is, Firefly can't use her Ult if she's CC'd after all. 4:09 Quid Pro Quo Gallagher babyyyy, also if you can rack up enough kills/hits in multi enemy game modes like Pure Fiction then 1T Ults are easy. 4:57 Apocalyptic Shadow also refreshes Ults on Break fairly often, the one time it didn't came with a 100% Action Forward which is essentially a 60% energy battery for her. I feel like Firefly was made to be Hoyo's comfiest character, considering how tanky she and her teammates can be (HMC and Ruan Mei are free to run HP/Def% mainstats). And well, they succeeded. The only reason she appreciates sustains like Gallagher and Lingsha is because of their high Toughness and Break damage amp, she can run sustainless just fine.
One charcter came close to an overload kit is Ruan Mei, like girly doesnt need all of that buffs she can give lmaooo... straight up res-pen, dmg boost, break dmg boost, break efficiency boost, SPD boost. On top of her buff being team wide and in just a press of a button. Like she was released to prepare for the next archetype (superbreak) which is the same case with Sunday(a summon support) but it's obv theyve learned what they did from her, they did not make him as all rounder as Ruan Mei was. Sure Sunday has busted support capabilities with crit centric characters but it's not like Ruan Mei where she can be used by any dps and still perform well
Thats just kinda harmony in general tbh, the main reason nihility is in the trenches is because they tend to only have a few debuffs whereas harmony characters all give 15000 buffs
Saying this right before remembrance characters start dropping is wild. FF isn't even the most disgusting character we have in terms of damage output. She's just the most straightforward, and her cleave is nice. They ideally should not release more characters like Boothill, FF, Feixiao, and Rappa (yes Rappa is still quite strong) but they will.
remembrance is a new typing, even so, if a sb unit releases with it, ff is the best choice for a support/enabler utility unit as a sub/pure dps ff is the only unit who can harmonize other break dps units in a single roster
@@omarcano6195 Fugue is more like a Rappa buff than a FF, she's pretty equal to HMC to her, but its better to wait she actually launch, because she could be like Lingsha, and look like the same as the older unit, but with right skill be largely superior.
Fr I started playing hsr when firefly came out and when i got her she was the only character that helped me so much in SU and her story and Character design also really good. I am glad I got her !
I did pull for her and like the character but I would have preferred if SAM was actually a straight up mech. She can feel boring due to not having much flexibility in her teams and she being so strong that one barely have to consider any change in strategy.
That's just HSR in general to me. HSR gameplay is defined by team building not turn to turn strategy. You are locked in to more or less the same rotation or variation of it once you built a specific team. The most influential decision the player will make is peripheral like using a normal attack to kill that low HP enemy so you can save a skill point for the next rotation. Or waiting to use your ult in the next phase instead of wasting it on the 1 hp trash mob. Maybe focus on breaking the boss before it uses the super move.
Theres been this really weird trend recently where people INSIST fireflies kit is really mid. Im convinced these people havent read it, i dont think we will ever get another break dps with a combination of giving themself high speed, omni toughness breaking, weakness implant, randomly very durable and hard to cc, has own superbreak, and gives increase break damage.
A lot of it is just cope, and I'm saying that as someone who doesn't really like FF. It's also because FF fans are like, really obnoxious about her being the biggest and baddest DPS on the block, saying "just pull firefly bro" or "imagine pulling for acheron in 2.6 when you could've just got firefly", completely unable to understand that some people just don't care for their favorite. Which is not hate, love FF all you want, but I just don't wanna.
I use her a lot ( still hate the character though). Shes good but i feel like she is t as strong as she used to seem anymore. She has a good kit thats for sure. But when she was released she was by far the best alongside with acheron. Now she is a good unit but not the best anymore. Feel like she will further fall of with the next meta coming up in 3.0
In the first beta, her kit was actually quite different, instead of offering different powers of super break damage, the break effect thresholds would give her defense penetration on her enhanced attacks, which also had a much higher break effect scaling. In other words, she would've been a regular damage dealer but that benefits from break effect stats, and I'm no theorycrafter but I think it would've been more interesting, especially with her first few eidolons giving her unseen synergy with bronya
Yup, makes her almost completely SP-neutral (to the point where I'd forgotten her enhanced basic attack even existed), and gives her defence bypass on top of that, because apparently not consuming skill points wasn't enough already. Her e2 is just as bonkers, she basically gets Seele's gimmick, free bonus turn whenever she kills or breaks any target, once per turn. I'll admit it, I swiped to make damn sure I got her e2, haven't regretted it for a second, she chews through any content I throw her at. Hell, her e2 even makes her quite useful in PF.
1:15 Strongest Most synergistic kit? Firefly being a break dps who only works with a very limited set of characters and needs a support with one specific buff in order to do well. Firefly falls flat immediately without a super break support. The only reason she has her own super break at all was so that she doesn't looks absolutely worthless without a super break support. Even then we're getting Fugue but people have already pointed out that she doesn't even entirely power creep HMC as a limited 5 star character.
@@CCC-q9f Yeah, situations. That's the point. Sure, you might be able to overtune other characters to have higher damage output, but Firefly already comes pre tuned. That's why she's so strong, because her kit is so simple. Just because you once managed to get a Luka to do a bit more damage doesn't mean FF isn't going to outplay him 99% of the time.
@@roseyoung44 Yeah, situations. Otherwise, Luka won’t be able to destroy Fireflt, but he would still performs comparable or slightly better 😂. Firefly would only outperform Luka in multi target bosses, which there are only 2 of 😂 (the choir and dino)
Idk what u wanna say , sure firefly has not many options but are those specific options hard to get? Gallagher was basically free from events and firefly banner pulls pela was also free from the events and banners and hmc is like most free e6 character u can get, unlike other units where u need to pull limited characters all the time u don't even need Ruan Mei unless u are hellbent on Zero cycling and even without ruan mei u can zero cycle moc
Thanks for this great introduction to Firefly. As a rather new player, I hope she will have a rerun soon. I look forward playing with her. Already have Lingsha and will get Fugue for her as well.
@@Hanana-h5c They drip marketed Aglaea, who will follow the new path Remembrance. And I doubt they will introduce a new path with a minor version update. So after Fugue and Sunday, we will get Aglaea and The Herta in 3.0.
I wanted SAM cause he was a crazy Kamen Rider/Guyver looking killing machine, instead they gave me a murder-waifu that lived up to the planet cracking hype. Not complaining, it's just nice when you find a free apple pie in your order.
I'm on the opposite when it was revealed that SAM and Firefly are the same. I thought SAM was gonna be a badass robot not some bland waifu trying to rizz up Trailblazer!
@@maninanikittycat4238 She is a genetically created soldier with a ton of ptsd who is just trying to navigate the world as more than a war machine. She was tasked to set the trailblazer up on a specific path but didn't expect to find friendship or someone who treats her like a normal girl. Can you even blame her if she gets attached? I don't think the Penacony arc did her justice to her trauma like they did with Rappa, but it's there in the HSR media.
@@unemployedphilosopher5072I love Firefly's story and I think Hoyoverse should continue it at some point because there is a lot of potential in her story in addition to what they told us and I think the majority of the community would love to learn more about this great character.
@@ahmadgedhe7439 I also hope Firefly could appear more often in events and missions with the others stelaron hunters. I really loved her in the story and her past as glamoth's knight! She's the best :D❤️
Firefly is really strong right now, and she felt broken when she released(i got a 0 cycle with her without any eidolons or limited lightcones), but after playing and trying to 0 cycle moc for a few versions, shes not that crazy. Her skill point issues are real, if it wasnt for gallagher, she would feel much worse to play (im not sure about lingsha teams), and other break dps dont have that issue. And there are issues in her energy generation as well. Because she only gains energy from killing enemies and getting hit, she'll need 2 skills to get her ult back, which takes a lot of AV(around as much as her enhanced state lasts). The fact that Firefly is really easy to build is a strength, but also a weekness. She already cant clear 2nd wave before her enhanced state ends at e0s0, that increases clear speed by 1-2 cycles. If hoyo increases enemy hp more, so she cant kill first wave either, her clear speed will increase by another 2 cycles, and shell struggle a lot, while a new dps with higher damage will get low cycle clears.
"She already cant clear 2nd wave before her enhanced state ends at e0s0, that increases clear speed by 1-2 cycles." ...that's why you need to build her fast, so you can end fights fast. Am I crazy? 😅 I don't know what boss you're referring to but if it's Hoolay, I don't understand what's the issue. If you have a Firefly with decent SPD, it wouldn't be much of an issue to get two Es in and have your Ult up once again in once cycle.
Getting very lucky and pulling her E2S1 on release I must say Firefly has taken my account hostage, she is almost always the best option for everything and anything
When I first heard the introduction to the topic of the video, I thought "Ugh, not another Video about how character X is bad, becuase it is destroying the game. Something, something Powercreep" But Im plesantly surprise how enjoyable this video was. It was an informative analysis about Firefly Design with a lot of thought given to how this design was created and what it can say about the developers future aproach to designing characters. I even learned something new! I didn't knew before that Firefly's ult despells all debuffs. Was a nice video to start the day with. And I wish you all the same!
Firefly being a character I personally love and also incredibly OP is honestly such a blessing. It means I can use her for many years to come without having to worry about the ever changing meta since she's *completely future proof.* Unless Hoyo decides to somehow change how the Break mechanics works or give more enemies break immunity in the future, suffice to say that Super Break comp will not fall off anytime soon. This also means that I can now just pull for units I like, rather than chasing the meta ^^
analyzing character design in gacha games is always a difficult thing to do because the developers are incentivized to do things that break game balance in favor of selling more pulls. making firefly as good as she is was just an extension of overtuning the archons in genshin. every rerun will sell incredibly well.
