Bashir and Data bond over random space debris and breached security protocols. From 'Birthright, Part I' of TNG, and between 'Q-less' and 'Dax' of DS9.
I love how he referred to Data as a "synthetic life form." Not as an android, or a machine, or a robot, but as a unique life form. He understands and respects that Data is sentient and alive.
I wonder how that would be programmed, it would be considered a bug in the code, must tell person to stop experiment if asked to see what the machine does first then the experiment should go on check for error in logic, must tell person to stop experiment.
+Easy Grin Bashir is a genetically modified human, so he's at least peak human physical fitness. But unless he somehow has denser muscles, different muscle attachment points, or different muscle makeup than everyone else that'd only mean he's as strong as his height/weight would suggest. I doubt he's as strong as Worf.
This scene is even more awesome in hindsight. Bashir is genetically modified like Khan and he had to hide it his whole life, always finishing second to not raise suspicion. And then he meets someone stronger and smarter than him, yet he is accepted by his comrades. Of course Bashir would be interested in Data.
+Schwarzer Ritter Especially because Data embodies the hypocrisy of laws against genetic engineering. Apparently there was no legal obstacle to Dr. Soong *building* an artificial life form which possessed superior physical and mental capabilities, or to the finished product becoming a Starfleet officer. But when Bashir's status as an Augment became known he was at risk of being both kicked out of Starfleet and barred from practicing medicine! In the end, his father had to accept a prison sentence as part of plea bargain over the "crime" of having augmented Julian.
***** I guess the difference is that there is only one Data. Androids aren't competition. The possibility of mass-producing androids was discussed, but they weren't planning on building more than one per ship. Vulcans are smarter and stronger than humans, but they make maybe 2% of Starfleed, so they aren't competition either. But when everyone can be improved you start an upgrade race.
Schwarzer Ritter The thing about science is that it is *repeatable*. That is what separates it from the supernatural. Once you let the technological cat out of the bag that's it. They didn't mass produce Augments either. Khan and the others did not take over the world by being a huge superior army. The irony being that how often is the day saved because of some transhuman characters? Data (an android), Odo (a shapeshifter), the Doctor (a hologram programmed with the sum total of Federation medical knowledge), Seven-of-Nine (ex-Borg drone) and just about any Vulcan that happens to be handy. Evolutionary stagnation does not look quite so good within that context.
The brig would have been better. Then inform Riker know he found the culprit. Then Nashir would have to explain to Picard and Sisko why he didn’t follow regulations and ask permission...
Usually when people are amazed by Data, it's because of how advanced he is as an android, but Bashir is instead fascinated by how similar to a human he is. I really like that, a character who appreciates basics instead of advancement.
Missing the part where Data informs the bridge of the situation. Let's just take it to engineering, meanwhile Riker is sitting up there. "The fuck did Data go?"
Also a bridge officer would not have gone to sick bay personally but would either send a low ranking security officer or would simply contact the head of that department to report what is going on. But reallism is second to good story telling here 🙂
It's not a major issue and Data did successfully stop the unauthorized power tap. Riker probably just assumed that he delegated and trusted Data to handle it.
I always enjoyed how much Brent Spiner acts with his eyes. When Dr Bashir mentions him being personable you can see Data's brows shoot up, almost like he's thinking "Yes, yes I am actually."
Well, as Data says, he does have the scientific curiosity of humans, so that was, at first him going, "Ok, let's try this see what happens" and then in the same moment "Wait a second."
Dr. Bashir's unbridled enthusiasm in the early DS9 episodes, particularly in his exchanges with Garek, gave such liveliness to the show. Siddig "Sid" el Fadil took that character by the neck and made him his own. So much fun to watch the good Doctor evolve.
@@lastraven8575 Absolutely. Oh, and those access codes for the Cardassian Secret Service headquarters? He found them in a wallet that a forgetful customer left in his shop. Poor Garak can't catch a break!
That's one of the best compliments to give Data, since he has really put a lot of effort to become better at being personable, and Bashir had no idea. Two amazing characters.
I too miss when Star Trek was a more personal experience. A social, political and philosophical experience which inspired you to think about the future. Modern Star Trek is not really Star Trek.
I think that is a Star trek that exists mostly in the mind - or if you are generous the odd episode of Season One or two of TOS - as a good portion of the rest of it is bordering on melodrama, soap opera or simple action. The 24th Century stuff - especially season 3 onwards of TNG got a lot less well lets be honest "up itself" and less preachy and became more about the interpersonal relationship - by season 6 that was the entire show. It might be interesting to categorise given episodes by type though and see how it weights out overall. I think the reason it was ever thoughtful at all - as action scenes can take a lot of time to set up sometimes. Personally I like a balance and I wouldn't want 2 episodes that are to similar in theme to be shown back to back.
Bashir was always a really interesting character - being modified and enhanced, with super intelligence and such, then meeting data, someone who could have kept up with his own intellect, it must have been exciting and interesting. I wish the two had more scenes together, I am sure they would have made some good episodes.
Bashir was always a really interesting character until the people behind the scenes decided that because TOS had the logical, emotionless Spock and TNG had the android Data, they had to introduce a robot-like character into DS9 just to make it the same. And because they didn't want to introduce an actual new character, they just arbitrarily rewrote Bashir's back story and pretended that he had been genetically engineered all along. It was unimaginative, clumsy, and awful.
Classic "United Federation of Hold My Beer I Got This" moment. An alien device of unknown origin and function found on an alien world: "Let's take it on board a space ship with 1000 people on it, plug it into the main computer and see what it does. What could possibly go wrong?"
I remember a scene where Picard almost let the Enterprise selfdestruct sequence finish, just to know what happens after being vaporized. (Riker saved their asses at the final seconds) They better fall back to chasing money, they get cooked in the head without it...
I assume he already tried it on DS9 but didn't have enough processing power to analyze it. Of course, that only transfers a careless act from the Enterprise to DS9.
You’d make a terrible Starfleet Officer; standard operating procedure is to Do The Thing in the name of science and exploration and then if it turns out bad you just rely on your multiple polymath-level Academy education to fix the problem. Astoundingly, this method actually works, and has worked for like 200-straight years of every Federation ship doing it.
