The Full Story of ISILDUR | Middle Earth Lore
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The character assassination of Isildur in the movies is my main gripe with it - it made it seem like Isildur was instantly corrupted by the ring, whereas in the books it did not control him in the same way. For example, in the books the journey he made when attacked was specifically to take the ring to the white council for advice on what should be done with it. The movies made it seem like he was parading it as a spoil of war.
Learning mor about both Elendil and Anarion would be nice. Especially Anarion since he i know less about him.
Agree. Anárion doesn't get enough credit. His brother suddenly runs out of the pass to Minas Ithil, three sons and pregnant wife in tow, with the armies of the Shadow erupting from the pass in pursuit. "Bro, Sauron's back," Isildur announces; "He burned the Tree, too; here, put this in water or something," and he hands Anárion a seedling of the White Tree that used to be growing in his front yard. Before Anárion can ask a question, Isildur immediately jumps onto a ship at Harlond, adding: "BTW, that son of a bitch took my Tower; *and* he stole my _palantír,_ so I can't use yours to call Dad; so I'ma gonna sail North, stop by Erech and call in that Oath with the Hill-men and curse'em if they don't pitch in; then I'll book it up to Elf-land, have my kid at Rivendell to take advantage of the free medical care; and see if Dad and I can put something together with the Firstborn. We'll hopefully be back in like three years; would you mind holding off Sauron in the meantime? Thanks, bro!"
He reminds me a lot of Boromir. He did a lot of good but fell victim to the Rings power
In the books I in think the appendix that Boromir and Faramir were like Isilder and Anarion.I know I spelled that wrong.
Well, what about Frodo? He fell victim, too.
@@fabianbinder3681 Sam was the only person who never fell victim even though he carried it for short while.
@@user-yn4rk2uw6r I wouldn't bet my money on him actually destroying the ring, though.
@@user-yn4rk2uw6r Gimli
it still tickles me that the sinking of Numenor and the reshaping of the entire world didn't trigger a new age.
That's true but then the age between the Fall of Numenor and the War of the Last Alliance of Elves and Men would be very short.
@@Enerdhil you could just lump that amount of time into the third age. It still works thematically as a sort of “age of Sauron”
"For Isildur would not surrender it to Elrond and Cirdan who stood by. They counselled him to cast it into the fire of Orodruin night at hand... But Isildur refused this councel, saying: 'This I will have as weregild for my father's death, and my brother's. Was it not I that dealt the Enemy his death-blow?' And the Ring that he held seemed to him exceedingly fair to look on; and he would not suffer it to be destroyed." -- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarilion.
Should've pushed him into the lava.
I'd love to see a video explaning the damily line of Isildur, Elendil and their ancestors, given that they weren't kings of Numenor, but still of Royal blood.
IIRC, there was a point where a king of Numenor had 2 heirs-a male & a female. The male heir became king, and the female heir started the line of the Lords & Ladies of Andunie....basically the cousins, nieces & nephews of the ruling house.
@@TheMarcHicks That's my conclusion too.
But I thought it could be a great video suggestion. :)
@@janwitkowsky8787 I agree, having a video to explain it to the uninitiated would be excellent 🙂.
@@TheMarcHicks It would mean though... that Aragorn isn't a direct male-line descendant, but rather a "just" a blood decendant.
@@janwitkowsky8787 given that the line is descending down from Luthien, I doubt that matters.
"His younger brother was born just 10 years later." Just? JUST? How long do you expect this poor woman to be pumping out kids??
When expected lifespan is 500+ years, 10 years between children is not that much.
That's nothing. If you look at Isildur's children, the first was born in S.A. 3299. The 4th and last one was born in S.A. 3430.
@@istari0 He had kids hanging around the house for over a hundred years? No wonder the poor guy got obsessed with having something nice he could keep all to himself!
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It's called family planning.🤪
@@Enerdhil Avoid the problem of multiple kids in diapers for sure! 😎
Great video. How about a video on Elendil?
ELENDIL! ELENDIL! FOR THE WEST! NOT THIS DAY! AHHHHHH!! Great job MELLON! Keep up the great work!
As always time has come to thank you guys for another great video!!!!!! Trully a great character!!!!!
