The ORIGINAL DEATH of Rebecca Walters | (Jill & Charlie were CRUEL...) | SCRE4M

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  • @pablocortez9600
    @pablocortez9600 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I like this version. Rebecca being a friend would have more emotional impact. Plus her being a parallel for Tatum would be cool in that they were both killed in a garage.

  • @Ghostface1998
    @Ghostface1998 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I do like that extra line ghostface said about how it’s imperative Sidney doesn’t leave so she knows he will kill Rebecca. The death itself is simple so I prefer the one we got.

    • @yashsoni7614
      @yashsoni7614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo ghostface is here🌚 What's your favourite scary movie?😏😈

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @Ghostface1998
      @Ghostface1998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yashsoni7614 I mean there’s really only one answer and that’s scream

  • @pillsburidoughboi
    @pillsburidoughboi ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I LOVE every dialog that the killer said in the movie. The way he taunts Rebecca, the way he teases Kirby while hiding in Olivia's closet and every time he talked to Sidney. Just straight gold

  • @apostolos9387
    @apostolos9387 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The original version of her sounds much more likable so I would have preferred that. I do like how she was thrown off the parking lot in the final version though. However I think it was Jill who killed her. It makes sense that it would be charlie in the original script but as you said it'd be weird that he would just wait for her in the final script. Jill on the other hand was in the hospital at that time because of her arm injury (see the deleted scene with her and trevor) so she probably got discharged a bit later and did it herself

    • @charliedavis5787
      @charliedavis5787 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I completely agree. Every time I watch Scream 4, her death seems more pointless - she wasn't close to Sidney, she wasn't trying to get Sidney to leave. Her death served no purpose beyond another kill. This version of her would have made an impact on Sidney and honestly, we need someone else like Tatum again

    • @Left4Legends
      @Left4Legends ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@charliedavis5787 The Reason her death seemed pointless was because of the Fact that jill and Charlie Tried to Eliminate Sidney’s peers sooner rather than later so they can get her Alone in The Final Act but Sidney Fired Rebecca before jill and charlie found out about it which makes it look pointless when they Actually had a Reason

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most importantly, Jill said later to Sidney ‘I’m sorry about your publicist.’, like, it’s such a dead giveaway, the writing is on the wall!

    • @j2174
      @j2174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charliedavis5787 They should just have a third Riley sibling we haven’t met yet. Youngest sister. She should model herself after Tatum and kick but and survive.

    • @JamaicaZ160R1793010A
      @JamaicaZ160R1793010A ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Nicholas_Chen_ No idea how people miss that.

  • @sandragoth8293
    @sandragoth8293 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She was so annoying in the movie, I wish they’d made her likeable like this

  • @romefame
    @romefame ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I like both, the one we got made ghostface look bizarrely intimate with the kills especially rebecca's. But I do feel that we would have liked rebecca more if we got this version.

  • @2000fiona
    @2000fiona ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most people here are preferring the one we got, so here's how I'd do it:
    Keep Rebecca's character being Sidney's friend and keep some of the dialogue and the throat slit from the original, but also use the scene of her being thrown from above and some of the phone dialogue from the final version.

  • @jadegunner9234
    @jadegunner9234 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Scream 4 content is always 🔥

  • @myersfan5043
    @myersfan5043 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could listen to you talk about Scream all day. By far the best channel for the franchise

  • @RYANTHOMPS0N
    @RYANTHOMPS0N ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great work as usual!👏🏻👏🏻
    Fave scream channel!
    Now we have scream 4 script… can we shed any light on why they scrapped one of the most iconic lines to never make it in the movie… gale: “go ahead if you have the guts”

  • @megcollier3588
    @megcollier3588 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This series has been your best set of videos yet. I’m waiting for your uploads constantly

  • @James_Smith862
    @James_Smith862 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I will never understand why any studio would allow Erhen Krugar to touch their script. He's the Midas touch of mediocrity.

    • @daviddorsey5507
      @daviddorsey5507 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn that is brutal

    • @evanlusmann2689
      @evanlusmann2689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He wrote Top Gun Maverick and Arlington Road. Both good films

  • @jaimeav6050
    @jaimeav6050 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another angle Jill and Charlie could've had for killing Rebecca is that Rebecca is Sidney's tie to fame as her publicist. And maybe Rebecca's murder was done on a whim; Jill had Charlie follow them to the hospital to off Rebecca for this purpose.
    Notice that Jill tells Sidney "I'm sorry about your publicist" using her title instead of her name, which is very telling. She didn't want Sidney to have a publicist. In Jill's eyes, Sidney had enough fame and adoration already.