Liz not so Semple One episode of Star Trek Enterprise was supposed to be a crossover with Doctor Who. The one where they found a ship bigger in the inside.
Bashir was such a kind hearted person, until that whole dominion thing happened. You can actually watched him become more bitter and jaded each time he faces hardship.
I love Bashir. He's like a hyperactive puppy. xD Honestly, I didn't care for him at first, but he really grew on me by the second or third season. He started out as this smug, over-eager know-it-all, but once you looked past that, he was actually a dedicated officer and a sweet, loyal person. And his friendship with O'Brien was great.
To be fair, the first season didn't make him much more than a smug young doctor. His time with Garak and O'Brien did a lot to round out his personality.
A Wesley Crusher copy at the beginning but the writers realized that it wouldn't work. And a good acter making a character better. Wheaton was too young and as inexperienced actor to do the same thing.
@@beauxr.benoit1374 I'd argue that the main difference is that in universe, Bashir "earned" his smugness as well as being taken down a notch every now and then. The issue with Wesley was that he was a kid who was innately better at everything than those who studied to be great at it. Makes viewers feel like losers. And while Bashir was always smarter than your average viewer, he regularly failed (particularly at romance).
His antics and sas in Star Trek Online's victory is life storyline is hilarious. Especially when he even gets to do offhand humor with the Vorta Loris.
...so Data stops Bashir from testing the gizmo in the ship's sick bay, then invites him to accompany him to engineering where they can analyze it more thoroughly, then Bashir says "I didn't think you'd be so...personable," which Data seems to recognize immediately as a back-handed compliment, which he responds to with a "right this way" gesture. Something about the chemistry in those few seconds of interaction. Two great Star Trek characters meeting and matching wits.
@@2bituser569 I get that they didn’t want to build a new set but One would think on a ship that big there was be special labs isolated from the main computer for these kinds of experiments.
@@Torontodude20000 Thing is we have seen labs like best of both worlds lab was used for restoring Picard and later construction of Lahl sp? Data’s daughter.
Amazingly, this IS the meeting of the two shows royal smart persons. In light of what we learn from Bashir in DS9 season 5, he is an exceptionally brilliant Doctor.
I love this scene! Bashir and Data are two of my favorite Star Trek characters, and their interactions are great. I like that Bashir barely seemed to notice Data's unusual eye/skin color at all, only realizing he was talking to an android once Data told him his name. And Bashir's blatant hero-worship for Data is awesome.
Well to be fair... they see alien lifeforms of all shapes and sizes, so bashir might have assumed it as an alien and that on his home planet that is normal for them to have that kind of unusual eye/skin color.
It's the Enterprise. Most of their fame comes from the bridge officers being....pretty much the only ones allowed to do anything interesting on the entire ship.
Just like all those times when somebody messages the bridge with one of those "Captain there's something in sickbay/engineering/10forward/jefrystube#8 you really need to see. I am apparently incapable of telling you what it is over the com in even the most vague terms so drop everything you're doing and come down here." announcements. Things that make no sense in the context of a Starship's command structure or common sense but the reasons are immediately obvious when you consider that this is a TV show.
A scene that’s cool in the context of DS9 Season 1 and TNG Season 6, but is even more layered and great once we have that revelation of the true Bashir later on.
Bashir: "Hold my beer. I'm going to find out what this thing that looks kinda like either a bomb or a power core is. There's a small chance it could be a Medical Scanner." Data: "I'm sorry, but there is no beer holding in Sick Bay... Let's take it to Engineering, where we host the Exploratory Keggers, warp core and the main supply of explodium - the main energy source of every console on the ship. Especially on the Bridge and in in the preschool."
Hydrogen bombs, depending on the detonating mechanism can potentially work with plasma. The input would very likely not already be plasma, it would likely be some form of gas state material which will later be in the "plasma state" to compress fuel for fusion to ignite. The other method would strictly not work with plasma at all, in which a fission bomb is set off in order to cause a fusion explosion.
@@Eadweard76Seriously... Deanna Troi meeting Odo & Quark... instead of just Lwaxana? Data meeting Garak & Odo? Sisko meeting counselor Troi? Dr. Crusher & Deanna at the Dabo table just once? Data & Jadzia Dax collaboration on tech from the Gamma Quadrant?
@@MrXD117 I actually think that all those parts were interchangeable in those years: Ford - trans, GM - starter and Dodge - engine. But none uf them worked together. Lol
Pay attention to how fast Data's chair on the bridge was taken over. Was that guy standing there all day like "any moment he'll get up, and I can feel important."
actually I think he was at a different station. That would make more sense. The other station was less critical, so it could stand to be unmanned until someone is called to the bridge. My problem is, why is Data at the con at all.
They're often the most endearing characters. All they really want is to "be a real boy". Who was it in Enterprise, or was there no such character in that series? I have yet to watch it, I'm halfway through Voyager now. already watched all the others.
Watching this after watching the later episodes of Gotham is fantastic. Alexander has aged and grown so much in his acting. In this he's so boyish and young and in Gotham he's so grim, mature, and sinister.
Dauntless3788 Well, he was barely 28yo when this was filmed. But yes, he did have a baby face and look younger than he was...especially when he did that youthful excitement thing.
I loved seeing Bashir then be the main doctor in DS9! And than Zimmerman makes an appearance in DS9 which we all know his EMH becomes the main doctor in Voyager! I love these little nods
Well, First Contact was an extension of the TNG experience. After all, it was Picard who was kidnapped by the Borg and the Enterprise crew rescued him. The DS9 crew had their hands full with the Dominion. The producers wanted to keep the two storylines apart.
During Trek's hey day, every current show was used to introduce the new show. TNG introduced DS9 in the above episode (TNG had two seasons left), and DS9 reigned in Voyager. You can also check out the tense scene between Cmdr. Sisko and Picard on TH-cam.
This thing is pretty incredible when you take him to mind that doctor soon created data to be the answer to Khan. A Genetically Enhanced human being and Julian is also a Genetically Enhanced human being it's kind of like cousins meeting each other in a way.
