Sagola 3300 GTO 1.3 Tech Cap For Base & Clear

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  • @walterwalters3069
    @walterwalters3069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pete, believe me or not but this days my favorite clear gun Iwata w300. Thank you for your video! Never ever thinking to buy this spray gun before. This spray gun put the clear like not any other, even WS 400. Maybe a little small for big job but result is always phenomenal !

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Walter, Isn't it a little gem! , I would have to agree, I gave it second place in my top 12 mini/midi gun video but said at the time it was my personal favourite.
      As you say it's a bit small for bigger stuff but the atomisation is superb with clear, cheers buddy 👍

  • @shaqhobson5074
    @shaqhobson5074 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of these. Used it for clear and loved it. Had it for about 3 years then I started leaking fluid by the packing nut. So I sold it. However when I bought it, it was $250usd brand new now it's $500usd which is a crazy price jump to me.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Shaq, the price has shot up everywhere, I bought this in Spain when i was there and it was equivalent at the time to around $180 USD, they haven't go up much there but everywhere else they have got silly money, in the UK they have gone up 65% , it's all since a British company bought them a few years ago, think they've lot the plot!

  • @JohnWD40TC02
    @JohnWD40TC02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Pete what a fabulous finish both on the base and the clear, really nice mate. I wanted a Sagola when I was looking to buy my first full size gun but I thought the GTI ProLite just piped it to the post, back then the prices were about the same for both guns but for some reason the GTI just seemed a better gun even though I hadn't used either of them, no regrets though👍
    You mentioned that some times when you use a new gun you can tell within minuets if it will be a good gun for you, I had that same feeling with both the Bellaria and my WS400 I just picked them up and felt right at home with them, I didn't get the same thing with my Sata though as it took a while to get used to it, I don't have any problems with it now but it's not my go to gun, I hate to say it but my Iwata's are my go to even though I was always a Devilbiss fan boy, I still want the WS400S2 OBS for base, maybe one day😟😭😂

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, yes, you can tell if a guns good as soon as you use it, it's not going to get worse just better.
      It's the opposite with some guns, there not quite there at first but as time goes on you get to like them, not always, the Iwata AZ3 springs to mind!, that's exactly what happened with this Sagola, I got this in Spain, at the time it was equivalent to £175 with a RC1 gauge and only £30 for extra caps so i had to have it after loving the 4600 as much as i do.
      I can't help thinking the new owners have shot themselves in the foot the way they have handled things, the price has shot up and hardly anyone in the UK can sell them, very odd!

  • @ashshahzad6773
    @ashshahzad6773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great job Pete. Looks great as expected - I think the key point here is to get a feel for whatever gun you use and understand its behaviour. You’ve used a lot on your channel and the finish is always comparable. Which clear have you used here?

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ash, thanks mate, your right, the thing to do is get used to using a gun and know what it likes and what, if anything, it doesn't and adjust what you do accordingly. It's one of the reasons why i like to have a gun for a wile before i review it just to be fair really.
      This was a cheap Upol clear which most of my stuff is unless i say, it's not as easy to spray as most as it doesn't have much flow but i like using it as its a good test of a gun and I'm used to it so can spray it quite well, although i say it myself

    • @ashshahzad6773
      @ashshahzad6773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peteshobbies5383 Absolutely mate. Makes sense.
      Ive seen from your clearcoat comparison video that the Upol was the most difficult to lay flat, which makes your finishes with it even more impressive!

