And another small inaccuracy, if my memory serves me right: Sauron wasn’t captured by the Numenoreans at the end of the War of the Elves and Sauron, but rather when Ar-Pharazôn marched right into Mordor hundreds of years later, after Sauron had already recovered again
My favorite of the High Kings of the Noldor...fun fact he was the longest ruling king. It's a shame his head got turned into a London Broil KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MELLON
Was he really the longest ruling? I know many say this, but somehow they are forgetting Finwe. Who happened to be the High King of the Nolder for all the ages of The Trees.
@@stockjock400rdw Wow, I hadn't realised exactly how long that would be! It's said the Elves (including him) first awoke in the Year of the Trees 1,050 and he died in YT 1,495. Assuming he led the Noldor from near the get-go, he therefore did so for 445 Years *of the Trees* - however, since each YT = 144 solar years, this means (if my maths is correct) that he ruled for what we would understand to be 64,080 solar years! I had assumed it would be Finarfin who ruled the Noldor for the longest time. But Finarfin ruled only during the Years of the Sun (from 1,496 YT onwards), i.e. First Age (590 years), Second Age (3441 years) and Third Age (3021 years) - in total 7,052 solar years by the start of the Fourth Age. This isn't to be sniffed at of course, but it's nowhere close to Finwe. But yes, Gil-Galad's claim to be the longest-reigning Noldor High King is for the Middle-Earth Noldor, not the ones of Aman.
@@sweeperboy Very good job man on the math. Yes I saw him or someone say it was Middle Earth. Thanks for doing the math though. I never really dove into the math of it. Figured he ruled for over 9000 years or so before being killed by Morgoth. One thing I still need someone to clarify for me though. If all Elves are re-embodied in Aman after they die, how come Finwe just does not become King again after he returns. Always kind of wondered that.
Sauron did not surrender to the Númenoreans after his defeat in the War of the Elves and Sauron. That war ended in S.A. 1701 with Sauron retreating to Mordor. It wasn't until S.A. 3261 that the Númenoreans under King Ar-Pharazôn, sent a massive force to attack Mordor. Upon realizing his own forces were completely outmatched, Sauron surrendered in 3262. That's over 1500 years later and under a completely different set of circumstances. Celebrimbor was the son of Curufin, the 5th son of Fëanor. When Sauron first attacked Gondor, Isildur went north to seek aid from his father Elendil. However, his brother Anarion was in Gondor not Arnor. The brothers were co-rulers of Gondor and Anarion remained in Gondor to lead the defense against Mordor when Isildur went north.
I really want to see this, especially to see how they explain both the Elves that "fade" in time when they don't return to Valinor, and also Cirdan who was by most accounts the most ancient Elf in Middle-Earth and who was also visibly old unlike every other Elf described.
@@sweeperboy to be fair Cirdan had one of the three Elvish rings for a very long time so that could’ve helped stop the ageing process a bit. Especially as it wasn’t corrupted by Sauron like the other races rings of power.
I love learning about Gil-Galad. He is definitely one of my favorite Elves. I would like to see him in the Amazon series as long as they do him justice. Could you guys do a video on Earendil?
Altoght I am a very great fan and I have great knowlege about lore and everything it still suprises me how much detailes did Tolkien wrote about his characters. Gil-Galad is just one of many great and honorable characters in the legendarium!!!! James, another great video, Tolkien would be really proud of you both, well done!!!!! And I see That number of your subs is growing!!!!😁
Amazon is gonna ruined it and what i heard so far is they're gonna add black hobbits, female gandalf, and naked Elves, Turning it into Game of thrones 2.0
@@jonathanthomas4182 Well for starters the actor Sir Lenworth George Henry is going to be black hobbit said there's going to be Black, Asian and brown hobbits he said its gonna be multicultural in a interview. Amazon also hired intimacy director to make it look like game of thrones basically means they're gonna add nudity and sex in the amazons lord of the rings series. Now idk if this part is true this could be a rumor but robyn malcolm is going to play female gandalf idk the rest but i hope it ain't true so far and i looked up everything every media every youtube every internet website all over the media.
@@tomclancy9574 dont forget the transgender Orcs who identifies as pansexual polymorous. Wooooh so progressive. And alsi i heard that Isildur will have a sister. Coz you know. Feminism lmao
@@Keijspermeister Celebrimbor was the son of Curufin who is one of the sons of Feanor. He probably did take the oath in Tirion, but renounced it when he realized the evil it was causing, unlike his father or uncles who kept the oath beyond reason.
