Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 Ten years on - What’s it like as a used adventure bike buy? (31).
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- Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 should you consider one as a used bike if you’re in the market for an adventure bike? This is my experience of my Tenere at 10 years old. In my opinion it has to be one of the best kept secrets in heavyweight adventure bike history, value for money power & reliability and well featured for its day.I have owned many enduro and adventure bikes over the years from lightweight (up to 300 cc) and middleweight (400 to700) and of course heavyweight (900cc up ). This is not supposed to be a comparison with the latest big bore adventure bikes but an option for those not wanting to spend the big bucks, it’s rather long so make a coffee sit back hopefully enjoy the video. I hope this helps with your search for your getaway machine, thanks for watching. Cheers..
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Yamaha got the bike so right, from day one, bulletproof.
Great review. I believe the XTZ is truly one of the most under-appreciated, under-rated and misunderstood bikes out there. I rode nothing but heavy Yamaha v-twin cruisers until I traded my Stratoliner 1900 for a 3 year old 2017 XTZ with only 2700 mi. (4345 km). I could not be happier. I use mine mainly for touring, but it's so great to know that if I run out of pavement I can just keep going. The other thing I really appreciate is how easy this bike is to service. I tried just one oil change on my Strat and gave up, never did it again. The XTZ is simple by comparison. Seems to me the guys that knock the XTZ are trying to ride it like a dirt bike on single tracks and that's just not what these are designed for. I'm a firm believer in the right tool for the job and this bike does all I ask of it and does it well.
Here Here you have hit the nail on the head, these bikes fit what they are designed for perfectly. Glad you enjoyed the video, cheers. Steve 👍🦘
Yeah it’s a great bike, even the valve adjustment isn’t to hard. The ABS by pass mod is my favorite thing I did to it.
I'm on my second ST. My first was a very basic machine that I rode from southern Indiana to Newfoundland, Canada via 1100 miles of gravel across Quebec and Labrador. As much as I loved the machine that long ride taught me the need for cruise control so when I got home, I ungraded to a 2015 ST ES. Just turned over 45,000 miles on it and it has been flawless. I once thought "Honda", but now I'm sure "Yamaha" is a Japanese word for bulletproof. And just fyi, I've never set mine on sports mode, leave it on touring all the time. Oh yes, its a simple thing but the availability at the US Canadian border to flip the panel from kilometers to miles was wonderful. And I get about 46/47 miles per gallon. A truly great bike.
Agree with all you’ve said here Richard, I had to fit cruise to this earlier model. The 2015 also has another balancer I believe to smooth it out a bit. Only KPH here in Aus but I didn’t realise they had the switch option or maybe that’s only in the later model. Cheers mate.
I bought a 2010 XT1200Z two years ago with 40 000 km on the clock.I have done 15 000 kms on it now.A great bike and I love it.Standard services only.A very dependable bike.
got a 2013 tenere and every time i ride it there's a smile on my face, love it,
One of the BEST reviews of this bike! Thank you!
Brilliant video 👍 this is probably the best used bike review I have ever seen 😀
Thank you ,Steve, great review , simply no more praise have to be spoken to this machine.
Thanks Mate glad you enjoyed the video, they are a great mount for sure.
I have one of these and love it. This review was comprehensive and spot on.
Thanks Ryan glad you enjoyed it, always good to hear from owners and to reinforce my thoughts of this (in my opinion) before it’s time bike. Cheers.
Love the Super Tenere! I've gone down the road of switching bikes for this reason and that, going from lightweight dual sports to heavier adv bikes, always trying to find the perfect bike. Eventually, I wised up and came to the conclusion like many others, that THERE IS NO PERFECT bike. But there is a right bike for me... and that's the Super Tenere. I like to go on week-long trips with my brothers every year and that includes plenty of highway to meetup, then the dirt roads and off road, camping... and that kind of all-around stuff is where this bike really shines!
For those purposes, it is more than capable and always reliable.
And that's enough for me.
Thanks JR glad you enjoyed the video, yes I had plenty of bikes but it’s hard to top the good old Tenere.👍
Love your back tyre analysis, 🤣🤣👍
Excellent video, than you for taking the time to record and post it. Packed with great information.
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed the video my purpose here was to help those wanting to get into adventure bikes but their budget does not fit new prices, there are so many good used bikes on the market. Cheers Steve.
Hello mate and thanks for this review. I already own a Super 10 and love everything about it. I have to say this is by far the best review I’ve watched and your bike for 10 years old looks amazing. This being testament to Yamaha for making such a reliable and robust bike. Love the way your throwing this big ole girl around as well. Thanks 🙏🏽
Amazing review!
i just bought a 10 year old super tenere today because of you
Nice job there Steve! I echo your sentiments on the bike with 10 years on it also. Best all-around bike I've owned in 50 years.
