True but Garak always seem to hide a metaphor or a hidden true in his stories. You learn about him by looking how he lie. And he definitively like eating with Bashir. This at least was obvious.
Yes, but he said that after literally bombing his own shop because he's such a well-known liar that no one would believe him if he just said, "there's an assassin after me." He possibly said it out of annoyance that Bashir might have a point.
@@ApocalypseNext to be fair if he would have just said it as a question like "I think someone is trying to kill me, could you verify that for me" instead of blow up is shop or just saying it, that would have work, that not a lie as its a question and a question that even Sisco wouldn't ignore out of curiosity
The true lesson of the fable is that you should not appoint people you distrust to a position of responsibility. The child dies and the flock is lost because the moronic adults left him in charge of the livestock after having decided they wouldn't respond to the call for help he is specifically tasked to give in response to wolves.
It really seems like he stretches that 20 so far until not even the bonus can help him with his outlandish inquiries. I think he wants to get past that 20 cap somehow.
Imagine a version of Jack Sparrow as a space pirate. Free booting and plundering in the wild triangle between the Federation, Romulan, and Klingon Empire borders. Imagine An encounter between Garak and Jack at Quark’s bar. Would they hit it off famously? Or immediately distrust each other? Or... BOTH!! 🤣🤣🤣
I think that's my favourite bit of Garak dialogue in the entire series. "Even the lies?" "ESPECIALLY the lies." God, he's such a well-written character and Andrew Robinson's performance is just...perfect.
If there was any more proof why DS9 was the best show, Garak, Nog and Kai Wynn are side characters. Every time they are on screen they steal the screen every time.
@@LancerJak yeah, it’s crazy. they do so much with everyone - you can absolutely tell the writers gave a shit about every single character and making their relationships to each other and the world around them make sense and progress throughout the seven seasons. it’s just so good.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg He didn't start out main cast, I agree, but definitely by the time the Dominion War began he was THE Cardassian angle, and thus immensely important as Gul Dukat shifted from Rival to pure Antagonist. And in the end it wasn't just Garak's redemption, but how that journey was echoed by Cardassia itself. That was always a strength of Star Trek as a series, was how sometimes minor, background characters could shift to the forefront. Sometimes (Like Garak) they even stayed there.
@@Jokie155 Claustrophobia is by definition not rational, so expecting it to follow rational logic is not either. I have extremely mild claustrophobia, and I've at times had more trouble with larger spaces I wasn't able to leave, than actual small spaces... I'd say it's mostly about the sensation of feeling trapped than the actual amount of space... Put me in a fairly large elevator and I'm more likely to have a problem than if I'm stuck in a cramped closet... It's just not that simple...
@@key539 that's a new one to me, thanks! I have a dislike for being in places where I'm not able to move freely, like if I can't move my feet or legs, or if I can't turn my head. Caving (or potholing, or spelunking) is definitely not for me. It's not a fear, but I feel like it could become one given some bad circumstances.
@@Milamberinx phobias usually come from a need to have control. someone with claustrophobia doesn't really hate tight places as much as they hate places they can't leave at their leisure, on the stairs you can turn around, choose which side you climb on etc. you have complete control over the situation, on an elevator you're stuck in there until the machine decides to let you out and not being able to go: "I am leaving NOW!" is scary to some people. i have a similar thing, i rarely drive to a party or something with other people, i will drive myself so i can leave on my own terms and if i didn't bring my own car i'll sooner walk home than to wait until the designated driver decides it's time to leave.
bashier see garak has secrets to hide just he has so they have something in common that's what made there friendship work so well each has his lies to hide secrets
In non cannon they got married. Even the actors did a reading of a script you can youtube. The actors wanted the characters to head that way in the show but it was the 90's and the producers were like NOPE.
@@Grimmers True, not every close historical friendship between same sex folks needs to be reexamined through "Sappho and Erinna" lenses. But in this case, the actors DID approach the characters as two people flirting and stuff. So it's not a retcon for them to be married in a fan fic but an "un erasure".
I just noticed that while Siddig always looks straight at whatever he's focused on, Robinson keeps looking to either side. While it comes across as casual, and it could easily be a personal quirk of the actor, I can't help but think that he's playing Garak as always slightly on the alert for an attack.
He constantly scans his surroundings. It could be a deliberate affectation to give the appearance of a hunted character, or it could be that Robinson is actually paranoid and doing it unconsciously.
Could be both! In the series 'The Blacklist', James Spader always tilts his head when he talks. I thought this was a quirk of his character who is quite like Garak, always telling the wildest stories with a smile on his face and you're never certain whether he's telling the truth. But then I saw a short clip of James Spader in 'Boston Legal' and he tilted his head in the exact same way when he spoke.
I've been lucky to meet Andrew Robinson twice and he always looked straight at me... 😅 The sideways eyes are what is known in the trade as good acting. Good spot though 👍
I love how much effort DS9 put into making the random extras walking through the background look freaking awesome. Nearly every episode has at least one spectacular costume or prosthetics job in it, from a character with no lines who didn't need to be there at all. And this was a show with constant budget cuts!
Star Trek, the "what cool alien costume do we have legal rights to and how much are we allowed to pay someone to wear it for ten minutes?" franchise of the film industry. I have seen Slestaks from Land of the Lost, Dracs from Enemy Mine, New Comers from Alien Nation and I know there a tons I am missing because I have never seen the shows or movies.
HAHAHAHA Babylon 5 was pushing out it's brilliance with about a 1/4 of the budget. Majel Roddenberry herself stated that, and pointed out the brilliance of what they were doing with such limited resources.
Morn was the main character in an episode and he was barely in it. Him and his blabber mouth, and beating Worf on the holosuite. Fracking Morn. That guy....
"Especially the lies," says that you can learn more about who Garak is by his lies than by the truth you might learn of him. Beautiful scene. I could watch this episode a dozen times just for the Bashir & Garak scenes. They're delightful.
LIES are told for a reason, which tells you something. People tell the truth is they don't have a reason to lie. Thus, the lies tell you more than the truth. However, Garak lies casually about almost everything, so that you can't pick out any one lie to ascertain a motive behind it.
I always loved their conversations, but felt that Dr Bashir was a bit out of his depth with Garak. Dr Bashir was very smart, but not terribly worldly or attuned to certain nuances and subtleties that Garak considered normal conversation.
he smiled when he said it, but “especially the lies” actually points to his deep seated guilt and confused loyalties. elim being a friend turned enemy was a lie, but it was also very true.
Think of Elim as a part of Garek. Garek is the separate part from within Elim. Now it makes sense. He's conflicted. Fighting with himself as to who he is. Elim is the more cutthroat personality. Garek is the tailor. It's like saying I killed Bob to save Robert. You would think those are separate people, but no. They are the one and the same. Killing off a personality. Anakin being murdered by Darth Vader.
