"You see me as a villain, a scheming scoundrel who lurks behind the scenes pulling strings like some arcane puppet-master with sinister intentions. Well, I, for one, am flattered."
Garak always get that little smirk on his face when he actually manages to get someone to admit they don't trust him. It's like the highest praise you can give him.
He considers that distrust to be a sign that the person has at least some awareness, is worthy of some respect. He covers the inherent danger that he represents behind a mask of civility and faux-charm, but he periodically tests people by letting the mask slip for a second, to see if they notice. If they do, then they are worth observing further. If they don't, then they are worthless fools, fit only for manipulating and disposing of once their value is spent. He spends the entire series testing the defenses of others, looking for weaknesses to exploit, respecting only those who catch him in the act.
@@TheZetaKai And also because distrust feeds speculation...and few veils are as effective at hiding the truth as having someone invent their own reasons for your behavior.
He's just a tailor. A great tailor, if i must say myself. How come that everyone around him treats him like he's something bigger than that? He doesn't give anything for others to suspect him. And still, his genius exudes every pore and some intelligent people is catching on! Nice to see someone is attentive :3
@@grendelum Garak's probably known early on. After all, he seems like the sort who would did pretty deep into someone before trying to make an ongoing association to the degree seen here.
@@InfernosReaper That's a good point. Bashir's clearly not Khan-level of "dangerous," and it's always nice to have some blackmail on hand for whoever you associate with.
@@InfernosReaper Any examination of even minute tissue samples would be sufficient to reveal genetic modification. I would be surprised if Garak hasn't taken samples from every single person on the station. Now, obviously, getting even small tissue samples from such a large population would be challenging to do without getting noticed. Unless you could get them to bring the samples to you. Say, perhaps... on their clothing?
@@mygaffer Why whatever do you mean? The Cardassian data rod obtained by the Romulans is 100% genuine. No verification is needed. (Garak, this "User" fellow on TH-cam knows too much!)
Well, Julian was so gullible in "Past Prologue" that seeing him becoming more intuitive in his thinking and more weary of the machinations of others shows a growth that Garak truly admires.
One of the things Garak is trying to teach Bashir is not to be so damn gullible all the time. The galaxy is not a nice place, and Bashir is going to get killed unless he wises up.
It's also why the Federation never really got along with the Cardassians (and to some extend, Romulans and Klingons); the politically correct attitude doesn't work thesame everywhere.
Garak was originally supposed to be a one episode character used simply to help introduce Dr. Bashir to the show. So glad the producers realized his potential and kept him on. One of the best, if not the best, Trek characters ever and portrayed by a wonderfully talented actor. For those who are not aware, he also portrayed Scorpio, the crazy killer in Dirty Harry.
So Garak, an OC throw-away character, meant to introduce Dr. Bashir turned out to be a beloved main-stay character so popular that he's regarded as one of the best characters in ALL Star Trek. Meanwhile, Dr. Bashir, a blatant rip-off of Stephen Franklin from Babylon 5, the same show that the entirety of DS9 was ripping off, was so hated for being a boring Self-Insert, that they turned him into a mutant/walking super-computer and made the Federation racist against mutants to try and make him interesting. . .. nice.
Andrew Robinson also played in the movie Cobra with Sylvester Stallone, as a detective you just loved to hate. I think he read off the roles of the cops in Dirty Harry that completely disliked Harry. There was a big rumor that Robin Williams was set to appear in DS9, likely inspired by his friend Whoopi Goldberg. I think Garak was being tailored for him. Andrew was fantastic, but after seeing Robin play in movies like Insomnia and One Hour Photo, I think Robin would have done that role amazingly, as well.
The writers putting these two as friends was a total ballsy risk and it ompletely paid off. I tip my hat to them for their foresight and imagination to see what these characters and actors could pull off. One of the best pairings since Riggs and Murtaugh.
+Jammsbro unfortunetly, you can't have an interesting friendship between two guys in a TV show without some stupid fucking horny teenage girls butchering these characters and pairing them up into some twisted and unreal homosexual hardcore relationship, where neither character even resembles himself anymore, and appereantly all they think and talk about is gagging on each other dicks.
