I’d say 3v still is awesome under realistic conditions. These destruction test will favor soft steel all the time. He could just as easily set up tests to favor stainless steel.
Actually, not. Softer steels may be favored in the sense that their edges will roll, but will not chip so easily. But, no steel goes without being broken. Under realistic and sensible conditions, a vast majority of knives would perform well. Joex's tests can also shed light on whether the knives are properly heat treated, have the proper grind for the steel, hardened to the optimal Rockwell for the steel, and have strong handles, screws, and pins. What would be a test that favors stainless steels? Corrosion resistance?
@@anthonytuccillo6274 It really looks like the ideal heat treat and steel selection in these tests would be the same as you would chose for a good sword, and I have yet to hear about any sword maker using 3V. You just want the most basic low/medium carbon steel with a heat treat to 50-55RC, that gets you excellent impact resistance and just enough hardness to take a razor edge.
Even 1095 performed better in his test so far. Upon reflecting on these past tests, my opinion is the processes used by the company to select, heat treat and finish the blade are what makes the knife super. So the overall processes and quality control of the company have to be super, not necessarily the steel.
WRONG! 1095 simply has less carbides and less hard than 3v. 1055 (cs machetes) preformed better than any other steel so far... do you really think they are doing super ht and qc to them? The nature of joes tests makes softer, simpler steels shine.
@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850 1095 has iron carbide or cementite . It was probably heat treated soft so did better. Cpm 3v should have better potential toughness than 1095.
Your videos further prove that the biggest factor is a knife’s durability is geometry. Also that if knives are used as hammers, they no longer serve the purpose they’re built for. Entertaining, nevertheless.
Powdered steels have too much carbides to be tough. Edge retention was good though. I wonder how CPM Magnacut would do 🤔 it's supposed to have better carbide layout
Let's put some basic knowledge here cause by the comments i read i believe most people don't know it.. First " the sharper and pointer a knife is the easiest it's gonna be to loose it's tip. You can't have pointy, thin and indestructible. Second " iron and steel are very close in terms of chemistry and toughness, now on the iron pol because it's rounded the thouch point of the impact is tiny wich means that the force that Joe puts is kinda destructive cause it's concentrated on this tiny spot. Third: glass is harder than steel, theres no way a tip won't loose a small piece when he's stabbing glass! Even if we cannot see it with our eyes on the camera.. I believe the srk did a great job because no matter how the advertising or name it in the end it is a military knife... that's why it was issued on the navy seals, and it had to be pointy and light etc.. Joe i believe it's time to test busse and miller bros blades now! Let's debunk these legends now.
Thank you for being. Your channel is the best in the world for me, because only he tells what I can count on when going to the forest. May the sun always shine on your head!!! People like you fill my life with meaning!
High-end steel blades hold an edge longer and more ridged at the cost of chipping easier and shattering if pushed past their limit. They do not rust as easily, and they cost more. Soft handles are fine until they fail, but add no strength to the knife. You do a great job of proving the difference. 👍
I’m just glad my srk is edc for flesh and bone as a backup to my pistol. Unless someone’s walking around with hard steel rib cages then….. I’m pretty happy with my srk.
I like you testing and your enthusiasm. You are not using the knife for what it was made for but your testing is the ultimate in destruction testing. You are a good lad
In my opinion Joe has done an amazing job showing the real world limitations of the so called "Supersteels". Im pretty stoked about the first piece of Magnacut he will get his hands on eventually. This stuff is all the hype now, but my guess is that the test wont be pretty. 😂😂 This man got me to sort my knife collection into "JoeX approved" and "Fancy decorative shit" 😂😂😂
@@joex I saw on a Shot-Show video that Spartan Blades will bring out a Ka-Bar in Magnacut this year and the dude seemed pretty confident about its superior durability. Might be worth a shot to get into contact with them and see if they send you a free one for testing, considering you have pretty reputable channel by now. Depending on if they do, it would be at least be a good indicator on how confident they really are about their products. 😏 Would be a good test also, since you have already tested the standard Ka-Bar, but only if you get a free one, i expect no sane person to pay their prices. 😆 Anyways, i really appreciate your work and hope you can continue it for a long time. Best regards, my friend! 💪
@@pollolocogrande. A good reason not to buy any of the early runs of a Any new medals. 1095 has been around forever. It's been gone thru. None of this new shit has. The truth is that some makers might have the hear treat down and others . Not so much. Everybody be buying all this new super steel and I'm just getting into the CPM 154. Lol
It's hilarious to consider smashing a hardened knife blade against a rock is somehow a test of of its performance. Would you drive a Ferrari through a swamp to test its performance?
Expensive CPM 3V steel proved to be not nearly as tough as the advertising would have us believe. Thanks Joe, for cutting through😄the hype, once again.
I think 3V can deliver on its claims but only in custom or semi-custom shops that can spend the necessary time in heat treatment protocol to properly balance the steels properties. Just my 2 cents.
