Apple Sheep reviews Microsoft Surface Book 3! MacBook Pro 16 vs Surface Book 3 15
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As an Apple aficionado, I've never owned a Microsoft Surface Book, but with the release of the Surface Book 3 I had to take a look and see how it compares to my 16 inch MacBook Pro. If you're shopping between the MacBook Pro, Surface Book 3, and 2020 Dell XPS 15, this video will give you some insight from an Apple user's perspective!
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There was no discussion about ports. Having an SDXC card slot, 2 USB A and one USB 3 is definitely a huge step up from Apple's poor port selection on the 16" model. It's still an inconvenience to this day looking for a dongle every time I need to use a USB A device. So that's one huge advantage for the Surface Book 3.
also there is CUDA core support which for premiere pro users will be a good thing. pros really outweigh cons but the biggest con is apple's if you are used to logic pro or final cut pro then you are stuck with their ecosystem like it or not.
@@karanjoshi2662 CUDA, also good for Photoshop, Blender/3D/CAD and Gaming.
And I agree with the ports. USB-C only STILL suck 5 years later, just as I expected
Well hes completely apple..he even complained about the Peel .I mean come on lol
4 superfast thunderbolt 3 ports is *poor selection* .
Hmm. Looks like you people are the Microsoft sheep.
At least you can use a dongle for USB A and SD card slot with the MacBook Pro but what about thunderbolt on the Surface? The surface book comes with a single USB C port that is even a thunderbolt 3.
@@sriramsundar8388 I value USB-a ports over extremely fast USB-c ports (so unnecessary tbh). We're not microsoft sheep, just different priorities. Though my laptop, the Acer Spin SP313-51N, already got everything I need anyway. It was only $599 refurbished, 2560x1600 100% srgb 13.3 inch panel, wacom pen with touch support, backlit keyboard, i5-1135G7 and 8GB ram, and *x2 thunderbolt 4!* Tada!
The webcam on the surface book is LEAGUES better than the macbook one too!
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster for video meetings you doofus. For official meeting, I don't want to look like a potato.
Thats exactly why apple wont make one. The used the same line (sorta) years ago.
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster The Surface Book rear camera is great for AR purposes.. I work with 3D models and showing them in AR environments is very cool. Also it is the most efficient way to scan documents directly to my laptop, instead of going through a phone app...
“leagues better”. seems like someone is taking any chance to shit on apple. webcam or not apple is still superior and luxurious.
Everything pretty much is better on the Surface Book 3. This dude is just making up excuses for the MacBook and lies about the SurfaceBook 3. Never heard one person say that they didn't like the SurfaceBook keyboard. Lol Apple fanboys are funny.
I bought a surface pro for my wife’s boyfriend last month, she said he loves it! Thanks for the review
you got a surface pro
for your wife
's boyfriend
wait, wtf?
WAIT WHAT?WTF?
Dang, my girlfriend's husband has never done anything like that for me. That dude lucky.
Got to love those maintenance payments.
I actually read that sentence 3 times, and am still confused.
For a so-called "Apple Sheep", you had a very even-handed and fair review of the Surface Book 3. It is definitely not for everyone. It's probably the epitome of the "jack of all trades, expert of none" in the computing world. But I'd argue that it does a lot of things very well. This isn't for the normal consumer. You definitely have to know what you're looking for and what your work flows are like to get the best device for yourself.
1:50 “For Coming Off” 😂😂😂😂
Dude is a 🤡
As someone who has been struggling through life on a.... HP envy dv6 from 2014.... that is dying and has broken pixels and endless glitches from years of hardcore use and travel.... as an ILLUSTRATOR.... as someone who works primarily in COFFEE SHOPS and PARKS.... the surface book seems incomprehensibly great. All the little nitpicks that people make in these reviews just make me laugh because what this laptop achieves is absolutely MINDBLOWING, GENIUS, PERFECTION, when I compare it to my piece of garbage laptop. And I manage to use Adobe software on THIS hunk of trash. With some extra payments coming in recently I just kinda think I have no other option but to buy this insanely amazing computer to expand my software capabilities during this quarantine.