A minor power drain is off course worthy of Data's direct attention, and of course the Enterprise computers have no way of blocking unauthorized accesses. Or, we could have just had a slightly different scene where Bashir had requested the access but had some technical issues that involved requesting Data's help. Nitpicky, I know, but details are everything.
"What's it?" "I dunno... some device of past technology by a company called Cyberdyne Systems" "Cool! Let's switch it on and see if we can improve its performance..." (Borgs: *facepalm)
To be honest, Cyberdyne Systems is smarter and have more potential than the borg all things considered, their habit of assimilating and adapting means they do not technically advance in technology.
Such a good scene. Bashir is underrated in DS9, he's just this naive but loving guy who enjoys his job and sees the best in everyone. Telling how Bashir asks Data questions that not even Geordi or Troi ever thought of.
I like Data's brief confusion at the fact that Bashir thinks he's personable. A very well acted moment by Brent Spiner. Of course pretty much every moment of Spiner on screen was well acted.
There should have been more crossover between TNG and DS9 like Sisko taking command of the Enterprise due to Picard and Riker being held hostage by a hostile force or Picard having a mission with the DS9 crew.
DS9 was located at the furthest end of the Alpha Quadrant while the Enterprise was mostly Alpha Quadrant. The bad blood betwern Picard and Sisko was never truly resolved, and both captains knew it.
@@SantomPh I think they put that behind them in the Return of Sisko Star Trek Books.. I believe it was Picard who helped bring him back? Then again that's technically Non Canon.. BUT if they were planning to do something for S2 of Picard.. Just sayin.. that is of course if Kurtzman doesn't decide to blow up Bajor and Deep Space Nine because that's not Diverse enough..
I could not help but notice Bashir's elbow leaning on the keyboard. Remind's me of Scotty and that clone machine which he tried to talk to in that movie with the whales -"Computer, oh computer".
@@misslanapford9169 How about: "Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso" (Pablo Picasso)
I love when Bashir initially requests help, Data immediately decides to do it, but then realizes "Wait, no, im supposed to be confronting him!" He is immediately intrigued by this strange device and is eager to see what it does.
@Isaac Mounce You are mistaken. The OP clearly stated these were her 'two favorite Star Trek Trek dudes'. Therefore, your response holds no validity in overturning that fact. Personal preference is unique to each individual and cannot be invalidated by another person's subjective opinion.
I *completely* forgot this happened!😂 I've been binging the Hell out of _DS9_ Now I'm gonna have to go back and watch _Birthright, Pt. 1_ for context☺️ Thank you🥰
Ironically, it's an augment talking to the ""great great grandson" of the man who helped CREATE augments. From a certain POV, Data and Bashir are cousins. ***CORRECTION***: Arik Soong didn't CREATE augments. He may have initiated the process that Bashir ultimately received AND THEN switched to cybernetics which ultimately produced Data. In addition, Lore could be considered a typical augment and the perfect example of not learning from past mistakes. That would make more sense, continuity wise.
Made more interesting my the Saddig becoming worried that his character would end up as just another Data in DS9 with that plot thread. Yet seeing the two here, I can't help but feel that the two should have played off each other moreover. I mean, they have a different kind of chemistry than Bashir O'Brian or Bashir Garak. I think Bashir is one of the most relatable people for Data and the could have a bit of a brotherly relationship that Data couldn't get from Lore.
"It would have taken me days to analyze this device with the computer I have on Deep Space Nine." - So how long, Doctor Bashir, would have it taken you to open a comm channel to the Enterprise and say, "Hey, I have this cool looking thing from the Gamma Quadrant that I want analyzed and my computer is too slow, since we're explorers and all and you're docked, mind if I used yours?" instead of sneaking aboard and using their equipment without permission and opening you up to possible court martial charges?
Pretty much. It's not as if there is a lack of security officers aboard when Worf isn't around. Hell, at the very least Data should have been accompanied by two Enterprise security officers in case someone who is NOT the station's CMO snuck aboard the Federation flagship from Deep Space Nine!
Its all to make the plot more interesting. This way we see data and bashir interact, instead of some security officer bitchin at data. I love star trek, but they did that a lot.
At the time, it wasn't written in that he was genetically enhanced. Apparently that plot point was a last minute addition to add a sense of dread to the episode it was introduced in, and the actor, Alexander Siddig, being the last person to hear about the change, was at first not happy saying that it came right out of nowhere.
I love DS9, but compared to the rest of the staff, Bashir always seemed to fall short for me. He got some character development, and had a turnaround with Miles, but as far as being a character one would remember, like Kira, Odo, or even Garrak, I don't think he shined very brightly.
David Rauschenbach He most probally did, in the movies on the Enterprise E, or when the Enterprise kept docking at Earth in Voyager, he probaly had a look at the EMH, but never the ECH because it doesn't exist in the Alpha or Beta Quadraunt.
David Rauschenbach You know, that doctor from voyager had some of the best character development of anyone I've ever seen in any show. Went from being a personalitiless hologram to a self contained mobile doctor that could be easily confused for a fully functional human.
"I found this alien USB drive in a parking lot and decided to plug it into the ship to see what it had on it."
And now it is telling me that the computer is infected with something and it's offering to sell me an antivirus program to protect us from it.
Why does this sound like the premise of a Rick and Morty episode?
Superfly Toad which leads to a hilarious episode of The Orville...
And then all the replicators inexplicably began turning out live turkeys.
That is absolutely unacceptable!
Move it immediately to engineering and plug it into the warp core!
I love how he referred to Data as a "synthetic life form." Not as an android, or a machine, or a robot, but as a unique life form. He understands and respects that Data is sentient and alive.
Yep. Key Star Trek thing going on here. No fear, no discrimination, kust curiosity and acceptance.
Considering what Julian himself is, that is kind of ironic
That's because Bashir is a gelf.
@@Stevonniewolf3113 A gelf?
@@redpyramid1914 Bashir is a genetically enginered life form or gelf.
"See if you can boost the power output to 65%."
"Bitch, I can boost anything to anythi-wait a minute..."
LOL🤣
LMAO
Can he boost to 65% of the unknown 100% max of the unknown device. K. Who knows?
Wait a minute...
THAT'S ILLEGAL!
Yep. For a moment there even _Data_ got carried away by Bashir's enthusiasm.