+PetersaberHD Actually, Andrew Robinson originally played Garak as ambiguously gay with a possible (unreciprocated) attraction to Julian. The writers had to tell Robinson to tone it down and they wrote the stuff with Garak and Ziyal to dismiss the possibility.
I wouldn't say that Bashir and Garak are truly friends. Friendship involves at least some level of trust, and obviously nobody trusts Garak, especially not Bashir. Bashir always eats lunch with him on the Promenade, where there are plenty of people around, and he very rarely went anywhere alone with him.
+PetersaberHD Unfortunately you can't have a gay couple represented on any popular TV show because the shallow viewpoints of people like you scare off studio execs. Ironic considering ST was one of the first franchises to accept actors of colour and supposedly promote equality. At least attempt to broaden your mind and consider what romance between the two characters would entail, because right now you sound a lot like the nerdy guys who think that they haven't had many girlfriends because they're above 'stupid fucking horny' girls, when actually it's just because they're nasty people.
+PetersaberHD It just makes me so fucking angry to read the same old BS like this about horny fangirls inventing gays because you don't even know what you're talking about, it's common knowledge that Andrew Robinson said he was playing the ambiguous angle sexually but was hindered by the producers. You clearly have no idea what it's like to be a young gay person into scifi with absolutely ZERO overt representation or characters to identify with, even in something like Star Trek which is supposed to pride itself on its inclusivity and tolerance
In all honesty his genetic enhancements always apperead to me stitched on forcefully on Bashirs character, as if someone at the production crew suddenly felt the need to bring another Spock/Data/Tuvok etc. character into the show. And id place a bet that this is exactly what happened. It didnt really make sense at all, as it meant, that all the emotions he had displayed, all personal growth he had experienced during the show were just a lie. Also it made his character boring, just a copy of a copy really.
Well Garak himself noticed that Bashir smile changed, became colder. Also Bashir became less emotional, claiming that this is his true self that he has no longer to hide. His personality certainly changed. @@DomR1997
@@elizasnow9661 Yeah, something about cheapening the talents and accomplishments of the character, while making him too capable, which diminishes how interesting the character can be.
DS9 had such great characters. Quark, Garak, Odo, Kira, even the Fed characters were intriguing to watch. I mean, they made WORF a dynamic, appreciable person.
@Jaegar Ultima yes. A villain is a bad person, a criminal, tyrant, etc. An antagonist is the enemy(not necessarily violent it very well could be your sibling getting to ride shotgun) of the protagonist, a protagonist could be a supervillain and the antagonist could be a superhero for instance.
There was something about the Garak that I always admired. You were foolish to actually trust him but if you ever needed a loyal friend or ally, he was most likely on your short list!
It's especially interesting that the writers planted these little seeds for that revelation, considering they didn't even conceive of it until they wrote it into season 5.
@@toamatau8785 Klingons are notoriously difficult to kill, its why they make shit doctors according to Martok (why get good at medicine when you're naturally so durable if the attack isn't instantly lethal you'll probably shrug it off?) In the case of the lethian, it was probably Kors redundant nervous system that saved his life.
+Evil Kirk Elim is one of my favourite Star Trek characters and was always a draw for me in DS9. His lunches with Dr. Bashir were highlights for me. Andrew Robinson nailed Garak.
I loved this scene... G showed that his “friendship” was more “honored foe” and that he was happy and comfortable with that.... and happy that B was finally catching on to this being the situation instead of feeling like they were buddies....
He realized the founders intentions towards Cardassia long before anyone else (that they held a grudge over Enabran Tain trying to destroy the founders home world), Garak had no choice but to side with the Federation.
Garak may still see the vision of himself that he once was back in The Order, but in the end during War, he stuck his neck out for the Federation. Yes, he loved his homeland and yes he was a patriot, but deep down I think that life on DS9 humanized him more than he'd like to admit. There were more than a few occasions he could have sold them all out and he didn't. It wasn't because he didn't realized he could do it, it was because he chose not to. He threw in his dice with the Federation.
