The Ultimate Ancient Roman Iceberg Explained

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  • Welcome to the Roman Iceberg! This iceberg touches on nearly every aspect of Roman history, from Rome's greatest men like Julius Caesar, Augustus, and Cicero to Rome's downfall and even aspects of Roman history that you may not be all that well versed in such as Lepidus and Majorian. If it deals with Rome it probably got mentioned at some point in this video!
    Rome and its people are some of the most studied aspects of history in the entire world. And yet, underneath all of the most showy and most well-known aspects of Roman history exists a deep and storied history that many people either know nothing about or have skipped over in favor of the more flashy aspects of Roman history. That is why I decided to create the Roman History Iceberg. 10 Tiers of various deep and not so deep cuts of Roman history filled to the brim with important people, events, places, and theories in Roman history all made with the goal of introducing all of you to some pieces of history that I feel are missed out on.
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    #rome #ancient #ancienthistory #italy #war #battle #juliuscaesar #empire #iceberg #icebergexplained #mystery #deep #map #explore #history
    Sources Used:
    Suetonius, Lives of the Twelve Caesars
    Livy, Ab Urbe Condita
    Cassius Dio, Roman History
    Ptolemy, Geography
    Polybius, The Histories
    Tacitus, Annals
    Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Roman Antiquities
    Ammianus Marcellinus, The Roman History of Ammianus Marcellinus
    Pliny the Elder, The Natural History
    Hydatius, The Chronicle of Hydatius. And the Consularia Constantinopolitana
    John of Antioch, Historia Chronike
    Procopius, Vandalic War
    Valerius Maximus, Memorable Deeds and Sayings: One Thousand Tales from Ancient Rome
    Cicero, De Divinatione
    Zosimus: Historia Nova
    Sallust: The Histories
    Julius Caesar: The Conquest of Gaul
    Tacitius: On the life and character of Julius Agricola
    Cicero: The Catilinarian Orations
    Gaius Sallustius Crispus: Bellum Catilinae
    Mary Beard, SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
    Richard D. Weigel, Lepidus: the Tarnished Triumvir
    John Freely, The Grand Turk: Sultan Mehmet II - Conqueror of Constantinople and Master of an Empire
    Susan Raven, Rome in Africa
    Penny MacGeorge, Late Roman Warlords
    Robert Habermann, The Last Emperor of Rome
    Peter Bang, Commanding and Consuming the World: Empire, Tribute, and Trade in Roman and Chinese History
    Hyun Jin Kim, Rome and China Points of Contact
    Riccardo Bellucci: Alba Longa
    Philip Matyszak: Sertorius and the Struggle for Spain
    Byron Nakamura: Palmyra and the Roman East
    Richard Stoneman: Palmyra and Its Empire: Zenobia's Revolt against Rome
    Stephen Dano-Collins: The Great Fire of Rome: The Fall of the Emperor Nero and His City
    Lewis M Hopfe: Archaeological indications on the origins of Roman Mithraism
    Richard Gordon: The Cult of Roman Mithras: The God and his Mysteries
    Roger Beck: The Religion of the Mithras Cult in the Roman Empire: Mysteries of the Unconquered Sun
    Miranda Aldhouse-Green: Caesar's Druids: Story of an Ancient Priesthood
    Ronald Hutton: Blood and Mistletoe: The History of the Druids in Britain
    Duncan B. Campbell: Mons Graupius AD 83: Rome’s Battle at the Edge of the World
    Ilkka Syvänne: Gordian III and Philip the Arab: The Roman Empire At a Crossroads
    David MacDonald: The Death of Gordian III: Another Tradition
    Walter Burkert: Ancient Mystery Cults
    Carl Ruck, Albert Hofmann and R Gordon Wasson: The Road to Eleusis
    Sandra Bingham, The Praetorian Guard: A History of Rome's Elite Special Forces
    Adrian Goldsworthy, The Fall of the West: The Slow Death of the Roman Superpower
    Matthew Jordan Storm, The Exarch’s Son: Heraclius of Carthage Battles the False Emperor
    Peter H. Wilson, The Holy Roman Empire: A Thousand Years of Europe's History
    Paul Stephenson, Constantine: Unconquered Emperor
    Timothy Barnes, Constantine. Dynasty, Religion and Power in the Later Roman Empire
    Richard Winston, Charlemagne: From The Hammer to The Cross
    Caroline Finkel, Osman's Dream: The History of the Ottoman Empire
    Gary Forsythe, A Critical History of Early Rome: From Prehistory to the First Punic War
    P.M.W. Tennant, The Lupercalia and the Romulus and Remus Legend
    0:00 - Intro and Tier 1
    18:18 - Tier 2
    30:20 - Tier 3
    53:22 - Tier 4
    1:13:47 - Tier 5
    1:29:00 - Tier 6
    2:05:23 - Tier 7
    2:34:31 - Tier 8
    3:03:46 - Tier 9
    3:27:26 - Tier 10
    3:48:28 - Outro