I love how Data actually goes to do it for a moment before he remembers he's supposed to be stopping this guy.
I noticed that too. How many trillions of computations were required until he made that realization? 😁
I love how Data starts to do what Bashir said before stopping himself. That's so him. xD
-- Yeah, he's like "Hold up mayne! What tf you doing...??"
I wonder how that would be programmed, it would be considered a bug in the code,
must tell person to stop experiment
if asked to see what the machine does first then the experiment should go on
check for error in logic,
must tell person to stop experiment.
Hakudohshi is Bashir superstrong? is he stronger then Worf?
Data likes to help people - he's programmed to help people - so that sort of kicked in for a moment I expect.
+Easy Grin Bashir is a genetically modified human, so he's at least peak human physical fitness. But unless he somehow has denser muscles, different muscle attachment points, or different muscle makeup than everyone else that'd only mean he's as strong as his height/weight would suggest. I doubt he's as strong as Worf.
seeing Bashir's eyes light up when Data introduces himself is a testament to his acting
@Major Probelms chill dude
@Major Problems You must be fun at parties
@Major Problems what's up your arse?
yeah bashir is a great actor
Shame the following two lines are delivered like purest pine
This scene is even more awesome in hindsight.
Bashir is genetically modified like Khan and he had to hide it his whole life, always finishing second to not raise suspicion. And then he meets someone stronger and smarter than him, yet he is accepted by his comrades. Of course Bashir would be interested in Data.
+Schwarzer Ritter Especially because Data embodies the hypocrisy of laws against genetic engineering. Apparently there was no legal obstacle to Dr. Soong *building* an artificial life form which possessed superior physical and mental capabilities, or to the finished product becoming a Starfleet officer. But when Bashir's status as an Augment became known he was at risk of being both kicked out of Starfleet and barred from practicing medicine! In the end, his father had to accept a prison sentence as part of plea bargain over the "crime" of having augmented Julian.
***** I guess the difference is that there is only one Data. Androids aren't competition. The possibility of mass-producing androids was discussed, but they weren't planning on building more than one per ship.
Vulcans are smarter and stronger than humans, but they make maybe 2% of Starfleed, so they aren't competition either.
But when everyone can be improved you start an upgrade race.
Schwarzer Ritter
The thing about science is that it is *repeatable*. That is what separates it from the supernatural. Once you let the technological cat out of the bag that's it.
They didn't mass produce Augments either. Khan and the others did not take over the world by being a huge superior army.
The irony being that how often is the day saved because of some transhuman characters? Data (an android), Odo (a shapeshifter), the Doctor (a hologram programmed with the sum total of Federation medical knowledge), Seven-of-Nine (ex-Borg drone) and just about any Vulcan that happens to be handy.
Evolutionary stagnation does not look quite so good within that context.
+Daniel S First: That was the nerdiest conversation I have ever read on youtube. Second: You are both right.
Marc Nehren
Is it? It is only a matter of decades until we can modify humans.
"Let's take it to engineering." *Data leads him to the brig*
Haha this actually made me lol
...or the transporter room
This made me Lol, too. or Data Leads him to the garbage shoot.
@@IamBuffal0 do you mean the transporter room? 😉
The brig would have been better. Then inform Riker know he found the culprit. Then Nashir would have to explain to Picard and Sisko why he didn’t follow regulations and ask permission...
Hey, let's just hook this unknown alien device up to the ship and see what happens.
Isn't that standard procedure?
To be fair. The Enterprise D at this point is a super computer compared to the Commodore 64 that runs DS9 It was an easy decision on bashir's part.
he said it'd take days, for an analysis like that, unless it's a emergency, that's #StarfleetUtopiaProblems right there
That 's me the first two weeks with my Microsoft Surface. "I'm just going to plug this into every USB jack in my house to see what happens!"
LOL
I don't remember this interaction I guess I'll have to watch the whole series over again.
Start with The Cage, it's the only way to be sure.
@@darthkek1953 X D
Yep. That's clearly the only possible, or reasonable response to watching a 2-minute clip on TH-cam!;)
@@darthkek1953 No, its Enterprise that actually pull everything together. The only good that show was worth.
In this same episode, Worf meets up with someone who claims that his father Mogh is alive and being held captive by The Romulans
Usually when people are amazed by Data, it's because of how advanced he is as an android, but Bashir is instead fascinated by how similar to a human he is. I really like that, a character who appreciates basics instead of advancement.
And a little while later, we learn why he appreciates simplicity (spoilers!)
Ah yes, because *SPOILERS BELOW*
Because he's been genetically enhanced as a child.
Actually, Commander Data's being similar to a human IS advancement; remember, our goal for robots is toward artificial intelligence.
The writers hadn't come up with said [spoiler idea] yet though... that was written in later.
He doesn't see Data as a machine but as an equal.
Missing the part where Data informs the bridge of the situation. Let's just take it to engineering, meanwhile Riker is sitting up there. "The fuck did Data go?"
😂
hahahah
Also a bridge officer would not have gone to sick bay personally but would either send a low ranking security officer or would simply contact the head of that department to report what is going on. But reallism is second to good story telling here 🙂
It's not a major issue and Data did successfully stop the unauthorized power tap. Riker probably just assumed that he delegated and trusted Data to handle it.
@@jochenweidler8645 nah, Ransom would head the security team just in case of glory!
Data has to be the politest Star Fleet Officer of all time.
Watch him command USS Sutherland, though...
LCDR Hobbs pissed Data off...which was an impressive feat then.
A real protocol droid.
Starfleet, not Star Fleet.
That's like spelling Star Trek as Star Track, or Star Wars as Starwar.
Because he doesn't have any emotions and can't be insulted.
@@Locutus You mean Locutus of Borg. We can all be pedantic.
I always enjoyed how much Brent Spiner acts with his eyes. When Dr Bashir mentions him being personable you can see Data's brows shoot up, almost like he's thinking "Yes, yes I am actually."
I love that Bashir was respectful and friendly to Data.
Data out ranks him..
@@joehardee Bashir gave no shits about rank except to sisko tbh
autistic solidarity /hj
@@maxotis4686 Even then he wasn't afraid of calling Sisko out when he disagreed with him
@@maxotis4686 Wasn't Bashir a doctor on DS9?