This episode was amazing, with the perfect amount of dramatic moments contrasted by hilarious situations, and this ending was brilliant. Episodes with Garak never fail to make me so happy I get ridiculously giddy for hours after.
@sunnchilde Actually, the only reason he threw his dice with the Federation was so that he could use them to free Cardassia. Everything he does is for his world. While he was affected by his time on DS9 and befriending the races and allies of the Federation, he will always choose Cardassia. He was raised all his life to serve it.
I love the little arm pat Garak does at the end. It's a nice callback to how handsy Garak got with Julian when they first met and how comfortable their relationship was.
@blossommorphine Perhaps I'm romanticizing Garak. But seeing his complete body of work I feel like I know Garak pretty well. He is still dangerous, but he's not quite the same man who first showed up at the station. It's like Quark said, The Fed has a way of crawling under the skin & changing you more than you realize. In the Order he was viper, but on DS9, among humans & Fed values, I think he grew as a person. In the Order I don't think he ever had real friend. And it changed him. It grew him.
I think it's also because, as Garak says later, Tain made Garak into a carbon copy of himself. But once exiled, and completely removed from Tain's influence and presence, Garak had to become his own person. The fact that Tain was an absolute monster of a father helped alienate him further.
I remember in one of the early episodes Dr. Bashir's excitment (may have been the first to introduce Garak) that he felt Garak, "the eyes and the ear's of the Cardassian empire", made contact with him. The only Cardassian to stay behind, this man who tended to mending cloth and making suits, may in fact be a spy. I think that excited Bashir beyond belief.
Garak was also basically propositioning Bashir for sex in that initial meeting. Andrew Robinson says it outright, and Sid was totally down with that idea. But the studio said no way and they had to tone it down.
@@annehaight9963they had to wait almost twenty years to have their time together in the live action fanfic, Little Achievements. It's on TH-cam. They are still sublime together the way they should have been if the network hadn't forced the writers to bail on the concept.
Sidenote: those blue ceramic mugs were an excellent choice. These types of cups with strangely wide bases are a simple design trick to prevent the cups from tipping over and spill their content. If they do tip, they tend to fall back down before they completely fall over. They would be an excellent choice for a space station, just like they are on cruise ships or moving trains.
@blossommorphine I would say that there is a little more to that. The fact that he hated to interrogate Odo and then didn't share his secret shows that Garak learned compassion. Fun part is and I don't know how intentional this is but mammals have a great evolutionary bases for compassion while reptiles don't but among sentient species compassion should prove very useful.
The creators of Star Trek missed a huge opportunity of a spinoff show about Garek rebuilding Cardassia with the help of people from other planets - The Federation, the Klingon's etc. It would have been great.
0:35 We had some of those wide based coffee cups, they were popular in the 1980s-1990s... Glad to see they make it to the far future on Deep Space 9 ! :-)
Rocks and Shoals, Season 6.2: Elim Garak: [while doing a survey, Nog won't allow Garak to get behind him] What are you doing? Nog: Following orders. The Captain told us to scan for fresh water or vegetation that might be... Elim Garak: [interrupting] You know precisely what I mean. You're deliberately trying to stay behind me and I want to know why. Does this have something to do with that unfortunate business between you and me last year? Nog: You tied me up and threatened to kill me. Elim Garak: There were extenuating circumstances. Nog: It happened. So you can either stay in front of me, or beside me. But I won't turn my back on you again. Elim Garak: Cadet... *there may be hope for you yet*
Andrew Robinson and Louise Fletcher between them raised DS9 from the best Star Trek series to one of the best TV series ever. Thank you to both of them and may Louise Fletcher rest in peace.
My parents used to use mugs just like those when travelling in their RV. The flared bottom shape kept liquids inside when going around turns and the rubber on the bottom kept them from sliding off the dashboard. I laughed when I first noticed them on the show!
Deep Space Nine character building was so damn good. Garak appearing on screen always kept me curious about him and wanting more, glad he was a reoccurring character. Can never get tired of his smirks or intriguing dialogue.
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"You see me as a villain, a scheming scoundrel who lurks behind the scenes pulling strings like some arcane puppet-master with sinister intentions. Well, I, for one, am flattered."
