Marticore, how do you set your own age span in Sims 3? Ive been trying to come up with my own way instead of making things long but im pretty sure the length of aging and how its counted is different in 3 than 2, like it counts how many days they are than have left(?) if im not mistaken cause I know Adults can live up to 90 days or something like that, so I was curious on how you would plan your own aging system in that game to try to reflect real life?
For TS3 I usually go by 2 days = 1 year, so: Baby - 2 days Toddler - 10 days Child - 14 days Teenager - 14 days Young Adult - 50 days Adult - 40 days Elder - 20 days This way Sims live for minimum 150 days, so to me that is 75 years, but since elders usually don't die immediately, it can go up to 80+ years lived. Oh, and you need to have lifespan set to "long" to be able to do it! I like this double lifespan in TS3 because there I only play with one family. In TS2 I usually do rotational gameplay, so I prefer 1 day = 1 year.
I think for Brandi it was more implied that she was a teen mom even though it isn’t technically possible in the game? That was just the vibes I got I guess
With mods, this is possible, and judging by some studies, most likely these mods are based on what they really planned to do in the game before - teenage pregnancy. It's just that later Sims began to be made more childish and all this was cleaned up. Apparently, alcohol was also planned there. No wonder the restaurant has a function to order a drink. Obviously, there should have been more than just water, although why the developers didn't at least shove the juice in there is not clear
I mean, apparently, when the developers played the characters during the testing and development phase of the game, teenage pregnancy was possible. And they were clearly acting out Brandi's teenage years and most likely she was pregnant and gave birth in her teenage years. By the time of release, this function had been cut out, or rather simply turned off, silenced in fact.
According to the research of some players, the Inteenimater mod is essentially based on the code or partial code of the game itself, i.e., in fact, the creator of this mod did not make a new one, but included what was originally in the game. Teenage pregnancy and the division of adolescence into 2 parts. The first 7 days are a teenager, and the second are in fact already a young age, as in Sims 3, when a teenager gets functions like an adult, can move, get married and have children. And it was clearly in the game, as Sims 2 fans found a screenshot from the beta version of the game, which was leaked online by the developers before the official release of the game to show approximately what kind of game it will be. And in this screenshot, Brandy is with her future husband, they are teenagers, but he proposes to her. That is, initially it was possible. Inteenimater just turned it on.
i always though lifespans were shaped as they are based on how they feel looking back. You don't remember much about being a toddler, childhood went by fast, but you have a lot of memories from your teen years etc etc
I dont subscribe to that theory. The game lifespan simply makes no sense, they had to do this to speed up time, so people dont waste too much time on a single generation but then again its still broken in a way. They tried to fix things with the University where you send your sim to University play so it ages up when its done and not be a teen like a sibling when it comes home, or better say if it would stay home as before the EP existed. Anyways I remember lots of things from my 3rd year onwards, I even have weird memories when I was probably before 3 ... Its a blessing having a photographic memory or what even is called but also a curse since I wish some things I forget because they are bothering me. But what also bothers me are people who seem way to lobotomized to remember anything. My mother forgets what she said minutes later let alone what she told me when I was a kid ... So we always argue over this, we have a agreement then she breaks it simply by forgetting or misremembering crap, often she is projecting a lot too. She did me harm I lost count how many times. Like we would have a legal meeting in a court and she didnt come, I was a minor and she needed to be there representing me as a only parent otherwise the case is dissmised ... she was that empty headed that she "forgot" and came up with an excuse that she had to work that day even tho she wasnt even employed at the time. I don't know how she even manage to have a job, life of any kind with such a bird brain. She always had luck meanwhile me I suffer ever since I know for myself. She isn't the only one like that tho. I even as a kid started recording people conversations so I have proof that I am not crazy and that they are wrong ...
@@dundee6402 The fact that they have a bladder motive but not a colon motive implies that their digestive systems convert all of their waste into liquid, which is more evidence that they’re not exactly _Homo sapiens_
I don't consider the in game age as actual age. For me it's symbolic, like a story that cuts for example when a person is like 40 and continues when the sim turns 80 or something like that. Since their lifes are so short and we can't spend every single day of their life with them for me how we see their life is more like a diary, consisting of only the more important moments in their lives and their actual age isn't really that relevant to me.
I don't count their ages either. I'm fine with them jumping from their 30s to 50s because that's how they look like. Besides counting years might lead to very creepy events such as a 16 year old teen dating with a 20 year old "teen". To deal with the short lifespans I just turn aging off until I feel like they've lived long enough.
Same here. And for the teenage lifespan: I send them to college when they are 7 days from adulthood, and spend to 3-day rounds with them in college. That way they turn into adults at the same moment but they are not teenagers all the time. Maybe they should have introduced a "middle aged" stage or so? In which your Sims are not old yet but their breeding days are more or less over (especially as a female) :-)
True. For example like realistically every couple argues, more than ten times. But if you want to portray the sims relationship as healthy then you don’t let them argue, maximal 1-3 times. If you want to portray it as bad and unhealthy then you let them argue like 7+ times which realistically isn’t a lot but for the sims it is bc they don’t live that Long
I find it funny to hear people say the teen age lasts too long when I find it to go way too fast when I'm actually playing. I feel like I never get to have the full teen experience of going out on the weekends, having get-togethers, having a part time job, and having teenage flings. Maybe it's just me since I lived a very boring teenage life. Also the teen voices just crack me up (no pun intended).
Yeah the same for me too unless I put them through university. (Which I think halts their aging so that they turn into adults only when they graduate in sims 2?) But even then the experience feels so short and incomplete to me
I always thought of Sims as humanlike beings that live in some alternate universe or on another planet! To me the wonky life stages are just part of their reality. Along with aliens that impregnate males, growing up in a shower or self-produced confetti, Matchmakers who can summon Sims out of the sky, *insert long list here*! I've never understood the appeal of mods that make the game more "realistic" because to me that takes away the essence of what the Sims are. I deal with real life every day, I don't want it in my Sims game! Haha!
I am a generational player, currently on my 18th generation in Pleasantview. I absolutely love the lifespan in the sims 2. I like that it gives me complete control over all the aging in my town. I keep a binder with all my sims and write down the order in which my sims are born as a reference. I rotate my families so I can never get bored.
I prefer just using the aging on/off cheat and let my sims age up when I’m ready for them to, because I want to spend more time with them in each life stage.
@@randomyoutubeuser53462 in the game you open up the cheat window (press ctrl shift c) and type “aging off” without the quotes and it stops your sims and pets from aging until whenever you turn it back on by typing “aging on”
Same. I toggle it off once they're close to the next stage then play with them until I feel ready to take the next step. When it comes to video games I like to take my sweet time and get attached quickly, so if I played without the cheat this game would be a little sad and stressful for me. I recommend the ' Individual Aging ON/OFF' mod by Monique.
@@Marticore well I find you amusing, entertaining and informing. I played sims 2 in college and have such fond memories of it. And just realised I did my math wrong. I AM 35. So 40 in 5 years! Slightly less sad
When you send a sim to college, and they age to an adult, then elder, even if they’ve been through all 24-30 days of college, it still says: Elder (Is 54 days old)
You're right! It doesn't make sense at all! I started following Pleasantsims' aging system a few years ago, and I much prefer it to how Maxis set everything up. 14 days is way too long for teenagehood in my opinion, and three days of pregnancy is absurd. I like having the chance for siblings to be closer in age, since a lot of families have a bunch of children in short succession, even if it's more difficult in the short term. While I do love the aging system I follow, I do reminisce sometimes about the days where teens were teens for so long, and the younger life stages were still really fun to play around with. I used to take a lot more time customizing my toddlers, children and teens, since they'd be that age for longer, and it was fun to dress them up and make them exactly how I wanted. Nowadays, the age span is so short it's way too tedious to put time and effort into little Jimmy's winter outfit, since he'll be an adult in a few rounds. I also sometimes miss the three day pregnancies, since it felt so exciting watching that belly pop and seeing them slowly progress and change. There was time to plan out the nursery, have family over to see the pregnant sim, and really enjoy the process. All in all, this video was a trip down memory lane! Wonderful job, as always!
Wow I never knew you weren’t supposed to not wait until 6 pm of the day. Sometimes I age them up as soon as possible because I‘m tired of their life span and sometimes I wait until 6 pm with the birthday cake. This is all a very strange system I‘m thinking about getting a mod to change the days of a life span.