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers Ash ,It's only because I'm used to the Upol, you need to spray for the finish if that makes sense rather than the clear doing the work in the first minute afterwards, other than that it's not too bad, it holds its gloss well as long as you use fast or normal hardener and UV protection is good as well, not better than anything type of thing but certainly up to the job 👍

  • @satamanschmidt3428
    @satamanschmidt3428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pete I told you once and I'll tell you again. You've got to try out the new 3M Professional gun. This thing is one amazing piece of plastic and the clean up is a cinch. I've gone though polyester primer to clearcoat with it (using the different tips of course) and it works well.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Sataman, yes, i have heard many people say the same, trouble for me is i can't get past the "plastic" part, i love collecting sprayguns but really am having a block about the 3M gun which i need to get over really because so many people say they are good, cheers buddy 👍

    • @satamanschmidt3428
      @satamanschmidt3428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383I understand that but you have used the Walcom Carbonio and Slim Kombat which are sort of an aluminum skeleton wrapped in plastic as well. If this came from any company except 3M, which has a $1B R&D budget a year, I would be extremely skeptical as well. In my case, before 3M bought them and killed the product, I used a turbine unit from Accuspray which came with what was called the Accuspray 10 gun which was without question the best turbine gun ever produced. Not SATA finish quality but damn close and it was used by many in the mobile paint repair business as it didn’t require a compressor. The 10 was far better than any other turbine gun on the market and it was completely plastic as well. Accuspray is where 3M got its spray gun technology from.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, i do understand what you are saying, I'm sure i will get round to it in the end, it's purely in my head and again you are right because it's a 3m gun, if it was Iwata or whoever i would feel differently about it I'm sure

    • @john2335
      @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@satamanschmidt3428 walcom slim Kombat is a poor cheerleader for hybrid materials - with numerous reports of failures appearing (aluminum innards supposedly break and leak) 😎

  • @Cavalier_Steve
    @Cavalier_Steve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Pete, great video mate and very nice finish on that tank, I love the dark silver light grey metallic i especially like the way the metallic fleck stands out in this as well. I’m only guessing here but I wonder if your notes was quit harsh as at the time is because the gun disappointed you to begin with, im glad your enjoying it now though mate. Keep them coming. Cheers.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Steve, yes, it's is a lovely colour , I wouldn't say my notes were harsh but they weren't glowing i think it would be far to say.
      This gun feels quite heavy and is quite heavy and that actually starts to appeal after a wile, the part of you that thinks this is doing a good job and is going to last me years kicks in.
      There are better gun's out there for sure but this has a lot going for it, I bought this in Spain, new with a Sagola gauge and another cap for something like £210, gun was £170 with one cap which is brilliant value, unfortunately in most places including here they are getting expensive which takes the edge off a bit.
      Thanks mate, hope your weekend is going ok, I'm off for a day's fishing now wile the weather is still good, cheers 👍

    • @Cavalier_Steve
      @Cavalier_Steve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peteshobbies5383 sorry Pete, my wording wasn’t quite right there, enjoy your fishing trip hope you catch plenty and enjoy the pice and quiet, it’s a lovely day where I am, so hopefully it will be for you as well. Have a great day.

  • @ANDY-we7mr
    @ANDY-we7mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks pete for sharing that really helps people out when you put the settings on when are you going to do a video 📹 off my 10 best spray guns 🔫 😀 that would be interesting see whitch comes out on top 😀

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Andrew, i am working on a top 10 video for base and clear but it takes a wile to get it all together but they are coming along, cheers mate 👍

  • @mikecrawford5331
    @mikecrawford5331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been wanting a Sagola I like the fact they have minimal seals. I have heard only good about them.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mike, yes, they are very good, the build quality is superb, not super fine engineering as with Meiji but good solid well made gun that will last years.
      They don't have a front seal on the tip, it's just a good fit so easy to clean as well as less to go wrong, the biggest downside to Sagola is since being taken over by a British company they have become more expensive and particularly in the UK hardener to get which is a shame 👍

  • @watchthisspacecarchannel6523
    @watchthisspacecarchannel6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Pete, I’ve been away for a while , I’ve only used my 3300 GTO Tech a couple of times , so I need to give it a better go to say for sure, but first time out I used it for base coat and didn’t really like the lay down very much , I then tried it with clear coat which it did quite well, guess I need to try it a few more times with base, but overall I don’t use it very much since then , although I totally agree it’s a very well made gun