Excellent review!! Thanks man!
Cheers mate glad you enjoyed it.
Best review ever answered all my questions and more
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 👍
Great review I've a 2011 tenere very underrated bike nothing about I would change to
I have to say you have given us a truly awesome review of your bike and this bike in general.
Brilliant.
I wish other people follow your style of presentation.
Well done
Thanks Brenden , glad you enjoyed it. The big Tenere is a great machine and thanks for your kind words re my review style. I’m currently doing a review on the Honda Goldwing, please feel free to share the review, it all helps to grow the channel. Cheers.
Long since I'd enjoyed such a lengthy, but deservingly so, review, to that I was pinned from start to finish, holding back any other due affair!! Thanks bro, that was sooo good that I'm seriously now considering this intimidating monster over, only fear that I'm hardly near your seemingly veteran quality riding experience!
Thanks very much, always great to hear someone liked the review. Yes the big Yam is intimidating if you let it be, this is the type of bike you grow into over time. It’s big, heavy, powerful, fast etc etc.Slowly but surely it all comes together to the extent that you don’t even think about it’s size, there were a lot of maneuvers that unfortunately I couldn’t show on camera but let’s just say this can be a very exiting bike to ride. Cheers.
Best review I've seen on my beloved bike! I've owned my used 2015 SuperTenere ES for 32 months and have traveled about 34,000 miles on it, paved and gravel, solo, and with pillion. I've averaged about 46mpg with an ecu mod for increased power and smoother throttle response. I've replaced the drive hub seal, mode switch, front brake switch, and fork seals. 60,883 on the odometer now, needs nothing. What a fantastic machine! I've ridden countless bikes and have not found one that suits my big self better. I'm 6'4" 250lbs. A custom saddle and bar risers made it fit me perfectly. I'm comfortable for 10 hours a day. *125mph and still pulling hard, I've read (on a closed course in Mexico).
This bike has taken me, problem free, around Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and British Columbia. I can maintain it myself without devaluing it. It prefers Rotella and does fine on regular unleaded. I might replace it someday if a new SuperTenere appears with updated features. Until then, this is my bike!
Great to see you’ve had such a positive experience with your ST, they are a fantastic machine. Perfect for the type of riding you do, fuel efficient, comfortable & stable on the long hauls. I’m yet to run into a ST owner that has nothing but positive things to say about these motorcycles, enjoy your ride and thanks for the feedback. Cheers for Aus.
Great review I am 58 his bike is a great price all the gear thanks very much
Stay safe Cheers
Great review : ) i have seen many reviews this is one of the best i have seen . Thanks .Russ from Central Queensland
Thanks Russell 👍
Great review there buddy. I bought my Super 10 new in 2014 and LOVE it as well. Never let me down and does everything well.
Cheers Caz glad you enjoyed the video, always good to get feedback from other owners 👍
Great review, answered everything. Thank you!
Cheers Andrew, thanks glad you enjoyed it.
This was informative and entertaining. From the UK, what a great video! Thank You.
Thanks glad you liked it, always great to hear from the UK 👍
Another great review! I have a 2016 Super Tenere that I use mostly for long distance touring. It’s comfortable, powerful, and it handles like a dream. I’m looking forward to riding it to Alaska this summer. Thanks for a great review!
Cheers mate thanks, wish I was doing the ride with you 👍
Excellent, calm, considered, intelligent review...................... experience our best teacher................ thank you................
Thanks MB glad you enjoyed the video and yes it’s earned it’s position as an adventure bike. Find one that has a good service history and hasn’t been abused it should last another 10 years.👍
Hi there, wonderful review you've done and to you sir, my heartfelt thanks. This video has convinced me to get that Tenere I've been eyeing weeks for, and have just paid my deposit. Cheers mate, ride safe 💪🏽
Thanks Nurul, you’ll love it. Cheers
Thanks for the review!! I love this bike 🤘🏻✨✨
My pleasure, yes they are a great mount for sure👍
fab review thanks uk
My pleasure! glad you enjoyed the video.
Great owner impressions. Thank you. Nice to see a bit of Aus. Hope to visit one day. Greetings from Canada.
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the video, always welcome in Aus 👍
This was the most useful bike review I have seen. Manufacturers should PAY you to review their machines with production quality and narrative this good.