It ain't worth $300 for certain. I bought it in San Mai for under $100 on sale. Believe it or not, SRK in SRK5 can not be sold on Amazon and shipped Californication. I could buy it in San Mai? Let that sink in how stupid Caloco is. After seeing this, I am glad I bought the cheapest stainless steel. It looks like it is not full tang since the handle got loose, and Joe X shot a hole threw the handle?
I have the srk in 3v. It's tough as nails, any fighting knife with a thin piercing tip will break with that kind of abuse no matter what steel it is. It's not vibranium.
Bei der Schneide war ich beeindruckt......aber ich bleib lieber bei der AUS 8 Version. Geiles Video! Genau richtig zum Feierabend. Gruß aus der Bananenrepublik
The handle being wobbly, is typical for the rubber onto the tang style that Cold Steel has. It's better to have the rubber on the polypropylene which is onto the tang. Like Mora does. 3V tip broke during the car stabs, that was not as tough , as is said by many of 3V. Not going to spend my bucks on that. The edge did fine on the stone, then again, the pole broke the blade easily. It's a bit weird . Edge doesn't chip out, but tip breaks easy. Maybe a bit Becker like.
Awesome video as always, bro. I wonder if you will eventually single handedly inspire these knife makers to heat treat the super steels to a lower HRC to gain greater toughness. I get that they're probably aiming for max edge retention but that was a thick ass blade to just shear in half like that when a mora robust is like 1/3 the thickness and wouldn't break under much harder abuse
Looks like it did well to me, everything breaks when you abuse it enough even the crowbar joe tested broke. 3v is very tough but its also fairly stainless for a non stainless knife.
Yes they are 59-61 hrc and they absolutely would be tougher at 57 to 58 hrc, but that would mean they wouldn't hold as good of an edge as well. Also it would probably effect edge stability. That being said i own a fehrman extreme judgment in 3v its hrc is 57 to 59 and it is noticeably tougher than my srk in 3v. However it is a quarter inch thick and the srk is about 3/16ths.
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@@mikeboyce21 But it's ineteresting how the knife bent, like it,s softer et the top and harder and more bittle down where it broke
Iirc from Crucible industries data sheets (makers of 3v) it attains maximum toughness at 58 hrc. Once it gets to 60 hrc you've lost 30% of its toughness and then past 60 it goes down quite quick but obviously better edge retention. So heat treat is critical dehending on what you want out of a knife. I still think at around 60hrc the balance of good edge retention and good toughness along with being as easy to sharpen as a simple carbon steel on diamonds is a nice balanced steel. If you want to pound it with a large rock or mild steel pole then really you shouldn't be using a knife.
3V with a good heat treating is good: it cuts very well, keeps its sharpness for a long time and is pretty easy to resharpen, plus it is semi stainless. It has a very good stain resistance for a carbon steel. However 3V toughness is not amazing when heat treated too hard. It has to stay low on the HRC scale to keep its toughness. At 58 it's very good, it cuts and it resists stress. At 60+ it cuts a bit more and breaks far easier. When the 3V craziness started more than a decade ago, the few expensive knives made in 3V were excellent high end tools. Brands like Zero Tolerance or Survive produced 3V knives with an optimized HT. Nowadays these hyped companies sell it as a magical steel, even if a good knife in C75, 440 or AUS 6-8 is better than their made in taiwan 3V@60+ :D 3V is the new 440. Its reputation is becoming sh-t thanks to its misused by greedy clowns. Again, great review.
I want to buy a knife, and i was thinking about Cold Steel Leatherneck-SF 39LSFC, what do you think? Or Cold Steel Drop Forged Survivalist 36MH? Or something at that price more good? Thanks! 😁
Nice test and video, Joe. The 3V disappoints me every time. But I would be interested to see the Cold Steel AK 47 field knife in 3V (perhaps it performs a bit better than the rest) and the Swift in XHP (with I own). I think this are knives which are interested for you, cause you like Cold Steel and robust knives.
@@joex sorry but the now discontinued warcraft tanto in 3v is a whole different fucking beast over the srk in 3v. I have both and the warcraft is much thicker and full tang you see and is thick from end to end not that lightweight handle bullshit they have on the srk. Holding both in hand you really can tell how much beefier and heavy the warcraft is. However I agree that softer steels definitely roll ove or fold over before they chip/break . Would love to the magnacut cut tested cause the guy who formulated swears its hard as fuck and won't break but I believe everything is breakable : )
It was very interesting test for me, because i have Recon Tanto in 3V and those are comparable knives. And i am not impressed. Thought 3V is super tough steel, but now i see, its mediocre. My new wish is AK-12 bayonet, called 6X9. I think it is superknife.
Joe X, what is your opinion. Is it worthy to buy SRK in CPM 3V? I see is pretty tough blade steel, but what do you think obout the handle tang? I have from 15 years ago AUS 8 japanese model SRK, it is very good knife, but steel is a bit on soft side. I would like to have it in premium steel too. Thanks!
@@joex What is your acceptable price range? Toughness and strength can be pushed up with heat treatment with cheap steels. Only edge retention is related to higher priced steels. There are ways to cut production costs. 8" to 10" choppers can be made for selling for 150€. Under that it's going to get small and thin.