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Roger, hope things are ok, was thinking about messaging you as hadn't heard much from you 👍
      Yes, this one takes a bit of getting used to as i think i said in the video, it can be a bit fierce with basecoat but turning the pressure down can help and of course the extra pressure helps with clear, the primer version is proving to be excellent incidentally, cheers mate 👍

    • @watchthisspacecarchannel6523
      @watchthisspacecarchannel6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 I appreciate your concern mate thank you , I might try the lower pressure in fact I think I did probably run it to high on the base coat come to think of it ,so I’ll definitely give that a try next time

    • @john2335
      @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watchthisspacecarchannel6523 for solvent base, try 1.0-1.4 bar depending on viscosity/taste. 2.0 with silvers and such you're wasting paint & very likely to end up with dry spray/ mottle.

    • @watchthisspacecarchannel6523
      @watchthisspacecarchannel6523 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@john2335 ok I’ll give it a try but upon first reading your reply those pressures seem a bit low , but hey I’ll give it a try and see how it goes 👍

    • @john2335
      @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@watchthisspacecarchannel6523 The Tech cap is bit touchy in regards to viscosity of material - some of the more 'thick' recipes won't form a proper fan pattern at low pressures - my solution has been to add a drop of thinners when the recipe ends up feeling subjectively 'thick' All of this applies in an expensive heated high-flow downdraft booth tho, in garage-type settings such as what the Pete is rocking, you may not need to drop the pressures as low since without proper airflow, sandpiling won't be as much of an issue.

  • @Martin-ri9un
    @Martin-ri9un 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi mate. I'm new to the painting game and was wondering..do you need to have a seperate gun for base coats, (water based ,solvent based)?? I bought the iwata ws400 for clear and love it. (My 1st gun purchase btw) I have been watching a few of your vids on gun reviews, but still unsure what would be a good choice for my first base coat gun. Any help would be really appreciated 🤜🤛

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Martin, nice gun for your first one! 👍 , you dont need a separate gun for basecoat but it is certainly good practice and preferable, having said that the WS400, if it's the clear version is one of a few guns that really doesn't like spraying basecoat, it atomises it to much and you end up with a dryer than idea base application, is you WS400 the original version or the new series2?

    • @Martin-ri9un
      @Martin-ri9un 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Peter. Thanks for replying. I only use the ws400 for clear coat. The painter who was teaching me left,so i'm just working with a panel beater (who sometimes paints) so i'm doing most of the painting myself. It's the original series 1 i'm using. I don't have a big budget, so i am wanting to make a purchase of a good, reliable base gun to keep me going until i can afford a decent one that will last.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Martin-ri9un You could try and find a used Devilbiss Gti Pro Lite with a TE10 cap in 1 2 or 1.3, trouble is there are lots of fakes about so be careful if you don't know what to look for.
      For the money something like a Devilbiss FLG5 1.3 or my favorite in that price range the ANI F160 1.3, good guns and just over £100 GBP.
      There's also the Iwata W400 Bellaria, they are good and often available used in good nick, not particularly cloned so often a safer bet than the Gti Pro Lite

    • @Martin-ri9un
      @Martin-ri9un 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 thanks very much Pete. My mentor who left the garage let me use his gti pro....he called it the "spraylien" as it had the alien from the movie etched into the gun body. I think it may have been a special edition cos i haven't seen it anywhere for sale (i've been looking for one, second hand at least). It was a great gun and so easy for a novice like myself to use. I would like to have something that sprays very similar to that. Once i finish paying off my ws400, i'd love to purchase something close as possible to that. If my memory serves me right, i think his was a 1.3 cap bet i'm sure he mentioned te20, but could be wrong.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they did a few colours of the Alien, a red, green and another i can't remember.
      The TE20 cap is normally regarded as a clear cap but it sprays base ok, the TE10 is the cap normally used for base, either can use a 1.2 or 1.3 tip ok.
      They are a good gun to use so hopefully you'll find one

  • @jamesmarques7245
    @jamesmarques7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a kiwami 4, I like it for clear. Looking to get a sata jet 1500 or meiji?