Ah sorry I phrased it wrong. I meant it more as in if a teenager gets a pet it can live until that very sims become an elder wich I find very unrealistic. I mean in real life that would be amazing but if you play as a dog breeder in the sims you don’t get to see very many generations without the household constantly being full ;D
@@mayg9933 There is a way to make them have a shorter life span. Or I am making confusion with Sims 3. Try searching for it on the settings or for a mod.
aging has always been SUCH a struggle for me in this game, lord. back when i didn't know about mods and custom age spans, i used to feel SO stressed having to hurry with the baby making otherwise every child born into a family after the first one would end up growing up with irrationally old parents. i did enjoy how long the teen stage was, but not at the expense of the adult one. now i have a custom lifespan very similar to yours and i count days as years as well, but even that is kinda complicated with the way the game works. a huge issue for me is this "sims can/should age up a day before they actually would" thing, i never wanted to age sims up before it said 0 days but i did use to want to throw birthday parties. i haven't in a very long time though, i've been brought off it even if i now have mods to fix the double aging afterwards, i just can't be arsed now. it has always made me so nervous! also, i have never used the elixir of life, i know the developers meant it as a way for aspiration to influence lifespan but i am so glad they ended up making it optional in the form of a reward object. i do not like using most of the reward objects, they make the game too easy/unrealistic for someone who plays like me. and don't even get me started on uni - i wish i could have my teens live out every single minute of their teens before i have to send them to uni. ugh, all of this struggle. but it's still worth it for the best sims game!
For me the only part that is actually bothersome is the ridiculously long teenager lifespan. I don't really care about the "extra day" because I always age up my sims right after the 1 day away notification. To count the age of my sims I simply subtract the days lasting from the number of days the next lifestage represent and add 1.
i really wish sims 2 had that young adult life stage. I wish there were more life stages in general tbh. Having only like 5 or 6 doesn't cut it. theres technically 8 or 9 in the real world.
I never realised how messed up the ageing system is until I started watching Cindy/Pleasantsims’ LP. Now I use mods to make the teen life stage 8 days and the Uni years 2 days each, also totalling 8 days. Then for the adults, I give them 9 days back using the Elixir of life which makes their total life stage 37 days. Seems to be working so far for me 🙂
I just turn the ageing off as soon as I get the pop up that its time to by a birthday cake. Hold the party next day and turn ageing back on while blowing out candles. No more trying to time blowing out candles to ageing. Plus I use a long ageing mod too, but turning ageing off made throwing parties easy because I often hold them at 7-8pm and everyone is nearly always at home. I count each day as 6 months and also use a 48 hour pregnancy mod and play 8 day uni. Basically modded the heck out of ageing.
Hey, same! 2 days = 1 year and I made pregnancy 36 hours with 8 day uni. I think I need to make the overall lifespan shorter though haha Adults that went to college are 22-65 years and Elders 65-85 and I'm realizing now while realistic, it's just gonna make getting through rounds longer. Letting them die of even old age is hard though lol not ready to let them go.
@@Juskaey My Young Adults are aged 18-23 which is why my adults (23-60) have 37 years (74 days) I looked at 36 hour pregnancy but it felt a bit too short for me. Even though I have 8 day uni I actually give them 10 days (5 years) so they can go on academic probation twice or have a couple of days off to have fun. Basically a gap year if they did well at uni. I play YA as a life stage not just as uni students. So not all of them will even do uni. I play round of 5 days (to the season) But I am a slow player so it doesn't bother me. This was originally for my custom hood but I even play my Ubber hood on this same time scale.
@@joandsarah77 I have so much trouble picking out a lifespan. Sometimes I feel things are moving too slow, other times too fast haha I'm constantly changing my mind. I've also considered having all my sims do YA as well, have had the mod sitting around. Less age editing to worry about. I was also doing 4 day rounds/seasons for a bit but I think I'm going to go back to 5. Getting a feel for everything with Pleasantview while I build my first custom hood.
I made my own custom lifespan too, with every day as one year and the 18 hour pregnancy mod. I do consider the last day to be a phantom day, because in SimPE it does count it as day "zero" and it makes aging up a bit easier for me. I'm pretty lenient on when they actually grow up, as long as it's before 18:00 aging next day so their age in the new state remains correct. I just think to myself that some people go a little faster, while others go a little slower. The phantom day made aging up very relaxed for me. I track their ages in an excel sheet. My lifespan gets them to very old, my preference is to age them up at age: baby 1, toddler 4, child 12, teen 18, adult 70, which means with at max. elders can get to be 100. And this is how I use the phantom day: if my child is one day from becoming a teen, he is 12 (on that phantom day). I organize a party when convenient (usually immediately). Then I age him up. He is still 12. Then proceeds to age up to thirteen normally at 18:00 the following day. Because I added that phantom day to each stage to do this, he counts in the game as 7 days from age up. So it's not that hard to count for me, I only need to retract one day. I just rely on my sims tracker more. Which also has a tab to check the amount of sim days against the age. Handy, because I make mistakes sometimes. I also use the phantom day for teens to send them to college. In college, every two days make one university year. So for each one day I play in regular hoods, I play two days in college. The students age up accordingly: one year older every two days. As they can get pregnant etc in college, family members also age only once every two days. When they return to the hood, I correct their in-game ages to match the one I have noted.
I actually always age them up by cake (with or without party) after 6 pm the day it say "X will age up tomorrow", so the number of days for Elders make sense.
I personally think of years in terms of seasons rather than days, i.e. when all four seasons complete that is one year. My sims live for a very long time. 😁
I use my own lifespan mod and I adjusted it so my Sims always age up in that way you said makes no sense XD But I age them up right after that notification their birthday is one day after, so there is no thing like aging twice during one day
Cool! I could easily just adjust my lifespan to that and try not to forget about their birthday, but it's all about counting age by subtraction that would be more difficult for me then.
@@Marticore Yeah, counting my Sims' age was confusing to me at first, but now I'm used to it. But for my adults I substract that one day actually, because in my system teens are gone from families for 4 days when they go to college and my adult stage lasts 42 (43 technically, but you know), so if Sim went to college it should be 38 for them and with Sim Manipulator I can substract only 3 or only 5 days so I just figured out I can substract that one day extra too and my adults age up the same way as yours
I have the days arranged so it adds up to 54 days as an elder by aging my sims up 1 day beforehand. I've also recently implemented something new with college in my rotations to make the later age of sims make more sense. Not sure what I'll do once I get sims that don't want to go college though. So the ages come out like this: Baby = 0-1 days/years Toddler = 2-4 days/years Child = 5-11 days/years Teenager = 12-17 days/years Young Adult = 18-25 days/years Adult = 26-53 days/years Elder = 54 days/years onward It was in the end kind of easy for me to get the college implemented in the life span by counting each semester in college as 1 day/year, even though that doesn't technically make sense, so college counts as 8 days total. This way I've managed to work around the illogical nature of the teen life span to make the original life span more realistic.
I imagine the teens who didn't go to college, as shorter young adults. 😅 Teens can move out and drive cars in the Sims 2 so they can be 18+. Here in Finland the youngest age for kids to move out is at 16 and the youngest age to drive is at 18, and they go to college at 19 or 20 (if they did the military year between) at youngest. In sim days, that would still be 6 years time to do uni, which in Finland takes 5-7 years (bachelor 3 + masters 2, total length of your studying spot at the uni is 7 years).
Here’s my age span that I play in my game, I play similar to pleasant sims but with a few alterations, her age span is 1 day= 1 year. Babies have 2 days (0-1 years as they couldn’t only have 1 day set in sim PE), toddlers have 5 days (age 1-5 years old), children have 7 days (age 6-12 years old), Teens have 8 days (13-20 years old, they can only go to college from age 16 onwards, if they go to college aged 17-19 years old, they must have 1-3 days taken off their adult lifespan to simulate that they graduated from college at age 21-23 years old) this does mean that sims go to school until they are 20 years old (we leave school in the UK at age 16) , adults get 40 days (ages 20-60 years old) and elders I left their lifespan alone because it looked a bit complicated in SimPE but I reckon they have around 10-15 days in their lifespan so I guess they would kick the bucket around 70-75 years old. Also I have adjusted pets ages in SimPE so the pets won’t live longer than the human sims! But this means pets will die whilst your kids are still growing up, sorry! It’s more realistic this way!
I also hate the sims 2 lifespan! My biggest pet peeve (when I was playing only with the base game) was that if I wanted to create a household that has a sim who has few kids and one or more is a teenager, then the parent would still have those 29 days until elder. So basically the child would have been born when the parent was a child or something?! Usually I send every teen to college nowadays and I fail the sims I feel aren't "suited" to the college life. Hope my explanation made sense!
This video made me realize that this game warped my view on aging as a kid. I viewed days-as-years the same way as you, and thought that 54 years-old was a sensible time to retire and possibly randomly die at anytime.