Where is this from? It sounds familiar
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Really? I made it myself.
Garak always get that little smirk on his face when he actually manages to get someone to admit they don't trust him. It's like the highest praise you can give him.
He considers that distrust to be a sign that the person has at least some awareness, is worthy of some respect. He covers the inherent danger that he represents behind a mask of civility and faux-charm, but he periodically tests people by letting the mask slip for a second, to see if they notice. If they do, then they are worth observing further. If they don't, then they are worthless fools, fit only for manipulating and disposing of once their value is spent. He spends the entire series testing the defenses of others, looking for weaknesses to exploit, respecting only those who catch him in the act.
@@TheZetaKai And also because distrust feeds speculation...and few veils are as effective at hiding the truth as having someone invent their own reasons for your behavior.
Like the time he was walking with Nog, and he made sure to keep Garak in front of him. A nice little scene.
It is a token of respect for his past work.
He's just a tailor. A great tailor, if i must say myself. How come that everyone around him treats him like he's something bigger than that? He doesn't give anything for others to suspect him. And still, his genius exudes every pore and some intelligent people is catching on! Nice to see someone is attentive :3
I look back on this now and I realise Julian’s genetically modified mind probably saved him.
Nicholas Dickens - ...and when *Garak* realized it (the genetic mods) as well...
@@grendelum Garak's probably known early on. After all, he seems like the sort who would did pretty deep into someone before trying to make an ongoing association to the degree seen here.
@@InfernosReaper That's a good point. Bashir's clearly not Khan-level of "dangerous," and it's always nice to have some blackmail on hand for whoever you associate with.
A V
Always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
@@InfernosReaper Any examination of even minute tissue samples would be sufficient to reveal genetic modification. I would be surprised if Garak hasn't taken samples from every single person on the station. Now, obviously, getting even small tissue samples from such a large population would be challenging to do without getting noticed. Unless you could get them to bring the samples to you. Say, perhaps... on their clothing?
Everything is better with Garak.
So, so true... my favoruite Star Trek character
Well... except if you were a Bajoran slave laborer but haha yeah Garak makes 99% of things better.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
Does the show ever clarify to what extent Garak participated in the Occupation? (Beyond misinformation, of course).
Unless you are trying to verify secret Dominion plans regarding the Romulan Star Empire.
@@mygaffer Why whatever do you mean? The Cardassian data rod obtained by the Romulans is 100% genuine. No verification is needed.
(Garak, this "User" fellow on TH-cam knows too much!)
This has got to be one of Garak's best moments, only he can turn someone distrusting him into compliment :)
Nog says to him "I will never turn my back on you again!"
Gerard C Fogarty “Cadet, There May Be hope for you yet.”
Well, Julian was so gullible in "Past Prologue" that seeing him becoming more intuitive in his thinking and more weary of the machinations of others shows a growth that Garak truly admires.
One of the things Garak is trying to teach Bashir is not to be so damn gullible all the time. The galaxy is not a nice place, and Bashir is going to get killed unless he wises up.
It's also why the Federation never really got along with the Cardassians (and to some extend, Romulans and Klingons); the politically correct attitude doesn't work thesame everywhere.
Garak was originally supposed to be a one episode character used simply to help introduce Dr. Bashir to the show. So glad the producers realized his potential and kept him on. One of the best, if not the best, Trek characters ever and portrayed by a wonderfully talented actor. For those who are not aware, he also portrayed Scorpio, the crazy killer in Dirty Harry.
And I bet that if Garak had been investigating the Scorpio killings....the movie would have been half as long-TOPS.
So Garak, an OC throw-away character, meant to introduce Dr. Bashir turned out to be a beloved main-stay character so popular that he's regarded as one of the best characters in ALL Star Trek.
Meanwhile, Dr. Bashir, a blatant rip-off of Stephen Franklin from Babylon 5, the same show that the entirety of DS9 was ripping off, was so hated for being a boring Self-Insert, that they turned him into a mutant/walking super-computer and made the Federation racist against mutants to try and make him interesting.
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nice.
Andrew Robinson also played in the movie Cobra with Sylvester Stallone, as a detective you just loved to hate. I think he read off the roles of the cops in Dirty Harry that completely disliked Harry.
