Wait, if they all get the same face in Sims 3, does that mean that there's a secret sex dungeon where 2 random townies are forced to try for baby so they can feed the orphanage system?
Imagine if the stakes were this high in real life lol. "Mum, I got an F in my Science exam..." "Well, it was nice having a child while it lasted. Goodbye forever!"
The stakes are that high in real life.. if someone is diagnosed with autism and they bump into someone in public they get sent to the psych ward for not being perfect :)
I literally JUST discovered about the being able to romance biological relatives thing. I had Beau broke be taken away, he was adopted by the Oldies and remained friends with Brandi. But Brandi got electrocuted and died. When Beau got back from college, he was able to resurrect Brandi, who became a zombie and IMMEDIATELY after coming to life, STARTED FLIRTING WITH HER OWN SON. They fell in love, it was disturbing. I killed her again
In mine both Beau and Dustin broke are gay, they both have sweet, loving partners and have moved from that tiny trailerish house to a mansion and adopted lots of kids 🤣
I really dislike the fact that the kids can't remember anything about their original family. Like at the very least couldn't they have made it so the old family and memories are all in grey or transparent or something? I don't even want to adopt those children if they are taken away and rather adopt them to some random sim and kill them off and just play it off as "On the way to the orphanage the social worker had a car-accident and the children died"
it's kinda ironic since in the sims 2 they have memories, i'm pretty sure even as toddlers they can make specific memories with specific people like their parents lol
You can use the tombstone of L/D to add the child into a different household. Unfortunately the adoptive parents won't get the adoption memory or be recognised as parents, but the child will have all the memories from their bio family and be in their family tree. Also the bio family will remember having their child being taken away. It isn't really like a adoption, more like a foster family. It can be a lot of fun.
It would be sooooo good if the sims recognised more familial relationships. I don't even want second cousins doing it, let alone someone banging their Great-Grandma. Ew.
@@slushpuppie19 In Sims 3 the game do recognise Great-Grandparents (though AFAIK nothing beyond that), as well as In-Laws and Step-Siblings, Step-Children, Step-Parents and Half-Siblings, but do not recognise Grand-Aunt/Uncle and Grand-Niece/Nephew relationships, which, interestingly, is a relationship Sims 2 did recognise, so, while there were step up in Sims 3, there still were step down too.
Something that bugged me a lot was that adopted children that have been taken away from a neighbour don't retain their memories. I made a family with the sole idea of having a couple of kids grow up in a horrible family (cheating, divorce, growing up bad and eventually getting taken by the social worker) and then get adopted by a loving family. But they didn't remember!
You think that stuff was disturbing here's one thing I accidentally had happen: In one family I had a girl be taking away by the social workers(not intentionally), because she had bad grades. I then adopted her to a different family. Fast forward to her becoming an adult and I ended up putting her into a relationship with her biological dad. I first realized that after I had already done it and saved saId relationship.
This one time when I was a kid, I was playing the sims 2 and had a couple who had a baby. One day when they went to work I hired a nanny to take care of the baby, who was now a toddler. Once the parents got home i dismissed the nanny, since i didnt need her anymore, and all of the sudden as she was leaving she took my toddler! The toddler disappeared from the family tree too. Has this haver happened to you guys, cause I still think about it to this day
It happened to me a long time ago. Since that moment I always keep watching what the nanny was doing and never let her carry the toddler, because I was always afraid it could happen again 😂
I remember that Romeo Monty's grandpa stole my baby when I was a new player :3 I switched to their house and baby wasn't there. Since it doesn't happen again (and happened loooooong time ago) I always thought that I was dreaming but now I think it was real lol
7:50 I know what you mean. When I first played the Sims 2, three generations of my family had the same friend they would bring home from school. So glad they added the ability to age up townies later on.
I know, right? Takes away your child for failing in school. Brings you a baby just sitting in the back seat, no car seat or seatbelt. Way to go, social worker!
I use to make a family of Toddlers and move them in a family with a mom. I then turned the Mom into a toddler and bam... The social worker would come and I had cute ones to adopt. Sims 2 of course.
Omg I didn't know this about adopted babies! This is awesome! Another fun fact: I experimented to see if the game would let my sims adopt a plantsim toddler, and apparently that won't work! There were no other toddlers in the pool that had been taken from a family, and a random one was generated. I was disappointed, to say the least.
I created orphans in the SIMS 2. I had a couple have twins. A boy and girl. Sadly the couple died leaving their babies. Social worker comes and gets them. Later I had a couple adopt one of the babies and then another couple adopted the other. As the kids grew up they became friends and then lovers they got married and had kids. I found that very strange that they were siblings but once the social worker takes them away they lose the sibling status unless they got adopted by the same parents. The SIMS 2 games were strange in that aspect.
I remember i had a kid taken away once, and later (i think i was playing with a different household) my new kid wanted to bring a friend home, and guess who the friend was.
I never realized that the social worker of The Sims 2 were so rigid. I feel lucky that the services have never taken away any children from me, generally in The Sims I am a pretty reckless parent 😂😂😂
Your videos are the proof that no matter how much we play this game, there's always something new to find out about. That's why I love your videos so much!
I also noticed that there's a short loading screen beforing adopting a baby that doesn't appear with the toddler or child adoption. So the game literally needs time to process the whole 'making a kid from two random townies'!