I never play with teens, i send them to college right away, so i haven't really noticed that discrepancy. In my gameplay, where students are also kinda frozen, they come back home to a pretty young parents, so sometimes houses get overcrowded because of neverdying grands %)
Good Point @Marticore. Loved the starting line where you said, "Brandi must've drinking Life Elixir every day with her morning coffee" lmao so hard, but all makes sense what you've said..so, im gonna download your age span mod and test it. I already have a mod in my game what shortens the teens life span to 8 days.
I find default ages in Sims are always off for me especially Sims 2. I always end up changing it, either through mods or the game options. Not enough time with each stage to appreciate them, so I always make them longer, except for teens lol.
@@cristofferhenrique1242 in the Sims 3 and 4 you can just go into options but there isn't really a way to do that in the Sims 2 unless you keep using the elixir of life (a reward you get with aspiration points) or use cheats to keep setting their age back.
I usually go with the in game aging system and sometimes use the elixir of life because I'm too lazy to work out a workable system that's also balanced between Sims (as I like to play rotationally in the Sims 2,) but it doesn't make much sense. It's annoying how most of the Strangetown teens are so close to aging up to adulthood (that's not really related but yeah lol,) and the Beakers and Nervous Subject are too close in age. Also there are some lifetime wants like having so many dates etc or owning a bunch of businesses at 5* which are unrealistic for the lifespan unless you extend it. I also don't like to rush Sims through their life I want them to have a bunch of dates before marrying, and failed relationships and things like that before getting married for realism and maybe get divorced sometimes and re-married and things like that. I also don't want them to go on a date every single day just to achieve the 50 date lifetime wants lol.
idk, I've never counted a sim's age numerically. I just see it as ambiguous life stages, rather than any kind of 1:1 days:years system. To me, a sim that's 1 day away from aging up and a sim who's 20 days away from aging up are the same age, until one of them actually ages up
I got back into 2 recently and forgot how the age system was crazy, both my child sim and toddler sim aged up to teens and caught up to their twin brothers who began my playthrough as teens.
I dont understand why people think the teen span is too long tbh. The only problem I have is with the adult life being too short. And I use the elixir of life for that. I never needed mods or cheating for it
I'm a fiend, I have set all life stages to be double in length because I hate using the elixir and I hate having my sims die before I even get to know them lol. Otherwise I really don't mind the proportion of life stage lengths.
1:53 these notifications say as shown on screenshots that sim will grow up in a day, not that it'll be their birthday. That and the party part right after give me an idea it's probably supposed to mean "make birthday party for this sim or something" like.. before 6pm next day
I use a combo of BoilingOil's Slow Aging Controller and a slightly edited version of AlmightyHat's Proportional Gestation based aging mod. The aging mod uses a 1 day = 3 months model based on the 3 day sim pregnancy (so that it lasts about 9 "months"). You do end up with sims that live a loooong time, which is nice if you want to play at a relaxed pace. The aging controller I use mostly because it gives me the ability to stop aging on individual sims. Usually, I will stop the aging when I get the birthday pop-up so I don't have to worry about the sim aging up before they get to blow out the candles. (I just have to remember to turn it back on after!) Simler90 on Mod The Sims has a birthday party fix mod (in the Aging Mods upload) that's supposed to prevent a sim from aging up if there is a birthday party happening, but I haven't tried it.
I like to play with double life span mod in my custom neighborhood, so I don't really care if they lose a day on their birthday. I feel like the vanilla life span is too short. I like to do many things with my sims and I want them to take their time choosing their partners and having kids when they really want it. I like having deep and meaningful stories, and with the vanilla life span there's really no time to do that.
I tried customizing my lifespan following tutorials but it didn’t work. Rn I allow all sims to have their full life, and give a married couple a shared elixer to age down together some. I hate how long it for teens, bc the parents are often elders before the youngest children become teens if they had multiple children. Its weird.
To be honest, i never care about the Sims age, not because it may not matter. I mean this video and other videos on this matter prove that it matters to people, but because i know programming and i can imagine how complicated it would be to just make an aging system. So i just take the bar of life stage as a representation of how much time they have left on that life stage, because it would create this kind of problems and i don't want to make my head hurt thinking about this kind of stuff.
There should be a middle-aged adult stage between adult and elder. I fake it by using the life elixer/potion of youth at the end of the adult stage to reset to the beginning of it, I also give the sim a new look that makes them look older. So they go through the adult stage twice. And for young adults, if they spend time at university I’ll put them back to the beginning of YA when they’re done.
What we really need is just a better young adult stage. A young adult lifestage that isn't just limited to college and is more than just teen-voiced slow-moving adults to make up for that half of adult life that seems to be missing. We got it in later games but we really needed it in Sims 2 ngl.
When you use the birthday cake, your sim ages two years during one day. The first time when you use the birthday cake (let's say at 4 pm), the second time at the normal aging time at 6pm. There are two ways to avoid that. Either don't use a birthday cake and let your sims age up on their own, or use Monique's individual aging on/off mod (available on mod the sims) to turn aging off for the birthday sim until six pm has past. Edit: Sorry was too quick :). I literally posted my comment two seconds before you explained things. The mod is a good solution though for a birthday party without stress.
i still throw birthdays so long as they want to and always age up a couple hours earlier then use the simblender to age the sim down to their max days.
the lifespan in the sims 2 is soo short so I use the elixir of life A LOT... If I dont have enough then I try to do go on dates to bring my aspiration points up
That is a very different approach from my. But It might be because I mostly play as one family. (and rotate around that family) And since game posses Seasons I felt like they lived to short. Which was always the reason why when playing (or more like testing) Sims 3/4 I was giving them max long lifespan. Sure I feel like it was affecting how fast you can befriend people. But I liked seeing life of individual sims as a long adventure, and at the adult stage it could allow me to experience middle age crisis - express their change of their opinions, their style and what they consider more or less important, trying to do stuff that they never did. While in Sims 2 I was trying to stay on the rails. Still, Sims 2 is the most enjoyable.
Totally agree with you on this, however, it also bugged me that with seasons, a new sim born would become a child before 4 seasons passed. EXCUSE ME? NO?! I immediately made my own age and pregnancy duration mod as soon as I figured out how to, so my Sims now actually experience "real years" (short ones, but at least it makes logical sense now)
It's the same for the Sims 3, teenagehood is twice longer than childhood when it should be shorter (13-19 is less years than 5-12). Fortunately you can customize in that game, but it still makes me wonder what the Sims devs think teenagehood actually means.
I use the 8 day teens mod, but otherwise I stick to the default system. As for birthdays, I never bother with a cake or a party as I find it annoying to do every time, and I'd rather never do it than only do it occasionally.
I play The Sims 2 Basic lifespan for my merged strangetown and Pleasantview and i have the 18 hour pregnancy mod so the Sims can actually see their kids grow up.But i use Pleasant Sims custom lifespan for a custom town where 1 day is 1 Year. if my Sims age up before 6 PM i turn off their aging with moniques individual aging mod. But hearing how other People deal with it is Always Fun!
Whenever my teen is 1 day away from growing up, I usually send em to college and play them for how long my session was going to last before moving to a new family.
I used to use your lifespan and that whole Elders being 57 when they’re actually 60 thing really annoyed me. So I made my own lifespan where the extra day is added back in. Now I just remember to age them up at 6pm when the 1 day left notification comes up. Then to count how old they are I still subtract how many days are left, but I just remember that the final day is 1 day higher. So for example, my child span is from 4-12 and they age up on their 13th birthday. If I’m working out how old a child is, I just subtract from 14 instead of 13. You should do the same thing - it’s really easy to calculate once you get the hang of it; just add an extra day onto each age group! Then your elders will correctly show their age when they get there, which makes life a whole lot easier!
Well yeah, that's exactly the thing that is just too much for my math-hating brain 😂 I like to just look at the age bar and know their age immediately.
@@Marticore 🤣 Well it’s the same thing as you’re doing now (subtraction) except with one day more in each life stage. There’s no more Maths than you’re currently doing! So if it shows ‘8 days remaining’ for a child, they’re 6 not 5.
This style of video kind of reminds me of Mumbo Jumbo's two rant videos. (One is about TH-cam taking his channel name away and the other is about Minecraft enchantments.)