"And you are commander..."
"Data"
O.O
I know right? The look on his face is priceless :D
Data: And you are Dr Bashir, I presume?
😄 I HAVE to freeze that moment when I see this scene.
His gorgeous big eyes got even bigger-Like a kid on Christmas!
He activated his awestruck fanboy met a celebrity orgasmic expression.
0:40 I like Data's " Okay bro', let's do this... Oh wait..." face :D
+STibi I secretly believe Data actually knows all those emotions but chose to feign ignorance so he could troll people with it all the time.
I think, from now on, that is the assumption I am going to operate under LOL
ya! he was about to help him solve a problem!!! :D
Well, as Data says, he does have the scientific curiosity of humans, so that was, at first him going, "Ok, let's try this see what happens" and then in the same moment "Wait a second."
A very human reaction for him.
I loved how big JULIAN'S eyes got when Data introduced himself-Like a kid getting a bicycle for Christmas
So adorable
Dr. Bashir's unbridled enthusiasm in the early DS9 episodes, particularly in his exchanges with Garek, gave such liveliness to the show. Siddig "Sid" el Fadil took that character by the neck and made him his own. So much fun to watch the good Doctor evolve.
True but I think the interactions with Andrew robinson elevated him to higher tier just because of the back and forth
yeah but I don't get what's so special about Garak, he's just a simple tailor, after all. He even says so himself, about a thousand times.
@@tommythecat4961 it's always good to see an unremarkable doctor not special in any way talk to people who are pacifists like himself 😁
@@lastraven8575 Absolutely. Oh, and those access codes for the Cardassian Secret Service headquarters? He found them in a wallet that a forgetful customer left in his shop. Poor Garak can't catch a break!
@@tommythecat4961 He's no simple tailor!
After all, he used to be a gardener!
That's one of the best compliments to give Data, since he has really put a lot of effort to become better at being personable, and Bashir had no idea. Two amazing characters.
I love how data was eager to help for a few seconds before remembering why he came.
I miss the golden age of Star Trek.
+SpazzyMcGee1337 you mean latinum age right
This show was always my favorite...
I too miss when Star Trek was a more personal experience. A social, political and philosophical experience which inspired you to think about the future.
Modern Star Trek is not really Star Trek.
I think that is a Star trek that exists mostly in the mind - or if you are generous the odd episode of Season One or two of TOS - as a good portion of the rest of it is bordering on melodrama, soap opera or simple action.
The 24th Century stuff - especially season 3 onwards of TNG got a lot less well lets be honest "up itself" and less preachy and became more about the interpersonal relationship - by season 6 that was the entire show.
It might be interesting to categorise given episodes by type though and see how it weights out overall.
I think the reason it was ever thoughtful at all - as action scenes can take a lot of time to set up sometimes.
Personally I like a balance and I wouldn't want 2 episodes that are to similar in theme to be shown back to back.
same
" I got this device from a Nigerian Prince... apparently, if you put $100 in, it gives you millions in return.."
corny
A device bought from a Ferengi Trader for 5 gold pressed bars of Latinum.
I have just had one of those emails. In the bin it went.
but does the offer come with a free toaster ?
@@andrewalderman9489 yes. you take it, you're toast
Data starts smiling like a kid after Bashir says "It's an honor to meet you, sir."
Bashir was always a really interesting character - being modified and enhanced, with super intelligence and such, then meeting data, someone who could have kept up with his own intellect, it must have been exciting and interesting. I wish the two had more scenes together, I am sure they would have made some good episodes.
Bashir was always a really interesting character until the people behind the scenes decided that because TOS had the logical, emotionless Spock and TNG had the android Data, they had to introduce a robot-like character into DS9 just to make it the same. And because they didn't want to introduce an actual new character, they just arbitrarily rewrote Bashir's back story and pretended that he had been genetically engineered all along. It was unimaginative, clumsy, and awful.
Bashir would have given Data a run for his money in the intellect department.
Or vice versa.
@@omp199 Then you missed the fact that DS9 already had their "emotionless outsider" from the pilot episode; Odo.
@@hweidigiv Odo wasn't like a robot, though.
Classic "United Federation of Hold My Beer I Got This" moment.
An alien device of unknown origin and function found on an alien world:
"Let's take it on board a space ship with 1000 people on it, plug it into the main computer and see what it does. What could possibly go wrong?"
I remember a scene where Picard almost let the Enterprise selfdestruct sequence finish, just to know what happens after being vaporized. (Riker saved their asses at the final seconds)
They better fall back to chasing money, they get cooked in the head without it...
Better yet, let's hook it up to the holodeck! Nothing bad ever happens there!
I assume he already tried it on DS9 but didn't have enough processing power to analyze it. Of course, that only transfers a careless act from the Enterprise to DS9.
You’d make a terrible Starfleet Officer; standard operating procedure is to Do The Thing in the name of science and exploration and then if it turns out bad you just rely on your multiple polymath-level Academy education to fix the problem.
Astoundingly, this method actually works, and has worked for like 200-straight years of every Federation ship doing it.
Seriously, they need a dead desert like world to setup a sector 51 lab to analyze alien tech.
I'm a sucker for crossovers. Always was, always will be.
I'm holding out for three different crossovers:
1. Star Wars and Star Trek
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender and Star Wars.
3. MCU and DCEU.
+Reality Rejection Service I'm waiting on Star Trek and Doctor Who.
star trek and doctor who already happended if you read comics.
There was an X-Men/Star Trek crossover comic. Thought you might be interested, dunno if you can still get it or not though.
Liz not so Semple One episode of Star Trek Enterprise was supposed to be a crossover with Doctor Who. The one where they found a ship bigger in the inside.
Bashir was such a kind hearted person, until that whole dominion thing happened. You can actually watched him become more bitter and jaded each time he faces hardship.
Not to mention Section 31
I love Bashir. He's like a hyperactive puppy. xD
Honestly, I didn't care for him at first, but he really grew on me by the second or third season. He started out as this smug, over-eager know-it-all, but once you looked past that, he was actually a dedicated officer and a sweet, loyal person. And his friendship with O'Brien was great.