I truthfully see your videos very interesting, even due to the lack of uploade may be, I still watch your previous video since its unique and have much more entertaining to watch.
Only abysmal amounts of ppl care about 0 cycle, this is why Feixiao patch revenue didn't sell as much even with brand new dedicated 4* and triple banner which include a must pull Robin lol
I swear Firefly is the character who I end up constantly making better when trying to upgrade some of my other characters. I farm for Boothill relics, and I get Firefly ones instead. I pull for Dan Heng IL's light cone, and the 5 star Herta light cone becomes hers. She's a monster of a DPS.
The main reason i pulled her was because i liked her and she just happened to become the new meta, but even after she's not meta I'll use her cause why not? Play to your liking y'all there are people still using dot and blade so yeah do what u like
Honestly, the only way Firefly (and every break character) can fall of is if the devs decide to introduce more locked toughness bars on enemies effectively crippling the entire game mechanic. I don't see it happening immeditately. But I will say that there is a chance it only will be a once in a blue moon scenario kinda like how DoT is currently being treated. Break will continue to have a lot of favorable endgame content. But there will be one patch a year where they'll be completely useless due to a boss/enemies with built in toughness resistance/locked bars. But on the following patch, they're back to being strong again. As for the possibility of a character like Firefly occuring, it's not impossible. If a new character in future version ends up being incredibly loved by the fandom, then there is a strong chance the devs will sell the character with the best abilities (and give them characters/weakness type specifically built around them) Also for certain character expies in HSR, there is a very high chance the devs will sell specific characters because they're already loved by fans from HI3. The best example is Acheron, a Raiden Mei expy. If she was given so much easter egg lore and amazing gameplay, I'm curious how Hoyo will handle the introduction of a Kiana expy (or even the character herself since they share the same universe). She is Hoyo's favorite child after all and is highly likely going to recieve bias treatment from Hoyo (powercreeps all DPSes, amazing kit like Firefly, characters built for her, etc.)
When they keep releaseing Toughness lock, I would riot so they also introduce -CRT Rate debuff, and re buff enemies Status Resistance(which they nerf at 1.1 to sell DoT). Break unit already have to spent few of their turns to finally dealing dmg. which make their small dmg windows becomes smaller.
i kinda disagree because the only useful stats for her (dmg wise) are break and kinda speed while other dps have crit, crit, attack, element damage, and speed. She needed something else to work with. and having it be infinite lets her team comp be more flexible actually. obv ruan mei is by far the best, but asta and other attack buffing supports do help if you don't have ruan mei. If the attack buff was capped they probably wouldnt do anything and she would have 0 support options
@judahdeitrich2482 so why rappa doesn't have it? Why boothill doesn't have it? Having it be infinite is overturned, no one else of the break DPS has it nor does it need it
It really only makes her OP in SimU where attack buffs are severely overtuned, we don't really have a synergistic support with large attack boosts and I doubt we'll get one either. It mainly allows her to be able to use Fall of an Aeon so you aren't pressured into getting her signature and to have at least one more useful stat on her relic pieces.
when i saw firefly in the story i knew immediately that i was going to pull for her i didnt like how we were shown her "dying" and then a ton of leaks about her not being dead showed up because why would the thing that "killed" her be called death if it didnt cause death all the hints in the story lead me to assume that a creature named death who caused firefly to dissolve in front of us would actually cause that characters death especially the scene right after where you have her talking to a robot character and we dont know a robot character other than sam at this point(atleast within penacony) so her being sam still doesnt make sense there but i think everything else with her was really good as soon as i got luocha during that banner i started saving, skipped aventurine and boothill 2 characters i really wanted due to how they were written within the penacony story, skipped ruan mei knowing she was(and debatably still is) the best support in the game because i dont like her and firefly is on the same banner, saved 180 pulls for firefly since worst possible scenario thats how many pulls it takes to get a character guaranteed, expected to get e0 and be fine with that, as soon as the banner went up i got to pulling, losing the first 50 50 to gepard i pressed skip and got hit with the double 5 star, then went for the lightcone getting it in 20 pulls, then said why not and went for e1, getting that fast, and then same with e2, i did do some more pulls due to being near pity and not having guaranteed, if i got ruan mei i got her if i didnt then well i have guaranteed for argenti(another character i really like) ended up getting welt, but was so burnt out of star rail due to grinding daily from mid acheron banner to firefly banner that i barely played after pulling her, so ended up getting yunli instead(i still like her so it wasnt the worst) firefly has carried my weak account to beating moc 12 for the first time(not 3 star but good enough for me with an account thats pretty casual) and i regret nothing in pulling for e2 over ruan mei
Even if she get powercrept, she can be utilized as a support enabler unit just like how she harmonize with other break dps units What a fucking character....
I find it bizarre that she's so overly tanky, despite already making use of super break and Harmony MC which stop enemies from doing anything anyways. I mean ok she's worse at that than Boothill because of his ult or Rappa because she's imaginary. But still, it's completely unnecessary. She's more defensive than Yunli, the premium counter character!
I like the pair of Lingeha and Firefly since Lingsha can cover what Firefly lacks. Lingsha can reduced the toughness for in time for Firefly to break and as well the AOE coverage
tbf, rappa in img weak content clears firefly in fire weak content. fugue is gonna make them equally versatile too, at which point rappa will have higher opportunities.
When I first played HSR I always used support Seele because she would keep going everytime she got a kill so she could basically solo the entire Calyx. I took a break and now Firefly’s just completely broken. She heals herself, she doesn’t use skill points, weakness break doesn’t effect her during ult, and she just keeps going.
hoyoverse starving cause imagine making a fire character that implants fire weakness and make a healer and a 5 star version of hmc also fire is ridiculous, not to mention her relics literally made exclusively for her
Since super break is a separated multiplier in the formula (this was what i understood when seeing her sinergy with HMC on her release but i can be wrong) they can just make more condensed supports, like Ruan Mei but with super break to change the HMC slot to make she keep up with the meta. Fugue has the EX toughness bar thing that don't sinergizes that well, so she's pretty much equal to HMC for what i've been hearing. They can explore giving toughness bar efficiency to upgrade her damage, or make a crit support for super break, to benefit her and Bothil at the same time, this way they can make up for her unique weakness that is not doing damage against enemies that aren't broken. Other way is a support that enables super break without being break, like some effects of the new Herta SU. So besides her being more complete now, i thing if they need to bring her back to the meta, they still can, like they trying to revive King Yuan delivering the monthly Jing Yuan buff next patch with Sunday.
she would have been a perfect character if they at least gave her some more depth in the form of a Tony Stack / Steve Rogers hybrid traits. some girl in a suit of armor yet i didnt even ONCE get a glimpse of a veteran reaching out to other kindred souls and being an uplifting morally complex person with relatable outlook to life in general. all they did was turn her into somebody else’s *itch cause i guess milking lonely dumbasses has more incentive than a well written character. what a waste of potential.
I'm still upset that she's only able to be run in one single team. Once RMC comes out, I'll be using FF as a Himeko support mainly (which I'm 100% fine with, I adore Himeko)
Breakfly is a dumb concept, but sure, for you masochists who wanna bash yourselves in a wall, grinding miserably to achieve a perfect piece with ATK%/CR/CDMG/BE/SPD substats, you do you. The devs did you a massive favor.
Firefly became my favorite character because of the penacony story so when i got her i was beyond surprised at how god damn strong she was, planning my e6s5 someday
This is why I don’t get the doomposters that say shit like (Firefly will be powercrept in 3.X 🤓🤓🤓) Like, the only content she will terrible on is a fucking boss that have their toughness closed for the entire fight, which is veeeeeeery unlikely to be implemented because that means (every single character will be useless) let’s be real, “some” bosses close their toughness for 1-2 turns like Bronya Gepard but that’s only a few bosses compared to hundreds of game mobs that lack toughness-closed mechanic
Tbh toughness locking isn't an issue for most characters. It is for break teams but other teams can brute force that feature just fine it'll just be annoying that's all. And they can't really nerf break teams since superbreak just doesn't have much weakness inherently. Adding more toughness bar would ironically buff the team since they have high toughness DMG anyway. And that means enemies would have a permanent 20% DMG reduction for non break teams. The only way to nerf break teams is if enemies can recover their toughness bar earlier but imaginary break units wouldn't suffer as much since they have ridiculous action delay anyway.
It’s not just bosses that lock weakness type. It’s any enemy that locks their weakness, or just general toughness bloat since fire break has no scaling based on toughness (like physical break does)
To be frank: It's Hoyo. They can literally do whatever they want at any time. HP Inflation is just the most obvious mechanic. In Genshin, they nerfed Venti without nerfing him by taking the light enemies out of later abyss floors. They nerfed freeze by making literally nothing freeze. And Genshin is extremely tame when it comes to powercreep. They also could just make toughness bars BIGGER, thus harder to break. Look at Hoolay. 240 toughness is insane.
to be completely fair though, Acheron still has room for improvement (a sustain unit that can proactively and reliably apply debuffs, and another Nihility unit, may or may not be Fugue).
