ELITE JANISSARY vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT | AoE II: Definitive Edition

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  • The Janissary is the unique unit of the Turks in Age of Empires II. It is a gunpowder unit with high attack and melee armor.
    Janissaries can be upgraded to Elite Janissaries in the Imperial Age.
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  • @omer7101
    @omer7101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Jennisarries need a more historic re-skin and they should add steppe lancers to Turks stable.

    • @inkarnator7717
      @inkarnator7717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I disagree with the steppe lancers. The Turks in Age of Empires 2 are meant to depict Seljuks and and Ottomans, which were not steppe-dwelling peoples.

    • @omer7101
      @omer7101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@inkarnator7717 I disagree too. Tatars represent Seljuks better than Turks now. Steppe war tactics existed in Ottomans army also. Crimean Tatars were an important part of Ottoman Army. You can see nomad lifestyle in modern Turkiye still.

    • @dyaaddin2366
      @dyaaddin2366 ปีที่แล้ว

      totally agree, I love their hats

    • @Greatkingrat88
      @Greatkingrat88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@inkarnator7717 The seljuks absolutely were steppe nomads until they settled down?

  • @serhat4553
    @serhat4553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Janissary need +10 hp and more accuracy.

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And a new model, the "Royal Janissary" one.

    • @serhat4553
      @serhat4553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the cost should be 50 food, 50 gold :D

    • @user-fm9xy9kq2t
      @user-fm9xy9kq2t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even they need more damage since they are powder units. No man or woman could resist more than 2 shots from those Guns.
      Maybe all powder units need double attack and the same range and accuracy to be realistic.

    • @Asterix958
      @Asterix958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@sqohapoe Low accuracy and no ballistics make high range insignificant. I don't think 6 range, 8 range or 10 range make a huge difference for janissaries. Increasing accuracy, giving hp or I think the best is giving 10 bonus damage against cavalries make janissaries viable unit.

    • @keremmutlu2089
      @keremmutlu2089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aynen kandaşım

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    AOE2 portrays the Janissaries as hand cannon units. But there's more of it. They were experts in hand-to-hand combat and also fire and retreat tactics of Cavalry archery. their counterparts in the cavalry are known as Sipahis. the game should've included them as a trainable character.

    • @DanielBlue
      @DanielBlue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      an upgrade that replaces the Paladin

  • @renzoraschioni3886
    @renzoraschioni3886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The missionaries did insanely well, if we consider they're unarmed priests against 15 élite soldiers armed with arquebuses

  • @sharilshahed6106
    @sharilshahed6106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    9:20
    When the Winged Hussars arrived

    • @yusufuslu831
      @yusufuslu831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But magyars perished in mohac battle

    • @Howardax
      @Howardax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      COMING DOWN THEY TURNED THE TIDE

  • @dacution
    @dacution 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Definitely an underrated unit. Janissaries perform well vs archers and decimate melee units in large numbers.

    • @Asterix958
      @Asterix958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Janissaries is more expensive than all foot archers and they lost all of them. Also archers don't use any micro. You can escape janissaries bullets very easy because gunpowder units don't have ballistics.

  • @PeterWhittam
    @PeterWhittam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Janissaries: Who are you?
    Conquistadors: We're you, but better.

  • @Dripikdrippydipsdropkicks
    @Dripikdrippydipsdropkicks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I won't lie. Flaming camels caught me by surprise

  • @iqbalvilglez.7305
    @iqbalvilglez.7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Janissaries in AOE2: Useless and expensive.
    While in AOE3: Authentic chads, no european infantry or cavalry withstand them and are very cheap depicting their great power.

    • @ateium2409
      @ateium2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Useless and expensive ? Get a huge mass of them and see them wreck Calvary . Use Huszars as meat shield in case you are insecure

    • @perrypougins379
      @perrypougins379 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ateium2409 knights are still a great counter

  • @neacomicwriter93
    @neacomicwriter93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Turks should be switched to the same architecture of Cumans and Tatars.

