Here’s Why the New 2023 BMW M2 Is Better Than You Think

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  • @Anti4skingang
    @Anti4skingang ปีที่แล้ว +5992

    I dont think anyone was mad about the wide fenders at all

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan ปีที่แล้ว +1045

      The majority of complaints seem to be about the bumpers and headlights

    • @Anti4skingang
      @Anti4skingang ปีที่แล้ว +261

      @@Minnevan 100 percent agree

    • @skinnynotlegend
      @skinnynotlegend ปีที่แล้ว +353

      @@Minnevan absolutely.. I never heard anyone talk about the wide fenders

    • @shinobi-zensei
      @shinobi-zensei ปีที่แล้ว +155

      More about the cross eyed tail lights

    • @yamatokawa
      @yamatokawa ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@Minnevan yeah, that bumper looks odd, like every part of it is competing to catch your eye, so they each portrude too much in a non-harmonical way. And the completely square air intakes adds up to the lack of coherence

  • @MrCashMoneyD18
    @MrCashMoneyD18 ปีที่แล้ว +2143

    I thought people were upset about the front end mainly not the fenders. The fenders have been the part of this car since it was shown. The side profile in general is really cool. The bumpers just feel over squared and chamfered. Oh and the rear under the taillights that Doug pointed out is terrible.

    • @UhOhUmm
      @UhOhUmm ปีที่แล้ว +127

      BMW styling is pure whack once they started using "global" designers. But I guess that is the point, make a controversial car and get people to look at it on the street and point it out in the articles. It's as if you couldn't be more obnoxious buying a BMW.

    • @hexgraphica
      @hexgraphica ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Agree, the fenders were the part of the car already when it was unveiled

    • @MrChoklad
      @MrChoklad ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Seems pretty stupid to me tbh, most bmw nowadays look quite terrible, especially those beaver tooth grills, this one I think it's alright, it looks fine, nothing absurd. Some people just love to complain

    • @maksymfedoriaka2851
      @maksymfedoriaka2851 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@UhOhUmm as much as people hate other new BMW designs, this one is the ugliest by far, IMO. M3/M4 grew on me, the SUV stuff I'm not interested in, but even that isn't as bad as the new M2

    • @usaclaimsthemoon4198
      @usaclaimsthemoon4198 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah it’s the awkwardness of the random hard angles that turn me off

  • @Pk1998AMG
    @Pk1998AMG ปีที่แล้ว +738

    I never complained about the fenders, the thing that puts me off slightly is the grill just looks a little too boxy for the rest of the car.

    • @RA-ui8yw
      @RA-ui8yw ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @Abe Lincoln and the tail lights and headlights are miniature and look strange. The whole front and rear end looks like a confused mess

    • @blueazure9658
      @blueazure9658 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sure but I like the grill But the car doesn’t look good in bright colors would look better metallic like gunmetal silver

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The whole car is a hideous mess.
      Because BMW.

    • @Mr.Marbles
      @Mr.Marbles ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it looks like back in the day when the european cars had to retro fit these american bumpers to sell them in the usa. they pertrude so much and look weirdly proportioned.

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This car being controversial just proves that People now hate any BMW no matter what and no matter how small it is what they don't like.
      XM i get, M4 and M3 large Grille i get (though people are used to it and with the M3 Wagon they now even say it looks good)
      Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps (from an Audi Driver where every Grille is gigantic and was hated when they were new)

  • @WubbaDubba5361
    @WubbaDubba5361 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I think the biggest issue people had with it (myself included) is the out of place blocky rear bumper. The rest of the car isn’t too bad looking, but some of the styling cues don’t match the rest of the body. It’s grown on me a bit, but the rear bumper is just too out there

    • @juancruz-jg5pq
      @juancruz-jg5pq ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And excesive added weight( 3800 lbs ) basically heavier than a large audi A6 , 1.000 lbs heavier than a porsche cayman , 400 lbs heavier than previous generation M2 base , 400 lbs heavier than a focus RS. So heavy for a small coupe. Close to M5 weight .