Thanks Matthew glad you enjoyed it, That would be nice to get paid indeed but my objective is to help riders contemplating buying a new (to them) bike. Sadly many reviews I’ve seen see reviewers passing opinion on bikes after spending five minutes riding them, I guess that’s better than nothing but I believe you need to live with the bike/car for at least a week to honestly pass opinion on it. Just my thoughts, thanks for the comment & ride safe. Cheers.
Really good and informative video, this has really helped me develop a very strong interest in the Super Tenere 1200.
Glad it was helpful!
what an unbelievable review... and you're in Australia! I'm looking to get back into riding and are looking to pick one of these up early 2022. I plant to use it for general touring on tarmac and gravel trails around the SW of Western Australia as well as commute to my worksite over 100km away. I look forward to watching more of you videos
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review hopefully I covered most of the things a potential buyer would need to know but feel free to email me if there’s anything else you may need to know about the S10. Cheers.
Awesome review! I was thinking about buying this bike. And after this review I am getting it! Thanks mate :)
Thanks mate glad you enjoyed the video, they are a great mount for the outlay. Try to get one with the electronic cruise if your doing long hauls, they are very comfortable at high speeds but the problem is you tend to get higher & higher without realizing it then ‘🚓 ‘ . Cheers.
super super superTÉNÉRÉ!! Love forever!
I just sold my 06 BMW GS1150 adventure in favour of one of these so I’m happy to hear I’m on the right track. Great review! Thank you.
Cheers Aussie glad you enjoyed it, I had the same BM before the Tenere. Chalk & cheese, you’ll love the 1200.
I just bought one last year and crossed Canada with it. It's a beautiful piece of machinery and wonderfully engineered.
Great stuff, exactly what they were designed for. Well done 👍
A little nervous about when and where the negativity would come, I looked the rewiev to the end.. It never came :-) Couldent agree more, have exactly that year and make of it aswell. A super nice horse of a bike. Thanks for rewiev /Jon in Sweden
Very informative video, I really enjoyed the shots of the bike performing on the dirt great video
Thanks David, glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent review! Good on'ya Sir
Thank you kindly
Our Stateside Super Tenere's are now 10 years old(Gen 1). And of course I have the first year 012. I concur with your review 💯%. It is without a doubt the Swiss Army knife of Adv bikes. And Bang💥for the buck rock solid. Being a Yamaha fan boy, I couldn't be happier with my Big Blue Beast.
Thanks again and Ride safe 🙏. Cheers 🍻, G. In beautiful Boulder City Nv. USA 🇺🇲
Great stuff and yes I agree with your comments both of the Tenere and your part of the world, was lucky enough to play in sand sand there on a DT400 back in 79. It was for the release of the then new 400 two banger, it was in if I recall correctly the dry lake area? (holey moley 44 years ago, now I feel old) Loved it so much I came back to Aus and bought one.Ride safe in that lovely part of the world and thanks for the comment , cheers mate.
Thank you for a great review. I have had my 15 ST for 6 yrs now and I love the bike. I drool over all these new adventure bikes, and I have ridden most of them and I still keep my Tenere. I really love the reliability of the bike. Change oil, tires, air filter, and ride. And yes it chews up the miles. I got the dirt bikes to tackle the technical stuff.
Glad you enjoyed the review & nothing I said in there would have been news to you, as an owner a hidden gem in the heavyweight adventure bikes I’m sure you would agree. Ride safe cheers.
Excellent all round review. Well done to you. Greetings from the UK.
Thank you kindly!
This is an outstanding video and you’ve convinced me to buy a Super Tenere instead of a Triumph Tiger. I can’t believe how great the paint looks after 10 years in the Australian sunshine.
I purchased a used 2017 ES model and I can honestly say it’s been the most comfortable bike I’ve owned. It literally does everything a adventure bike is supposed to do. You will not regret it mate 👍👍
Had my 18 S10 for about 3 weeks and so loving it….Just did a 3 state,2400 mi ride on it with a few dirt road excursions… I think I’m in love….
2018 S10 Great mount well done & bonus you got cruise as std, enjoy your ride 👍🦘
l past my test a week ago, buying a 1200 Tenere tomorrow, just retired from working planning on going from Scottish highlands to Norway for a first trip. l had scrambler bikes as a kid back in the 70's offroad. looked a lots of bikes and this one is so well thought out. thanks for the vid wish l stayed in Aussie you seem to have lots of famous off road trips.
Yes plenty of room here in Aus for adventures for sure, glad you enjoyed the video. Take your time getting used to the Tenere, she’s a big bike. Probably not what I would recommend if you’re just getting back into riding to be honest but if you already have experience just spend plenty of hours getting the feel, it can be a monster if you let it. On the other hand it can be just a just like any other big bike if you’re gentle with the right hand. Enjoy your adventures, I’m a bit jealous I’d love to do that ride. cheers.