To be fair, the first season didn't make him much more than a smug young doctor. His time with Garak and O'Brien did a lot to round out his personality.
A Wesley Crusher copy at the beginning but the writers realized that it wouldn't work. And a good acter making a character better. Wheaton was too young and as inexperienced actor to do the same thing.
@@beauxr.benoit1374 I'd argue that the main difference is that in universe, Bashir "earned" his smugness as well as being taken down a notch every now and then. The issue with Wesley was that he was a kid who was innately better at everything than those who studied to be great at it. Makes viewers feel like losers. And while Bashir was always smarter than your average viewer, he regularly failed (particularly at romance).
His antics and sas in Star Trek Online's victory is life storyline is hilarious. Especially when he even gets to do offhand humor with the Vorta Loris.
Bashir's eyes when he finds out it's data though- this boy
I know, he's so pure 😂💜
...so Data stops Bashir from testing the gizmo in the ship's sick bay, then invites him to accompany him to engineering where they can analyze it more thoroughly, then Bashir says "I didn't think you'd be so...personable," which Data seems to recognize immediately as a back-handed compliment, which he responds to with a "right this way" gesture. Something about the chemistry in those few seconds of interaction. Two great Star Trek characters meeting and matching wits.
He stopped Bashir because he didn't have authorization. Data can take the device to engineering for study without the Captain's direct permission.
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Wouldn’t a lab be more appropriate than 20 feet from the warp core?
@@2bituser569 I get that they didn’t want to build a new set but One would think on a ship that big there was be special labs isolated from the main computer for these kinds of experiments.
@@Torontodude20000
Thing is we have seen labs like best of both worlds lab was used for restoring Picard and later construction of Lahl sp? Data’s daughter.
@@2bituser569 you are right, I do remember those episodes.
I also remember they had labs in the episodes Lessons, and The Chase and Suspicions.
"I've heard so much about you"... but yet never seen a picture of him
Maybe he wanted to hear him say it.
I guess the Deep Space Nine computers aren't sophisticated enough to display images. Text only.
I don’t think he ever saw a picture of him. Look at the way Bashir reacts when Data tells him who he is.
"Doctor Bashir, I presume?"
Like a kid at Christmas-So Adorable! Yes, I'm totally in love with ALEXANDER SIDDIG, in case you're wondering!
I love that, he ges to help and stops him self like "wait what am I doing?"
I believe Data himself once said that he has the curiosity of humans, but not the emotional connection to go with it.
Amazingly, this IS the meeting of the two shows royal smart persons. In light of what we learn from Bashir in DS9 season 5, he is an exceptionally brilliant Doctor.
The look in Bashir’s eyes when he realizes who Data is. Priceless.
"Go down there and see what's going on. There aren't any security cameras or microphones on this ship... because... plot armor."
I love this scene! Bashir and Data are two of my favorite Star Trek characters, and their interactions are great. I like that Bashir barely seemed to notice Data's unusual eye/skin color at all, only realizing he was talking to an android once Data told him his name. And Bashir's blatant hero-worship for Data is awesome.
Well to be fair... they see alien lifeforms of all shapes and sizes, so bashir might have assumed it as an alien and that on his home planet that is normal for them to have that kind of unusual eye/skin color.
It's too bad there weren't more interactions as this in the series. Bashir & Data treated each other with nothing but respect here.
Why send a bridge officer? They should've sent security. This is exactly why they have them on board.
-- Data likes to get personal, get his feet dirty. =] He is fully functional, after all.
Totally agree. Poor writing and editing.
All the security officers were on shore leave at DS9, using Quark's holosuites so they can practice getting killed.
It's the Enterprise.
Most of their fame comes from the bridge officers being....pretty much the only ones allowed to do anything interesting on the entire ship.
Just like all those times when somebody messages the bridge with one of those "Captain there's something in sickbay/engineering/10forward/jefrystube#8 you really need to see. I am apparently incapable of telling you what it is over the com in even the most vague terms so drop everything you're doing and come down here." announcements.
Things that make no sense in the context of a Starship's command structure or common sense but the reasons are immediately obvious when you consider that this is a TV show.
A scene that’s cool in the context of DS9 Season 1 and TNG Season 6, but is even more layered and great once we have that revelation of the true Bashir later on.
Bashir: "Hold my beer. I'm going to find out what this thing that looks kinda like either a bomb or a power core is. There's a small chance it could be a Medical Scanner."
Data: "I'm sorry, but there is no beer holding in Sick Bay... Let's take it to Engineering, where we host the Exploratory Keggers, warp core and the main supply of explodium - the main energy source of every console on the ship. Especially on the Bridge and in in the preschool."
"Oh, its not a medical device, Sir, its an H-Bomb from ancient terran history and were about to get toasted"
LOL
Galen Marek H-bombs don't take plasma input
Hydrogen bombs, depending on the detonating mechanism can potentially work with plasma.
The input would very likely not already be plasma, it would likely be some form of gas state material which will later be in the "plasma state" to compress fuel for fusion to ignite.
The other method would strictly not work with plasma at all, in which a fission bomb is set off in order to cause a fusion explosion.
"Oh, really? Darn... H-Bomb? That old, huh?.. I wonder if it still works."
"Let's take it to Engineering and find out."
Or a porn storage device.
I see a lot of Stan Laurel in Brent Spiner's facial expressions when he's acting as Data. Simply brilliant.
wish there where more cross overs between DS9 and Next Gen. Would've loved to see more interaction like this :)
Bashir and Data are so fantastic. I wouldn’t have minded more of them together.
This is something I felt we should have had more of. Could you have imagined the TNG crew getting a proper crossover episode or two in DS9?
RIIIIIIGHT!!;
Like imagine if Sisko met Picard! Wait...
Issue with this is that most of DS9s best seasons and episodes took place after the destruction of the enterprise D
Worf and O'Brien wasn't enough crossover for you?
@@Eadweard76Seriously... Deanna Troi meeting Odo & Quark... instead of just Lwaxana?
Data meeting Garak & Odo?
Sisko meeting counselor Troi?
Dr. Crusher & Deanna at the Dabo table just once?