    • @rainmannoodles
      @rainmannoodles ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree. The blocky styling *does* look bad on this car. Doug is wrong. 😂
      It honestly looks like BMW took Polestar bumpers and glued them on. It just does not match anything.

    • @nckidlynch
      @nckidlynch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rear and front is ugly. Side looks OK. That's all I like about the exterior

    • @realgucman
      @realgucman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think rear is fine, but I hate the front.

    • @TheReapersSon
      @TheReapersSon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BMW has had the inmates running the asylum over in the design department for some time now. It's astounding how they haven't made a tasteful looking car since the early 2000's

  • @DerCharacter
    @DerCharacter ปีที่แล้ว +381

    I think the M2 Pro version will be better, the Max and Ultra versions might be a bit too expensive.

    • @Kxji
      @Kxji ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Forgot the Ultra Pro Max S.

    • @Scisca1a2a
      @Scisca1a2a ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Kxji I'm waiting for the Ultra Pro Max S Lite myself

    • @kev7co
      @kev7co ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn companies…. 😂😂

    • @marcusjackson2874
      @marcusjackson2874 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'll wait for the limited edition pink version that plants trees in the amazon

    • @melvrv90
      @melvrv90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ultra Pro Turbo Boost Plus will be the fastest.

  • @416tdot647
    @416tdot647 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    The weight of this vehicle is one my biggest gripes and I'm very surprised Doug didn't touch on this point.

    • @vladimirchervenkov6949
      @vladimirchervenkov6949 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      I’m also surprised Doug didn’t mention that it’s produced at BMW’s plant in Mexico. I’m surprised by this decision since all M cars have been made in Germany

    • @carrama3540
      @carrama3540 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      facts

    • @danieltackett4089
      @danieltackett4089 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Z3M, Z4M, and all M SUVs are not built in Germany. All current 2 Series and many current 330i’s are made in Mexico. As are the Audi Q5, Mustang Mach E, RAM and Silverado pickups, some VW models, and more to come in the future.
      Long before I owned my M2, I had a Jetta TDI built in Mexico. The parts that failed were built in Germany: the rest of the car held up great for 175K miles.

    • @Pahang.bend17
      @Pahang.bend17 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Weight this weight that. Its for safety standards and what does the weight matter if you cant even notice it? This car drives as well as any other tiny m if not the best. Lets all go back to wooden airplanes cause its the lighter option so that must mean they're better...

    • @65hi863dhyu
      @65hi863dhyu ปีที่แล้ว +66

      ​@j you've obviously never raced anything. Nothing kills fun more than extra weight. It's the worst thing to add to a sports car. Bar none. Because transient response. Stop reading the brochure and go to an Auto X. You'll be profoundly enlightened. Pun intended...

  • @realbarries
    @realbarries ปีที่แล้ว +247

    To me, fenders look amazing, no complaints there. The things I don’t like about the car are the front and rear bumpers. Not a fan of how boxy and angular they are. Liked the outgoing M2 bumpers much better. This car will definitely look so much better with some kind of body kit or F/R bumpers… and a aggressive hood too.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Car gains 250kg - 550lb - on predecessor and has a face and arse like a deformed stormtrooper, and he's wittering about the fenders (arches) that nobody has complained about.

    • @realbarries
      @realbarries ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianevans9548 I wouldn’t be too worried about the weight difference if I actually had the money to buy one. Bumpers need some work 100%

    • @jreyes2464
      @jreyes2464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianevans9548 it is 300 pounds no 500. You have to take into account that it is the same drivetrain that the m4 but still it is smaller and it should weight less than the m4.

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That, and BMW's new coupes look like a Mustang from the side. This one still looks BMW-ish but the 4-Series and 8-Series look more Mustang from the side.

    • @bradenmchenry995
      @bradenmchenry995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianevans9548 it’s not 500 pounds 😂😂😂 old M2 Competition weighed 3,600 pounds this weighs in the mid 3,700s

  • @RileyNewcomb
    @RileyNewcomb ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I drove a 2019 M2 comp Manual and it drove like an absolute dream, I can only imagine how this new 6 speed will feel, pulling up hills cracking through the gears was just amazing

    • @flagtaker6431
      @flagtaker6431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure it's basically the same.