Really awesome video. Thanks for providing so much detail and not just reading a spec sheet / riding around town.
Thanks Ben, they are a great old bike for sure 👍
@@standupmoto as an update, I just purchased a '24 S10. Enjoying the break-in and excited about getting some of the kits for it, my wallet is not pleased though.
Top stuff, you’ll love it. The 24 is a well sorted bike, the addition of cruise & and extra balancer (not in the earlier models) makes a great bike even better. Enjoy 👍
@@nsanerydah @ @standupmoto • 2 min ago
Top stuff, you'll love it. The 24 is a well sorted bike, the addition of cruise & and extra balancer (not in the earlier models) makes a great bike even better. Enjoy 👍
Top notch review, really enjoyed that. Just popped up in my youtube feed this morning. A bike I used to love when it first came out, but disappeared off my radar. I will DEFINITELY give it a thought now as looking at the second hand big bike market!
Cheers mate thanks, glad you enjoyed the video & you could do a lot worse than a second hand S10 👍
@@standupmoto maaate... excuse the micky... the BEST review Ive seen even for an aussi... stumbled on your posting looking at tenere700 maybe uprate convertion of tdm900... may look you up when I get over to Aus once theyve tidied up the lockdown bs there... my neighbour's just returned from 2 weeks across the Simpson on his DR650... hes been all over Aus europe & through Africa... think he has a virus i might be getting... old age itches maybe... cheers from NZ
@@Errol.C-nz Gday Errol (Aussie intro) The 700 is a good thing ticks just about every box but if only it had cruise. Also had 4 DRs and loved them never let me down but geeeees the seat sucks on the Suzi, glad you enjoyed the video. Am going to jump the pond one day and do some flying around NZ just have to learn the language 👍.
Really excellent review. Going to buy my 2020 XT ze tomorrow.
Thanks Michael glad you enjoyed it, 2020 model. Great bike, cruise std and a better instrument panel. Enjoy your ride & get used to it before riding heavy terrain, you’ll love it.
A very relaxed and ultra informative review which arguably raises major questions about the obsession with mega expensive modern hyper tourer ADV bikes. Has anybody ever heard of shaft drive probems with the ST12? (**cough** BMW ...)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review and yes the new generation of adventure bikes are extremely expensive. I guess only time will tell re their longevity, not to mention the array of electronics on them nowadays.
I purchased a 2010 XTZ1200 about 4 years ago...I fell in love all over again...S10 had 58,000km when I got her and know 114,00km and hasn't missed a beat.
Great stuff, wow you know how to rack up the kms. Yes they are a great mount, ride safe.
I'm thinking about to get a super Tenere 2013, thanks for all the information. Omw to get that big, I always have been riding cruiser 800cc and some Enduro bikes 400cc this will be my first big bike very excited
Hi glad you enjoyed the video, the Tenere is a great ride. Big powerful & reliable with the ability to travel, I hope you enjoy it. cheers.
Thank you for the video, i have a 2018 Versys 650 and seriously considering a Super Tenere as an upgrade for long traveling
Hi, yes the Tenere is a great bike for long travel. Maybe get a slightly newer version with the cruise control, this 2010 doesn’t come standard with cruise I fitted it. Cheers
Great video and planty of informations.
Thanks Anto, glad you enjoyed the video.
I've just bought a 2024 model cant wait. Only road work and if necessary light trail fire tracks etc.
Well here’s an easy prediction, you will love it. Ride safe.
Great video I've had a mind to buy one for years, now may be the time to start looking seriously at getting one.
Gday thanks and glad you enjoyed the video, yes they are a good ride and compared the current crop of big adventure bikes relatively affordable.
Affordable but better options from Yamaha now
Thank you from a fellow Aussie for making such a comprehensive video!
Hoping to find one of these bad boys around the Los Angeles area for our North/Central America tour next year :)
Thanks mate, you’ll love it. If it fits your budget try to get one a bit later with cruise if that’s your thing, it just makes those long hauls a little more comfortable. A bit envious of your upcoming trip I have to say, enjoy. Cheers.
Thank you so much for your Vid, You're well articulated and very thorough on your detail , Well Done Mate! if you were anywhere near the Rockies I would employ your services for my next purchase.
Thanks Tomas glad you enjoyed the video, the Rockies who knows maybe one day. Cheers
Great review thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Just bought another super tenere (2021) what a great touring beast!