ความคิดเห็น • 74

  • @martijndevries8074
    @martijndevries8074 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Man just casually drops the best rome video i have seen in a while.

  • @ilovekenshi
    @ilovekenshi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Legendary recommended pull

  • @CrisisMoon7
    @CrisisMoon7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Went to sleep, woke up with the videos still playing

  • @tlip3480
    @tlip3480 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Pullo, back in formation!

  • @annaquay4183
    @annaquay4183 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great video. I appreciate your ability to be specific/pedantic and also friendly/accessible. Thank you.

  • @Lyndiloo
    @Lyndiloo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Considering this is nearly 4 hours long, it's shocking how many times you said "that's a story for another time" or "I don't have time to talk about all that in this video"... This must be what blue balls feels like.

  • @magustacrae
    @magustacrae 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great job on this video! Thoroughly enjoyed it 😉👊

  • @haroldkrolgor118
    @haroldkrolgor118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i love this, keep it up!

  • @elihyland4781
    @elihyland4781 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:54:47 "arms have been taken beyond the shores of Hibernia"-Juvenal
    what an achhhhhhhingly beautiful phrase im so happy i watched
    🤘

  • @pecare9595
    @pecare9595 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is actually an amazing video! You just earned a new subscriber

  • @nevernerevarine8071
    @nevernerevarine8071 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video!

  • @noteniceu
    @noteniceu 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good ole 4 hour lecture in the depths of TH-cam. Thank you good sir.

  • @gustavspuke6463
    @gustavspuke6463 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excited to watch

  • @flamingarrow7
    @flamingarrow7 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video

  • @weaselhack
    @weaselhack 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    feeling a bit sus about this one. gonna bump Cost of Glory Anabasis tonight i think. Shout out Sertorius, shout out Sulla, and huge props to my man Pullo!

  • @Chichimoco420
    @Chichimoco420 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very cool, man

  • @ryanrich6734
    @ryanrich6734 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Loved the video, here's one for the algorhythm

  • @bobbyokeefe4285
    @bobbyokeefe4285 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I'm disappointed you didn't include the "Jesus was Caesar" theory of Francesco Carotta,maybe you are not aware of it?If not,hey it could be an idea for a full in depth video for some other time.

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Wow I have never heard of that. I can tell I'm about to go down a rabbit hole!

    • @a51raider
      @a51raider 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Theory is not based in reality that’s why

    • @juelzsantana1075
      @juelzsantana1075 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that sound wayyy to absurd to be included in this iceberg. people want to learn real information, not some weird niche theories

    • @DonnyKirkMusic
      @DonnyKirkMusic วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@juelzsantana1075 I don't mean to disagree, I just feel like the idea of the iceberg is also to add fringe theories to the bottom of the iceberg, but things kind of got lost along the way so now the bottom of the iceberg is not all "this game is personalized" or "X event never really happened" type of made-up conjecture.