Did you end up going for it? Would love to hear your thoughts.
jansillanpaa41 I’m saving up my money! I think in about a month I’m gonna go for it. I’ll see if I remember to come back here and let you know what I think at that point.
Looking forward to your impression when you get it! :)
So... Did you get it?
Thinking of buying it also. Did you get it? Would like to see your thoughts.
You forgot to mention the 1080p front-facing camera.
No he didn't. Just didn't want to mention it...
@@RK-um9tu why, its a feature piece. It embarrasses the camera and mic on the macbook. Probably why tbh
Don't forget about the Mics on the surface book are way better. HD audio and legit HD web cam are incredible on the Surface line
@@RK-um9tu exactly he didnt really give it a fair review
I was wondering when you were going to start reviewing Windows based PCs. Thank you for doing this Luke. You are one of my favorite Apple fan boys but knowing you are willing to stretch your horizons is a blessing. Have a good weekend.
1:13 This was unexpected but appreciated. Made me laugh.
I have a surface book 2 and I absolutely love it!
I have Surface Book and I absolutely hate it!
@@imho4990 lol why
@@yousefabdulrhman858 You actually believe he has a SB? lol
Surface Book sucks lol
@@RK-um9tu why not if I will think every thing someone says I will believe nothing and life will not be fun.
“Flawed and unique”
Me: that’s just how I would call apple’s MacBook motherboard design
Great review: Keep the Surface 3.
I have to confess that I am a total non-committal when it comes to operating systems. I like the integration of the Mac with the iPhone and Apple Watch; I like the touch screen and the old games and backwards compatibility of software on Windows; and I like Linux Mint which has a stable and low resource hungry profile that is infinitely customize-able as to desktop themes, has the chops to do most things well.
My wish for Apple is that Tim Cook would stop trying to do 'WHAT STEVE JOBS WOULD DO' in his obsession of not using touch screens on computers and add at least the option of a touch screen to all Apple products. Disney nearly went bankrupt during the years after Walt Disney died, by not innovating. While Apple has had some innovations such as the Apple Watch, it is in danger of not innovating in areas such as user interfaces such as touchscreens (unless you buy a separate iPad or iPod touch). Using my 20 inch Samsung is just like using a giant iPad, and this touch capability is truly missed when playing games, swiping between applications, moving up and down on web pages... rather than fumbling around for a mouse.
I also wish that Apple and Microsoft would BOTH stop trying to force their ecosystems down the throat of their customers by trying to limit purchases through their respective app stores - to me this makes me angry when planned obsolescence is infiltrating the tech sector. We have WAY too much electronic wastes caused by updates in operating systems or hardware that shortens the lifespan of old phones or computers that were state of the art just four or five years ago.
Well, your video makes me dig out my old Samsung. Great to have choices between ecosystems - keeps us smarter, if not poorer in buying all of them.
Longest personal comment I'VE ever seen
Jeez this is an essay and a half guaranteed an A+ in computer science 😂
Cubei You’re right
imo i really couldn’t care less about laptop touchscreens
@Cubei I absolutely agree with your comment. I tried a program called "Splashtop" downloadable from the app store, to try out using a touchscreen on different operating systems from Windows XP to Windows 10 , and the Mac. The Mac barely had any on screen touch gestures. And I agree the interface for the Mac OS is my favorite between Windows and the Mac - though some Windows/Linux programs really shine with a touchscreen as opposed to using a touch pad. A bit of interesting information: iOs for the iPad is basically a dumbed down version of the Mac OS, which in turn is basically a layer running on the top of UNIX. Thanks for the comment.
I just switched from a MacBook 12 inch to a Surface Laptop 3. It is great so far.