    • @michaelstekelenburg3689
      @michaelstekelenburg3689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The one Turks have represents the Middle East. So? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @neacomicwriter93
      @neacomicwriter93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michaelstekelenburg3689 in fact Turks should be named Otomans since Cumans and Tatars also were Turkic tribes

    • @wanderhund8883
      @wanderhund8883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@neacomicwriter93 but the AoE2 turks also represent the Seljuks and cumans & tatars are turkic but nit turkish but turks are both

    • @neacomicwriter93
      @neacomicwriter93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wanderhund8883 I just wish each architecture has had at least 3 common civilizations. For example, i would love to see a third african civilization

    • @wanderhund8883
      @wanderhund8883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neacomicwriter93 thats true, but what about Imdian arcitecture

  • @burtreynolds4577
    @burtreynolds4577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice! a Heavy anti Heavy unit with bonus against infantry and a little bit against archers, nice day mike!

  • @superfrycook6360
    @superfrycook6360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:50
    Cataphracts: Payback time for conquering Constantinople!
    Janissary: Noooo! Guns beat heavy armor and we are the best!

  • @durdukyeretahrik
    @durdukyeretahrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With full stacks (or at least 30 units) and a bit micro this will look alot better for jannisaries.

  • @VonKrauzer
    @VonKrauzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yeah, these guys make Genoese Crossbows look like a damn good unit.

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they do let Teuton bombard towers fire 3 cannonballs tho

    • @penus7639
      @penus7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qwsa283 nah I main italians and if you get the right composition ur good. Hussar+genoese+ hand cannons and u basically win cuz they can't do anything. I just 1v2d a duo today in arena, in arena they're disgusting since you can fast castle and get 2-4 TCs way earlier whoch gives them a huge advantage really. Although none of that would be possible if it weren't for the cheaper advancing cost. Genoese are viable against high hussars and generally really good makes when combined with hand cannons/arbalests and hussar as they cover for each other and you also achieve a synchronized economy, with not much excess of any resource. The only problem with genoese is their inability to go against cav archers without anything, where hussars don't even cut it as cavarchs just kite. They need extra range and a little speed and theyll be op, but yeah way better than janissaires anything-wise when the costs are considered. Keep in mind foot archers also get extra pierce from the unique tech which also makes them better against skirms. The real sht unit that should be buffed is condo

  • @TheTungdil2
    @TheTungdil2 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still amazing how quickly the samurai melt unique units

  • @the100radsstalker93
    @the100radsstalker93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine the gold that is needed to summon a sqaud of 10 Jannisarries.

  • @samraa1878
    @samraa1878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ?????
    Why is there discription of rattan archer 00:08

    • @MikeEmpires
      @MikeEmpires  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I messed this part of the editing. Sorry. Fixing it next time.

  • @MrDibara
    @MrDibara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know the Janissary's new picture was like the Rattan Archer. Nice! 👍🤣 kkkkkkkkkkk

  • @denislavdochev3783
    @denislavdochev3783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:21 - then the winged hussars arrived ❤️

  • @moaangol5915
    @moaangol5915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Conclusion, Elephant series are the strongest!

  • @denislavdochev3783
    @denislavdochev3783 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Janissaries' power is not in open area landscapes. In tight sections when several gunners are focusing on one target after another they can be hardly reached and even harder slain. If they gain some territory and step back when facing the opponents while shoot after complete reloading, they can't help being victorious.

  • @hainhcuong3118
    @hainhcuong3118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like and already subbed :)))
    Btw there is something wrong with the first fight u know :))

    • @MikeEmpires
      @MikeEmpires  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My mistake. Sorry about that. Won’t happen again.

  • @ryankaiser2702
    @ryankaiser2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if he could ever make shotgun janissaries work? Because we’ve seen rapidfire done enough times.

  • @tsarssa
    @tsarssa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Definitely needs a buff, of some sort. It's almost the worst and most incapable unit.

