If u have the midi scale super star destroyer, there’s actually an alternate build on rebrickable for a Venator, I built it a few weeks ago, and apart from a the front and having no colour, it looks amazing
@@LeetleToady7 Were you able to find the instructions? If not, I can point to the one I used. ✌️ Edit: The Brick Emperor Studio TH-cam channel has a video, and link to instructions. Enjoy!
tbf you can say the same about anything from lego. Why spend $500 for a big lego set when you can buy a phone? but regardless, they're decent enough to warrant me not caring about the price anymore
100% agree, that each set needed a "unique" minifigure. This would have really excited the community. That being said, I bought them all anyway. Love the display options.
Honestly, if adding a minfigure adds another $5 to the price (which I suspect it would), I really wouldn't want it. Side note: that last shot with all 5 midi ships together is gorgeous!
You may be Falcon’d out - but for those of us who have never had the money to pull the trigger on a bigger Lego Falcon, this version of the Falcon was almost an instabuy for me. Excellent review!
You hit the nail on the head. There are so many other Lego sets out there that sometimes you just can't go too big. This Falcon is the perfect in between. I still would like to get the 75192, but it's still just a dream at the moment.
That’s right brother, the UCS series are outrageously big and also not economically sense for me if I need to spend hundreds of dollars for just one Lego set.
I think they are awesome. And everyone gets it wrong, the Tantive's head is just the right size. I would love to see a Venator, an MC75 and a re-release of the base Star Destroyer in this form. Edit: Thank you guys for 200 likes! Also I know, it LOOKS awkward, but compared to the OT version of the ship (Not rebels, not ROTS,), Its maybe only a few milimeters off.
It looks awkward, but it does in universe too, just not from the front shots. Anyway I wont argue, if its small its small, probably we won't buy it, and not just for that. @napkinx4341
@@darthcroco idk i have heard this argument but i looked at images of it in other shows and media and it looks fine the head on the mini lego version is just off to me
You could argue the same about helmet collection - why didn't they include a figure there if each helmet is linked to a specific character? I am a person who doesn't care as much about minifigs - I prefer the builds. And if that series meant bumping the price for another $5-$10 only to include the minifig - hard pass. Not every set has to have a minifig. On another topic - I will not stop saying that: why are your videos so silent?
I think the point being made here though, is that at the price point they are already marketing them at, they should have a figure. Plus, if you don't care for the minifigures, it's perfect - a lot of people specifically want them. Selling them on recoups a lot more of your money than you would save by not having them at all.
I totally agree. Way too many of these TH-camrs are obsessed with minifigures and just need them in every set. I like them too but not every set needs them. Sets like these are meant as display items for adult collectors to put on a shelf or a desk. They don't need figures to go with them
same bro same, the thing is, there is so many sets to be made but half of the sets that are indeed made are just overpriced dust collectors, I'm honestly glad the helmet line is gone, Andor only got one set, ashoka only got 3 sets and that's a problem because the way lego works is making sets only when these shows come out so we sadly wont have any new sets about all of these "'"retired"" shows
I blame disney for trying to tackle the "whales" of the LEGO market as they do with everything; cruise ships, theme parks, etc. They only go after the big money and ignore families/children for the most part I find. @@svenoualpha9673
@@joevictor53 did you read my comment ? yeah there are still some playsets but not enough that's what im saying, so yeah we can choose to not buy those, that's already what we're doing but that's not the point, the more lego makes "adults" sets the less we get actual playsets, anyway, just go read my first comment i'm not going to repeat what I said
I absolutely love the idea of midi-scale being brought back, but am i the only one who finds it sus that they've changed the name of the line? "Starship Collection" by default excludes ground vehicles, limiting options for future sets... or at least it sounds like it.
What name do you think would've been best? I'm genuinely curious. We've got a midiscale helicarrier coming as well so that might have a different name for the line
Hard disagree on the minifigure situation. Yes, there was the Planet Sets line, and I love them dearly, but those felt more like they were geared towards kids with the option for display for older demographics. A fun mini model that wasn't difficult to build, a character to go on adventures with, planets to pretend you're taking the ship out of hyperspace and ready to land, or if you so chose, you could turn them into Christmas Tree ornaments. And while there were a few exclusive minifigures across the whole line, they weren't treated as being super special must haves, they were there for kids to populate their armies or give someone else a chance to pilot a ship if they had the larger playset version. Adding a minifigure to these display pieces feels more like a gimmick to get people to buy a set they otherwise wouldn't, as if the models can't stand on their own merits. This is also why I feel like UCS sets need don't minifigures. The sheer size and detail on the model is the statement. A display piece should be able to speak for itself and only include minifigures if it is in fact minifigure scaled to show off that particular aspect of the model's scale. Now don't get me wrong, I will always be appreciative to receive minifigures even though I don't feel they are warranted, I love my UCS Landspeeder with a C-3PO that has a dual molded leg so that the print of his silver leg doesn't just cut off at the knee (why even print that detail at that point?), but you're also just as likely to get a situation that occurred with the UCS Gunship where, while the minifigures are impressive, are not the ones people were asking for and really didn't quite fit with the ship either. The market is also flooded with overpriced minifigures that are exclusive to sets, and all because they added one detail that wasn't there before, it's ridiculous. I want that Invisible Hand because it's never been made before, and will make for an excellent addition to my Invasion of Coruscant display, not because it came with Grievous with an exclusive cape or a remake of Count Dooku (even if it has been 10 years since he last appeared). I already own the original Midi Falcon, and while this new one looks great, I feel no pressure or desire to buy it because it comes with Han wearing his gloves from A New Hope, or has some other new detail LEGO would inevitably add to him to give some kind of rarity to the set. Folks are too focused on minifigures, and while I would be lying that they have never influenced my decision to pick up a set, Star Wars is not Marvel where people would likely buy a set because a particular hero has finally been made in minifigure form with the rest of the set, as good or bad as it may be, being superfluous, the ships and locations in Star Wars are just as iconic and recognizable as the characters, some even more so, and they can hold their own, on their own. I'll still happily receive minifigures, but also say that if the Invisible Hand included Grievous and/or Dooku, I wouldn't be surprised at a $10 price hike, which can very easily make a set too much for me when my real attention is on a ship they can't even fit in or I can't really use elsewhere in my collection. I'm not one to buy and sell figures free of sets, it's all or nothing, which I'm sure is really stupid to some people, but superfluous minifigures is also how you get things like Fives and Malak in sets that don't even relate to them, and they're going to be very expensive in the aftermarket. If you don't think the same would happen, even with appropriately themed figures in these Starship Collection sets, you don't know just how nuts things can get.
