Sources: Ethan killed in doorway of Xana's room | Banfield
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- New details from a source close to NewsNation shed light on how the Idaho college killings unfolded. Forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan & Fil Waters, a retired homicide detective, weigh in on "Banfield."
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This case is so incredibly heartbreaking. I really hope that Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, and Ethan receive the justice that they deserve. 🙏🏼
I highly believe capital murder will be put in place
we all know they wont. what can be worse then being killed at 19 years old? please explain
@Bri Ba how? how can anything be of justice? besides him suffering the same suffering as them? just thinking loud here
My friends will celebrate
I’m sure they will
I can’t imagine the horror these poor souls went through…may they Rest In Peace.
My friends will celebrate
So bored with these cliche responses
@@aisle_of_view ok purge boy
@@aisle_of_view Timothy, Mathew, Daniel and everyone else in the boop had to destroy the shorties man they know just to get ahead in life.
@@Odin33356 huh thats
03:17 this expert is a beast. He corrected her immediately. She’s not listening to him and just trying to stir up some ratings by trying to sound dramatic.
That shut her up for few moments LoL she is insufferable.
she's so quick to respond
I love the way JSM basically put Ashleigh in her place & explained what he was referring to. She’s so rude to interrupt her guests the way she does & act like she knows more than these experts 🙄.
She doesn't listen just hungry for drama..she comes across as so erratic
@@Gypsy_Soul7 i can not STAND Ashleigh! She is a pure rude and disrespectful idiot! She has very little common sense!
This lady is so embarrassing. She always asks an expert a question..and when their narrative doesn't correlate with what she "thinks she knows", she cuts them off immediately, then acts like she knows more than anyone about the subject. So, why are these guests even there?
Exactly she's rude asf why even ask them questions
@crimson chin rude af, yes!.. but I think she mostly just likes to seem like a know-it-all 🙄
The more information that comes out the more heartbreaking it gets. I thought that what had originally come out was horrendous. Now I'm sitting here shaking my head and thinking about the terror these children, young adults were feeling. I remember being that age and still missing my mom and my dad. Of course I was in college, but that didn't mean anything. I still needed my parents. In some ways, a lot of ways, you are still very much a kid at that age. You're just learning about the real world, and not from the bubble of protection from our parents, and some don't even get that. This is horrible. I feel so deeply for all the parents and siblings of the kids. No one deserves this. 😔
right? like it was awful from day 1 but it was kind of "comforting" to think they were asleep and maybe didn't felt / know what was going on. But now we know they ALL were well aware of everything and were afraid and hurting
@@user-be3iu9vz4s I know. This isn't the only case either that had me feeling like this. There's so much going on and you look at it and think, has everyone gone mad?!
You’ve said it all perfectly. Adults, yes… but so young, so uninformed. I hate this for them and their families.
Amen
I feel so bad for the victims and their families
Thankyou to the psychologist for putting Ashley straight!!!
She always seems like she’s not listening to anything anyone says and is just thinking about what she wants to say.
The surviving roommate's will never be the same. I really hope they are getting the help they need and lots of support and love from family members and friends. Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
How could anyone in the house not hear that struggle?
I WONDER THE SAME THING.
It's a party house . They are used to hearing yelling , screams, fights, loud noises at all times. It's the nature of the beast.
@@Jimmy-rd5ig sure it may be the nature of the beast , during a loud rager . But they didn't have a party there that night .
Possibly headphones. I wear over the ear style headphones.
One of the surviving roommates did hear the struggle. Did y’all miss that? It’s in the PCA
It's quite possible the coroner was saying what needed to be said at that point in time to keep details from getting out. They hadn't yet arrested a suspect, and we also know that law enforcement said initially that the surviving roommates were both sleeping on the first floor when the murders occurred, which we now know wasn't the case. Reading the PCA, it seems to me that Xana was found nearer her bedroom door, Ethan *in* the room. "As I approached the room, I could see a body, later identified as Kernodle's, laying on the floor. Kernodle was deceased with wounds which appeared to have been caused by an edged weapon. Also in the room was a male, later identified as Ethan Chapin..." This reads as Xana being near or in the doorway, Ethan further in.
Still so perplexed how there was nothing heard…how do you murder 4 people completely silently?? especially with the last person being awake and putting up a fight?
Something about this case is so off…or there’s some key information we’re still not aware of. Hopefully one day it will make sense with more released.
Ditto
I agree, there is more going on than some incel who just snapped
I don't believe for a minute she didn't hear people across the hall on the same floor screaming and fighting for there lives.
He was not alone and someone covered their mouths with something.....pillow or cloth.