Data & Jadzia Dax collaboration on tech from the Gamma Quadrant?
That's no alien device... it's quite clearly the starter out of a 1989 GMC Suburban.
Actually i was thinking it was a transmission from a 1981 Ford Escort.
@@christopheroliver7255 actually i believe its the engine of a 1993 dodge dart
@@MrXD117 I actually think that all those parts were interchangeable in those years: Ford - trans, GM - starter and Dodge - engine. But none uf them worked together. Lol
@@christopheroliver7255 will we ever have it all?
@@MrXD117 After all the years we have been building cars, you would think so.
Pay attention to how fast Data's chair on the bridge was taken over. Was that guy standing there all day like "any moment he'll get up, and I can feel important."
actually I think he was at a different station. That would make more sense. The other station was less critical, so it could stand to be unmanned until someone is called to the bridge. My problem is, why is Data at the con at all.
@@DVankeuren Data is the Operation's officer:3rd in Command of Enterprise.
I love Data's little "after you" wave of the hand at the end. He is EVER so personable :)
In TNG it is Data, in DS9 Odo and Voyager the EMH. They have a fondness for non-human-trying-to-be-human characters.
Every series needs their own Spock.
They're often the most endearing characters. All they really want is to "be a real boy". Who was it in Enterprise, or was there no such character in that series? I have yet to watch it, I'm halfway through Voyager now. already watched all the others.
...its the old 'Pinnochio Syndrome'.
Katarina S. (Sarcasm) In _Enterprise_ , they flipped the script and had a real boy trying to be a man, whozis playing Captain Archer.
Burnham in Discovery...
I had no idea this actually happened.
Watching this after watching the later episodes of Gotham is fantastic. Alexander has aged and grown so much in his acting. In this he's so boyish and young and in Gotham he's so grim, mature, and sinister.
Dauntless3788 Well, he was barely 28yo when this was filmed. But yes, he did have a baby face and look younger than he was...especially when he did that youthful excitement thing.
I loved seeing Bashir then be the main doctor in DS9! And than Zimmerman makes an appearance in DS9 which we all know his EMH becomes the main doctor in Voyager! I love these little nods
Data: Don't worry, I was annoying in the early seasons of my show as well. It will pass.
But IMO Wesley was far more annoying :-)
Wesley is adorable! Why all the hate on him?!
The best part is that most of Bashir being annoying was just him trying to act dumber and more affable to conceal his genetic engineering.
Wonder Bunny I love Wesley!
When was Data annoying? It's been a while, but I remember him being one of the more entertaining characters.
"You don't belong here."
"Come in and sit down! Enjoy yourself!"
1:06 it’s a crime the Bashir was left out of First Contact. Sisko, Bashir, and O’Brien should have been on the Defiant with Worf.
Agreed. It made no sense to me that the Defiant would go into a major battle against the borg without DS9's senior staff.
Well, First Contact was an extension of the TNG experience. After all, it was Picard who was kidnapped by the Borg and the Enterprise crew rescued him.
The DS9 crew had their hands full with the Dominion. The producers wanted to keep the two storylines apart.
Had no idea he was on this show! Also it's priceless the way data almost helps him in lieu of his orders.
During Trek's hey day, every current show was used to introduce the new show. TNG introduced DS9 in the above episode (TNG had two seasons left), and DS9 reigned in Voyager. You can also check out the tense scene between Cmdr. Sisko and Picard on TH-cam.
Yeah, like he's about to help him, then stops him self thinking "What am I doing?"
Bashir used the most nefarious most successful method of manipulating Data: politely asking
@@explodingplant2 How true, I find that is also helpful with today's AI.
This thing is pretty incredible when you take him to mind that doctor soon created data to be the answer to Khan. A Genetically Enhanced human being and Julian is also a Genetically Enhanced human being it's kind of like cousins meeting each other in a way.
1:50 Spiner doing his puzzled Stan Laurel impression. ;)
I love these kind of crossovers. Wish they'd done a few more of them.
Baltar at a young age. No blonde chick though...
Man, those two really do look similar.
I’ve only known Julian for 2 minutes and I love him already. 🥺💕
I love Data's line delivery of "I would be happy to do so..."
Two products of two different Noonien Soongs...cool.
Actually... one is Noonien SINGH, not Soong.
I don't know why, but this is exactly what I needed today.
A minor power drain is off course worthy of Data's direct attention, and of course the Enterprise computers have no way of blocking unauthorized accesses. Or, we could have just had a slightly different scene where Bashir had requested the access but had some technical issues that involved requesting Data's help. Nitpicky, I know, but details are everything.
Instead of contacting a local security guard, we better send one of our command crew from half way across the ship.
This show NEVER gets old. I love Star Trek.
This makes me wish we see Bashir in Picard. Would love to see him help find out more on synthetic humans and Data.
They'd just murder him in some gruesome way, while spouting expletives.
"What's it?"
"I dunno... some device of past technology by a company called Cyberdyne Systems"
"Cool! Let's switch it on and see if we can improve its performance..."
(Borgs: *facepalm)
To be honest, Cyberdyne Systems is smarter and have more potential than the borg all things considered, their habit of assimilating and adapting means they do not technically advance in technology.
There isn’t a single problem in Star Trek that can’t be solved by a complete diagnostic.
Such a good scene. Bashir is underrated in DS9, he's just this naive but loving guy who enjoys his job and sees the best in everyone. Telling how Bashir asks Data questions that not even Geordi or Troi ever thought of.
I like Data's brief confusion at the fact that Bashir thinks he's personable. A very well acted moment by Brent Spiner. Of course pretty much every moment of Spiner on screen was well acted.
Permission? Permission? No time for that! This is for SCIENCE! MUWAHAHAHA!!! The madness of Dr. Bashir...
Such an advanced ship a stranger can come onboard and access the computer system. smh
The best place to work on a potentially dangerous machine is obviously near an antimatter reactor!
Bashir doesn't refer to Data in the third person, as an object, or prod and poke him, he's just respectful and glad to meet him.
There should have been more crossover between TNG and DS9 like Sisko taking command of the Enterprise due to Picard and Riker being held hostage by a hostile force or Picard having a mission with the DS9 crew.
