Surface Book 3 - Hinge Durability, Unboxing, Features, Accessories, Surface Book 2 Comparison
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- How durable is the Surface Book 3 hinge? What's the difference between the Surface Book 3 and the Surface Book 2? What are some cool Surface Book 3 accessories? What comes in the box with the Surface Book 3? What new features does the Surface Book 3 have? In today's techisode, we answer all these questions!
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Update: there was a strand of hair stuck in between the hinge. I took it out, and now it works normally 🤯. Just a single strand
25:12 Well, my hinge is broken. When I close the lid, it takes a lot of extra force to close the last piece of the hinge, it feels as if I’m bending the whole thing. I examined it and I guess the last part of the hinge that is supposed to move at the end has some problem. It takes a lot of force to close it and only closes halfway, causing tension between the other parts of the hinge and causing the lid to snap open just at a touch, and it then hovers parallel to the base and the webcam side being 1.5cm above the keyboard. Also when it stays closed, there is a 1mm gap between the edges of the tablet and the keyboard, i.e. when it is closed, I can see 1mm of the keyboard edge instead of the tablet edge being plush with it. Pls check it with ur surface book 2 and 3 if the last part of the hinge actually moves and closes all the way through. If u do read this comment, tell me how I can send you the photos and video of the problem with my Book 2. I guess I’m one of the very first people to have this issue since there’s no one talking abt this on internet.
hey, I love your honest review but can you please do a comparison between Acer concept D3 ezel and surface book 3,
I am really looking forward to it.
thankyou
This has to be THE most thorough review of the SB3 that I've seen, and I have watched PLENTY of reviews from all of the top and not-so-top reviewers on TH-cam. I really want it but I don't think the price justifies the subpar performance compared to what's out there and the Ryzen 4000 series laptops currently and soon-to-be released over the next few months. But you cannot doubt the sleek look, compactness, and multi-purpose.
My only critic is no mention of the various configuration and price points. I really learned of some new functionality. Keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks for the great feedback! And thanks for the suggestion with the configurations and price points! I'll be sure to add that information to future videos :)
I have the SB2 and it's the near perfect device I've owned in 20 yrs...
As a prospect first time buyer of the surface book this was super helpful! thank you!
Awesome! I'm glad it helped!
I think that you're the only one who talked for more than 15 min about this beautiful laptop. Thank you very much!
This is my dream laptop, I really want to get into graphic design at university next year and I got myself a job starting this weekend to save up for this. Very grateful I have the job and supportive parents. Great video !! Keep it up :))
I have the flagship 13 inch model, its really productive and fun to use. The detaching is very useful for when you watch movies and it stands up well in performance.
The price is a little high though, it cost me 4400 AUD
excellent video - I have the surface book 2 13" and love it i have no need to switch or upgrade - which in the past always upgraded every 6 months - this thing is hands down best built laptop I have ever owned. I love your video explaining the different options and durability and just confirms my love of this notebook.
Thanks!! And yeah, the Surface Book 2 is incredible. If I didn't switch to 4k video editing, I wouldn't have upgraded.
I think MacBooks are a bit better built
Very thorough Eric!
Thanks Brett!
So comprehensive. This is wonderful; thank you!
13:08 Kinda freaky how well your hand lines up with the video on the tablet
Lol, I noticed that when I was editing the video 😅
Great video you answered all my questions. Good luck my friend
11:35 omg that charging at the bottom is so useful
i was just thinking that i use the surface pro tablet detached to draw and power connected to get the best performance and i thought surface book could not do that, until now. important detal.
This is so helpful, I was really concerned about durability, and this put all my worries to rest
The SB3 is definitely on my Wish List, No other Reviewer has talked/mentioned that u can Recharge the SB3 Display by itself. It is also nice to know that the Fulcrum Hinge is Super Tough. Good Review Mr, Techisode TV.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you found the video helpful :)
You deserve so much more attention this was really helpful thanks 😊
Thanks! I really appreciate that!