Good review
Thanks Daniel glad you enjoyed it 👍
Spot on
Cheers, thanks 👍
Really great review. Thank you for sharing. I have a KLR. It’s good for what it is and can do. No complaints there. But really been thinking about the ST. Great job !! 👍🏽
Thanks glad you enjoyed the video, I also had the KLR some years ago. The Tenere is a whole new experience in long distance travel, it eats up the miles with ease and seems to get a lot of attention from other adventure riders . You just can’t wait to get back on and ride further, also long steep inclines & head wind issues are a thing of the past with the ST. It doesn’t matter how loaded you are , 1 or 2 up it just blasts past. Try to get yourself a couple of hours on one if you can before you commit but be prepared to fall in love. cheers
I may have to try to find one to test ride. I have a GW for 2up and enjoy the KLR for sgl gravel travel, motocamping and getting to my fave fishing spots with the occasional 2up ride. But I could see the ST doing all of that and still take on some decent 2up hwy riding trips with some considerable comfort. 🤔
Great review dude. Hello from this side of the big pond. Have a 2020 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally that I bought new in 2022 and its and excellent bike. Hope I can have it 10yrs as well. 😊
Cheers mate glad you enjoyed it, keep good synthetic oil in her changed regularly and she’ll last you longer than that. 👍
Thank you for the vid - made my mind on a 2013 XTZ over a 2018 Triumph Tiger explorer.
Current bike is a 2019 Scrambler XE, but it's a chain drive, and I've heard horror stories of one snapping, whipping around and slicing into shoulder blades!
Hi Derek, ouch! I’ve not heard of that but have heard of cracking the crankcase when a chain lets go or locking the rear wheel at the wrong time. Enjoy your ST, they are a great machine & trouble free if you keep good oil in her. Just get used to the bike before you get too spirited, they (like any bike) can bite and turn off that traction control on the dirt, you can just steer these with the back wheel. It certainly gets the adrenaline flowing then just sit back like you’re on a cruiser on the hwy, doesn’t get much better that that. Cheers.
Great review! Picking up my used 2018 S10 in a week. Only regret it’s not the black version with the red lettering.
Thanks Mate glad you enjoyed the video, you’ll love your 2018 and it’ll have cruise std. safe riding.
Professional Review …wow…great voice too!
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for the great review just bought a new one, I test road a few adventure bikes but the Yamaha felt the best to ride.
Great stuff, you’ll love it. The latest as you already know comes with the cruise std and a few other refinements, I know there are a lot of heavy weight adventure bikes out there . Some with more HP some with more high performance suspension etc etc , however I doubt very much that there are many with the Yamaha longevity & reliability and as easy to live with.Congrats on your purchase.
@@standupmoto thanks mate, I had my heart set on a KTM 1290 super adventure S, but after taking the Super Tenere for an hour test ride, I went back and sat on the KTM & realised it wasn't for me, plus the service costs on the Yamaha are half the price. Keep those reviews coming.
Outstanding review mate. I am narrowing my choices and this bike is on my short list.
Cheers mate thanks, I’ve also got an Africa. If you’re looking more at heavier off rd the Africa is probably the better choice but for distances & mild off rd the Tenere, just my thoughts after spending many hours on both.
@@standupmoto I almost bought a 2017 AT but the fork issue has me a bit concerned. And the local dealers are having trouble getting 2024 AT’s…
Yes supply is still an issue with many brands but things are starting to improve.
What a great review. I don't own one but I might after watching this. There's only one thing bothers me and that's the valve service. I do all my own servicing and I know from videos how hard the top end is to access.
Hi Phil glad you enjoyed the video, yes the valve service is a pain but on the positive side after one of these has done 30 k they don’t seem to vary. You pick a crappie riding day and get it done (if it needs doing) .If you ride one be prepared to buy it because you’ll fall in love with it, I came across a guy recently with a 10 model with road tyres on it, he’d had it since new and never been off rd. He just loved the ride so much he used it as a road bike from the beginning. cheers mate.
I bought my ST new in 2014, I part exchanged a BMW 1200GS as I got fed up with the constant problems with it, still have the ST and have no intention of getting rid of it, totally reliable.
Similar situation here, I had the GS then the Tenere. Reliability was a factor in my decision making also, the ST has never faulted.
That’s a sick bike
Thank you very much for the great review.
I am looking to get into adventure biking and this did help a lot. Thank you.
You did not mention anything about servicing and maintenance, and the cost there off .
Also compared to other adventure bikes .... ?
Non the less, thank you again. I enjoyed watching your review.