    • @RileyNewcomb
      @RileyNewcomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flagtaker6431 we shall see

    • @easyaussietarget3355
      @easyaussietarget3355 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are beasts
      So good to drive, very balanced and the manual gives so much to the driving dynamics in my opinion!

    • @michaelmichaelmotorcycle2174
      @michaelmichaelmotorcycle2174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flagtaker6431 pretty much the same just less ugly

    • @DanikPanterovski
      @DanikPanterovski 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only an idiot would complain about the styling

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech ปีที่แล้ว +521

    Saw one of these at the dealer the other day. Looks pretty good, but the front grill is more rectangular than I expected,but finally BMW got rid of that huge grill.

    • @Tristand09
      @Tristand09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah. I don't go to bmw but when I just went there for the heck of it. I think it looks nice; might buy one later. What do you think of the car overall?

    • @kidstarr100
      @kidstarr100 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I love the side profile. it looks amazing from the side but the front and back just isn't it.

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I may be in a minority here but the snout grille on the M3/4 looks all right in person. It doesn't photograph well but in person it works. This M2 isn't bad but the squared-off bits on the bumper don't really flow. That, and BMW's coupes look like Mustangs from the side.

    • @Tristand09
      @Tristand09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bwofficial1776 I like the m3

    • @kidstarr100
      @kidstarr100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bwofficial1776 I love the grill on the M3/4 but this one one the M2 is just idk

  • @Svall23
    @Svall23 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    my biggest complaint is it’s weight which i’m surprised you didn’t mention (might be a good thing that you didn’t notice it) but it weighs 3800lbs which is almost as heavy as the g8x m3/m4 and it’s heavier than the f8x m3/m4

    • @ericbishop6861
      @ericbishop6861 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      That's because it's literally an m4 with a different face. Same CLAR platform as the other G8X cars. It's only like 6 inches shorter than the M4 and it's an inch taller. If I were to sell my M2C I'd just get the M3 because at least then I have usable backseats to go with my 2 tons.😂

    • @djyoutubo
      @djyoutubo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Its"

    • @topshelfdustin3300
      @topshelfdustin3300 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah it's a whale!

    • @topshelfdustin3300
      @topshelfdustin3300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ericbishop6861 sad!

    • @KingChadKennedy
      @KingChadKennedy ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If BMW was able to make this as raw as they made the E30 M3 it would have been light but people these days want modern amenities

  • @josephcrus370
    @josephcrus370 ปีที่แล้ว +826

    I like how Doug is trying to persuade us to buy the new m2

    • @quantrellbishop9263
      @quantrellbishop9263 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      @@richardbirkenwald811 cocaine is made in mexico its still amazing

    • @porscherain
      @porscherain ปีที่แล้ว +59

      3,800lb just no. Also, how can Toyota take the BMW components in the Supra and build a better shifter than BMW can?

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn ปีที่แล้ว +16

      he failed

    • @chamaldealwis9
      @chamaldealwis9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@porscherainthey supposedly add d a Toyota touch

    • @NoNotThere
      @NoNotThere ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@Anonymous A Toyota outsources their manuals, they don't make them in house.

  • @Jakeyythetr
    @Jakeyythetr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Comment section is full of complainers. This will go down as one of the last great BMWs/sports cars that still uses their iconic straight 6, manual transmission, and real wheel drive with tossable dimensions. Everyone complaining will lust after one of these in 20 years when all we have are EVs and SUVs.

  • @piersyem5253
    @piersyem5253 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    From the feedback I've heard, most of the complaints regarding styling are about the front end. If anything most of the positive feedback seems to be the flared fenders. M2 CS or M2 CSL will be interesting.

    • @Kid_Ellipsis
      @Kid_Ellipsis ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yep, no beaver face but still a horribly weird almost unfinished homemade body kit look.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BMW was going for that *Tonka / Lego* aesthetic I guess.
      ...no "grille", just holes in molded plastic.