I always hated how they set the days remaining for pre-made Sims in Sims 2, omg... I've never known I needed a video like this to watch and discuss with someone, and when I clicked in and the first thing that shows up is BRANDI I literally said in my mind "YESSSSSSSS THAT'S WHAT BOTHERED ME FOR YEARS SINCE I'VE DISCOVERED THIS GAME!" How can she be SO "young" and have a teenager son already??? I just don't like the lifespan in this game, even though I love Sims 2. It just doesn't make ANY sense. To be even more clear: Cassandra IS ON MARY SUE AND DANIEL'S WEDDING PHOTOS and when the game starts she JUST BARELY GREW UP when the couple is days close to becoming ELDERS. That literally doesn't make ANY sense, for GOD'S SAKE!! Honorable mention: The Sims Pet Stories doesn't even HAD ELDER STAGE and had the same adult lifespan from the original game. This means that you couldn't had children very late because your adult Sims simply die from old age when the lifespan bar is full and your children would be taken. And if you had kids even though your Sims had just become adults, they'll not see their children becoming adults anyway. Jesus...
Me? I just grabbed a mod released not very long after the game released & one of the things it let's me control is aging...by "rejuvenating" my sims back 3 days. Yes. I still have this mod & I have it coped on an external hard drive as well (a copy I've needed more than once over the years.) I like your mods & now I just use the old one to tweak things a bit better when I feel it necessary.
I do count lifespan in years and I also have custom lifespan. But I just added that extra day to every stage and always age up my Sims a day before their birthday.
This is fascinating! That 'extra day' (which isn't even counted?) is so weird. I'll be honest; I couldn't even keep track! I know once I have the time I'll be looking into an agespan with at least a slightly longer adult age.
my age system: 1 irl year = 1 ig day I add one extra day (in my age mod) for each life stage since the day they age up at doesn't count towards "days lived" like you said and I don't wanna do math, either example: baby 1+1 days (the game, ACR, SimPE etc will show "1 days lived") toddler 3+1 day ("4 days lived") child 6+1 days ("10 days lived") teen 8+1 days ("18 days lived" - aka they're 18 when finishing the teen age, turning 19 as an adult) and so on also you can customize "days lived" in the "other" tab in SimPE when you have a sim's file open :)
If we wanna go by The Sims Wikia/Fandom site's logic, then by that logic, Brandi Broke's rich in Aspiration Points, but just uh, 'Broke' (Ha ha) in Simoleons. Then that makes me the Pope..
I always play my sims families like 1-3 times and almost every time I make a new family. I can play for 2 hours a day so that doesn't really leave me with much gameplay
The aging discrepancies really bothered me lol. I ended up editing the custom lifespan mod. Babies: 2 days / 1 year. 0-1 Toddlers: 8 days / 4 years. 1-5 Children: 16 days / 8 years. 5-13 Teens: 10 days / 5 years. 13-18 Adults: 94 days / 47 years. 18-65 Elders: 25-35 days / 12-17 years. 65-77/82 depending on aspiration. I tried to blend them so adults could watch their kids grow up and elders could meet their grandkids. I don't usually play with college and I use 1 day pregnancy, meaning pregnancies last about 5 months in game.
Before i learned about modding, I had to convince myself that some people age and become physically elder at the age of 40-50 or something and elixir of life was kinda like how people take care of themselves, if they do a good job, they stay young..., i mean adult longer Which personally, I think we need a mod for that to happen (that some adults can become physically elder faster than others, without failing the elixir of life)
I sends all of my Sims to college when they turn 18 and count the semesters as years to make use of the young adult stage. I also consider Sims to be "middle-aged" when they reach the second half of the adult stage (around 40 days old).
All my elderly sims I put in a group home except don lothario. He got married had two kids and left his wife when they became elderly and went back to old habits. Three days before his expiration, he married Lucy Burb ( Lucy burb is a hot chick who rebel from his strict parents )
Yeah, I get why the teen lifespan is so long in base game-- I play with Phaenoh's lifespan because I enjoy playing with my Sim children and teens, and the average 100 day or so lifespan is more than enough for me to get tired of each particular sim and be happy to see them go so it can't really use a longer adult lifestage, but at the same time the long childhood still makes Sim lives feel so packed with parenting and not enough time for being an adult before kids or being an adult after. That said, I did have one pretty funny family in the other direction where the Sim got pregnant on her first day as a teen, and then when that first child became a teen she also became pregnant on the first day, and that son of hers had his first kid partially through college with a woman living in the main hood, and that Sim just returned from college and his kids are already partway through toddler-hood, while that original teen mom is only 86 days old right now, so she's got plenty of elderhood left. College is pretty long in my hood-- rotations are three days or two college semesters, which means college is pretty fucking long in my hood, but still.
i had no idea this happened.. and it now makes sense why my game times seemed a bit off when i would try for my generation trees. i play sims 4 actively now, and in order to prevent my generation save file from going completely off the deep end, i usually only have aging enabled for certain areas. it's my first generation family, and they had three children; the oldest right now is finally a young adult, while the twins are both now children. both parents have aged to adults, and i'm so worried they aren't going to meet their grandchildren (and considering one of them wants to meet grandchildren for their aspiration, it's a little important i make that happen) whatsoever. i don't want to rush the gameplay of the oldest son and force him into a relationship so he can have a child of his own to fulfill that wish, so this is.. the only way i can really make it all work without buying age potions. i essentially went from wanting a completely vanilla save file (no helping hands from motherlode or other money cheats, no mods, no tweaking for time, etc.), to having to play god in order just to let my generation family have their complete lives. 🥴
tbh I think it's just intended on how much gameplay is in each life stage. In Sims 3 I have baby set to the lowest and toddler set to 5 (which to me still feels too long, I'm gonna try 3, I hate toddlers), children set to 10 because they're awesome, teen set to 14 because they're basically an adult stage and they're okay to play, although it is too long, maybe 10 or 12 would be better
I use a mod that lets me turn sims aging on and off individually. there are better mods that address aging, but this one always worked for me. I usually wont age adult sims up until around the time their first grandchild is born.
Honestly, I always saw aging up at "1 day away" as shortening Sims' lives. I use it sometimes to make a Sim a little bit older.
Marticore, how do you set your own age span in Sims 3? Ive been trying to come up with my own way instead of making things long but im pretty sure the length of aging and how its counted is different in 3 than 2, like it counts how many days they are than have left(?) if im not mistaken cause I know Adults can live up to 90 days or something like that, so I was curious on how you would plan your own aging system in that game to try to reflect real life?
For TS3 I usually go by 2 days = 1 year, so:
Baby - 2 days
Toddler - 10 days
Child - 14 days
Teenager - 14 days
Young Adult - 50 days
Adult - 40 days
Elder - 20 days
This way Sims live for minimum 150 days, so to me that is 75 years, but since elders usually don't die immediately, it can go up to 80+ years lived. Oh, and you need to have lifespan set to "long" to be able to do it!
I like this double lifespan in TS3 because there I only play with one family. In TS2 I usually do rotational gameplay, so I prefer 1 day = 1 year.
I think for Brandi it was more implied that she was a teen mom even though it isn’t technically possible in the game? That was just the vibes I got I guess
Yeah, same, it's sadly pretty common in families with poor income
@@kitkatboard exactly. sometimes we have to ignore game mechanics to the sake of storytelling
With mods, this is possible, and judging by some studies, most likely these mods are based on what they really planned to do in the game before - teenage pregnancy. It's just that later Sims began to be made more childish and all this was cleaned up. Apparently, alcohol was also planned there. No wonder the restaurant has a function to order a drink. Obviously, there should have been more than just water, although why the developers didn't at least shove the juice in there is not clear
I mean, apparently, when the developers played the characters during the testing and development phase of the game, teenage pregnancy was possible. And they were clearly acting out Brandi's teenage years and most likely she was pregnant and gave birth in her teenage years. By the time of release, this function had been cut out, or rather simply turned off, silenced in fact.
According to the research of some players, the Inteenimater mod is essentially based on the code or partial code of the game itself, i.e., in fact, the creator of this mod did not make a new one, but included what was originally in the game. Teenage pregnancy and the division of adolescence into 2 parts. The first 7 days are a teenager, and the second are in fact already a young age, as in Sims 3, when a teenager gets functions like an adult, can move, get married and have children. And it was clearly in the game, as Sims 2 fans found a screenshot from the beta version of the game, which was leaked online by the developers before the official release of the game to show approximately what kind of game it will be. And in this screenshot, Brandy is with her future husband, they are teenagers, but he proposes to her. That is, initially it was possible. Inteenimater just turned it on.
The crazy thing is, is you have a 2nd child when the 1st child becomes a teen, by the time the 2nd child becomes a teen, the 1st will still be a teen.
I kinda like this cus I like to play my child sims together.
@adam cecic PFFHAHA
@adam cecic wha... What???
