Former FBI agent: Idaho murders were 'revenge-type of killing' | Early Morning
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- As we learn more about Idaho killings suspect Bryan Kohberger, more questions about his past are being raised. Former FBI agent Stuart Kaplan believes Kohberger is a "controlling individual," and that there is "overwhelming" evidence to convict.
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Whatever the motive, the act in itself was nothing short of evil. The way he was stalking them for some time just gives me the creeps.
definitely. he was coming specifically for them. coming to kill them. the stuff of nightmares
The fuck*ng creep had been stalking them going back to June of 2022 driving his car back and forth in front of the house. Hell i wouldn't be surprised if he was the one calling in the noise complaints all those times.
It’s absolutely evil and he was stalking them like prey. How evil !!!! And so glad he s caught
How many of you will rethink how you treat people. Cause you never know...
Yea..u got ti be vigilant around u
If this murder occurred 20 years ago, this crime would’ve been unsolved. Modern criminology plus surveillance tech is incredible and scary.
And useful to catch the criminals.
scary for criminals... ,which is a good thing.
@@thetylife they not scared, until it is to late for others
Not that scary. Took them long enough to find him.
A lot of crimes that became cold cases in the 70s and 80s would never be cold cases now. There are just so many places for the criminal to get tripped up now.
He went inside the home with the intent to kill. This individual is full of anger and hate stabbing is very personal
I agree. He was in and out too quick to have went in after a particular person. All he did was kill. If he had a specific target, he would have taken longer, because he would want to explain why he was doing it. He would want to cause mental and emotional damage, not just physical harm. He wouldn't have gotten out so quickly.
He is Evil and a Narcissistic Psychopath. Also, a Pathological Liar, and will never speak the truth in the trail. He killed, because he enjoys killing.
@@AFloridaSon no way your so wrong. He knew the layout of the house and where everyone was. Especially the first two murdered on the 3rd floor. He went in for them. Xana was heard by DM saying someone's here and Bryan heard that as well and that's what got xana and her bf killed, he went in for those two girls up top xana and her bf were to suppress witnesses.
Yea it's like strangling very personal.
No, not exactly! stabbing is very quiet! You see, first of all, whoever did this, knew there would be more than just 1 person there.
Everyone who is trying to profile this guy, just makes themselves looks like an idiot.
Everyday I have a bad day I think of the parents to these kids and family friends. I try real hard dig deep to do better because what they are going through is not fair and I couldn't imagine.
I feel like BK is the type of guy that if an incorrect motive is circulating amongst the public, he will have to correct it publicly to make sure everyone knows.
He literally looks and acts like a modern Ted Bundy, so I think you're right. It's only a matter of time
@@commmmentexactly
I agree and will have to brag
Only after he's given up on trying to get out of this. I mean, there's already so many possible motives floating around that they can't all be right.
We can only hope!
“Stupid is as stupid does.” - Forrest Gump. No one that does something like this should ever be considered a genius or intelligent at all.
Agreed. Until the wretched pos has had his IQ measured, there's nothing here to suggest he's "highly intelligent" - not a damn thing. He in fact made some sloppy, stupid mistakes.
Says the moron quoting Forrest Gump, a fictional character...Lol
@utterlydementedcunt The smartest people, tend not to get caught. They cease to exist to you and I.... Those are the smart ones
Unabomber was called a genius and he made it to a Professor level - as for this clown though there's thousands of PhD students and for every 100 only 1 is actually a genius.. This guy was a total dope - everything that could be done wrong was done wrong by this idiot
Maybe be polite to the smartest ones?
IQ doesn't equal human intelligence, like, some doctors are great doctors, and some are great, and caring, and good at listening, and compassionate.
That's all that is, a separate intelligence that doesn't come from a book, and it's rare.
I love people like this♥️
An IQ test measures human intelligence. fyi
Makes me wonder if he is connected to any other unsolved cases
That is the biggest question. Is the Modus operandi evident in any other cases in areas where he has been?
I’ve studied the criminal mind and case studies for over 50 years and this man is absolutely correct in what he is saying. 👍👏
I don't agree. That rage needed really was him trying to feel alive. I'm sure you must have read that letter he posted 10 years ago. I also suspect he has done some pretty bad things in the past and this may not be his first killing, nor would have been his last if they hadn't caught him. I'm in my sixties and went to a university for a B.S. in criminal justice/criminology in 2008. He picked one or more of them for a reason. But he is a twisted freak and didn't need a reason.
They could have been strangers to add a layer of mystery as to who did this.
@@sunshineinarizona1726 Sunshine, so you were about 45-years-old earning that college degree. I am fascinated by crime/forensics/cybersecurity. What did you do with your degree? Was it your first college degree?
Psychopaths and drug addicts might have delusional thoughts let alone they lie for attention…
There's no way to know that.
I absolutely think there is much more to the story. I also sense there was some kind of revenge motivation that sparked his psychopathic rage.