There was a big rumor that Robin Williams was set to appear in DS9, likely inspired by his friend Whoopi Goldberg. I think Garak was being tailored for him. Andrew was fantastic, but after seeing Robin play in movies like Insomnia and One Hour Photo, I think Robin would have done that role amazingly, as well.
@@samsonguy10k A different role would've been better for a serious Williams, such as a Founder. That would've been classic.
Oh Please, Morn is clearly the best character. Though the writers did give him too much dialog.
Saying "I trust you" to someone like Garak would be a great disappointment.
He has lived a life dedicated to being untrustworthy.
It ain't honest work, but at least he's committed.
@@CeramicQuill Someone's gotta do it.
The writers putting these two as friends was a total ballsy risk and it ompletely paid off. I tip my hat to them for their foresight and imagination to see what these characters and actors could pull off. One of the best pairings since Riggs and Murtaugh.
+Jammsbro unfortunetly, you can't have an interesting friendship between two guys in a TV show without some stupid fucking horny teenage girls butchering these characters and pairing them up into some twisted and unreal homosexual hardcore relationship, where neither character even resembles himself anymore, and appereantly all they think and talk about is gagging on each other dicks.
+PetersaberHD Actually, Andrew Robinson originally played Garak as ambiguously gay with a possible (unreciprocated) attraction to Julian. The writers had to tell Robinson to tone it down and they wrote the stuff with Garak and Ziyal to dismiss the possibility.
I wouldn't say that Bashir and Garak are truly friends. Friendship involves at least some level of trust, and obviously nobody trusts Garak, especially not Bashir. Bashir always eats lunch with him on the Promenade, where there are plenty of people around, and he very rarely went anywhere alone with him.
+PetersaberHD Unfortunately you can't have a gay couple represented on any popular TV show because the shallow viewpoints of people like you scare off studio execs. Ironic considering ST was one of the first franchises to accept actors of colour and supposedly promote equality. At least attempt to broaden your mind and consider what romance between the two characters would entail, because right now you sound a lot like the nerdy guys who think that they haven't had many girlfriends because they're above 'stupid fucking horny' girls, when actually it's just because they're nasty people.
+PetersaberHD It just makes me so fucking angry to read the same old BS like this about horny fangirls inventing gays because you don't even know what you're talking about, it's common knowledge that Andrew Robinson said he was playing the ambiguous angle sexually but was hindered by the producers. You clearly have no idea what it's like to be a young gay person into scifi with absolutely ZERO overt representation or characters to identify with, even in something like Star Trek which is supposed to pride itself on its inclusivity and tolerance
The writers loved Garak ... and we are spoiled because of that fact, and Andrews talent. The scenes with Sid and Andy are always golden.
I just realized they were sowing the seeds of Julian's "enhancements" all the way back then.
In all honesty his genetic enhancements always apperead to me stitched on forcefully on Bashirs character, as if someone at the production crew suddenly felt the need to bring another Spock/Data/Tuvok etc. character into the show. And id place a bet that this is exactly what happened. It didnt really make sense at all, as it meant, that all the emotions he had displayed, all personal growth he had experienced during the show were just a lie. Also it made his character boring, just a copy of a copy really.
@@Daniel-rd6st How? His mods didnt disable his emotions, they made his brain able to process and retain more information.
Well Garak himself noticed that Bashir smile changed, became colder. Also Bashir became less emotional, claiming that this is his true self that he has no longer to hide. His personality certainly changed. @@DomR1997
They actually hadn’t it was mainly a last minute decision that his actor was pissed about.
@@elizasnow9661 Yeah, something about cheapening the talents and accomplishments of the character, while making him too capable, which diminishes how interesting the character can be.
I can't imagine this show without Garak!
DS9 had such great characters. Quark, Garak, Odo, Kira, even the Fed characters were intriguing to watch. I mean, they made WORF a dynamic, appreciable person.
@@thebighurt2495 Not forgetting Jeffery Combs!!
Garak delights in people's mistrust of him and that is one reason he's a great character.