Captain Sisko : Who's watching Tolar? Garak : I've locked him in his quarters. I've also left him with the distinct impression that if he attempts to force the door open, it may explode. Captain Sisko : I hope that's just an impression. Garak : It's best not to dwell on such minutiae.
The relationship between them is the reason Andy Robinson got the part. Apparently, the writers had no idea what to do with Bashir, who was young, idealistic, naive and getting lost in the episodes. Siddig said that Rick Berman was constantly having to vouch for his continued existence on the show to producers. So they decided that Bashir needed a companion and made Robinson come out to audition (an audition he almost blew off because they made him endure 3 previous auditions for Odo before choosing Rene Aubergonois for the part.) His wife essentially forced him out the door because he needed a job and he did the audition with such charisma that I don't think they even auditioned anyone else. He was expecting to do one, maybe two episodes. The idea was to see if they clicked, if the chemistry was there. That very first scene, Robinson played up Garak's open attraction to Bashir and once said, "...there's this scene where you'd swear that Garak was ready to eat him." Both actors were game for a same-sex interspecies romance between the two, something the show creators were loath to do. So Andy toned down Garak's sexual attraction to Bashir (slightly) and insisted on keeping Garak to be sexually ambiguous and interested in pretty much any attractive bipedal person with humanoid features. Ultimately, it was this remarkable chemistry between them and the love the writers had for Garak that kept him in the series for its entire run. The Wire remains Andy's favorite episode and he has remarked throughout his career that it truly is the best acting he has ever done, before or since.
I always think it was a pity that Andrew Robinson was ordered by Paramount to stop having Garek flirt with Bashir as he originally was doing - always made sense to explain why Garek particularly enjoyed spending time with Bashir. They had great chemistry regardless!
@@TheWyldehart man I wish the romance did happen, I'd want the the two of them to appear in Picard but knowing that show they'd kill the two of them. Though there is always lower decks.
Why is Alexander Siddig on Game of Thrones, but not Andrew Robinson? Can you imagine Garak in Westeros? He'd have the Iron Throne before you can say "Winter is Coming"!
I've thought the same thing. I honestly think DS9 was a forerunner of shows like Game of Thrones, with all the series-spanning stories, intrigue within intrigue, sympathetic villains, heroes who have to do very bad things, and characters like Garak who you're never sure where to place on the spectrum.
Garak would find the Stark's endearing but frustrating due to their nobility, would get along well with Tyrion but the rest of his family would drive him nuts and Dany....he'd be very careful around Dany.
Game of thrones can't even stand in the shadow of DS9. The earlier seasons had some merit and interesting plots, great television. 4 was decent, but 5 and 6 is outright terrible.
"Who wins" "What do you think" "Don't tell me, I don't want you to spoil the ending" C'mon Bashir, like Earth literature isn't full of that exact same thing, don't be that guy
Very true, but it goes in cycles. Some generations the author's culture / society / government wins and then a generation or two later they lose and a generation after that the winner is inevitable because it's all about the "friends we made along the way" and a generation after that the author's side wins again. Based off what Jake writes when the Muses messes with him, I am getting Start Trek DS9 takes place is Phase 3 of the writing cycle.
I could easily see Garak being the type who, upon meeting you the first time, compliments you on your taste in clothes, offers you a discount at his shop just to get your business, and then, still smiling and hail fellow well met, looks you straight in the eye and says (and it's impossible to tell if he's joking or being dead serious) "Oh by the way, in case it ever comes up. You shouldn't ever trust me." :D
Garak would never say such a thing outright. He knows he doesn't ever have to. If you're even remotely worth his respect and intrigue, you'd already know that the moment you laid eyes on him.
@@MasteringJohn Get along may be a stretch, I could see them being very cordial to the point a light banter. Don't let that fool you though. Behind that veneer are two master manipulators looking for an advantage.
don't know the guy's name, but you know he's underrated? why not just say amazing or excellent, it makes sense to your point......underrated means taht you're aware of his performances, his history, and the general response or reception he's received based on those factors.....which you clearly aren't
@@Bjorick Jeez dude, why are you being such a jerk? You clearly don't know his name, either, so don't pull that smarmy, holier than thou act. By the way, his name is Andrew Robinson. I bet dollars to donuts you had to Google that, too. Garak is brilliantly played, and yes, Robinson certainly is underrated.
@@WobblesandBean actually, i'm a fairly big fan of the people in the series, such as armin sherman plays quark. What else was he in? Not a clue, i don't follow actors. However, my point remains, unless you've viewed his full body of work and saw how it was received, saying he's underrated doesn't apply. Saying he's amazing in the role makes much more sense.
I always loved Garak. He was the most enigmatic character to step foot on DS9. I also loved Gul Dukat. These two were in my opinion the best Cardassians.
Their characters were put to good use to expose what it was like to be a Cardassian. A society that had seen and was still in many ways very hard times. That had been molded into the State they were currently in. One of projecting strength at all costs with Dukat. Having a duplicitous backstabbing culture just to survive that represents what Garak does. Though knowing from the way Garak romanticizes Cardassia that it wasn't always this way. It brings meaning as to how they are now.
Funny how Bashir seemed to enjoy Garak's company, despite knowing what he really was, yet at the same time he was always so combative with Sloan, who was not really so different from Garak.
***** Because Garak was sort of like a 'lost soul' to him, or an oddity from another culture. Sloan was human, of the federation...What he did and represented was like an ideological threat to everything Bashir believed in. Hit too close to home. Part of his confidence in even engaging Garak was in the smug confidence of his moral superiority. Sloan undermined all that moral superiority just by being who he was, and Bashir could never accept that. Plus, you know, Garak was fucking awesome and they had more in common than he realized.
Azindath I think the other reason is that Garak's spy days were behind him, and he never did genocide-level activities. Sloan was actively doing skullduggery.
Michael Blanchard Well, when you're in a war, and the death toll is getting into the *billions*, it could just as easily be argued that would-be "idealists" are nothing more than selfish jerks who prize their own egos more than they do the lives of other people! Section 31 comes across as a *lot* less evil in DS9 than in the reboot movies at least partly because got through TNG with little evidence that they had ever done any large-scale harm to anybody, even those the Federation had fought wars with (such as the Cardassians). They mostly seemed to just counter the actions of their rival espionage agencies from the other powers. It wasn't until the Founders (who already believed in genocidal biowarfare by the way) brought an army of drug-addicted clones brainwashed into thinking they are gods into the Alpha Quadrant to conquer, or kill any who refused to be conquered, that Section 31 really had to start playing dirty on a large scale.
Well ignoring Enterprise (Which I do on a daily basis) I agree with you. But the measure they deemed caused by necessity were a lot more overboard. And I think a better comparison to Sloan would be Enebran Tain, as both are leaders of the respective agencies. Garak was just an agent.