Wholeheartly agree! I want these sets for the build, not a slapped on minifigure. People feel too mini figure crazy tbh, the builds are the heart and soul of lego
Printed vs. sticker elements will simply come down to forecast sales numbers - the Falcon is forecast to sell more (long term), so they allow more budget for its production. Don't care about the figures other than General Grievous because I don't have him - have multiple of every other characters (can't even estimate how many Darth Vader figures I have at this point!) so I can put them on if I want to - but I find that figures on display sets actually detract from the display aesthetics. Most mini-figures are not actually that great to look at - they are after all designed primarily for kids to play with - whereas the display sets are not for play. For me, any figures I get in a set invariably just end up in a big box with all my other figures.
Think the acclamator would be more ideal at this scale and would pair nicely in scale with the UCS Venator. But a venator at midi would be nice as well.
the capital ships that are released with this lineup is a big win, ships like the Executor or the Invisible Hand are the exact reasons why this is going to sell. I'd love figures for it as well, but I also have figures of my own so I can't really complain (The Boba Fett from the mech + his pauldron from bricklink along with Vader really makes the SSD something else)
These prices are outrageous. I’m confident what LEGO increased their prices by 20% just so that after a year they can sell the sets at regular price (‘20% discount’) and have a large profit in between selling to people who don’t mind the higher price.
The only way I’ll get the Invisible Hand is if they release a Venator or an Acclamator. Then I’ll do the Star destroyer coming out and I’ll track down the Tantive IV unless they do the Home One. I need to have like a “versus” or a ship from each faction otherwise my OCD would murder me.
They are great looking sets, but I just can't bear myself to pay for example 85,00 for the midi scale falcon, when that same money can get you a cool play-scale set with a couple of minifigs. The point made in the video about including a minifig is actually a very good one, and to me it would probably go a long way in getting me to buy these. If you only collect Star Wars then this is probably not a big issue, but if you collect other themes like Marvel/Harry Potter/Ideas/Icons like me as well, it just become really hard to justify paying this money when there are too many great alternatives in an already rapidly growing line-up of sets.
I'm not really seeing a reason why a fig needs to be included. Yes it would be nice as if it were a ucs set. But then the scalper problem would arise. They'd be opened, the figs ripped out and then resold separately. Let's not forget that Lego would be charging the customer even more foe the sets. It's wishful thinking to think the sets would stay the same price. The falcon and tantive are already overpriced. The issue that I have is stickers. They should not be putting stickers in sets valued and sold at over $50 in my opinion, it feels lazy and scammy. No other midi scale set has ever had a figure go with it
There’s ways too many Lego Starwars TH-camr who are obsessed with minifigs. I’d take less stickers and more prints over minifigs for this line of collectibles ships. Besides that they are aiming for a mature audience and are trying to reach out to more than just hardcore Lego Starwars enthusiasts collectors. Most non-enthusiasts don’t care about minifigs.
These ships all look excellent. I'm definitely going to pick up one or two of them in the future. I'd love to see them do midi-scales of the Death Star, Home One, The First Order Star Destroyer, The Venator-Class Cruiser (So I won't need to pay $500). Poe's X-Wing...Starkiller Base maybe? And maybe the Trade Federation Control ship!
I truly do not care about minifigures in these. They’re not scaled with minifigures in mind at all, and the whole point of sets in this scale is to provide an interesting building experience at a more affordable price. Including minifigures would most definitely bump the price of each of these sets up at least another $5 and I don’t see the point for just having the guy who owns the ship standing next to it
I’m interested to see what all will go in this line. I feel like there’s a risk of running out of mid to capital ships quickly and some are hard to translate to LEGO (Queen’s Starship and anything of Mon Calamari design for instance). Although Jabba’s sail barge and Dryden Vos’ Ship would look good at this scale
All of the designs are great, it is good that Falcon has printed bricks, inclusion of stickers in the other 2 is just infuriating. Printed bricks are important, especially for details like the symbol of Confederacy of Independent Systems. I do not enjoy stickers in any LEGO sets, especially this kind! I do not need a minifig in this kind of set but it would be welcome addition considering the price. On the other not I would love if the series could settle on for example 2 or 3 levels of scale that way so You can set up some of the ships together(for example You could set up Tantive alongisde X-wing from a polybag). Then You could display them as a fleet or even recreate battle scenes!
Some can argue that LEGO is using the minifigure as the final straw/carrot to entice purchases of their expensive Collector's Edition sets. These midi-scale sets already have a lower-price as the carrot.
I think the reason that the Falcon gets printed pieces and more value, is probably because Lego expects it to sell significantly higher than the other starships. They probably assume that a lot of people will buy the falcon without collecting the whole collection. The Tantiv on the other hand is probably only going to be bought by superfans and collection completitionists. It's probably not unreasonable that the Falcon sells 5:1 of the Tantiv. I'm not defending their choice, just explaining the likely reasoning. I honestly think these are all overpriced and will probably not buy any of them.
I thought these sets were pretty cool initially but ouch, the price tag for these are nuts. You'd get more value for money buying an actual UCS set despite them being far higher in price. Smaller sets like these are awesome and I really want to see more, but it baffles me as to why they're so expensive.
I’m totally fine that minifigs aren’t included. I think they’re really trying to court the collector that’s not interested in cuteness and more interested in accuracy.