I absolutely loved the movies. I never read any books and only found out the rich history 3 months ago when I watched a top 20 most powerful characters in lord of the rings video and was blown away with all the characters I didn't know existed so since then I been catching up with the 1st and 2nd age. I simply put can not wait for the Amazon series to be released.
I'm really loving all of these videos - I've only just started reading The Hobbit & Lord Of The Rings books (I know I'm spoiling myself by watching but it's great content and I can't stop!)
You forgot to mention that Cirdian the shipwright basically raised Gil-galad as his son. And Celebrimbor is the grandson of Feanor. And the numenorians tried to sail to the undying lands that’s why they were destroyed
Awsome video guys Gil Galad is definitely one of my favorite characters i hope amazon doesnt mess him up, but shows him in his full glory Keep up the great work😀
I've seen many bad adaptations of literary work turned into TV series and I'm really hoping this one isn't bad because the 2nd age didn't use to have a lot of focus on it and I want to see more. I would love for Gilgalad to be a main character and even if he isn't I hope he's given a pivotal role in the series. Great video as always 👍
He has to be given a pivotal role in the series. He is the lieutenant of the Elf Army while Elendil leads the Army of Men. If they don't show him in Lindon, I will be shocked.
Wouldn't Elrond be his natural heir? Elrond descends from Turgon matrilineal due to his daughter Idril as well as from Thingol due to Luthien. So basically he is a descendant of the greatest kings of both Noldor and the Sindar. When I think about it, he is the obvious choice to be king of both Sindar and Noldor. Jesus, he has a cool family :D
Always love these videos diving into character histories. Helps with understanding all the different names I hear over and over (especially the characters with multiple names!). 😀
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
So long as they are honest and true renderings of the literary characters, I would love to see more of all of the major characters of the 1st and 2nd age in the series. 🤞
@@cursling9 My comment was based on what we know they are doing with Tolkien's Second Age. Hobbits did nothing of importance in the Second Age, except maybe migrate. Galadriel didn't even dream about going to Numenor, but Amazon will have her there. I am sure they are saving their worst event and character depictions for the series debut. Jeff Bezos's Middle Earth, not Tolkien's. Watch how many created heroes they have in the series that don't even exist in the Legendarium, starting with Sir Lenny Henry's Harfoot.
Celebrimbor wasn’t the fifth son of Fëanor, he was the son of Curufin, who was the actual fifth son of Fëanor. Celebrimbor abjured his family and remained in Nargothrond when Curifin and Celeborn were kicked out by Orodreth.
You recently put up a pole and in the description, you mentioned that this video and the Isildur video didnt do as well.. i have a theory as to why. Perhaps with the series coming out, which apparently has a lot of second age info, folks want to go into it without, for lack of a better term, "spoilers".
Thank u for this work I've learned many new names and places that I didn't know thank u I wanna read tolkien books and learn more about of this magnificent story thanks, I'll watch your other videos
The timeline you are suggesting for his birth means that Gil-Galad has to be Fingons son because like you said Fingon sent him away after the Battle Of Sudden Flames.
Just because this video didn't get a lot of traffic doesn't mean it isnt interesting nor indicates we don't want it. I wanted this video but it didn't show up in my notifications. Keep up the good work. The real lore not Amazon lore.
Does everyone forget that Ereinion means scion of kings. Thus it makes sense that his father is fingon who was a king and a high king of the noldor, his grandfather was Fingolfin high king of the noldor and his great grandfather was finwe high king of the noldor. Orodreth was just a tool.
Well, don't forget that Orodreth succeeded his uncle Finrod Felagund as King of Nargothrond, so "Ereinion" would still be correct if Gil-Galad had been his son rather than Fingon's.
Just a slight corection Sauron did not surrender to the forces of Tar Minastir durring the War of Elves and Sauron that was much latter when the relationship between the Numenorians and elves wained. It was probably an accidental misspeak; I know you guys already know all this stuff.
Yes. He will be casted by a transgender black queerr bro. And galadriel (strong female😍) and Isildur's sister will battle sauron to a single combat. So progressive 🥰😍
I'm curious about the Noldor. They've played such a big part througout Arda's history and are mentioned a lot during the earlier ages. How much is there to know about them during the third and fourth ages? I'd love to see a video about it.