@@joex SRK in 420HC could be it and would compete with Strongman. Anything bigger and we come to Condor Ironpath. Cheap handle and sheath gives the blade an opportunity. Maybe worth testing.:)
3V seems to be a victim of it's success and people think it's indestructible.... how ever I've used the taiwan made black blade SRK 3V for years now and it's really really good holds an edge and takes beatings all day.. definitely my go to war knife.
I was the biggest cold steel fan. All my knives are cold steel but it’s obvious, this new company isn’t producing knives with HALF the quality as when Lynn owned and operated cold steel. What a shame that the old mighty dollar had to ruin such a quality product.
even 5160 is tougher than 3v. 3v is tough for what it is , semi stainless and high carbide. 3v uses power metallurgy to keep carbides small and makes for a tough blade than say..a D2 (conventionally melt and made)
Nice video friend. But i have a question to you.. I want to buy the cold steel trailmaster cpm 3v.. Its almost 450 euro. But i dont trust that knife..i seems like the guard can go rattle.. I have my old Ontario Raider Bowie knife and it never let me down. What you think is the better of the one?
I gave $109 USD at Midway USA for my Taiwan made 3V SRK. I believe the Survival Lilly AUS 8 budget steel Knife is $300 USD. Lets see it chop some glass bottles and see how long the edge lasts on it. I believe most of Joe's fanbase want to see Cold Steel 3V fail. So he makes certain it does.
Im wondering if a Reiff F6” in 3v could survive a JoeX torture test? 😂 my money is on Joe! All things being fair here i think the CS 3v held up pretty well under brutal testing conditions.. that stump and stone and the steel pipe i dont care what it comes up against its not gonna last long.. its just a matter of when? And How bad? Cheers from the USA my friend!
Very good destruction test of 3V! Hope Cold Steel will join the MagnaCut party soon so we will see how tough that steel is. I am buying another 4-Max as it is the only knife didn't break in Joe's hands. 😁
I heard Condor makes some tough Bowie knives in 1075 . They probably think their stuff is super strong. It would be a shame if someone really...tested them.
Give it a few strokes on a diamond stone and it's like new. Doesn't seem much affected to me. :)). Good job! PS: in Austria do they psychologically test you, before being allowed to buy guns...? I nearly had a heart attack when you shot in the direction of the camera. I thought you've shot me... then I thought you've shot Mr. Bricko.
My suggestion to you Joe, purchase an RMJ tactical shrike or talon which are actually designed to take that abuse as breaching tools. That will make you much happier.
If you need to fight off a car and a stone monster and need a blunt club, definitely to for thick AUS8 knife or a rubber plastic sword. Either is good 🤣 Interesting to see the abuse limits none the less. More or less the same outcome every time.
Very Informative Video! Nice one Joe! Mach weiter so! I would like to ask if you can test the Cold Steel Code 4 Tanto in S35VN because Tantos held up better than other blade styles! I would love to see a Video about a Code 4 Tanto in S35VN because you only tested the spear point or clip point.
@joex so funny how the cheaper "lite" version was stronger, s35vn is a better steel for holding an edge but in a survival situation if the blade breaks its useless. I will take the cheap steel, save some money and get a more dependable blade. Thanks for doing this!
Impressive the amount of abuse! I believe Joe X lists the SRK among his top favorite knives, but in SK5, which he said broke easier than the 3V version. Joe X, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you favor the SK5 version simply based on cost, but that the 3V version held up to more abuse than the SK5, is that right?
yeeeup! everything i said in last comment and add royalty free music with sped up knife tests ! and slowed down footage while you talk ! you will be on your way to 1 millions brother !
If a knife makes it to the iron rod before breaking, it's above average. If it makes it to where Joe's shooting it afterward, then that's the one for end of days 🔥
This would be the same as taking a Cheap One Hundred Dollar rifle and a Ten thousand dollar sniper rifle. You could Abuse the sniper rifle by beating it against a steel pole and damaging it to where it could no longer fire. Do the same to the cheap rifle and it might take longer to damage the cheap rifle. Now take the same two rifles to the range without damage and the sniper rifle will be far more accurate and much easier to shoot. So just because the cheaper rifle took longer to damage by abusing it does that make it a better gun? No the accuracy of the rifle does. Same with the knives. When used for the intended applications the 3V steel will perform much better than the budget steels such as Aus 8. It comes down to using the right tool for the right job. That being said I still love your channel and find it very entertaining.
Maybe for your next test on 3V steel take a cutting torch or plasma arc and cut the blade into little pieces so the all the haters can talk about how bad the steel performed. Most of them on here wouldn't even know any better. They would be like " I won't be buying that, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of indestructible supersteel. "
Imagine if you were to test the Gurka kukri in 3V from Cold Steel. The cheapest I've seen it sell for is 500 dollars on DLT Trading, and 612 on Knifecenter. GSM just keeps putting out these original models in what they see as better steel but I personally think it's a heat treatment problem.
Я думаю, что проблема в самой компании GSM. Лучше найти старые модели, выпущенные оригиналами - чем гнаться за новыми «суперсталями», которые делают GSM Outdoor. К сожалению, легенды превратились в обычный американский маркетинг
Knife fans around the world support JOE. He is the type of genius who considers the obvious.