Doesn’t need a figure. Figure can’t even fit in the vehicle, so no point. They only put them in the sets like the UCS Star Destroyer because people would whine if they didn’t.
I think LEGO is finally waking up and realizing the want that fans have for the prequel era. They've released an AT-TE, Corasaunt Guard Gunship, 3 clone battle packs(including the super battle pack), the midi invisible hand(which needs to have a UCS version) and a UCS Venator
I loved the planet series back then still have all 12 sets on display. However while these midi scale ships are beautiful, the lack of a minifigure and the usage of stickers can't justify the price.
I know they’re more expensive for the size of ship you’re getting, but for me the detail makes up for it. For me, these sets are perfect, exactly what I want in a display model series
I don't get the obsession with minifigs. If i can't put it in the ship then why include it? Same goes for sets where they include 4 minifigs with a ship that seats 2. I feel like the extra minifigs are just an excuse to jack up the price.
Honestly, I don't need ANOTHER Darth Vader, Han, Chewbacca etc. I am fine without a minifig. Let the set be just purely about the build and design. Not another Venator disaster where minifig fanatics are buying the set and parting it out (or worse) just to scalp the minifigs. The real problem with these sets are that they're asking for nearly a $100 for a Millennium Falcon model the same size as a $30 or $40 set, with stickers instead of prints, the plastic cost DOES NOT add up. I would be absolutely shocked if they cost to produce any of these in the starship collection is more than half of their MSRP. I love the designs and concept and will absolutely grab one when they come out with one of my favorite ships.
@@Akhen. People forcing themselves to buy something big they don't really want just to get something tiny they do want...... If the total price wasn't too high, I would be a little more understanding, but in cases like these ships and the helmets, you'd be spending 70-80 dollars for just a minifigure..... Just let that sink in for a second.
I honestly disagree about the minifigs. I’ve gotten to the point where, if not having a minifig means spending as much as 10 or 15 dollars less, and I still get a beautiful starship to display on a shelf with proper proportions for a reasonable price, that’s a steal. This is a golden age for Lego, as they’re finding ways to appeal to everyone, including people like me (I assume I’m not alone in my position of loving Lego, wanting beautiful “legos for adults” models, but not wanting to spend too much per set). I used have a much larger collection than I do now, and I used to have a mentality that would’ve demanded for at least one minifig per set, so I understand the desire for more, but I’m not sure Lego is appealing to that mentality here, and for that I’m actually grateful
@@BrickTemplar yes but if Lego actually put minifigs into these sets, in all sensibility, the prices would go up. This sort of pricing isn’t unique to these sets. Any Lego set would cost these prices for these number of pieces and high build quality, and any Lego set would get marked up to cost more if Lego put in minifigs. I agree legos are expensive, but that’s another conversation entirely
I agree needs a figure for each one or even 2. I love Lego and in cost of living times want excellent value for money. Come on Lego do your bit for the fans and give us want we want so we can afford it!! Lego got my through covid 19 with my mental health.
adding a minifig would just bump up the price even more, especially if it was a unique/rare minifig the comparison to the planet series is just silly. Those were very kid orientated. These are aimed at the adult market And when do "a few years ago" equal over a decade ago?
I totally agree with you and the fact these sets don’t come with a minifig or pair in the case of the Millennium Falcon (given the price) it’s a pass for me.
I haven't been collecting Lego since I was a child with the original Star Wars line. But these sets brought me back, starting with the Tie Bomber and later Nebulon B Frigate. I picked up the Tantive IV and Executor as well, these are perfect scale for shelf display. On my radar are The Invisible Hand, and the tantive IV hallway. I've always wanted Rebel fleet troopers since I was a kid, and displaying one of them on the stand of the Tantive IV starship would be perfect.
Really hoping they eventually make a UCS invisible hand that's to scale of the venator.. Would love to see them side by side on display since I'm much more into the prequel ships over flat grey designs of things like the ATAT, death star, star destroyer, etc.
With three ships, they should have done one per trilogy. The Invisible Hand is great for the prequels, Tantive IV is ok for the OT, but why yet another Falcon? Why not the Supremacy (Snoke's ship) or The Raddus from The Last Jedi? Also, wouldn't something like Home One be better for the OT than the Tantive IV?
I've been wanting midiscale ships for years but the prices are way too much. I'll be holding off until they go on sale. I think £50-60 would be perfect for this line. Hard disagree about minifigures. Not everything needs to have minifigures despite some Lego fans thinking they're the most important thing that needs to be everywhere. Lego did not make a "mistake" by not including them. They don't fit with the set and including them would've been the real mistake
The main bridge on the Corvette is supposed to be that little black square?? Stickers for the Docking Ports but not the Main Bridge?? Just doesn't make sense. Just the stickers on the set made it a pass until Clearance, maybe.
I just use my existing figs, Han for my Falcon, Vader for my executor, etc. My friends buy cheap off-hand figs because *it's on a shelf, you won't see it up close anyway*
Do you usually get a comment from the Lego SW team when you reach out? The Lego SW team seems to have serious minifig phobia with the skimping in sets and then the low level of care for CW and prequel figs
The only thing that I liked about the Starship Collection is the Super Star Destroyer, the one it came out last year of 2023 with the 40th anniversary of The Return of the Jedi film.
The head of the Tantive does look like it might be a hair too small, but the next size up i think may rnd up being too big. Definitely agree, they should be coming with mini figs.
The real problem is the different scale. At least MF is way too big compared to the others. That said I really do understand that even in this scale for example death star would still be massive in size and price.