I don't even know what Sisko would do with himself if he ever got command of a Galaxy class starship...hed probably be giddy....would be fun to watch.
Yes, it would have been storytelling gold.
TNG crew were filming the movies in the 90s... So maybe that's the reason why they didn't appear much on DS9
DS9 was located at the furthest end of the Alpha Quadrant while the Enterprise was mostly Alpha Quadrant. The bad blood betwern Picard and Sisko was never truly resolved, and both captains knew it.
@@SantomPh I think they put that behind them in the Return of Sisko Star Trek Books.. I believe it was Picard who helped bring him back? Then again that's technically Non Canon.. BUT if they were planning to do something for S2 of Picard.. Just sayin.. that is of course if Kurtzman doesn't decide to blow up Bajor and Deep Space Nine because that's not Diverse enough..
Oh, the golden age of Star Trek. How we miss you so.
Here's hoping 'Star Trek: Picard' can bring some of it back.
Love the character of data that Brent spinner brought to life only second to spook
I could not help but notice Bashir's elbow leaning on the keyboard. Remind's me of Scotty and that clone machine which he tried to talk to in that movie with the whales -"Computer, oh computer".
a keyboard. how quaint.
That was an old Apple Macintosh.
+katakisLives ***Nerd Alert***, lol, good eye.
nerd alert, on a star trek clip?!
you don't say.
vish OH REEEAAALLLLYYYY!!!
*Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi* is an outstanding actor.
Holy balls, is that his real name?
Faffy Waffle yes but he shortened it to Alexander
No one meeds a name that long.
@@demonjay2330 I'd imagine he'd need to - unless he could get a dressing room with double doors
@@misslanapford9169
How about:
"Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso" (Pablo Picasso)
I love when Bashir initially requests help, Data immediately decides to do it, but then realizes "Wait, no, im supposed to be confronting him!"
He is immediately intrigued by this strange device and is eager to see what it does.
I love the little jog Data did up the slope 😆
My two favorite Star Trek dudes in one scene!!= live complete
@Isaac Mounce You are mistaken. The OP clearly stated these were her 'two favorite Star Trek Trek dudes'. Therefore, your response holds no validity in overturning that fact. Personal preference is unique to each individual and cannot be invalidated by another person's subjective opinion.
I *completely* forgot this happened!😂
I've been binging the Hell out of _DS9_
Now I'm gonna have to go back and watch _Birthright, Pt. 1_ for context☺️
Thank you🥰
This scene is so adorable-Julian's eyes got even wider than they normally are. He was like a kid on Christmas morning
I like Dr Bashir. He can make me feel better at anytime.
Ironically, it's an augment talking to the ""great great grandson" of the man who helped CREATE augments. From a certain POV, Data and Bashir are cousins. ***CORRECTION***: Arik Soong didn't CREATE augments. He may have initiated the process that Bashir ultimately received AND THEN switched to cybernetics which ultimately produced Data. In addition, Lore could be considered a typical augment and the perfect example of not learning from past mistakes. That would make more sense, continuity wise.
Made more interesting my the Saddig becoming worried that his character would end up as just another Data in DS9 with that plot thread.
Yet seeing the two here, I can't help but feel that the two should have played off each other moreover. I mean, they have a different kind of chemistry than Bashir O'Brian or Bashir Garak. I think Bashir is one of the most relatable people for Data and the could have a bit of a brotherly relationship that Data couldn't get from Lore.
I enjoyed watching this, thank you for uploading it.
I like how he starts looking at Bashir's device then remembers "Wait a minute, I'm supposed to be having words with you!"
crossover moments are arguably the best parts of any series/movies. even youtube ones
I think Bashir came in his pants when he found our he was talking to Data
Archangel Tigerstorm totally ;)
"It would have taken me days to analyze this device with the computer I have on Deep Space Nine." - So how long, Doctor Bashir, would have it taken you to open a comm channel to the Enterprise and say, "Hey, I have this cool looking thing from the Gamma Quadrant that I want analyzed and my computer is too slow, since we're explorers and all and you're docked, mind if I used yours?" instead of sneaking aboard and using their equipment without permission and opening you up to possible court martial charges?
lol Or, why does data go to see who is in Sickbay? Isnt that the job of security?
Pretty much. It's not as if there is a lack of security officers aboard when Worf isn't around. Hell, at the very least Data should have been accompanied by two Enterprise security officers in case someone who is NOT the station's CMO snuck aboard the Federation flagship from Deep Space Nine!
Its all to make the plot more interesting. This way we see data and bashir interact, instead of some security officer bitchin at data.
I love star trek, but they did that a lot.
There are other ways that retain interest. Having a couple of extras would not have ruined the scene in the slightest.
Excessively horrible, since the Enterprise is docked with Deep Space Nine in this episode!
I love how they both get along so quickly 🤗 Data's reaction to his pleasure to meet him, it looked like Data appreciated the compliment 😇
I always love Julien, hes just so full of energy
"Splendid"
flatter is always a good distraction, even works with an android.
Two worlds are colliding when TNG's favorite android meets with DS9's genetically enhanced medical doctor :-).
At the time, it wasn't written in that he was genetically enhanced. Apparently that plot point was a last minute addition to add a sense of dread to the episode it was introduced in, and the actor, Alexander Siddig, being the last person to hear about the change, was at first not happy saying that it came right out of nowhere.
What if Data met the holographic doctor from Voyager?
I love DS9, but compared to the rest of the staff, Bashir always seemed to fall short for me. He got some character development, and had a turnaround with Miles, but as far as being a character one would remember, like Kira, Odo, or even Garrak, I don't think he shined very brightly.
David Rauschenbach He most probally did, in the movies on the Enterprise E, or when the Enterprise kept docking at Earth in Voyager, he probaly had a look at the EMH, but never the ECH because it doesn't exist in the Alpha or Beta Quadraunt.
David Rauschenbach You know, that doctor from voyager had some of the best character development of anyone I've ever seen in any show. Went from being a personalitiless hologram to a self contained mobile doctor that could be easily confused for a fully functional human.
I love the decency and respect between them.
His eyes went whooOOSH when Date introduced himself ahahaha so precious