@@mhenry56941 right, she opened her door three times and you mean to hear me you didn't hear someone fighting for their lives,she is full of it
Is it possible those details weren't released in that way to try & keep them private as kind of like something 'only the killer would know'!? Absolutely heartbreaking to hear those details 💔 I'm wondering if Xana fought back that hard she definitely had to of made SOME sound...some scream...Something...
Wow really you're just now thinking of that? Of course they did.
@Citizen Dame Uh no, I'm not 'Just now' thinking that, hence the !? More of a sarcastic 'Way to to on releasing those details that should of been kept private for a reason' 🙄
🙊🙉🙈 nothing is ever clear ...???
@@citizendame6329
Dickhead
So much for Dylan & Bethany. 🤬🤬
So sad. I pray they have the right guy, the families deserve Justice.
Your prayer is answered
So do I and yes they do!
@@peacethroughstrength172 how do u know?
Oh they for sure (by what I know) have the right guy. They were gone too soon. 💔
@@getsy. you know what they tell you, and they tell you what they want you to think you know. For all we know it could have been someone on the local police force and they framed Bryan
Heartbreaking to think of the fear they must have gone through. Especially after seeing pictures of them so happy and care free just a few hours before, with no idea that was to be their last night alive.
The more graphic their final few minutes of life gets, the more horrified I am. Put your self in their shoes, and you see this mad man brutally stabbing your bf in a blood thirsty knife slashes, Imagine her fear knowing he's coming for her too. 😲😩😱😢
That's all I've been able to think about. I've sobbed about Xana while driving home, just imagining her fear and pain
I won't put myself in their place.
I had to go through of all that as a youngster, when Ted was running around in our backyards and community parks.
Instead, think of how you can secure your home, doors and windows. Think of the bad guy turning away from your home and your room, because you have adequate locks. Think of using your air horn, your pepper spray, your force multiplier.
Think of where you can have a secure hidey hole, under your bed against the wall maybe. Between your mattresses. A piece of paneling in your closet, that you can hide behind.
Watch Active Self Protection Channel, and learn to be a self-defender. Not be a silly person in an unsecure party house full of silly people, with no security, and male strangers moving through with frequency.
That would have been a scary house to live in. So unsecure, so arrogant about safety.
And they pay EXTRA to belong to a sorority.
agree
@@Ena48145 and then the only person that could help Xana when she was crying ignored her. Xana could have lived
If your horrified then don’t follow the case
Thank you for not saying the thing's name. The victims are usually forgotten and the case always referred to by the killers name.
Who's the killer ?
@@michaelpower4372 Not sure. Who's the killer?
Even though the evidence is mounting against him, he’s still innocent until proven guilty.
@@KaeBae_ I never said he is guilty but I agree. Also, another reason not to say the suspects name. If he is innocent it won't matter. There has been so much coverage on this case and every report gives us more reasons to find him guilty.
I still don't believe the roommates didn't hear a thing
Of course DM heard all of it. Something is off with this case. If it quacks like a duck...
Agreed. Even you on the first floor, that roommate was never mentioned at all. I mean… wtf? But there is rumor that all of these kids were on drugs or intoxicated and passed out… party too hard. Lol.
Dylan's story is another level of bizarre. Can't believe all the people defending her, it's suspicious as hell.
@@terrie001 That passed out story only works if DM doesn't say she saw the intruder and his eyebrows. She was awake and heard all of it. No doubt in my mind. You can't just pick and choose what you heard. Walls are thin as f at 4am when its dark and quiet in the house.
@@joshfallen8069 How do you know it was dark and quiet?
Xana was likely "awake and aware"? Yet no screaming or anything to rouse the other roommates. And if Ethan were attacked in the hallway, whether his body was found there or not, there would be blood EVERYWHERE in that hallway. And you're telling me that Dylan and/or Bethany didn't see a drop of blood when they woke up? Or the God awful smell? But yet instead of calling police, they called friends over because they thought Xana or Ethan had "passed out". Come on, this story just keeps getting more ridiculous.
Yes! This also contradicts the probably cause affidavit - the officer describes seeing xana's body as he walks to her room and then sees Ethan's body in the room too. Unless the friends and surviving roommates moved the bodies. Bc it doesn't align with reports about Ethan friend finding his body and calling 911... did he walk over xanas body? Didn't check her body for a pulse?
It's just not adding up.
Ethan could have been in the doorway and not the hallway listening as he heard BK move around and been the person Dylan heard "there is somebody here". As there was no blood in the hallway or living room we know the attack didn't happen in either. BK slashes him in the neck and pushes him back onto the bed. Xana then puts up a fight and dies and her body was found close to the bedroom doorway as a detective who arrived later at the scene said he looked down from the living room and could see Xanas body on the floor. He closes the door to Maddie's and Xana's bedroom and hence the roommates would never know until they opened the door.
