What Kenyan Men Really Think
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2018
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In this episode we try to get real on what do men think?
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I like what Switch is doing ,as a young man I have learnt from the topic of discussion how I wish i could be invited to be part of the audience one day .
Michael oyier has a PhD in maturity
The first guy to contribute from the audience is dope!!
Phyllis mugambi funny enough he has a series of failed marriage.... Someone verify this 😁
Masinde deserved to be on the panel
He's giving wisdom
No marriage can work if the man don’t hv wisdom
wow. i always love Michaels passion. this is the second time i have heard his talks. big up.
i love the show....
Let me educate you all. Women submit to love. Love her, worship even the things that she feels awful about like her menstrual flow, or her stretchmarks, goddamn it love her morning breath, love her fears, let her know you'll protect her when things go south , let her know you love the ugly face she makes when she cries. Love her silly kinky hair that won't grow no matter how many eggs & avocadoes she applies on her scalp. Hell ! apply the egg mix on her scalp yourself kwani iko nini. Tell her you love the lingerie she puts on for you. If she got tiny titties , let her know they drive you crazy just as they are and you wouldn't have it any other way.Let her know she can fart in peace , that she can leave the toilet door open when she is doing her thang! Make it your mission to take every damn insecurity and paint them in silver. Then sit and watch your girl burn bright like a comet. ... watch her period cramps magically disappear, watch her recurrent infections disappear like they were never there. see how she takes the world by storm. if she is an English teacher, she will teach till the roof speaks in Fluent English. Don't play with women whose full potential has been unlocked. She will become the perfect woman for you no matter how progressive, how woke, how educated she is. If you come home one day and say you're going to Jupiter, she'll pack two suitcases and say '' when are we leaving'' .... really, if the above never comes to your mind when you are with her, please don't marry her, don't drag innocent children into a family of half-baked love.
Well said Brenda
I did this to a my girl... After she 'got there'... She started to disregard me.. And I took a break from the relationship.
It's just sad...
@@franciswarutumo642 you do know i am single, right? 😁😁.. but hey, on a serious note, i think your girl has an ice cube for a heart
Ivy Brenda Cherotich you are funny.. I like that 😂😂😂
Truth of the matter, I know countless men who do this (have done this) for their women and ended up being disregarded and at worst, treated like dirt. It's no longer a point to ask women what they want because they will say one thing, and act differently altogether. I've been a heartless, cold and 'bad' guy to a lady and for the length of time I was that man (years), she treated me like a king, literally. Shed complain about it, but always came back. Then I started treating her right, straight and good with flowers and chocolate, and for the first few months, it was cool. Then suddenly she started acting up all crazy and cold. In my thinking, most millennial women just want validation. After she got my validation, I was no longer man enough and so she had the reason not to be the women she had been. I feel what @Francis warutumo
is saying. Women will say they want a good man who treats them like a princess, get get him, and treat him like shit. I dont know, maybe you Ivy Brenda Cherotich
are an exeption.
The bible says, love your wife as christ loves the church. That means wife submission comes after love. Make her the queen then automatic your the king.
Exactly Katini
Not all men have wisdom, wisdom is not a patriarchal thing, so when you follow the man's word as the final, utaumia my fren
Yeees! Men do not have monopoly over wisdom..thank you!
Mimmoh Young Njoroge very true if a man who lacks wisdom dictates his word as final and as the woman you blindly follow do not expect a good outcome.
Then get a husband who has wisdom..ukiolewa na mwenye hana pambana na hali yako! But men have the final say..no bad blood though😂😂
That’s why men pursue us it’s up to us to decide which man you’re willing to join with. We need wisdom pia to choose right 😂
Bravo Mike Oyier, I like your perspectives.
My 2cents opinion on the issue of marriage:
Women marry 'lifestyle' rather than the man (a entity). Men marry a 'body' rather than a character/personality (a woman).
There are many similarities between the love of Christ to his bride (the church), or a people.
This matrix exudes so many parallels between female nature and the way women behaves towards men, on one hand, and the way Men behaves towards God.
Men (the populace, a people), only need God when it's convenient for them, ( when they have a pressing need, loneliness, sorrowful, or in a life threatening scenario to say the least). In this case, its all about what God can provide, to better our situation. Is that really love for God?