Thanks Jaco glad you enjoyed the video mate, the Tenere is a big bike as a first adventure bike but I’m assuming your coming from larger capacity road bikes. If your used to smaller capacity bikes I’d go with a 650 or similar for a while to get used to this style of bike, you’ll know what’s right for you. Service costs, I do my own servicing but I’d assume the Yam would be in line with most twin cylinder Japanese bikes. This is an older bike and nothing is to hard to do really, as far as oil (motor & diff) they are easy and accessible including the filters (air oil fuel). Brake fluid change is simple, no special tools really, Pop in a set of platinum plugs and they’ll never need doing again. I guess the only tricky one is the valve clearance but if they’ve been done once or twice in there life according to the service records you’ll probably never have to do them. Seriously this is an easy bike to own. hope this helps mate, cheers.
@@standupmoto , thank you very much for your reply. I really only have ride experience with smaller cc'd motorcycles. However, with the local prices in South Africa of the Super Tenere compared to 600 to 800 cc bikes, it is a no brainer to go for the larger bike with more features for the same prices as a smaller bike.
However, it is a bigger horse ...
I do not plan to go off-road straightaway, but i would love to go touring with other riders. But getting very good advice from very experienced and veteran riders is priceless.
Thank you again.
Yamaha really need to get their stuff together and bring this bike back with new chassis for reduced weight, revised engine with bit more power.
Thank you for the great video. It’s nice to see how different things are down under; we dodge deer, you dodge kangaroos. Subscribed sir, thank you. From Washington D.C. area.
Yes Dan we have very similar circumstances & probably unique to yours and my part of the world. Both animals move fast appear from nowhere it seems and have two hundred plus pounds on their side.
I just bought a 2013 1200, I been riding a Hoda Goldwing for years. I've ridden dirt bikes when I was young. This bike is great for me, I ride it on the road and back country roads and some off road. I think they are a very good bike, good price used, pretty comfortable, simple motorcycle. I love this bike so far.
Couldn't agree more!
Monster bike, I’m getting one in April
Top stuff Steph, keep good fully syn oil in it and change it & the filter every 5000k or 3000 mls (not sure where you are) and it’ll last you a long time. Get used to smiling though, because when you open the tap you just can’t get the smile off your face. Cheers 👍
A very spot on review. You do ride it hard, so did I doing all the hooligan sh*** with the SS crowd while still on the knobies (to their immense surprise), but lately I find und myself in T mode under 4k RPM (to my immense surprise) with 4.7l/100km (ES version with full protection). Basically this is a V8 truck of the motorcycles: rumbles along in dirt at 2-3k, or slides the gravel corners at however fearless you dare. Tons of grunt down low but a is heavy and tiring on the ATV trails (still good for towing DRZs though). Do not even try to man-handle it or it will man-handle you.
Very comfy for long distances, though I didnt take it very far - only about 6k km at most.
Yamaha panniers, grip heaters and windshield are very very meh. 12v is only 3A, so NO pump. That said AWESOME bike for what it is designed for and a few things it is not designed for.
Btw, I find it rides MUCH better with cargo on the seat instead of the panniers (same exact cargo)
Gday Konrad, cheers mate glad you enjoyed the video. It’s always good to hear from other owners & their experiences. They certainly are a great old machine, I guess they were basically the start of the big bike adventure craze in a way. Or at least an early adopter. ride safe👍
I had the first edition just like the one being filmed. After four years I upgraded to the ZE model as you can see in my profile picture. It's a very underestimated bike that never got the recognition it deserved.
Hi Andy, couldn’t agree more. Will be interesting to see if many of the big adventure bikes being sold today are still running strong and reliable in 10 years from now. Cheers 👍
As someone who has experience with both models, do you think the ZE is really a necessary upgrade from the first edition? Did you have a lot of negative experiences with the first edition?
After 3 years and 55000 km I can say this an exzellent and reliable bike to ride. Even sporty. Cornering easyli
Great to hear, ride safe.
South Australia . I am in NSW .
Outstanding review! Well narrated, filmed, edited, all-of-it. Fantastic job.
Just read through the majority of the comments here from other S10 owners and the word RELIABLE/BULLETPROOF/Carefree are rife throughout.
While planning a huge Canadian trip this summer through QC/NL/NS from Maryland, I looked for this kind of mile-crushing, comfortable and BULLETPROOF machine to get me safely there and back. Having seen similar comments for months, I found a 2013 with 10k miles from a dealer I trust completely and started my learning curve on a new bike. Comfort, mileage, handling, quirks, etc. Have ridden less than 500 miles on only a few weekends and got stranded with a shot clutch. Apparently the whole clutch pack is done. Lost a month of riding and cost another $1000.
Crushingly disappointed as my trip is now cancelled and I'm not sure I can now travel far from home without a constant anxiety of WTF else is going to go tits up....
which is the exact opposite of what everyone says and the riding I want to do.