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi James, what Meiji were you thinking of?

    • @jamesmarques7245
      @jamesmarques7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 l'm thinking a meiji fine core, with a 1.4 tip to spray solvent and waterborne pants?

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi James, they make the finer core in 1.3 or 1.5 in HVLP or Standard, I would recommend the 1.3 Standard for solvent and the 1.5 HVLP for waterbourn but if you are only having one I would say 1.3 Standard, they are a better gun than the Sata imo

  • @joselinosilva1974
    @joselinosilva1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Sagola PODE SER ATÉ BOA, MAS TA MUITO A QUEMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM do valor aqui no Brasil.... Avalon Mata a pau no preço.....

  • @reyjr3608
    @reyjr3608 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sagola 4600 or GTO 3300? Which one you prefer for clear?..

  • @ANDY-we7mr
    @ANDY-we7mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pete is it as good as the kiwami 4 on base and clear coat paint

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Andrew, yes it will do both but be careful you don't over do it with the base, it puts out quite a lot of fluid which is ideal for clear coat but not always for base, so just turn the fluid down a bit

  • @ANDY-we7mr
    @ANDY-we7mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pete what clear coat paint did you use 🤔

  • @vehiclesprayerssociety
    @vehiclesprayerssociety 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😍😍😍😍😍

  • @darrenmiles5276
    @darrenmiles5276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What compressor you using Pete it's pretty quiet

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Darren, at the time it was a 90lt 14.5cfm belt drive piggybacked to a 50lt compressor for extra storage.
      The belt drives are so much quieter than the direct drives for sure 👍

    • @darrenmiles5276
      @darrenmiles5276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Pete, I don't do much spraying only to seal or topcoat some products I use like microcement or to spray liquidmetal I don't gave much space so was looking at a small hyundai one but bit unsure on what sort of gun would be ok for small compressor of about 10cfm, an all rounder gun probably about 1.3 tip. Cheers Darren

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Something like a Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J or Iwata W400 Bellaria BA4, they spray the same, would fit the bill, good all round gun, pretty good on air for a full size gun as well and not overly expensive, that's a full size gun btw if that's what you are thinking of

    • @darrenmiles5276
      @darrenmiles5276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 ok mate thank you I will take a look, I was looking at the iwata az4 hte s as didn't think a full size gun would work OK but if these are then perfect ! Do you use any sort of extraction in you garage. Sorry for all the questions it's good to get some answers from someone

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The W400 Bellaria BA4 cap and Kiwami4 BA4J cap use around 7.8cfm @ 2bar which is quite low for a full size gun, a mini/midi gun if it's all you need will use less so the AZ4 Impact Junior in 1.3 AZ4 2 cap would be good, the AZ4 1 cap uses less but it makes the gun slower which may be fine for what you want in which case also look at the Devilbiss Pro LiteS or Sri Pro Lite as it used to be called, great all round gun and doesn't use much air at all 👍

  • @nikolasruiz789
    @nikolasruiz789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Pete, could you please help me with this question?
    I want to paint the windows and wooden doors at home
    I was thinking of the kiwami KIWAMI4-13BA4 or KIWAMI 14KP6.
    Pete, are these spray guns good for the job I want to do? Or what spray gun would you recommend IWATA, SATA, SAGOLA or DEVILBISS for this job?
    Thanks very much

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Nikolas, the two guns you mentioned are a full size and a midi gun so are a different in there delivery, what does the technical data sheet for the materials you want to use say as far as tip size is concerned? , let me know and I will try and help