Wooooah WHAT?! :o I had NO IDEA about the 'generated from Townies' thing!! I'm heading off to watch your video on baby adoptions now :) Thank you so much for your vids Marta! As a die-hard Sims 2 fan, I learn something new every time!! 😍You're just fabulous
Some more that I know of: -Kids only end up in the 'adoption pool' if neither of the parents (and/or no-one in the household) have a Family aspiration. I believe this is because something like the aspiration benefits from Freetime were intended to be in the base game, with Family parents able to call and plead for their child to be returned to them at any time. -You can fill up the adoption pool with multiple kids and they will all get preference for adoption, from latest to oldest. They don't get erased by others being taken from home. -If you screw up the order and want a kid that's somewhere in the middle of the pool, have a dummy family adopt until that point, adopt the preferred child with the real family, then let the dummy family's kids be taken. The kids will have no memory of this mishap. -Kids in the adoption pool become unplayable, uninvitable and uncontactable unless you add them to a household using Tombstone of L and D. -You can create a functioning orphanage by adding the kids to a household as explained above. If adopted they will upon the next load no longer be in the orphanage, and upon the next save disappear from the orphanage household portrait. -If you age anyone older than Teen down to a child, they will have an F report card and be taken away by the social worker almost immediately. If you age a teen down to a child, they will retain their report card value, so mind that they're not failing. -If you want kids to retain their memories when adopted, you can do a fake adoption with Tombstone of L and D. I believe the only things that non-relatives can't do but relatives can, other than the family kiss, is to teach toddler skills, to help with homework, and to give teens permission to Go Out. Very helful when you want siblings to retain strong ties, or have a kid resistant to the love of their new family due to negative mempries with the old family.
First time I adopted a sim on the sims 2 (base game no expansions or mods), the kid had some sort of bug on her face that looked like she had a cleft lip (or maybe it wasn't a bug, just weird lip genetics). It made me real sad because my 13yo self tought that her parents abandoned her due to the malformation. Adopted hundreds of kids after that one, but it never appeared again.
@@dundee6402 it wouldn’t have to! It should honestly just work like transferring sims between households or moving them out. But I get how it would take a lot of effort to code that in just to fix a situation that probably happens very rarely
I tend to "seed" the adoption pool by making seven toddlers and one adult, then killing off the adult and let the kids get taken away. This way if a family in my game adopt a toddler I know what they're getting. Also, last one in is first one out. That's why a child that's taken away from a family will be the first one available for adoption. Always. I have never adopted a baby before but someone may have to at some point now so I can see how the mixing of the genes go since some Sims 2 sims have questionable genes. Great video I always love these.
I just played Sims 2 and my Sim (who is a single dad) had to go to work, so I called a babysitter. She arrived, my Sim drove off to work, then the babysitter just disappeared and his daughter got taken away because she was left alone... That kinda sucked, especially because I hadn't saved in a while. I had her adopted by a neighbour though, so yeah. It was interesting for the story, but still, it kinda ruined what I originally had in mind for that family.
Oh my god I usually don't play with adoption, but I'm really excited to start adopting babies to add some additional variety into my playable stock. Of course townies may get married in eventually anyways, but when I batch-create custom townies using the old PeggySims way of randomizing in BodyShop, I end up with really interesting Sims that I don't want to marry into my families right away because they're such a bother to create so I want to see them wandering around for a while before doing another set, but I'm always so excited to start getting their genes into my playables family trees. This is brilliant.
I remember when i was about 9 i made a family and the parents worked so the kids were alone and they got taken away and then I started crying Eventually I made the dad "divorce" the mom and then she started eating, became fat and died because of flies. (Didnt clean the plates)
i love these sorts of videos! i never wouldve known any of the genetics or adoption trivia if it wasnt for you so thank you!! (also been binge watching your legacy challenge lately and loving it. keep it up!)
All right, my favorite messed up family story. Grandma’s kid goes to college. For whatever reason I cheat and de-age grandma. Grandma gets taken by social services. Grandma’s grandson adopts her. For whatever reason, her portrait stays in the family tree which now loops forever.
This is amazing! So if I create my own empty neighborhood and create my own townies, when I adopt a baby will it be a mix of the two townies that I have created? OMG. The possibilities!
What I'd really like in a Sims game is if there was a distinction between adoptive family and biological family on the family trees. Like the lines could be different colors and/or there's a button to switch from one to the other. That would also prevent the incest thing.
thats SO interesting with infants :o i remember nina caliente adopted an infant girl who grew up to be so incredibly cute and i couldnt for the life of me determine what default face template she had. this video definitely solved years long mystery for me :)
The townie parent thing also exists in sims 3 in some way. I was randomly creating wizarding offspring in Dragon Valley threw master Controller , there were a lot on familiar faces.
that was soo interesting! I never thought about this 0_0 this game is a little twisted. thank you for making this, make me think deeper about the adoption option that I took for granted.
I wish I had evidence of this. When I first started playing the Sims 2 I was messing around with a test family. I was randomly demolishing squares in the house, so there were pieces of foundation missing and stairs destroyed. The social worker could not find a way in, so she wandered around for a few seconds, then turned around to go back to her car. When she reached the car the game crashed. I was surprised, because I later learned that she's supposed to just magically teleport to get the child.
I love that the adopted baby is a mix of to townies! Kind off realistic I guess, and just generally funny considering how the creators of sims could just (?) have made a face template applying to babies as well. Great video!
Omg, I was experimenting with this too. I made my Sim marry his biologycal sister and have kids. You can make them marry and make out with their own parents aswell!! But the parents Sims do have memories of them tho. Weird.
I once made a rich family whose newborn got taken away for story purposes. I continued playing with the bio-parent until she died. I forgot about this newborn and adopted a baby into a different family, thinking i'd get a townie mix. As soon as he arrived on the lot, he had the inheritance memory as he had interherited money from his deceased bio mom, being technically her last living relative. He didn't add extra funds to the family household tho, unfortunately. His bio mom also owned a huge vacation home, but the deed got transferred to a random neighbour.