During the Third Age, few of Noldorin Elves remained in Middle-earth, with most of them living in Rivendell with Elrond (Glorfindel being one of them). Little by little they set sail to the West, until none were present after Aragorn II Elessar was King, and the Dominion of Men started.
As Leonardo said, most had either been killed or sailed into the West by the time of the 3rd and certainly the 4th Age. Galadriel was of course one of the great 3rd Age Noldor (although technically she was only a quarter Noldor, the other components being quarter Vanyar and half Teleri) and we know she left Middle-Earth for Valinor. Perhaps the main legacy of the Noldor is the remaining - and dwindling - Dunedain, especially those descended from Elros who (along with Elrond) had significant Noldor ancestry. I doubt however that there were many "pure" Noldor remaining in Middle Earth by the 4th Age, if any.
I don't think that Sauron surrends after war with elves (1693-1701) - he fled to Mordor and hasn't been talent to Numenor. After attack on Minas Ithil when Isildur fled to Arnor, Anarion didn't stay at Minas Anor or Osgiliath ? Thanks for the video 🙂
Sauron withdrew to Mordor after the War of the Elves and Sauron. Sauron did not surrender to the Númenoreans until over 1500 years later in a completely different event.
I am hoping that Gil-Galad will be a recurring character in the show, but not a main character. I think he is too powerful to be a main character unless they are going to start with a truly epic storyline, rather than building up to it.
Sadly something like this will probably happen. They really can't help themselves. Personally I'm just sticking with the wealth of books and the LOTR movies that already exist.
@@truthisparamount8992 Yes, but we will have to listen to family and friends and classmates and coworkers, etc tell us loved the scene where Galadriel single-handedly take on the Numenorian Queen's guards or other stupid stuff.
They did, as Enerdhil said, but they were essentially always going to be doomed. Even if the Valar had not invoked Iluvatar, the idea of the Numenoreans taking on the Valar, Maiar and the Eldar (some of whom had seen the Light of the Trees) in their own land is ludicrous. Defeating and capturing one Maia, Sauron, was a great achievement, but that's a BIG stretch.
@@sweeperboy Well Sauron let them take him so a fully powered Sauron with the ring would have went ham on them I am not sure if any Numenorian would have survived , just think about it , In the battle of the last alliance Sauron single handedly went through almost 30 miles of troops if I remember correctly just to fight Gil-Galad and Elendil , and he actually killed both altough he got so weak that he almost died , if isildur didn't cut the ring off he would have recovered , and this was Sauron after his body got destroyed and keep in mind that he only had about 80 years to grow back his strenght , and the last alliance army was altough weaker than the Numenorian army but it still was probably the second most powerful men/elf army in history , Sauron with the ring in his original body was an OP mf
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Wow. Just wondering if you did research and if so did you stop short. First off the wars of the Elves and Sauron Tar-Minastir did send a naval force to help the Elves, they succeeded in driving Sauron back but "NOT" capturing him. He swore revenge on the Numenoreans for this action. Ar-Pharazon was the king who captured Sauron and took h back to Numenor. I will probably find time to listen to this again, but I truly hope you do better research before making a video that has some incorrect info in it.
Great video as usual guys, although i doubt we'll be seeing much if any of these stories or characters at all in the amazon show. Ride firm and strong!
I would say Elrond had every right as the chosen successor of Gil-Galad, despite not being fully Noldor himself....although Galadriel might beg to differ being older and more powerful arguably and as one who had seen the Light of the Trees. I still think though had there been enough Noldor to rule over, it probably would have been Elrond had he wanted it.
@@sweeperboy I was not talking about Elrond being full Noldor. It's more to the point he was not from masculine right. Sure, he was second in command after Gil-galad in certain aspects, and he was one of the most important Elves; still, not a perfect fit.
I know this is a random question, and has nothing to do with Gilgalad, but is there a reason that Sauron need help to make the rings, and couldn't just do it himself?
He could make rings, he just knew they would not necessarily be accepted if made by him, even in his Annatar form. So, by using someone like Celebrimbor, who is related to Feanor, others are more likely to accept those rings! Meaning, it would be more unexpected when he began the forging of his own to corrupt all others :)
@@TheBrokenSword alrighty, that makes sense. And i gotta say I didn't expect to get a response that was actually from y'all, especially on an older video, so thank y'all, I appreciate it 👍
Really hoping I'm wrong more corporatized Legendarium content comes out like The Hobbit movies (like forcing a government to pass anti-labor laws, for example), merely chasing profits instead of caring for the source material.