Even with realization that Christ died, became a curse for us, to be saved, its still not enough to submit, to reverence, we still accuse God of not loving us enough.
We only love God because we want a good fulfilling life, prosperity and excellence. We always want a spiritual father figure to fix things for us and be at our call and beck. Not minding what God wants of us first, before He can bless us. ' seek ye the kingdom of God, then everything will be........'. So do we truly love God? No.
There so many comparisons of this in the way women are unable to selflessly love men in reciprocity to the way Men love and provide for women. Despite the fact that men take risks, put their lives at stake in some instances for women.
The bible exhorts men (husbands) to love women (wives), as Christ loves his bride (the church). The holy writ says men are the head and women, the body, just as Christ is the head and the man, the body.
I thought this is an issue to ponder.
The man with a Cape answered well,submission is a result of love,
Thanks Tamima for this episode. Just started following you on youTube. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Great guys and their contributions.
Amazing show. ..Mike is so handsome and his voice is wow
Looking forward for the ladies edition too.. Very interesting indeed... I like what Dyan said " marry your bestfriend"
lots Respects 4 yu Mr Oyier!.. good discussion.
Chris Kuria.....I love yur old school matureness too. ...
mwakideu sounds like Gaddaffi! a dictator ! his word is final.
Chris Kirui not Kuria.
Kenya men love brothels..
ISSUES is new word in kenya.
He is Chris Kirwa not Kirui or Kuria
😃😃😃😁😁😁😆😆
Dayan Masinde had good points. Dude in the cap is so hell bent on beating his chest that he's the head/leader 🙄. Sir you cannot demand respect. It's so funny how we use culture and scripture only when it's convenient or strengthens our opinion. Ya'll can keep them, I'm good.
That's my admin I do love the couple Dayan n Okelo
The guy in the cap is just ridiculous!
Here's what would work for uninformed unwise men: Know who you are before pursuing a relationship. If you want a good woman, be a good man!
Dyan Masinde is goals for a husband. He's Godly, deep and mature. This I love!
This show is Amazing 👌
Mob love TAMIMA
i looooove the fact that the Bible is a point of reference in this discussion
Absolutely and Worth it!
They have NO COMMANDMENTS...
Mike I well composed and articulate in passing his point across kudos plus that voice damn
Michael Oyier i wish all men were thinking like you do and wise like you are,.. You just amaze me.
just stambled on this and my ooh my i love the discussion, understanding the male perceptions towards women and love and marriage...great work Tamima. Dayan Masinde may the Holy spirit fill you to inspire more men out there...you speak alot of sense . Too much sense
Michael Oyier's voice is killing me yawa. Atim nang'o joka nam😍🤣?
Nyarwa many Michael onywomi .....
ayie kodi...duol no ler ya jowa...
Kasto his eyes........oh my!!!!
Kasto en handsome,jo ka dhowa are well represented,am proud of him
Michael Oyier is a gentleman. Could listen to him all day.
Mwakideu..i think his name is, should realise that most of our mums stayed cos they didnt have choices...more specifically, the financial wherewithal to leave bad marriages. And he should also know that not everyone is necessarily religious. He seems to be very close-minded..
It's the experience our mums went through that makes us ruuuunnnn.why? Coz even with all her perseverance all she reaped was a heart ache and some diseases as results of stress,depression,high blood pressure.
@@shreelanka9370 true true
Tamima ur shows are the best .
Sherry shazala I love it but it hurts me most times when I can’t understand the language 😩
@@sexybrets How comes u don't understand English ???
Tamima I would love to also hear what Kenyan women really think..... I appreciate that no matter the heated up conversation here among our men, they all have a point. I love the fact that they bring up the social media thing plus they base their ideas from a spiritual perspective.
Michael Oyler, awesome. I am a therapist expert in men’s issues. Your points are wonderful
Interesting talk. Lets have more and more of these talks.
Almighty Father,could you please elevate Dayan so that he speaks life to our men in this country,even as you are grooming me to do the same with ladies,please,please Holy spirit. I know you have the power.Amen.
great talk really appreciate the show
Michael Oyier is very mature for that panel...wuoye?! He is sitting with all these skewed crew
And the way he is talking ...wooooooi..lovely
I agree
Malika Kenya true. Smart. Composed. Mature.
His rusungu, mayooo
Malika Kenya he is a gent.