  • @jakobheidenreich5
    @jakobheidenreich5 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Interesting how I found this video when it already had 476 views.

  • @eligoldman9200
    @eligoldman9200 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Let’s fucking go!

  • @relaxedsack1263
    @relaxedsack1263 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Named my cat Cicero because Cicero is also my favorite Roman. Despite his arguably inglorious end. He was the model statemen,

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Cicero has always been my favorite Roman! Glad to know I'm not alone!

    • @jacko9293
      @jacko9293 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Marcus Aurelius is my goat. Cicero is close second.

    • @Cwilley0624
      @Cwilley0624 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My favorite Roman is Julius Caesar and he wanted Cicero’s respect so badly and was once moved to tears by Cicero and changed his mind about recalling an exile

    • @bluebum7408
      @bluebum7408 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Getting a cane Corso and calling him Caeser

    • @stevenpartin9208
      @stevenpartin9208 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lucius Marcius Septimius

  • @fleedoop7404
    @fleedoop7404 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I absolutely love your videos, dude. Your voice is very soothing to listen to, Your style of writing is informative yet easily digestible and your knowledge of my favourite period of history is deep and dense.
    Finding this channel was like finding a diamond. And I can't wait till you blow up in popularity.
    I would usually agree that going deeper into topics is better than the surface level. Initially when these videos came out. I didn't like the separated iceberg stuff yet. Now all the videos are collated into a 4 hour video. Not only is it easier to sit through- It feels like the topics are interconnected. Bravo dude once again can't wait for the next one.

  • @zanlooney343
    @zanlooney343 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5L of wine? Sounds like a good ol' Australian Goon Bag.

  • @murrloc1859
    @murrloc1859 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I grew up in Mexico , Puebla . It was a really small village , we played matutena and zapatito azul , canicas which games with marbles and stones some idk the real names but they’re Roman games which idk how that small village which is basically a dessert end up with those games

  • @vascoapolonio2309
    @vascoapolonio2309 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those people are dangerous and should be kept in tabs

  • @ambiguousUndertones-
    @ambiguousUndertones- 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Haven't seen a bloody iceberg so far 😊😊

  • @marvelfannumber1
    @marvelfannumber1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    15:42
    I don't know how it would be hard to argue against that claim when Rome, far from "never returning" to the possession of the emperors, was returned only like 60 years later, and then the empire held the city again for another 219 years (about the same timespan as the time between Napoleon and today).

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fair point about the 60 years later thing, the Byzantines did come into possession of it around 535 after the Gothic War. I should have noted that. But after the Lombard invasion of Italy in 569 it is seriously hard to argue that the Byzantines controlled anything in the city. Nominally they held sovereignty over the area but practically it was controlled via a combination of the Pope, the Franks, the Lombards, and the Byzantines on the side. But fair point I really should have noted that!

    • @marvelfannumber1
      @marvelfannumber1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@idiottalkshistory
      What makes you say that?
      The Popes still required imperial approval after being elected up to Pope Benedict II in 684. The Exarch of Ravenna arrested the Pope on numerous occasions and dictated foreign policy against the Lombards.
      Not to mention that Constans II straight up visited Rome in 663, and moved the capital to Sicily during his reign. I think it's pretty hard to argue the empire did not have control of Rome, when the emperor was able to visit.

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fair point. This isn't my main area of focus so I will definitely defer you to as it seems you have a much better grasp on the situation than I do!

  • @Iowan3-0
    @Iowan3-0 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:10 Looks like the Greeks forgot to copyright their religion lol.

  • @countdowntorevolution9986
    @countdowntorevolution9986 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why tf has everyone suddenly started calling consuls, "consoles"???