This video answered all my questions regarding this tablet, I mean Laptop... I'm buying it!
That was very helpful and very detailed! Thank you so much 😊
The purpose of the subscribe button is so that someone like me can click on the subscribed tab on their home page and see all the new videos but at the same time won't get interrupted in whatever they were currently doing by the notification. It is pretty handy and I recommend everyone to do it that way.
Great video. Super thorough. Thanks
Answered questions that I didn't even know I had. Answered concerns that I previously had too. Incredible video, good job!
I just got the 15 inch one today but I can say till now I am ABSOLUTELY in love with it! There is literally no noise coming from the fans and the keyboard is incredible, however, I do wish that it is thiner.
I have the 15" SB2. In my previous job, I flew all around the world with it, usually going single-bag, which could get pretty stuffed with a week's worth of clothes, dress shoes, the dock, the power brick and tech accessories. Yet it sailed through all of that and looks the same as when I bought it. I occasionally had to blow off lint from inside the hinge, but nothing more substantial ever found its way in there.
Incredibly thorough. Fantastic review. No one else has mentioned you can put it backwards. 👏🏼
your video is a bomb! thank you! you are an amazing reviewer!
Best review and covers all details
Great review man - nice work.
Thanks!
Hi there, thank you for that review, I was especially curious about hinge durability in backpack, as I place my laptop exactly as described, great stuff!
God Bless!
Great that you focus on these questions! Many other reviews only discus stuff that mostly just pertains to TH-camrs like rendering 4k vids etc. Not my concern, but durability is!
You have to understand the category of presentation. This presenter can do such because is a longterm user of the device and so certain comparisons can be made.
Compared to other users who get review units or are just not longterm users of the previous product, cannot afford us such details.
Deserved like♥️ really helpful video!
Thanks!
Nice coverage
11:40 no way you are telling me I can charge my one year old book 2 like that :O
I’m just finding this out too 😱😂
LOL you actually can, I knew that but always forget about it xD
I'm using my 15-inch SB2 in 2024. Awsome product!
One of the best, most comprehensive reviews out there!
Could you please do a test to see how much time it takes to charge the laptop with a usb c charger?
Probably 10-20 times as long as the power brick (it's over 220W, and most USB phone chargers are 5-10W). Better to use the power brick.
@@Dragonblaster1 Ummm. the power brick is 127 watts, and USB C is up to 90 watts depending on the USB C charger you use. (They're not talking about normal USB like your phone uses) USB 3 with the USB C port changed the power delivery very substantially over prior versions of USB.
@@Dragonblaster1 to add to babybirdhomes comment: a normal phone charger also doesnt work: my galaxy s9 original charger is too weak to charge it
Great video. 👍Thank you
For this nice comparison I'll give u an abo👌
Thank you for the thorough review! This made me feel more enthusiastic in buying the Book 3. I have a question, however: did you encounter any glitches while using the device? Like those about not detecting the GPU, and you have to remove and reattach the tablet to fix it? And is it stable for day to day use? Really just want to make sure I have a good purchase, that thing is NOT cheap.
Thanks for the review a lot.
I would like to know how much the battery in new book 3 works long as a tablet itself and with the base with every day tasks not gaming?
I would be very grateful if you could tell me how much the battery in your surface book 2 degraded for 2.5 years of using. I am thinking hard about buying the one for work but I wouldn't like to throw it away because of not working battery. If I am not mistaken the battery can be replaced with new even in service center?
I would appreciate your answer very much as many people after release of the videos don't keep communication with their subscribers.
At 12:20 I use my surface with the tablet part only connected to the Microsoft dock for Hard drives mouse and keyboard, and it works great.
Awesome vid!
I did not know that just the tablet portion can be charged. Nor about a second way to right click using the pen (tap the side button and then tap the screen with the pen's tip). Cool! Thanks for the info!