I have been pretty consistently using Quid Pro Quo Gallagher with Firefly to get back into ult in 1 skill. That lc is very good if you can manipulate the other characters' energy to force the procs into Firefly and have the lv10 skill - you only need to get 96 energy then, which is surprisingly achievable
It sucks for me that they chose firefly to overload with usefulness...because I don't really care for her that much. I'm not a big fan of the mech suit thing, it's a little upsetting that you only see firefly (beyond her face) in the overworld, when she has such a lovely design. I'm also not a big fan of break teams, either. So all in all, FF goes over my head and I can only hope they do another megahyped unit in 3.0 with a busted kit that I actually really enjoy.
I agree, about the whole mech-suit aspect not being that interesting. However, I have to say that her being "un-suted" in world is actually really cool - Especially with the design of her tech. It strikes me that is like she just jet-packs herself into the air, and then comes crashing down into the enemy like Tony Stark (complete with "superhero landing" pose. I mean; admit it, that is just cool. Conversely, I do find super-break one of my two preferred archetypes, however. So I am probably more inclined to grant her grace than you would be, simply due to her suiting my play-style specifically.
@@danelmore6553 and that's totally fair, FF has an appeal to a lot of people clearly. I just wish other characters got the same kind of love. RM has always been my favorite and I'm glad to see her coming back into the zeitgeist, at least. I plan on using Fugue in a lot of scenarios, mostly my acheron engine and possibly boothill.
I don’t think she got a bad deal. You can look at Firefly’s panties in the overworld if you’re running and looking down, which is exactly what her fans pulled her for. Not to mention basically all you see with SAM in combat is Firefly’s face cut-in.
I was so hyped for her,she has such a cool story and look,and im so glad i managed to get her with and her weapon without to many pulls,being free too play kinda sucks sometimes,but way more rewarding when it works out.
@ i dont know when shes back but she’s definitely a great character,it helps that the main character has a version that i believe you can get early,harmony trailblazer who is her best support currently so its easier to make her good.
@@anwarshadaad1553 it’s not really a meta thing tbh I just don’t enjoy her gameplay much. I used my guarantee on Aventurine and he was my first limited 5 star but I’ve wanted to pull for Acheron as well despite all the cons.
@@ameirgrant6116 forget about the cons, the important thing with Acheron is you save time by having her oneshotting overworld and simulated universe mobs with her technique. Minmax players are caught up in rhetoric engagement regarding gameplay and such is the fate of popular games where one could go to the general/vaguest opinions to heat up arguments and drive discussions into nonsensical territory.
I downloaded the game after seeing the gameplay leaks of Firefly because I really wanted to play as a big mech, and I was able to save at least 30k jades. Won the 50/50 at ~80 pity and got double gold (I can’t believe this happened on my first banner while it’s never happened to me on genshin). Decided to get Ruan Mei with my guaranteed (best decision ever) since people said she was her best support, also got her at ~80 pity. Then during a run of SU I got the blue cheese curio and realized how useful her E1 was for sp management, so I decided to try and get it: won the 50/50, also at ~80 pity (I have concluded from the few times I’ve pulled that it’s either high pity or double gold). I’m tempted to go for her E2 on rerun but I don’t wanna spend too many jades, since I’m going for Sunday and there’s other characters I’m saving for.
for me firefly was fun to play for some time but whem i got rappa on my account i only use firefly whem i actually need to use her, every other times i use rappa as my breake dps, i still love firefly with all my heart but rappa feels more fun play.
I will point out that, while Firefly's kit is designed to be very complex, it's not actually all THAT strong. She's absolutely a top tier unit for now, standing at the top of the totem pole alongside Feixaio and Acheron, but she is far from infallible. At the end of the day, most of the words that make up her kit are dedicated to enabling her to do damage consistently. Her actual damage, which comes from skilling her ult state, is pretty easy to see getting power crept by the next Break unit Hoyo tries to sell. Remember, we already have one character that directly competes with her in the form of Boothill. While the general community consensus is that Firefly is superior to Boothill in most game modes, he represents the fact that her kit isn't the end all be all of the break concept, especially considering his BiS team is still using BRONYA, of all units. Give him an advance forward unit that does literally anything to assist the Break strategy and suddenly a unit that released before her is liable to overtake her.
I think the way this scales out of it may be super break supports helping her bridge the gap. While she may eventually be surpassed by other archetypes, I don't realistically ever see her becoming "bad" unless superbreak itself falls of HARD. She has the same benefit Feixao has where her whole team deals damage, and given how many superbreak supports are fire, I think its unlikely she will be easily powercrept unless hoyo directly designs a character to powercreep her. Which in that case could lead to unexpected consequences like Dual DPS Firefly, providing evtra fire implants
Most players are casual and when it comes to ease of use firefly just way better When it comes to damage ceiling, I definitely think boothill is definitely better but that requires you to play pretty perfect
If they release a break advancer then that unit can also be used with ff + ff team is still using sustain while most of the bh faster clears involves using sustainless on his team so this is not a problem at all
5 seconds in and I am already baited, using a reddit sub and a popularity poll as examples to prove something is just a small drop in the ocean, I could only speculate in such matters when there are many pieces at play. It only served as a driving force for conversation and engagement.
The crumbs of her kit during the 1.x phase suggest that she is more of a Bruiser type of character (like Blade), but I guess they see Blade and decided to never do it again (and probably because having 2 characters with similar archetype being from the same faction doesn’t sound like a good idea)
I am actually still surprised most people still haven't realized that she has a unique weakness break effect animation compared to every other character in the game.
No joke, I tried out HSR roughly when it launched, dropped it as I lost interest, and came BACK just to pull on Firefly. I knew nothing about her gameplay at the time, I'm just a huge sucker for Tokusatsu that, you give me any kind of player character that can Henshin into a robot and i'm DOWN. I have since caught up in HSR and gotten a bit further into the 'meta' and don't use Firefly as much mostly just for variety sake and trying out other characters/teams.
Blud forgot that without a super break support she is straight up ass. All 3 break dps have a shitty thing in their kits, but this one is by far the worst imo.
I never really liked her in the story, and i pulled for her character banner because of how absurd her kit was at E0S0. Since i pulled E0S1 Rappa i haven't used her since. She might not be as good but she sure feels a lot more fun to play around with.
She has so many mechanics in her kit that even in a "non favorable" moc she should be able to clear with her best team but the devs keep catering endgame to her kit so much it's ruined the endgame for other characters. Also because of the recent avg enemy health buff in the recent endgame modes it's becoming really hard to clear with older characters, so to hell with pulling for units you actually like ig
tbh even with an extremely good kit she's no longer the best dps in the game for a while since feixiao dropped, heck, even rappa (in aoe) and boothill (in st) are giving her a run. and as fugue isnt that much of an upgrade for FF as she is for the other break dps'es plus new remembrance meta coming, she's getting behind now. the powercreep in hsr can be brutal sometimes
be fr bro feixiao top dps? said the same when jingliu and acheron dropped lmaooo rappa can't do shit if enemies aren't imaginary, most likely to drag 4 cycles below boothill's usage are non existent in pf so what a waste of stellar jades Unlike ff, she's all in one, every content you slap unto her table, she eats it for an e0s0 character, its better to get ff and hoard as much as jades as you want rather than pulling niche characters e2 ff is by far also one of the best eidolons in the game in regards to cost value
@@zxcentsensei.sunder Feixiao is an absolute monster and can brute force anything right now. She doesn't *need* her premium team and she is overkilling with them. Her clear times clear everybody and she's even showing to be a monster in Pure Fiction.
@@LuizFernando-he8mc nigga that's just robin showcase LMAO crit dps can't be compared to break dps since these are only two different types of archetypes in dmg if you wanna compare a crit dps, compare it to crit otherwise in lower cost, break teams scores higher feixiao would eventually get powercrept in 3.0+ after new crit dps comes out lmaoaoao
I love Firefly & she's still one of my favorite char in HSR along with Acheron & Feixiao...but all 3 off them were already slightly powercrept by Rappa who ults easily like Firefly, but she deals 300k to 500k dmg to all 5 enemies unlike Firefly who only deals dmg to 3 targets.
As far as her damage goes, we have much better options (her floor is low but so is her ceiling. We are at her ceiling now) But as far as everything else goes, she is super comfy. i will be using New MC path because I’m a stelle and March fan girl and I love our starter pokemon 😂 but my e2 firefly can hang out with himeko in pure fiction if I ever need additional fire break. She is pretty flexible if you don’t want to run her as superbreak just don’t expect much damage out of her, just utility… and honestly she’s quite tanky like how does she have more base def than aventurine hahah
I feel like I won the lottery that I installed this game for FF and then got a double of her in soft pity. E1 Firefly had me cruising through every piece of content until that recent Hoolay story boss.
I’m not a fan of Firefly’s Kit myself Maybe it’s just I don’t care for overly broken dps unless they’re like my favorite character in the whole game 😭🤚 Also because Firefly mains are…really annoying😭 I’d rather just gravitate to characters like Rappa, Xueyi, or Boothill or even Himeko instead I love Firefly, but I’ll probably never pull her.
WAIT FIREFLY IS PLAYABLE?? I legit stopped playing when she fucking died because I loved her so much I was just done lmao I might just get back into Star Rail if I can get her
Well good for you there have been leaks that she will be rerun in the 2nd half of 2.7 the next version so if you start playing now you should be able to get her.
Holy f the amount of glaze fireflop gets in the casual community is unreal. The girl cant even 0c her own moc boss better than other units and is literally one if the worst dps units to ever exist in terms of 0c content, yet the casuals praise her like shes the 2nd robin lmao.