  • @conseglierie
    @conseglierie 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice video, but the palmyrian boy was called "Wahbʾalatus" and not "fahfahwahlus"

  • @gazhevski
    @gazhevski 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good video, but if you keep saying 'sEaSar' I dare you to consistently call Cleopatra "Sleopatra"

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! Yeah, I might be the worst person on the face of the Earth at pronouncing anything to be honest! I really do try though I promise.

    • @trevorleclair4935
      @trevorleclair4935 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Pretentious tbh, thats how people pronounce caesar in english

  • @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
    @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They do not want to be called "Berbers", they are Amazigh

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Apologies! I did not know that, will make a note for the future!

    • @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
      @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@idiottalkshistory I am not Amazigh, and I just found out recently myself despite having a history degree, so no apology necessary.
      That's what's great about our subject - you can read and learn for a lifetime and there's always more.
      Enjoying your channel, keep up the good work.

  • @melvindersingh200
    @melvindersingh200 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TrunQ 2024

  • @driver2469
    @driver2469 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would the early Byzantine Empire be considered Roman?

    • @vooptr
      @vooptr 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It’s all Roman. Always has been.

  • @calvincoolidge5943
    @calvincoolidge5943 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:00:22 Charles the 8th? More like the VIII

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just got my Roman historian card revoked!

  • @denizinneed6384
    @denizinneed6384 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ancient Kurdistan iceberg bitte

  • @relaxedsack1263
    @relaxedsack1263 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "evil women out for power" As is every man in the period.

    • @bobbyokeefe4285
      @bobbyokeefe4285 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah but the difference is that men rise to power through strength both physical/mental,women use people behind the scenes(usually other men)through manipulation.

    • @relaxedsack1263
      @relaxedsack1263 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@bobbyokeefe4285 most powerful men of the times also worked behind the scenes as well.i cant name a single person who actually gained power by "strength"

    • @muricanpepe3100
      @muricanpepe3100 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      “Ummm yeah, but men are freaking mean too okay?!?!?”
      No one said men aren’t out for power… so why do you feel the need to specify that?

    • @relaxedsack1263
      @relaxedsack1263 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@muricanpepe3100 seemed like you where specifying it was purely a male urge

    • @muricanpepe3100
      @muricanpepe3100 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How is that what you took away from what I said? My point is that you deflected as soon as someone mentioned anything negative about a woman. I only made a point because that is often what happens when someone says literally anything slightly negative about women.

  • @jayvalentin6339
    @jayvalentin6339 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ROMAN’S where Spanish too 😂 the statues are white due to all the paint fell off , its as if you show skull and bones when people show off the statues without paint lol

  • @ArakeenArchivist
    @ArakeenArchivist 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    >thinks the Ottomans were the true successors to Rome
    >randomly inserts a tirade against southerners/ conservatives/ anyone who doesn't believe the mainstream media re: the 2020 election
    >favorite emperor is Julian
    Reddit moment

    • @annaquay4183
      @annaquay4183 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahaha, your life is shit.

    • @calvincoolidge5943
      @calvincoolidge5943 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Stop crying, Dixie

    • @idiottalkshistory
      @idiottalkshistory  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      > don't think any state is the real successor of Rome was mostly being funny
      > I live in the South, born and raised as well, I can talk about it however I want to and I mostly referring to COVID not the election
      > Julian = the Goat
      cope and seethe

    • @fuckdeathpoisonanthrax
      @fuckdeathpoisonanthrax 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@idiottalkshistoryit’s Scotland. You know, blood transfusion…

    • @kennan6176
      @kennan6176 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, the Osmans claimed the legacy of Rome, and the pope tried to get it back. Google the crusade of varna to see the outcome.

  • @jcarroll7371
    @jcarroll7371 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dam I just subbed yesterday. I'm glad u let me know u are a partisan hack so I can unsub and never watch you crap again. Appreciate it bro

  • @Farticle
    @Farticle 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really great video. Only thing I didn’t know was the Palmyrene Empire. Probably because reading about the crisis of the 3rd century and after just makes me depressed.