Thanks for amazing video friend!
Awesome video
Thanks! :D
Thanks for sharing this video of Isildur with us! By the artwork & the wording, it sounds like the "King Of The Dead" was already dead when he made the pact with Isildur - I thought that he was alive as "King Of The Mountain" when he made that pact...
Its a mistake on the video authors Part, Isildur cursed the king of the mountains people and they waxed and wained till they became things of undeath for 3,000 years
If Isildur casted the One Ring upon the fires of Mt. Doom. He wouldve been one of the greatest numenorean King ever.
awesome vid Jake he would of built an empire and yeah please do vids for Elendil and Anarion
Very interesting. Thank you.
I don't think Isildur would have been able to hand over the ring to Elrond. You already saw in Lotr and the Hobbit how it corrupted Bilbo and Frodo and it took force to take it from them.
Short time? Bilbo and Frodo both had the ring for YEARS. Bilbo had it SIXTY YEARS and Frodo had it for SEVENTEEN years. Isildur just had the thing a couple of years.
@@waynepurcell6058 Yeah, good point. I was only refering to the movies where you saw how they struggled to get rid of the ring and forgot the time between Hobbit and Lotr. Ups, corrected it, thanks for the reminder
Its hard to say. If he hadn't worn it again after escaping Gladden Fields, then I think Isuldur could have resisted its corrupting influence long enough to get it to Elrond. Whether he could have handed it over is another matter entirely.
@@waynepurcell6058 Well, remember though that Hobbits are felt to be particularly resistant to the Ring's influence, in that it would corrupt them eventually but it would take longer. Men, however, were much more susceptible - remember that Isildur refused to cast the Ring into the Cracks of Doom shortly after claiming it from Sauron.
Actually you can make a series on time complete bloodline of Dunadins, from Elros to Aragorn. Pretty big and time consuming series, but totally worth it.
Love ya stuff guys
Thank you! :)
@@TheBrokenSword i really hope too see last alliance in the show
Excited to see Isildur on the amazon prime series!
Still think Elrond should’ve taken some responsibility and pushed him in with the ring. Would have saved a lot of hassle.
"Yeah, so he kinda slipped in. I tried my best to save him but i was too late.....
Anyway, that's the ring destroyed, whos up for a pint?" - Elrond
All those decisions happened on the battlefield. No one entered the Sammath Naur (Cracks of Doom) after the battle. That's just movie stuff. Also while the wise knew the ring was bad, they didn't understand exactly HOW bad it was themselves. Anyway Isildur kept the ring as wergild for his father, not because of "ring greed" like in the movie. He was also killed heading to Rivendell (while on his way to Arnor) to talk with Elrond about the ring, possibly to give it up for safekeeping as he had begun feeling the ring trying to affect him.
@@yodaslovetoy He slipped on a banana peel. I told him not to litter.
In the book, they were actually a good 15 minutes away from the Cracks of Doom. That may have been hard for Elrond to cover up 😉.
@@waynepurcell6058 Hmm, I am pretty sure that the keepers of the 3 Elven Rings would have known just how dangerous Sauron's Ring was-given thats why they refused to wear their rings during the 2nd Age. You are correct, though, that great liberties were taken with the character of Isildur for the movies.....one of many 😉.
We all want a video solely about the long and storied history of Bungo Baggins. #BUNGOLIVES
Yes! I would want a video on elendil!
Corruption! If Gandalf feared to take the ring "if only to keep it safe" it surely would have corrupted a mere mortal. Gandalf was of the same kind originally as Sauron and doubted his will own to resist it.
And yet, many mortals were able to resist. Aragon and (book) Faramir are two of the most prominent.
Gandalf and other power folks are unwilling to take the Ring because of what it would cause them to do.
That being the case i always wondered why gandalf was so scared of Sauron?
@@tjtanner500 Gandalf was powerful but limited in the ways he could use the power he had. There were limitations set by those who sent him and some limits set by his character. Limited power and willingness to abide by those limits is what differentiates good from evil. The powerful good always respect limits and the powerful evil do not recognize limits.
@@Paredification how about if Sauron was on the verge of success? Surely he would have to stretch that limit to preserve the good?