Your videos are so informative and I love them! I actually loaded a save file I found from 2007 and SPECIFICALLY looked for First Born Syndrome. And bam! Same exact personality and face. Also... I had two family sims married... innocent but rookie mistake for boring gameplay lol
Regana Cappuletti`s first child was already a teenager, and I decided to make her a new one. I saved the game, and exited to the map, came into cas, and was triying to remember how many times I generated a new sim previous time. Iknewonlyhat that number was not 0. I thought for a while about exiteing, without new actions (to avoid useing the same number for shure) But I din`t, and generated 5 more new sims. Yes, Igot the same child borned
One more proof that adopted babies are created from townies: when you use face defaults and adopt toddlers or children, they'll be generated with new pretty face templates. But babies will have original maxis face features from pre-made townies, at least until enough new townies are spawned.
How different is Sims 3 from 2 in this regard? I did a little experiment once (in 3) where I had the parent die and the kid taken away, then tried to have another family adopt her. It didn't work, as she never appeared in the adoption window, yet she was still in the town with some kind of... hmm, townie foster family or something, where I assume all townie children 'live'.
It's weird there. The parents are still connected to the kids via family tree and can invite them (if they're not babies/toddlers), so if you type testingcheats, you can just add the child back to the family xD But I don't think they can be re-adopted :O
@@Marticore A shame, as that mucks up a story-line a bit but, oh well! It's not cheating, it's storytelling, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Ta for the reply.
I love your videos. I've always wanted someone to talk about The Sims from a technical point of view and to analyze the way the game behaves internally.
@@Marticore yeah I know why they made it only for babies, but I think this system would be cool for other age groups too (even if they are in CAS). It would be more interesting if every adopted children were result of mixing townies' genes, than just random face template from CAS.
I just started again to play the sims 2 (going back from the sims 3) and I must say : I haven't had that much fun in years with the sims.... Thank you for your video, super interesting and I like your voice too !
I was playing today and decided to adopt, but I didn't know the Random Townie fact and now I'm beating my head on a wall 😞. Thanks for this awesome Video good work 👍
Hi! I just started getting really into the sims 2 lately and love your technical videos. Can you talk about ms.crumplebottom and why the devs made her an object not a sim even though it can corrupt the game? And is it possible to convert her into a sim without breaking the game or was her being an object decided early in development
Actually I had the Ottomas grandma take a few of the kids with her and move out, they got taken away and then the parents could adopt them back so it's not technically the parents. (Also some visuals were implying that teens could get taken away and well that's not accurate since they can't get adopted back either)
I've been playing this game since release and I had no idea that Townies were the parents of the adopted babies! I rarely adopt when I play, but I think I'm going to do it more often now. Thanks! :D
I didn't know about the kids being generated from random townies, wow! i have an adopted toddler with really peculiar ice blue eyes ... i'm gonna go look for her "biological" parents around town just for fun! thanks!
I had no idea about the townie parents for adopted babies. What happens with their genetics? To use your example of Komei and Marisa, would a baby get a gene for her blonde hair and his red hair or would the genes just double up, like with a CAS Sim? Hope that made sense!
It's very possible that townies are homozygous, if that's what you're refering to. But it doesn't concern Komei and Marisa that much, as only Marisa has a dominant eye color, other than that all their genes are non-dominant! :D
the furthest i've ever webt with this "sibling romance thanks to adoption" thing is having two cousins get together but they had 3 bolts of chemistry so i forgave myself, lol
In my game Jennifer and John Burb’s third child was taken away because of bad grades. But thanks to this video I was able to get Lucy and Dustin broke (who have just come back from university and engaged) to adopt him. It’s weird because she’s technically now his adopted mother and his biological sister but I think its was kinda cute he’s still in the family.
The season thing really upset me she was just building a snowpal with her friend. Then boom the social worker came and took her. She was about to come in and warm up next to the fireplace.
I wonder, do adopted sims retain their recessive genes from their bio parents or are they treated like they’re fresh from create a sim? I would assume they’d keep it kinda like how the adopted babies have the genes from their townie parents without being related.
Reason #2 why kids can get taken away is no joke. I was family with the Newson family in Sims 2 (it starts with 2 teens, 2 children, & 2 toddlers) and was doing well. The toddlers aged up and everything was great, then I got a notification that one of the boy children was overheating. I clicked on him to see that he was jumping on the bed in his pjs. Then I heard the dreaded jingle and four of my six family members disappeared from my sims selection. I rage quit and went back to a previous save.
When i was a kid, i was playing with my original household's grown up children, and i've never played again with the parents so the childrend got older than their parents. That's why i prefer SIms3
Can townies in different sub neighborhoods be the genetic donors? For example, if have a main neighbourhood with no townies but add downtown with the the downtownies will the game be able to generate a baby or will you get an error message?
I wish the adoption or even creation of new sims was done like the baby one, especially that we see it's already being used. Instead of getting a sim with template face just mix genes of two townies, make a baby and immediately grow them up to whatever age is needed >.< Maybe someone could make a mod for this...
1:49 also if you woohoo in front of them, I think. Once when I was like 10 I tried to make a really sad story and made the parents woohoo and made her get into the room and I closed the door (I don't know what was going through my mind, I had something wrong xD), and the child got taken away.
In sims 2 I once had a nice family 3 children and the parents. One of the kids got taken away which spiralled into the divorce of the parents. Then the mum remarried and her new man adopted the kid back lol
there was a glitch where my child sim got stuck in the floor, and the social worker couldn't reach her, so the social worker would just signal me every 5 secs telling me she can't reach her.