Waiting for my Dayan Masinde! I mean the man with great knowledge& respect for women.
👏👏👏👏👏👏😁i'm usually impressed by his advice..also burale
This couselor is on point.
THEY ARE ALL SELFISH THINGS WITH THEIR CRIES FOR RESPECT BUT NO TIME TO REALLY KNOW WHAT A WOMAN NEEDS
margaret macharia true
We need more men Like Dayan, the guy in the cap anakiburi Sana.
The guy with the cap is too chauvinistic... he rules by his chest.. too manipulative and arrogant...
Its a Pwani mentality. Just exactly how they're brought up there. Its only recently a Coast woman started to get educated, thus work. Bf they were stay at home, cook for yr husband, look beatiful when he comes from work na kumpokea bwana!!
@@rosewambui8026, radio presenter, Co partner with jarang'o
no...he is bieng sincere.
He is ALL MOUTH.
We coastrian's it's not our fault, it's our traditional rules are a faoveurs man than women
Mike oyier♥♥♥
A man should first realize he is a man before a woman realizes he is a man. No wonder based on the myopic backward primitive and oppressive viewpoints of this male panel woman are not serious in relationships. I would hate my daughter to marry any one of these men. Except the reasonable person in the audience. Respect is earned by loving your woman. It is not a right but a result of your effort men! We women also see men as peacocks and we want to be with a peacock not with a crow like these men. I feel so violated by these men's attitudes no wonder men are killing themselves over the lack of love from their women. If this is the bullying and unromantic manner in which they treat their women.
They're not moral models for boychild to learn!
Maureen. Listening is really important. Listen to these men for learning purposes. You may learn something instead of criticizing.
If these were the only men in a desert I would rather have the Camel 😂😂😂😂
Rose Wambui boy child is an oxymoron who what's one except if they are your child?
Marjorie Rushie I'd rather have the sand too! These are emasculated men
That man with the cap doeskin know the meaning of submission at all. He thinks it means its the man to have a job, and the woman to sty in the house. Nope. Read Proverbs 31. That righteous woman bought and sold land, was a business lady with several workers and servants under her care.
Watching from Oman, very very good topic and real issues displayed,am a new subscriber. I also think you should bring a panel where younger men with older women, something that's happening and so many people needs help.
Michael's mature talk and voice
To all those praising the well spoken Mike, please remember He is NOT a married man. And until one gets married, it's not possible to know what happens in committed relationships!!
But he looks like a good guy
True he has been in failed marriage
@@lucysaho5530 I need his number😁😁
very true
@@agneswanjiku6673 😂😂😂I love your spirit
@@agneswanjiku6673😂😂😂😂
Counsellor Dayan Masinde. ..you are the best . Right from this to relationship deal breakers. Am just in love with your counsel. I just wish i will have to meet you some day in my life. Good job.😍😍
Uhh this made me feel some type of way. I wonder if I can even articulate my thoughts 😬why is it women have to submit first so that they can love them.
As much as women are not equal to men (and not in the way some might think) love and relationships are are about lifting each other up and complementing each other. Where one is weak the other one is strong. It is not about who has more authority than the other.
The counselor is speaking life! Some of the comments from the guest speakers 🧐 and when someone quotes the Bible they need to quote the whole context not just the bit they like or works in their favor.
Counselor, speak LIFE you’re educating our people!
Well said.
You know l find it frustrating that this older guys keep on saying back in the day our mothers,do they also know that those mothers stayed because of the community around her not because of love or happiness .and the younger guys are speaking more Biblically sound than the older guys.
This z wonderful talk, wishing my man was attending it too
The head of the house is not the man, it is the husband.
Biblically, the head of the house of an unmarried lady is her father. When she is married, it is her husband.
Boyfriends and all types of prospects are not recognised neither do they have any righta to the lady as the head as Mwakideu is trying to say.
God loved the church first and the church is learning/learnt how to submit after. It should be the same with men and women respectively.
The reversal of roles has led to the current society where men are not respected nor trusted and women are not loved nor cherished.
Great I formative show Tamima big up girl and dauhgter of Zion
There is nothing wrong with conflict! Shocked? YES! Conflict is inevitable because two people have come together from two different worlds. What is wrong is unhealthy ways of dealing with conflict, eg. using submission to stifle your spouse's ability to offer input. This might also come as a shock to you, but the woman is a helper. That means you NEED help. Anyone who needs help is undoubtedly NOT self sufficient, in every sense of the word and every form of his being. That means help is not just in cooking and keeping everything clean. It includes THINKING AND DECISION MAKING.