Side character that has a good amount of screen time, we already know their doing politics so going to see made up characters with no lore take the front so hopefully there isn't to much politics to the show!
I was actually apoplectic when the early leaks came out. Now I'm am numb to the them. I now know it won't be JRR Tolkien Arda but AMAZON's Arda, so I will probably watch the series just to mock it here on these boards and correct friend and families misunderstandings about the Second Age.
Unfortunately, all of your excitement about exploring Gil-Galad's history in the Amazon Abomination was for naught. The vile desecration that is this atrocity of a show does nothing but destroy the lore, ruins every character and self-inserts the writers and their ridiculous woke politics that sh*ts on every character, makes every elf a total idiot, makes every man either a weak coward or completely evil, turns every woman into a warrior that can do everything better than a man and makes Sauron just a misunderstood incel which the show tried to force into a relationship with Galadrial, oh and her rejecting him is why he goes full evil. Just another mythical beloved franchise destroyed by the ever encroaching intersectional woke leftism/liberalism. Lord of the Rings now joins the ranks of destroyed legacies, which includes but not limited to, Star wars Star Trek Dr Who The Wheel of Time Indiana Jones Everything Marvel Everything Disney before 2010 James Bond Superman DCEU And many more. All lost to the realm of woke remakes, reboots & remasters... They can't make anything original, so they corrupt ours. Tolkien said it best. "Evil cannot create anything new, it can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have already created....."
Please, just try to pronounce "el" some other way than "owl" in the future. Really annoying to listen to a story of an owlish hero gil-galad and hear of his friend owlrond.
Small correction: Celebrimbor wasn’t the fifth son of Fëanor, but rather one of his grandsons. His father was Curufin
And another small inaccuracy, if my memory serves me right: Sauron wasn’t captured by the Numenoreans at the end of the War of the Elves and Sauron, but rather when Ar-Pharazôn marched right into Mordor hundreds of years later, after Sauron had already recovered again
Glad I checked comments before I wrote this exact same thing
My favorite of the High Kings of the Noldor...fun fact he was the longest ruling king. It's a shame his head got turned into a London Broil
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MELLON
Was he really the longest ruling? I know many say this, but somehow they are forgetting Finwe. Who happened to be the High King of the Nolder for all the ages of The Trees.
@@stockjock400rdw longest ruling of the High Kings of the Noldor in middle earth
@@fai-pe7oq very true.
@@stockjock400rdw Wow, I hadn't realised exactly how long that would be! It's said the Elves (including him) first awoke in the Year of the Trees 1,050 and he died in YT 1,495. Assuming he led the Noldor from near the get-go, he therefore did so for 445 Years *of the Trees* - however, since each YT = 144 solar years, this means (if my maths is correct) that he ruled for what we would understand to be 64,080 solar years!
I had assumed it would be Finarfin who ruled the Noldor for the longest time. But Finarfin ruled only during the Years of the Sun (from 1,496 YT onwards), i.e. First Age (590 years), Second Age (3441 years) and Third Age (3021 years) - in total 7,052 solar years by the start of the Fourth Age. This isn't to be sniffed at of course, but it's nowhere close to Finwe.
But yes, Gil-Galad's claim to be the longest-reigning Noldor High King is for the Middle-Earth Noldor, not the ones of Aman.
@@sweeperboy Very good job man on the math. Yes I saw him or someone say it was Middle Earth. Thanks for doing the math though. I never really dove into the math of it. Figured he ruled for over 9000 years or so before being killed by Morgoth.
One thing I still need someone to clarify for me though. If all Elves are re-embodied in Aman after they die, how come Finwe just does not become King again after he returns. Always kind of wondered that.
Sauron did not surrender to the Númenoreans after his defeat in the War of the Elves and Sauron. That war ended in S.A. 1701 with Sauron retreating to Mordor. It wasn't until S.A. 3261 that the Númenoreans under King Ar-Pharazôn, sent a massive force to attack Mordor. Upon realizing his own forces were completely outmatched, Sauron surrendered in 3262. That's over 1500 years later and under a completely different set of circumstances.
Celebrimbor was the son of Curufin, the 5th son of Fëanor.
When Sauron first attacked Gondor, Isildur went north to seek aid from his father Elendil. However, his brother Anarion was in Gondor not Arnor. The brothers were co-rulers of Gondor and Anarion remained in Gondor to lead the defense against Mordor when Isildur went north.