Its called demon possession. They always kill in a rage of anger
Yeppers! Same here... But more peeps!
@@wqv5423ln demon possession? You need to have a brain possession because you are lacking severely.
@@wqv5423ln I wish more people understood about demons, they are so sneaky and subtle. They are at the root of evil actions. Keep telling people the truth.
He may not even have met any of the victims. They represented something to him....all the beautiful unattainable women he could never have.
I think the victims represented the type of people Bryan hated maybe he was rejected by sorority girls and insulted by them and frat guys and this was his way of getting them back
Chances are he was rudely rejected and humiliated by one of them. Let’s face this.
It doesn't mean that you have to be rejected by a certain group. That implies that you want to join that group. There are plenty of people that are socially accepted that don't like the excesses of these groups and don't want much to do with them
@@ayamystic Agree 100%
@@ayamystic any rejection is humiliating to a narcissist.
@@feedyourhead731 I’m sure he’s been rejected plenty of times before. He either hit his breaking point or got very rudely rejected this time.
He probably had himself convinced that he wouldn't get caught because he's smarter than all the cops and it's usually their narcissism that brings them down.
And he left overwhelmingly evidence.
I think that as well but I also think he wanted to write his thesis (PHD) on what killers do, what they did, how they did it, etc. I believe he did these killings to make his thesis sound believable; strong in words because he has this sense to be better than everyone else.
agree, most criminals are narcissists aren't they?
I agree.
He thought he was the smartest guy in the room and like Ted Bundy I think he will fire his counsel when he sees he is losing. This guy will never confess.
Pride before a fall.
NO MATTER WHAT HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID, HE WENT TO THAT APPARTMENT TO KILL, HE ALREADY PLAN IT AND HE WAS STALKING THEM, THAT WOULD SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME, MAY THOSE 4 INNOCENT INDIVIDUALS REST IN PEACE, AND TO BRING PEACE AND CLOSIER TO THE FAMIL OF THE VICTIMS 🙏✝️❤️💜💙😥
As more info comes out, my heart is truly broken that these four college students had to lose their lives over this. It’s been sad from day 1 but. Those four kids should be here, partying having fun and starting their next semester. Life is truly not fair 🙏💔 RIP Idaho 4
@Michelle Poorman heartless??
Partying??? How,about studying and preparing for a future?
such a terrible crime and loss indeed. College students, moving forward, need to be more careful. they need to lock doors and windows, watch out for each other, walk together (especially at night), and even during the day stick together.
There are 100s of horrible crimes on college campuses. Remember the medical student who was murdered IN THE HOSPITAL and hidden IN THE HOSPITAL? there are crazy men everywhere looking for weak, female victims.
@@djosephine I believe he is demon possessed. Only a demon possessed person commits a crime like this! Seriously.
mayb these party's without any careful cause his attention this psychopath knew it was going to shake the world.
He is Devil himself these poor ppl and their families 😢🙏💜
Quality interview, more of these please👏🏻
I had a Heroin addiction for 20 years. I have never and would never commit violence on anyone or anything. It's pretty messed up how all these news stations are speculating drawing lines between things that really know one has a clue about.
It might not have made you violent, but studies have shown that drug use makes people violent
Agreed. A psychopath can start and stop whatever drug whenever he wants. He used heroin to lose the overweight.
@@vjs4539 studies show non addicts commit Grizzly crimes, too. Certainly we all understand other covariance elements to something this heinous
Don't listen to those people no one else is. Your good brother
Kudos to you for getting out of that addiction alive. I felt compelled to give you accolades for your achievement!
Bryan to his neighbor in Pullman, WA when they discussed the murders in Idaho: "They don't have any leads. Seems to be a crime of passion."
Bryan intentionally made it look like a crime of passion because he knew that would lead investigators to those with close relationships with the victims. Intentionally made his attack more brutal and gruesome on one victim.
Bryan had no feelings whatsoever for these victims. No feelings good or bad. Bryan was obsessed with what he studied and he had uncontrollable urges to commit a horrendous crime. An uncontrollable urge to kill.
Yes, possibly. But you ignore the fact that 3 of the 4 victims were women. And that he followed at least two of the female victims on social media. That he made creepy advances to women in restaurants. And that the possibility that he may be an INCEL is widely discussed on numerous channels. In other words, rejection by females may have ignited or fired his dark fantasies.
@@marthienel2190 What you say here is all speculation and rumor.
He did indeed stalk the residence as the scene he chose for his horrendous crime. I do believe he was near the residence 12 times in the months prior to the crime as the PCA states. There is though zero evidence that he had any personal relationship with any of the victims.
The whole ICEL thing is 100% speculation and rumor. I believe he chose a residence with all female tenants because he is a coward and feared more resistance from males.