Appreciate the travel story. I wish MS had developed a protective case for this thatd help protect this from issues like that. I put my book (in a case) in a checked bag and the exterior obtained a slight dent. Very irritating. But .. Ive I LOVE this Surface Book. Such a pleasure to use. Keyboard, touchpad, screen, versatility, ports and battery life - its lovely
I’m curious, what if you have a Apple Pencil and stick it at the side of the screen? Would it connect?
Great review. Trying to talk myself out of it and having even less success now XD only thing I would have loved for consideration is a detailed 13.5 vs 15 comparison as the limited specs on the website doesn't seem to go into the minor differences between them
Thanks for the very detailed review. Do you have any ideas about the screen crack issue that a lot of SB series users have complained about? The thin hairline crack that appear at the top of screen where the glass touches the keyboard base. Do you have any experience of that?
I’m currently looking Into a new laptop to replace my ASUS K53U. I would like a 2 in 1 as I don’t have a tablet. I mainly want to use it for browsing, work, music, and general use What would you recommend?
Very thorough review. Thank you.
Thanks!
Thank you very much for a great review. Do you know if Surface book 3 is compatible with the HP dock? I use HP dock via usbc port for my Samsung notebook 9 pro to connect my 2 monitors and speakers. Thank you.
Thank you for the review, i wonder the tablet part can connect to the new dock 2 and connect to external usb device?
impressed by your content... nice work and keep progressing... target 5 million
Thanks!
Great review. Small thing, but you can use the Surface Dock to access memory cards, hard drives, etc, while in tablet only mode.
I was wondering if i got a decal set would it fit exactly as the sb2 even the keys??
Does anyone know if you can use the surface dock to connect the tablet portion only to external monitor, ethernet and other usb peripherals?
Thank you for the review. I notice there's an update for driver of surface book 3, is it still impossible to connect the tablet part (without keyboard) to usb drive through some adaptor?
I just got my Surface Book 3 and I love it so far I do have a question how do you get the pen to draw I was able to sync it in my apps are able to open up but everytime I try drawing with it it's not responsive
Book 2 user here😊 👍
I like this review, it is full of details for the previous generation experience.
But there is one other thing you did not mention, other than the hinge itself, there is a flaw in the screen itself, most of the laptop like Macbook has a rubber ring covering the edge of the screen to prevent strong force when closing the screen. But Microsoft chose to sacrifice the protection for beauty. Some users experienced cracking the screen accidentally.
Fortunately, Microsoft does give them a replacement and I bought a case for my SB2, so no issue so far, except the thermal throttling issue, the cooling system is really bad to me, I fixed it by undervolting and speed shift by ThrottleStop
th-cam.com/video/YatykqnK08o/w-d-xo.html
I just finally upgraded my sb1 to 3, it has been well worth my money
Same!
My SB1 is broken now because i scratched it so much.
Has anyone found an annoying electronic buzz when using headphones plugged into the headphone jack? I am on my second one from MS and still having that issue. (13" i7 32gb 1TB)
Hi, I just bought a Surface book 3, and I have a dell wd15 dock which i use work my work computer (dell latitude 5490). The wd15 dock does work with my surface book 3 via usb c, however it is not as smooth as i would like. When I plug it, only 50% of the time charges my laptop, i have to unplug and plug it in until it starts charging. The other thing is that the wd15 dock is connected via hdmi to my monitor, and when i plug the dock into my surface book,, the external monitor is not detected. i have to unplug the hdmi from the wd15 and plug it in again, and it works. So i have to do all these to have the dock charge and provide connection to my monitor. Am i missing something here? like a driver or something? Or is this expected since the dock is DELL and my laptop is MICROSOFT?
Do you know if this is something that would be helpful for school? I’m going to university and I want a computer that will be able to help me get my work done but also a tablet that I can take notes on. Is this a good option or should I keep looking?