    • @BingBangBrine
      @BingBangBrine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shaft9000 yeah the car looks like it was made for grand theft auto v

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Car gains 250kg - 550lb - on predecessor and has a face and arse like a deformed stormtrooper, and he's wittering about the fenders (arches) that nobody has complained about.

    • @flybriur
      @flybriur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Kid_Ellipsis Bingo. Looks like a kinda crappy aftermarket body kit.

  • @2pini18
    @2pini18 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The badge was not introduced a few years ago and is not supposed to look like an old badge. The badge is only available in 2023 as it is the 50th anniversary of BMW's M Division. It is optional on all M cars this year.

    • @gangsterbroccoli
      @gangsterbroccoli ปีที่แล้ว +10

      surprised he doesn’t know this

    • @MitchM240
      @MitchM240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2022 was the 50th anniversary of M not 2023 and you where able to get it last year as well.

  • @gbekkema
    @gbekkema ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Love it where Doug say's that there is no delay in the infotainment, literally while showing the enormous delay and stuttering. Priceless

    • @colbiocin
      @colbiocin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I guess it's all about the reference point.. for sure it wasn't a tesla :))

    • @JACKINBENCAP
      @JACKINBENCAP ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I’ve noticed that in a few videos, always as they are saying “there is no lag”. I wonder if it looks worse on film, a bit like how LEDs look weird depending on frame rate.

    • @artemartemtwo7257
      @artemartemtwo7257 ปีที่แล้ว

      ++++

    • @tuberculelapatate221
      @tuberculelapatate221 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, it's because of the video. Cameras don't pick these screens well.

    • @JaroPivarci
      @JaroPivarci ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's a sell off 🤣

  • @TheBigJebus
    @TheBigJebus ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "it's actually not that expensive!"
    Oh really? That's great I like this car! What is it, like 40 thous-
    "Starts around 65 thousand"
    😐

  • @iancain1348
    @iancain1348 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    “Won’t it fail, won’t it break…and the answer is of course, yes!” Hahaha, thank you Douglas for your honesty 5:44

    • @denisnedeloiu1601
      @denisnedeloiu1601 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      agreed... but I see the small 2L plug in hybrid from MB failing before that...😂

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      BMW 6 cylinder engine is the most reliable engine in the auto industry.
      Toyota put it in the Supra for a reason.

    • @TodorKatsarski
      @TodorKatsarski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TIL that Doug is actually Douglas. It's quite obvious when you think about it, but I never thought about it (and I've been following him for many years already).

    • @gordtulk
      @gordtulk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hassanger8128 they didn’t do it for it’s reliability. They did it because bmw has far more experience wringing power out of an engine. It’s worth noting that it’s not the block that’s unreliable it’s all of the accessories attached to it.

  • @rogersmj
    @rogersmj ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I think you missed a bit on this one, Doug…you did hit on the many good points it has, but you skipped over a couple things. For one thing, it has power levels like the next class up because it *weighs* as much as the next class up, pretty much right in line with the M3 and nearly as much as the old V8 C63. Also, I’ve heard almost no one complaining about the fenders. What I hate is the very upright front end, and while I’m glad they kept the more “normal” BMW grille, they still somehow managed to make the whole front end look ugly.

    • @ruvindap66
      @ruvindap66 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is there an explanation for why a ice car weighs that much? Besides to justify selling a cs version?

    • @iamweasel1022
      @iamweasel1022 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yea, this really annoyed me and seemed a little dishonest. Not to mention the picture of the M3 he showed, was actually the M3 competition, NOT the base M3. Almost like he wanted to prove his point, without showing all the evidence. Really disappointed in Doug.

    • @DoctorSkillz
      @DoctorSkillz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Anyone caught up on the weight issue clearly hasn’t owned a 2 Series of any generation. They are feature filled and put together with quality.

    • @Traxxmaciek
      @Traxxmaciek ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly. Doug mentions the new M2 has a straight6, manual and RWD. Do you know what had that? THE OLD M2 it also in addition had way less weight and a lighter chassis

    • @iamweasel1022
      @iamweasel1022 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Traxxmaciek it’s unforgivable. the new m2 weighs nearly the same as a freaking m3 and m4.