Michael Blanchard As was Sloan. We don't really see who runs Section 31. Now, while infecting Founders with a lethal disease might seem pretty hardcore. But consider that they were basically a non-mechanical version of the Borg. The Great Link was basically a collective too, albeit one where individuals could come and go rather than being permanently wired into it. But that means that the decisions made by the Founders were effectively reached by consensus. They *chose* to commit atrocities (including genocide) and the *only* crime they recognized was anyone doing harm to *them*, even if they initiated the hostilities in the first place. It was probably for that reason that the Augments' psychohistorical projections calculated that the allied powers would ultimately lose the war. They were basing their numbers on the assumption that the Federation would never compromise its ideals, and thus would never be able to beat the amoral Founders. Section 31 willing to play the game by the same rules as the Founders changed the equation entirely.
I think DS9 represents a different kind of trek- an ideological trek. While all Star Trek series include elements of these treks (particularly when and when not to violate the Prime Directive), DS9 has multiple treks woven throughout the series. Each character has their own journey (trek), be it spiritual, political, etc. The show has always been a journey of the mind.
Garak was my absolute favorite character in all of the Star Trek shows, and Andrew Robinson was, in my opinion, one of the great, if underappreciated, actors of the time. How many of you remember he was also the psycho killer in 'Dirty Harry'?
And he hated how it typecast him for years as everyone wanted him to play the crazed killer. Of course then ds9 came along... And then they did that episode on Empok Nor where Garak was exposed to drugs that made him a crazed killer.
When I saw Garak for the first time in DS9, very quick I recknognised his voice and then I realised it's Scorpio from Dirty Harry. To me one of the best characters in DS9, the best of all the Star Trek tv series.
I think Garak saw him that way to be honest, I don't know if he was aware of Bashir's origins, but I think, that he found him to be one of the only humans capable/worthy of being 'brought up' in a Cardassian fashion.
dardo1201 Yes, he always had this superior smug attitude when he delt with humans but dropped it when dealing with dictorship type worlds. It reminds me of smug Americans who look down at America but idolize the government's of foreign countries with dictorships.
Every single thing about DS9 was spot on. I legit did not like television until I watched DS9. I've watched it through probably 5 times now in just two years.
Garak is one of my favorite ST characters, because he is not a good person. But he's also not a bad person. He's just a person with one hell of a charisma score.
@@john.premose Quark couldn't guarantee the Romulans would join the war against the Dominion. Garak could guarantee that at the low cost of one Romulan Senator's life, one criminal's life, and one Starfleet Officer's self respect. Quite a bargain.
@@john.premosequark asks questions. Like what is he getting paid to do, then checks what hes doing to make sure its profitable to do. He also has a conscious. Something I do not think Garak struggles with.
***** I belive at this point the obsidian order was already destoyed by the romulans and the cardassian empire was in a civil war. I meant the Klingons wouldn't stand a chance if both empires were in their prime.
@@hiveinsider9122 - Wow, 8 years on, and I'm still coming back to this scene from time to time. Totally forgot I had made this comment, and yes, the amusement might fade if one watches the scene too many times, but I find that the occasional rewatch does not reduce the appreciation I am finding!
They ar half truths are the worst because you have the build in that fact is true t make it harder disproving them. So truths that just twist the truth instead just making stuff up, the worst or best, depending what you want.
That's ok, in EaFP in TNG, the courtroom bailiffs sport Harkonnen tech armor, Borgish machine guns, and Ketracel cocaine tubes. Yeah, they reused early concepts over and over again, until they were completely enfleshed as the people we've grown to know.
Appreciate the level of dedication a sci-fi show like this has from the production end, when you realize that some guy was in makeup for hours just for a 15 second-long establishing shot.
There's a very very good hidden meaning to this I think a lot of people miss garak uses his jobs and covers as a mask to his real purposes. He was a gardener and various people died. You could say he weeded them out and being a tailer. He takes the measure of people's getting to know things about them and their personal details. "Especially the lies" he's encouraging him to look past the surface of what he's saying.
The writing for this epic show is just on another level, and it blows away today's series by miles.the actors bring so much depth to the characters and I can't get enough.
Tain's words from a previous scene in this episode are the best description for Garak I've come across, "never tell the truth when a lie will do". Imagine trying to interrogate the guy, he'd talk non-stop for hours and confess to all sorts of things without going off-topic once and you still wouldn't find out anything useful.
"It takes place in the future... during a time when Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war." And just over a year later: the Klingon Empire launches a war against Cardassia.
The actor who played Garak wrote a novel on the characters origin. The only star trek book I ever picked up. It was pretty good. Always loved the character.
Garak had emotions and egos like most living things, but he has an almost Vulcan quality; what done is done and I'm still here. No need to dwell on it.
This is my favourite scene in DS9. Though Jadzia/Terry was capable of distracting me. Such a beautiful woman, Ms. Farrell. Although I offer notable mentions to the Odo/Kira angle. Ms Visitor had a strong fascination for me. (she be hot) The time Sisko gut shot Q..."I am not Picard!". That was AWESOME! DS9 wasn't perfect but it was a storyline I enjoyed. Plus Armin Shimerman knocked it out of the park as Quark. I'm Trekkie to fuck and proud. Thankyou "Great bird".
The more we watched Garak the easier it was to read his words. By nature of his upbringing and training, he was a master of subtlety, metaphor, and code. There comes a point where I don't think he was even capable of straight answers anymore, it was just so ingrained in his psychology and behavior to veil everything. But he seemed to do his best to be genuine with those around him about things that mattered, even if they didn't understand that he was doing so the best he could.
I loved this show! I got roped in from the very first episode. I was predisposed to like Ben Sisko because I so loved Avery Brooks previous work as Hawk on Spencer For Hire. But his work on DS9 was so much broader and deeper.
By the way, writer Robert Hewitt Wolfe was going to name it the Grey Order until he found out Babylon 5 had the organization known as The Grey Council. So he ended up picking Obsidian Order which sounds cooler anyway.
For nearly a dozen years I was a tugboat deckhand towing fuel oil out of NYC, and during long hours under tow or perhaps laying dockside waiting on a load, much of the time was passed... Smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee and telling lies
God the performance is so good. Check Robinson's face at 1:28 in particular. Immediately after claiming he has nothing to hide his smile relaxes for a fraction of a second before resuming its previous position. Garak's shifting from one lie to the next and he's giving himself away, although whether intentionally or not is up to debate.
its the way he says "Especially the lies" at the end. Garak was a masterpiece of a character and we were incredibly lucky to have Andrew Robinson play him for 7 seasons of mind twisting show. I recommend this as an example of how wonderful he works with Quark. th-cam.com/video/6VhSm6G7cVk/w-d-xo.html
"- Even the lies? - Especially the lies." Now there's a skill we can all aspire to. Too often I find people's lies too obvious (especially those of the politician or journalist persuasion), it's like they don't respect me or my deductive skills.