These poor kids..😥Sounds like Ethan & Xana put up a hell of a fight 💔
It's very important to stay protected and go to the range once a month
@@georgegil2299 omg STFU. You nuts take any opportunity to push guns
@@georgegil2299 with ya on that! I keep a gun at arms reach in my house and carry when I'm out. I refuse to be a statistic.
@George Gil Yes! I grew up on the range, trained with how to properly & safely handle a firearm thanks to my dad! I live in a college town 1 block away from our university & my gun is kept by the side of my bed with a loaded clip ready to go if anyone tries to get into my apartment! They'd be making a big mistake!
I am a female who's husband works 3rd shift ,i am going to invest in a firearm, i do have 2 bitbulls,anyone comes in my house with them around wont make it out, they are very friendly docile dog but I think if someone was putting their hands on me they would defend me to the death
Of course she was awake she just got her food delivery
Yep and Ethan could have potentially went into the kitchen to grab them forks or plates or something during the same time BK was on the same floor
This coroner shouldn’t even have said anything about these murders! Like she is the most unprofessional person I’ve heard of! And Joe Scott knows what he’s talking about, so maybe listen to what he says instead of trying to tell him differently! This is such a horrific case and I’m just so sad for these parents to have to listen to this day in & out about their children!
I hope all the parents already knew all this. And didn't find all this out on the news. I pray the source told them first
No offense, but you're telling me all these poor girls, and guy were literally and brutally stabbed to death, one by one, some even fighting the killer, most likely screaming, crying while fighting the sicko off...and the 2 other roommates who were not touched heard absolutely nothing, while 3 of their friends are being stabbed to death one by one???? Yet one of them even saw the masked stranger walking inside the house. But ran back in her room and decided call 911, 8 hours later??? Yeah okay! I'm sorry, but something here is so messed up and it doesn't make sense and why the media avoids vividly to bring it up nor dare to question it, is even more mind blowing. This is very very strange and mind-boggling.
Bingo. I am suppose to believe that one guy with a knife went into a house with 6 people and a dog and did what ever he wanted. AND it took 8 hours for anyone to call 911. Bunch of BS. Bryan is involved, but there is so much more to this...
@Josh Fallen yes, remember when he was arrested his first question was " was anyone else arrested " 🤔
I'm hoping that when the rest of this case comes to light, all of the things that make no sense, will. I have to choose to believe that because I'll drive myself bonkers.
So what if they heard or not. If you hear your roomates moaning you might just think they are having sex. Especially if the bed is shaking. How would you know what is happening if you hear moaning and movement?
.. does anyone know if Xana died immediately? I have had a horrible thought that she was
the “unconscious “ one as the 911 call was placed. If this was the case, what a burden DM must carry! I’m still baffled by the length of time it took for them to call 911.. also.. with the gag order, I have noticed that the police are outwardly lying about incidents that took place in the jail.
Truly sad and my heart goes out to the families. I don’t think this will ever make sense to me, no matter the details that emerge. I hope justice is served.
He tried to save his woman and died in the process. The fear those victims felt that night. I pray they are at peace now
His ass was probably running lmao
"his woman" lol. What's that sound? Oh, the 50's are calling and they want you back.
@@danteright473 he was ambushed, he walked out into the hall to see who was there and that’s probably when he got jumped, that’s what it sounds like what happened to me. If he could’ve ran, he would’ve got away, he seemed tall and physically capable. IMO Ethan got ambushed…this isn’t funny by the way.
He appears to have made a good effort. Very horrible situation.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 Wow, so woke and brave. Keep fighting warrior!
Sweet babies 💔😰😰I’m so sorry you all had to endure this. Xana-you’re a brave fighter, honey! RIP
They weren't babies they were adults.
@@citizendame6329 Xana, Kaylee, Madison and Ethan will always be their parents’ babies! May they rest in peace
@@citizendame6329 tonto !
@@lachicadehumo1366 but they aren't our babies! May these adults rip!
Chandler meant "babies" as a tender way of looking at them , and deeply empathizing with what they went through.
The coronor did NOT say there were "only" stab wounds.. She said the nature of the injuries were too severe to be considered as just stab wounds.
I don't see what difference that makes anyway. Four innocent young people were killed brutally and mercilessly in an act of unfathomable evil. Period.
All this going on and the roommate didn’t call police ?