@adam cecic No but maybe it's closer to be an elder
Yeah that's ridiculous. That's why I sent my teens to uni with 5 days left so that they become young adults
i always though lifespans were shaped as they are based on how they feel looking back. You don't remember much about being a toddler, childhood went by fast, but you have a lot of memories from your teen years etc etc
I dont subscribe to that theory. The game lifespan simply makes no sense, they had to do this to speed up time, so people dont waste too much time on a single generation but then again its still broken in a way. They tried to fix things with the University where you send your sim to University play so it ages up when its done and not be a teen like a sibling when it comes home, or better say if it would stay home as before the EP existed.
Anyways
I remember lots of things from my 3rd year onwards, I even have weird memories when I was probably before 3 ...
Its a blessing having a photographic memory or what even is called but also a curse since I wish some things I forget because they are bothering me.
But what also bothers me are people who seem way to lobotomized to remember anything.
My mother forgets what she said minutes later let alone what she told me when I was a kid ... So we always argue over this, we have a agreement then she breaks it simply by forgetting or misremembering crap, often she is projecting a lot too. She did me harm I lost count how many times. Like we would have a legal meeting in a court and she didnt come, I was a minor and she needed to be there representing me as a only parent otherwise the case is dissmised ... she was that empty headed that she "forgot" and came up with an excuse that she had to work that day even tho she wasnt even employed at the time.
I don't know how she even manage to have a job, life of any kind with such a bird brain. She always had luck meanwhile me I suffer ever since I know for myself.
She isn't the only one like that tho. I even as a kid started recording people conversations so I have proof that I am not crazy and that they are wrong ...
I’ve always imagined Sims as humanoids rather than humans, so I’ve never really cared
Humanoids who can't keep their pee in!
@@dundee6402 The fact that they have a bladder motive but not a colon motive implies that their digestive systems convert all of their waste into liquid, which is more evidence that they’re not exactly _Homo sapiens_
Tbh I think that's the point, especially since they're called called Sims tbh
@@EnigmaticLucas that's obviously because the developers didn't want Sims taking a dump on the floor in public every time the motive goes down lol
@@TheTrueDaniel yet it still remains that they only pee :p
I don't consider the in game age as actual age. For me it's symbolic, like a story that cuts for example when a person is like 40 and continues when the sim turns 80 or something like that. Since their lifes are so short and we can't spend every single day of their life with them for me how we see their life is more like a diary, consisting of only the more important moments in their lives and their actual age isn't really that relevant to me.
It's like in a tv series. You see events and not everyday life. I like that thinking ;)
@@Sims2Idea EXACTLY
I don't count their ages either. I'm fine with them jumping from their 30s to 50s because that's how they look like.
Besides counting years might lead to very creepy events such as a 16 year old teen dating with a 20 year old "teen".
To deal with the short lifespans I just turn aging off until I feel like they've lived long enough.
Same here. And for the teenage lifespan: I send them to college when they are 7 days from adulthood, and spend to 3-day rounds with them in college. That way they turn into adults at the same moment but they are not teenagers all the time. Maybe they should have introduced a "middle aged" stage or so? In which your Sims are not old yet but their breeding days are more or less over (especially as a female) :-)
True. For example like realistically every couple argues, more than ten times. But if you want to portray the sims relationship as healthy then you don’t let them argue, maximal 1-3 times. If you want to portray it as bad and unhealthy then you let them argue like 7+ times which realistically isn’t a lot but for the sims it is bc they don’t live that Long
I find it funny to hear people say the teen age lasts too long when I find it to go way too fast when I'm actually playing. I feel like I never get to have the full teen experience of going out on the weekends, having get-togethers, having a part time job, and having teenage flings. Maybe it's just me since I lived a very boring teenage life. Also the teen voices just crack me up (no pun intended).
I feel the same, I just turn off aging temporarily to do extra quality of life stuff
@@hannahbandit99 how do you turn off aging
@@randomyoutubeuser53462 ctrl + shift + c then type in "aging off"
Because young adult as a non optional life span didn't exists that time (not optional life span)
Yeah the same for me too unless I put them through university. (Which I think halts their aging so that they turn into adults only when they graduate in sims 2?)
But even then the experience feels so short and incomplete to me
4:50 I never understood why some of my birthday parties were a hit and then all of a sudden became a disaster lmfao thank you for this
I always thought of Sims as humanlike beings that live in some alternate universe or on another planet! To me the wonky life stages are just part of their reality. Along with aliens that impregnate males, growing up in a shower or self-produced confetti, Matchmakers who can summon Sims out of the sky, *insert long list here*! I've never understood the appeal of mods that make the game more "realistic" because to me that takes away the essence of what the Sims are. I deal with real life every day, I don't want it in my Sims game! Haha!
I know! The Sims 2 was so chaotic I love it
Could not have said it better!!
👏👏👏👏👏
I am a generational player, currently on my 18th generation in Pleasantview. I absolutely love the lifespan in the sims 2. I like that it gives me complete control over all the aging in my town. I keep a binder with all my sims and write down the order in which my sims are born as a reference. I rotate my families so I can never get bored.
Well, kinda same, but 18 generations? Damn!
@@Marticore I just really love that town! So many storylines to begin with so it’s easy for me to get sucked into the drama.
I’d love to see what your sims family trees look like 🤯🤯🤯
I prefer just using the aging on/off cheat and let my sims age up when I’m ready for them to, because I want to spend more time with them in each life stage.
you would do well with the real life mod on mod the sims.
What cheat?
@@randomyoutubeuser53462 in the game you open up the cheat window (press ctrl shift c) and type “aging off” without the quotes and it stops your sims and pets from aging until whenever you turn it back on by typing “aging on”
Same tho it's in TS3
Same. I toggle it off once they're close to the next stage then play with them until I feel ready to take the next step. When it comes to video games I like to take my sweet time and get attached quickly, so if I played without the cheat this game would be a little sad and stressful for me. I recommend the ' Individual Aging ON/OFF' mod by Monique.
Me: sad my adulthood ends in 4 years and I will be an old hag.
😂😂😂 But it's a ridiculous age to be considered an elder! Glad to see people of very different age watching my channel though :)
@@Marticore well I find you amusing, entertaining and informing. I played sims 2 in college and have such fond memories of it. And just realised I did my math wrong. I AM 35. So 40 in 5 years! Slightly less sad
@@FeliciaZezili im already 41 and don't feel any difference between 35 and 41, but with 35 you are not too old yet.
@@kali6753 good to hear! I will remember to keep an optimistic outlook. Life will not end at 40
@@FeliciaZezili Thanks. No matter how old i am, Sims 2 has always place in my Life. :o) ..by the way.. good luck.
When you send a sim to college, and they age to an adult, then elder, even if they’ve been through all 24-30 days of college, it still says: Elder (Is 54 days old)
You're right! It doesn't make sense at all!
I started following Pleasantsims' aging system a few years ago, and I much prefer it to how Maxis set everything up. 14 days is way too long for teenagehood in my opinion, and three days of pregnancy is absurd. I like having the chance for siblings to be closer in age, since a lot of families have a bunch of children in short succession, even if it's more difficult in the short term.
While I do love the aging system I follow, I do reminisce sometimes about the days where teens were teens for so long, and the younger life stages were still really fun to play around with. I used to take a lot more time customizing my toddlers, children and teens, since they'd be that age for longer, and it was fun to dress them up and make them exactly how I wanted. Nowadays, the age span is so short it's way too tedious to put time and effort into little Jimmy's winter outfit, since he'll be an adult in a few rounds. I also sometimes miss the three day pregnancies, since it felt so exciting watching that belly pop and seeing them slowly progress and change. There was time to plan out the nursery, have family over to see the pregnant sim, and really enjoy the process.
All in all, this video was a trip down memory lane! Wonderful job, as always!
The fact they even coded different candle numbers for different life stage kind of blew me away!
Wow I never knew you weren’t supposed to not wait until 6 pm of the day. Sometimes I age them up as soon as possible because I‘m tired of their life span and sometimes I wait until 6 pm with the birthday cake. This is all a very strange system I‘m thinking about getting a mod to change the days of a life span.
I just make my life easier by typing aging off and aging on whenever i want to. I get too attached to my sims to let them age and die, to be honest.
The pet live span is just the worst. Pets living as long as they owners just makes no sense
Pets live about 35 days, how is that as long as their owners? :D It's too long anyway, but it's nice to have pets around longer than in real life.
Ah sorry I phrased it wrong. I meant it more as in if a teenager gets a pet it can live until that very sims become an elder wich I find very unrealistic. I mean in real life that would be amazing but if you play as a dog breeder in the sims you don’t get to see very many generations without the household constantly being full ;D
@@mayg9933 There is a way to make them have a shorter life span. Or I am making confusion with Sims 3. Try searching for it on the settings or for a mod.