My knife purchased is solely bass on his testing.😁
cool thanks!
Amen! 🍻
@@thanoshalo7102 still waiting #1 hard use knives in the world for JOE X.. I means EMERSON KNIVES!!!
@@Jo_Blo just do it.. what they claims
No knife on this planet has been truly tested until we’ve seen what it can take on this channel. Thanks JOE X
cool u are welcome!
Finally someone who tests the limits of CS's 3v. Kudos to you
👌👍
Otherwise known as "3 We," LOL.
I’d say 3v still is awesome under realistic conditions. These destruction test will favor soft steel all the time. He could just as easily set up tests to favor stainless steel.
cool!
Actually, not. Softer steels may be favored in the sense that their edges will roll, but will not chip so easily. But, no steel goes without being broken. Under realistic and sensible conditions, a vast majority of knives would perform well. Joex's tests can also shed light on whether the knives are properly heat treated, have the proper grind for the steel, hardened to the optimal Rockwell for the steel, and have strong handles, screws, and pins. What would be a test that favors stainless steels? Corrosion resistance?
what would favor 3V: Edge retention, wear retention, stainlessness. Just about all attributes that you need in a realistic knife scenario.@@jolier1313
Joex is single handedly changing the entire knife communities opinion on what it means to be a super steel.
thanks a lot! i hope it changes!!!!!!!
@@joex was it the made in Italy or Taiwan SRK joe??
i dont know, i can not check becaus i am not home!
the website says Taiwan!
www.knivesandtools.de/de/pt/-cold-steel-srk-cpm-3v-38cke-survivalmesser.htm
@@joex thanks Joe 😊
This steel maybe has its three V's, but Joe has absolutely zero F's to give. 😏
As always, great work! 👍
AMEN my friend!
This man's videos are going to be invaluable during the inevitable car uprising.
who needs cars in the future?
@@joex In a future where you own nothing and happy about it?
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Still surprised that 3V is breaking so easily, a few years ago I never would have guessed this would be the result.
it is what it is!!!!
i have some more failures from CS to come!
Hmm makes me not want to spend money based on exotic blade steals anymore. It seems the lower end steels perform much better 🤨
@@anthonytuccillo6274 It really looks like the ideal heat treat and steel selection in these tests would be the same as you would chose for a good sword, and I have yet to hear about any sword maker using 3V.
You just want the most basic low/medium carbon steel with a heat treat to 50-55RC, that gets you excellent impact resistance and just enough hardness to take a razor edge.
@@anthonytuccillo6274 not all knives require JoeX treatment, some just need to cut stuff (other than cars or bricks or shotguns)😂
I loved hearing the sound of the blade whizzing by the camera. Good stuff!
yeah it sounds supersonic!
Even 1095 performed better in his test so far. Upon reflecting on these past tests, my opinion is the processes used by the company to select, heat treat and finish the blade are what makes the knife super. So the overall processes and quality control of the company have to be super, not necessarily the steel.
good comment!
WRONG! 1095 simply has less carbides and less hard than 3v. 1055 (cs machetes) preformed better than any other steel so far... do you really think they are doing super ht and qc to them? The nature of joes tests makes softer, simpler steels shine.
@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850
@@mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850 1095 has iron carbide or cementite . It was probably heat treated soft so did better. Cpm 3v should have better potential toughness than 1095.
@@JohnFrumFromAmerica Which 1095 was better than this one?
Your videos further prove that the biggest factor is a knife’s durability is geometry.
Also that if knives are used as hammers, they no longer serve the purpose they’re built for.
Entertaining, nevertheless.
glad u love it!
Powdered steels have too much carbides to be tough. Edge retention was good though. I wonder how CPM Magnacut would do 🤔 it's supposed to have better carbide layout
yeah, would be interesting!
It seems that too much of anything is not a good thing...
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Let's put some basic knowledge here cause by the comments i read i believe most people don't know it..
First " the sharper and pointer a knife is the easiest it's gonna be to loose it's tip. You can't have pointy, thin and indestructible.
Second " iron and steel are very close in terms of chemistry and toughness, now on the iron pol because it's rounded the thouch point of the impact is tiny wich means that the force that Joe puts is kinda destructive cause it's concentrated on this tiny spot.
Third: glass is harder than steel, theres no way a tip won't loose a small piece when he's stabbing glass! Even if we cannot see it with our eyes on the camera..
I believe the srk did a great job because no matter how the advertising or name it in the end it is a military knife... that's why it was issued on the navy seals, and it had to be pointy and light etc..
Joe i believe it's time to test busse and miller bros blades now!
Let's debunk these legends now.
wow, thanks for the intel bro!
I thought for a second cold steel came out with a Bowie version of the srk😂
the name says it!
Thank you for being. Your channel is the best in the world for me, because only he tells what I can count on when going to the forest. May the sun always shine on your head!!! People like you fill my life with meaning!
cool, thanks!
Knife Manufacturer: "Our new knife with this wonder super steel is unbreakable!"