This is how I was able to breed lots if pure blooded aliens from strange town, the smith alien dad has two daughters, I used to have the. Have kids and lose them and he will breed with them if they were female and the daughters will breed if it's a boy. So mr Smith alien became his very in birth Queen, I mean Birth King
Now that I know how to use SimPE I resolved the adopted kid issue by having each child their family flag checked with their original family members in their relationships, so they won't have any attraction and be locked out of romantic interactions with them once they grow up.
This isn't related to adoption, but something weird happened to me recently while playing sims 2. Maybe it was a glitch, I don't know. I moved in the Capp family (the one with Antonio and his kids) into a lot and the kids turned into teenagers. When Benedick family kissed Beatrice, his sister, she got the "first kiss" memory. She could also flirt with him, make out with him and ask to go steady. On his part, he couldn't do any of those things, thankfully, but he was able to say yes to go steady. He rejected making out. Super weird since they are related! When they grew up and went to college, the game recognized them fully as siblings again, and no romantic options were available. Don't know if anyone else has had this issue?
The premade neighbourhoods in the sims 2 can be notoriously glitchy, especially Strangetown and Veronaville from what I know. If you were using the versions that came with the game and not any kind of fixed versions, then I'd just chalk that up to it being a glitch
that is what I was thinking to do in my game (because it`s written in simswiki, that they are named after two lovers), but gave up that idea, because it is two much. When I was lannistering sims in CadtawayStoryes, I had to change their relationships in simPe after their becomeing adults, not matter if I turned those siblings into lovers when they were teens, or not Incest change the viev of genealogical tree. When you look from grandparents, you see the same grandchiild two times (under dauuhter and under son). When you look from result of incest - one of parents dissapear. Form of connecting lines changes. Now it is figure, where three lines come from one point under 120 degrees. Smth like this | /\ I don`t know why
Sims gameplay idea. Adopt a baby, grow him up to an adult and then try to figure out which townies are his biological parents and make friends with them
I’m surprised and confused by the adoption ban for parents that had kids taken, because I remember specifically doing so, adopting a new kid right after mine got taken (for low grades) cause I didn’t want to deal.... I remember it because the adopted girl brought my original kid home from school, oops...
I'm not sure how babies are generated in Sims 4, but in Sims 3 all adopted kids get the same face, so...
They are randomized so you don't have clones
Yeah, but I meant babies specifically, since in TS4 you also can't make them in CAS :D
Wait, if they all get the same face in Sims 3, does that mean that there's a secret sex dungeon where 2 random townies are forced to try for baby so they can feed the orphanage system?
XDDD They just get the default pudding face, same as any generated townie :D
This isn’t related to the video, but what default eyes and skin do you use for the Sims 2?
Imagine if the stakes were this high in real life lol.
"Mum, I got an F in my Science exam..."
"Well, it was nice having a child while it lasted. Goodbye forever!"
_laughs in Asian kid_
The stakes are that high in real life.. if someone is diagnosed with autism and they bump into someone in public they get sent to the psych ward for not being perfect :)
@@celisalight2547 where did you even get that from what planet are you living on? That has never happened...ever
@@celisalight2547 I mean, I could see Autism Speaks pulling some bs like that, but I really don't know where you're getting this from...
at least it's not the sims 1. the kid saluting as they march to the military, never to be seen again 😭
I literally JUST discovered about the being able to romance biological relatives thing. I had Beau broke be taken away, he was adopted by the Oldies and remained friends with Brandi. But Brandi got electrocuted and died. When Beau got back from college, he was able to resurrect Brandi, who became a zombie and IMMEDIATELY after coming to life, STARTED FLIRTING WITH HER OWN SON. They fell in love, it was disturbing. I killed her again
Imagine someone who's never heard of Sims reading this 😂
LMAOOO I KILLER HER AGAIN BYE
“I killed her again” AHHAHAHA
😅🤣🤣😂😂😨😰😭😭😭😭
In mine both Beau and Dustin broke are gay, they both have sweet, loving partners and have moved from that tiny trailerish house to a mansion and adopted lots of kids 🤣
I really dislike the fact that the kids can't remember anything about their original family. Like at the very least couldn't they have made it so the old family and memories are all in grey or transparent or something? I don't even want to adopt those children if they are taken away and rather adopt them to some random sim and kill them off and just play it off as "On the way to the orphanage the social worker had a car-accident and the children died"
Agreed
They should remember!
They brainwash the child so they can’t sue the social worker afterwards duh...
it's kinda ironic since in the sims 2 they have memories, i'm pretty sure even as toddlers they can make specific memories with specific people like their parents lol
@@urgothgfp9039 oh yeah toddlers remember 'meeting' their parents/being taught by them
You can use the tombstone of L/D to add the child into a different household. Unfortunately the adoptive parents won't get the adoption memory or be recognised as parents, but the child will have all the memories from their bio family and be in their family tree. Also the bio family will remember having their child being taken away. It isn't really like a adoption, more like a foster family. It can be a lot of fun.
7:15 the game also doesn’t recognise great grandparents, so you can have great grandparents have kids with their great grandchildren
Yep xD Also, hi!
Was watching your video yesterday bro
The Sims 4 does the same too. I have an "immortal" Sim who has fathered children with every 4 generations of his descendants.
It would be sooooo good if the sims recognised more familial relationships. I don't even want second cousins doing it, let alone someone banging their Great-Grandma. Ew.