Yes, one brewery he had been to said he was somewhat rude to waitresses there. Who cares? That proves nothing. If you are referring to the restaurant that Maddie and Xana worked at? The rumor that he knew the victims from there has been fully debunked. The restaurant isn't even a vegan restaurant. It's a Greek restaurant and pizza joint called Mad Greek. Mgmt/employees of Mad Greek have been spoken to and have no memory of Bryan ever being there.
Revenge for what? They haven’t given any evidence he had ties too the suspect! Seems like the suspect was use to rejection so I don’t buy that speculation
@@Michael----- ICEL??
@@MissTXTee Involuntary Celibacy
Sickening brutality beyond words 😢 💔
Prayers we all feel that way 😢
@@DoubleDJ86 amen
The guy that cuts my lawn has an opinion on it too. You want to interview him?
He looks like someone who might have been rejected many times by many women over the years. He stalked and targeted them just like serial killers do, we might never know why them, even if he confesses he's going to say whatever he wants people to believe.
The more I see about the case, the less inclined I am to believe he ever even substantially interacted with any of them. It just looks more and more like he wanted to see if he could get away with murder, which he thankfully did not if he is guilty.
He wasn’t rejected because we have tinder and other dating sites. He was very active on those sites
@Arizona How do you know he was very active on dating sites?..the only girl that came out saying she went on a date with him said he creeped her out lol
Someone as smart as Kohberger would not make such stupid mistakes. He makes a good patsy, n he was obviously set up. The case looks too suspiciously like many other cases of serial killers or mass murders, where patsies are used. Of course, this will be rejected outright bcz it's a claim of conspiracy, n, as we all know, there are no conspiracies bcz the fascistic, criminally insane CIA, which has a long and sordid history of conspiracies, says there aren't.
The profile of a serial killer or mass murderer is one of programmed killing, controlled patsies, or SSRI-victim. That's indisputable. Organized crime is for the most part behind it, and that organized crime is CIA fronts like military establishments, psychiatric institutions, and Satanic cults. See Programmed to Kill by David McGowan, Ultimate Evil by Terry Maury, The Phoenix Program and The CIA as Organized Crime by Douglas Valentine; see also Russ Dizdar (who predicted the current exponential increase in mass murders in the US, and Mae Brussell, etc. The carnage that occurred in N Cal. from '67-'73 corresponded to when Project Phoenix was in full swing in VN. In '73 Wm. Colby, who was its head, became CIA director. The program was transferred from VN to the US. Before '60 there were 2 serial killers a year, in the late '60s there were 6, by '80 nearly 20, by '90 36. The CIA has a long and sordid history of political assassinations, government overthrows, atrocities, mind control, psych warfare, and psych ops. Before the CIA , going back to at least the Middle Ages, it was also organized crime, mostly depraved elitists, behind serial killers. People, mostly leftists, protect organized crime by being in denial of conspiracies and smearing the opponents of conspiracies.
And it's abnormal extraverts who are anti-social, bcz they lack inhibitions and sensibilities, n there are no intraverted symptoms in anti-social personality/sociopathy/psychopathy--they are externalizing disorders, introverts have internalizing disorders.
@Arizona That makes it even more likely that he was rejected. The women on dating sites are some of the most insecure and shallow people you'll encounter.
These crimes are so evil & disgusting.
Absolutely excellent explanation, the best heard about this case ever since. Full kudos.
I feel like he's the type once he is convicted and he realizes there is no way out he will talk and tell his side of the story bundy style.
I believe this also. Once the court ends, and attention falls away from him, he will want in the spotlight again, and he will start telling everything.
🤣🤣🤣 you mean do what nearly all inmates end up doing? Hahaha, going out on a limb with that one 🤣🤡
Even write a book…
If he’s guilty I don’t think he will talk or at least for many years. He gives off the impression (especially in his self wallowing analysis of himself and how her views the world) of someone who enjoys victim status. To confess is to risk slipping from this façade in his own eyes and in those he has convinced of his innocence.
@@WolfPink163 I hope he does . Times have changed , we are in the information era , don't be so daft
He sounds like a sociopath or a malignant narcissist. 10 to 1 he fires his lawyer and defends himself. I'll bet that one of the victims did nothing more than politely reject his creepy advances. He saw her and her friends as easy targets and decided to butcher them for kicks. Brutal.
based off what? this retired FBI's assumption?
lol go back to your cave you wont be missed
And even if they weren’t so polite in their rejection, if he was a creep he was owed no politeness! I have known that this was rejection based from day one. And sure enough now looking at his type and hearing what people say about his behavior, he reeks of entitlement and misogyny. One of those idiots who feels triggered by smart women and feels like he has to put them down to feel superior, because he knows that he’s not as smart as he likes to pretend he is. Can’t even commit a crime without leaving DNA behind, when he’s getting a PhD in criminology, of all things?! 🥴Most women have, at one point or another, had to suffer his kind. I’m done with the mainstream trying to portray psychopaths as above average smart, when in fact psychopaths are usually really stupid; and it is that stupidity precisely (meaning their lack of emotional intelligence) coupled with an inherent inability to manage their issues, that which leads them into psychopathic behavior.