@@thtvh1 yes there are mods (Gladly) but the game itself don’t let you change it. That’s only sims 3 as much as I know
@@mayg9933 Oh sorry. I hope you found it!
based on pregnancy lasting 3 days i always count a sim day as 3 months
But then the seasons are 12 months long... 😂
There are mods to make this so lol
I’ve been playing this game since 2004 and I never noticed that damn number of candles thing toward the end!
This is the first video of yours that has been recommended to me! Glad it was!
aging has always been SUCH a struggle for me in this game, lord. back when i didn't know about mods and custom age spans, i used to feel SO stressed having to hurry with the baby making otherwise every child born into a family after the first one would end up growing up with irrationally old parents. i did enjoy how long the teen stage was, but not at the expense of the adult one. now i have a custom lifespan very similar to yours and i count days as years as well, but even that is kinda complicated with the way the game works. a huge issue for me is this "sims can/should age up a day before they actually would" thing, i never wanted to age sims up before it said 0 days but i did use to want to throw birthday parties. i haven't in a very long time though, i've been brought off it even if i now have mods to fix the double aging afterwards, i just can't be arsed now. it has always made me so nervous! also, i have never used the elixir of life, i know the developers meant it as a way for aspiration to influence lifespan but i am so glad they ended up making it optional in the form of a reward object. i do not like using most of the reward objects, they make the game too easy/unrealistic for someone who plays like me. and don't even get me started on uni - i wish i could have my teens live out every single minute of their teens before i have to send them to uni. ugh, all of this struggle. but it's still worth it for the best sims game!
For me the only part that is actually bothersome is the ridiculously long teenager lifespan. I don't really care about the "extra day" because I always age up my sims right after the 1 day away notification. To count the age of my sims I simply subtract the days lasting from the number of days the next lifestage represent and add 1.
i really wish sims 2 had that young adult life stage. I wish there were more life stages in general tbh. Having only like 5 or 6 doesn't cut it. theres technically 8 or 9 in the real world.
I never realised how messed up the ageing system is until I started watching Cindy/Pleasantsims’ LP. Now I use mods to make the teen life stage 8 days and the Uni years 2 days each, also totalling 8 days. Then for the adults, I give them 9 days back using the Elixir of life which makes their total life stage 37 days. Seems to be working so far for me 🙂
The "they just turn into an old hag and die" part killed me!🤣🤣🤣
I just turn the ageing off as soon as I get the pop up that its time to by a birthday cake. Hold the party next day and turn ageing back on while blowing out candles. No more trying to time blowing out candles to ageing. Plus I use a long ageing mod too, but turning ageing off made throwing parties easy because I often hold them at 7-8pm and everyone is nearly always at home.
I count each day as 6 months and also use a 48 hour pregnancy mod and play 8 day uni.
Basically modded the heck out of ageing.
Hey, same! 2 days = 1 year and I made pregnancy 36 hours with 8 day uni. I think I need to make the overall lifespan shorter though haha Adults that went to college are 22-65 years and Elders 65-85 and I'm realizing now while realistic, it's just gonna make getting through rounds longer. Letting them die of even old age is hard though lol not ready to let them go.
@@Juskaey My Young Adults are aged 18-23 which is why my adults (23-60) have 37 years (74 days) I looked at 36 hour pregnancy but it felt a bit too short for me.
Even though I have 8 day uni I actually give them 10 days (5 years) so they can go on academic probation twice or have a couple of days off to have fun. Basically a gap year if they did well at uni. I play YA as a life stage not just as uni students. So not all of them will even do uni. I play round of 5 days (to the season) But I am a slow player so it doesn't bother me. This was originally for my custom hood but I even play my Ubber hood on this same time scale.
@@joandsarah77 I have so much trouble picking out a lifespan. Sometimes I feel things are moving too slow, other times too fast haha I'm constantly changing my mind. I've also considered having all my sims do YA as well, have had the mod sitting around. Less age editing to worry about. I was also doing 4 day rounds/seasons for a bit but I think I'm going to go back to 5. Getting a feel for everything with Pleasantview while I build my first custom hood.
I made my own custom lifespan too, with every day as one year and the 18 hour pregnancy mod. I do consider the last day to be a phantom day, because in SimPE it does count it as day "zero" and it makes aging up a bit easier for me. I'm pretty lenient on when they actually grow up, as long as it's before 18:00 aging next day so their age in the new state remains correct. I just think to myself that some people go a little faster, while others go a little slower. The phantom day made aging up very relaxed for me.
I track their ages in an excel sheet. My lifespan gets them to very old, my preference is to age them up at age: baby 1, toddler 4, child 12, teen 18, adult 70, which means with at max. elders can get to be 100. And this is how I use the phantom day: if my child is one day from becoming a teen, he is 12 (on that phantom day). I organize a party when convenient (usually immediately). Then I age him up. He is still 12. Then proceeds to age up to thirteen normally at 18:00 the following day.
Because I added that phantom day to each stage to do this, he counts in the game as 7 days from age up. So it's not that hard to count for me, I only need to retract one day. I just rely on my sims tracker more. Which also has a tab to check the amount of sim days against the age. Handy, because I make mistakes sometimes.
I also use the phantom day for teens to send them to college. In college, every two days make one university year. So for each one day I play in regular hoods, I play two days in college. The students age up accordingly: one year older every two days. As they can get pregnant etc in college, family members also age only once every two days. When they return to the hood, I correct their in-game ages to match the one I have noted.
I actually always age them up by cake (with or without party) after 6 pm the day it say "X will age up tomorrow", so the number of days for Elders make sense.
I personally think of years in terms of seasons rather than days, i.e. when all four seasons complete that is one year.
My sims live for a very long time. 😁
I use my own lifespan mod and I adjusted it so my Sims always age up in that way you said makes no sense XD
But I age them up right after that notification their birthday is one day after, so there is no thing like aging twice during one day
Cool! I could easily just adjust my lifespan to that and try not to forget about their birthday, but it's all about counting age by subtraction that would be more difficult for me then.
@@Marticore Yeah, counting my Sims' age was confusing to me at first, but now I'm used to it. But for my adults I substract that one day actually, because in my system teens are gone from families for 4 days when they go to college and my adult stage lasts 42 (43 technically, but you know), so if Sim went to college it should be 38 for them and with Sim Manipulator I can substract only 3 or only 5 days so I just figured out I can substract that one day extra too and my adults age up the same way as yours
You can subtract whatever number with InSimenator (there's the groceries bar)! For age manipulation, I prefer the InSim hourglass.
I have the days arranged so it adds up to 54 days as an elder by aging my sims up 1 day beforehand. I've also recently implemented something new with college in my rotations to make the later age of sims make more sense. Not sure what I'll do once I get sims that don't want to go college though. So the ages come out like this:
Baby = 0-1 days/years
Toddler = 2-4 days/years
Child = 5-11 days/years
Teenager = 12-17 days/years
Young Adult = 18-25 days/years
Adult = 26-53 days/years
Elder = 54 days/years onward
It was in the end kind of easy for me to get the college implemented in the life span by counting each semester in college as 1 day/year, even though that doesn't technically make sense, so college counts as 8 days total. This way I've managed to work around the illogical nature of the teen life span to make the original life span more realistic.
I imagine the teens who didn't go to college, as shorter young adults. 😅 Teens can move out and drive cars in the Sims 2 so they can be 18+. Here in Finland the youngest age for kids to move out is at 16 and the youngest age to drive is at 18, and they go to college at 19 or 20 (if they did the military year between) at youngest. In sim days, that would still be 6 years time to do uni, which in Finland takes 5-7 years (bachelor 3 + masters 2, total length of your studying spot at the uni is 7 years).
Im just really happy that you can customate the Lifespan in the Sims 3. I like to spend as much time as possible with my Sims
Here’s my age span that I play in my game, I play similar to pleasant sims but with a few alterations, her age span is 1 day= 1 year.
Babies have 2 days (0-1 years as they couldn’t only have 1 day set in sim PE), toddlers have 5 days (age 1-5 years old), children have 7 days (age 6-12 years old), Teens have 8 days (13-20 years old, they can only go to college from age 16 onwards, if they go to college aged 17-19 years old, they must have 1-3 days taken off their adult lifespan to simulate that they graduated from college at age 21-23 years old) this does mean that sims go to school until they are 20 years old (we leave school in the UK at age 16) , adults get 40 days (ages 20-60 years old) and elders I left their lifespan alone because it looked a bit complicated in SimPE but I reckon they have around 10-15 days in their lifespan so I guess they would kick the bucket around 70-75 years old.