Thank you for this. Its amazing to me how much bad info is being published.
Yep
Lifecycle of an Elf sounds like an interesting video.
I really want to see this, especially to see how they explain both the Elves that "fade" in time when they don't return to Valinor, and also Cirdan who was by most accounts the most ancient Elf in Middle-Earth and who was also visibly old unlike every other Elf described.
@@sweeperboy to be fair Cirdan had one of the three Elvish rings for a very long time so that could’ve helped stop the ageing process a bit. Especially as it wasn’t corrupted by Sauron like the other races rings of power.
Cirdon was also older than Granny Galadriel and was the oldest known Elf in Middle Earth.
I love learning about Gil-Galad. He is definitely one of my favorite Elves. I would like to see him in the Amazon series as long as they do him justice.
Could you guys do a video on Earendil?
i hope hes one of the main characterrrr id love to see him in the show so much! great video
Altoght I am a very great fan and I have great knowlege about lore and everything it still suprises me how much detailes did Tolkien wrote about his characters. Gil-Galad is just one of many great and honorable characters in the legendarium!!!! James, another great video, Tolkien would be really proud of you both, well done!!!!!
And I see That number of your subs is growing!!!!😁
Thank you 😄
Both Gilgalad and Elendil deserve to be mane character’s in the new LOTR’s Amazon series.
Amazon is gonna ruined it and what i heard so far is they're gonna add black hobbits, female gandalf, and naked Elves, Turning it into Game of thrones 2.0
And where exactly did you her this@@tomclancy9574
@@jonathanthomas4182 Well for starters the actor Sir Lenworth George Henry is going to be black hobbit said there's going to be Black, Asian and brown hobbits he said its gonna be multicultural in a interview. Amazon also hired intimacy director to make it look like game of thrones basically means they're gonna add nudity and sex in the amazons lord of the rings series. Now idk if this part is true this could be a rumor but robyn malcolm is going to play female gandalf idk the rest but i hope it ain't true so far and i looked up everything every media every youtube every internet website all over the media.
@@tomclancy9574 dont forget the transgender Orcs who identifies as pansexual polymorous. Wooooh so progressive. And alsi i heard that Isildur will have a sister. Coz you know. Feminism lmao
Celembrimbor is not the 5th son of Feänor though, he is the son of the fifth son of Feänor, Curufin! But great video as always!!
Yeah my mistake! Mixed up my wording when recording! Good spot 😄 and thank you!
Just say his father is Curufin. Counting generations on family trees can make your head spin.😵
@@Enerdhil yeah, but if Celebrimbor was the son of feanor, he would have taken the oath of feanor, which might have made things a little different
@@Keijspermeister
Celebrimbor was the son of Curufin who is one of the sons of Feanor. He probably did take the oath in Tirion, but renounced it when he realized the evil it was causing, unlike his father or uncles who kept the oath beyond reason.
@@Enerdhil i didnt even know that you could renounce it
Yes, more of Gil Galad.
I absolutely loved the movies.
I never read any books and only found out the rich history 3 months ago when I watched a top 20 most powerful characters in lord of the rings video and was blown away with all the characters I didn't know existed so since then I been catching up with the 1st and 2nd age. I simply put can not wait for the Amazon series to be released.
I'm really loving all of these videos - I've only just started reading The Hobbit & Lord Of The Rings books (I know I'm spoiling myself by watching but it's great content and I can't stop!)
Sauron did not surrender in the year 1700 of the 2nd Age. Sauron was taken as a prisoner to Numenor 1,500 years later.
You forgot to mention that Cirdian the shipwright basically raised Gil-galad as his son. And Celebrimbor is the grandson of Feanor. And the numenorians tried to sail to the undying lands that’s why they were destroyed
Awsome video guys
Gil Galad is definitely one of my favorite characters
i hope amazon doesnt mess him up, but shows him in his full glory
Keep up the great work😀
Now, I'm just waiting for a video on Elendil, hope its on the way.
Elendil?
@@Enerdhil thanks
cool vid James enjoyed it considering Gil Galad is one of my favourite characters
I've seen many bad adaptations of literary work turned into TV series and I'm really hoping this one isn't bad because the 2nd age didn't use to have a lot of focus on it and I want to see more. I would love for Gilgalad to be a main character and even if he isn't I hope he's given a pivotal role in the series. Great video as always 👍
He has to be given a pivotal role in the series. He is the lieutenant of the Elf Army while Elendil leads the Army of Men. If they don't show him in Lindon, I will be shocked.