I really want to see the Factual time line and facts about the case. there is so much info that doesnt match up and yes your question is waiting on an answer. By the time he goes to Court maybe we will have factual answers. I would think that after he realizes that the truth is the only bargining chip left , he will trade the Facts for a window seat to the Gallows.
@@mikeloper100 I want her story , I also want to know why they called friends before calling police , and why call about an “ unconscious “ person when there was blood all over the place
Oh my goodness. My heart bleeds for these poor kids. I wonder the pain they might have gone through. May they R.I.P
A lot, but for a short period of time, as their wounds were described by the coroner as *lethal,* and they would've died rather quickly.
@@wholeshebang1 Hmmmm
Pun intended?
I've heard that being stabbed is like being punched. Your mind cannot comprehend what has happened; adrenaline kicks in and protects you from feeling anything for a certain amount of time. If you pass away quickly you likely may have been aware of psychological terror, but physically you wouldn't have felt the pain. If you survived, once the adrenaline and shock has worn off, the pain would be acute.
This is contrary to the PCA. Also if Xana put up ‘a heck of a fight’ there is no way Dylan didn’t hear the whole thing. She certainly has some explaining to do. Same with Bethany. I live in a wooden house and people just walking upstairs is noisy much less someone fighting for their life. The only explanation I can think of at this point would be that the survivors were drugged
How are 4 people murdered so brutally and no one hears anything??!!!!
I believe the girls on the top floor were killed in the dark possibly sleeping and frozen in fear/all happened so fast or first stabs were to the throat/lungs so they couldn’t make noise then DM woke up in a sleepy state to hearing the whimpering/male voice etc. But just sort of dismissed it.
Police said the killer drove by the house 3 or so times before parking and going in. The killer had to see all the cars parked out front so he probably had an idea who was in the house.
But if you believe what they say about him you would believe that he stocked them and knew what cars should be there. This isn’t adding up.
Not if he knew they were in the practice of walking instead of driving to their drinking destinations lol
This is why they said one of them fought. Xana’s fingers nearly cut off from fighting.. Wow.
💔💔💔
I couldn’t believe how quickly he did all this!! 4 beautiful young lives! RIP 😢
I know. A killing frenzy is all I can say.
Wasn't quick, that's the point
Aprox. 8 minutes….It was incredibly fast and weird. How……?
HE? Did a JURY already give a GUILTY verdict? Didn't think so.
@@anakarenina9403 It took longer than that. The timeline is all wrong. But keep in mind, once you slash a person's neck, they can no longer scream, so they are out for the count, they're dead, and your job is done.
How can this be accurate whenever everyone is under a gag order?
Isn’t there a ban on all information? It’s a pretty large spanning ban of any speculation or reporting How and why are you still reporting?
Xana was awake and struggled, cried maybe screamed and the two roommates spared heard nothing?
DM heard it all, no doubt in my mind.
@@joshfallen8069 i wear my air-pod most of the time, she might had it on
Stop. Leave her alone
And called a bunch of sorority kids over before the police a bunch of 🤡 sad that's what will run this country in the future
It is hard to believe that Xana wouldn't have screamed or shouted out seeing Ethan being slashed?
My guess is kohlberger stabbed xana once then finished off Ethan then returned to finish off xana
This would then make sense because Dylan heard whimpering and heard a male say it's ok I'm gonna help you
I don’t think they were collateral damage. The more we actually know the truth, the more sickening it will be. My heart breaks for these young people.
I agree. I think the murderer knew that either the girls would be in the house or the girls plus Ethan would be there and he was prepared for either scenario. So scary and sad.
if xana was alive and fought back like that then how did dylan not here that…
How do you know she didn’t hear it?
@@atheistbewildered2987 beat me to it. I think it would make sense that she did hear it, cracked her door open but didn’t walk out of her room and immediately went into freeze state. Hence why no phone call was made. In so many other cases, a victim will go into shock for hours, and are too scared to even move in case the perp is still in the house. So many questions and I hope in a few months to a year we will gain more understanding of what these kids went through.
Probably barred out
I think Dylan is the killer
probably fingernail scratches on Brian's arm from that defense,,,, she fought for her life and I bet they find DNA under the fingernails. last act of brilliance
If someone snores in the next room, even that can be heard in these old wooden homes. Two people struggling for thier life is not a silent affair. It is very mind boggling.
@Meghan M. struggle and dying moans sound very different from usual noise, you'd know if you heard. your comment is not as clever as you think it is.
Drives me bananas when she interrupts the experts.
Hard to believe how clueless the roommate was about what was happening all around her
she had to have heard screams...impossible to picture them being killed and not yelling for help or pleading for their lives. seems off to me. will we ever know? who knows?