  • @jboao
    @jboao ปีที่แล้ว +6

    nah the version we got was MUCH better (minus the door handle breaking off). the og draft was just cheesy and not nearly as scary, suspenseful, or impactful. it may have provided a bit more logic behind who killed Rebecca, but we don’t come to Scream movies for logic. you can just assume Charlie had gained knowledge on Rebecca’s whereabouts off screen. the dialogue during the phone call was much better in the final product as well.

  • @jamesparks3967
    @jamesparks3967 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Can we take a moment to send some love to Beyond The Mask? His videos are always awesome, yet out of the bigger scream channels he seems to get lesser views. You're appreciated my friend, we love your content.

    • @myersfan5043
      @myersfan5043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What? Lol I don’t think he gets less views. Channels like critical overlord and killjoy Jake are only scraping in below 3k views a video. That’s low. At least BTM is bringing in like 20k+

  • @OnyxeBlade
    @OnyxeBlade ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The original plan for Rebecca is definitely better than what we got at the end

  • @tornadocohen
    @tornadocohen ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the original draft was a little darker, not just because Rebecca was more likeable, but it was a little more disturbing that the killer implied he was going to kill her and it took her a moment to realize it after he hung up on her. And the idea of the car moving out near a crowd of people is also a lot scarier and more suspenseful. I also find it scarier that he punches through the window and her screaming is cut short off-screen leaving it to your imagination and increasing how much we're worried about her before it's revealed her throat's been slashed. Honestly, that's a lot more realistic.
    Edit: I always had a thing for this death scene just feeling out of place compared to the others in the movie besides the killer jumping on the windshield to scare her and still liking the phone call. The chase scene itself was interesting and slightly tension-filled for a moment, but her not being likable and too dumb takes away from her death especially it being a simple gut in the belly. It wasn't strong enough for me impact-wise. Her throat being slit is a more fatal wound to show that she's dead. And the idea of the window being punched through just has a lot more weight where she didn't even have to make a stupid decision for the killer to be able to get her, which just implies the literal helplessness of her situation.

  • @its.k4yyy
    @its.k4yyy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i can’t tell you how OBSESSED i am with screa and your channel!

  • @mr.checkyourself4672
    @mr.checkyourself4672 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like both versions and Jill definitely killed Rebecca cause she was the one killing the ones that were close to Sidney.

    • @ilovezoom3719
      @ilovezoom3719 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah and literally no one who died was close to Sidney in this movie beside maybe Kate and Jill herself so that’s not valid but of course if it’s you’re opinion then it’s fine

    • @NoName-nb5nm
      @NoName-nb5nm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ilovezoom3719 Rebecca was close to Jill that was her publicist and assistant of you watched the movie so it's a very valid assumption and her death wasn't recorded meaning Charlie did not kill her.

    • @musicaudios1846
      @musicaudios1846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rebecca was also killed by Charlie. It was the same night as Olivia's murder and besides, Jill couldn't have killed her because she was being watched in the hospital and she didn't have a Ghostface costume with her. It also takes strength to throw a young woman off the roof. Rebecca died the same night as Olivia and Charlie had his costume with him.

    • @MarioStarKart
      @MarioStarKart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The kids were killed by Charlie. The adults were killed by Jill (except Trevor and Charlie)

  • @Joeboi76
    @Joeboi76 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sounds WAY better, and I love that Rebecca was more a friend than using Sid. Thanks for sharing all these changes! You rock

  • @jiwanj
    @jiwanj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The idea that Sid would ever hire someone remotely like Gale never made sense to me. I think the friendly Tatum like Rebecca would've been better, but the fall from the roof was dope.

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard2703 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This version sounds better but I would have liked the scene modified to be drawn out like in the theatrical version!

  • @clarkesteinman5098
    @clarkesteinman5098 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You keep cranking out surprisingly interesting content! Love it!

  • @naosoumarcelo
    @naosoumarcelo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the actress, so of course this version seems more interesting!

  • @vancewright45
    @vancewright45 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think if rebecca was more likeable her death would’ve been more impactful, so i prefer this version to the original.

  • @R.P.McMurphy
    @R.P.McMurphy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really liked this version more than the one we got.