  • @jltgp6221
    @jltgp6221 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Doug is the kind of guy who films a video before his softball game.

    • @Freddy_Confetti
      @Freddy_Confetti ปีที่แล้ว

      Your the kinda guy that makes weak Doug the kinda of guy jokes

    • @rdrewnelson539
      @rdrewnelson539 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard tip darts, manual scoring…

    • @SSruh
      @SSruh ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ritual Victual He's talking to the OP not you

    • @adamzimmerman2464
      @adamzimmerman2464 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ritual Victual yeah we can call him Doug Dedarto lol

    • @SSruh
      @SSruh ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ritual Victual Original poster.

  • @doncarrera601
    @doncarrera601 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I might be the only person who loves all of the exterior styling of this car. And they look amazing when you add cosmetic mods

    • @timeslowingdown
      @timeslowingdown 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah I think the outside looks great too. It's a great balance of old school with some modern elements, I predict it will end up being a relatively timeless design compared to the other BMWs on the market right now.

  • @jegerm6752
    @jegerm6752 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I feel like the wide fenders are actually the car’s best exterior styling. The front and rear bumpers and the headlights are ugly, but maybe they’ll grow on me. The grilles are small for sure, but they’re far from what I’d call “normal.” I’m not a fan for now. I like the interior but I do miss physical buttons. I’m sure this car drives wonderfully, and maybe the styling will grow on me that I’d consider getting it in 3 years, depending on how the lci looks like.

    • @okthen515
      @okthen515 ปีที่แล้ว

      The need a complete overhaul with the LCI to make it appealing.

    • @redlinedrifts69
      @redlinedrifts69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. This car is disgusting and BMW should be ashamed of themselves. Their design team is smoking so much crack

  • @wreckinball11
    @wreckinball11 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    As the second owner of my 2003 M3 I got the window sticker with it. $54,000 in 2003, this car is an M bargain.

    • @dillonsrt
      @dillonsrt ปีที่แล้ว +36

      54,000 usd in 2003 is roughly the equivalent of 88,000 today for those who are curious

    • @MacDaddyC7Z06
      @MacDaddyC7Z06 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      54k in 03 is not a bargain bro

    • @DoctorSkillz
      @DoctorSkillz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MacDaddyC7Z06 he’s saying the current M2 is a bargain.

    • @wreckinball11
      @wreckinball11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MacDaddyC7Z06 the M2 is a bargain.

    • @MacDaddyC7Z06
      @MacDaddyC7Z06 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dr. Skillz I guess I misread but if that's what he means then yes this M2 is a good deal for sure.

  • @dylansweeney1972
    @dylansweeney1972 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I personally think the previous generation m2c is the sweet spot. Great looking car with a real M engine in it sized nearly the same as an e46 with a fairly modern interior. For my money that would be the one to get

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt ปีที่แล้ว +8

      smaller, lighter and had usable rear seats

    • @ihatekpeng
      @ihatekpeng ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Car gains 250kg - 550lb - on predecessor and has a face and arse like a deformed stormtrooper, and he's wittering about the fenders (arches) that nobody has complained about.

    • @blahblahblah1787
      @blahblahblah1787 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@papa_pt I don't know about rear seats but i fit a 6' x 3' tabletop from IKEA in the back of mine with the rear seats down. It's more practical than it gets credit for.

  • @anchoragealaska3104
    @anchoragealaska3104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This car is what every (modern) BMW should be....

    • @Luka23567
      @Luka23567 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pause the video at 3:21…

  • @ogvztjch
    @ogvztjch ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I still think it's weird that this thing weighs nearly the same as the M3

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It having the exact same engine as the M3 might contribute to its weight increase.

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even small cars are getting bigger and heavier

  • @georgidetelinov4357
    @georgidetelinov4357 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    People complain not of the flared fenders, but the strange headlights and tail lights…

  • @georgepapo
    @georgepapo ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It doesn't look bad, it just has a Need for Speed autosculpt body kit.