The sounds she reported were corroborated by a camera in or near the house she heard whimpering and a loud thud! And then She thought she heard the roommate playing with the dog. And then "sick face killer say don't worry, I'm going to help you" though I don't think that part was caught on the camera. It seems unbelievable but when you live in a house and your used to a lot of loud sounds and your tired and possibly intoxicated....I don't know I don't think this happened the way we All imagine and this sicko got lucky that it wasn't louder though that may have saved the other 2 from dying as well so I hate to think otherwise!
Hmmmm 🤔 are we still not allowed to be suspicious about the roommate, or is that still " victim blaming"?
There's no way in hell if it happened that way did the roommate not know something crazy out of the norm was happening and than she still came out of her room see a stranger walking around in her house?! than go back in her room to scared to call 911?!?!
Come on. Come on! COME ON!!!!
I don't know, man, this whole case is so dam bizarre!!
There's no way she wouldn't call 911.
No way, Nope, huah, can't be true!!
She ain’t clueless. I’ve said from the beginning, she is involved or knows more. Smfh
@@mikebarrios3269 it's called "survivor blaming"
I though that there was a gag order on people discussing this case.
After learning more about this crazy story It’s really hard to believe that none of the 2 surviving roommates had no clue about what was going on during the murders …
Trauma response and/or being “wasted” after a night of parting is a tricky minx
If Ethan was lying on the ground and the door was open … she lied OR Police didn’t us tell the truth. Why?
@@kaylaread8048 I'd sue your ass for libel defamation so fast your head spinning would be an understatement. Screw you for publishing unfounded baseless claims! Shame on you!!!
It’s just too weird.
because you are projecting your benefit of hindsight into the situation. How did DM know what was going ? So far we have no evidence that suggests she KNEW what happened as it happened.
How I wish Ethan was armed, able and willing to use it.
wouldnt of changed anything, 2 of them would of died anyways.
If he simply shut and locked the door and called 911, he and his GF would be alive
@@atheistbewildered2987 I am afraid it all happened so fast and i believe its reasonable to assume Ethan may have been enebriated
Everyone was at least drunk and stoned there that night/morning
@@atheistbewildered2987 some outside doors are solid wood or reinforced. Most inside doors are maybe 1/4 inch thick with one by one pieces of wood around the outside edges with maybe one or two other braces down to the center somewhere. One point holding the door shut and maybe 3/4 inch round sticking in the door frame usually less than half an inch. Oh well I am 5 ft 9 in and weigh almost 200 lb I can kick in almost any outside door with not much effort. Unless it's braced where the locks are. Basically push open locked interior doors destroying the door itself. They are made for honest people if they have locks on them in the house. Or somebody is aware enough to put a solid door and possibly another bolt or two on it that help hold somebody out in an emergency situation. Ethan went out because he heard commotion going on and turned around and basically came almost face-to-face with the perpetrator and ran back in and managed to lock the door somebody pursuing him with his adrenaline flowing would walk right through that door. I've got five daughters ranging from 13 up to 35. Each one of them how to used firearms and have bought most of them one. But I'm not even sure if that would save somebody in that situation I always tell them if somebody's trying to get in the house to shoot through the door. Don't wait till they get in to make you a victim. This case Haunts me I hope to God they get everyone involved and put each one of them to death.
What difference does it make if they were slashed or stabbed? She gets on my nerves
Psychological profile most likely
Banfield is awful. Shouldn't have interviewed xana's mom in such a vulnerable state. No more Banfield. No more newsnation.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Dylan didn’t hear Xana & Ethan being viciously attacked literally right outside her bedroom door especially with the two putting up such a fight. She herself stated she was was awoken at 4am and opened her bedroom door 3 times between 4am & 4:25. So that means to me she was listening & on high alert. Impossible to not hear such violent attacks like that!!!
She saw a masked person leave her house and never checked on any roommates till 8 hours later?!? Never called the police after locking her door for them to come check? But before that opened her door three different times. 🤦♀️ who is frozen in fear for that long instead of trying to act ffs? Literally any action on the phone or in her own home. She had to have seen the bloody knife that he obviously took with him since he left the sheath upstairs in his hand.
She was probably very drunk or maybe on drugs and when you’re in that type of stupor, it’s hard to distinguish reality from fantasy. She was probably trying to make sense of what was going on and probably ended up passing out.
Right? And a camera from another house picked up whimpering, the dog barking and a loud thud but no one in the house heard? I don't believe it. I hope they pull cell phone records and web history for the two girls left uninjured.