I always liked Garak's take on the lesson of the fable of the boy who cried wolf: "Never tell the same lie twice."
True but Garak always seem to hide a metaphor or a hidden true in his stories. You learn about him by looking how he lie. And he definitively like eating with Bashir. This at least was obvious.
Yes, but he said that after literally bombing his own shop because he's such a well-known liar that no one would believe him if he just said, "there's an assassin after me." He possibly said it out of annoyance that Bashir might have a point.
@@ApocalypseNext to be fair if he would have just said it as a question like "I think someone is trying to kill me, could you verify that for me" instead of blow up is shop or just saying it, that would have work, that not a lie as its a question and a question that even Sisco wouldn't ignore out of curiosity
Telling different lies will still give you a reputation for being a liar, and people won't believe you, even when you tell the truth.
The true lesson of the fable is that you should not appoint people you distrust to a position of responsibility.
The child dies and the flock is lost because the moronic adults left him in charge of the livestock after having decided they wouldn't respond to the call for help he is specifically tasked to give in response to wolves.
Garak: "I brought you something"
Bashir: "what is it?"
Garak: "Subtle foreshadowing"
Looks fake to me.
@@eloscuro7 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKEEE!
to quote ambassador Vreenak: "It's a FAAAAAKE!"
Jaina eating popcorn profile pic.
ITS REAL!
Garak has a score of 20 in Charisma.
before level up bonuses, gear, circumstance modifiers and the +6 inherent bonus he got from outfoxing an Ifreet into giving him wishes.
With a +2 magical gaze. LOL
20 charisma, expertise in deception, and a Ring(Legendary) with a permanent Glibness effect.
his score is just "yes"
It really seems like he stretches that 20 so far until not even the bonus can help him with his outlandish inquiries. I think he wants to get past that 20 cap somehow.
As later quoted "Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest."
Honestly!
Honestly, it's the honest men you have to watch out for, because you never know when they're going to do something incredibly stupid.
Love the way he's always overtly lying, even when he might be telling the truth
Jack Sparrow would agree.
Imagine a version of Jack Sparrow as a space pirate. Free booting and plundering in the wild triangle between the Federation, Romulan, and Klingon Empire borders. Imagine An encounter between Garak and Jack at Quark’s bar.
Would they hit it off famously? Or immediately distrust each other?
Or... BOTH!! 🤣🤣🤣
I think that's my favourite bit of Garak dialogue in the entire series. "Even the lies?" "ESPECIALLY the lies." God, he's such a well-written character and Andrew Robinson's performance is just...perfect.
And it's the only time ever where he told the 100% unmasked truth :D
People don’t remember him as the bad guy in the first Dirty Harry movie!
@@drew7564 I do and I was so surprised when I found out he was Garak in DS9!
"Especially the lies!"
'Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.' -Oscar Wilde
Given the outcome of the internet, I'm sure that Mr. Wilde was more right than he could ever have imagined.
Anon: Rule 34 on Garak
Garak: You have no idea
A gay quote for a gay man💖
The heart at the end makes me think you may have gene's intend wrong here.
@Atheos B. Sapien
I like how you were bothered enough about it that you assumed the meaning of Gene's words instead of seeking confirmation.
Andrew Robinson elevates the quality of every scene he’s in.
He deserves about a dozen Emmy’s.
If there was any more proof why DS9 was the best show, Garak, Nog and Kai Wynn are side characters. Every time they are on screen they steal the screen every time.
He's in Pumpkinhead II. He's the only reason to watch Pumpkinhead II.
@@LancerJak Can confirm, especially Nogs arc
@@LancerJak yeah, it’s crazy. they do so much with everyone - you can absolutely tell the writers gave a shit about every single character and making their relationships to each other and the world around them make sense and progress throughout the seven seasons. it’s just so good.
Garak, by far the best [edit: regularly recurring] non-main cast character in all iterations of Star Trek.
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Nog is close! Like, Garak is best non-main cast, Nog is more "oh I thought he was main cast" haha.
How is Garak not main cast? DS9 is basically Garak's redemption story that they let some other space stuff happen in.
Martin gotta agree
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg He didn't start out main cast, I agree, but definitely by the time the Dominion War began he was THE Cardassian angle, and thus immensely important as Gul Dukat shifted from Rival to pure Antagonist. And in the end it wasn't just Garak's redemption, but how that journey was echoed by Cardassia itself.
That was always a strength of Star Trek as a series, was how sometimes minor, background characters could shift to the forefront. Sometimes (Like Garak) they even stayed there.
"Couldn't stand being cooped up in that infirmary..." - laying the groundwork for claustrophobia and season 5.
That strikes me as odd, because the DS9 infirmary is probably the most open out of them all. The doors are almost always left wide open.
@@Jokie155 Claustrophobia is by definition not rational, so expecting it to follow rational logic is not either.
I have extremely mild claustrophobia, and I've at times had more trouble with larger spaces I wasn't able to leave, than actual small spaces...
I'd say it's mostly about the sensation of feeling trapped than the actual amount of space...
Put me in a fairly large elevator and I'm more likely to have a problem than if I'm stuck in a cramped closet...
It's just not that simple...
@@key539 that's a new one to me, thanks!
I have a dislike for being in places where I'm not able to move freely, like if I can't move my feet or legs, or if I can't turn my head. Caving (or potholing, or spelunking) is definitely not for me. It's not a fear, but I feel like it could become one given some bad circumstances.
@@Milamberinx phobias usually come from a need to have control.
someone with claustrophobia doesn't really hate tight places as much as they hate places they can't leave at their leisure, on the stairs you can turn around, choose which side you climb on etc. you have complete control over the situation, on an elevator you're stuck in there until the machine decides to let you out and not being able to go: "I am leaving NOW!" is scary to some people.
i have a similar thing, i rarely drive to a party or something with other people, i will drive myself so i can leave on my own terms and if i didn't bring my own car i'll sooner walk home than to wait until the designated driver decides it's time to leave.
@@Jokie155 the machines used for healing are claustrophobic inducing, especially for internal injuries
As someone with a secret of his own, it's no wonder Bashier and Garak got along so perfect.
bashier see garak has secrets to hide just he has so they have something in common that's what made there friendship work so well each has his lies to hide secrets
In non cannon they got married. Even the actors did a reading of a script you can youtube. The actors wanted the characters to head that way in the show but it was the 90's and the producers were like NOPE.
@@maneesh77 Good because that sounds like absolutely awful tumblr-tier fanfiction. We don't need to turn every male friendship into a slash romance.