@@slushpuppie19 In Sims 3 the game do recognise Great-Grandparents (though AFAIK nothing beyond that), as well as In-Laws and Step-Siblings, Step-Children, Step-Parents and Half-Siblings, but do not recognise Grand-Aunt/Uncle and Grand-Niece/Nephew relationships, which, interestingly, is a relationship Sims 2 did recognise, so, while there were step up in Sims 3, there still were step down too.
Something that bugged me a lot was that adopted children that have been taken away from a neighbour don't retain their memories. I made a family with the sole idea of having a couple of kids grow up in a horrible family (cheating, divorce, growing up bad and eventually getting taken by the social worker) and then get adopted by a loving family. But they didn't remember!
Yep, I think their age resets too
You think that stuff was disturbing here's one thing I accidentally had happen:
In one family I had a girl be taking away by the social workers(not intentionally), because she had bad grades. I then adopted her to a different family. Fast forward to her becoming an adult and I ended up putting her into a relationship with her biological dad. I first realized that after I had already done it and saved saId relationship.
👀👄👀 OMG
ewww lmaooo
That is hilarious and icky at the same time. Ahhh!
That's... Almost the myth of Oedipus.
why does this sound like a law and order plot
I’ve played TS2 for thousands of hours and over 10 years and never knew this.. thank you!
This one time when I was a kid, I was playing the sims 2 and had a couple who had a baby. One day when they went to work I hired a nanny to take care of the baby, who was now a toddler. Once the parents got home i dismissed the nanny, since i didnt need her anymore, and all of the sudden as she was leaving she took my toddler! The toddler disappeared from the family tree too. Has this haver happened to you guys, cause I still think about it to this day
Never happened to me, but I heard about that!
It was an old bug, I remember, happened to me too.
It happened to me a long time ago. Since that moment I always keep watching what the nanny was doing and never let her carry the toddler, because I was always afraid it could happen again 😂
@@ialenh1731 yes, that's so true. We must always watching them on the finger what they'll gonna do next. XD
I remember that Romeo Monty's grandpa stole my baby when I was a new player :3 I switched to their house and baby wasn't there. Since it doesn't happen again (and happened loooooong time ago) I always thought that I was dreaming but now I think it was real lol
7:50 I know what you mean. When I first played the Sims 2, three generations of my family had the same friend they would bring home from school. So glad they added the ability to age up townies later on.
Oh my, that is creepy :'D
I loved that about sims 2! When I played sims 3 and my generations had different friends I was so worried the other ones died
That baby sitting in the car never fails to make me laugh! Great video as usual 🌻
I know, right? Takes away your child for failing in school. Brings you a baby just sitting in the back seat, no car seat or seatbelt. Way to go, social worker!
@@leslie2149 oh, this is so realistic
I use to make a family of Toddlers and move them in a family with a mom. I then turned the Mom into a toddler and bam... The social worker would come and I had cute ones to adopt. Sims 2 of course.
Omg I didn't know this about adopted babies! This is awesome!
Another fun fact: I experimented to see if the game would let my sims adopt a plantsim toddler, and apparently that won't work! There were no other toddlers in the pool that had been taken from a family, and a random one was generated. I was disappointed, to say the least.
Oh! :O
I created orphans in the SIMS 2.
I had a couple have twins. A boy and girl. Sadly the couple died leaving their babies. Social worker comes and gets them. Later I had a couple adopt one of the babies and then another couple adopted the other. As the kids grew up they became friends and then lovers they got married and had kids. I found that very strange that they were siblings but once the social worker takes them away they lose the sibling status unless they got adopted by the same parents. The SIMS 2 games were strange in that aspect.
My goodness the Sims 2. It's the best game in the world, but it's also creepy as hell 😂
I remember i had a kid taken away once, and later (i think i was playing with a different household) my new kid wanted to bring a friend home, and guess who the friend was.
I'm a simple woman. I see Marticore uploaded, I like the video.
I never realized that the social worker of The Sims 2 were so rigid. I feel lucky that the services have never taken away any children from me, generally in The Sims I am a pretty reckless parent 😂😂😂
Your videos are the proof that no matter how much we play this game, there's always something new to find out about. That's why I love your videos so much!
I also noticed that there's a short loading screen beforing adopting a baby that doesn't appear with the toddler or child adoption. So the game literally needs time to process the whole 'making a kid from two random townies'!
Yeah, the pop up is similar to the one at birth :D
Wooooah WHAT?! :o I had NO IDEA about the 'generated from Townies' thing!! I'm heading off to watch your video on baby adoptions now :)
Thank you so much for your vids Marta! As a die-hard Sims 2 fan, I learn something new every time!! 😍You're just fabulous
Some more that I know of:
-Kids only end up in the 'adoption pool' if neither of the parents (and/or no-one in the household) have a Family aspiration. I believe this is because something like the aspiration benefits from Freetime were intended to be in the base game, with Family parents able to call and plead for their child to be returned to them at any time.
-You can fill up the adoption pool with multiple kids and they will all get preference for adoption, from latest to oldest. They don't get erased by others being taken from home.
-If you screw up the order and want a kid that's somewhere in the middle of the pool, have a dummy family adopt until that point, adopt the preferred child with the real family, then let the dummy family's kids be taken. The kids will have no memory of this mishap.
-Kids in the adoption pool become unplayable, uninvitable and uncontactable unless you add them to a household using Tombstone of L and D.
-You can create a functioning orphanage by adding the kids to a household as explained above. If adopted they will upon the next load no longer be in the orphanage, and upon the next save disappear from the orphanage household portrait.
-If you age anyone older than Teen down to a child, they will have an F report card and be taken away by the social worker almost immediately. If you age a teen down to a child, they will retain their report card value, so mind that they're not failing.