Mwakideu air quotes on a good woman ?
🤔
Wow David👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼, never have I ever heard a man, describe a woman so passionately. Wisdom
Oyier so awesome.
mwakideu nlijua tu kizungu itakua balaa.....a very good radio presenter
its very true submitting is biblical,sometimes its hard to submit but its way to go
" man's word is final" what! as a man let me say this... That sounds like dictatorship not a marriage- i think that a man's words has some weight, it gives direction especially in dires situations but Final? come on! tell me that in an uncivilised world! press a pause button and leave that studio asap! Do you know how good it is to be with the woman that you love in one accord? how rewarding it is to communicate with each other like members one band trying to make a fine sound! it might feel on the surface like it empties the power of you ,but trust me, it earns you more respect in that house as Man! Well you can be the head of the house by default, but respect is earned! Thumbs up to#Oyier,Kirwa.
I agreed with you .man word is final.it kind if dictatorship woman olso need to be given a chance to make decisions because may that final word doesn't make sense
@@winniemaina8990 yes please because that chance a woman is given can bring success and achivement of what is being solved
Stafford Nelson very cringe. That is how every dominant culture tries to justify power and dominance over others.
Michael Oyier... Too much wisdom and eloquence
Love love this show
.. keep it up Tamima, great work
Michael is a wise man..eloquent,knowledgeable.
Great discussion, nice show 👌👌👂👂👂👏👏👏
The counselor you are on point,,
First tym to see Mike oyier after listening to him on radio for over 20yrs😜
Oooo God I love mike oyier.😘❤️
How many women have submitted and still been not loved
Hope you are not talking abt the women from rural areas here, who just get married because the bible says so hoping that they will get rewarded by going to heaven. Men want submission from strong women, alpha women, sexy and sassy women.women who do not waste their prime years riding the cock couresal.
A good example of such a marriage is that of wayde van niekerk(the 400m world record holder) and chesney van niekerk who is a lecturer in one of the most precious universities in south africa. Chesney did not spent her youth sleeping around with jerks like most of the kenyan women do and expect to have a beautiful marriage in their 30s after hitting the wall lol.as a matter of fact she is only 26years
@@bednarekbaloyes yea if you want submission you give it first. what you GIVE is what you GET. If you want respect be respectful. Period!
@@bednarekbaloyes and I think it's ignorant of you to make such assumptions about rural women. Just because someone grew up in a village or rural setting doesn't mean they are 'backward' so to speak. Many urban people are very ignorant and backward
Myself and finally I'm left
True very true
A great lesson to me actually.
all presenters/interviewers, kwanza chipukizi, should learn from TAMIMA. she is so composed and very mature
Conrad Oronyi I know huh? I love her composure and patience.
The counselor in the audience with the stripped shirt apewe soda on me. Very mature point of view. God bless you.
Yes Masinde.. Men need to open up. We as women feel bad when a man don't talk out about his issues
The problem is if we open up, you women view us as weak objects that's why we rarely open up.
I love this Counselor
Helen nganga he is always dope
I love this show very much ... tamima yu look beatiful ..... dyan ad Robert bulale are the best
great work Tamima
WIG
Mwakideu on spot tell them as it is, women want equality but not the responsibilities that comes with it...
What's wrong with teamwork? Respecting each other by working together instead of the man presenting as..."I am the leader or head of the household so I willl have the final say."
I will say this and leave it here, we are in different era. May be some of these men need to know the definition of love. We are all adults and respect comes both ways. If you love someone, you would want to protect, provide and nurture
Loved the forum. I wish there were women in..
A woman submits to a man's leadership, not the man himself. People should get thag point straight
You can only submit to love... Husbands love your wives.. Women submit to your husband...
Guys, you need to work on the hisses, that's an easy thing to remove via Adobe Audition. Select a small section of the hiss, CTRL + P then ctrl + a then ctrl + shift + p and the problem is solved with some few twicking the audio is clean.
I wish i knew all these.. I have lost good relationships simply because...
It's never too late.. Like Miss Maya Angelou said, When you know better, do better.