Of course. I don’t mean any offence in saying this but the 12” MacBook is probably shittest laptop apple has ever put out and it’s really unfortunate that they did that
@Jonathan Adeyemi True, Since there are no fans in the MacBook 12 inch, so the CPUs sometimes burn out plus there is only one USB-C port.
Yeah, anything is an upgrade over that.
Wow you went from one end of the spectrum-wimpy flawed traditional laptop, to a pretty powerful non traditional laptop, which is basically the opposite. Surface is thiccc as heck with the keyboard on whereas the MacBook was one of the thinnest laptops, surface actually is meant for power users whereas the 12 inch was meant to be thin and convenient, but nowhere near powerful. The laptops are just meant for different crowds completely.
project Channel yeah I really just needed a more powerful laptop and since I had some MacBook Pro laptops in the past I thought this would suit me better. I completely plan on buying a new 13 inch later and using them together eventually.
Good stuff, i liked the style and the review was solid. Still considering getting the SB3 - this nudged me a little closer. Thanks man!
Well done for your honest review im sure it was hard to do :)
"Another aspect I love is... the aspect ratio" 😂
Good review Luke, cheers mate!
I really love your macbook videos. Waiting for your 1 M subs
Very balanced Review and honestly shifting ecosystems from Mac to Windows or vice versa is easier said than done.
That said, whenever I go to any coffee shops, atleast 1-2 people come up to me and ask what laptop is that, rocking a SB3. Definitely a cool factor in there especially when I pop the tablet part open, the reactions are priceless.
I had a surface laptop 3 for about a week until it stopped charging and I sent it back. God I miss that 3:2 screen, the through the keyboard speakers not so much.
11:26 "You can't click at the very top of it".
Clicks at the very top of it, start menu opens.
I like how honest you are with the title
This is one of the most well put video about the surface book 3. And you described the demographic better than anyone.
Though I'm an iPad Pro user I like the idea of surface book 3 and maybe a little bit more afyer this video.
You never mentioned Windows Hello, it's the only one feature I'm missing on my Linux machine.
I have had the surface line of machines for work and personal use for several years now. From the surface pro to the surface laptop 1 and a surface studio at a church that I worked for, I now own a laptop 3 and chose it over the book 3 for these reasons. I’d recommend it over the book for people in my field any day.
Variety makes decision making very easy and encourages smart buying.
Thanks for exploring this laptop.
I have a Surface Book and I love it. The screen "wobble" is from the hinge design, not from it being a touch screen. It's because the screen is removable so it becomes a Surface Pro tablet. The Surface Laptop doesn't have this issue as the screen isn't removable. I'll agree that the trackpad could use some work, and the backlighting of the keys is better than nothing but not ideal. But, the backlighting on my MacBook Pro has quit working altogether, so... :D
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I really like how you review laptops, more laptop reviews would be really nice!
A better montage: "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty." 😂
Family guy!! 🤣🤣
Your sense of humor is my favorite
cool video man, thanks for the content
Great, honest review!
That's cool to see a Apple-user having an objective review of a Microsoft product :)
Juste like you said the SB is a "niche" device which won't interest everyone, but as a graphic designer myself that love drawing, this is the device I always dreamt of.
Too bad the Book doesn't have the Surface Pro's kickstand :(
But thanks for your review/comparison ! :)
Was this objective?
Most if not all reviewers fail to show that the Surface Books are touchscreen capable devices while MacBook Pro devices aren't. Huge difference.
As a samsung phone user using an iPad Pro for most of the day, the reason i also own a Surface Book 2 is because it can game (1060 is plenty fast) and edit photos from my camera without any adapters. It is such a nicely built device every time I look at it I just think wow that is some engineering!.
I have a 16” myself and the display is really really sturdy given for how thin it is.