    • @nikolasruiz789
      @nikolasruiz789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 Simple specifications]
      1 KIWAMI-1-14KP6
      Gravity type
      ・Nozzle diameter: 1.4mm
      ・Air consumption: 200 l/min
      ・Paint ejection volume: 170ml/min
      ・Pattern opening: 245mm
      ・Weight: 290 gMake
      2 KIWAMI4-13BA4
      [Simple specifications]
      ・Gravity type
      ・Nozzle Shape: Straight
      ・Nozzle diameter: 1.3mm
      ・Air consumption: 270 l/min
      ・Paint ejection volume: 220ml/min
      ・Pattern opening: 280mm
      ・Weight: 355
      Pete, I could switch to other brands that you recommend.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikolasruiz789 Hi Nikolas, sorry, maybe my question was phrased wrong, I'm familiar with the guns, I know them well but was asking about the materials you would be using, normally furniture and wood products are thicker than automotive products so need a bigger tip, I'm wondering if 1.3 or 1.4 will be big enough to spray what you want.
      The manufacturers of the materials will recommend a tip size

    • @nikolasruiz789
      @nikolasruiz789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 Pete, I think 1.3 is fine, please advise me which spray gun works for me

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would say the Kiwami4 is too much for what you want, it's ok for the doors but not really for windows, the Kiwami 1 you mentioned would be ok and it has a side cup so allows good movement, also look at the Kiwami 1 13B4, it offers less of everything including air consumption and would be a good choice

  • @samnapraw4289
    @samnapraw4289 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3300 gto ? & 3300 gto pro??

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Buddy, Not heard of the Pro

  • @saifulamri1829
    @saifulamri1829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Semoga next Vidio ada terjemahan ke dalam Bhs. Indonesia. Aku sangat menyukainya.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terima kasih, semoga TH-cam akan mewujudkan keinginan Anda

  • @craigsolomon8292
    @craigsolomon8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video is wonky

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Craig, I've just watched it, couldn't see anything odd so not sure why you can

    • @craigsolomon8292
      @craigsolomon8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 ok il watch it again in the morning.how would I get ok alrest my brother to test out on of those guns..we don't have much money?

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Craig, not sure what your asking, is it where can you get a Sagola to test?

    • @craigsolomon8292
      @craigsolomon8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 hey Pete.yes.like the ones you test.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where are you in the world?

  • @john2335
    @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the weight afaik the gun is actually ~23 grams lighter than the Prolite. You must have measured them with proprietary cups but who the hell uses these anymore? 😎

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi John, I had been using a much lighter gun just before this one, can't remember what it was but this thing felt like a brick in comparison 😂
      You may be right, ill check when I can, it feels heavier than a pro lite but maybe not. I've been using this quite a bit and it really growing on me

    • @john2335
      @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 As usual in this industry, the manufacturer specs should be taken with a grain of salt. My brand new 3300 1.4 Tech just arrived. It's measuring 481 grams, not 423 as Sagola suggests. I'll never doubt you again 😎

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, I thought it felt reassuringly weighty 😀 , I hope you enjoy using it, It took a while to grow on me but once it did I like it, they are built to last for sure, cheers John 👍

    • @john2335
      @john2335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteshobbies5383 I suspect they probably outlast the Sata & Devilbiss premium guns. I've used a 4100 gto tech 1.4 (same gun but chrome finish) daily, for all tasks exclusively since early 2014. Etch, Wow, water/solvent base, clear, single stage - for every step. Still works like brand new with zero maintenance and very sporadic cleaning. Unlike the prolites and sata's my peers have been using - all these had issues & needed spares at some point. Not sure why I even needed a new 3300 but the Black racing edition has a nice aesthetic & I got it for 170€ so why not 😎
      Let's hope the anodized coating is as durable as the previous chrome, which still looks agreeable after 9 years of daily abuse.

    • @peteshobbies5383
      @peteshobbies5383  ปีที่แล้ว

      170€ sounds like a bargain, I paid 199€ for mine in Spain, they are £300 GBP in the UK, I'm sure the finish will last ok 👍