It also kinda sucks that they called it the "Starship" collection, because now they can only do starships, and certain things are now restricted from being made as they are not starships, such as maybe an AT-AT or an AT-TE
You perfectly summed up everything I love and dislike about these sets!!! So much so that I bought my own extra Minifigures to go with the sets bc I’m a collector and I wanted it to look good. Honestly it looks amazing with the Minifigures added
Lego creator's thumbnail: this set is AWFUL, Lego DROPPED THE BALL, i am DISAPPOINTED😡 ! Actual review : the set is really great you guys, one of the best builds Lego has put out in years actually 😃. BUT IT HAS NO MINIFIGS UNSUBSCRIBE THIS IS A BIGGER SCAM THAN NFT'S LEGO BURN IN HELL 😡😡😡 IDK man, can someone explain the minigig hype to me ? I've been a lego and lego star wars fan since i was a kid and i never understood why everyone seems to be frothing at the mouth about minifigures when they're the least interesting aspect of the Lego system to me, i get the appeal for dioramas and playsets i guess, but for display pieces like this having minifigs half the size of the ship right by them kinda makes it all look goofy and loses a lot of the sleek design of the stands and ships, and completely kills the sense of scale they have
PREACH Bro!! These are Good, but the Price Point is not going to sell these, I love the Executor, but waiting for 50 Clearance at Walmart, its coming!! LOL As the Shelves are packed any time I'm there. Lets not get it Confused folks, the Dioramas and the Helmets were WAAAy Better sets for the Money. Lego Greed here, pourely thought out, agree 100 We should have had 2 Figs Each Set Limited edition Special Prints never been created , THEN these are Banger sets and sell at that point. Sadly these are way off the Mark at 80Plus, they would barely sell for 50? Perhaps I'm wrong? See ya in the Clearance isles where I'll be picking mine copies up, not before and certainly not at Retail. Sorry LEGO, Ya Missed what the fans Clearly want here and for the Life of me I will NEVER EVER undersatnd whose Running Star Wars Line up. Can We Please replace them and get someone else who will listen to the Fans and stop getting so Greedy on the Cost Cost of Sets and Jacking up Battle Packs that should be 20 Dollars. The Great Crash is Coming and it time to find better ways toi produce sets that are going to sell VOLUME and not sets that will barely make market selling OP Pricing, Volume Pricing always wins the Day. Do Better, work harder at listening to the Audience you are taking advantage of SOON, Else we will go someplace else with our MONEY ...simple as that. Theres something called a breaking point and LEGO! Youre Beyond it with these Sets, just saying
David: "I've noticed one glaring issue that seem so obvious" Me while watching the first 2/3: "Please for the love of bricks don't let the GLARING ISSUE be the lack of a separate collectible item that would drive up the price unnecessarily and can't meaningfully interact with the ship because they're at vastly different scales..." David: "...not including a minifigure." Me: "siiiiighhhhhhhhhhh." It's not a "GLARING ISSUE," it's definitely not a "GIANT MISTAKE." Enough with the hyperbole. Minifigs would be nice to have, but if you seriously think their omission is a major issue then you've somehow missed the point entirely. They're a garnish, not the meal.
It would be so cool to see a midscale Venator.
If u have the midi scale super star destroyer, there’s actually an alternate build on rebrickable for a Venator, I built it a few weeks ago, and apart from a the front and having no colour, it looks amazing
Just baught one from Mould King, over 1200 pieces. And it’s cheaper than Lego
@@glob2goWhere can you find the instructions?
@@glob2go
I built the alternate Venator and yes, it is awesome.
@@LeetleToady7
Were you able to find the instructions? If not, I can point to the one I used. ✌️
Edit: The Brick Emperor Studio TH-cam channel has a video, and link to instructions. Enjoy!
The prices are honestly outrageous for a mini starship
get your money up broke boy
@@rikothepenguinyes very mature argument ☠
@@rikothepenguin Not how it works bro 💀
tbf you can say the same about anything from lego. Why spend $500 for a big lego set when you can buy a phone?
but regardless, they're decent enough to warrant me not caring about the price anymore
They aren't mini scale they are midi scale
100% agree, that each set needed a "unique" minifigure. This would have really excited the community. That being said, I bought them all anyway. Love the display options.
The prices are out of control. These should be 40-50 MAX. Lego's pricing is the main reason I'm getting out of Lego.
And they still put stickers for those prices
The Millennium Falcon costs less than $0.10 per piece. That's a good deal, especially for an IP set.
50 max lol your tripping. do you know the IP itself costs money and thats why they bump prices. if you want good deals buy lego original stuff.
This isn’t 2003, there’s actual detail on these.
@@GingeryGingeryeah, stickers.
That Falcon is honestly stunning. Great display piece.
you mean large gaps for a small ship
it doesnt have large gaps if you think so you are just weird xD@@mreggs3731
@@mreggs3731not even that big, i can barely notice them where i have it displayed, its a really good build and i enjoyed it
Honestly, if adding a minfigure adds another $5 to the price (which I suspect it would), I really wouldn't want it. Side note: that last shot with all 5 midi ships together is gorgeous!
It wouldn’t tho. It doesn’t cost any more than dollar for a minifig
You may be Falcon’d out - but for those of us who have never had the money to pull the trigger on a bigger Lego Falcon, this version of the Falcon was almost an instabuy for me. Excellent review!
You hit the nail on the head. There are so many other Lego sets out there that sometimes you just can't go too big. This Falcon is the perfect in between. I still would like to get the 75192, but it's still just a dream at the moment.
That’s right brother, the UCS series are outrageously big and also not economically sense for me if I need to spend hundreds of dollars for just one Lego set.
As a starship enthusiast the Tantive IV and the Invisible Hand are a must buy only… in a year when the price drops 😂
or they go out of production and they suddenly cost 100$+ xS
Ships is better than helmets for sure.
For me the one missing thing is them all being to scale to each other
How would that work? The Invisible would need to be as big as a small car compared to the Falcon.
@@robinwhghe just means like similar sized ships, example the falcon and maybe the slave one for a wave etc…
@@mrtoto9749i think in general the larger capitol ships make more sense for midi scale desings.
But then you would never be able to do the Invisible Hand.@@mrtoto9749
@@M0torsagmannen yeah I definitely agree with you, was just giving an example
I think they are awesome. And everyone gets it wrong, the Tantive's head is just the right size. I would love to see a Venator, an MC75 and a re-release of the base Star Destroyer in this form.