My previous laptop had a display that was at least 2 times as thick and it was a lot les sturdy
Great review... this is the first video I've seen from your channel and it was suggested to me probably because I am a Surface Book user... I have had mine since 2016 and it still rocks!
I am a mechanical engineer that mostly works with 3D designs, simulations, renders and a little bit of graphic design. So you can see that the Surface Book is the perfect device for my workflow... I can conceive an idea, sketch it, conceptualize it, modele it in 3D, simulate how it works and then render some images or videos. My device is quite old, so if I get higher demand of work or more complex designs, I will probably need a newer laptop and I will definitely upgrade to the Surface Book 3.
However I completely agree that this device is not for video editing. The MacBook Pro 16, or Dell XPS with better CPU will satisfy most people... But this device is the most versatile if you want to have only one device for almost all your needs.
When the SB first came out it was really a great design - today, not so much. The trackpad is definitely too small and a switch to Renoir would really get it close to the macbook in CPU performance. Some hardware revising would be nice as well, with smaller bezels and the pen could use an update. Slap on a 120hz screen and it would be a real 2020 contender.
I love this review, it’s not biased.
You earned my subscribe with this video. Well done!
“Aficionado” that’s the real pronunciation and grammarly this is the same with “fan”
Grammatically*
Lol you’re crazy man that thing is a beast with editing
I don't know if quirky is the word, but there's that something you have that other tech reviewers don't have that keeps me coming back.
Is nobody going to mention the operative systems? Do you feel the same using any of these? I have a PC at work and a Mac at home and I do my work tasks on both. I've using Mac for work since Mac Os 9 and I can say that is Windows and not the hardware my first concern when I think about switching platforms...
I collect my old tech and still use them. ;\;
I collect consoles, ipods, phones and watches. I have some for specific uses, moods or special occasions.
Do you take them back on the store after reviewing them?
Just from being an engineering student, I def prefer surfacebook. You get all the engineering softwares that are exclusive to windows. Can take notes with touch screen under tablet mode in class with onenote and easily transfer that to my desktop to study. Also can do many mechanical designs using the touch screen. Lastly, you can type codes with the comfortable keyboard that surface pro can't compete.
I thought this was a Tailosive Tech video when I saw the thumbnail lol
2:00
- Where do you find awesome backgrounds like that?
Google
Try wallhaven
One of the best parts is flipping the screen around and editing photos with the pen and having use of the gpu
Do a Dell XPS 15 9500 review, it is reallllly GOOOD!
Another banger luke
But the 13 inch processor is the same as the MacBook so is it a good buy in that size especially with the discrete graphics?
I really thought that the PC CPU was inside the keyboard enclosure and the screen had a low end tablet cpu
Last year I switched to MacBook Pro 16" and here are my thoughts:
- The force touch track pad is lights years ahead of any other trackpad, its well sized, precise, and smooth.
- I personally like the Mac OS over the windows because it is elegant, simple and powerful.
- I find the MacBook's design better than any other out there. it is simple, not bulky and luxurious.
+ it works like a champ with my iPad and my iPhone
I also switched to a mbp when it came time to buy myself a nice laptop. I hadn’t used mac before but I just couldn’t justify spending my own money on a laptop and it arriving with Windoze on it. This was 5 years ago when Windows laptops were faaaar behind Apple.
I find the screen tone generally really pleasing to look at and the speakers are surprisingly full sounding. The keyboard is nice to type on and doesn’t flex. I wish it had better cooling and webcam but for a £950 laptop it still kicks ass and is going strong!
For me, I find MacBook design the most boring design ever and it's why every laptop out there has also started looking bland and trying to copy MacBook design
You tickled the Macbook screen but pushed the SB3 screen?
likely just looks like that as the display assembly is much heavier on the surface
I'm considering purchasing the surface book 3 15" GeForce GTX 1660TI, do you think this model is suitable for 3d modelling software like auto cad and solid works or do you think I should consider buying the surface book 3 Quadro RTX or some other laptop. Thanks Ray
I tried selling my surface book 2 in the website but it wouldn't find the product so I couldn't sell it
10:39 in chrome you have to disable hardware acceleration and it will work better
I suddenly see many youtubers talk about the Surface 3 at the same time... Come on, I feel like Microsoft is urgently sending his products to all of them to try track some marketshare for an extremely expensive device for few people.