-If you want kids to retain their memories when adopted, you can do a fake adoption with Tombstone of L and D. I believe the only things that non-relatives can't do but relatives can, other than the family kiss, is to teach toddler skills, to help with homework, and to give teens permission to Go Out. Very helful when you want siblings to retain strong ties, or have a kid resistant to the love of their new family due to negative mempries with the old family.
First time I adopted a sim on the sims 2 (base game no expansions or mods), the kid had some sort of bug on her face that looked like she had a cleft lip (or maybe it wasn't a bug, just weird lip genetics). It made me real sad because my 13yo self tought that her parents abandoned her due to the malformation.
Adopted hundreds of kids after that one, but it never appeared again.
I miss when the game would let you adopt kids from your other households ugh
I mean I guess they realized that it led to incestuous relationships so I understand why they dropped that mechanic.
@@dundee6402 it wouldn’t have to! It should honestly just work like transferring sims between households or moving them out. But I get how it would take a lot of effort to code that in just to fix a situation that probably happens very rarely
I love how we're bringing back the Sims 2, proving it was elite.
I tend to "seed" the adoption pool by making seven toddlers and one adult, then killing off the adult and let the kids get taken away. This way if a family in my game adopt a toddler I know what they're getting. Also, last one in is first one out. That's why a child that's taken away from a family will be the first one available for adoption. Always. I have never adopted a baby before but someone may have to at some point now so I can see how the mixing of the genes go since some Sims 2 sims have questionable genes. Great video I always love these.
I just played Sims 2 and my Sim (who is a single dad) had to go to work, so I called a babysitter. She arrived, my Sim drove off to work, then the babysitter just disappeared and his daughter got taken away because she was left alone... That kinda sucked, especially because I hadn't saved in a while. I had her adopted by a neighbour though, so yeah. It was interesting for the story, but still, it kinda ruined what I originally had in mind for that family.
This happened to me too once! I was so mad until I realized the babysitter actually died
Oh my god I usually don't play with adoption, but I'm really excited to start adopting babies to add some additional variety into my playable stock. Of course townies may get married in eventually anyways, but when I batch-create custom townies using the old PeggySims way of randomizing in BodyShop, I end up with really interesting Sims that I don't want to marry into my families right away because they're such a bother to create so I want to see them wandering around for a while before doing another set, but I'm always so excited to start getting their genes into my playables family trees. This is brilliant.
I remember when i was about 9 i made a family and the parents worked so the kids were alone and they got taken away and then I started crying
Eventually I made the dad "divorce" the mom and then she started eating, became fat and died because of flies. (Didnt clean the plates)
Cool story XD
that's depressing
i love these sorts of videos! i never wouldve known any of the genetics or adoption trivia if it wasnt for you so thank you!! (also been binge watching your legacy challenge lately and loving it. keep it up!)
Videos about TS2 and TS3 just remind me of how easy TS4 is. I had to legitimately work hard to get a kid taken away in TS4.
All right, my favorite messed up family story. Grandma’s kid goes to college. For whatever reason I cheat and de-age grandma. Grandma gets taken by social services. Grandma’s grandson adopts her. For whatever reason, her portrait stays in the family tree which now loops forever.
LOL
This is amazing! So if I create my own empty neighborhood and create my own townies, when I adopt a baby will it be a mix of the two townies that I have created? OMG. The possibilities!
What I'd really like in a Sims game is if there was a distinction between adoptive family and biological family on the family trees. Like the lines could be different colors and/or there's a button to switch from one to the other. That would also prevent the incest thing.
thats SO interesting with infants :o i remember nina caliente adopted an infant girl who grew up to be so incredibly cute and i couldnt for the life of me determine what default face template she had. this video definitely solved years long mystery for me :)
The townie parent thing also exists in sims 3 in some way. I was randomly creating wizarding offspring in Dragon Valley threw master Controller , there were a lot on familiar faces.
that was soo interesting! I never thought about this 0_0 this game is a little twisted.
thank you for making this, make me think deeper about the adoption option that I took for granted.
I wish I had evidence of this. When I first started playing the Sims 2 I was messing around with a test family. I was randomly demolishing squares in the house, so there were pieces of foundation missing and stairs destroyed. The social worker could not find a way in, so she wandered around for a few seconds, then turned around to go back to her car. When she reached the car the game crashed. I was surprised, because I later learned that she's supposed to just magically teleport to get the child.
I love that the adopted baby is a mix of to townies! Kind off realistic I guess, and just generally funny considering how the creators of sims could just (?) have made a face template applying to babies as well. Great video!
There is the one baby face template, but it needs the “parents” for what face and everything it will have
This is a great video series! Your editing, recording, and researching skills are on point. So excited to binge watch them all...
Omg, I was experimenting with this too. I made my Sim marry his biologycal sister and have kids. You can make them marry and make out with their own parents aswell!! But the parents Sims do have memories of them tho. Weird.
I once made a rich family whose newborn got taken away for story purposes. I continued playing with the bio-parent until she died. I forgot about this newborn and adopted a baby into a different family, thinking i'd get a townie mix. As soon as he arrived on the lot, he had the inheritance memory as he had interherited money from his deceased bio mom, being technically her last living relative. He didn't add extra funds to the family household tho, unfortunately. His bio mom also owned a huge vacation home, but the deed got transferred to a random neighbour.
You're so powerful. Your mind... UGH it amazes me sometimes
Your videos are so informative and I love them! I actually loaded a save file I found from 2007 and SPECIFICALLY looked for First Born Syndrome. And bam! Same exact personality and face. Also... I had two family sims married... innocent but rookie mistake for boring gameplay lol
Regana Cappuletti`s first child was already a teenager, and I decided to make her a new one.