@@Grimmers True, not every close historical friendship between same sex folks needs to be reexamined through "Sappho and Erinna" lenses. But in this case, the actors DID approach the characters as two people flirting and stuff. So it's not a retcon for them to be married in a fan fic but an "un erasure".
no one who matters cares if you're gay
I just noticed that while Siddig always looks straight at whatever he's focused on, Robinson keeps looking to either side. While it comes across as casual, and it could easily be a personal quirk of the actor, I can't help but think that he's playing Garak as always slightly on the alert for an attack.
He constantly scans his surroundings. It could be a deliberate affectation to give the appearance of a hunted character, or it could be that Robinson is actually paranoid and doing it unconsciously.
Could be both! In the series 'The Blacklist', James Spader always tilts his head when he talks. I thought this was a quirk of his character who is quite like Garak, always telling the wildest stories with a smile on his face and you're never certain whether he's telling the truth. But then I saw a short clip of James Spader in 'Boston Legal' and he tilted his head in the exact same way when he spoke.
To make sure no one else is listening in. Knowing you're a spy yourself makes you more aware of who else may be.
Wow I never noticed that. Good catch.
I've been lucky to meet Andrew Robinson twice and he always looked straight at me... 😅
The sideways eyes are what is known in the trade as good acting. Good spot though 👍
I brought you something... the scripts to Season 4. It takes place in the future, when Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war!
+smartalec2001 haha
Who wins?
Austin Boylan garak "Well let me just say it certainly surprised me"
Garak: "I brought you something"
Bashir: "what is it?"
Garak: "Subtle foreshadowing"
The foreshadowing!
I love how much effort DS9 put into making the random extras walking through the background look freaking awesome. Nearly every episode has at least one spectacular costume or prosthetics job in it, from a character with no lines who didn't need to be there at all. And this was a show with constant budget cuts!
Every single person involved in making DS9 was incredible at their job.
Star Trek, the "what cool alien costume do we have legal rights to and how much are we allowed to pay someone to wear it for ten minutes?" franchise of the film industry.
I have seen Slestaks from Land of the Lost, Dracs from Enemy Mine, New Comers from Alien Nation and I know there a tons I am missing because I have never seen the shows or movies.
Imagine sitting in the makeup chair for hours and then only getting paid daily rate for an extra, LOL. I do love all the detail on the show.
HAHAHAHA Babylon 5 was pushing out it's brilliance with about a 1/4 of the budget. Majel Roddenberry herself stated that, and pointed out the brilliance of what they were doing with such limited resources.
Morn was the main character in an episode and he was barely in it. Him and his blabber mouth, and beating Worf on the holosuite. Fracking Morn. That guy....
"Especially the lies," says that you can learn more about who Garak is by his lies than by the truth you might learn of him. Beautiful scene. I could watch this episode a dozen times just for the Bashir & Garak scenes. They're delightful.
there is truth in lies if you know how to read it
Why not watch it a dozen times? Nothing stopping you from doing so. Watch it once a week, and in 3 months, you would have watched it a dozen times.
LIES are told for a reason, which tells you something. People tell the truth is they don't have a reason to lie. Thus, the lies tell you more than the truth.
However, Garak lies casually about almost everything, so that you can't pick out any one lie to ascertain a motive behind it.
I always loved their conversations, but felt that Dr Bashir was a bit out of his depth with Garak. Dr Bashir was very smart, but not terribly worldly or attuned to certain nuances and subtleties that Garak considered normal conversation.
he smiled when he said it, but “especially the lies” actually points to his deep seated guilt and confused loyalties. elim being a friend turned enemy was a lie, but it was also very true.
Think of Elim as a part of Garek. Garek is the separate part from within Elim.
Now it makes sense.
He's conflicted. Fighting with himself as to who he is.
Elim is the more cutthroat personality. Garek is the tailor.
It's like saying I killed Bob to save Robert. You would think those are separate people, but no. They are the one and the same. Killing off a personality.
Anakin being murdered by Darth Vader.
The truth that he fought with elim over it, hits way harder due him being elimm
We never do find out how is the spiced pudding!
I know! No matter how unhappy or worried you are, you ALWAYS try the freaking pudding!
westtxtapper I still lie awake at night wondering how it was.
I'm just saying, no matter what people think about Star Trek Discovery, the writers on that show would have made sure we knew how the pudding was.
We may never know.
Not as delicious as Dr. Bashir, apparently.
Ah Garak. Never tell the truth, when a lie will do. That man has a rare gift for obfuscation.
One of my favorite lines in all of Star Trek!
Like The Joker..
He is somehow blunt and obscure at the same time,.
Garak's entire character summed up in 2 sentences.
I love the relationship and witty back and forth between Garak and Bashir.
Garak bantered wittily with all the characters, with subtlety and many layers of meaning, and all with that wry smile in his voice.
Captain Sisko : Who's watching Tolar?
Garak : I've locked him in his quarters. I've also left him with the distinct impression that if he attempts to force the door open, it may explode.
Captain Sisko : I hope that's just an impression.
Garak : It's best not to dwell on such minutiae.
The relationship between them is the reason Andy Robinson got the part. Apparently, the writers had no idea what to do with Bashir, who was young, idealistic, naive and getting lost in the episodes. Siddig said that Rick Berman was constantly having to vouch for his continued existence on the show to producers.
So they decided that Bashir needed a companion and made Robinson come out to audition (an audition he almost blew off because they made him endure 3 previous auditions for Odo before choosing Rene Aubergonois for the part.) His wife essentially forced him out the door because he needed a job and he did the audition with such charisma that I don't think they even auditioned anyone else.
He was expecting to do one, maybe two episodes. The idea was to see if they clicked, if the chemistry was there. That very first scene, Robinson played up Garak's open attraction to Bashir and once said, "...there's this scene where you'd swear that Garak was ready to eat him." Both actors were game for a same-sex interspecies romance between the two, something the show creators were loath to do. So Andy toned down Garak's sexual attraction to Bashir (slightly) and insisted on keeping Garak to be sexually ambiguous and interested in pretty much any attractive bipedal person with humanoid features.
Ultimately, it was this remarkable chemistry between them and the love the writers had for Garak that kept him in the series for its entire run.
The Wire remains Andy's favorite episode and he has remarked throughout his career that it truly is the best acting he has ever done, before or since.
I always think it was a pity that Andrew Robinson was ordered by Paramount to stop having Garek flirt with Bashir as he originally was doing - always made sense to explain why Garek particularly enjoyed spending time with Bashir. They had great chemistry regardless!
@@TheWyldehart man I wish the romance did happen, I'd want the the two of them to appear in Picard but knowing that show they'd kill the two of them. Though there is always lower decks.
Why is Alexander Siddig on Game of Thrones, but not Andrew Robinson? Can you imagine Garak in Westeros? He'd have the Iron Throne before you can say "Winter is Coming"!