    • @danielkubicek9108
      @danielkubicek9108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they need no tech to be effective, can damage buildings MUCH MUUUUCH BETTER THAN ARCHERS, RANGE is quite K, can do serious to group of infantry when massed. So they can be good. They just added OP civs without adjusting the Janissary, that's all.

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:20
    You know what's coming, don't you?

    • @michaelstekelenburg3689
      @michaelstekelenburg3689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s ridiculous. Even Magyar hussars? That’s even against history.

  • @serbulentsenturk1326
    @serbulentsenturk1326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mike, i have a cool idea.. i really would like to see you test unique units with their castle age strength.. it will be very interesting and helpful and will be very different results ..

    • @SUIK0TSU
      @SUIK0TSU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this please

  • @koolguy751
    @koolguy751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11 The first battle is Rattans vs Lonebowman apparently.

  • @jamesgadd5322
    @jamesgadd5322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    rather than 1:1 units, wouldnt it have been better to match unit cost as close as possible to say 15 jannisaries

  • @henrycebula4767
    @henrycebula4767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know they performed well, I still think they are kida weak tho

    • @user-mw2vn7pv8n
      @user-mw2vn7pv8n 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They one thing that's amazing about them is their range, which doesn't really show in this setting

    • @henrycebula4767
      @henrycebula4767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-mw2vn7pv8n yeah, I still think hand cannons are just better

    • @Dogukan737
      @Dogukan737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@henrycebula4767 Hand cannons ARE better. The whole point of Janissaries is that you can get them in castle age. Elite Jans exist only if you have a bunch of Janissaries (Like 20-30) and want to upgrade and push to end the game ASAP (which is a good idea if you are turks.)So they have some purpose, though a buff would be nice.

  • @michaelstekelenburg3689
    @michaelstekelenburg3689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Janissary should be given blast damage and more accuracy by designers. Even regular handcannoners have infantry bonus, but janissary? That’s ridiculous. I feel like they purposefully do not boost janissaries power

  • @ibrahmozer2578
    @ibrahmozer2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Janissary have high attack but his attack speed is too low.
    He have short range than archers at the same time his accurucy is also bad. He has low hp and armor, Moreover he is very slow and expensive.
    I think janissary is too weak.

  • @TMoDDD
    @TMoDDD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peanut shooters vs Crusader full plate armor.

  • @informativeassassin9238
    @informativeassassin9238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still how the heck does archer launch so many arrows with this much speed😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bayutimurchannel5848
    @bayutimurchannel5848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why they not put hat janissary on head them??

  • @madvtecyo546
    @madvtecyo546 ปีที่แล้ว

    The war elephants lol

  • @juonryu2nd
    @juonryu2nd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:26
    i'm sure to win because my speed is superior

  • @joangibranramirezcarrizale5778
    @joangibranramirezcarrizale5778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    WTF
    THEY win against Teuton knigt, berserker and Jaguar warror?

    • @Redjoy123
      @Redjoy123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A bit surprising, but a bunch of AoE is Rock-Paper-Elephant. Paper beats Rock, Elephant beats EVERYTHING, Rock can beat Elephant if fired from handguns from 100 soldiers.
      But yeah, gunpowder bonus against infantry... IT"S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

    • @ashg9023
      @ashg9023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hand canoneers have big bonuses against infantry

    • @joangibranramirezcarrizale5778
      @joangibranramirezcarrizale5778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ashg9023 yeah
      Hand cannoners for the bonus,but the jannisary dont have that bonus

    • @AmmarFarisA
      @AmmarFarisA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janissary is more resilience than Hand Cannoneer, but Their infantry attack bonus is reduced

    • @r.ignaciomeneses2935
      @r.ignaciomeneses2935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AmmarFarisA Janissary don't have bonus against infantry, but they have 22 atk and that is their only strong point (they have also good range but the poor accuracy reduces that advantage a bit)

  • @aydin29346
    @aydin29346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Janissaries should not be used alone, they should be preceded by hussars

  • @Rall707
    @Rall707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These tests don't look like equal resource per side.