Also I have adjusted pets ages in SimPE so the pets won’t live longer than the human sims! But this means pets will die whilst your kids are still growing up, sorry! It’s more realistic this way!
I also hate the sims 2 lifespan! My biggest pet peeve (when I was playing only with the base game) was that if I wanted to create a household that has a sim who has few kids and one or more is a teenager, then the parent would still have those 29 days until elder. So basically the child would have been born when the parent was a child or something?! Usually I send every teen to college nowadays and I fail the sims I feel aren't "suited" to the college life. Hope my explanation made sense!
This video made me realize that this game warped my view on aging as a kid. I viewed days-as-years the same way as you, and thought that 54 years-old was a sensible time to retire and possibly randomly die at anytime.
I love that you do 'story time' in your explanation videos XD
I never play with teens, i send them to college right away, so i haven't really noticed that discrepancy. In my gameplay, where students are also kinda frozen, they come back home to a pretty young parents, so sometimes houses get overcrowded because of neverdying grands %)
Good Point @Marticore. Loved the starting line where you said, "Brandi must've drinking Life Elixir every day with her morning coffee" lmao so hard, but all makes sense what you've said..so, im gonna download your age span mod and test it. I already have a mod in my game what shortens the teens life span to 8 days.
me who always turned aging off because im used to the indefinite life span of the sims 1 found this intresting
I find default ages in Sims are always off for me especially Sims 2. I always end up changing it, either through mods or the game options. Not enough time with each stage to appreciate them, so I always make them longer, except for teens lol.
How do you do it without mods? I'm thinking of doing that myself
@@cristofferhenrique1242 in the Sims 3 and 4 you can just go into options but there isn't really a way to do that in the Sims 2 unless you keep using the elixir of life (a reward you get with aspiration points) or use cheats to keep setting their age back.
I usually go with the in game aging system and sometimes use the elixir of life because I'm too lazy to work out a workable system that's also balanced between Sims (as I like to play rotationally in the Sims 2,) but it doesn't make much sense. It's annoying how most of the Strangetown teens are so close to aging up to adulthood (that's not really related but yeah lol,) and the Beakers and Nervous Subject are too close in age. Also there are some lifetime wants like having so many dates etc or owning a bunch of businesses at 5* which are unrealistic for the lifespan unless you extend it. I also don't like to rush Sims through their life I want them to have a bunch of dates before marrying, and failed relationships and things like that before getting married for realism and maybe get divorced sometimes and re-married and things like that. I also don't want them to go on a date every single day just to achieve the 50 date lifetime wants lol.
1:20 PAUSE is that... the absolutely stunning Joy Despret?!
She's not absolutely stunning, she's an absolute disgrace, how very dare she
idk, I've never counted a sim's age numerically. I just see it as ambiguous life stages, rather than any kind of 1:1 days:years system. To me, a sim that's 1 day away from aging up and a sim who's 20 days away from aging up are the same age, until one of them actually ages up
15 days was way too long for teens! i used your custom lifespan and i love it!
I got back into 2 recently and forgot how the age system was crazy, both my child sim and toddler sim aged up to teens and caught up to their twin brothers who began my playthrough as teens.
2-3 seconds in and I'm already laughing at the "22" joke lmaooo
I dont understand why people think the teen span is too long tbh. The only problem I have is with the adult life being too short. And I use the elixir of life for that. I never needed mods or cheating for it
I'm a fiend, I have set all life stages to be double in length because I hate using the elixir and I hate having my sims die before I even get to know them lol. Otherwise I really don't mind the proportion of life stage lengths.
1:53 these notifications say as shown on screenshots that sim will grow up in a day, not that it'll be their birthday. That and the party part right after give me an idea it's probably supposed to mean "make birthday party for this sim or something"
like.. before 6pm next day
I use a combo of BoilingOil's Slow Aging Controller and a slightly edited version of AlmightyHat's Proportional Gestation based aging mod. The aging mod uses a 1 day = 3 months model based on the 3 day sim pregnancy (so that it lasts about 9 "months"). You do end up with sims that live a loooong time, which is nice if you want to play at a relaxed pace. The aging controller I use mostly because it gives me the ability to stop aging on individual sims. Usually, I will stop the aging when I get the birthday pop-up so I don't have to worry about the sim aging up before they get to blow out the candles. (I just have to remember to turn it back on after!) Simler90 on Mod The Sims has a birthday party fix mod (in the Aging Mods upload) that's supposed to prevent a sim from aging up if there is a birthday party happening, but I haven't tried it.
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I like to play with double life span mod in my custom neighborhood, so I don't really care if they lose a day on their birthday. I feel like the vanilla life span is too short. I like to do many things with my sims and I want them to take their time choosing their partners and having kids when they really want it. I like having deep and meaningful stories, and with the vanilla life span there's really no time to do that.
I tried customizing my lifespan following tutorials but it didn’t work. Rn I allow all sims to have their full life, and give a married couple a shared elixer to age down together some. I hate how long it for teens, bc the parents are often elders before the youngest children become teens if they had multiple children. Its weird.
I edited another aging mod to make mine, it's probably a lot easier than doing it from scratch.
To be honest, i never care about the Sims age, not because it may not matter. I mean this video and other videos on this matter prove that it matters to people, but because i know programming and i can imagine how complicated it would be to just make an aging system. So i just take the bar of life stage as a representation of how much time they have left on that life stage, because it would create this kind of problems and i don't want to make my head hurt thinking about this kind of stuff.
Sims 2 is a crackhead but we still love her
There should be a middle-aged adult stage between adult and elder. I fake it by using the life elixer/potion of youth at the end of the adult stage to reset to the beginning of it, I also give the sim a new look that makes them look older. So they go through the adult stage twice. And for young adults, if they spend time at university I’ll put them back to the beginning of YA when they’re done.
I was literally just thinking about how the adult stage feels too short!!
What we really need is just a better young adult stage. A young adult lifestage that isn't just limited to college and is more than just teen-voiced slow-moving adults to make up for that half of adult life that seems to be missing. We got it in later games but we really needed it in Sims 2 ngl.
When you use the birthday cake, your sim ages two years during one day. The first time when you use the birthday cake (let's say at 4 pm), the second time at the normal aging time at 6pm. There are two ways to avoid that. Either don't use a birthday cake and let your sims age up on their own, or use Monique's individual aging on/off mod (available on mod the sims) to turn aging off for the birthday sim until six pm has past. Edit: Sorry was too quick :). I literally posted my comment two seconds before you explained things. The mod is a good solution though for a birthday party without stress.
i still throw birthdays so long as they want to and always age up a couple hours earlier then use the simblender to age the sim down to their max days.
Omg this is the first time I'm seeing one of ur vids and the detail u put into it is like 👏😮👏. But also... that outro 😂😂💀🥰
this has to be why sims 3 and sims 4 added the prolonged life feature in options
I like playing with longer lifespans, so I usually treat 1 sim day as a month, especially in sims 3
Wow that's really long. Do you usually play for multiple generations?
the lifespan in the sims 2 is soo short so I use the elixir of life A LOT... If I dont have enough then I try to do go on dates to bring my aspiration points up
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That is a very different approach from my. But It might be because I mostly play as one family. (and rotate around that family)
And since game posses Seasons I felt like they lived to short.
Which was always the reason why when playing (or more like testing) Sims 3/4 I was giving them max long lifespan.
Sure I feel like it was affecting how fast you can befriend people. But I liked seeing life of individual sims as a long adventure, and at the adult stage it could allow me to experience middle age crisis - express their change of their opinions, their style and what they consider more or less important, trying to do stuff that they never did.
While in Sims 2 I was trying to stay on the rails.
Still, Sims 2 is the most enjoyable.
Totally agree with you on this, however, it also bugged me that with seasons, a new sim born would become a child before 4 seasons passed. EXCUSE ME? NO?! I immediately made my own age and pregnancy duration mod as soon as I figured out how to, so my Sims now actually experience "real years" (short ones, but at least it makes logical sense now)
It's the same for the Sims 3, teenagehood is twice longer than childhood when it should be shorter (13-19 is less years than 5-12). Fortunately you can customize in that game, but it still makes me wonder what the Sims devs think teenagehood actually means.
I use the 8 day teens mod, but otherwise I stick to the default system. As for birthdays, I never bother with a cake or a party as I find it annoying to do every time, and I'd rather never do it than only do it occasionally.