  • @weightycarlos
    @weightycarlos ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly love both. But the phone call on the final version was iconic.

  • @TheMidnightSiege
    @TheMidnightSiege ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have liked a mix of this in the final movie. I prefer Rebecca’s chase scene as filmed with her being tossed from the building to what seems by this draft an off screen throat slash and slow roll down a hill.
    But the aspects of Rebecca and Sidney being friends would have been welcome additions. Even a quick scene explaining they were friends before Rebecca became her PR. Maybe Rebecca helped Sid get to the place of being able to write her book, see herself as not a victim. That could have been compelling bit of backstory.

  • @harryc3483
    @harryc3483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw an idea that I LOVED Jill and Rebecca being the murderers so they can be the modern day Sidney and Gale !!

  • @grahamrawlins6431
    @grahamrawlins6431 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the original draft version 😍

  • @MashedUpCultPopular
    @MashedUpCultPopular ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think this probably would have worked better for me personally. Rebecca was more of a walking characteristic than a character.
    Sidney not having any proper relationships with the other characters (besides Dewey and Gail by default) was ultimately the stronger choice.
    Can’t compare the actual kill because properly because the scene wasn’t staged, but I’d imagine what we got (thrown from the roof onto a van) would be cheaper to than craahing a car through the hospital doors.

  • @lightdarksoul2097
    @lightdarksoul2097 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I do like Rebecca being kind of a fame hungry character but I agree that the death makes more sense here

  • @mmullins2983
    @mmullins2983 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like her how we actually got her. I like that she was awful and you almost cheered when she finally got hers. I also like her being thrown off the building more than what was originally written.

  • @JonjoLyonsReviews
    @JonjoLyonsReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving this series mate.

  • @michaeldiamond2755
    @michaeldiamond2755 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is waaaaaaayyyyy better than what we got

  • @strangerthingsfan8444
    @strangerthingsfan8444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish they kept that original version because it would have made me like rebecca more

  • @kylechilutti9429
    @kylechilutti9429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish we got a combined version of this and the one we have. I wish Rebecca’s character was more of a friend rather than a media driven personality that wants to exploit Sidney. It would be much more impactful. But I do like how we saw her stabbed then thrown out of the parking garage. It was a much more “wow” factor, in my opinion

  • @wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf
    @wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i like this version where Rebecca is nice and not at least try to take a vantage of Sidney and where she knows what’s best for her and protector and being there for her I would just love if that wasn’t in the movie but I’m OK with the original one we got

  • @davidwalker3198
    @davidwalker3198 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I prefer how she was thrown off the building. But I do like the way they incorporated her being killed to stop Sidney leaving. That was better.

  • @DavesFriends
    @DavesFriends ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this version so much more. I always felt her character's demise felt phoned in. They just didn't do enough with her character

  • @bleeneo101
    @bleeneo101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her death was most deserving of all characters in the entire franchise. They were not cruel enough.

  • @dionnephd
    @dionnephd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d watch a “Making of Beyond the Mask” TH-cam series where you explain your choices as a creator. Well done series! 😘

  • @coleby1170
    @coleby1170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow they really cut that out, I like Scream 4 but it would be so much better with all the alternate scenes I've heard so far.

  • @TheScorpiokorea
    @TheScorpiokorea ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I generally liked this version. it seemed more suspenseful and cruel.

  • @StollenBunz
    @StollenBunz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wish we could have gotten the original version of this movie. It just sounds sooo much better. I feel so cheated.

  • @leamason9006
    @leamason9006 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved the original death, but I do think the original was better

  • @gavinfalcus8512
    @gavinfalcus8512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve just watched the movie and it was way better then expected, I kept away from the internet so I couldn’t see any spoilers or Leaks and wow, despite being no Sidney it was a good movie not scary and I guessed one of the killers, hopefully scream 7 will be confirmed and Sidney will be back

  • @justinmojica7112
    @justinmojica7112 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't like either I was rooting for Rebecca to live...😢 poor poor Rebecca 🥺💔🦄

  • @andrescorona6173
    @andrescorona6173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will always long for the original plans for the 2nd trilogy ;(

  • @charmedtommo8995
    @charmedtommo8995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This version is WAY better. Why do they keep changing things that would have been better? It’s frustrating

  • @icaliver
    @icaliver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blame the Weinstiens for their dirty mitts for over touching this franchise after 3, it works had it gone with Rebecca being a close friend, but we got what we got. Unless someone writes the unreleased version with all the characters we were supposed get. I heard there was character that was high school news edit version of Gale and Teacher was supposed to be framed making him a Cotton 2.0 if you will.