Firefly is the perfect storm of a character, lots of buildup in the story, good character development, the first and so far best in her archetype and can basically make her own niche happen compared to other dps who sometimes need a perfect team to work like the follow up team. It helps that Firefly got the free buffer of Harmony MC shortly after, and if leaks are correct then Fugue will also increase the Firefly stocks.
@@phrinusto be fair it isn't complete yet since she's a stellaron hunter, we can see her most often throughout the story nigga really judged a book by its cover
@@phrinuslol fym? sunday is a regional character where as ff can be progressive through out the story ff is based from shaoji's gf, that's bold of you assuming things you don't know
@@phrinus The way I see it, she went from SAM mentioned by the Stelleron Hunters who is a brutal war criminal, to Firefly the Penacony guide, to SAM the boss, to the twist reveal and finally to Firefly the canon Girlfriend. It also helps that the hunters are likely to keep popping up because they seem to run parallel to the express's story. Good development to me, at least compared to someone like Seele who we haven't seen in like a year now.
I've discussed who I think is stronger between acharon, firefly, and feixiao with a few of my friends that all play, and we've decided that overall feixaio is probably the strongest unit. She has strict team requirement setups, kind of like Firefly, but her damage is just so astronomically high and her team's syergy is so good that it outweighs almost any negatives. She has. Mind you, her e2 is probably even more powerful than firefly E2 which is saying something
Personally, I don't like firefly...I don't understand why she was trying to attack us in penacony, and was talking to "someone" but they never explain who...I think it's kinda made clear that they are the same person after 2.1 so...
I hope they elaborate on this a bit further next time she shiws up in the story. In her trailer it also shows SAM somewhat as a separate entity. Could be interesting either as a bit of a split personality thing or maybe the suit has some sort of AI built in. I definitely think her story is far from over so hopefully she shows up with the rest of the Stellaron Hunters in the future.
@kyrogamingvt9716 the game is terrible, theyve set up to many plot points that are never going to be explained, and seeing the future content, never going to happen, were doomed,
@@thagrizz5497 If it is important enough it will be covered later on. A character arc does not have to start and end all in a single sequence. Hell take Elio for example. Know very little, but keep getting bits of info here and there.
@@thagrizz5497 Then stop playing Mihoyo games all together. Kiana's story arc took place across like 5 years for example. Genshin's Traveler arc gets expanded on toward the end of each major region story arc.
the kitchen was burnt down but the cake was perfect
This is the best analogy ever
It is true, your analogy-game is on point.
it was like fireflies to a flame.
@@2s4t"I present cake"
@@2s4tkitchen begets destruction
What really makes Firefly so overturned I think is that she's both incredibly new player friendly and free to play friendly character and is really easy to build.
New player friendly? Yes. F2P? Not rly. I will go broke trying to get her E2 on her rerun
Edit: I'm back five hours later to say I've been thoroughly informed about my misconceptions of Firefly by everyone in the replies, and never before have I been more relieved to be proven wrong on a TH-cam video comment thread
@gel50n two of her best team mates are free to play chatacters that are generally good characters on their own. Ruan Mei is a great generalist support that you should roll for. FF doesn't really need E2 to function.
As a f2p player, she covers my other team phenomenally.
@@gel50n You do not need E2 it is only comfort and is completely your own choice. The only premium you need is Ruan Mei and that still is very F2P friendly. You want a Ruan Mei on your account anyway and HMC and Gallagher is free.
@gel50n She is insanely F2P friendly. She can 0-2 cycle every MoC chamber with E0 and Fall of an Aeon, and I have been doing so consistently since her release.
her gameplay is litteraly just skill into ult into skill into skill into skill into skill into skill into skill
Yeah! She plays like she's some kind of relentless mech super soldier.
---WAIT A SECOND
@@DeificNines Lore Accurate gameplay 💀
uhm so like, any other characers?
@@AhaxD-r7g not seele 🗣🗣🗣
Skill>skill>ult>skill>skill>ult>>> 🫢, so different much wow
There will also be no character like Firefly in the sense that the SAM identity twist got leaked literally HALF a year ago before it got revealed in game. When that spoiler hit the people who do not look at leaks did not even know a character named Firefly exists. We literally learned who she is before we set foot on Penacony and the people who knew made no effort to hide it and spoiled a lot of people so it basically became a worst kept secret
That's is why I hate leakers, in general sense. I'm fine if it leakers who showcase animation and kits for characters not spoilers.
It was leaked that long ago? I had a feeling the "theories" that firefly is Sam were just leakers but I only saw those like a month before the reveal, never knew it went that far back
I mean, from the White Night trailer, it was pretty apparent because SAM had the same wings as the design of Firefly’s coat with the same green aesthetic. Foreshadowing that was too obvious in my opinion.
yeah sam and firefly as well as the “twist” were leaked only a few months after hsr was released along with other penacony elements
People who like watching leaks always make sure to be as loud as possible. Honestly the only way to avoid them is to not interact with the hoyo community at all, except the big CC.
For me it was a surprise and I preferit that way. I prefer being told/shown in the story rather than decrypt every tiny bit of information in every trailer, collectibles or item description.
Unlike those leakers, I have a life, thank you
Decreasing and increasing the Firefly's health is useful in the simulated universe.
straight up broken
Just in newer iterations. I've tried her in SD and GnG, it's a nightmare. She barely does any damage because there's just no blessings there that directly increase Break damage.
@@PureLunari can confirm, i love her with all my heart but using her in SD and GnG is setting yourself up for getting cooked most of the time (sure you can win but you'll struggle a lot)
you can use the blessing "All in abundance mind" that shares healing for the entire team and have a FF support
and for lingsha too
Another important aspect is how a lot of the other break supports are also fire so they they can take advantage of of firefly's implant as well (gallagher, lingsha, even perhaps fugue), in addition to just how broken firefly's technique is. It is actually insane like all enemy fire weakness implant + damage + weakness reduction every wave!!!
Ahem* trotters
@@itsdarkhere Ahem* fugue
Meanwhile, we have Gepard with... a shield being the only thing he consistently uses
his shield is consistent?
@@Irokumata13 like 80 percent
Not even consistently sometimes
@@Irokumata13 You can make it consistent if you build enouth speed and Energy Regen on him. Excluding his Shield being broken and some high frequence turn advancements (how it often happens should you decide to primarily use the Hunt Path in Simulated Universe), he will have a constant shield with decent stength on all Teammates. And you also shouldnt forget that he draws 50% of all attacks with his high Aggro.
Tl:Dr: If build right, he is consistent. But building him right isn't trivial, so he is considered to be inconsistent.
Gepard has the highest preservation taunt value besides march 7th, who cannot shield her team. I use gepard on trend with acheron every single pure fiction and I have aventurine. He's just far superior at giving her stacks and his shield still never runs out.
Firefly is what every elementary schoolers gives their imaginary heroes/villains
i cannot wait to finally get her, starting the game right after her banner ended was painful.
I wouldn't recommend getting her. Mainly cuz ik she's gonna get powercrept in the future.
@@PuppyGamePlayzAlet that person pull what he/she want
Not everyone pulls for meta purpose
@@PuppyGamePlayzA That's the case for every DPS in Gacha games. No point in worrying about it.
@@PuppyGamePlayzA 4 patches, never dropped a tier and will always be on 0
get real
@@PuppyGamePlayzA lol are you new to gacha games? if thats your reason then dont pull any dps 😂
Why do I have the feeling that FF is kinda like Jingliu, massive self buffs with her BIS teammates already available. We saw how hard Jingliu fell, im curious to see what she will face
She has already been on the top for longer than Jingliu and do not see her falling down very soon.
Like the vid said, the only things that would really work to bring down Firefly would hurt 'normal' characters alot more. I guess you could make enemies that can't be implanted with weaknesses, and then you're specifically shutting down Firefly Boothill and Silverwolf, so that's not a major loss, but are you going to do that to all enemies moving forward?
@@anurmi5717 Nah they're Pretty similar when it comes to their time of terror. When patch 3.0 comes is when Firefly is going to probably have a little bit of trouble because of the meta shift from SUPA BREAK to summons. Thats just my theory though.
@@MrNoms-cn6px Jingliu came out 1.4 and was weak in 2.0 and irrelevant 2.1 when Acheron released (3-4 patches). Firefly came out 2.3 and earliest possible can be powercrept 3.0 (5 patches). Even if that is the case that the new characters are better I do not see superbreak be weak anytime soon.
@@anurmi5717superbreak is just op, it will never be powrcrept
There's a pretty good chance that Firefly will be the only character in the game that's a "kamen rider" because every character in HSR has their own uniqueness
But I still look forward to Hoyo continuing to create a sci-fi armor style character like this
Aren't there still 2 to 3 knights from the glamoth calvary that are alive?
@@Pneuhmonia We don't know the numbers, Jade or was it Firefly herself, only said that there might still be another Iron Cavalry somewhere in the universe, wandering around like Firefly. But that could also mean that FF is the only survivor as well.
@@AhaxD-r7gThe thing is that Firefly is canonically older than Nanook, so it's really hard to find another SAM unit in the wild. The only reason she survived this far is because of the weird ass powers she got during the animated video we saw (the suit actually scales with the user willpower, it's kinda like a power-up based on the user itself). Based on this info, another SAM unit should either have the same power up or got into some kind of stasis and woke up just recently.