Men have to take care of their responsibilities as the head of the home. Then the respect will come. I can’t pay the rent but the food pay school fees and you still want me to respect and submit. It just will not work.
Then stay alone coz you don't know if your man may run out of money for a time
Mwakideu should have read Ephesians 21 before the rest that he read. He is so focused on winning the conversation rather than winning the soul. He has some work to do with his understanding on what a christian marriage/relationship expects. John15:13 . Christ is the head of the church yet lays his life for the church.
Girl take a soda on me. We forget to often that he who wants to be greatest.has to serve the most
@@emmahowokochronicles5764 the question is are there women to die for,,non of this social media bimbos is worth it.
@@lawrenceochieng7206 tihihi,true
@@lawrenceochieng7206 the society is rotten so that is why you pray for your eyes to be opened to the right person. You will know them by their fruits.
Mwakideu amefuzwa ujinga kabisa na mzee jalas, that's dictatorship not leadership quality
There is nothing like an expert when it comes to marriage /love. I laugh when I see people going for this guys for counselling. I would never do that, do u even know how there relationship is.,watu bwana wacheni mchezo
I love this...no one is an expert in matters love or marriage
Oooh man!! How Mwakideu represents most African men! Wooooi!!
Michael Oyier🙌🙌🙌
Mwakideu is in his own world 🤣🤣
AFIA NZELE Totally!
The guy in the cap 😂 so unapologetically himself ... Kichwa tu
Sometimes it doesn't work marrying your best friend! It's sweet when you are best friends just like that but when you marry it doesn't work! Marriage is a calling more than just best friends. Some people date 3 months, come from different backgrounds and it works, some lol can have been dating yrs , same background, same tribe, can be country but the moment they put the rings it breaks. I believe God unite people for a purpose, pray to get your match. Can be just luck sometimes, or a puzzle 🤔🤔
Alex still in dictatorship error,Oyier 🙌 Chris,
Am happy there using the bible for reference ,and this are real men,
Big up mike
Am always on my own,,why should I respect a man who does not respect me?why should I be committed to a man who does not want to be committed to me??why should I submit 😂lemme just work for me,,singleness is a gift to some of us women!!
Sometimes it's better to be single
Coz wewe ni kichwa ngumu
@@254uncensored 😂😂😂😂
Why are you in that kind of relationship in the first place?
Wow wow that's true
uui! the lies some of these men wanasema aki. ati if a woman submits the man will love her hehe.... its a lie some men use the submission to have their cake and eat it
Nelly Macharia some command respect when they don’t give any and nor are they loving. They assume loving is paying fees, providing a home, making sure they are fed(which is good) But how about the emotional intimacy?
Meanwhile the women are told ndoa nikuvumilia. How many times have you heard women told to vumilia?
@@kenyafinest964 truth kwanza hiyo story ya kuvumilia annoys me to no end
Nelly Macharia taimagine all the time nikuambiwa vumilia. It’s quite irritating. It’s up to us women to decide what we shall accept. Remember you teach people how to treat you.
Just because you been going out with the wrong men doesn't mean we all bad???leave them wife beaters alone
Tamima aki leo wanaume si wana clap sana aki;i want to challenge them here that what a man can do a woman can do it better,why am i saying this ;because am all alone caz i separated and because of the bitterness i do know who will confince me to love again,but i think Tamima you are my medicine caz of this show....👏👏👏following you keenly
Alex I salute you man
Oyier I like the way he talks anaongea na meno I love
There are good men out there but the bad men block them or the good men are too slow.
Jesus is God,he was super powerful.
He wept, he cried,he even sweat blood swile crying. Now he didn't become weak by that?
Stop using coke.
Da show was👌👌👂👂👏👏👏
Jesus..all these men clapping should be taken to 1950. They would fit in. It is very sad that we have to preach submission to a woman. Men who respect themselves will definately be respected.They wont have to ask for it. Men who lead their lives wisely will get a wise woman..Its truly sad what men in Kenya have totally turned into
Oh my,i pity mwakideo's wife....whaaat his words are final
Snakey men in kenya.
Cannot change a LIGHT BULB.
sasa wewe...how does a sample of 4-10 men in this show represent the behaviour of millions of men in this country.?
POLYGAMY NATION.
Kitilai lee they have turned into their fathers. And for those who had no fathers present are navigating best how they know with a hint of influence from the men that they looked up to.