@@girlloveshemp642 very convenient that the entire twenty minute things were going down though she could open her door three times and think just by locking her interior door that she’d be good to go. No. Self preservation has to come in to play and anyone knows how easily and interior door lock can be picked or kicked in. Not buying that she was coherent enough before that but then got the spins and locked her door and went to sleep. 🙄 I’m really sick of all these excuses for this grown women from the media and now given a pass and repeated media narrative by so many as to why she waited 8 hours.
It wasn't on the same floor. The two girls were on the third floor, Xana and Ethan on the second floor and the two remaining surviving individuals, on the first floor.
Such a terrible way to go. They didn’t deserve that.
Yeah, I think it's one of the worst ways. Especially if they were awake.
You can’t believe anything you hear until it comes out in the coroner’s report, affidavit and discovery at trial.
Exactly 💯 👍🏻
No kidding. So much conflicting information
Yeah her ‘source’ contradicts the official police report (affidavit). Hmm, really wonder who to believe…
So much for the gag order.
Common sense: with what we know now; the coroner and police were purposely being vague, general and outright misleading purposely to the media. It wasn’t long after the brutal incident (trying not to type words that would get this deleted); that they had BK in their sight and I don’t know of any laws that say the coroner or investigators are required to give all accurate details to media. If they knew about him, his background, his likely knowledge of procedures-keep in mind that survey he did; don’t you think it makes more sense that they’d put things out to throw him off?
if it was all him alone he did it before
Sorry for the family's loss Ethan
If Xana fought BCK in the doorway of her bedroom then there’s got to be more than enough evidence for the prosecution team!
that is why brian had fingernail scratches on his right forearm when he was pulled over in Indiana, I bet
@@anomaliesandtherealdeal sounds logical to me.
The description on the affidavit was that Xana was in her bedroom, on the floor and she was the first body seen by the police, and then Ethan's body was described to be inside her room (it doesn't state if he was on the bed or the floor)
So then why are you speculating with non-factual information?
yea i’m pretty sure it’s been stated ethan was in the bed and it’s only been confirmed xana was awake cause of her phone activity history
I thought that Ethan was in bed with the cover on because it said that his injuries weren’t visible on scene. I guess they could also not be visible if he’s face down. But, I know 100% it says that Xana is the first person whose seen. So, I don’t buy this version.
@@Sassyglbeauty yea i think news outlets are just making stuff up to keep the story going. i heard ethan was in the bed as well. he was most likely asleep and why there was no noises or s screaming. xana probably found ethan and went into shock and started crying and bryan killed her immmediately after seeing her
@@samma9831 I find it so humorous how they vilified the social media community because of the wild speculation of who did this (before the arrest)…. Yet, there is a literal gag order …. So, now they r trying to create hysteria from any little piece of info that comes out. When, anyone who has investigative knowledge shouldn’t be talking PERIOD. I won’t even read the 2nd part of that article - because it sounds like a horror story. Idk. Just seems gross.
Oh except Ethan was heard screaming on the camera. So maybe not in bed.
Funny how these two guest Describe a horrific killing with struggles that would entail a lot of gut wrenching screams…and yet no one addresses the fact that DM did not hear the screams for help being on the same floor.
I bet Bryan took photos of the house on the times he was checking it out and when
Of course! You don’t even need to confirm this for us to know! If DM heard a male voice saying: it’s okay, I’ll help you; and Xana crying, it’s definitely the killer saying to Xana: “don’t cry over your boyfriend, I’ll help you to be with him by killing you too”
Perverse, sick, but after all the crimes we’ve been exposed to, is easy to put 1+1 together!
All this commotion and the roommates heard nothing? Something is off here
Majorly off.. 💯
No one has said they heard nothing. DM heard crying, presumably Xana's, and the attacker saying something like "I'm here to help you."
@@joralemonvirgincreche Im going with the latter
This is making me more angry at the fact that Dylan didn't call 911 for almost 8 hours!
Only the killer knows where he was killed, that is why they didn't want to tell the public!
If xana fought back then how did no one hear her? It's still so confusing.
Never ever couldnt the OTHER roommates NOT hearing this horrific act!! The Neighbour did!! So sad😢
Absolutely 💯
Lies. Straight up. Look into Moscow pd holy crap !! There are specific details if wellness call but white Dr. But this is 5 pm then nearly ten min later someone asking where dig is at the shelter. How would anyone kw well Maddie was gonna tell DM to stop dealing. Swear. So bidycam shows well we were tohs a nutty story. But it was a party home so why the hell a cop ...who transportrd Murphy. This is crazy. When did they get Access!!?! All tell u ...way later then we may think. Bk was in drugs. So where they. It pinged off tower. Nope I'm confused cuz Kaylee wasn't supp to get there but it was
Sounds like more arrests should be coming. These ppl didn't die silently.