I'd rather watch a hour of Garak and Bashir talking at lunch, than five minutes of ST:D
Good thing no ones forcing you to dipshit
My Lunch with Garak might work as a spin-off.
I'd be annoyed if it was only 5 minutes too!
@@Exunary someone isn't happy
@@IsaiahINRI Liking Discovery is like stealing a parking space. If you do it, someone will want to kill your family.
Distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done since you got off your shuttlecraft!
(Puts bat'leth up to throat) I did warn you not to trust me dear doctor.
That has got to be the weirdest pairing of Game of Thrones and star Trek but you get thumbs up from me
I see Varys as a kind of counterpart to Garak, though more "good", as it were.
Well... Dr. Bashir did play Doran Martell
garak always had the best dialogue
+Special Android
That is what the Cardassians really excel at.... conversation.
@Jaegar Ultima klingons villains?! Preposterous!
@Jaegar Ultima they were the antagonists, not the villains
@Jaegar Ultima yes. A villain is a bad person, a criminal, tyrant, etc. An antagonist is the enemy(not necessarily violent it very well could be your sibling getting to ride shotgun) of the protagonist, a protagonist could be a supervillain and the antagonist could be a superhero for instance.
There was something about the Garak that I always admired. You were foolish to actually trust him but if you ever needed a loyal friend or ally, he was most likely on your short list!
The one thing is, Bashir didn't cast him as the villain. The villain disguised himself as Garak and had Bashir trusting him because of it.
A good villain is one that believes he is a good guy.
Garak' is probably right in his assessment. Bashir most likely survived the Lethan attack because he was an Augment.
Ya I always saw this as a slight nudge that Garak new about Bashir.
It's especially interesting that the writers planted these little seeds for that revelation, considering they didn't even conceive of it until they wrote it into season 5.
@@SpydeyDan the Prophets work outside of our sense of linear time, after all. :)
And Kor took it like a champ, no problem at all.
@@toamatau8785 Klingons are notoriously difficult to kill, its why they make shit doctors according to Martok (why get good at medicine when you're naturally so durable if the attack isn't instantly lethal you'll probably shrug it off?)
In the case of the lethian, it was probably Kors redundant nervous system that saved his life.
Andrew Robinson really made this character gold!
Garak should have gotten is own spinoff show!
+Evil Kirk Elim is one of my favourite Star Trek characters and was always a draw for me in DS9. His lunches with Dr. Bashir were highlights for me. Andrew Robinson nailed Garak.
+Evil Kirk with a guest appearance by neelix!
Sitcom idea: Quark, Garak, and Odo are roommates in a New York apartment.
everybody loves Garak
Y'all know Andrew Robinson wrote a book about Garak called A Stitch in Time? It's like... about about Garak written by Garak.
also love how the first thing julian’s version of garak did was to push him against a wall :>
DS9's favorite couple
I loved this scene... G showed that his “friendship” was more “honored foe” and that he was happy and comfortable with that.... and happy that B was finally catching on to this being the situation instead of feeling like they were buddies....
The doctors smile at the end is so cute.
He realized the founders intentions towards Cardassia long before anyone else (that they held a grudge over Enabran Tain trying to destroy the founders home world), Garak had no choice but to side with the Federation.
I think that Garak's catchphrase is There's hope for you yet. He says it to Nog as well. Might have said it a few more times too.
Arguably one of the best characters in all of Star Trek....Garak was a great creation
When you think Tinker,Tailor, Soldier Spy....The first person i think of is Garak...He was written so well on DS9
every letter said from Garak's mouth played to perfection.
Garak may still see the vision of himself that he once was back in The Order, but in the end during War, he stuck his neck out for the Federation. Yes, he loved his homeland and yes he was a patriot, but deep down I think that life on DS9 humanized him more than he'd like to admit. There were more than a few occasions he could have sold them all out and he didn't. It wasn't because he didn't realized he could do it, it was because he chose not to. He threw in his dice with the Federation.
He ends up becoming the elected leader of Cardassia in the novels
Garak drank too much of that Federation root beer
This episode was amazing, with the perfect amount of dramatic moments contrasted by hilarious situations, and this ending was brilliant. Episodes with Garak never fail to make me so happy I get ridiculously giddy for hours after.