  • @mikechang6737
    @mikechang6737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BMW fan here, and this car looks absolutely horrible. I have no idea what Doug was smoking before this video.
    I honestly think this thing makes the m4 and m5 look good in comparison. It looks blocky, not fast or sleek like a sports car should.
    BMW's entire design department should have been fired a couple years ago. Its sad because other departments are delivering, the powertrains are great, the cars are handling monsters, they are giving customers what they want, funs cars with great handling, speed, keeping manuals and ability to throw it around... etc.Yet the design are so bad it hurts my soul.

  • @steadyeddy_
    @steadyeddy_ ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I’m at the “it’s not worse than the XM so I’ll take it” stage of my relationship with BMW

  • @RidgeRunner4501
    @RidgeRunner4501 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I’m curious to see what aftermarket bumpers will do for this car

    • @v_stands_for_value124
      @v_stands_for_value124 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It can only get better lol

    • @alexroda7069
      @alexroda7069 ปีที่แล้ว

      No bumper can save this thing

    • @RidgeRunner4501
      @RidgeRunner4501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexroda7069 the taillights are unsaveable most likely but the rest has potential

    • @costafilh0
      @costafilh0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the new CSL has a clue, is that anything is possible! Hard part is to justify spending 5K on a full body kit for this when you can have the previous gen with a light tune and be better the this in every single way.

  • @justinturner4850
    @justinturner4850 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The carbon bit in the “crotch” area appears to be for a 5 point harness. So the harness doesn’t mess up the seat.
    I love that this car exists in a manual transmission. Too bad dealers will probably mark it up to oblivion.

    • @acecombatplayer1
      @acecombatplayer1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      my buddy just got one for "only" 5k over sticker in a stick. not bad considering the hype behind this thing

    • @matthewjudge3763
      @matthewjudge3763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not a limited production car. Just wait a year or two, that's what I did with my last gen one.

    • @Thewinnerscircle_
      @Thewinnerscircle_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not for a 5 pt harness. If it was, they would’ve figured that out on the m3/m4 by now. Also, you wouldn’t want a gap that big between your crotch and where the harness would come up thru that area. That defeats the purpose of the 5th point of safety on a 5 pt belt.

    • @homiefizzle5260
      @homiefizzle5260 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Thewinnerscircle_the same seats are in the M3/m4

    • @Thewinnerscircle_
      @Thewinnerscircle_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@homiefizzle5260 yea that’s why I said they would’ve figured out how to do a 5pt harness by now.

  • @ogloko
    @ogloko ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I love the wide fenders. I actually like it, it looks pretty good. I especially like the front end and that it’s manual.

    • @OGSiX33
      @OGSiX33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but *nobody* complained about the wide fenders. The OG M2 had some thicc hips as well. Doug is just pulling that out of thin air.

    • @Oorakhhye
      @Oorakhhye ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it actually looks great in person. Photos and videos don’t do the car justice.

  • @jtthebrick3
    @jtthebrick3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The fact that this is rated above a C8 Corvette is pretty wild to me.

    • @evanhooper1
      @evanhooper1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Doug don't care about Corvettes unfortunately. They hardly ever impress him. Only the new Z06 got close.

    • @prawdziwyateista11lat50
      @prawdziwyateista11lat50 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's because the C8 Corvette is shoddy for an American car befitting an American car.

    • @evanhooper1
      @evanhooper1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prawdziwyateista11lat50 Thing is Doug isn't impressed by any generation of Corvette

    • @AnotherYoubue
      @AnotherYoubue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The C8 looks like a kit car, Has odd proportions not to mention GM quality control

    • @philipkircher2848
      @philipkircher2848 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doug has always been somewhat biased against American cars. I think he only bought the Ford GT because he knew it would appreciate in value.

  • @kona6451
    @kona6451 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    My 2014 228i was my favorite car I've ever owned. I could only imagine driving this M2. I'm in love.

  • @christopherprose3881
    @christopherprose3881 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    The M2 is practically the ONLY BMW that seems to emulate the Ethos of what BMW meant back in the 80s. It is the spiritual successor of the first M3. They styling is fine, not great, but good enough from most angles. Also, you are absolutely right, those flared fenders make up for all the other styling blunders (read head and taillights) to the point that no one should care. If you want a great little modern BMW, this is the one to buy. Who knows how long it will be around as well? It shocks and impresses me that BMW still makes any car like this. With the "M" division now making EVs (and not great ones), the days are numbered for gems like the M2. Also, cool color!