Edit: Thank you guys for 200 likes! Also I know, it LOOKS awkward, but compared to the OT version of the ship (Not rebels, not ROTS,), Its maybe only a few milimeters off.
Naw.
nah it throws me off it’s too small and awkward
It’s definitely a little too smalll
It looks awkward, but it does in universe too, just not from the front shots. Anyway I wont argue, if its small its small, probably we won't buy it, and not just for that. @napkinx4341
@@darthcroco idk i have heard this argument but i looked at images of it in other shows and media and it looks fine the head on the mini lego version is just off to me
I love that we got the midi scale back
You could argue the same about helmet collection - why didn't they include a figure there if each helmet is linked to a specific character?
I am a person who doesn't care as much about minifigs - I prefer the builds. And if that series meant bumping the price for another $5-$10 only to include the minifig - hard pass. Not every set has to have a minifig.
On another topic - I will not stop saying that: why are your videos so silent?
I like it, I hate when youtubers have annoying intros and background music
I think the point being made here though, is that at the price point they are already marketing them at, they should have a figure. Plus, if you don't care for the minifigures, it's perfect - a lot of people specifically want them. Selling them on recoups a lot more of your money than you would save by not having them at all.
I totally agree. Way too many of these TH-camrs are obsessed with minifigures and just need them in every set. I like them too but not every set needs them. Sets like these are meant as display items for adult collectors to put on a shelf or a desk. They don't need figures to go with them
Why is the executor set "infamous"? I thought everyone liked it...
He frequently misuses words
@@berengerchristy6256not the answer i expected haha
@@berengerchristy6256He probably uses big words just so that people will think he's photosynthesis.
I thought the same thing 😂 didn't know there was star destroyer controversy
He's probably acoustic or some such.
The Invisible Hand splitting in half is amazing
Im tired of "lego for adults" - I liked lego because they were cool playsets, not because they were dumb desk decorations
This. 100% how I feel.
same bro same, the thing is, there is so many sets to be made but half of the sets that are indeed made are just overpriced dust collectors, I'm honestly glad the helmet line is gone, Andor only got one set, ashoka only got 3 sets and that's a problem because the way lego works is making sets only when these shows come out so we sadly wont have any new sets about all of these "'"retired"" shows
I blame disney for trying to tackle the "whales" of the LEGO market as they do with everything; cruise ships, theme parks, etc. They only go after the big money and ignore families/children for the most part I find. @@svenoualpha9673
It's almost like you can choose not to buy these and just buy the playsets that are still available.
@@joevictor53 did you read my comment ? yeah there are still some playsets but not enough that's what im saying, so yeah we can choose to not buy those, that's already what we're doing but that's not the point, the more lego makes "adults" sets the less we get actual playsets, anyway, just go read my first comment i'm not going to repeat what I said
I absolutely love the idea of midi-scale being brought back, but am i the only one who finds it sus that they've changed the name of the line? "Starship Collection" by default excludes ground vehicles, limiting options for future sets... or at least it sounds like it.
Absolutely. I would love to see a midi scale ATTE for example.
There’s potential for different “collections” in the scale
What name do you think would've been best? I'm genuinely curious. We've got a midiscale helicarrier coming as well so that might have a different name for the line
@@joevictor53 "midi-scale"
When David said "Even sequels sets like this" inmediatly came the Supremacy to my mind, would be awesome!
Or maybe the resurgence
Invisible Hand is cheaper than the other two so it will sell more. Waiting til May 4th to order them to get double points plus GWP
Hard disagree on the minifigure situation. Yes, there was the Planet Sets line, and I love them dearly, but those felt more like they were geared towards kids with the option for display for older demographics. A fun mini model that wasn't difficult to build, a character to go on adventures with, planets to pretend you're taking the ship out of hyperspace and ready to land, or if you so chose, you could turn them into Christmas Tree ornaments. And while there were a few exclusive minifigures across the whole line, they weren't treated as being super special must haves, they were there for kids to populate their armies or give someone else a chance to pilot a ship if they had the larger playset version.
Adding a minifigure to these display pieces feels more like a gimmick to get people to buy a set they otherwise wouldn't, as if the models can't stand on their own merits. This is also why I feel like UCS sets need don't minifigures. The sheer size and detail on the model is the statement. A display piece should be able to speak for itself and only include minifigures if it is in fact minifigure scaled to show off that particular aspect of the model's scale. Now don't get me wrong, I will always be appreciative to receive minifigures even though I don't feel they are warranted, I love my UCS Landspeeder with a C-3PO that has a dual molded leg so that the print of his silver leg doesn't just cut off at the knee (why even print that detail at that point?), but you're also just as likely to get a situation that occurred with the UCS Gunship where, while the minifigures are impressive, are not the ones people were asking for and really didn't quite fit with the ship either. The market is also flooded with overpriced minifigures that are exclusive to sets, and all because they added one detail that wasn't there before, it's ridiculous.
I want that Invisible Hand because it's never been made before, and will make for an excellent addition to my Invasion of Coruscant display, not because it came with Grievous with an exclusive cape or a remake of Count Dooku (even if it has been 10 years since he last appeared). I already own the original Midi Falcon, and while this new one looks great, I feel no pressure or desire to buy it because it comes with Han wearing his gloves from A New Hope, or has some other new detail LEGO would inevitably add to him to give some kind of rarity to the set. Folks are too focused on minifigures, and while I would be lying that they have never influenced my decision to pick up a set, Star Wars is not Marvel where people would likely buy a set because a particular hero has finally been made in minifigure form with the rest of the set, as good or bad as it may be, being superfluous, the ships and locations in Star Wars are just as iconic and recognizable as the characters, some even more so, and they can hold their own, on their own.
I'll still happily receive minifigures, but also say that if the Invisible Hand included Grievous and/or Dooku, I wouldn't be surprised at a $10 price hike, which can very easily make a set too much for me when my real attention is on a ship they can't even fit in or I can't really use elsewhere in my collection. I'm not one to buy and sell figures free of sets, it's all or nothing, which I'm sure is really stupid to some people, but superfluous minifigures is also how you get things like Fives and Malak in sets that don't even relate to them, and they're going to be very expensive in the aftermarket. If you don't think the same would happen, even with appropriately themed figures in these Starship Collection sets, you don't know just how nuts things can get.