This is what men naturally do when they need to defend their girlfriend or the house! It was his instinct to protect Xana or the other women since he was the only man in that house. Ethan probably did whatever he could to stop the perpetrator & the sad part was he was at the wrong place at the wrong time! 😰💔
What about shutting the door? He might have attracted the perp to their presence
@@atheistbewildered2987 We still don't know exactly what happened at that house! What if Ethan heard something & only looked outside the door to see what's going on? So easy for you to say to just lock the door but what if this happens to you?! What if the intruder/perpetrator is in your home & goes towards your room? Are u just going to hide under the bed hoping that nothing happens to you or will you try to defend yourself or your home if they try to attack you?
@@atheistbewildered2987 I get the feeling this all happened in seconds. If Xana said someone is here as she was on tik Tok. Woke Ethan and he went to peek.. that would be seconds to Ethan being attacked. Drunk, groggy, not expecting this versus a planned killer sober, armed and ready. I personally think Ethan was found in the bed. Whether a struggle occurred and he landed there is possible but he ended up in the bed as the PCA said as well as the bloody mattress we saw leave the house.
I don’t know why but since the beginning of this horrible tragedy, I’ve said, “It’s going to be found that Ethan was/forever is a hero.”
There truly is *something* unique/special about Ethan’s smile ( perfect name for the tulips honoring his smile). You can see the light and kindness inside him externally- in his smile and his eyes. His entire countenance was bright.
He was a true young man- he instinctively felt the responsibility to get up and protect a home full of young women. Sadly, it was another young man that preyed on that home because it was full of young women.
We have a hero and a real villain in this true story. And both will forever be remembered as such.
Why is this information coming out? Is this going to hurt the case?
This other roommate who opened her door 3 times has to be the most selfish person on the planet. No girls I knew in school would just do nothing, they would have run to the other rooms as soon as he left but nope
Judge not that you be not judged!
The door dash came at 4:00 am ,so they were both awake most likely.
Nah. He wasn't sure Ethan was there or not. He's a coward that went in to kill 3 small women. He wouldn't have chosen to fight Ethan if he'd known.
The more I hear about this case the creepier it gets. I cannot imagine what those poor kids went through that night. They must have had extreme terror and fear. This evil person who I will not even call by name because he does not deserve that is a complete psychopath!!!
Ok. Yea you sound like an idiot. Go back to work and pay your taxes
He sabb 😢
And STILL that one survivor DIDNT CALL ANYONE TIL NOON THE NEXT DAY!?
They didn't hear no screaming? Come on!!
IF this is true, you’d think that poor girl would be screaming putting up a fight and then the fingers…omg that is hard to hear. So sad
a person can't scream with the neck injury they mention
@@henmaidstale Ethan had the throat slash right?
I don't know if that has been released, but doing it stealth mode at 4am and keeping them quiet had to have been a priority for BK. So gruesome, can't even understand how a person could do that unprovoked. 😔
I think kholberger stabbed xana once to silence her then finished off Ethan then came to finish off Xana .This is consistent with Dylan hearing whimpering and male voice saying it ok I'm gonna help you.Xana was whimpering bc he had stabbed her once already
Man, this is so sad. These beautiful people did not deserve to die. Sounds like Ethan was leaving his room because of the noise upstairs, so BK attacked him, then Xana who was clearly awake because she was still eating and going thru her phone. I am still shocked that there was no screaming or yelling, maybe because of the sheer shock of what was happening or maybe being still drunk if they had imbibed a lot that night. I pray their souls are at peace and the guilty party is punished appropriately.
Well... these 4(7) did something to attract some real bad into their lives. And the talk of drugs here there n everywhere... of ONLY FRIENDS $ for sex.... they were living life full out in the fast lane. And it caught up to them.
the roomate has sais she heard xana crying in her room which made her check the hallway
@@grcamm2992 I'm not so sure we can count on everything the roomie said, to be true..;(
I doubt her.
If so, its purty cringe-worthy to hear...
Those details. So deeply touching...
The nearby house confirmed there was the noise of people and the dog barking, so it isn't the case that there was no noise.
@@Lucienne-zz1sw that's confusing, isnt it?
Noise? No noise?
Xana would have been screaming blue murder when she saw Ethan being attacked. Can’t understand how Dylan heard nothing. She could of at least called the cops for a welfare check.
That is so heartbreaking . This whole story is heart breaking 💔 prayers for Xana and all the victims
Ashleigh seems to want to be a cop. I thought she was a journalist. She centers her own views.
Yeah, I don't know what Banfield is trying to prove here. Attacking the police and now the coroner...to what end?