@@soep19 If there ever is another SAM, I wish it was the tomboy in her Myriad Celestia
Till Fate characters exist in this game, Firefly has her throne
David Jiang is a massive Archer fan, he is going to be extremly overturned 100%
or till they remove weaknesses from enemies
@@sakurikunikai7564 She'll just add Fire weakness to them anyway. 😏
@@sakurikunikai7564 i mean they did remove the boss weakness in AS, but if you attack em with Firefly EBS she ll still implant Fire weakness anyway.
I didnt play FGO (last time i played there is no EN version), but the way FF fire implant reminds me of First Hassan implant Death concept on Tiamat.
That Tiamat fighting scene hooked me to instal FGO only to uninstalled it right after i cursed their confusing UI.
@@sakurikunikai7564or just some fully Ruan Mei counter, similar to Hoolay but has a recovery after 4 turns of your team.
3:09 I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is, Firefly can't use her Ult if she's CC'd after all.
4:09 Quid Pro Quo Gallagher babyyyy, also if you can rack up enough kills/hits in multi enemy game modes like Pure Fiction then 1T Ults are easy.
4:57 Apocalyptic Shadow also refreshes Ults on Break fairly often, the one time it didn't came with a 100% Action Forward which is essentially a 60% energy battery for her.
I feel like Firefly was made to be Hoyo's comfiest character, considering how tanky she and her teammates can be (HMC and Ruan Mei are free to run HP/Def% mainstats). And well, they succeeded. The only reason she appreciates sustains like Gallagher and Lingsha is because of their high Toughness and Break damage amp, she can run sustainless just fine.
One charcter came close to an overload kit is Ruan Mei, like girly doesnt need all of that buffs she can give lmaooo... straight up res-pen, dmg boost, break dmg boost, break efficiency boost, SPD boost. On top of her buff being team wide and in just a press of a button. Like she was released to prepare for the next archetype (superbreak) which is the same case with Sunday(a summon support) but it's obv theyve learned what they did from her, they did not make him as all rounder as Ruan Mei was. Sure Sunday has busted support capabilities with crit centric characters but it's not like Ruan Mei where she can be used by any dps and still perform well
Thats just kinda harmony in general tbh, the main reason nihility is in the trenches is because they tend to only have a few debuffs whereas harmony characters all give 15000 buffs
Saying this right before remembrance characters start dropping is wild.
FF isn't even the most disgusting character we have in terms of damage output. She's just the most straightforward, and her cleave is nice. They ideally should not release more characters like Boothill, FF, Feixiao, and Rappa (yes Rappa is still quite strong) but they will.
remembrance is a new typing, even so, if a sb unit releases with it, ff is the best choice for a support/enabler utility unit as a sub/pure dps
ff is the only unit who can harmonize other break dps units in a single roster
fact
Robin is more busted tbh
@@firte3899 break comps not crit
@@zxcentsensei.sunder This is assuming that newer Break DPSs are all Fire and don't have their own weakness implant.
Very happy with my E2 Firefly that I've been running since day 1 casually doing a million damage to anything without that silly little white bar.
yeah since E2 FF i never suffered again on endgame content even PF can be cleared easely
You think I should pull for fugue or go for e2 ff?
I also plan to pull for Sunday
@@omarcano6195 Fugue is more like a Rappa buff than a FF, she's pretty equal to HMC to her, but its better to wait she actually launch, because she could be like Lingsha, and look like the same as the older unit, but with right skill be largely superior.
@@lucasayabe alright thanks for the info
Bro, got her when her banner dropped, and being with her since day one!
Definitely worth it!
Fr I started playing hsr when firefly came out and when i got her she was the only character that helped me so much in SU and her story and Character design also really good.
I am glad I got her !
I did pull for her and like the character but I would have preferred if SAM was actually a straight up mech. She can feel boring due to not having much flexibility in her teams and she being so strong that one barely have to consider any change in strategy.
That's just HSR in general to me. HSR gameplay is defined by team building not turn to turn strategy. You are locked in to more or less the same rotation or variation of it once you built a specific team. The most influential decision the player will make is peripheral like using a normal attack to kill that low HP enemy so you can save a skill point for the next rotation. Or waiting to use your ult in the next phase instead of wasting it on the 1 hp trash mob. Maybe focus on breaking the boss before it uses the super move.
Theres been this really weird trend recently where people INSIST fireflies kit is really mid. Im convinced these people havent read it, i dont think we will ever get another break dps with a combination of giving themself high speed, omni toughness breaking, weakness implant, randomly very durable and hard to cc, has own superbreak, and gives increase break damage.
they know, it's just that they're salty as to why ff being an absurd unit compared to their dps who constantly drops down a tier every 2 patches lol
Ever heard of powercreep yeah just give it 6 months max
A lot of it is just cope, and I'm saying that as someone who doesn't really like FF. It's also because FF fans are like, really obnoxious about her being the biggest and baddest DPS on the block, saying "just pull firefly bro" or "imagine pulling for acheron in 2.6 when you could've just got firefly", completely unable to understand that some people just don't care for their favorite. Which is not hate, love FF all you want, but I just don't wanna.
@@daijoubun6648word for word
I use her a lot ( still hate the character though). Shes good but i feel like she is t as strong as she used to seem anymore. She has a good kit thats for sure. But when she was released she was by far the best alongside with acheron. Now she is a good unit but not the best anymore. Feel like she will further fall of with the next meta coming up in 3.0
In the first beta, her kit was actually quite different, instead of offering different powers of super break damage, the break effect thresholds would give her defense penetration on her enhanced attacks, which also had a much higher break effect scaling. In other words, she would've been a regular damage dealer but that benefits from break effect stats, and I'm no theorycrafter but I think it would've been more interesting, especially with her first few eidolons giving her unseen synergy with bronya
Fireflies e1 is so crazy good, i got it f2p and my god it makes firefly so insane
same
Yup, makes her almost completely SP-neutral (to the point where I'd forgotten her enhanced basic attack even existed), and gives her defence bypass on top of that, because apparently not consuming skill points wasn't enough already.
Her e2 is just as bonkers, she basically gets Seele's gimmick, free bonus turn whenever she kills or breaks any target, once per turn. I'll admit it, I swiped to make damn sure I got her e2, haven't regretted it for a second, she chews through any content I throw her at. Hell, her e2 even makes her quite useful in PF.
Same, easily one of the best e1s in the game. It makes her so comfy to play
E2 Firefly or E0 Lingsha for Firefly team?
@@JMike-bq6rle2 ff
I've been playing FF since her relase and I didn't even know she dispell all debuffs when she ults.
1:15 Strongest Most synergistic kit? Firefly being a break dps who only works with a very limited set of characters and needs a support with one specific buff in order to do well. Firefly falls flat immediately without a super break support. The only reason she has her own super break at all was so that she doesn't looks absolutely worthless without a super break support. Even then we're getting Fugue but people have already pointed out that she doesn't even entirely power creep HMC as a limited 5 star character.
Facts lmfao. There are even situations where a Luka+ Fugue absolutely destroy FF
@@CCC-q9f Yeah, situations. That's the point. Sure, you might be able to overtune other characters to have higher damage output, but Firefly already comes pre tuned. That's why she's so strong, because her kit is so simple. Just because you once managed to get a Luka to do a bit more damage doesn't mean FF isn't going to outplay him 99% of the time.
@@CCC-q9f exceptions =/= rule
@@roseyoung44 Yeah, situations. Otherwise, Luka won’t be able to destroy Fireflt, but he would still performs comparable or slightly better 😂. Firefly would only outperform Luka in multi target bosses, which there are only 2 of 😂 (the choir and dino)
Idk what u wanna say , sure firefly has not many options but are those specific options hard to get? Gallagher was basically free from events and firefly banner pulls pela was also free from the events and banners and hmc is like most free e6 character u can get, unlike other units where u need to pull limited characters all the time u don't even need Ruan Mei unless u are hellbent on Zero cycling and even without ruan mei u can zero cycle moc
Thanks for this great introduction to Firefly. As a rather new player, I hope she will have a rerun soon. I look forward playing with her. Already have Lingsha and will get Fugue for her as well.
I believe there were leaks about Firefly getting her rerun in the next patch or patch 2.8, so she'll likely be here again very soon
2nd part of the next patch
@@Hanana-h5cthere is no patch 2.8
How can you be sure of that?@@Goblinhandler
@@Hanana-h5c They drip marketed Aglaea, who will follow the new path Remembrance. And I doubt they will introduce a new path with a minor version update. So after Fugue and Sunday, we will get Aglaea and The Herta in 3.0.
I wanted SAM cause he was a crazy Kamen Rider/Guyver looking killing machine, instead they gave me a murder-waifu that lived up to the planet cracking hype.
Not complaining, it's just nice when you find a free apple pie in your order.
I'm on the opposite when it was revealed that SAM and Firefly are the same. I thought SAM was gonna be a badass robot not some bland waifu trying to rizz up Trailblazer!
@@maninanikittycat4238 She is a genetically created soldier with a ton of ptsd who is just trying to navigate the world as more than a war machine. She was tasked to set the trailblazer up on a specific path but didn't expect to find friendship or someone who treats her like a normal girl. Can you even blame her if she gets attached? I don't think the Penacony arc did her justice to her trauma like they did with Rappa, but it's there in the HSR media.
@@unemployedphilosopher5072I love Firefly's story and I think Hoyoverse should continue it at some point because there is a lot of potential in her story in addition to what they told us and I think the majority of the community would love to learn more about this great character.