Mac45 That's right and people are mentioning that women need to be polite when rejecting invitations from men, yet individuals like the suspect can be highly offended, no matter what!
I've experienced it more than once and remember when me and another woman were called derogatory names for politely declining a young man's advances. I'll never forget the look of hatred in his eyes either, hence why it's best for people to put the blame entirely on the perpetrator. 🙁
@@cyndigooch1162 Exactly! He is the problem. I don't think anything short of accepting his advances would have saved her and the other victims from being targeted. Even then, she still probably would have been targeted, just later on. And the fact is, there's nothing she could have said to him that could have provoked these cold-blooded murders. Based on what I've heard and read so far, it's also quite likely that he was disrespectful and inappropriate in his advances. For example, he might have told Kaylee something like "you have great birthing hips," as he said on a first date to a nurse he met through Tinder. Since Maddy and Kaylee both worked as waitresses, I imagine he simply considered them easy targets. I'll bet all they did was laugh at his creepy comments behind his back and he overheard them. He just wanted to murder someone, plain and simple.
The whole thing sounds like a distraction from other stuff people should really be worried about.
I am so interested in this case. It’s unreal.
You can't understand unless you study the Bible & understsnd the spiritual realm. Good vs evil. Satan vs God. This killer is demon possessed & that is why the murders were so gruesome
And it will probably take 3 years to go to trial. Too long to hear the real facts!
Wow what great insight! Could you please invite him again? (Also, thank you for not interrupting)
I believe from the many many cases that I have looked into that although motive is not necessary for prosecution juries often find it to be a key piece in the decision that they make.
My sister was brutally murdered with over 80 stab wounds and was stalked the week prior - never met the guy… this is absolutely 100% speculation
I’m so sorry. 😢
Very sorry! And of course you are right about the speculation.😔
4 young people who had their whole life ahead of them were brutally murdered all because he took courses in being a murderer and he might have wanted to prove either to himself or others that he could do that and successfully get away with it even after being arrested because no one could prove he did it ‼️ DISGUSTING 🤬
I've been thinking this too.
I truly hope they have saved the best for last to convict him, like finding their DNA on him or his car, bcus so far everything in the affidavit can be arguable.
@j wells She is saying that finding DNA in his car would be even stronger evidence than the sheath.
Absolutely
@@Michael----- Only if it were the victim's DNA
Great job guys love your pod cast you guys are great thank you
Although a horrific and tragic crime, I enjoyed your guest and his thoughts and insights.
He ignored the last question whether he knew about a similar perp inside the crime field and jumped to motive, which wasn't asked about.
Because that's probably the dumbest question ever asked in history. The answer would keep you up at night.
Great interview
Agree. Which is why there was a degree of personal association between Bryan and 1 or more of the victims. The two remaining survivors have to be very clear as to what happened.
At one time Bryan was overweight then lost weight and became slender. I know a guy who when he was overweight was ignored by the popular pretty girls but when he buffed up they were all over him . On the outside he was smiling but on the inside seethed a deep rageful resentment toward females. I was stunned when he shared that. When I asked him why he said it was because he was the same person overweight as he was slender yet females had rejected him when he was overweight. Those feelings continue to this day. He's also extremely inteligent but
treats women very harshly and unfeeling. Maybe rejection when he was overweight created Bryan's hatred of women.
He’s likely not the same person. I was 100lb heavier as a teen and early 20s and working through some mental blocks allowed me to lose weight. Nothing wrong with someone who is fit not wanting to date someone obese. And there are lots of character changes that come with losing that type of weight and keeping it off. Overall you are a different person before and after...physically, emotionally and mentally. No reason for people to be cruel to overweight individuals but there are many reasons not to want to be in an intimate relationship with an obese person, not all of them due to the external physical factors. He’s got a lot of things to work through still
Maybe because he was fat and mean women didn't like him and for that matter many men who weren't his friends. Like to know how his father treated his mother and how he treated his mother and sister.
Where are the pretty girls? The girls that died were not pretty at all. That's called filters and make up. Check out when the police come to their home one of the chick's was clearly over weight too
He probably did not start out mean but repeated rejection fueled hatred and then he could not accept it so he did this… just my opinion… he is very dangerous
Men need to remember those feelings when they are not attracted to overweight or plain women. This happens regularly.
Maybe be was supplying drugs to that house that night...explains why he drove around , and why he went out at 2am. Also explains why his cell had been then in last 6 months and why DM didnt call the cops... just a thought.
I love news nation because you guys get to the point fast thank you
Asking if there's ever been a case where someone is working in criminal justice and trying to get away with stuff is hilarious. This happens alllll the time. And the sad thing is, cops and the justice system usually have each other's backs.
Literally the FBI
Cops commit all kinds of crimes. From trading for sexual favors to theft & reckless driving.