This is one of the moments that made Garak an awesome character.
That's completely irrelevant to the video.
@@dugowt9243 What a weird response.
Garak was such a well written and played - it was trully a great experience to watch the scenes with him.
Garak was one of the all-time best characters of DS9.
God I love this show. Classic 90's Television at it's best. Really wish they would re-release it with 4k HD resolution. Would be amazing
If someone were to call Garak a "frenemy" to his face I think he'd take it as a badge of honor.
He and Quark had a fascinating discussion about that over a glass of root beer ...
Garak is so GOOD, what a well-written character
@sunnchilde
Actually, the only reason he threw his dice with the Federation was so that he could use them to free Cardassia. Everything he does is for his world. While he was affected by his time on DS9 and befriending the races and allies of the Federation, he will always choose Cardassia. He was raised all his life to serve it.
That's natural isn't it?
"There's hope for you yet doctor."
I can't tell if that's a compliment or a warning
I have the feeling that in Cardassia they use the same word for both concepts...
Coming from Garak, it's probably both!
@@tjc-oj9czit is.
I love how, right before this line, Bashir looks uncomfortable because he thinks he’s insulted his friend. Afterwards, he just smiles and laughs.
no greater compliment to Garak than not trusting him
I love Garak.
Then again, everyone loves Garak.
One of many DS9 moments that triggers a big smile on my face.
Garak is one of the greatest characters on the show with the greatest lines. I relish every performance!
Those dorks.
Bashir being strong yet naive is exactly why Garak wants Bashir to sit on his face.
I like how Bashir thinks he's joking. XD
Garak is such an enjoyable character. And that actor.... how did he not win awards for the role?
Because the award organizations have always ignored science fiction as not being serious art.
Garak regards being cautious-not paranoid though-as one of the best general states for people.
I love the little arm pat Garak does at the end. It's a nice callback to how handsy Garak got with Julian when they first met and how comfortable their relationship was.
Nice little relationship, Garak commends him on not being so trusting.
Deep distrust is the basis of their friendship.
Thanks for posting! Was looking for it everywhere. Love Garak :-)
I love their dynamic. They play off eachother so well
@Gragthor I think he wants to do MORE than that!
@blossommorphine Perhaps I'm romanticizing Garak. But seeing his complete body of work I feel like I know Garak pretty well. He is still dangerous, but he's not quite the same man who first showed up at the station. It's like Quark said, The Fed has a way of crawling under the skin & changing you more than you realize. In the Order he was viper, but on DS9, among humans & Fed values, I think he grew as a person. In the Order I don't think he ever had real friend. And it changed him. It grew him.
I think it's also because, as Garak says later, Tain made Garak into a carbon copy of himself. But once exiled, and completely removed from Tain's influence and presence, Garak had to become his own person. The fact that Tain was an absolute monster of a father helped alienate him further.
Garak is one of the most interesting characters in Star Trek
I like DS9 because of the interacting of it's different characters.
That is 1 of my favorite parts in the series.
This conversation takes on a whole different light once you've seen some of the later episodes with Garak in them, doesn't it?
Imagine a spin-off detailing Garak's life before DS9
well Andrew Robinson did wright a book about that
@@sword4005yep, Garak is more unambiguously queer in it and it was never reprinted because of that
God, I remember watching this series for the first time and just loving these two characters banter with each other EVERY FRICKEN TIME!! Great memory.
I remember in one of the early episodes Dr. Bashir's excitment (may have been the first to introduce Garak) that he felt Garak, "the eyes and the ear's of the Cardassian empire", made contact with him. The only Cardassian to stay behind, this man who tended to mending cloth and making suits, may in fact be a spy. I think that excited Bashir beyond belief.
Garak was also basically propositioning Bashir for sex in that initial meeting. Andrew Robinson says it outright, and Sid was totally down with that idea. But the studio said no way and they had to tone it down.
@@annehaight9963they had to wait almost twenty years to have their time together in the live action fanfic, Little Achievements. It's on TH-cam. They are still sublime together the way they should have been if the network hadn't forced the writers to bail on the concept.