@@jonathanaguirre2754that a good idea, i also want more firefly in the story
@@ahmadgedhe7439 I also hope Firefly could appear more often in events and missions with the others stelaron hunters. I really loved her in the story and her past as glamoth's knight! She's the best :D❤️
are you sure? she can still have a follow up attack, a debuff on E or AA and a summon that also heal
9:25 Small correction, but JL herself does gain a lot from the HP Consumption, which is an additional 540% or so ATK (I don't remember the actual max)
Firefly is really strong right now, and she felt broken when she released(i got a 0 cycle with her without any eidolons or limited lightcones), but after playing and trying to 0 cycle moc for a few versions, shes not that crazy.
Her skill point issues are real, if it wasnt for gallagher, she would feel much worse to play (im not sure about lingsha teams), and other break dps dont have that issue.
And there are issues in her energy generation as well. Because she only gains energy from killing enemies and getting hit, she'll need 2 skills to get her ult back, which takes a lot of AV(around as much as her enhanced state lasts).
The fact that Firefly is really easy to build is a strength, but also a weekness. She already cant clear 2nd wave before her enhanced state ends at e0s0, that increases clear speed by 1-2 cycles. If hoyo increases enemy hp more, so she cant kill first wave either, her clear speed will increase by another 2 cycles, and shell struggle a lot, while a new dps with higher damage will get low cycle clears.
"She already cant clear 2nd wave before her enhanced state ends at e0s0, that increases clear speed by 1-2 cycles."
...that's why you need to build her fast, so you can end fights fast. Am I crazy? 😅 I don't know what boss you're referring to but if it's Hoolay, I don't understand what's the issue. If you have a Firefly with decent SPD, it wouldn't be much of an issue to get two Es in and have your Ult up once again in once cycle.
Getting very lucky and pulling her E2S1 on release I must say Firefly has taken my account hostage, she is almost always the best option for everything and anything
When I first heard the introduction to the topic of the video, I thought "Ugh, not another Video about how character X is bad, becuase it is destroying the game. Something, something Powercreep"
But Im plesantly surprise how enjoyable this video was. It was an informative analysis about Firefly Design with a lot of thought given to how this design was created and what it can say about the developers future aproach to designing characters. I even learned something new! I didn't knew before that Firefly's ult despells all debuffs.
Was a nice video to start the day with. And I wish you all the same!
Firefly being a character I personally love and also incredibly OP is honestly such a blessing. It means I can use her for many years to come without having to worry about the ever changing meta since she's *completely future proof.* Unless Hoyo decides to somehow change how the Break mechanics works or give more enemies break immunity in the future, suffice to say that Super Break comp will not fall off anytime soon.
This also means that I can now just pull for units I like, rather than chasing the meta ^^
analyzing character design in gacha games is always a difficult thing to do because the developers are incentivized to do things that break game balance in favor of selling more pulls. making firefly as good as she is was just an extension of overtuning the archons in genshin. every rerun will sell incredibly well.
I mean, she needed to, the hype behind her was REALLY big
I truthfully see your videos very interesting, even due to the lack of uploade may be, I still watch your previous video since its unique and have much more entertaining to watch.
xolze telos bout to have a field day with this one 😂
bro had diarrhea seeing this video
the mutualism of rent free lmao
Only abysmal amounts of ppl care about 0 cycle, this is why Feixiao patch revenue didn't sell as much even with brand new dedicated 4* and triple banner which include a must pull Robin lol
Who cares about that loser
Resident FF detester
I love Firefly, great kit, and the references in her character & attack names
This won’t age well
We all know what wilp happen to a meta DPS when they rerun.
Great video, keep it up, earned my sub 👍🏽
I swear Firefly is the character who I end up constantly making better when trying to upgrade some of my other characters. I farm for Boothill relics, and I get Firefly ones instead. I pull for Dan Heng IL's light cone, and the 5 star Herta light cone becomes hers. She's a monster of a DPS.
Is this Xiangling copypasta
@Ale-Y No, it's legit. I feel like she's my Xiangling though
The main reason i pulled her was because i liked her and she just happened to become the new meta, but even after she's not meta I'll use her cause why not? Play to your liking y'all there are people still using dot and blade so yeah do what u like
FF doesn't suck for the most part. Her fandom on the other hand......
FF haiters fandom is very toxic
@@228Drake So are the FF lovers fandom, double edged sword
Kevin watching on the sidelines sharpening his sword
Honestly, the only way Firefly (and every break character) can fall of is if the devs decide to introduce more locked toughness bars on enemies effectively crippling the entire game mechanic. I don't see it happening immeditately. But I will say that there is a chance it only will be a once in a blue moon scenario kinda like how DoT is currently being treated. Break will continue to have a lot of favorable endgame content. But there will be one patch a year where they'll be completely useless due to a boss/enemies with built in toughness resistance/locked bars. But on the following patch, they're back to being strong again.
As for the possibility of a character like Firefly occuring, it's not impossible. If a new character in future version ends up being incredibly loved by the fandom, then there is a strong chance the devs will sell the character with the best abilities (and give them characters/weakness type specifically built around them)
Also for certain character expies in HSR, there is a very high chance the devs will sell specific characters because they're already loved by fans from HI3. The best example is Acheron, a Raiden Mei expy. If she was given so much easter egg lore and amazing gameplay, I'm curious how Hoyo will handle the introduction of a Kiana expy (or even the character herself since they share the same universe). She is Hoyo's favorite child after all and is highly likely going to recieve bias treatment from Hoyo (powercreeps all DPSes, amazing kit like Firefly, characters built for her, etc.)
When they keep releaseing Toughness lock, I would riot so they also introduce -CRT Rate debuff, and re buff enemies Status Resistance(which they nerf at 1.1 to sell DoT).
Break unit already have to spent few of their turns to finally dealing dmg. which make their small dmg windows becomes smaller.
As the most hated Firefly main (got E4S1 in 120 pulls) i have to say she is my favorite dps atm, plus her design and skills are really nice
Well giving her an infinite scalation on the atk break ration exchange was a little too much
i kinda disagree because the only useful stats for her (dmg wise) are break and kinda speed while other dps have crit, crit, attack, element damage, and speed. She needed something else to work with. and having it be infinite lets her team comp be more flexible actually. obv ruan mei is by far the best, but asta and other attack buffing supports do help if you don't have ruan mei. If the attack buff was capped they probably wouldnt do anything and she would have 0 support options
@judahdeitrich2482 so why rappa doesn't have it? Why boothill doesn't have it? Having it be infinite is overturned, no one else of the break DPS has it nor does it need it
It really only makes her OP in SimU where attack buffs are severely overtuned, we don't really have a synergistic support with large attack boosts and I doubt we'll get one either. It mainly allows her to be able to use Fall of an Aeon so you aren't pressured into getting her signature and to have at least one more useful stat on her relic pieces.
"there will never be another character like firefly"
The millions of clones: what?
when i saw firefly in the story i knew immediately that i was going to pull for her
i didnt like how we were shown her "dying" and then a ton of leaks about her not being dead showed up because why would the thing that "killed" her be called death if it didnt cause death all the hints in the story lead me to assume that a creature named death who caused firefly to dissolve in front of us would actually cause that characters death especially the scene right after where you have her talking to a robot character and we dont know a robot character other than sam at this point(atleast within penacony) so her being sam still doesnt make sense there but i think everything else with her was really good
as soon as i got luocha during that banner i started saving, skipped aventurine and boothill 2 characters i really wanted due to how they were written within the penacony story, skipped ruan mei knowing she was(and debatably still is) the best support in the game because i dont like her and firefly is on the same banner, saved 180 pulls for firefly since worst possible scenario thats how many pulls it takes to get a character guaranteed, expected to get e0 and be fine with that, as soon as the banner went up i got to pulling, losing the first 50 50 to gepard i pressed skip and got hit with the double 5 star, then went for the lightcone getting it in 20 pulls, then said why not and went for e1, getting that fast, and then same with e2, i did do some more pulls due to being near pity and not having guaranteed, if i got ruan mei i got her if i didnt then well i have guaranteed for argenti(another character i really like) ended up getting welt, but was so burnt out of star rail due to grinding daily from mid acheron banner to firefly banner that i barely played after pulling her, so ended up getting yunli instead(i still like her so it wasnt the worst)
firefly has carried my weak account to beating moc 12 for the first time(not 3 star but good enough for me with an account thats pretty casual) and i regret nothing in pulling for e2 over ruan mei
Even if she get powercrept, she can be utilized as a support enabler unit just like how she harmonize with other break dps units
What a fucking character....
Pov: gets powercreept in that role too
@@shaine9968video already stated she can't, go to sleep unc, stop inhaling copium
@@shaine9968They can’t powercreep away Gallagher/Lingsha and Himeko’s best support
Even if she gets powercrept it won’t be by much at all
Bro doesn't know about pyro res. Reminds of the times, when monoquantum was supposed to be OP.
For fixing the problem of not doing well against 5 enemies at once, I just run her with himeko and watch the break damage roll in
I find it bizarre that she's so overly tanky, despite already making use of super break and Harmony MC which stop enemies from doing anything anyways. I mean ok she's worse at that than Boothill because of his ult or Rappa because she's imaginary. But still, it's completely unnecessary. She's more defensive than Yunli, the premium counter character!
She has a higher base DEF than Aventurine
The more you know 😆
I find it hilarious how both HMC and Firefly have higher base Def than Aven and Gepard 😂😢
Well, I'd assume an armor made of steel would be pretty tanky.