You'd be alarmed at how many horrible people enter professions to cover their own evil impulses.
@@1957jmhiser1 exactly! He's not the first one to "apply" to be in for the power, and pervert the system. Yes, it happens all the time.
They keep using the word genius but he didn’t even leave his phone at home when around that area and he left the sheath? And those are just the biggest stupid things he did. I’m seriously confused at how they are calling him a genius.
Apparently he did very well at school. A former professor of his called him brilliant and said he was one of her best students ever, one of only two she recommended go on for a PhD. Someone else who knew him from childhood said he was known as a "local genius." He carried out this crime stupidly because it was emotion-driven, and nothing in any criminology class could prepare him for the actual experience of committing a crime... especially not one of this magnitude. Also, his high narcissism would make him more reckless, believing he would never be caught.
Intelligence does not equate to self control. Killing 4 people can get pretty nerve racking. Not to mention arrogance may of played a role.
The guy was a strong student, calling him a Genius is a exaggeration, because he doesn't have the resume, grades isn't enough. Regardless, it's a good thing he wasn't a Genius, or else this would end up like the Zodiac. Be happy he fucked up lol.
I just want him to tell what happened already. I hope he isn't one of those ones who just maintains his innocence 😕 everyone especially the family should know what this monster did and why.
I agree, although I don't think it will make them feel any better to know. There is no explanation he could give that would make these evil actions make any sense.
@@automnejoy5308 oh of course not I couldn't even imagine what would. I would just want to know how he was able to kill four people in ten minutes or if the main girl was his actual target and the others got in the way those two main questions I want to know
@@wb7606 Same.
well being that he's crazy! pretty sure he will hold onto to his innocent ticket.
Prosecution may have only mentioned touch DNA to continue to hold entire case close to their chest, but because of the in-close nature of the crime, would bet that they have other, non-touch dna as well. In fact Maddie's father alluded to that in an interview that was quickly pulled from the Internet. Was only up for about an hour.
good, I'm sure they may have found trace DNA of the victims in his elantra!
I agree 100%. He knew at least one or more of the victims.
Bryan rage quit life by having a massive tantrum at the beautiful people he couldn't be..
Yes and what pure evil hatred, enough to eviscerate poor little Maddy and decapitate darling Kaylee..
Bingo!
"Beautiful"?...Self centered, Gen Z, selfie-happy, "it's all about me" types?......Hardly
They’re gen z. And they are cute college students
@@kendallevans4079 🎯
He could have encountered one of the four and was turned down, stalked and into a rage upon the next encounter, every he had learned went out the window.
Those girls seem pretty obnoxious I saw a vid where one of them was pointing at a guy at a food truck causing a scene which wasn't even necessary. If your not interested in someone just say that and keep it moving no need to embarrass them
@@joestuehmer7967 not a reason to kill
@@joestuehmer7967 sooo? they deserved to be slaughtered? you must not get any women. scary as fuck to even mention THEIR behavior.
I think he may have been interested in one of the girls. She may have rejected him and he went crazy.
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I agree 100%. Thought this from the start
Intelligent people can have problems fitting in when they are children and young adults. This can cause them to be rejected, ridiculed and bullied by their peers, which can adversely affect their sense of self-esteem, their emotional development and their ability to interact with others socially. This can lead to an accumulation of rage over time until the person eventually becomes a ticking time bomb.
Exactly……that’s how we got school shooters. Bullying.
The first part of your statement is true, I was that child and I am that adult, but not all become consumed with hate, rage, and act out in violence
@@SleepyPariah true but there are those who do get consumed with hate and vengeance.
@@KingEdwardMD Other then sociopaths and psychopaths, those with mental illness are more likely to harm themselves then others, and be victims of violence then perpetrators of violence.
To say someone with border line personality disorder can't be helped is an unfair assessment, because it can be managed with coping techniques.
he was just a ritter ronry
What is the evidence of “genius”?
Self proclamation lol
Someone that no one else wants to talk to.
Good report. Good questions and answers. Interesting point by anchor about this "serial killer" type case maybe unique in involving someone deep into criminal justice world.
Do they have the bar video yet?
I kind of agree with the Former FBI agent. At some point he met one of the ladies, got rejected or she did not react to his advances favorably and thus could not be part of the group, the company he was seeking. The stalking is a indicator of his intent.
He honestly doesn't look much different than most other college age kids. To look at him, I'd never guess he was a killer.
Look again! He has the body height & build to commit this murder! Plus he was doing karate likely to improve his self defense skills
He is not a college age kid...so he looks very different
He is not a kid- he killed kids. People that that r younger than him - probably thought that was an advantage 2 him
his 30 lol
I believe ur spot on. Exactly my thoughts. Thank you
My thoughts exactly!!