Everytime I realised garak was even in the episode I knew it was going to be a good one.
Garek is my favourite non-Starfleet character in all of Star Trek
Garak was such a good character and Andrew Robinson played him perfectly.
I love how Garak took it upon himself to cure Bashir of any naiveté about the world, like his own personal sensei of mistrust.
It wasn't just Garak, but Sloan, Ross, and to some extent O'Brian as well. Bashir was much like a child, innocent, it took those 4 to pop the bubble.
I cannot unsee the biscuit slipping off of Dr. Bashir's plate and how he glances at it but remembers it's not part of the scene
Sidenote: those blue ceramic mugs were an excellent choice. These types of cups with strangely wide bases are a simple design trick to prevent the cups from tipping over and spill their content. If they do tip, they tend to fall back down before they completely fall over. They would be an excellent choice for a space station, just like they are on cruise ships or moving trains.
@blossommorphine I would say that there is a little more to that. The fact that he hated to interrogate Odo and then didn't share his secret shows that Garak learned compassion. Fun part is and I don't know how intentional this is but mammals have a great evolutionary bases for compassion while reptiles don't but among sentient species compassion should prove very useful.
But the way Bashir smiles at Garak at the end!!!
Damn Rick Berman to the depths for not letting them be as gay as they wanted.
Garak is my favorite character
And being a spy's consort did change our Julian quite a lot.
One of the best characters ever in ST, and so brilliantly acted.
The creators of Star Trek missed a huge opportunity of a spinoff show about Garek rebuilding Cardassia with the help of people from other planets - The Federation, the Klingon's etc. It would have been great.
0:35 We had some of those wide based coffee cups, they were popular in the 1980s-1990s... Glad to see they make it to the far future on Deep Space 9 ! :-)
Garak, the most lovable scumbag on DS9.
I swear this was Garak's catchphrase.
Best character.
He respects anyone that does not trust him.
Rocks and Shoals, Season 6.2:
Elim Garak: [while doing a survey, Nog won't allow Garak to get behind him] What are you doing?
Nog: Following orders. The Captain told us to scan for fresh water or vegetation that might be...
Elim Garak: [interrupting] You know precisely what I mean. You're deliberately trying to stay behind me and I want to know why. Does this have something to do with that unfortunate business between you and me last year?
Nog: You tied me up and threatened to kill me.
Elim Garak: There were extenuating circumstances.
Nog: It happened. So you can either stay in front of me, or beside me. But I won't turn my back on you again.
Elim Garak: Cadet... *there may be hope for you yet*
These two had such an unusual dynamic for a friendship. It was awesome.
To Cardassians, distrust is a virtue.
These two were great 👍
Andrew Robinson and Louise Fletcher between them raised DS9 from the best Star Trek series to one of the best TV series ever. Thank you to both of them and may Louise Fletcher rest in peace.
Kai Winn was the Ultimate Karen.
Louise Fletcher walks with the Prophets now.
My parents used to use mugs just like those when travelling in their RV. The flared bottom shape kept liquids inside when going around turns and the rubber on the bottom kept them from sliding off the dashboard. I laughed when I first noticed them on the show!
God, I LOVE Garak! And I love that this was a key moment that marked progress in the development of Bashir's healthy skepticism.
OMG. Get a room, you two.
I so miss Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
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I think Garak was flattered he was the villain in this
Garak is the best Star Trek character.
Everyone needs a friend like Garak.
That, WAS SO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *dies* :D
@BradTroika
Exactly. he stopped interrogating Odo and even cried out to him. he clearly hated what he was doing.
"Because you're sTrOnG"
You can REALLY tell that Ira Stephen Behr originally intended for these guys to get together.
God, I love Garak. And that stupid, almost bashful smile and chuckle from Bashir at the end.
Garak and Quark are the best characters
Anyone: "No Garak! I don't trust you! I will never trust you!"
Garak: "Why, thank you."
Deep Space Nine character building was so damn good. Garak appearing on screen always kept me curious about him and wanting more, glad he was a reoccurring character. Can never get tired of his smirks or intriguing dialogue.