I play The Sims 2 Basic lifespan for my merged strangetown and Pleasantview and i have the 18 hour pregnancy mod so the Sims can actually see their kids grow up.But i use Pleasant Sims custom lifespan for a custom town where 1 day is 1 Year. if my Sims age up before 6 PM i turn off their aging with moniques individual aging mod. But hearing how other People deal with it is Always Fun!
1:20 mid-drinking water, almost choked
Whenever my teen is 1 day away from growing up, I usually send em to college and play them for how long my session was going to last before moving to a new family.
1:20 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT
Actually... Joy Despret XDDDDDDD
(I love the couch make-out face)
i am HORRIFIED
Jeff the Killer: Sims 2 Edition
@@jkarlie Joy has finally snapped from all of the abuse Juno put her through
Absolutely stunning
I love watching your vids because its so true, its a struggle every sims 2 lover among us have and i think the same way as you 🤩🤩
Sims 2 was awesome! But also buggier than a windshield in Florida.
I just want something that makes senses and that will give me time
I play sims 4, but I can relate: I usually use long lives and I age up my sims when I’m ready
I used to use your lifespan and that whole Elders being 57 when they’re actually 60 thing really annoyed me. So I made my own lifespan where the extra day is added back in. Now I just remember to age them up at 6pm when the 1 day left notification comes up.
Then to count how old they are I still subtract how many days are left, but I just remember that the final day is 1 day higher. So for example, my child span is from 4-12 and they age up on their 13th birthday. If I’m working out how old a child is, I just subtract from 14 instead of 13.
You should do the same thing - it’s really easy to calculate once you get the hang of it; just add an extra day onto each age group! Then your elders will correctly show their age when they get there, which makes life a whole lot easier!
Well yeah, that's exactly the thing that is just too much for my math-hating brain 😂 I like to just look at the age bar and know their age immediately.
@@Marticore 🤣 Well it’s the same thing as you’re doing now (subtraction) except with one day more in each life stage. There’s no more Maths than you’re currently doing! So if it shows ‘8 days remaining’ for a child, they’re 6 not 5.
I just turn off aging so my Sims can be immortal witches who have access to the Elixir of Life
This style of video kind of reminds me of Mumbo Jumbo's two rant videos. (One is about TH-cam taking his channel name away and the other is about Minecraft enchantments.)
I played the sims 2 when I was like 12 so realistic math wasn't really a problem back then😂
I always hated how they set the days remaining for pre-made Sims in Sims 2, omg... I've never known I needed a video like this to watch and discuss with someone, and when I clicked in and the first thing that shows up is BRANDI I literally said in my mind "YESSSSSSSS THAT'S WHAT BOTHERED ME FOR YEARS SINCE I'VE DISCOVERED THIS GAME!" How can she be SO "young" and have a teenager son already???
I just don't like the lifespan in this game, even though I love Sims 2. It just doesn't make ANY sense. To be even more clear: Cassandra IS ON MARY SUE AND DANIEL'S WEDDING PHOTOS and when the game starts she JUST BARELY GREW UP when the couple is days close to becoming ELDERS. That literally doesn't make ANY sense, for GOD'S SAKE!!
Honorable mention: The Sims Pet Stories doesn't even HAD ELDER STAGE and had the same adult lifespan from the original game. This means that you couldn't had children very late because your adult Sims simply die from old age when the lifespan bar is full and your children would be taken. And if you had kids even though your Sims had just become adults, they'll not see their children becoming adults anyway. Jesus...
The toddler at 2:15 looks like a middle aged man already
Me? I just grabbed a mod released not very long after the game released & one of the things it let's me control is aging...by "rejuvenating" my sims back 3 days. Yes. I still have this mod & I have it coped on an external hard drive as well (a copy I've needed more than once over the years.) I like your mods & now I just use the old one to tweak things a bit better when I feel it necessary.
I do count lifespan in years and I also have custom lifespan. But I just added that extra day to every stage and always age up my Sims a day before their birthday.
This is fascinating! That 'extra day' (which isn't even counted?) is so weird. I'll be honest; I couldn't even keep track! I know once I have the time I'll be looking into an agespan with at least a slightly longer adult age.
my age system:
1 irl year = 1 ig day
I add one extra day (in my age mod) for each life stage since the day they age up at doesn't count towards "days lived" like you said and I don't wanna do math, either
example:
baby 1+1 days (the game, ACR, SimPE etc will show "1 days lived")
toddler 3+1 day ("4 days lived")
child 6+1 days ("10 days lived")
teen 8+1 days ("18 days lived" - aka they're 18 when finishing the teen age, turning 19 as an adult)
and so on
also you can customize "days lived" in the "other" tab in SimPE when you have a sim's file open :)
If we wanna go by The Sims Wikia/Fandom site's logic, then by that logic, Brandi Broke's rich in Aspiration Points, but just uh, 'Broke' (Ha ha) in Simoleons. Then that makes me the Pope..
I always play my sims families like 1-3 times and almost every time I make a new family. I can play for 2 hours a day so that doesn't really leave me with much gameplay
1:20 this is going to be my new sleep paralysis demon
The aging discrepancies really bothered me lol. I ended up editing the custom lifespan mod.
Babies: 2 days / 1 year. 0-1
Toddlers: 8 days / 4 years. 1-5
Children: 16 days / 8 years. 5-13
Teens: 10 days / 5 years. 13-18
Adults: 94 days / 47 years. 18-65
Elders: 25-35 days / 12-17 years. 65-77/82 depending on aspiration.
I tried to blend them so adults could watch their kids grow up and elders could meet their grandkids. I don't usually play with college and I use 1 day pregnancy, meaning pregnancies last about 5 months in game.
Before i learned about modding, I had to convince myself that some people age and become physically elder at the age of 40-50 or something
and elixir of life was kinda like how people take care of themselves, if they do a good job, they stay young..., i mean adult longer
Which personally, I think we need a mod for that to happen (that some adults can become physically elder faster than others, without failing the elixir of life)
I sends all of my Sims to college when they turn 18 and count the semesters as years to make use of the young adult stage. I also consider Sims to be "middle-aged" when they reach the second half of the adult stage (around 40 days old).
All my elderly sims I put in a group home except don lothario. He got married had two kids and left his wife when they became elderly and went back to old habits. Three days before his expiration, he married Lucy Burb ( Lucy burb is a hot chick who rebel from his strict parents )
Yeah, I get why the teen lifespan is so long in base game-- I play with Phaenoh's lifespan because I enjoy playing with my Sim children and teens, and the average 100 day or so lifespan is more than enough for me to get tired of each particular sim and be happy to see them go so it can't really use a longer adult lifestage, but at the same time the long childhood still makes Sim lives feel so packed with parenting and not enough time for being an adult before kids or being an adult after. That said, I did have one pretty funny family in the other direction where the Sim got pregnant on her first day as a teen, and then when that first child became a teen she also became pregnant on the first day, and that son of hers had his first kid partially through college with a woman living in the main hood, and that Sim just returned from college and his kids are already partway through toddler-hood, while that original teen mom is only 86 days old right now, so she's got plenty of elderhood left. College is pretty long in my hood-- rotations are three days or two college semesters, which means college is pretty fucking long in my hood, but still.
And you didn't even touch on young adult stage and how those 4 years in college last LONGER than most Sims' entire adulthood.
I treat college as some kind of alternative universe(ity?) 😂
And it's not actually longer, it's exactly 24 days, and adulthood is 28.
i had no idea this happened.. and it now makes sense why my game times seemed a bit off when i would try for my generation trees. i play sims 4 actively now, and in order to prevent my generation save file from going completely off the deep end, i usually only have aging enabled for certain areas. it's my first generation family, and they had three children; the oldest right now is finally a young adult, while the twins are both now children. both parents have aged to adults, and i'm so worried they aren't going to meet their grandchildren (and considering one of them wants to meet grandchildren for their aspiration, it's a little important i make that happen) whatsoever. i don't want to rush the gameplay of the oldest son and force him into a relationship so he can have a child of his own to fulfill that wish, so this is.. the only way i can really make it all work without buying age potions.
i essentially went from wanting a completely vanilla save file (no helping hands from motherlode or other money cheats, no mods, no tweaking for time, etc.), to having to play god in order just to let my generation family have their complete lives. 🥴
tbh I think it's just intended on how much gameplay is in each life stage. In Sims 3 I have baby set to the lowest and toddler set to 5 (which to me still feels too long, I'm gonna try 3, I hate toddlers), children set to 10 because they're awesome, teen set to 14 because they're basically an adult stage and they're okay to play, although it is too long, maybe 10 or 12 would be better
I use a mod that lets me turn sims aging on and off individually. there are better mods that address aging, but this one always worked for me. I usually wont age adult sims up until around the time their first grandchild is born.