Wholeheartly agree! I want these sets for the build, not a slapped on minifigure. People feel too mini figure crazy tbh, the builds are the heart and soul of lego
"No need to worry, we are still flying half a printed ship."
Don't worry, all the stickers are on this half of the ship
Printed vs. sticker elements will simply come down to forecast sales numbers - the Falcon is forecast to sell more (long term), so they allow more budget for its production. Don't care about the figures other than General Grievous because I don't have him - have multiple of every other characters (can't even estimate how many Darth Vader figures I have at this point!) so I can put them on if I want to - but I find that figures on display sets actually detract from the display aesthetics. Most mini-figures are not actually that great to look at - they are after all designed primarily for kids to play with - whereas the display sets are not for play. For me, any figures I get in a set invariably just end up in a big box with all my other figures.
I never thought lego would ever make a separatist battleship of any type, that’s sick
Mid-scale Venator or we riot.
Think the acclamator would be more ideal at this scale and would pair nicely in scale with the UCS Venator. But a venator at midi would be nice as well.
Yesh
the capital ships that are released with this lineup is a big win, ships like the Executor or the Invisible Hand are the exact reasons why this is going to sell. I'd love figures for it as well, but I also have figures of my own so I can't really complain (The Boba Fett from the mech + his pauldron from bricklink along with Vader really makes the SSD something else)
These are perfect for home offices. If I was into Star Wars I'd definitely get one of these for my desk. The price point is a big issue though.
These prices are outrageous. I’m confident what LEGO increased their prices by 20% just so that after a year they can sell the sets at regular price (‘20% discount’) and have a large profit in between selling to people who don’t mind the higher price.
The only way I’ll get the Invisible Hand is if they release a Venator or an Acclamator. Then I’ll do the Star destroyer coming out and I’ll track down the Tantive IV unless they do the Home One.
I need to have like a “versus” or a ship from each faction otherwise my OCD would murder me.
Funny enough, when the Millennium Falcon released, I immediately replaced the 25th anniversary brick for Han Solo. 😂
They are great looking sets, but I just can't bear myself to pay for example 85,00 for the midi scale falcon, when that same money can get you a cool play-scale set with a couple of minifigs. The point made in the video about including a minifig is actually a very good one, and to me it would probably go a long way in getting me to buy these. If you only collect Star Wars then this is probably not a big issue, but if you collect other themes like Marvel/Harry Potter/Ideas/Icons like me as well, it just become really hard to justify paying this money when there are too many great alternatives in an already rapidly growing line-up of sets.
I would be so stoked to see a Hammerhead Corvette in this scale!
I'm not really seeing a reason why a fig needs to be included. Yes it would be nice as if it were a ucs set. But then the scalper problem would arise. They'd be opened, the figs ripped out and then resold separately. Let's not forget that Lego would be charging the customer even more foe the sets. It's wishful thinking to think the sets would stay the same price. The falcon and tantive are already overpriced. The issue that I have is stickers. They should not be putting stickers in sets valued and sold at over $50 in my opinion, it feels lazy and scammy. No other midi scale set has ever had a figure go with it
There’s ways too many Lego Starwars TH-camr who are obsessed with minifigs. I’d take less stickers and more prints over minifigs for this line of collectibles ships.
Besides that they are aiming for a mature audience and are trying to reach out to more than just hardcore Lego Starwars enthusiasts collectors. Most non-enthusiasts don’t care about minifigs.
These ships all look excellent. I'm definitely going to pick up one or two of them in the future.
I'd love to see them do midi-scales of the Death Star, Home One, The First Order Star Destroyer, The Venator-Class Cruiser (So I won't need to pay $500). Poe's X-Wing...Starkiller Base maybe?
And maybe the Trade Federation Control ship!
I totally agree with you the lack of minifigures kinda turns me off them that being said I'll probably still buy them but I do want minifigures
I truly do not care about minifigures in these. They’re not scaled with minifigures in mind at all, and the whole point of sets in this scale is to provide an interesting building experience at a more affordable price. Including minifigures would most definitely bump the price of each of these sets up at least another $5 and I don’t see the point for just having the guy who owns the ship standing next to it
Not everything needs a minifigure. SW fans are way too obsessed with minifigs that just end up being stuck on a baseplate or put in a drawer.
I’m interested to see what all will go in this line. I feel like there’s a risk of running out of mid to capital ships quickly and some are hard to translate to LEGO (Queen’s Starship and anything of Mon Calamari design for instance). Although Jabba’s sail barge and Dryden Vos’ Ship would look good at this scale
All of the designs are great, it is good that Falcon has printed bricks, inclusion of stickers in the other 2 is just infuriating. Printed bricks are important, especially for details like the symbol of Confederacy of Independent Systems. I do not enjoy stickers in any LEGO sets, especially this kind!
I do not need a minifig in this kind of set but it would be welcome addition considering the price.
On the other not I would love if the series could settle on for example 2 or 3 levels of scale that way so You can set up some of the ships together(for example You could set up Tantive alongisde X-wing from a polybag). Then You could display them as a fleet or even recreate battle scenes!
Like your point about including a figure. I would be happy with no stickers. I will get the invisible hand, but pass on the others
Some can argue that LEGO is using the minifigure as the final straw/carrot to entice purchases of their expensive Collector's Edition sets. These midi-scale sets already have a lower-price as the carrot.
Agreed. But the prices are nuts. Lego is overcharging general consumers in their hunt for the rich people 18+ market
Disagree with the build about the Falcon, its almost perfect IMO. For some reason it looks better than the UCS
Yes. And it's much more practical for display. This set is fantastic.
5:22 The invisible hand? Nope I can see it right there holding the box.
Ohh I hope we get an Imperial Raider Corvette!!!