Wouldn't Elrond be his natural heir? Elrond descends from Turgon matrilineal due to his daughter Idril as well as from Thingol due to Luthien. So basically he is a descendant of the greatest kings of both Noldor and the Sindar. When I think about it, he is the obvious choice to be king of both Sindar and Noldor. Jesus, he has a cool family :D
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"It is precious to me." Prophetic.
Always love these videos diving into character histories. Helps with understanding all the different names I hear over and over (especially the characters with multiple names!). 😀
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Wasn’t celebrimbor the grandson of feanor, not the fifth son?
Definitely hoping he will be a character that is focused on in a few episodes
Such an epic character!
So long as they are honest and true renderings of the literary characters, I would love to see more of all of the major characters of the 1st and 2nd age in the series. 🤞
Good luck getting "honest and true renderings of the literary characters" from Amazon.....
@@Enerdhil I'm not sure I know of any other literary adaptations Amazon have done. Have you got examples of where they haven't stayed true to a book?
@@cursling9
My comment was based on what we know they are doing with Tolkien's Second Age. Hobbits did nothing of importance in the Second Age, except maybe migrate. Galadriel didn't even dream about going to Numenor, but Amazon will have her there. I am sure they are saving their worst event and character depictions for the series debut. Jeff Bezos's Middle Earth, not Tolkien's. Watch how many created heroes they have in the series that don't even exist in the Legendarium, starting with Sir Lenny Henry's Harfoot.
Gulf, not golf. I saw that spelling error on your map by Lindon. Fantastic video and information, thank you!
Celebrimbor wasn’t the fifth son of Fëanor, he was the son of Curufin, who was the actual fifth son of Fëanor. Celebrimbor abjured his family and remained in Nargothrond when Curifin and Celeborn were kicked out by Orodreth.
You recently put up a pole and in the description, you mentioned that this video and the Isildur video didnt do as well.. i have a theory as to why. Perhaps with the series coming out, which apparently has a lot of second age info, folks want to go into it without, for lack of a better term, "spoilers".
Thank u for this work I've learned many new names and places that I didn't know thank u I wanna read tolkien books and learn more about of this magnificent story thanks, I'll watch your other videos
The timeline you are suggesting for his birth means that Gil-Galad has to be Fingons son because like you said Fingon sent him away after the Battle Of Sudden Flames.
Gil-Galad👑 is one of my favorite elves.
Awesome I'm so excited for the show Awesome video!
Us too! Thank you!
Mighty champion, and friend and consul to high king My absolute favorite elf!!
You either need more research or misspoke. Celebrimbor was not the 5th son, he was his grandson.
Oops! I meant 5th son of Curufin! (So grandson of Feanor!)
Great spot though 😄
Just because this video didn't get a lot of traffic doesn't mean it isnt interesting nor indicates we don't want it. I wanted this video but it didn't show up in my notifications. Keep up the good work. The real lore not Amazon lore.
Does everyone forget that Ereinion means scion of kings. Thus it makes sense that his father is fingon who was a king and a high king of the noldor, his grandfather was Fingolfin high king of the noldor and his great grandfather was finwe high king of the noldor. Orodreth was just a tool.
Well, don't forget that Orodreth succeeded his uncle Finrod Felagund as King of Nargothrond, so "Ereinion" would still be correct if Gil-Galad had been his son rather than Fingon's.
Just a slight corection Sauron did not surrender to the forces of Tar Minastir durring the War of Elves and Sauron that was much latter when the relationship between the Numenorians and elves wained. It was probably an accidental misspeak; I know you guys already know all this stuff.
Celebrimbor was the grandson of Feanor, not his fifth son.?
I'm hoping he'll be a mainly character to the upcoming Amazon TV series.
Yes. He will be casted by a transgender black queerr bro. And galadriel (strong female😍) and Isildur's sister will battle sauron to a single combat. So progressive 🥰😍
I hope gil-galad is in the show I love lord of the rings so much hope they do him justice
I'm hoping to see him and glorfindle
I just can't imagine seeing The shows Gil=Galad fighting Halbrand.
As much Gil-Galad as possible 😁
I'm curious about the Noldor. They've played such a big part througout Arda's history and are mentioned a lot during the earlier ages. How much is there to know about them during the third and fourth ages? I'd love to see a video about it.