  • @bryantmanzanares7399
    @bryantmanzanares7399 ปีที่แล้ว

    🗣️ this was good but the suspense and whole sequence of the parking lot was great. And of course she’s a version of Gale it’s a Remake.

  • @andrewweckwerth8793
    @andrewweckwerth8793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This scene would've been awesome!

  • @brittanystallwood
    @brittanystallwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this version much better I think it makes more sense

  • @user-hz2of7ge3h
    @user-hz2of7ge3h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wayne Bailey's daughter Rebecca Waiter in scream 4
    🎉😢❤

  • @caydencausey
    @caydencausey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like what they did better like her being a villain

  • @kevinryanmccarthy
    @kevinryanmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why is there a press conference in front of the hospital? Lol it would work better if the town meeting wasn’t gathered in front of a random hospital. 🔪🔪

  • @charleykeating
    @charleykeating ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They reshot her death sequence right before the release in 2011 after screen test audiences viewed it . Was this version you speak of ever filmed or is the deleted scene the original version but then reshot ?

  • @j2174
    @j2174 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, I would never enter a dim parking lot when there is a GF attack happening haha

  • @mightybitchy
    @mightybitchy ปีที่แล้ว

    I also like this version better. But the death scene was too similar to Annie’s on Halloween. They should’ve went for the mini cat and mouse, there as well.

  • @ghonnh20
    @ghonnh20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jill is the one that kills Rebecca I the movie, actually
    It makes no sense for Charlie to be there and Jill probably followed her or wanted for her

    • @musicaudios1846
      @musicaudios1846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rebecca was killed by Charlie. It was the same night as Olivia's murder and besides, Jill couldn't have killed her because she was being watched in the hospital and she didn't have a Ghostface costume with her. It also takes strength to throw a young woman off the roof. Rebecca died the same night as Olivia and Charlie had his costume with him.

  • @itzklex9049
    @itzklex9049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jill & Charlie are the Most brutal Ghostfaces in this franchise

  • @CaleAdams
    @CaleAdams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like this version more

  • @ahronjohn57
    @ahronjohn57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought Rebecca’s Dad was going to show up in scream 6 to kill the killer but it never happened but I thought it was gonna be Rebecca’s dad not Quinn’s dad hmm I would of been good get Rebecca’s dad in scream 6 to get carry one Rebecca’s story :( hmm

  • @BULLET_DAVIS
    @BULLET_DAVIS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I got a question? Did anyone find out why Dewey wasn’t attacked/Targeted at all in scream 4?

  • @Decadencia_celestial
    @Decadencia_celestial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's better what we had on the original

  • @garland3688
    @garland3688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just don’t like cat killers.

  • @melissaisloud7404
    @melissaisloud7404 ปีที่แล้ว

    That death would’ve been much more impactful.

  • @kurtthompson5765
    @kurtthompson5765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems to me that a lot of the original scripts are way better then what they put out

  • @damenicionscott
    @damenicionscott ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still think Scream 4 is my favorite movie

  • @boredandsad8932
    @boredandsad8932 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think that the original would have been mch better, seeing as i agree with you and dont find it logical for charlie to just be chilling. i recently rewatched it with my sister and asked her how would they even know she was there lol.

  • @trixiebonds8052
    @trixiebonds8052 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have liked the og

  • @j2174
    @j2174 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does it seem a lot of the original drafts, characterisations, and scenes are often Bette than what we get?

  • @patrickdempsy14
    @patrickdempsy14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First…never clicked so fast

    • @its.k4yyy
      @its.k4yyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      congrats!

  • @bigjax731
    @bigjax731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @unknow7114
    @unknow7114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the movie version

  • @PopularHorrorSlut
    @PopularHorrorSlut ปีที่แล้ว +3

    we really need Kevin’s original scream 4 script.

  • @aelius93
    @aelius93 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is way better. EXCEPT, the way it should be is ...the same with her being thrown off the roof, landing on the van.
    But this is WAAAAAY better.
    The intensity and drama. Sidney hearing GF and just taking off running and right when she gets to the entrance, the body hits the van.