Ashley is an attorney - so she knows the law.
@@dianabraley8307 where did she study? The school needs to be canceled LoL
@@dianabraley8307 but she’s not the story. Here she is the show host.
Hey Banfield, why do you keep jeopardizing this case? Want him to walk?
This makes it weirder with the surviving roommate....
It's so sad, and so horrible. Men killing women. The story of America.
I'm freaking amazed what some people can sleep through.
You will wake up if your child whimpers in her sleep, or your hubby stops breathing.
But when YOU are retching and shivering and moaning for a couple of hours with your head in the toilet, and your husband and children on the other side of the wall; then they'll sleep through all of it.
And the next day they blame YOU, because you're not doing all the things they think that you should have done, or should be doing.
That's how the public is treating Dylan.
Like she was supposed to sacrifice herself and save them.
They weren't doing anything to save her, either.
Ashley - you are reading too much into the coroners comments... Im a physician.. they are very non committal. She was answering your questions with as little information as possible. She was dodging your questions. She was talking to the media and it was odd that she was interviewed at all.
I don't like being cut off at the end of each Barnfields .
And no one heard anything?
They shouldn’t be broadcasting this information and show respect for the victims and their loved ones.
I figured w Xana and Ethan that he'd attacked Ethan first. I can't imagine he'd attack the female first in front of the male and fight them both off simultaneously. Figured the males fought it out and she saw it all, was crying, the killer did the creepy "I'll help you" viewing it as a mercy in his twisted killer mind. Sickening.
if Xena called for food at 4am them she was definitely awake
The danger of over-analyzing is that the victims won’t get the swift justice they deserve from evil Kohberger.
I had figured xana was last, with Ethan going upstairs to see what was going on
there must have been a lot of noise screaming/ shouting coming from the victims. i find it hard to believe nobody heard anything with this info.
I hope the victims will get their justice. This case have been so confusing and even authorities were not really certain of what might have really happened. Media should at least stop reporting anything that might come just for the sake of bringing up something for the general population. It's heart breaking to hear that almost every day there's different versions of the events that occured that night.
Ok then don’t follow the case since it’s heartbreaking for you 🤦🏽♂️
No one talking of the fact that survivers did not call the police first but called their University seniors .......were they covering something up?
And nobody heard that? Very strange
So using common sense if Xana did put up a hell of a fight. How did Dylan and the other housemate not realise how serious this was? That 8hr delay bugs the hell outta me. The whole case stinks
If it was a so-called party house, with people in and out, it does make sense. If you have not lived in that situation before you wouldn’t understand.
@@karendavenport2766 But i have lived in that situation a 3 floor party house students etc. I agree people coming and going is a common thing. But that 3rd floor house of theirs is tiny in height compared to the one i lived in. And if people were being rowdy you could hear it. Maybe alcohol played apart and anyone sleeping would of been easy targets. Also your explanation of a party house is flawed. Why then did DM freeze with fear? Cus youre implying they are used to people coming and going. And still doesnt explain 8hr delay?
@@desd1932 I see your point! Thanks
Yep, 8hr delay and calling friends to come over prior to 911 call? Something is off.
I feel so bad these kids went through this. There had to be yelling and screaming going on. I always think of when Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were murdered and neighbors heard yelling and arguing. There had to be loud yelling, screaming and crying going on, I doubt any of them went in silence. Unless they were asleep. And Dylan said she heard Kaylee awake.
I was sleeping deep around 2am and my mom felt and held onto a TV table in her room, made a loud noise from the fall (not even screaming from her) - and that woke me up and I ran to the door and get to her room (right next to mine) within like 6 seconds. I understand that their rooms are not next to each other, but man… you get 4 ppl murdered in the house and you can sleep through all that is hard to believe…
@@terrie001 I agree!!! It’s baffling to me.
@@terrie001 interesting that according to the affidavit the neighbour's security camera recorded sounds of muffled voices, a dog whimpering, and a thud. no mention of screams, yells, cries.
Nicole wasn't screaming when she was murdered. Her throat was slit so deep she was almost decapitated. If these kids were killed the same way, there wouldn't have been much noise.
@@trishna_6815 yes! I forgot about that. You’re right.
How many more times are these stories going to change before this guy goes to trial. Sounds like his defense is going to have a field day with these discrepencies.
Please stop blaming the surviving roommates for anything. You have no idea what they went through. Blame Bryan the evil doer himself for horrifically snuffing out the lives of four young people.
Just absolutely sad.
this makes the 8-hrs 911 unconscious call really fishy. hope we get more theory on that more than the "froze in fear " explanation