Any comments on whether this is a fluke or if I got the only lemon in the basket of apples?
Gday William, thanks for the kind words re my review but sad to hear you’ve had this issue. Honestly I’ve never heard of this, even with sidecars fitted. I do know a chap here in Aus that had a total clutch failure on his new Africa Twin (new to him, 2 years old) after only a very short time of ownership. As it turned out the previous owner had serviced the bike and put the wrong oil in it, this was creating slip in top gear. Not enough to notice while riding at speed with the wind & road noise but under load in the ranges it was getting hotter and hotter until it failed. Not saying this is what happened in your case but generally the ST is pretty well trouble free, and some of them have been to hell and back. I guess they are starting to get old but looked after they shouldn’t fail, hope this helps.
Wear a tear part...especially if the previous owner was a complete mong...can happen with any bike...sounds like motorcycles aren't for you?
@@williamrae9954
Just finished 10K miles on a 2017 Tiger1200.
I'm good.
TX for great Video. I am considering buying a 2018 model. I have always had BMW R1200GSA but recently crashed my bike so my neighbor want to sell his Yamaha and I have never even looked at it in this way. Worried that the Yamaha will disappoint but not sure. Tx anyway
Thanks Adrian glad you enjoyed the video, the 2018 model has cruise as std (I had to fit it to the 2010) it also has an updated instrument panel. I would suggest see if your friend will let you have the bike for a couple of hours and do a decent ride to feel the bike, that’s what I did back when I got mine. My GS was a great bike but I just found the Tenere to be a bit more agile for my style of riding in the terrain I ride, we are spoilt for choice nowadays and it’s a reasonable outlay so find the bike that fits and go with it I’d say. Cheers- Steve
I’ve ridden this bike and for me the perfect adventure bike is one on a trailer behind a car until you get to dirt, and make your adventure. Otherwise it’s a Toyota landcruiser for rough terrain
Excellent review from a review perspective. Reaaally well covered. Hopeing to get my tenere in 3 weeks time ater 10 years of klr650 riding. Really looking forward to it. After yeaaars of following the market, i think s10's probably highly under estimated in the category. I hope to confirm that very soon.
Thanks for the video!!! Fyi i am actually purchasing a 2010... 😅😁👍🏻
Well done you’ll love it 👍
How’s it works for you ?
Gday Bosveld, did you get the ST? Love to know what you think of it.
I own the exact same bike 10 years old. I did a everything with it. Even raced it against superbikes on twisty roads. It 8s absolutely magic.
A couple of additions on your information. My panniers have inner soft bags. Very handy and beautiful with some leather touches. Air temperature is not actually air but airbox temperature. That is why some people complain about the accuracy. It doesn't show air temperature. Touring mode is good for city or wet riding. Especially when riding in the city. Makew your life easier.
I changed everything to Yamaha LED and head light to xenon, plus many extras. I also put a power commander V with wide band O2 system and a full Yoshimura exhaust plus filter. The engine does 123hp at the rear wheel. Very powerful. As I said in the canyons have nothing to afraid against anyone. Of course a committed fast rider with a Superbike eventually will overtake you but for sure it will have hard time. Plus there aren't many like that. I do ride an R1M, just to let you know my level of riding.
Great stuff & thanks for the additional info, that air temp makes more sense to me now. Yes the lighting needs the upgrade as you’ve done, 123hp at the ground is great. Glad you enjoyed the video and great to see you also have an R1, cheers. Steve.
Why would anyone want to know airbox temp. ?
@@DJPTEXAS To modify fuel maps. And yes you can do that if you know what are you doing.
@@KHIJAPAN Just seems an odd thing to display for the majority of average riders who would have no way of accomplishing that....
@@DJPTEXAS It is a must for the engine ECU but you are right. This issue is for the old model like mine. The newer models are equipped with regular air temperature. I notice that the sensor is the same as my 2022 MT09 SP. I know this because I Tuned the engine and of course I had to take in account engine air temp/air density.
Still ❤️ my ‘13 XT1200Z 👍
Gday , yes it’s hard not to love the mighty ST 👍
Great video, you should do TV, i could listen to you all day, Thanks
Hi Paul thanks for the kind words but somehow I don’t think Mel Gibson has anything to worry about, glad you enjoyed the video..cheers.
I want one
Prefer the Gen1 dash/clocks with the rev counter...bought a 2017 Tracer 900 new,hated the clocks on that,and the next generation are even worse....might have to black out the silver surround though, that would annoy my field of vision! Great, informative video...cheers!
Thanks mate👍
Профессиональное вождение по рыхлому грунту, отличное умение.