Definitely a great choice for school work unless you're in school for some really intense 3D modeling, 4k videography, or animation work. It also doesn't work well at all for VR (in case you were hoping to do that too). If you don't need a ton of processing power, you can save some money and get a surface pro instead. The keyboard won't be as nice, but it'll be cheaper and offer most of the same features of the tablet portion. Alternatively, you could get the Surface Book 2 since the performance boost won't be very noticeable if you aren't doing CPU or GPU heavy tasks.
The surface dial, the dock and the pen aren't included, are they?
Would you need a screen guard of sorts for the screen? To protect from scratches due to the gap, or also to protect during tablet mode?
I've had my SB2 for 2 years and never felt the need for a screen guard
Can you test the new 127 watt charger on the surfacebook 2 to see if it prevents the battery from draining when gaming? I was wondering if it was worth buying the new charger.
I actually just uploaded a video talking about this :)
th-cam.com/video/gd5wtKSm7NA/w-d-xo.html
i have the 1st generation Surface book and been having it for 4 years.Still works perfect and everything still looks and feels as new and i use it daily got coding, and running some games. the only thing i notice is the battery dies way to fast but i have been using if for so long now.
ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN TRADE IN MY 1ST GEN SB TO GET THE 3 RD GEN??!
Nice Microsoft product!
really good review, you mention real user experiences. 10\10
Thanks! I'm glad you found the video helpful :)
Hi any idea if 2tb option will be available outside US market?
Can you please tell me if it has a cooling fan in the tablet?
how does the speakers perform compare to book 2?
so what happens if you eject the tablet without using the button?
is the pen delay when writing lower on the SB3 compared to the SB2?
Is it possible to replace the SSD & battery without damaging the unit? Thanks 4 Sharing
Not easily. The screen is glued to the body of the tablet so you would likely have to heat the tablet portion and separate the screen using a screen puller. It would certainly void the warranty and you might break the screen in the process.
would the most cheapest 13 inch book 3 be good enough for daily usage? Its gonna be my secondary computer...
There's a lot cheaper you can get if this is just serving as backup. No GPU in that model, and it is the only one with an i5. Dell XPS 13 can be had for several hundreds of dollars less, but obviously if you need the detachable screen and pen input then the Surface Book may be the way to go. I have the Book as my primary device and it is killer. Just be cautious when getting the bottom level to make sure you really need the extra widgets, as there are several that can be had for a better price.
Very good video. I have some Question, how long can i run the tablet with the dock and without it with movies/TH-cam in average before i have charge it.
And can i use this like a tablet without shutdown it. Just close. Will it damage the surface at long run and how its with the batterie.
Ya i would like to know that too
just wanted to comment on the surface dial. I have not been able to get it to work on the surface book 3 screen with compatible apps. i'm unsure but it seems Microsoft has not included support for on screen use of the dial on the surface book 3. I am still trying to figure it out though.
great video BTW!
Is that a regular surface pen or a slim version? Thank you for the review, best on the internet!
Edit: If that’s the circular is it possible to use the slim version, attach to the side, configure commands etc? Thank you in advance!
That's definitely the regular surface pen. I'm also curious about the soil own working with it though because the regular surface pen works great with my hp
Hey there! I'm interested in the Surface Book 3 and really liked your videos. I was wondering if you could hook up a VR system (I have the HTC Vive) to this and show us if it works? I've seen nothing about running VR off of this, but I avoided the Surface Book 2 primarily because of some weird power and graphics card throughput issues that were reported that didn't make it possible. Thanks for your consideration!
Thanks for the comment! For VR, I would get a different laptop. Even Windows Mixed Reality headsets don't work well with the Surface Book 3 (or Surface Book 2 for that matter). I'll explain this in more detail in a future video, but, basically, Microsoft uses custom GPU drivers which often break VR headset compatibility for literally months at a time. When I first got my Surface Book 2, it took literally one full year until they fixed a bug in the intel driver that caused the colors to be super washed out in VR headsets. Then, there were multiple times where I'd get an update and the VR environment would stutter like crazy. Even when VR did work, it wasn't perfect. Also, Oculus officially does NOT support any Surface device for VR, that includes the Oculus Quest.