I think the reason that the Falcon gets printed pieces and more value, is probably because Lego expects it to sell significantly higher than the other starships. They probably assume that a lot of people will buy the falcon without collecting the whole collection. The Tantiv on the other hand is probably only going to be bought by superfans and collection completitionists. It's probably not unreasonable that the Falcon sells 5:1 of the Tantiv. I'm not defending their choice, just explaining the likely reasoning. I honestly think these are all overpriced and will probably not buy any of them.
I thought these sets were pretty cool initially but ouch, the price tag for these are nuts.
You'd get more value for money buying an actual UCS set despite them being far higher in price.
Smaller sets like these are awesome and I really want to see more, but it baffles me as to why they're so expensive.
If I remember, the malevolence is the only other separatist capital ship ever made besides this new invisible hand
I’m totally fine that minifigs aren’t included. I think they’re really trying to court the collector that’s not interested in cuteness and more interested in accuracy.
I’m still iffy in the Invisible Hand. A Count Dooku though woulda made it a day one buy.
The Falcon is the only one that looks cool to me. Still it's super overpriced so I will wait for a sale
1:52 Exhausting, get it AHahHAha
Midiships never have minifigures and they should stay that way.
Doesn’t need a figure. Figure can’t even fit in the vehicle, so no point.
They only put them in the sets like the UCS Star Destroyer because people would whine if they didn’t.
I think LEGO is finally waking up and realizing the want that fans have for the prequel era. They've released an AT-TE, Corasaunt Guard Gunship, 3 clone battle packs(including the super battle pack), the midi invisible hand(which needs to have a UCS version) and a UCS Venator
I loved the planet series back then still have all 12 sets on display. However while these midi scale ships are beautiful, the lack of a minifigure and the usage of stickers can't justify the price.
Not every set needs a minifigure
Exactly, I don't get how everyone gets 'frustrated' by the fact a starship collection does not include minifigs ffs.
I know they’re more expensive for the size of ship you’re getting, but for me the detail makes up for it. For me, these sets are perfect, exactly what I want in a display model series
The prices are just too high anyway. A mini-figure would have gone a LONG way towards making them feel less overpriced.
We need a Profundity (Admiral Raddus’s flagship) set next
WAIT What happened to Tantive IV in the movies? Did it just get eaten by a Star Destroyer?
We want a midi scale venator!
I don't get the obsession with minifigs. If i can't put it in the ship then why include it? Same goes for sets where they include 4 minifigs with a ship that seats 2. I feel like the extra minifigs are just an excuse to jack up the price.
yea, i like the sets for display, i don't think the minifigs are that pretty? that just me but i'm good without
I love them. I prefer mini ships over the weird heads
Don't really care for the minifigs. To me the inclusion of stickers, especially the ones on the Tantiv are more of a bummer.
I know prices are mostly due to the economy, but these are worth no more than $35
I couldn't care less about the minifigs - they would just make the sets more expensive
Honestly, I don't need ANOTHER Darth Vader, Han, Chewbacca etc. I am fine without a minifig. Let the set be just purely about the build and design. Not another Venator disaster where minifig fanatics are buying the set and parting it out (or worse) just to scalp the minifigs.
The real problem with these sets are that they're asking for nearly a $100 for a Millennium Falcon model the same size as a $30 or $40 set, with stickers instead of prints, the plastic cost DOES NOT add up. I would be absolutely shocked if they cost to produce any of these in the starship collection is more than half of their MSRP. I love the designs and concept and will absolutely grab one when they come out with one of my favorite ships.
Totally agree, for those prices they could add 1 main minifigure and it doesn't even have to be an exclusive version...
Where did you get that Trench figurine, I NEED ONE!
Getting a minifigure would be nice, but then a lot of people would be buying the sets for the wrong reasons.
there is no such a thing as buying for the wrong reason... if someone wants something, they buy it
@@Akhen. People forcing themselves to buy something big they don't really want just to get something tiny they do want...... If the total price wasn't too high, I would be a little more understanding, but in cases like these ships and the helmets, you'd be spending 70-80 dollars for just a minifigure..... Just let that sink in for a second.
I’m so glad I got the Invisible hand for 35 at my local target, the prices are outrageous!
I honestly disagree about the minifigs. I’ve gotten to the point where, if not having a minifig means spending as much as 10 or 15 dollars less, and I still get a beautiful starship to display on a shelf with proper proportions for a reasonable price, that’s a steal. This is a golden age for Lego, as they’re finding ways to appeal to everyone, including people like me (I assume I’m not alone in my position of loving Lego, wanting beautiful “legos for adults” models, but not wanting to spend too much per set). I used have a much larger collection than I do now, and I used to have a mentality that would’ve demanded for at least one minifig per set, so I understand the desire for more, but I’m not sure Lego is appealing to that mentality here, and for that I’m actually grateful
It’s not meaning 15 dollars less. It means you pay the same price, but get a set without a mini figure.
@@BrickTemplar yes but if Lego actually put minifigs into these sets, in all sensibility, the prices would go up. This sort of pricing isn’t unique to these sets. Any Lego set would cost these prices for these number of pieces and high build quality, and any Lego set would get marked up to cost more if Lego put in minifigs. I agree legos are expensive, but that’s another conversation entirely
so the Falcon is the only set of the three without any stickers at all?
I agree needs a figure for each one or even 2. I love Lego and in cost of living times want excellent value for money. Come on Lego do your bit for the fans and give us want we want so we can afford it!! Lego got my through covid 19 with my mental health.
adding a minifig would just bump up the price even more, especially if it was a unique/rare minifig
the comparison to the planet series is just silly. Those were very kid orientated. These are aimed at the adult market
And when do "a few years ago" equal over a decade ago?
I totally agree with you and the fact these sets don’t come with a minifig or pair in the case of the Millennium Falcon (given the price) it’s a pass for me.