+TomTheFounder
we''ll have to settle with Varys... he's probably the closest thing.
I've thought the same thing. I honestly think DS9 was a forerunner of shows like Game of Thrones, with all the series-spanning stories, intrigue within intrigue, sympathetic villains, heroes who have to do very bad things, and characters like Garak who you're never sure where to place on the spectrum.
Garak would find the Stark's endearing but frustrating due to their nobility, would get along well with Tyrion but the rest of his family would drive him nuts and Dany....he'd be very careful around Dany.
Well the good doctor sadly didn't last long, Medical emergency in holosuite 1.
Game of thrones can't even stand in the shadow of DS9. The earlier seasons had some merit and interesting plots, great television. 4 was decent, but 5 and 6 is outright terrible.
As much as I love Garak. I would never listen to an audio gift from him. Could easily end up being subliminal messages.
A bomb isn't sophisticated enought, for Garak.
How foolish. He is giving him information and as another youtuber said "Garak's diary is hidden in all the books he's given him."
U9B Ah thank you
Hahahahaha as a Trekkie, this the best TH-cam comment I've read this week. I tip my hat to you sir :)
Hahahahah
"Who wins"
"What do you think"
"Don't tell me, I don't want you to spoil the ending"
C'mon Bashir, like Earth literature isn't full of that exact same thing, don't be that guy
Bashir is the type that even in optimistic world seems nieve
Very true, but it goes in cycles. Some generations the author's culture / society / government wins and then a generation or two later they lose and a generation after that the winner is inevitable because it's all about the "friends we made along the way" and a generation after that the author's side wins again. Based off what Jake writes when the Muses messes with him, I am getting Start Trek DS9 takes place is Phase 3 of the writing cycle.
@@matthewjones2095 Best summary of Bashir ever!
I could easily see Garak being the type who, upon meeting you the first time, compliments you on your taste in clothes, offers you a discount at his shop just to get your business, and then, still smiling and hail fellow well met, looks you straight in the eye and says (and it's impossible to tell if he's joking or being dead serious) "Oh by the way, in case it ever comes up. You shouldn't ever trust me." :D
logandarklighter i imagine the face as he tells it :D
I imagine he and Book Littlefinger would get along famously...while secretly plotting against each other.
Garak would never say such a thing outright. He knows he doesn't ever have to. If you're even remotely worth his respect and intrigue, you'd already know that the moment you laid eyes on him.
Hahaha! Excellent!
@@MasteringJohn Get along may be a stretch, I could see them being very cordial to the point a light banter. Don't let that fool you though. Behind that veneer are two master manipulators looking for an advantage.
The fact is he give Bashir secret intel about the first step to destabylizing process which would end in Dominion War is masterpiece
Every episode with Garak was pure gold.Guy who played him is really underrated actor.
don't know the guy's name, but you know he's underrated?
why not just say amazing or excellent, it makes sense to your point......underrated means taht you're aware of his performances, his history, and the general response or reception he's received based on those factors.....which you clearly aren't
@@Bjorick Jeez dude, why are you being such a jerk? You clearly don't know his name, either, so don't pull that smarmy, holier than thou act. By the way, his name is Andrew Robinson. I bet dollars to donuts you had to Google that, too. Garak is brilliantly played, and yes, Robinson certainly is underrated.
@@WobblesandBean actually, i'm a fairly big fan of the people in the series, such as armin sherman plays quark. What else was he in? Not a clue, i don't follow actors.
However, my point remains, unless you've viewed his full body of work and saw how it was received, saying he's underrated doesn't apply. Saying he's amazing in the role makes much more sense.
Andrew Robinson. He played the Scorpio killer in the first Dirty Harry movie.
@@Bjorick
That's possibly the most pedantic thing I've ever read
I always loved Garak. He was the most enigmatic character to step foot on DS9. I also loved Gul Dukat. These two were in my opinion the best Cardassians.
Their characters were put to good use to expose what it was like to be a Cardassian. A society that had seen and was still in many ways very hard times. That had been molded into the State they were currently in. One of projecting strength at all costs with Dukat. Having a duplicitous backstabbing culture just to survive that represents what Garak does. Though knowing from the way Garak romanticizes Cardassia that it wasn't always this way. It brings meaning as to how they are now.
I love when Tain says "Garak always had a rare gift for obfuscation."
Like being told you have a rare gift for hockey by Wayne Gretzky.
@@GestapoPussyRanch or in this case, told by Walter Gretzky, his dad.
We all obfuscate, because we think that we have something to gIn.
Funny how Bashir seemed to enjoy Garak's company, despite knowing what he really was, yet at the same time he was always so combative with Sloan, who was not really so different from Garak.
***** Because Garak was sort of like a 'lost soul' to him, or an oddity from another culture. Sloan was human, of the federation...What he did and represented was like an ideological threat to everything Bashir believed in. Hit too close to home. Part of his confidence in even engaging Garak was in the smug confidence of his moral superiority. Sloan undermined all that moral superiority just by being who he was, and Bashir could never accept that.
Plus, you know, Garak was fucking awesome and they had more in common than he realized.
Azindath I think the other reason is that Garak's spy days were behind him, and he never did genocide-level activities. Sloan was actively doing skullduggery.
Michael Blanchard
Well, when you're in a war, and the death toll is getting into the *billions*, it could just as easily be argued that would-be "idealists" are nothing more than selfish jerks who prize their own egos more than they do the lives of other people!
Section 31 comes across as a *lot* less evil in DS9 than in the reboot movies at least partly because got through TNG with little evidence that they had ever done any large-scale harm to anybody, even those the Federation had fought wars with (such as the Cardassians). They mostly seemed to just counter the actions of their rival espionage agencies from the other powers.
It wasn't until the Founders (who already believed in genocidal biowarfare by the way) brought an army of drug-addicted clones brainwashed into thinking they are gods into the Alpha Quadrant to conquer, or kill any who refused to be conquered, that Section 31 really had to start playing dirty on a large scale.
Well ignoring Enterprise (Which I do on a daily basis) I agree with you. But the measure they deemed caused by necessity were a lot more overboard. And I think a better comparison to Sloan would be Enebran Tain, as both are leaders of the respective agencies. Garak was just an agent.
Michael Blanchard
As was Sloan. We don't really see who runs Section 31. Now, while infecting Founders with a lethal disease might seem pretty hardcore. But consider that they were basically a non-mechanical version of the Borg. The Great Link was basically a collective too, albeit one where individuals could come and go rather than being permanently wired into it. But that means that the decisions made by the Founders were effectively reached by consensus. They *chose* to commit atrocities (including genocide) and the *only* crime they recognized was anyone doing harm to *them*, even if they initiated the hostilities in the first place.