As many other comments bellow, I think you should keep making reviews of other great laptops as well. Your points of view are very interesting. Keep rocking!
I use a 2012 MBP (with upgrades) as my school/class computer that I take around but I've always liked the look of the surface, very convienient and small.
I had the old one it was amazing!
Well it’s amazing for notes literally the best for uni students. I think it’s selling pretty well.
10000 times better than a macbook and ipad together. I had 16 inch mb and ipad pro and sold them both saved money and bought a SBP 2. Cant regret .
I have both, but I prefer using the MacBook Pro most of the times
Good video. A couple of things I find missing from these comparisons is the software. Most graphic designers have spent years on the brilliant Mac software and that is reason alone to stick with them. Yes they are expensive but the fit and finish is superb. They also ‘just work’. I bought my base 2013 MacBook early 2015 when I started my design business and it’s never let me down and handled everything I’ve thrown at it. I had an iMac before that which I’d had for 7 years and a MacBook from 2008 which my sister is still using. Yes they are expensive but they are great value (most of the the time). However I resent the fact that apple hasn’t released a more affordable Mac Pro. I think this is a move to keep customers upgrading as most graphic designs/agencies only require iMacs.
the graphic designers I know use Indesign, Illustrator and Photoshop mostly. And move seamlessly from Mac to PC and back generally.
Hey Just as a quick suggestion
Try Hackintoshing it, it might be a fun project, try it on a external drive so the laptop is still in the same condition 👍🏻🔥
The 1660 ti is not compatible with macos, there arent any drivers
it doesn't work really good. you'll have better luck with linux because people have made kernels for it but last time I looked surface books and pros don't work very good if at all on Mac OS. and I believe in order to get wifi working you have to hook up a wifi dongle to it lol
That's impossible, the base of the Surfacebook 3 is detachable, MacOS wont be optimized to do that.
Surfaces make awful hackintoshes, even if you manage to make them work. The WiFi is soldered and unsupported, you'll have to use the iGPU and not the dGPU, the list goes on. If you want the macOS experience just buy a Mac.
@@keyed_6727 But it would still be a fun project. (:
Hello, could you please send me the link to the wallpaper on the macbook? Thank you.
Do you sell some of the macbooks that you upgrade/repair? Else, what do you do with them?
I like my book 2, its the same shell design so it shares a lot of its flaws outside of the new one having improved detaching from the base. I get why they put the gpu exhaust port there, and its actually a good decision for some reasons but I wish they cut out part of the hinge that's basically negative space and put the vents exhausting out the back for the gpu. It's probably better for thermals at a desk but it definitely adds to the designs heft. That and that hinge. So unique, it's biomimetic and a great bit of industrial design.
Be careful using your surface outdoors Luke! I hear if you leave the top down on that convertible and it rains it's game over! 🤣
That keyboard backlight is straight out of a PowerBook G4. It's only been 17 years since that came out, so no big deal :P
I thought the 1660 ti is in the bottom half of the laptop and everything else is in the display. Im not sure though.
Why are PC notebook’s adapters always more bulky than Macbook’s?
Love your videos
Also lets see in 5 years which device is more relevant and useful while getting brand new oS updates from the factory and which battery power is still better. Ya know things that actually matter in the long run
As a graphic designer looking to work remotely in different areas 13:01 hit me right where it needed to. Thank you.
Clean your kettle man, steel wool isn't expensive.
possamei or just boil water + vinegar
waiting for an 8 core R9-4900hs version with with a down TDP of 5w, but maintaining the ability to turbo to 40w
With his intro screen ,when his name popped up I thought it said leukemia.