JOEX:"Hold my my freakin' f#cking beer"
exaclty! haha!
High-end steel blades hold an edge longer and more ridged at the cost of chipping easier and shattering if pushed past their limit. They do not rust as easily, and they cost more. Soft handles are fine until they fail, but add no strength to the knife. You do a great job of proving the difference. 👍
thanks Gizmo!
thanks Gizmo!
Always depends about which steel we talk. The world of steel is big.
@@wesleysnider2915 true!
I’m just glad my srk is edc for flesh and bone as a backup to my pistol. Unless someone’s walking around with hard steel rib cages then….. I’m pretty happy with my srk.
pistol is always good!!!
I like you testing and your enthusiasm.
You are not using the knife for what it was made for but your testing is the ultimate in destruction testing. You are a good lad
Marlboro!!! thanks!
In my opinion Joe has done an amazing job showing the real world limitations of the so called "Supersteels".
Im pretty stoked about the first piece of Magnacut he will get his hands on eventually.
This stuff is all the hype now, but my guess is that the test wont be pretty. 😂😂
This man got me to sort my knife collection into "JoeX approved" and "Fancy decorative shit" 😂😂😂
cool thanks!
@@joex I saw on a Shot-Show video that Spartan Blades will bring out a Ka-Bar in Magnacut this year and the dude seemed pretty confident about its superior durability.
Might be worth a shot to get into contact with them and see if they send you a free one for testing, considering you have pretty reputable channel by now.
Depending on if they do, it would be at least be a good indicator on how confident they really are about their products. 😏
Would be a good test also, since you have already tested the standard Ka-Bar, but only if you get a free one, i expect no sane person to pay their prices. 😆
Anyways, i really appreciate your work and hope you can continue it for a long time.
Best regards, my friend! 💪
@@pollolocogrande. A good reason not to buy any of the early runs of a
Any new medals. 1095 has been around forever. It's been gone thru. None of this new shit has. The truth is that some makers might have the hear treat down and others . Not so much. Everybody be buying all this new super steel and I'm just getting into the CPM 154. Lol
It's hilarious to consider smashing a hardened knife blade against a rock is somehow a test of of its performance. Would you drive a Ferrari through a swamp to test its performance?
Expensive CPM 3V steel proved to be not nearly as tough as the advertising would have us believe. Thanks Joe, for cutting through😄the hype, once again.
Very welcome!
I think 3V can deliver on its claims but only in custom or semi-custom shops that can spend the necessary time in heat treatment protocol to properly balance the steels properties.
Just my 2 cents.
It ain't worth $300 for certain. I bought it in San Mai for under $100 on sale. Believe it or not, SRK in SRK5 can not be sold on Amazon and shipped Californication. I could buy it in San Mai? Let that sink in how stupid Caloco is. After seeing this, I am glad I bought the cheapest stainless steel.
It looks like it is not full tang since the handle got loose, and Joe X shot a hole threw the handle?
I have the srk in 3v. It's tough as nails, any fighting knife with a thin piercing tip will break with that kind of abuse no matter what steel it is. It's not vibranium.
Bei der Schneide war ich beeindruckt......aber ich bleib lieber bei der AUS 8 Version. Geiles Video! Genau richtig zum Feierabend. Gruß aus der Bananenrepublik
Danke dir 👍
Maaaan! This „Schwiiiing“ is sooo beautiful! ❤️🍻
Yeah, I think it‘s gone … you did it again - Ab auf‘s stille Stiegl! 😂🍻
Nice pump action!
thanks a lot Hightower!
thanks a lot Hightower!
thanks a lot Hightower!
The handle being wobbly, is typical for the rubber onto the tang style that Cold Steel has. It's better to have the rubber on the polypropylene which is onto the tang.
Like Mora does.
3V tip broke during the car stabs, that was not as tough , as is said by many of 3V.
Not going to spend my bucks on that.
The edge did fine on the stone, then again, the pole broke the blade easily.
It's a bit weird . Edge doesn't chip out, but tip breaks easy.
Maybe a bit Becker like.
thanks for the intel! cheers!
@@joex
😁👍
you study the blade i study the blade too, i got accepted into blade academy seki city, learning Japanese right now
Cool! You could send Joe a knife from Seki, the city of blades.
Congrats ang godspeed
was in Japan once, not impressed!
Arigato
Awesome video as always, bro. I wonder if you will eventually single handedly inspire these knife makers to heat treat the super steels to a lower HRC to gain greater toughness.
I get that they're probably aiming for max edge retention but that was a thick ass blade to just shear in half like that when a mora robust is like 1/3 the thickness and wouldn't break under much harder abuse
That would be insane!!!!🤟
Looks like it did well to me, everything breaks when you abuse it enough even the crowbar joe tested broke. 3v is very tough but its also fairly stainless for a non stainless knife.
I think cold steel heat treats these at 60-61…. If they went 57-58 I think it would be a tougher steel
Yes they are 59-61 hrc and they absolutely would be tougher at 57 to 58 hrc, but that would mean they wouldn't hold as good of an edge as well. Also it would probably effect edge stability. That being said i own a fehrman extreme judgment in 3v its hrc is 57 to 59 and it is noticeably tougher than my srk in 3v. However it is a quarter inch thick and the srk is about 3/16ths.