It was probably for that reason that the Augments' psychohistorical projections calculated that the allied powers would ultimately lose the war. They were basing their numbers on the assumption that the Federation would never compromise its ideals, and thus would never be able to beat the amoral Founders. Section 31 willing to play the game by the same rules as the Founders changed the equation entirely.
Garak is the best damn character on DS9 if not all of Trek!
He's the Q of DS9
yeah he is a fantastic character. I can't stand people who claim to be star trek fans and say "DS9 isn't real trek"
i loved ds9
I think DS9 represents a different kind of trek- an ideological trek. While all Star Trek series include elements of these treks (particularly when and when not to violate the Prime Directive), DS9 has multiple treks woven throughout the series. Each character has their own journey (trek), be it spiritual, political, etc. The show has always been a journey of the mind.
Jesse Spence oooh that's good, I never thought of DS9 like that!
Garak is probably my favourite character from the entire Star Trek universe. Complex, mysterious and so brilliantly portrayed.
Garak was my absolute favorite character in all of the Star Trek shows, and Andrew Robinson was, in my opinion, one of the great, if underappreciated, actors of the time. How many of you remember he was also the psycho killer in 'Dirty Harry'?
And he hated how it typecast him for years as everyone wanted him to play the crazed killer. Of course then ds9 came along... And then they did that episode on Empok Nor where Garak was exposed to drugs that made him a crazed killer.
When I saw Garak for the first time in DS9, very quick I recknognised his voice and then I realised it's Scorpio from Dirty Harry. To me one of the best characters in DS9, the best of all the Star Trek tv series.
I recognized him as the dad from Hellraiser
I sort of feel like Bashir was his apprentice.
I think Garak saw him that way to be honest, I don't know if he was aware of Bashir's origins, but I think, that he found him to be one of the only humans capable/worthy of being 'brought up' in a Cardassian fashion.
+dardo1201 As in easy to turn him into a Cardassian spy? Idealists are always an easy target.
ese hombre Exactly, he was an idealist but also exceptionally intelligent (for a human as he would say).
dardo1201 Yes, he always had this superior smug attitude when he delt with humans but dropped it when dealing with dictorship type worlds. It reminds me of smug Americans who look down at America but idolize the government's of foreign countries with dictorships.
Blue Skeptic Odo and Quark didn’t either. Even Worf comes to respect Garak.
I can't help but giggle with glee at Garak's delivery of the title line. Argh, he's so good...
Astounding how the casting for DS9 was spot on. The actors here were phenomenal.
Every single thing about DS9 was spot on. I legit did not like television until I watched DS9. I've watched it through probably 5 times now in just two years.
And yet, they nearly didn't cast Andrew Robinson as Garak, but as Odo instead. Boy, wouldn't THAT have been a different show...
@@WobblesandBean Rene and Andrew were both brilliant actors, but reversing which played whom would have been a huge mistake.
Garak is one of my favorite ST characters, because he is not a good person. But he's also not a bad person. He's just a person with one hell of a charisma score.
Love the chemistry between those two
1:27 I just realized for the first time, Garaks smile cracks for just a brief second when he says he has nothing to hide
Garak is an amazingly well-written character, ambivalent and open-ended.... good sci-fi literarure
ah that weird stage where Garak got REALLY COOL
Yes, that weird stage, they called that period "Star Trek: Deep Space 9" :P
Garak was the secret G'Kar of Deep Space Nine.
It is always the secondary charaters that develop like that. Garak, the Doctor, Shran.
Garak was a masterpiece of character. If ever you wanted something no questions asked this is the guy you turn to.
What about Quark?
@@john.premose Quark couldn't guarantee the Romulans would join the war against the Dominion. Garak could guarantee that at the low cost of one Romulan Senator's life, one criminal's life, and one Starfleet Officer's self respect. Quite a bargain.
@@john.premosequark asks questions. Like what is he getting paid to do, then checks what hes doing to make sure its profitable to do.
He also has a conscious. Something I do not think Garak struggles with.
All these years later and I still laugh at this . Greatest show ever created . Thanks Desi . Thanks Lucy .
Both Garak and Dukat were excellently cast. They both made the show so much richer
1:49 - "Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war" - Foreshadowing
How the hell did I miss that? Good catch.
***** Who do you think?
The Klingons wouldn't stand a chance. The Cardassians are way too smart for them.
***** I've seen every single episode and every single move except the TOS series. I am a walking Star Trek encyclopedia.
***** I belive at this point the obsidian order was already destoyed by the romulans and the cardassian empire was in a civil war. I meant the Klingons wouldn't stand a chance if both empires were in their prime.
I have watched this little segment many times and it never ceases to amuse me. I think Garak is my favorite DS9 character.
It would probably stop amusing me after a while but I also find Garak to be my favorite character
@@hiveinsider9122 - Wow, 8 years on, and I'm still coming back to this scene from time to time. Totally forgot I had made this comment, and yes, the amusement might fade if one watches the scene too many times, but I find that the occasional rewatch does not reduce the appreciation I am finding!
@@cyberherbalist Yeah, I'm a regular visitor of this scene as well. I'd suggest this channel, better visuals.
th-cam.com/users/Krazeyivan99
@@Sekir80 -Oh, yes, I've seen this channel before! Good stuff.
That line "especially the lies" sold me on Garek. Loved it whenever he was in an episode.
Everything is better with Garak!
Bashir / Garak conversations are always enjoyable, at the same time the DS9 fans gets to know...or at least trying to understand Garak's past.
Or he would believe the informations are lies woven into another story.
A stich in time, and he told the truth even when he lied. A matter of perspective. Like Luke, darth vader killed your father.
"My dear doctor, they're all gay."
"Even the straights?"
" *Especially* the straights."
A book about a war between the Cardassians and the Klingons? Sounds like some foreshadowing to the events of season 4. ;-)
But he didn't specify how much :D
Not to mention the Jem'Hadar that strolls in at the beginning of the scene. Four episodes before the Jem'Hadar are formally introduced.
To paraphrase a wiseman: "the best lies are the ones closest to the truth."
They ar half truths are the worst because you have the build in that fact is true t make it harder disproving them. So truths that just twist the truth instead just making stuff up, the worst or best, depending what you want.
And a few years later Bashir got to live a war between the Klingon and Cardassian empires
One of Garak's most iconic scenes, it shows some of his more charming traits.
This is the first revisiting this sense since my binge of the series earlier this year and the Klingon Vs Cardassian line made me spit my drink.
Andrew J. Robinson is plays the sinister part so well!
TheCoolProfessor Its the way he smiles and his bulging, paranoid eyes.
That laugh at 1:56 is pretty much Garak, in 5 seconds of footage...
TheCoolProfessor his words, voice inflection, and eyes all confuse you about what to believe!