I like the pair of Lingeha and Firefly since Lingsha can cover what Firefly lacks. Lingsha can reduced the toughness for in time for Firefly to break and as well the AOE coverage
People try to downplay her power. Especially the Rappa mains.....
really? you mean all 3 of them? 😂 honestly most of the toxicity comes from Boothill and Acheron mains.
tbf, rappa in img weak content clears firefly in fire weak content. fugue is gonna make them equally versatile too, at which point rappa will have higher opportunities.
When I first played HSR I always used support Seele because she would keep going everytime she got a kill so she could basically solo the entire Calyx. I took a break and now Firefly’s just completely broken. She heals herself, she doesn’t use skill points, weakness break doesn’t effect her during ult, and she just keeps going.
hoyoverse starving cause imagine making a fire character that implants fire weakness and make a healer and a 5 star version of hmc also fire is ridiculous, not to mention her relics literally made exclusively for her
Since super break is a separated multiplier in the formula (this was what i understood when seeing her sinergy with HMC on her release but i can be wrong) they can just make more condensed supports, like Ruan Mei but with super break to change the HMC slot to make she keep up with the meta. Fugue has the EX toughness bar thing that don't sinergizes that well, so she's pretty much equal to HMC for what i've been hearing.
They can explore giving toughness bar efficiency to upgrade her damage, or make a crit support for super break, to benefit her and Bothil at the same time, this way they can make up for her unique weakness that is not doing damage against enemies that aren't broken.
Other way is a support that enables super break without being break, like some effects of the new Herta SU.
So besides her being more complete now, i thing if they need to bring her back to the meta, they still can, like they trying to revive King Yuan delivering the monthly Jing Yuan buff next patch with Sunday.
she would have been a perfect character if they at least gave her some more depth in the form of a Tony Stack / Steve Rogers hybrid traits. some girl in a suit of armor yet i didnt even ONCE get a glimpse of a veteran reaching out to other kindred souls and being an uplifting morally complex person with relatable outlook to life in general. all they did was turn her into somebody else’s *itch cause i guess milking lonely dumbasses has more incentive than a well written character. what a waste of potential.
I would have liked her if she was a boy but then again I love husbandos
Marvel is cringe
Firefly has literally "But wait, there's more!" kit
Can't wait Phainon to come out and people say "There Will Never Be Another Character Like Phainon", then repeat for the 4.X and so on.
I miss V2 Critfly.
The raw multipliers she was able to produce were out of this world
I'm still upset that she's only able to be run in one single team. Once RMC comes out, I'll be using FF as a Himeko support mainly (which I'm 100% fine with, I adore Himeko)
Breakfly is a dumb concept, but sure, for you masochists who wanna bash yourselves in a wall, grinding miserably to achieve a perfect piece with ATK%/CR/CDMG/BE/SPD substats, you do you. The devs did you a massive favor.
@@ladyhdwastaken just pull Fuge or don't use RMC, even if RMC is better than HMC you won't need it at all to clear content.
@@Grayewicked I already had the set from grinding Xueyi
Firefly became my favorite character because of the penacony story so when i got her i was beyond surprised at how god damn strong she was, planning my e6s5 someday
This is why I don’t get the doomposters that say shit like (Firefly will be powercrept in 3.X 🤓🤓🤓)
Like, the only content she will terrible on is a fucking boss that have their toughness closed for the entire fight, which is veeeeeeery unlikely to be implemented because that means (every single character will be useless) let’s be real, “some” bosses close their toughness for 1-2 turns like Bronya Gepard but that’s only a few bosses compared to hundreds of game mobs that lack toughness-closed mechanic
ILL GET YOU THE SPEAKER DW
Tbh toughness locking isn't an issue for most characters. It is for break teams but other teams can brute force that feature just fine it'll just be annoying that's all.
And they can't really nerf break teams since superbreak just doesn't have much weakness inherently. Adding more toughness bar would ironically buff the team since they have high toughness DMG anyway. And that means enemies would have a permanent 20% DMG reduction for non break teams. The only way to nerf break teams is if enemies can recover their toughness bar earlier but imaginary break units wouldn't suffer as much since they have ridiculous action delay anyway.
It’s not just bosses that lock weakness type. It’s any enemy that locks their weakness, or just general toughness bloat since fire break has no scaling based on toughness (like physical break does)
Or Trotter Catch domain spam.
To be frank: It's Hoyo. They can literally do whatever they want at any time. HP Inflation is just the most obvious mechanic. In Genshin, they nerfed Venti without nerfing him by taking the light enemies out of later abyss floors. They nerfed freeze by making literally nothing freeze. And Genshin is extremely tame when it comes to powercreep.
They also could just make toughness bars BIGGER, thus harder to break. Look at Hoolay. 240 toughness is insane.
Short answer: A genetically modified clone bred for war, with a life force connected to a mech suit engineered for war.
That’s what people said about Acheron….
to be completely fair though, Acheron still has room for improvement (a sustain unit that can proactively and reliably apply debuffs, and another Nihility unit, may or may not be Fugue).
I have been pretty consistently using Quid Pro Quo Gallagher with Firefly to get back into ult in 1 skill. That lc is very good if you can manipulate the other characters' energy to force the procs into Firefly and have the lv10 skill - you only need to get 96 energy then, which is surprisingly achievable
It sucks for me that they chose firefly to overload with usefulness...because I don't really care for her that much. I'm not a big fan of the mech suit thing, it's a little upsetting that you only see firefly (beyond her face) in the overworld, when she has such a lovely design. I'm also not a big fan of break teams, either. So all in all, FF goes over my head and I can only hope they do another megahyped unit in 3.0 with a busted kit that I actually really enjoy.
I agree, about the whole mech-suit aspect not being that interesting. However, I have to say that her being "un-suted" in world is actually really cool - Especially with the design of her tech. It strikes me that is like she just jet-packs herself into the air, and then comes crashing down into the enemy like Tony Stark (complete with "superhero landing" pose. I mean; admit it, that is just cool.
Conversely, I do find super-break one of my two preferred archetypes, however. So I am probably more inclined to grant her grace than you would be, simply due to her suiting my play-style specifically.
This, especially since they made Boothill so clunky and hard to play just before her
@@danelmore6553 and that's totally fair, FF has an appeal to a lot of people clearly. I just wish other characters got the same kind of love. RM has always been my favorite and I'm glad to see her coming back into the zeitgeist, at least. I plan on using Fugue in a lot of scenarios, mostly my acheron engine and possibly boothill.
I don’t think she got a bad deal.
You can look at Firefly’s panties in the overworld if you’re running and looking down, which is exactly what her fans pulled her for.
Not to mention basically all you see with SAM in combat is Firefly’s face cut-in.
@@aquasis995 please go outside
I was so hyped for her,she has such a cool story and look,and im so glad i managed to get her with and her weapon without to many pulls,being free too play kinda sucks sometimes,but way more rewarding when it works out.
I am free to play too. I started playing like 2 days ago and this girl seems broken. When is her re run or should I save for someone else?
@ i dont know when shes back but she’s definitely a great character,it helps that the main character has a version that i believe you can get early,harmony trailblazer who is her best support currently so its easier to make her good.
I’m a new player but honestly I don’t want to pull for her
Good choice tbh new type of gameplay coming soon
Good. Rerun characters are not recommended for new players
@@anwarshadaad1553 it’s not really a meta thing tbh I just don’t enjoy her gameplay much. I used my guarantee on Aventurine and he was my first limited 5 star but I’ve wanted to pull for Acheron as well despite all the cons.
@@ameirgrant6116 forget about the cons, the important thing with Acheron is you save time by having her oneshotting overworld and simulated universe mobs with her technique. Minmax players are caught up in rhetoric engagement regarding gameplay and such is the fate of popular games where one could go to the general/vaguest opinions to heat up arguments and drive discussions into nonsensical territory.
I downloaded the game after seeing the gameplay leaks of Firefly because I really wanted to play as a big mech, and I was able to save at least 30k jades. Won the 50/50 at ~80 pity and got double gold (I can’t believe this happened on my first banner while it’s never happened to me on genshin). Decided to get Ruan Mei with my guaranteed (best decision ever) since people said she was her best support, also got her at ~80 pity.
Then during a run of SU I got the blue cheese curio and realized how useful her E1 was for sp management, so I decided to try and get it: won the 50/50, also at ~80 pity (I have concluded from the few times I’ve pulled that it’s either high pity or double gold). I’m tempted to go for her E2 on rerun but I don’t wanna spend too many jades, since I’m going for Sunday and there’s other characters I’m saving for.
for me firefly was fun to play for some time but whem i got rappa on my account i only use firefly whem i actually need to use her, every other times i use rappa as my breake dps, i still love firefly with all my heart but rappa feels more fun play.
Unfortunately she is now fraudfly
firefly having 0 turn downtime is possible due ro quid pro quo batterying her ult while she is in ult
I will point out that, while Firefly's kit is designed to be very complex, it's not actually all THAT strong. She's absolutely a top tier unit for now, standing at the top of the totem pole alongside Feixaio and Acheron, but she is far from infallible. At the end of the day, most of the words that make up her kit are dedicated to enabling her to do damage consistently. Her actual damage, which comes from skilling her ult state, is pretty easy to see getting power crept by the next Break unit Hoyo tries to sell.
Remember, we already have one character that directly competes with her in the form of Boothill. While the general community consensus is that Firefly is superior to Boothill in most game modes, he represents the fact that her kit isn't the end all be all of the break concept, especially considering his BiS team is still using BRONYA, of all units. Give him an advance forward unit that does literally anything to assist the Break strategy and suddenly a unit that released before her is liable to overtake her.