The videos of the 2 girls before the deaths shows the girls appear to be drunk. If that’s the case, that could be why they didn’t hear the killer come in because usually people who fall asleep in a drunken state are out for the count because of the effects of alcohol on the body so it would not be surprising that heard nothing until the killer was actually attacking them.
Always thought this. If it was to ‘commit the perfect murder’, then his focus would have been on clever hiding of his tracks. Despite his criminal justice knowledge, he broke all the commonsense rules of covering ones tracks - because emotions will do that to you, despite your knowledge. All day long. I know this about myself from experience-- when my emotions are putting the screws to me, I go against all my knowledge and sense. I even shock myself, at how powerful that process is in my life. And, also -The frenzied attacks don’t speak of emotionless planning. They speak of rage, and personal unspeakable pain
Criminal justice studies only addresses the psychology and social trends of criminals. It doesn’t forensic science or investigative skills.
how many crimes have u commited
The beast may have just seen the four having fun on social media and began planning to stop their fun. From what I have heard on various reports, those girls lived on social media. If only there was a way to stop people from laying their lives wide open on those sites.
Never be confidant for a slam dunk conviction... One can never predict what a Jury will do.
In this case the evidence yet to come is going to be overwhelming!
You know he 'advertised' for criminals to share their stories with him for research, I don't think got a reply so decided to do it himself, thinking he could get away with it. Absolutely horrendous.
But I thought he got replies on that advert no?
does he look so stoopid? Or are you stoppid thinking this way ? This is not a motive! ha ha ha .Do you think that crowd is so stupid believing this nonsense ? maybe they are stoopid. I think you are a real killer or canceling their crimes
This is one of my theories.
Didn't know kohberger was up before the court and found guilty by the jury. When did that take place.
His arrest would seem to indicate he took a course in getting caught.
One thing is certain. The State of Idaho isn't about to offer him a plea deal of taking the death penalty off of the table in exchange for a full confession.
Does it affect anyone else, still every time I see their cars all lined up. It breaks my heart, just like the first day we heard of this horrific crime. The thought these poor kids would never drive those cars again is just so sad 💔😩
Drive their cars again?
What is wrong you, fact is their parents will never get to see them hug them or talk to them again, drive a car wtf!
@@billiemiller432 settle down Francis..I don’t think she stated it in the manner you interpreted it…
What has happened to this world to make so many people feel entitled? Entitled to literally everything. To the point you take innocent, beautiful LIVES! It’s disgusting.
Murders have been happening throughout written history. Now there's more people, which means more evil people, and the internet makes cases far away, much more accessible.
We need love ❤️ in the world. Thanks.
Lack of love due to lack of fear of God. God is love .
Doubt it, Just a sick individual carrying out a cruel fantasy
Yep
1:06 ...he had resentment towards party house people. Things he was never invited to as a teenager. It was like Friday the 13th Jason being the social outcast getting revenge. That's the vibe I get from this guy.
Exactly. He was in and out too quick. If it was revenge, he would have taken time to attack them mentally and emotionally, not just physically.
This case made me cry last night. I am a grown adult, going to be 46 this year. I just want all men to respect, care, and love, protect women, always. Let's have inner peace and contentment. God Bless
You are such a breath of air ! Must be a Christian ? I am
Lady this had nothing to do woth respecting women. He also killed Ethan. He is a killer, plain and simple. He was just born bad, u can't change that.
@@JayFromOuterspace yes.. I know he killed Ethan, but I dont think he expected Ethan to be there. He still butchered three innocent ladies while sleeping in their beds ! The ultimate cowardice! What stood out to me about this gentleman here is that he has a humble soft one. One thats actually feels for people & women. There are too many hard, callous people on here much of the time.
Soft heart I meant
When I was younger I used to go to the bars with a group of girls and the other men at the bar would see this and as the night progressed and the more they struck out with women they would focus their anger at me and my friends and want to start a fight. This situation is no different he was rejected and he killed those beautiful people because of his insecurities and his rotten persona.
Pretty common
you are an ignorant person. But since you want to bring it up. . Forget this case because I hate this guy. There are some girls/women that tease and pull it back when someone answers. I am not saying you or your friends are any of them but DO NOT tell me it doesn't happen!
@@applepie9576 You girls make me laugh. I definitely was not a club goer but obviously if you go to clubs you will be talked to. And of course if you add alcohol it will get a bit more. Thats what guys go there for. Hello! If girls do not want that do not go. From what I hear from the younger crowd today, girls want you to buy a drink for them to even talk to them. I am not saying you because I know you will get defensive but tell me thats not true?
Wonder if the elantra was ever seen on police cams during the noise complaint situations.
Great points.. as for motives… He is just crazy. No need for motives, is like a video game for him.
No. There is always a motive. Stabbing with a knife indicates a very personal connection to the victims and intense rage toward them.