I saved the game, and exited to the map, came into cas, and was triying to remember how many times I generated a new sim previous time. Iknewonlyhat that number was not 0. I thought for a while about exiteing, without new actions (to avoid useing the same number for shure) But I din`t, and generated 5 more new sims. Yes, Igot the same child borned
I can tell your channel’s going to blow up and gain 1M subscribers in a month sometime soon 😂
This reads like one of the random calls you could get in the original Sims game 😂 (in a good way)
One more proof that adopted babies are created from townies: when you use face defaults and adopt toddlers or children, they'll be generated with new pretty face templates. But babies will have original maxis face features from pre-made townies, at least until enough new townies are spawned.
How different is Sims 3 from 2 in this regard?
I did a little experiment once (in 3) where I had the parent die and the kid taken away, then tried to have another family adopt her. It didn't work, as she never appeared in the adoption window, yet she was still in the town with some kind of... hmm, townie foster family or something, where I assume all townie children 'live'.
It's weird there. The parents are still connected to the kids via family tree and can invite them (if they're not babies/toddlers), so if you type testingcheats, you can just add the child back to the family xD But I don't think they can be re-adopted :O
@@Marticore A shame, as that mucks up a story-line a bit but, oh well!
It's not cheating, it's storytelling, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
Ta for the reply.
@@Marticore would love to watch a video on sims 3 adoption and children quirks!
Wow! I love learning more about TS2. Your videos are great.
I love your videos. I've always wanted someone to talk about The Sims from a technical point of view and to analyze the way the game behaves internally.
I love how you say “rescued” rather than “taken away” which it technically true
I wonder why they didn't do this random townies' mixed genes thing with other age groups. It makes a lot more sense than randomly generated children.
It's basically because you can't make babies in CAS.
@@Marticore yeah I know why they made it only for babies, but I think this system would be cool for other age groups too (even if they are in CAS). It would be more interesting if every adopted children were result of mixing townies' genes, than just random face template from CAS.
Yep!
I remember playing the Curious family and the school bus glitched and never arrived. three days or so later the kids got taken :/
I didn't knew most of the things you explained in the video, thanks
I just started again to play the sims 2 (going back from the sims 3) and I must say : I haven't had that much fun in years with the sims.... Thank you for your video, super interesting and I like your voice too !
Imagine marrying your sibling only to adopt your other sibling.
xD
I was playing today and decided to adopt, but I didn't know the Random Townie fact and now I'm beating my head on a wall 😞. Thanks for this awesome Video good work 👍
I clicked on this video expecting some quiz questions on adoption in The Sims 2 😂 was pleasantly surprised
That's so dark when you think about it 😭😭 You get your kid taken away and it's forever erased from your bloodline 😭
Hi! I just started getting really into the sims 2 lately and love your technical videos. Can you talk about ms.crumplebottom and why the devs made her an object not a sim even though it can corrupt the game? And is it possible to convert her into a sim without breaking the game or was her being an object decided early in development
I'm guessing it was easier to code her behavior if she's made an object
@@Marticore yet another example of society objectifying a strong woman
Breaking the game? Maybe, breaking Mrs crumplebottom? Definitely lol
I remember being so shocked when the kids from one family got taken away and adopting those same children when playing another family 😂
Actually I had the Ottomas grandma take a few of the kids with her and move out, they got taken away and then the parents could adopt them back so it's not technically the parents. (Also some visuals were implying that teens could get taken away and well that's not accurate since they can't get adopted back either)
Well, yeah, by "parents" I meant the Sims that were "legal guardians" of the child that was taken away.
What visuals?
One way to get teens back is to send them to college on the neighborhood.
Get teens back from what? xD I said very clearly they can't be taken away!
I meant when they run away from home, I forgot that the video was just about adoptions
Oh, yeah that's true, I guess. Since they always come back right before their birthday, the college thing makes sense.
I remember one time I turned move_objects on and deleted the social worker... Baby could stay! 😭
You had to also enable buy mode with mods!
@@Marticore or, well, dormspecifictoolsdisabled false
I've been playing this game since release and I had no idea that Townies were the parents of the adopted babies! I rarely adopt when I play, but I think I'm going to do it more often now. Thanks! :D
whoa! thanks, that was so interesting, definitely THE BEST thing I've could watch in the morning!! loves from Russia 💘💘💘
I didn't know about the kids being generated from random townies, wow! i have an adopted toddler with really peculiar ice blue eyes ... i'm gonna go look for her "biological" parents around town just for fun! thanks!
Social workers have supernatural powers but don't the social worker's van have a car seat for babies and toddlers?
I had no idea about the townie parents for adopted babies. What happens with their genetics? To use your example of Komei and Marisa, would a baby get a gene for her blonde hair and his red hair or would the genes just double up, like with a CAS Sim? Hope that made sense!
It's very possible that townies are homozygous, if that's what you're refering to. But it doesn't concern Komei and Marisa that much, as only Marisa has a dominant eye color, other than that all their genes are non-dominant! :D
Given how detailed Sims 2 is I'm very surprised the baby just disappears when the social worker puts them in the car
the furthest i've ever webt with this "sibling romance thanks to adoption" thing is having two cousins get together but they had 3 bolts of chemistry so i forgave myself, lol
In my game Jennifer and John Burb’s third child was taken away because of bad grades. But thanks to this video I was able to get Lucy and Dustin broke (who have just come back from university and engaged) to adopt him. It’s weird because she’s technically now his adopted mother and his biological sister but I think its was kinda cute he’s still in the family.