  • @Pangui008
    @Pangui008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:15 I've seen more accuracy in Windows Diagnostics Tool

  • @justlikeit417
    @justlikeit417 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf ?? Why is it Rattan Archer in the info ?! 0:10

  • @canergacal6430
    @canergacal6430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how can i test myself

    • @malik2709
      @malik2709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1. Go to the Scenario Editor
      2. Make new custom map
      3. Build an arena so the units cant get away while making a video (optional)
      4. Put some units
      5. Click "Test" on the menu

  • @Socccerer
    @Socccerer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is pretty pointless if you just match them 15 v 15. You have to take cost into account

    • @mnmmnmm
      @mnmmnmm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'm pretty sure cost efficiency is not really the point of the video; more so how population efficient they are, which does actually matter in long team games where resources are in abundance

  • @muhammedomerkaplan474
    @muhammedomerkaplan474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They didn't have Accuracy buff

    • @muhammedomerkaplan474
      @muhammedomerkaplan474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were shooting with %50 accuracy. But now they have %65 Accuracy which is better. However there is still a lot of luck here

  • @Felipe_XIV-XVI
    @Felipe_XIV-XVI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The royal jannissary should be the only one. 😒😒😒

  • @MaxHohenstaufen
    @MaxHohenstaufen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im here within 30 min b4 1000 views.

  • @JesusisourLordandSaviour
    @JesusisourLordandSaviour 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Knights best

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    With 60F and 55G, Elite Janissary is a terrible unit (cost/performance). They have terrible accuracy and nowhere to shine. Very hard to mass them due to their cost and is one of the slowest units in the game. Turks have no real threat other than bombard cannon and early hussars. This is an early imp civ, which is terrible in castle age and late imp. As an opponent of Turks, just swarm your pikes and skirms and hussars and they are useless, you don't even need your elite or other gold units. They are the only civ that entirely depends on gold, if you wall-block their gold, you can easily win against them. That's why people prefer Turks in Arena, where every player is secure and lame-free until 20 min. They are unplayable in any map other than arena, gold maps or black forest.

    • @Dogukan737
      @Dogukan737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are far from terrible in castle age if you are able to mass Janissary with a few Mangonels to support it. Elite Janissary is pretty garbage. Castle age Janissary is one of the best castle age units hands down. Only the conquistador is at the Castle Age Janissary level. Elite Jan has no real purpose to research unless you have a lot of gold and a lot of Janissaries and want to end the game ASAP (which you should, since you are turks.)
      Of course, you can only consistently do that with Turks on Arena at high level. But on low-mid elos, if you have decent defense you can get to castle age and do really well.

    • @VonKrauzer
      @VonKrauzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anything, Turks should rather use regular HC, bombards and HA. At the very least, those can be amassed pretty quickly and both HC and HA are superior to jans.

    • @satyakisil9711
      @satyakisil9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The frame delay in DE is abysmal.

    • @serbulentsenturk1326
      @serbulentsenturk1326 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tolga tarkan ölmez Their gold cost definately should be changed to 45 gold

    • @keremmutlu2089
      @keremmutlu2089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reis Türkçesini söyleme şansın var mı bana da😂

  • @snouw
    @snouw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check discord! Also love this video!

  • @danielkubicek9108
    @danielkubicek9108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's kind of stupid to 15 vs 15, since every unit has different cost

    • @MikeEmpires
      @MikeEmpires  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not stupid because sometimes, equal population is important. But that’s why we have equal resources series and total resources series on this channel.

    • @danielkubicek9108
      @danielkubicek9108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeEmpires I don't think the population limit would be 15 in most cases. In general, ranged do better when they have high numbers and players kite them.

  • @snouw
    @snouw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love fight 2:03

  • @Dortmund7272
    @Dortmund7272 ปีที่แล้ว

    Janissary is best shit uniq ünite 😁

  • @charger3703
    @charger3703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    top3 worst civ and unique unit. play aoe3 for better representation of ottoman empire. you'll see the real power of gunpowder.

  • @Eldalion99999
    @Eldalion99999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    useless video. Not the same cost nor would you ever use them like this........