@@mjremy2605 I truly agree with you only if the person is some what normal and indeed seeking for revenge do to a specific incident cause by one of the victims. Very possible.. There where four victims and they all very young. I think the individual wanted to do this as a form of challenge to him self. At the moment he is having the time of his life. All the attention and the continuing investigation , media. Again anything is possible but that is my theory. I am interested to see what would be the outcome.
It's not helpful to conflate mental illness with evil. Many, many people are diagnosed with mental illness who wouldn't hurt a fly.
I think people don't want to accept that there are demons and a spiritual realm.
Taking drugs (especially on a long-term basis) is one of THE biggest open doors to demons that exist.
But although some criminals cannot accept responsibility because they genuinely feel it was "someone else" who did it when they're demon possessed, they are still accountable because they made choices over a period of time that eventually "opened the door".
"Mental illness" is such a generic term that it's become almost meaningless now anyway.
I agree with what the former FBI agent says. He knew one of these girls and was rejected by her.
No proof
Has he ever had a girlfriend. So far no one has come forward saying they dated and what type of person he was.
Totally agree with the FBI agent, he had contact with at least one of them and was rejected. That put him over the edge.
I heard two things that gives me an idea of how they came in contact. 1: he requested vegan food. 2: one or 2 of the girls worked at a vegan restaurant. I believe then he was either treated a certain way when maybe showing interest or being creepy and at some point followed them home before stalking the residence
The young women didnt work at a vegan restaurant. The two women on the 3rd floor both worked at a Greek restaurant.
@@mygirldarby they served a vegan option at the Mad Greek restaurant
Mad Greek said he was never in their restaurant. Same with Corner Club.
@@quilltr They've already went over every single video ever? I doubt that. He could have paid cash
@@mygirldarby No, that's wrong. Maddie and Xana worked at the Greek restaurant. Kaylee, who slept on the 3rd floor with Maddie, did not.
The FBI agent says intelligent people are dangerous. Let's all be dumb so we can be safe, right ?
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Intelligent people can have problems fitting in when they are children and young adults. This can cause them to be rejected, ridiculed and bullied by their peers, which can adversely affect their sense of self-esteem, emotional development and their ability to interact with others socially. This can lead to an accumulation of rage over time until the person eventually becomes a ticking time bomb.
Hahaha....that would be the easier way 😂
Don't think that was the argument. If we claim that a tiny subgroup of serial killers are highly intelligent, it does not follow that the vastly larger group of intelligent people are therefore likely serial killers. Aristotle spinning in his grave!
I don't think he knew them personally, but initially picked them based on the house layout and location. He knew it would be easy to get through those sliding doors, and the rear of the house offered the cover of trees.
and 4-5 weak little party young women in an 'open house'. house plan is on rental sites - social media gives away lifestyle - downside of web. someone claimed 'here in north idaho, we don't lock doors in our high trust community' - referring to post falls etc
What's an insell?
I wish you stop talking about this case till June. Too much pretrial publicity might influence the jury.
How about you don't click on the video
@@2003phylis Why don’t you understand what he said?
Leave it to the FBI (or former) to come up with THAT hot take two months later.
I appreciate the explicit acknowledgment that they were speculating and not purely reporting. I think all news should be explicit about when they are presenting opinion, speculation and reporting per journalistic standards.
It is impossible to conceive of someone treating a dog or a cat in the murderous way the perp treated four human beings.
If he committed another murder prior to idaho4, if he used his knife in the first one, and also committed this idaho4 then that knife is symbolic to him and my guess is he put it someplace safe for him to retrieve again if he gets out gets away with this murder too
@@saundrarichardson6915 just like everyone, they are speculating.
None of us actually know what's going on. For all we know this could be a PR stunt to introduce people to the concept, they can believe anything they're told.
I don't think that's what's happening. I think there is an ongoing investigations, the people first hand are still working out.
There is no way people on line are able to come up with any real theory, because we're only given some info they want to give us.
If anyone is right, it's completely a coincidence. We need to let the investigation happen and be patient.
I agree with you, I def think its not his frist time in my opinion.
@saundrarichardson6915 The person wrote "If," so no citation is needed.
I wouldn't be surprised if he hid it somewhere that he could retrieve it, even if it was his first murder.
I've thought from the beginning it was some sort of revenge. I think there was one victim, in particular, he was focused on, maybe two, but one had garnered his "focus" and I think it was M.M. .
No proof
We will never know.
Never interact or argue with strangers, sure looks like an act of revenge, not random.
Females rejecting a creepy guy who is belligerent and asks if they live alone isn’t bullying. That’s self preservation.
Revenge killing. Couldn’t take rejection just like OJ.
Or you.....
I don’t think “why” will make anyone feel better. 😢
Just remember, “They live among us.”
Kids in town are spinning a completely different story.
They're saying he was there to watch one of the people taking his survey as they committed the crime. That's why he asked was anyone else arrested ?
They also said, that particular house was a "trap house"... a drug house, and that's why the cops weren't called until almost noon while they got rid of the drugs.