@@mikeboyce21 But it's ineteresting how the knife bent, like it,s softer et the top and harder and more bittle down where it broke
Iirc from Crucible industries data sheets (makers of 3v) it attains maximum toughness at 58 hrc. Once it gets to 60 hrc you've lost 30% of its toughness and then past 60 it goes down quite quick but obviously better edge retention. So heat treat is critical dehending on what you want out of a knife. I still think at around 60hrc the balance of good edge retention and good toughness along with being as easy to sharpen as a simple carbon steel on diamonds is a nice balanced steel. If you want to pound it with a large rock or mild steel pole then really you shouldn't be using a knife.
Great to see this tested, awesome.
thanks!
Thanks Joe👍👍
Been wondering how this steel would hold up to you.
Now we know!
cool!
3V with a good heat treating is good: it cuts very well, keeps its sharpness for a long time and is pretty easy to resharpen, plus it is semi stainless. It has a very good stain resistance for a carbon steel. However 3V toughness is not amazing when heat treated too hard. It has to stay low on the HRC scale to keep its toughness. At 58 it's very good, it cuts and it resists stress. At 60+ it cuts a bit more and breaks far easier. When the 3V craziness started more than a decade ago, the few expensive knives made in 3V were excellent high end tools. Brands like Zero Tolerance or Survive produced 3V knives with an optimized HT. Nowadays these hyped companies sell it as a magical steel, even if a good knife in C75, 440 or AUS 6-8 is better than their made in taiwan 3V@60+ :D 3V is the new 440. Its reputation is becoming sh-t thanks to its misused by greedy clowns.
Again, great review.
thanks for the info!
the rubber handle has always been the weak point they should just make them fulltang with normal handle scales,i think it did ok
would be great for sure!
Hell yeah…. Been waiting for this one
That's what ya get when you call Joe a Cold Steel fan boy in the comments section.
Another COLD STEEL KNIFE REVIEW !!! 👍😆
thanks a lot Frank!
Good work again Joe. I've been looking at those 3V CS knives online & wondering if they are worth the money.
thanks!
Great film, i think is the strongest srk knive. What do you think gerber strongarm part2?
Strongarm, maybe!
I would like to see you to test the Joker knives.. they seem to be cheap for what they offer.
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Durch dich bin ich auf Glock Messer gekommen und ich bin begeistert 👍👍👍👍👍👍
cool!
Damn good test Joe!
thanks!
I want to buy a knife, and i was thinking about
Cold Steel Leatherneck-SF 39LSFC, what do you think?
Or Cold Steel Drop Forged Survivalist 36MH?
Or something at that price more good? Thanks! 😁
check my Top 15 videos!
@@joex do you think the SRK SK 5 cold steel is more good that the learherneck sf ?
Terava or Garberg. Zappa was right: the 3xpensive, hyped stuff is a bit cheesy but nicely displayed.
Nice test and video, Joe. The 3V disappoints me every time. But I would be interested to see the Cold Steel AK 47 field knife in 3V (perhaps it performs a bit better than the rest) and the Swift in XHP (with I own). I think this are knives which are interested for you, cause you like Cold Steel and robust knives.
this was the best 3V so far but still overhyped steel!
@@joex sorry but the now discontinued warcraft tanto in 3v is a whole different fucking beast over the srk in 3v. I have both and the warcraft is much thicker and full tang you see and is thick from end to end not that lightweight handle bullshit they have on the srk. Holding both in hand you really can tell how much beefier and heavy the warcraft is. However I agree that softer steels definitely roll ove or fold over before they chip/break . Would love to the magnacut cut tested cause the guy who formulated swears its hard as fuck and won't break but I believe everything is breakable : )
@@kindakool2529
yo joe where did you get those dope flektarn pants.... i need them
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What is the best tactical survival knife ????🔪
there are many, but i like SRKs! and Glocks!
@@joex thank you brother
What's your favorite Bowie?
Joe do you recommend the srk in sk5 the most out of the 3 available ones
AUS8 would i take!
but from the available ones SK5 !!!! yes sir!
It was very interesting test for me, because i have Recon Tanto in 3V and those are comparable knives. And i am not impressed. Thought 3V is super tough steel, but now i see, its mediocre.
My new wish is AK-12 bayonet, called 6X9. I think it is superknife.
cool!
Could you please do a test of the Fällnkniven Modern Bowie 10?🙏
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Joe X, what is your opinion. Is it worthy to buy SRK in CPM 3V? I see is pretty tough blade steel, but what do you think obout the handle tang? I have from 15 years ago AUS 8 japanese model SRK, it is very good knife, but steel is a bit on soft side. I would like to have it in premium steel too.
Thanks!
it is a ok blade if u have the money!
@joex , thank you! I appreciate your opinion! Most likely I will buy it in this version with 3V steel, because nothing else catch my eye.