Long story short, the Surface Book 2 and Surface Book 3 are probably the last laptops I'd buy if I wanted to do any VR gaming. Truth be told, after running a bunch of tests, I'm honestly not impressed with the performance of the Surface Book 3 (I'll discuss this in much more detail in an upcoming video). So much so that I'll be returning my Surface Book 3 because, for my particular use case, it's just not powerful enough.The Surface Book 3 is really for people who don't care for gaming or VR and just want a 2 in 1 that is powerful enough for a moderate workload (light photoshop work or 1080p video editing. It doesn't work well for 4k video editing).
I hope that helps!
I received my surface book 3 today and was using it, I found out that it gets really warm on the back of the tablet portion is this normal? I got temperatures maxing out when I did a cina bench the temp all the way to 100 Celsius/212° I didn’t stay there long but it spiked all the way to that temperature then it stayed close to that range. Also I I haven’t heard the fans kick on from the tablet portion but I have heard it from the base. Does that mean it’s a really well designed? I have the surface book 13.5 inch 32 gigs of RAM and the dedicated graphics card with four gigs of RAM.
The tablet portion does get pretty hot when you're doing some heavy work with it like gaming or exporting video files. It was the same for the Surface Book 2. It's not concerning, that's just how it works. If it gets hot enough, you'll hear fans kick on.
Techisode TV oh ok thank you I was wondering if this was normal.
The 13.5" version is passively cooled and has no fan in the tablet portion. This means it can get quite hot and take longer to cool down than the 15". This is one of the main reasons I went with the 15" versions for SB2 and SB3. If you are doing demanding work at your deks, you can get a small desktop fan and point it at the back of you screen, this can make a big difference to the thermals if you are maxing out your CPU for long periods.
Jebus! You got some disposable money for that setup!
Best review of this product that I’ve seen on TH-cam. I’ve seen tons of review videos on the SB3 and this was by far the best. Answered a lot of my questions and had real world explanations. Thank you so much. Will be subscribing!
In other reviews they said that the Surface Book 3 can not be opened with one finger/hand. I am really surprised?!
hello all , i have bought the surface book3 , 15 inch (516gb , 32gh ram) and i have replace it already due battery is not lasting , the second one i got it Frieda, with the same issue the contact the Microsoft support , the remote to it and they have update windows , and ask to monitor the battery today i had meeting i charged ii to 100% and i did not last fro three hours ( i have not install and application yet not even office ( is not yet activated ) i have attended that the meeting via webex ( via web) .... i m not sure if anyone has the same that issue i have ,,, can anyone reply me if is normal ? i mean i bought the machine for the battery (T_T) and now not even 3 hours ??
Thank you! I'm looking for a laptop that will last. My HP hinges broke after 2 years, and I read this is common with HP and other brands. Not acceptable!
Ive seen people get around the placement of the headphone jack with a usb or usbc to headphone jack adaptor
That's a great idea! Thanks for the tip! I may have to look into this myself.
I will use c type earphones for base which come with samsung note 10+....I'm using sb2 15inch...heating issues and backside rubbers are come outside..and everything is fine..
Can you connect the Surface Dock just to the Tablet part of the Surface Book?
I know you can connect the surface charger to just the tablet part. It does have the connector, so I would assume that you could connect the surface dock.
@@lavaninja9602 yup
I am considering this for my husband who loves painting on his surface pro 3, but also wants to use Adobe Premiere and After Effects. He also needs to do boring excel stuff for work and bring it with him using the tube across London. I noticed down below in the comments that you intend to return this because it is not powerful enough. Do you think it would be unsuitable for what we want it to do? Thinking of the i7 32gb, 512 SSD in 13.5 so it is comfortable to paint sitting in his chair watching TV.