It starts off with a Jem Hadar -type costumed extra. Just missing a ketracel white tube.
And then predicts the Cardassia-Klingon war. Two bits of foreshadowing in one episode!
That's ok, in EaFP in TNG, the courtroom bailiffs sport Harkonnen tech armor, Borgish machine guns, and Ketracel cocaine tubes. Yeah, they reused early concepts over and over again, until they were completely enfleshed as the people we've grown to know.
If you knew when I was lying or telling the truth would I still have your undivided attention..yours very truly Alfonso Cantu
Appreciate the level of dedication a sci-fi show like this has from the production end, when you realize that some guy was in makeup for hours just for a 15 second-long establishing shot.
Garak is awesome! I hope he returns in a new series!
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He's coming back in a new series called Keeping Up With the Cardassians.
We need him on the Orville!
MrTron Somebody get this man a cookie!
Sadly, the Actor is already dead.
There's a very very good hidden meaning to this I think a lot of people miss garak uses his jobs and covers as a mask to his real purposes. He was a gardener and various people died. You could say he weeded them out and being a tailer. He takes the measure of people's getting to know things about them and their personal details. "Especially the lies" he's encouraging him to look past the surface of what he's saying.
Oooo! Good call!
I think Bashir secretly enjoys what an an enigma Garak is. Look at that little smile at the end.
The writing for this epic show is just on another level, and it blows away today's series by miles.the actors bring so much depth to the characters and I can't get enough.
Garak is such a charming scoundrel! I would like to see him in one of the reboot movies.
"Takes place in the future, during the time Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war."
Well, that definitely happened.
Possibly, one of the most interesting characters in the canon, rivaling Spock. One is never quite sure what he is thinking.
An the same practically canon gay ship :P A spock has one. But thats proably more accidental.
Tain's words from a previous scene in this episode are the best description for Garak I've come across, "never tell the truth when a lie will do". Imagine trying to interrogate the guy, he'd talk non-stop for hours and confess to all sorts of things without going off-topic once and you still wouldn't find out anything useful.
"It takes place in the future... during a time when Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war."
And just over a year later: the Klingon Empire launches a war against Cardassia.
The actor who played Garak wrote a novel on the characters origin. The only star trek book I ever picked up. It was pretty good. Always loved the character.
It's a fascinating read. I enjoyed it as well!
What’s it called?
@@austinperry1671 “a stitch in time” by andrew j robinson. you can’t get a copy without shelling out, but there’s an audiobook in the works right now.
"there is no such thing as an innocent question nor a valueless statement"
Two outstanding characters and actors.
Garak was one of my favorites on the show.
Spoiler:
Garak's diary is hidden in all the books he's given him.
Ingenious.
Actually there is a real-life book called "A Stitch in Time" wirtten by Andrew Robinson, which is basically Garak's biographie in a letter to Bashir.
Some reason I don't doubt that
It WAS hidden in all the books, but Bashir ate them.
Dude. At least give me a line break between the word spoiler and the line. I read two lines simultaneously so I got kinda screwed here ^^''
"Especially the lies", A good liar puts something true (either a fact or a feeling) inside of a lie to make it feel real.
That's what Garak means.
"When you lie, you lie with your own hidden truth."
Damn, Garak was one of best characters, he was so unusual and defied cliche expectations.
One of my favorite episodes and this is the reason why.
well, tennyson did say "a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies".
"A man who tells lies, like me, merely conceals the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it."
Especially the lies. And that is the biggest truth he could tell you, perhaps even endangering himself while doing so.
Elim Garak, the greatest and most naturally gifted Gaslighter in the galaxy!
Garak had emotions and egos like most living things, but he has an almost Vulcan quality; what done is done and I'm still here. No need to dwell on it.
I'd go to the promenade just to watch these two talk about daily stuff.
Maybe the most meme'd scene in Star Trek history, but still one of the most impactful.
This is my favourite scene in DS9. Though Jadzia/Terry was capable of distracting me. Such a beautiful woman, Ms. Farrell.
Although I offer notable mentions to the Odo/Kira angle. Ms Visitor had a strong fascination for me. (she be hot)
The time Sisko gut shot Q..."I am not Picard!". That was AWESOME!
DS9 wasn't perfect but it was a storyline I enjoyed.
Plus Armin Shimerman knocked it out of the park as Quark.
I'm Trekkie to fuck and proud.
Thankyou "Great bird".
The more we watched Garak the easier it was to read his words. By nature of his upbringing and training, he was a master of subtlety, metaphor, and code. There comes a point where I don't think he was even capable of straight answers anymore, it was just so ingrained in his psychology and behavior to veil everything. But he seemed to do his best to be genuine with those around him about things that mattered, even if they didn't understand that he was doing so the best he could.
I loved this show! I got roped in from the very first episode. I was predisposed to like Ben Sisko because I so loved Avery Brooks previous work as Hawk on Spencer For Hire. But his work on DS9 was so much broader and deeper.
By the way, writer Robert Hewitt Wolfe was going to name it the Grey Order until he found out Babylon 5 had the organization known as The Grey Council. So he ended up picking Obsidian Order which sounds cooler anyway.
Garak really is a great character. One of my favorites
Best line of a series with many, many great lines.
Garak, Master of Deception and witty lines !
Oh God I love this show so much
Garak. Keep him close...but not TOO close.
Earn his respect and keep him closer than anyone you know.
Λαυρέντιος Ψαροκάηκας, And for the love of God don’t turn your back on him.
For nearly a dozen years I was a tugboat deckhand towing fuel oil out of NYC, and during long hours under tow or perhaps laying dockside waiting on a load, much of the time was passed...
Smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee and telling lies
God the performance is so good. Check Robinson's face at 1:28 in particular. Immediately after claiming he has nothing to hide his smile relaxes for a fraction of a second before resuming its previous position. Garak's shifting from one lie to the next and he's giving himself away, although whether intentionally or not is up to debate.
Thank you! It was such a beautiful detail, I had hoped more people would've mentioned it
Brilliant actor, brilliant character.
its the way he says "Especially the lies" at the end.
Garak was a masterpiece of a character and we were incredibly lucky to have Andrew Robinson play him for 7 seasons of mind twisting show.
I recommend this as an example of how wonderful he works with Quark.
th-cam.com/video/6VhSm6G7cVk/w-d-xo.html
Garak had to be one of the most interesting characters on the station.
Very compelling for a simple tailor.
God this stuff is so freaking good.
"- Even the lies? - Especially the lies."
Now there's a skill we can all aspire to. Too often I find people's lies too obvious (especially those of the politician or journalist persuasion), it's like they don't respect me or my deductive skills.
'You fight well...
For a tailor!'
The guy at the beginning looked like a cross between a Narn and a Minbari.
Man. . . now I wanna rewatch all of DS9 again. . .