Hi Joe. Good test. Aus 8 is the best from cold steel
i think so too!
Have you tested cold steel 4034? Would be interested to know if it’s worth the money for 3v “toughness”
yes i did!
Great vid! I'd like to see the Bark River Bravo 1 in 3V put thru a destruction test!
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Joe..... Why not the BRK Bravo 1 in 3V test?
Hi Joe I prefer the 'cheap' one sk5,wish it was aus8-10 and pls remember that when this knife go aout in the market sk5 was 260 euros
cool!
The old aus 8 Srk wasn’t nearly as brittle
ok
Not bad. Edge hold a lot. Still could be sharpened. Not the best 3V heat treatment but for 200money it's good.
too expensive
@@joex What is your acceptable price range? Toughness and strength can be pushed up with heat treatment with cheap steels. Only edge retention is related to higher priced steels. There are ways to cut production costs. 8" to 10" choppers can be made for selling for 150€. Under that it's going to get small and thin.
@@JoeBusic 100 Euro
@@joex SRK in 420HC could be it and would compete with Strongman. Anything bigger and we come to Condor Ironpath. Cheap handle and sheath gives the blade an opportunity. Maybe worth testing.:)
@@JoeBusic no!
3V seems to be a victim of it's success and people think it's indestructible.... how ever I've used the taiwan made black blade SRK 3V for years now and it's really really good holds an edge and takes beatings all day.. definitely my go to war knife.
it is ok! the blade did not so bad!
Good choice for testing. 3v.
Another great test!👏👏👏👏👏
thanks!
Does anyone know where that particular SRK was made , China , Taiwan or Italy ??
not in Italy!!!!
Joe, I think your car needs some maintenance done 😆 Great test as always.
thanks, 2,5 weeks to go!!!!!
@@joex in 2,5 weeks you turn it into a cabrio 😎
@@_laude__ yes my dear!
I was the biggest cold steel fan. All my knives are cold steel but it’s obvious, this new company isn’t producing knives with HALF the quality as when Lynn owned and operated cold steel. What a shame that the old mighty dollar had to ruin such a quality product.
I kind of agree!!!!
This is the way of so many companies … they don‘t ask and listen to their customers any more
@@hightower196X true.
@@hightower196X
it was predictable by showing off a 400-600 Bucks 4Max “Elite”
even 5160 is tougher than 3v. 3v is tough for what it is , semi stainless and high carbide. 3v uses power metallurgy to keep carbides small and makes for a tough blade than say..a D2 (conventionally melt and made)
thanks for the intel! cheers!
If you want a knife to rely on which steel would you choose?
Aus8
Nice video friend.
But i have a question to you..
I want to buy the cold steel trailmaster cpm 3v..
Its almost 450 euro.
But i dont trust that knife..i seems like the guard can go rattle..
I have my old Ontario Raider Bowie knife and it never let me down.
What you think is the better of the one?
too expensive!
never had a trailmaster!
There is another Cold Steel SRK in 3V steel made in Italy. Maybe different heat treat?
don't know
This one was made in Italy.
@@redhorse3873 This one has the new Cold Steel logo. It is made in Taiwan. Pre GSM model was made in Italy. I know because I own both.
I gave $109 USD at Midway USA for my Taiwan made 3V SRK. I believe the Survival Lilly AUS 8 budget steel Knife is $300 USD. Lets see it chop some glass bottles and see how long the edge lasts on it. I believe most of Joe's fanbase want to see Cold Steel 3V fail. So he makes certain it does.
yes u are 100 % right!
Thanks for another awesome video.
Thanks for watching!
Try TRC apocalyptic (^ ^). Or try Winkler crush belt
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Im wondering if a Reiff F6” in 3v could survive a JoeX torture test? 😂 my money is on Joe!
All things being fair here i think the CS 3v held up pretty well under brutal testing conditions.. that stump and stone and the steel pipe i dont care what it comes up against its not gonna last long.. its just a matter of when? And How bad? Cheers from the USA my friend!
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Very good destruction test of 3V! Hope Cold Steel will join the MagnaCut party soon so we will see how tough that steel is. I am buying another 4-Max as it is the only knife didn't break in Joe's hands. 😁
cool!
Well CS is introducing their Recon folders in Magnacut soon, which are being made in Italy. Might have to check those out.
Great knife!
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can you do somthing with magnacut
magnacunt is just a fancy word for AUS8 !!!
I heard Condor makes some tough Bowie knives in 1075 . They probably think their stuff is super strong.
It would be a shame if someone really...tested them.
Time to put the rest of that 3V blade in the lake to see it rust... or not.
It actually did pretty good. Not as good as cheap 1055 but still...ok.
Probably good for smaller knives you want to stay sharp longer.
maybe!
Give it a few strokes on a diamond stone and it's like new. Doesn't seem much affected to me. :)). Good job!
PS: in Austria do they psychologically test you, before being allowed to buy guns...?
I nearly had a heart attack when you shot in the direction of the camera. I thought you've shot me... then I thought you've shot Mr. Bricko.
i am not normal!!!