Увидел отличную идею, писать пробег при замене масла на фильтре. Спасибо.
Спасибо, рад, что вам понравилось видео, да, запись километров на масляном фильтре была тем, что мой покойный отец показал мне много лет назад. Привет из Австралии
@@standupmoto Привет из Сочи.
Да, наши отцы оставили хорошую память о себе. Думаю они наблюдают за нами сверху и гордятся нами.
Ofcourse on the nice flat open road
This is the most honest and comprehensive review of this amazing bike. However, do you recommend it for a new motorcycle rider (and I mean REAL new rider) to learn on and enjoy it?
Hi, no it’s not a beginners motorcycle. This is a bike that you work your way up to after many years of riding and gaining experience on smaller more manageable machines. I would recommend for a new rider starting with a 250 cc and working your way up with larger capacity motorcycles until you eventually get to the point where you are ready for bikes like the one in this review. Taking a riding course is also a great idea, it teaches techniques, safety and helps you decide what type of bike would suit your needs.
Wow. You really have that preload set soft.
Hi Chris yes I set the bike up really soft nowadays when I’m doing distance on corrugations , I just find it fatigues me less. I’m 60 now and the joints tend to relay 48 years of riding /racing far more than they used to. Cheers.
@@standupmoto I hear you, Brother! I have been playing with my suspension a lot lately and trying to find that sweet spot. Thanks so much for the video!
Great review. I guess you retro fitted the cruise you mentioned?
Thanks glad you enjoyed the video, yes the cruise is aftermarket from MC Cruise. I did a review of the cruise control on my channel, video no 45 if you want to check it out. Cheers.
I started riding on the street about two years ago and I started out with a 1972 Honda cb350f and it is a fun bike but me being 6’5 and about 250 pounds I found it was a bit small and very underpowered so I started looking into something a bit bigger so I started looking into other bikes and I’m really a Honda fan so I looked all over at different ones and didn’t find anything that really fit what I was looking for and all of them were expensive so I abandoned the Honda idea and started looking into others and found the tenere 700 and started searching for them locally and accidentally found the super tenere and instantly fell in love because they were all about $2000 less than the 700 so I ended up finding a 2012 in black with a bunch of add on and low mileage and I’m pretty sure 99% of those miles are just street miles so I bought it and instantly fell in love
I can understand your love affair with the ST, it’s one of those motorcycles that just feels right. Enjoy your ride, keep good oil in it and it’ll last for many years. Thanks for the comment, cheers.
Exceptional review....im in the market for an addition to the stable. Have a bmw k1600b but now want a more adventure type bike. Torn between a gsa...and new 2022 triumph tiger. But sheesh.....I keep coming back to this bike!!!!! Give me a reason to strike it off my list??? What a nice bike!!!!!!
You Sir have a problem, first world one I might add but still a problem. All 3 you have on your list are great bikes with a similar purpose, so let’s break it down. The GSA is a wonderful bike with more features than you can throw a stick at (Aussie saying) also stylish classy purposeful with heaps of grunt , I have an old RT at the moment and previously had an early GS so I do like my Beemers . The Tiger is a good mount also, well featured (a bit down on fuel capacity by memory) and that triple is just so sweet and I owned a Bonnie and loved it, I have a triple in my Spyder and it’s just such a sweet motor . And last but not least the mighty Tenere which you’ve seen my review so I probably don’t need to say anymore, all of these bikes have cruise and are made for a purpose. Something to take on board though is they are all tall & heavy as is of course your K1600 but on that you have reverse ( Gods gift to heavy motorcycles) . If I had to narrow it down it would be between the GSA & the mighty Tenere because of their longevity and availability of accessories etc but after that your on your own I’m afraid, I’d love to hear which way you go. Thanks for watching, cheers. Steve.
@@standupmoto thanks for the input and thoughts! Will definitely keep you posted!!!
@@standupmoto ....your opinion on the triumph, are you basing it on the NEW 2022 exploere gt? That's what I would be looking at....not the 2021. Just curious.
Iv only ridden the 21 we haven’t seen the 22 Downunder yet, is the 22 a Thai built machine? Not that it probably matters nowadays with things being built all over the world, it’s just that I’ve had such a good run over the years with Japanese & German built bikes with reliability and accessories that I tend to lean towards them.
I really wish Yamaha would come out with a new version, would be so cool.
Yes it’s been a while for sure, the later versions have cruise & an additional counter balancer , more nowadays dash but very little else. I have heard a 1250 complete new version is in the wind for 2023, supposedly looking like a big brother to the 700.
@@standupmoto really? That’s great, hope it will be a lot lighter than the old one, but please Yamaha keep the shaft drive.