Awww that’s sweet
I love your videos, more people need to appreciate your channel and the Sims 2 😭💜
Carr Ina and Graze Ina, omg that's beautiful xD
The season thing really upset me she was just building a snowpal with her friend. Then boom the social worker came and took her. She was about to come in and warm up next to the fireplace.
I wonder, do adopted sims retain their recessive genes from their bio parents or are they treated like they’re fresh from create a sim? I would assume they’d keep it kinda like how the adopted babies have the genes from their townie parents without being related.
It doesn’t affect their dna or any info except family ties and memories
Reason #2 why kids can get taken away is no joke. I was family with the Newson family in Sims 2 (it starts with 2 teens, 2 children, & 2 toddlers) and was doing well. The toddlers aged up and everything was great, then I got a notification that one of the boy children was overheating.
I clicked on him to see that he was jumping on the bed in his pjs. Then I heard the dreaded jingle and four of my six family members disappeared from my sims selection. I rage quit and went back to a previous save.
When i was a kid, i was playing with my original household's grown up children, and i've never played again with the parents so the childrend got older than their parents. That's why i prefer SIms3
The Sims 2! Yay!
I didn't know a taken child will be put up for adoption, it's a good idea
This almost happened to me. I had an adopted cousin and we actually met at a party. Later around a family reunion we found out that we were cousins 😂
WHAT THIS GAME IS TRULY INSANE AND AMAZING!!!!
And this is why I love TS2 lol
Can townies in different sub neighborhoods be the genetic donors? For example, if have a main neighbourhood with no townies but add downtown with the the downtownies will the game be able to generate a baby or will you get an error message?
I think most downtownies should be listed as donors, I'm not sure though
I wish the adoption or even creation of new sims was done like the baby one, especially that we see it's already being used. Instead of getting a sim with template face just mix genes of two townies, make a baby and immediately grow them up to whatever age is needed >.< Maybe someone could make a mod for this...
Well, you can adopt a baby and use InSimenator to grow it up fast :D
LMFAOOO I'm so glad i stayed until the outro. 🤣 tell me why somehow I understood what she said too
1:49 also if you woohoo in front of them, I think. Once when I was like 10 I tried to make a really sad story and made the parents woohoo and made her get into the room and I closed the door (I don't know what was going through my mind, I had something wrong xD), and the child got taken away.
about travis and hannah: imagine if sim babies had the biological consecuences actual incest babies have... :|
Would be a sick mod actually
In sims 2 I once had a nice family 3 children and the parents. One of the kids got taken away which spiralled into the divorce of the parents. Then the mum remarried and her new man adopted the kid back lol
Cool! I never knew all this. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻☺
there was a glitch where my child sim got stuck in the floor, and the social worker couldn't reach her, so the social worker would just signal me every 5 secs telling me she can't reach her.
This is how I was able to breed lots if pure blooded aliens from strange town, the smith alien dad has two daughters, I used to have the. Have kids and lose them and he will breed with them if they were female and the daughters will breed if it's a boy.
So mr Smith alien became his very in birth Queen, I mean Birth King
5:06 even the baby approves (thumbs up)
Now that I know how to use SimPE I resolved the adopted kid issue by having each child their family flag checked with their original family members in their relationships, so they won't have any attraction and be locked out of romantic interactions with them once they grow up.
Yeah, I'd just do that with mods like InSimenator, but the vanilla game's system is interesting 😆
This isn't related to adoption, but something weird happened to me recently while playing sims 2. Maybe it was a glitch, I don't know. I moved in the Capp family (the one with Antonio and his kids) into a lot and the kids turned into teenagers. When Benedick family kissed Beatrice, his sister, she got the "first kiss" memory. She could also flirt with him, make out with him and ask to go steady. On his part, he couldn't do any of those things, thankfully, but he was able to say yes to go steady. He rejected making out. Super weird since they are related! When they grew up and went to college, the game recognized them fully as siblings again, and no romantic options were available. Don't know if anyone else has had this issue?
The premade neighbourhoods in the sims 2 can be notoriously glitchy, especially Strangetown and Veronaville from what I know. If you were using the versions that came with the game and not any kind of fixed versions, then I'd just chalk that up to it being a glitch
that is what I was thinking to do in my game (because it`s written in simswiki, that they are named after two lovers), but gave up that idea, because it is two much.
When I was lannistering sims in CadtawayStoryes, I had to change their relationships in simPe after their becomeing adults, not matter if I turned those siblings into lovers when they were teens, or not
Incest change the viev of genealogical tree. When you look from grandparents, you see the same grandchiild two times (under dauuhter and under son). When you look from result of incest - one of parents dissapear. Form of connecting lines changes. Now it is figure, where three lines come from one point under 120 degrees. Smth like this
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I don`t know why
2:48 and a dirty toilet xd
Sims gameplay idea. Adopt a baby, grow him up to an adult and then try to figure out which townies are his biological parents and make friends with them
I did that in a video
I seem to have a Polish TH-camr GPS installed inside of me because I always land on channels owned by poles...is this a sign from the motherland?
7:10 Sweeeet homeee Alabama *start playing
Also, adoption can also be done with the tombstone of L and D!
I’m surprised and confused by the adoption ban for parents that had kids taken, because I remember specifically doing so, adopting a new kid right after mine got taken (for low grades) cause I didn’t want to deal.... I remember it because the adopted girl brought my original kid home from school, oops...
1:01 what happen if there multiple child got taken away? would it just randomize, or does it just go to the last one.
Last one, then second last and so on :D