@@joex you seem fine to me.🤘
Paranormal investigations put it in your pussy pouch
Gerber strong arm for 90$ or Srk 3v for 130$ or essee 6 for 150$? Thnx🙏
u are welcome!
Was the knife you tested made in Italy or Taiwan?
taiwan
@@joex OK👍
Was thinking of getting an srk in 3v, but if the tip is breaking off just stabbing into glass and the dash, im gonna go with something else
good idea!
Do a wander tactical haasr eagle or smilodon
nope
My suggestion to you Joe, purchase an RMJ tactical shrike or talon which are actually designed to take that abuse as breaching tools.
That will make you much happier.
i dont think so!
but maybe someone will send me one!
I threw my SRK at a tree for a few minutes, results: loose handle..
Not a fan of these over molded handles/grips..
thats bad!
If you need to fight off a car and a stone monster and need a blunt club, definitely to for thick AUS8 knife or a rubber plastic sword. Either is good 🤣 Interesting to see the abuse limits none the less. More or less the same outcome every time.
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The outcome is mostly the same, but the length and hardness of the way to the grand finale is different … and that‘s the interesting part 🍻
@@joex Keep up the fun work!!
Very Informative Video! Nice one Joe! Mach weiter so!
I would like to ask if you can test the Cold Steel Code 4 Tanto in S35VN because Tantos held up better than other blade styles!
I would love to see a Video about a Code 4 Tanto in S35VN because you only tested the spear point or clip point.
u are welcome!
Joe, have you thought about trying the KA-BAR D2 Extreme Fighting Knife? thanks for the videos I subscribed.
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cool!
D2 is not considered a tough steel around these parts man.
@@johnsun11 Consider all you like, but facts decide the matter, Joe X should prove it by testing it.
I am VERY disappointed in cold steel 3v…. What would you give this knife 1 out of 10? Should I be worried about my trailmaster in 3v?
6,5
So get the cheaper srk lite folder? Got it
true!
@joex so funny how the cheaper "lite" version was stronger, s35vn is a better steel for holding an edge but in a survival situation if the blade breaks its useless. I will take the cheap steel, save some money and get a more dependable blade. Thanks for doing this!
Impressive the amount of abuse! I believe Joe X lists the SRK among his top favorite knives, but in SK5, which he said broke easier than the 3V version. Joe X, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you favor the SK5 version simply based on cost, but that the 3V version held up to more abuse than the SK5, is that right?
i like all SRKS!
I guess the SRK-C SK5 proved to be the best
Aus8!!!
Don’t want any cold steel knives after they sold the company !
ok
Hi . Thank you for posting useful and valuable videos. Please test the karambit fox dart .
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I wish Joe could get his hands on a Bark River Knives Bravo in 3V!
i did one!
yeeeup! everything i said in last comment and add royalty free music with sped up knife tests ! and slowed down footage while you talk ! you will be on your way to 1 millions brother !
thanks, i hope bro!!!
Joe, I reckon you could fuck up a Viking sword 😂
or a viking princess!
@@joex funny as. Who made your moral patch ?
@@scottmain3900 i dont have moral!
@@joex *morale 😂
@@scottmain3900
If a knife makes it to the iron rod before breaking, it's above average. If it makes it to where Joe's shooting it afterward, then that's the one for end of days 🔥
exactly!
This would be the same as taking a Cheap One Hundred Dollar rifle and a Ten thousand dollar sniper rifle. You could Abuse the sniper rifle by beating it against a steel pole and damaging it to where it could no longer fire. Do the same to the cheap rifle and it might take longer to damage the cheap rifle. Now take the same two rifles to the range without damage and the sniper rifle will be far more accurate and much easier to shoot. So just because the cheaper rifle took longer to damage by abusing it does that make it a better gun? No the accuracy of the rifle does. Same with the knives. When used for the intended applications the 3V steel will perform much better than the budget steels such as Aus 8. It comes down to using the right tool for the right job. That being said I still love your channel and find it very entertaining.
honestly i did not read the hole comment!"
This is where knife companies come to be witnessed.
hopefully!!!!
Maybe for your next test on 3V steel take a cutting torch or plasma arc and cut the blade into little pieces so the all the haters can talk about how bad the steel performed. Most of them on here wouldn't even know any better. They would be like " I won't be buying that, I thought it was supposed to be some kind of indestructible supersteel. "
ok, cool!
CS could take a lesson from other companies and maybe utilize
fiberglass infusion in its handles.
Hammer forge its best blades too.
CS is doomed anyways!
Awesome videos. Great job!
testing recommendations...
martindale tapanga machete
Cold steel frontier bowie
thanks and no!
Imagine if you were to test the Gurka kukri in 3V from Cold Steel. The cheapest I've seen it sell for is 500 dollars on DLT Trading, and 612 on Knifecenter. GSM just keeps putting out these original models in what they see as better steel but I personally think it's a heat treatment problem.
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Я думаю, что проблема в самой компании GSM. Лучше найти старые модели, выпущенные оригиналами - чем гнаться за новыми «суперсталями», которые делают GSM Outdoor. К сожалению, легенды превратились в обычный американский маркетинг