I got the invisible hand the other day :)
I haven't been collecting Lego since I was a child with the original Star Wars line. But these sets brought me back, starting with the Tie Bomber and later Nebulon B Frigate. I picked up the Tantive IV and Executor as well, these are perfect scale for shelf display. On my radar are The Invisible Hand, and the tantive IV hallway. I've always wanted Rebel fleet troopers since I was a kid, and displaying one of them on the stand of the Tantive IV starship would be perfect.
Really hoping they eventually make a UCS invisible hand that's to scale of the venator.. Would love to see them side by side on display since I'm much more into the prequel ships over flat grey designs of things like the ATAT, death star, star destroyer, etc.
With three ships, they should have done one per trilogy. The Invisible Hand is great for the prequels, Tantive IV is ok for the OT, but why yet another Falcon? Why not the Supremacy (Snoke's ship) or The Raddus from The Last Jedi? Also, wouldn't something like Home One be better for the OT than the Tantive IV?
They should all come with at least 1 minifigure iconic to a scene with the ship
And then the Lego community will find a way of complaining about which mini figures they do include
ManDR and his drones are not the lego community@@hahahafunniness
@@TD2008T unfortunately it also includes people like you
I've been wanting midiscale ships for years but the prices are way too much. I'll be holding off until they go on sale. I think £50-60 would be perfect for this line. Hard disagree about minifigures. Not everything needs to have minifigures despite some Lego fans thinking they're the most important thing that needs to be everywhere. Lego did not make a "mistake" by not including them. They don't fit with the set and including them would've been the real mistake
No minifigure in each set is a crime given the price.
The main bridge on the Corvette is supposed to be that little black square?? Stickers for the Docking Ports but not the Main Bridge?? Just doesn't make sense. Just the stickers on the set made it a pass until Clearance, maybe.
Can't wait to get these got last year's star destroyer great review
I just use my existing figs, Han for my Falcon, Vader for my executor, etc. My friends buy cheap off-hand figs because *it's on a shelf, you won't see it up close anyway*
Do you usually get a comment from the Lego SW team when you reach out?
The Lego SW team seems to have serious minifig phobia with the skimping in sets and then the low level of care for CW and prequel figs
The only thing that I liked about the Starship Collection is the Super Star Destroyer, the one it came out last year of 2023 with the 40th anniversary of The Return of the Jedi film.
Funny that using stickers to avoid LEGOs poor light-print on dark-tile problem on a premium set is what we’ve come to. Only the best is good enough.
The head of the Tantive does look like it might be a hair too small, but the next size up i think may rnd up being too big. Definitely agree, they should be coming with mini figs.
The real problem is the different scale. At least MF is way too big compared to the others. That said I really do understand that even in this scale for example death star would still be massive in size and price.
Don’t even show me the Nebulon B… I’m still devastated that I wasn’t able to get it because of evil scalpers, and I needed it for my films.
they also limited themselves by calling it the starship collection because i would love to see a midi scale at at
Honestly they’re pathetic and boring
It also kinda sucks that they called it the "Starship" collection, because now they can only do starships, and certain things are now restricted from being made as they are not starships, such as maybe an AT-AT or an AT-TE
You perfectly summed up everything I love and dislike about these sets!!! So much so that I bought my own extra Minifigures to go with the sets bc I’m a collector and I wanted it to look good. Honestly it looks amazing with the Minifigures added
Absolutely agree. A big Lego fan since my childhood, and yes; I like minifigures as much as a nice star wars build.
Lego creator's thumbnail: this set is AWFUL, Lego DROPPED THE BALL, i am DISAPPOINTED😡 !
Actual review : the set is really great you guys, one of the best builds Lego has put out in years actually 😃.
BUT IT HAS NO MINIFIGS UNSUBSCRIBE THIS IS A BIGGER SCAM THAN NFT'S LEGO BURN IN HELL 😡😡😡
IDK man, can someone explain the minigig hype to me ? I've been a lego and lego star wars fan since i was a kid and i never understood why everyone seems to be frothing at the mouth about minifigures when they're the least interesting aspect of the Lego system to me, i get the appeal for dioramas and playsets i guess, but for display pieces like this having minifigs half the size of the ship right by them kinda makes it all look goofy and loses a lot of the sleek design of the stands and ships, and completely kills the sense of scale they have
PREACH Bro!! These are Good, but the Price Point is not going to sell these, I love the Executor, but waiting for 50 Clearance at Walmart, its coming!! LOL As the Shelves are packed any time I'm there. Lets not get it Confused folks, the Dioramas and the Helmets were WAAAy Better sets for the Money. Lego Greed here, pourely thought out, agree 100 We should have had 2 Figs Each Set Limited edition Special Prints never been created , THEN these are Banger sets and sell at that point. Sadly these are way off the Mark at 80Plus, they would barely sell for 50? Perhaps I'm wrong? See ya in the Clearance isles where I'll be picking mine copies up, not before and certainly not at Retail. Sorry LEGO, Ya Missed what the fans Clearly want here and for the Life of me I will NEVER EVER undersatnd whose Running Star Wars Line up. Can We Please replace them and get someone else who will listen to the Fans and stop getting so Greedy on the Cost Cost of Sets and Jacking up Battle Packs that should be 20 Dollars. The Great Crash is Coming and it time to find better ways toi produce sets that are going to sell VOLUME and not sets that will barely make market selling OP Pricing, Volume Pricing always wins the Day. Do Better, work harder at listening to the Audience you are taking advantage of SOON, Else we will go someplace else with our MONEY ...simple as that. Theres something called a breaking point and LEGO! Youre Beyond it with these Sets, just saying
David: "I've noticed one glaring issue that seem so obvious"
Me while watching the first 2/3: "Please for the love of bricks don't let the GLARING ISSUE be the lack of a separate collectible item that would drive up the price unnecessarily and can't meaningfully interact with the ship because they're at vastly different scales..."
David: "...not including a minifigure."
Me: "siiiiighhhhhhhhhhh."
It's not a "GLARING ISSUE," it's definitely not a "GIANT MISTAKE." Enough with the hyperbole. Minifigs would be nice to have, but if you seriously think their omission is a major issue then you've somehow missed the point entirely. They're a garnish, not the meal.