That would also explain why the girls that lived... their phones were both making many calls before the cops were called.
The parents supposedly are keeping quiet to keep their kids names out of it.
They don't want their futures jeopardized by drug dealing charges, and the cops know about this part of it. They would have to if they checked all the kids phone records, you can't hide that..
They're also saying that there is still another threat at that school but won't say exactly what it is. A lot of students now have a license to carry and have guns on them. Sad that for political reasons and to protect the schools rep, the grownups are all going along with this shit.
I hope if Brian participated or watched, he gets his just due. But, I also hope the whole truth comes out as there's some things that aren't adding up. If they don't address those things and Brian's defense does... that psycho could end up walking Scott Free !!!
I dont believe the cover up story on the night of the crimes! Dylan obviously did not know her friends had been murdered or she or her friend would not have fsinted when they saw one of the dead victims. Dont belive everything you hear !
Legal for students to carry???
I've felt all along that this was revenge for some perceived rejection. He is highly dangerous and would strike again.
Drugs more like. No man is worried about being rejected by below average chick's
@@maddogsenglishmen8020 They weren't below average, did you see Kaylee in those high waisted booty shorts with her butt all hanging out?
@@1truthbegettingtold275 photoshopped and Instagram filters. Check out the police cam footage.....clearly not attractive and obese
@@maddogsenglishmen8020 Agreed..way more then some imagined petty insult.
Sick interview and thread
Justice for Victims!
It could have been a specific revenge against one person or a more general revenge against women,or he simply wanted to know what it is like to kill people. Nobody really knows at this point except maybe the perp himself,and he may not even know,like he went from stalking to just snapped and went in on an impulse and stabbed people until he burned his urge out and left in sort of a daze or maybe in panic at what he had done. Guess guess guess and theorize is all we can do until more info comes. As for the knife,it could have been tossed into a river as has been suggested but that is uncertain too. Give it time,maybe we will get to know,maybe not.
Well I think he is a reject wierdo...but...the warrant is sealed and someone on u tube mentioned when warrants get sealed.........something in there makes the victim look bad
Really think one of the girls was his obsession and maybe she didn't give him feedback he hoped and rejected. She may never knew she upset him.
Imo she gave him a little chat because she seems that way a bright light but he was so dark he needed more light and she wasn’t going there and he knew it so it started wondering,stalking, obsessing his mind would not shut down in class they said he would not turn off when it came to answering questions -no control. Prayers for the families
He most likely only intended to kill the one 3rd floor girl who had rebuffed him at some point. But he found another girl with her and decided he had to kill her too. The noise and barking dog alerted the girl on the 2nd floor and when he found out she was awake he went after her too, and then he found a guy in her room who probably just woke up so he killed him too. So his plan to kill one girl blew up into four killings. He likely didn’t see the other girl on the 2nd floor when he was fleeing the scene. This is undoubtedly why he was so sloppy, he never planned to run across the three other people and in his mind he was panicking.
I think he decided it was time to leave to avoid capture. The other two are very lucky to avoid the same fate. Imagine being BF and sleeping through it, or so we're told for now.
No murder weapon and no motive. I think these analysts are being rather overconfident in predicting a guilty verdict at trial.
This guy was right on !
@@wqv5423ln Yes I do think he hit the nail on the head re motive, I think the psycho was given the brush off and took it rather badly! I meant as yet, that motive can’t be proven. A witness to such an interaction is badly needed. And the damn knife, I wish they could find the damn knife!
@@fairlyvague82 no worries about the knife. There's do much new evidence still forthcoming! I think it will be a slam dunk!
@@wqv5423ln I hope so 🤞🏼😊
It’s not rue that he had no emotions. Envy is definitely a negative one. Feeling rejected and humiliated are both emotions. You should say that he had no positive emotions………but he had plenty of “bad”ones.
But you don't know that envy and feelings of rejection were motivating factors. That's pure speculation.
There may have been some connection between him and that house but none of the "experts" want to suggest that, probably for fear of upsetting the families (or because they're waiting to hear proper witness statements from the surviving roommates).
I don’t think BK thought of those as emotions
I think he was like one of the unexploded bombs they find in the ground in Europe. They are just waiting for someone to stumble across them by accident. Perhaps the stumble happens because a woman was not interested in the perpetrator. Most people do not like being snubbed by someone else, but they let it go without trying to even the score through violence, because they can foresee the bad consequences for their future lives, such as prison.
Psychopaths can't really envision consequences. They're too narcissistic to think they will get caught.
This is the first hypothesis makes sense to me. Rejection/revenge/rage.
I believe this expert should be brought in as part of preparation and delivery of the prosecution.
Just days before the homicides, BK was basically shamed for being too strict grading students (as a TA). I believe this may have been humiliating for BK which would check the boxes for (a)the revenge motive (using subjects he’d already surveilled) & (b) why he was so sloppy in accomplishing that objective (poor planning, anger-fuelled impulsivity).