I think the way this scales out of it may be super break supports helping her bridge the gap. While she may eventually be surpassed by other archetypes, I don't realistically ever see her becoming "bad" unless superbreak itself falls of HARD. She has the same benefit Feixao has where her whole team deals damage, and given how many superbreak supports are fire, I think its unlikely she will be easily powercrept unless hoyo directly designs a character to powercreep her. Which in that case could lead to unexpected consequences like Dual DPS Firefly, providing evtra fire implants
Most players are casual and when it comes to ease of use firefly just way better
When it comes to damage ceiling, I definitely think boothill is definitely better but that requires you to play pretty perfect
If they release a break advancer then that unit can also be used with ff + ff team is still using sustain while most of the bh faster clears involves using sustainless on his team so this is not a problem at all
@@kyrogamingvt9716word for word
She's countered hard by anything that can lock it's toughness bar.
5 seconds in and I am already baited, using a reddit sub and a popularity poll as examples to prove something is just a small drop in the ocean, I could only speculate in such matters when there are many pieces at play. It only served as a driving force for conversation and engagement.
The crumbs of her kit during the 1.x phase suggest that she is more of a Bruiser type of character (like Blade), but I guess they see Blade and decided to never do it again (and probably because having 2 characters with similar archetype being from the same faction doesn’t sound like a good idea)
Firefly Skill Reducing her HP server to trigger Lingsha's talent, Hoyo cant fool me
Holy glaze lol
I am actually still surprised most people still haven't realized that she has a unique weakness break effect animation compared to every other character in the game.
You forgor us sunday mains 😞
Yeah, bruh.
Guess Im gonna have to learn to love this character
No joke, I tried out HSR roughly when it launched, dropped it as I lost interest, and came BACK just to pull on Firefly. I knew nothing about her gameplay at the time, I'm just a huge sucker for Tokusatsu that, you give me any kind of player character that can Henshin into a robot and i'm DOWN. I have since caught up in HSR and gotten a bit further into the 'meta' and don't use Firefly as much mostly just for variety sake and trying out other characters/teams.
She got double the hype because she was 2 characters, she's awesome.
The king of gameplay analysis has returned bois
There will always be another character that will surpass previous ones and power creep them eventually.
Blud forgot that without a super break support she is straight up ass. All 3 break dps have a shitty thing in their kits, but this one is by far the worst imo.
who wouldn't run hmc with firefly?
only speds run ff w/o hmc or fugue lmao
@@zxcentsensei.sunderGuess I’m a sped then
That's like saying feixao sucks without any FUA support or Acheron sucks without any nihility units. Its a team game
@@Poppipowerhow the hell do you not have hmc when they are free
Do you even know anything about hsr team building? Clearly not.
I never really liked her in the story, and i pulled for her character banner because of how absurd her kit was at E0S0.
Since i pulled E0S1 Rappa i haven't used her since. She might not be as good but she sure feels a lot more fun to play around with.
My caefly girl is an absolute cinema
What a beautiful comment
She has so many mechanics in her kit that even in a "non favorable" moc she should be able to clear with her best team but the devs keep catering endgame to her kit so much it's ruined the endgame for other characters. Also because of the recent avg enemy health buff in the recent endgame modes it's becoming really hard to clear with older characters, so to hell with pulling for units you actually like ig
tbh even with an extremely good kit she's no longer the best dps in the game for a while since feixiao dropped, heck, even rappa (in aoe) and boothill (in st) are giving her a run. and as fugue isnt that much of an upgrade for FF as she is for the other break dps'es plus new remembrance meta coming, she's getting behind now. the powercreep in hsr can be brutal sometimes
be fr bro
feixiao top dps? said the same when jingliu and acheron dropped lmaooo
rappa can't do shit if enemies aren't imaginary, most likely to drag 4 cycles below
boothill's usage are non existent in pf so what a waste of stellar jades
Unlike ff, she's all in one, every content you slap unto her table, she eats it
for an e0s0 character, its better to get ff and hoard as much as jades as you want rather than pulling niche characters
e2 ff is by far also one of the best eidolons in the game in regards to cost value
@entsensei feixiao humiliates FF in moc and as, even in pf she's doing more points than ff and shes a hunt unit bruh 💀
@@zxcentsensei.sunder Feixiao is an absolute monster and can brute force anything right now. She doesn't *need* her premium team and she is overkilling with them. Her clear times clear everybody and she's even showing to be a monster in Pure Fiction.
@@LuizFernando-he8mc nigga that's just robin showcase LMAO
crit dps can't be compared to break dps since these are only two different types of archetypes in dmg
if you wanna compare a crit dps, compare it to crit
otherwise in lower cost, break teams scores higher
feixiao would eventually get powercrept in 3.0+ after new crit dps comes out lmaoaoao
@@zxcentsensei.sunder 😂
I love Firefly & she's still one of my favorite char in HSR along with Acheron & Feixiao...but all 3 off them were already slightly powercrept by Rappa who ults easily like Firefly, but she deals 300k to 500k dmg to all 5 enemies unlike Firefly who only deals dmg to 3 targets.
As far as her damage goes, we have much better options (her floor is low but so is her ceiling. We are at her ceiling now)
But as far as everything else goes, she is super comfy. i will be using New MC path because I’m a stelle and March fan girl and I love our starter pokemon 😂 but my e2 firefly can hang out with himeko in pure fiction if I ever need additional fire break. She is pretty flexible if you don’t want to run her as superbreak just don’t expect much damage out of her, just utility… and honestly she’s quite tanky like how does she have more base def than aventurine hahah
I feel like I won the lottery that I installed this game for FF and then got a double of her in soft pity. E1 Firefly had me cruising through every piece of content until that recent Hoolay story boss.
I’m not a fan of Firefly’s Kit myself
Maybe it’s just I don’t care for overly broken dps unless they’re like my favorite character in the whole game 😭🤚
Also because Firefly mains are…really annoying😭
I’d rather just gravitate to characters like Rappa, Xueyi, or Boothill or even Himeko instead
I love Firefly, but I’ll probably never pull her.
WAIT FIREFLY IS PLAYABLE??
I legit stopped playing when she fucking died because I loved her so much I was just done lmao
I might just get back into Star Rail if I can get her
Well good for you there have been leaks that she will be rerun in the 2nd half of 2.7 the next version so if you start playing now you should be able to get her.
Holy f the amount of glaze fireflop gets in the casual community is unreal. The girl cant even 0c her own moc boss better than other units and is literally one if the worst dps units to ever exist in terms of 0c content, yet the casuals praise her like shes the 2nd robin lmao.
Fr the casual community are braindead asf that they start praising fireflop better than feixiao
I started playing because i liked her design so much. No regrets, 10/10
Firefly is the perfect storm of a character, lots of buildup in the story, good character development, the first and so far best in her archetype and can basically make her own niche happen compared to other dps who sometimes need a perfect team to work like the follow up team. It helps that Firefly got the free buffer of Harmony MC shortly after, and if leaks are correct then Fugue will also increase the Firefly stocks.
Good character development. Yeah, right.🤡
@@phrinusto be fair it isn't complete yet
since she's a stellaron hunter, we can see her most often throughout the story
nigga really judged a book by its cover
@@zxcentsensei.sunder Sunday wasn't even playable, and look at his writing. Shaoji has no excuse for making her so incredibly mediocre.
@@phrinuslol fym? sunday is a regional character where as ff can be progressive through out the story
ff is based from shaoji's gf, that's bold of you assuming things you don't know
@@phrinus The way I see it, she went from SAM mentioned by the Stelleron Hunters who is a brutal war criminal, to Firefly the Penacony guide, to SAM the boss, to the twist reveal and finally to Firefly the canon Girlfriend. It also helps that the hunters are likely to keep popping up because they seem to run parallel to the express's story. Good development to me, at least compared to someone like Seele who we haven't seen in like a year now.
I've discussed who I think is stronger between acharon, firefly, and feixiao with a few of my friends that all play, and we've decided that overall feixaio is probably the strongest unit. She has strict team requirement setups, kind of like Firefly, but her damage is just so astronomically high and her team's syergy is so good that it outweighs almost any negatives. She has. Mind you, her e2 is probably even more powerful than firefly E2 which is saying something
Personally, I don't like firefly...I don't understand why she was trying to attack us in penacony, and was talking to "someone" but they never explain who...I think it's kinda made clear that they are the same person after 2.1 so...
I hope they elaborate on this a bit further next time she shiws up in the story. In her trailer it also shows SAM somewhat as a separate entity. Could be interesting either as a bit of a split personality thing or maybe the suit has some sort of AI built in. I definitely think her story is far from over so hopefully she shows up with the rest of the Stellaron Hunters in the future.
@kyrogamingvt9716 the game is terrible, theyve set up to many plot points that are never going to be explained, and seeing the future content, never going to happen, were doomed,
@@thagrizz5497 If it is important enough it will be covered later on. A character arc does not have to start and end all in a single sequence.
Hell take Elio for example. Know very little, but keep getting bits of info here and there.
@@TOTGodofWar it shouldn't be a year to find out either
@@thagrizz5497 Then stop playing Mihoyo games all together. Kiana's story arc took place across like 5 years for example. Genshin's Traveler arc gets expanded on toward the end of each major region story arc.
I just hope Aglaea will be a good character, not easy but good if you are optimal with her (without need of eidolones or LC)
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