I have used a dell latitude D520 since 2007 running Windows XP and it’s a great computer but I recently got a surface pro 7 and I love them both
Can you place the display on the base backwards to use it as an easel while keeping the graphics horsepower? Because with an external keyboard and mouse I can see that being useful for graphic artists.
I agree with most of the video. Very good review. The Surface Book 3 truly shines when you are travelling (I use my desktop at home). It's an all round tablet/laptop/workstation. I'm a Developer, so this works much better for me as I have to do much reading and prefer to read articles in Portrait mode. I would highly recommend the Surface Book 3 15" over the MacBook Pro 16. That's my opinion.
I encourage you to check out the Surface laptop 3. I'm a lighting designer who does a lot of pre-visualization and rendering with my machine and my laptop 3 has been eating every project I work on for breakfast.
"Meet the laptop that can handle your biggest demands" with quad core cpu. Bruh 👌😂
yes.
@@AshLordCurry I mean most MacBooks just have a dual core
Taste the rainbow I mean only the base model MacBook Air now has dual core
Quad cores aren’t that bad still
AHS 786 But the others have heat issues...
New Video :) Finally
Have you already tried installing macos on that surface book?
I have to make my purchasing decision soon. I am glad I subscribed your channel. It would be first time switching from Windows to Mac Pro 16 for amazing build quality and speakers. I know surface in it’s capacity does great job with its front facing speakers. I was really hoping to see a comparison. Could you please do a video of both pros and cons of each in sound quality. Will highly appreciate. Thanks
Looking to get one of these and was not sure...after watching this I’ll be sticking to the Mac
I love my new MacBook Pro 13 with 16 gigs of ddr4 ram
Your are the best tech youtubes
I just have a question and since this is the closest video of yours I could find to one that deals with Windows, I figured I'd ask it here: Have you ever used Apple's Boot Camp to install and run Windows 10 on a Mac and, if so, how well does Windows run on that Mac compared to macOS? Thanks!
You better compare the macbook with a dell XPS, an HP Spectre or a Lenovo Yoga.
I did not see the video to the end. But I noticed you forget to mention the pencil device that comes with the laptop. This is one of the selling points if you want to use it as a tablet. I skipped to check if you detached it, but this is the purpose of the thick hinge and you should show more of it detached. I own a 2017 model and it has been very reliable, but I honestly almost never use it as a tablet, where it has a very weak battery range (most of the battery is in the base). But if you use it as a laptop and don't make heavy use of the NVIDIA card the battery is as good as any Mac.
BTW just got my first MacBook Pro a week ago and I am very happy with it. Knowing that there is not too much daily practical use for the dual features I think it is preferable to own a traditional laptop and an individual tablet for tablet applications. Dual laptop is not too practical and you overpay for something you don't use. I use an iPad 2018 as my daily tablet and it is way more practical than try to use the tablet on the Surface Book.
Anyway the Surface Book is a fantastic piece of engineering and at least mine has been very reliable. I was afraid that the hinge contacts would wear out fast, but mine still works as new. The screen is Apple quality and the keyboard is not too shabby. My main concern is that I overpaid and I would had been better served by a cheaper laptop with a superior NVIDIA card. But at the same time the Surface has a premium feel that other laptops lack. For example, screen resolution and color is better than cheaper non-dual laptops. So it is a compromise, but worth its cost at the end.
You prefer the Mac Keyboard (non scissor)...over the Surface keyboard. I mean wtf.
He says the MAGIC keyboard (scissor switches)
"you can't click at the very top of it" - proceeds to click top.
a hackintoshed one would be interesting, and at least it has removable storage.
6:12 This should be an ad for the SB3 🤣 Super slick :)
The first quirk can be fixed by going to the widgets and toggling the button. Well i dont think its a problem to fix, its a feature