@@tjtanner500 If I understand it right. Sauron has all of his powers available, especially if he had the Ring back, whereas Gandalf is limited to what he can do. The Wizards were intended to be guides to the peoples of Middle Earth.
In their pure forms, Gandalf and Sauron are pretty equal.
I really like the second age. There's so much mystery to it
I’d love to see a video about elendil! And i think isildur wouldnt have given up the ring being that he already refused to destroy it i think he would’ve slowly gotten corrupted
I would like to see a video about Elendil too. The movie underplayed what this great man achieved. It was he and Gil-Galad who managed to defeat Sauron and slew his mortal body...and Isildur took the shards of his sword to cut the Ring from the essentially "dead" body of Sauron. The film made it look like Isildur cut the ring from a still fighting Sauron who then mysteriously "died" even though "only" his finger was cut off...
@@sweeperboy Yess oh my goodness u couldn't have explained it better! I love the movies but they did change a lot!
Elendil and Anarion
P.s. I hate how the movie made Isildur look like a lucky putz....not the case. Isildur=Mortal Bad Ass. He couldn't destroy the ring...that just goes to show how strong Saur-Saur's will is..One can only resist for so long....
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the Fellowship to Lothlorien and forward?
Fun fact if ur new here! ISILDUL is a apart of the Nazgûl! They took his body to Sauron and he brought him back and turned him into a ring wraither
God this Amazon show has so much potential to be good. Hope we see minas Ethal to minas morgul
Do you want to see Sauron take Minas Ithil from Isildur? That is what happens in the Second Age.
@@Enerdhil yes
@@palebrow1673
I guess that would be the Witch King's debut.
@@Enerdhil hell yeahs.
@@Enerdhil It wasnt Sauron taking it from Isildur. The Witch King took it and then captured the last gondorian king.
What’s the music in the background?
It would continue to corrupt him being a mere man and he would not have been able to just hand it over to Elrond.
I guess 7 people (at the time of this comment) are having a bad day cause I don't know how you can dislike quality like this
Hang on. He wasn't the king of the dead when Isilidur cursed him and his men. That's what made them so. They were the men of Dunharrow (Men of the Mountain).
Actually I think it should be made clear that Sauron was already “dead” or defeated when Isolde cut the ring off his finger
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Amazon’s series is gonna be nothing more than fan fiction. But any excuse to address Isildur is as good as any!
Yes please
I don’t have any hope for the Amazon show after watching 4 episodes of Wheel of Time.
Me want MORE…
Heres a thing
Why and how did Sauron put so much power in a ring. Why didnt he have that power for himself internally?
The idea is that he used the ring to control the other rings and from there the other races. The books are full of vilians not consentrating their power in one place but spliting it amongs their folowers ( like manipulation, items, nature morphing and other ).
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He would have been corrupt. It did the same to the hobbit’s and smeigal who was hobbit like and they had a resistance to the ring. ??? Just saying
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ISILDUR failed failing a downfall
Once again: Isildur did not cut the ring from a living Sauron in a lucky strike; he did so after Elendil and Gil-Galad defeated him and he was as dead as a Maia with essencialy a remaining Horocrux could be. Please stop telling the story as it was wrongfully shown in the movie.
I would love to see that battle accurately portrayed in the amazon series. One of the epic battles of all the 3 ages. Are there any others to rival it?
Yeah. The movie butchered that up pretty badly....
He said "Isildur took up the hilt of his father's sword and cut the ring off Sauron's hand" which is what happened.
He did not say anything about Sauron still being alive.
He also did not say he was dead. He was stating the fact that Isildur cut the ring off Sauron's hand. Which is true.
Just because he didnt specifically say everything that happened does not mean he is wrong.
@@hopegorman2784 please forgive my ignorance but as far as i am aware Sauron fought Elendid and Gil - Gahad ( forget his name). But all 3 died from this battle. Isildor then cut the ring off Saurons finger after the battle.
@@tjtanner500 Yes. That is what happened. I'm just trying to point out to the original commenter that the Broken Sword did not specify whether Sauron was still alive when Isildur cut off the ring (like depicted in the movies) or physically dead( as he was in the books).
And the Broken sword should not be accused of telling it the wrong way when they did not.