It'll be more than powerful enough for painting and Adobe Premiere if he's only doing 1080p video editing. It's technically fast enough for 4k if you drop the playback resolution and don't watch the video at 2x playback speed (something I do often to speed up editing).
After Effects is the wildcard as it depends heavily on how advanced his use of it is. The Surface Book 3 can handle some light work, but if he starts adding multiple 3D bodies overlaid on multiple 4k video layers, the workflow will be much slower. It'll work, but he'll be watching the playback at about 3 to 5 frames per second. That said, after effects isn't meant to be played back like a video editor, it's made to add effects, then export them to a dedicated video editor like Premiere, which can play it back in real time.
But to be clear, the surface book is the best device for artists. So if 90% of his use will be painting, you won't find a better device than the surface book line.
I hope that helps!
@@TechisodeTV thank you so much for your reply! It was incredibly helpful!
Awesome! Glad I could help :)
ive got a surface book 2, 13inch, 1tb and its great! I want the gpu. ram upgrade though. price is nuts unfortunately. cpu isn't very good either.
Have you had issues with it randomly restarting? I had an original surface book and had to return it because it was so glitchy. I still love the surface book though and want to give the 3rd one a shot. Fully decked out. Do you still like yours?
What kind of battery life are you getting on the SB3? And how does that compare to the SB2? I recently purchased the 13.5 inch SB3 and am wondering what to expect in terms of battery. Thanks!
Hi! I have a question, without the surface adapter (sold separate hahaha) how can I connect the surface to an external monitor? Does an USB-C to HDMI work? Thanks ❤️
Yes you can
Yep, you can use the USB C port to connect to external monitors :)
Does the battery still drain if you use the surface book 3 charger on the surface book 2
I actually just uploaded a video talking about this :)
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@@TechisodeTV thank you so much your awesome
22:50 if that was an iPad, it would probably have just folded. The chassis for the book is actually quite strong.
You put ac plug wrong :P cable donn't plug of easly when you put it afterwards
Hi my friend, could you tell me if can I use the surface book 3 charger (127w) on the surface book 2 (102w)... are compatible?
Yep, it's compatible, but I'm still running tests to see if it charges the Surface Book 2 any faster. Charge time from 0% to 99% was 2 hours 20 minutes when using the 127W charger on the Surface Book 2. I still need to test the 102W charger.
@@TechisodeTV thank you very much!!
Me looking at surface book 3: This is briliant
Me looking at my surface book 2: But i like this
Is there a noticeable physical diff between book2 over book3? I mean won't you easily get conned buying a 3 but then be given a 2? Does my quesiton even make sense? lol
Ohhh Snap! Good to hear. But concerned that individuals aren't taking more precautions in packing. As a super expensive mobile device means a dedicated hard shell or reinforced pocket for protection. And surprised more reviewers are touting maximum protection with getting Microsoft Complete coverage for just these kinds of accidental breakage happenings.
It is just the connector base mechanics doesn't give me that real durable over time feeling and a concern of mine.
As someone who has used both laptops that need either one or two hands to open... I reaaaaally don't see the big deal with needing two hands.
I used Surface book 1, mine got bend right in the middle after me accidentally sitting on it which got misplaced on my chair.
Oh No!!!!!! im sorry):
Can you plug the surface book 2 tablet into the base of a surface book 3 and does it operate?
No. It will get stuck.
Very bad things happen. I'm uploading another video on Wednesday highlighting just how bad it is. EDIT: Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/e9VLninoDwA/w-d-xo.html
Can I use android apps while using it in tablet mode?
No
You can install Bluestacks and emulate Android on windows. I have not used Bluestacks for a good couple of years. It was always buggy and annoying but it does work and will allow you to use Android apps on the Surface.
Can it run vr?
Try using leather bag for durability and longevity.