During the Third Age, few of Noldorin Elves remained in Middle-earth, with most of them living in Rivendell with Elrond (Glorfindel being one of them).
Little by little they set sail to the West, until none were present after Aragorn II Elessar was King, and the Dominion of Men started.
As Leonardo said, most had either been killed or sailed into the West by the time of the 3rd and certainly the 4th Age. Galadriel was of course one of the great 3rd Age Noldor (although technically she was only a quarter Noldor, the other components being quarter Vanyar and half Teleri) and we know she left Middle-Earth for Valinor.
Perhaps the main legacy of the Noldor is the remaining - and dwindling - Dunedain, especially those descended from Elros who (along with Elrond) had significant Noldor ancestry. I doubt however that there were many "pure" Noldor remaining in Middle Earth by the 4th Age, if any.
I don't think that Sauron surrends after war with elves (1693-1701) - he fled to Mordor and hasn't been talent to Numenor. After attack on Minas Ithil when Isildur fled to Arnor, Anarion didn't stay at Minas Anor or Osgiliath ? Thanks for the video 🙂
Sauron was defeated by the Númenórean army at the end of the War against the Elves during the Second Age.
And yes, Anárion stood at Minas Anor.
Sauron withdrew to Mordor after the War of the Elves and Sauron. Sauron did not surrender to the Númenoreans until over 1500 years later in a completely different event.
Real fans of Tolkien will not accept Amazon's bastardisation of this story.
I learned again. Now find room to remember it 😬
I would love to see Gilgalad in the Amazon production.
Whoa, so the ring wasn't cut from his hand in a desperate act but was just cut off it after he'd been knocked out?!
Where can we find those maps?
I am hoping that Gil-Galad will be a recurring character in the show, but not a main character. I think he is too powerful to be a main character unless they are going to start with a truly epic storyline, rather than building up to it.
very good
Even if LOTRonPrime shows Gil-galad, it will be him doing something lame or he will be the first openly gay elf. Can't wait to see which it is.🙄
Sadly something like this will probably happen. They really can't help themselves. Personally I'm just sticking with the wealth of books and the LOTR movies that already exist.
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Yes, but we will have to listen to family and friends and classmates and coworkers, etc tell us loved the scene where Galadriel single-handedly take on the Numenorian Queen's guards or other stupid stuff.
@@Enerdhil A Noldorian elf as old and experienced as Galadriel should be able to at least hold her own against skilled Numenorian guards.
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For sure, but she was never put in such a ridiculous situation in the books.
@@Enerdhil Ahaha that is true.
A question I’ve always had, do you think numenor could’ve taken the undying lands if that is they ever landed?
They did set foot on Aman. Ar-Pharazon and some of his men even set up camp near Tirion.
They did, as Enerdhil said, but they were essentially always going to be doomed. Even if the Valar had not invoked Iluvatar, the idea of the Numenoreans taking on the Valar, Maiar and the Eldar (some of whom had seen the Light of the Trees) in their own land is ludicrous.
Defeating and capturing one Maia, Sauron, was a great achievement, but that's a BIG stretch.
@@sweeperboy Well Sauron let them take him so a fully powered Sauron with the ring would have went ham on them I am not sure if any Numenorian would have survived , just think about it , In the battle of the last alliance Sauron single handedly went through almost 30 miles of troops if I remember correctly just to fight Gil-Galad and Elendil , and he actually killed both altough he got so weak that he almost died , if isildur didn't cut the ring off he would have recovered , and this was Sauron after his body got destroyed and keep in mind that he only had about 80 years to grow back his strenght , and the last alliance army was altough weaker than the Numenorian army but it still was probably the second most powerful men/elf army in history , Sauron with the ring in his original body was an OP mf
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Why geekzone had not upload a video in the past month ?
Do maedhros who soul burn 🔥 brighter ✨ than feanor
Gilgalad is my favorite character so…. Any screen time of his would be welcome.
Gilgalad Gigachad
I may be too powerful/strong to be a big character in the show so, I think he's going to be mentioned and slowly presented
Wow. Just wondering if you did research and if so did you stop short. First off the wars of the Elves and Sauron Tar-Minastir did send a naval force to help the Elves, they succeeded in driving Sauron back but "NOT" capturing him. He swore revenge on the Numenoreans for this action.
Ar-Pharazon was the king who captured Sauron and took h back to Numenor.
I will probably find time to listen to this again, but I truly hope you do better research before making a video that has some incorrect info in it.
Love your videos, but pretty sure Celebrimbor was Feanor’s grandson, not his son
Great video as usual guys, although i doubt we'll be seeing much if any of these stories or characters at all in the amazon show. Ride firm and strong!
Thanks! And hopefully we do get to 🤞
He was almost in the LOTR trilogy and should of been in it.
I want to see Gil-galad
Azog sent me here
Who would be next in line as King of the Noldor
By perfect right? None.
Elrond could try to claim the crown, but not only he was not a perfect fit, also there were too few of the Noldor to rule.
I would say Elrond had every right as the chosen successor of Gil-Galad, despite not being fully Noldor himself....although Galadriel might beg to differ being older and more powerful arguably and as one who had seen the Light of the Trees. I still think though had there been enough Noldor to rule over, it probably would have been Elrond had he wanted it.
@@sweeperboy I was not talking about Elrond being full Noldor. It's more to the point he was not from masculine right.
Sure, he was second in command after Gil-galad in certain aspects, and he was one of the most important Elves; still, not a perfect fit.
Where is the History of Middle Earth channel? This is the same guy, different channel. . . Right?
I know this is a random question, and has nothing to do with Gilgalad, but is there a reason that Sauron need help to make the rings, and couldn't just do it himself?
He could make rings, he just knew they would not necessarily be accepted if made by him, even in his Annatar form. So, by using someone like Celebrimbor, who is related to Feanor, others are more likely to accept those rings! Meaning, it would be more unexpected when he began the forging of his own to corrupt all others :)
@@TheBrokenSword alrighty, that makes sense. And i gotta say I didn't expect to get a response that was actually from y'all, especially on an older video, so thank y'all, I appreciate it 👍
Really hoping I'm wrong more corporatized Legendarium content comes out like The Hobbit movies (like forcing a government to pass anti-labor laws, for example), merely chasing profits instead of caring for the source material.
If the High Kingship of the elves was hereditary then Gil-galad would have to be Fingon's son, noy Orodreths
The lead is going to be a female character that Amazon made up. It will not focus on any character we know.
Is this confirmed or just an educated guess?
@@fingolfin9086 Just a guess. But with what they were saying. It seems to be where they are going.
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I’m pretty sure I’m part hobbit?? I believe it
Why do you pronounce elves like it's alves? Or even "owlves".
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Side character that has a good amount of screen time, we already know their doing politics so going to see made up characters with no lore take the front so hopefully there isn't to much politics to the show!
Still waiting on the video about the most powerful character Lobelia Sackville Baggins 🤷♂️ 😆
Amazon has already said they were going to put more "diversity" into their LotR show, so I'm going to avoid it.
I was actually apoplectic when the early leaks came out. Now I'm am numb to the them. I now know it won't be JRR Tolkien Arda but AMAZON's Arda, so I will probably watch the series just to mock it here on these boards and correct friend and families misunderstandings about the Second Age.
I'm sticking to the books as I don't like having others' agendas shoved down my throat.
Unfortunately, all of your excitement about exploring Gil-Galad's history in the Amazon Abomination was for naught.
The vile desecration that is this atrocity of a show does nothing but destroy the lore, ruins every character and self-inserts the writers and their ridiculous woke politics that sh*ts on every character, makes every elf a total idiot, makes every man either a weak coward or completely evil, turns every woman into a warrior that can do everything better than a man and makes Sauron just a misunderstood incel which the show tried to force into a relationship with Galadrial, oh and her rejecting him is why he goes full evil.
Just another mythical beloved franchise destroyed by the ever encroaching intersectional woke leftism/liberalism. Lord of the Rings now joins the ranks of destroyed legacies, which includes but not limited to,
Star wars
Star Trek
Dr Who
The Wheel of Time
Indiana Jones
Everything Marvel
Everything Disney before 2010
James Bond
Superman
DCEU
And many more.
All lost to the realm of woke remakes, reboots & remasters... They can't make anything original, so they corrupt ours. Tolkien said it best.
"Evil cannot create anything new, it can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have already created....."
The Woke series will probably make Gil-Galad a half black, half hispanic female lesbian with a disability.......
The blasphemy that is amazons rings of power butcher every character named in this video
Please, just try to pronounce "el" some other way than "owl" in the future. Really annoying to listen to a story of an owlish hero gil-galad and hear of his friend owlrond.
How did he come up with all these gay names for the elfs?
You know their going to ruin Tolkien's story with woke garbage right?