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I say the Alfa Romeo Giulia is the real spiritual successor to the E36 BMW. The right size, weight and handling focus. BMW has lost its way.

    • @tomciopaluch7235
      @tomciopaluch7235 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      M3, M4, M5, M8 are also brilliant cars much better than the competition from Audi, Lexus or Mercedes.

    • @antekqwe
      @antekqwe ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rlsedition What a silly thing to say in what Alfa Giulia is better than the M3??The handling and driving pleasure they have at a very similar level, and in every other respect BMW is better.

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomciopaluch7235 C'mon now. Some of these BMWs are impressive and others not so much. In general the engines perform better than promised, but the ride is a concern on 3 and 5 series Ms and the grilles appearance is dreadful on the M3/M4. Better than the competition? Depends on what you want/need.

    • @rlsedition
      @rlsedition ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@antekqwe You must live under a rock. BMW steering has received "devoid of feel" complaints by every automotive journalist. Alfa steering is on an entirely different level, as in "great". And the 3 series styling is overdone, especially the M grilles, as many have stated. The Giulia, though several years old now, looks way better than any current 3 series. And that new digital dash looks entirely tacked on and eliminated all the knobs for control of such basics as HVAC and radio. Hasn't anyone at BMW ever driven their cars at speed and attempted to turn up the cabin heat without taking their eyes totally off the road ahead? I'll give BMW credit for powerful engines, but as a total package the Giulia excels. I used to be a BMW fanboy when the E36 M3 existed, but now the Giulia QV is the car BMW used to be - a true driver's machine.

  • @MG-ot2yr
    @MG-ot2yr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I just bought a 2024 M2 a few days ago, its black sapphire with manual transmission. So far its been truly enjoyable to drive, and I like the wide fenders! Yea I agree with the normal grill vs the M3/M4 that looks like a whale shark! I've always had manual BMWs, the one before this one was a 2015 435....and I can say if you're familiar with manual BMWs it does shift as expected, no surprises that I've found.

    • @protectork9831
      @protectork9831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much was it

    • @MG-ot2yr
      @MG-ot2yr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@protectork9831 about 68k

  • @BeastModeXCIII
    @BeastModeXCIII ปีที่แล้ว +42

    this was the best Doug review ive ever watched. honest, objective, and gave the car and manufacturer the credit they deserve while acknowledging the publics knack to over criticize and then recant years later. thank you Doug

  • @jacktodd3768
    @jacktodd3768 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's not the fenders that bother me, it's the front grill/bumper. I love almost everything else about it.

    • @AlexxTehGreat
      @AlexxTehGreat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much better than the ridiculously oversized grilles they've been using as of recent. The grill reminds me of a classic kidney grill in the e46/e90

  • @quirksandfeatures3215
    @quirksandfeatures3215 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Doug the kind of guy who tells everybody he has a Discover Card

  • @craigster1234
    @craigster1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With sales tax - in Canada - this M2 costs $92,000.00. PRICES ARE INSANE!

    • @Luka23567
      @Luka23567 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a 3D printed car

  • @shack2800
    @shack2800 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I went to the only plant in the world that produces these, in Mexico, recently and I do have to say it looks much better in person. Very cool car and seeing how it was built made me think a little bit more of it

    • @elkinrubio3102
      @elkinrubio3102 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you do that bro? Do you need special permision?

  • @Powaup
    @Powaup ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No one was upset about the Fender. The weight was the problem. How come Doug didn’t mention that? 🤔
    It’s fine to be subjective but I really feel like Doug didn’t give us a well rounded review here. No mention on how it stacks up against the Manual Supra, Mustang or Z

    • @areufkingkiddingme
      @areufkingkiddingme ปีที่แล้ว

      I know it’s too heavy just like your mom

    • @gookieboo
      @gookieboo ปีที่แล้ว

      The bumpers, the lights. the grill. The fenders? No one complained about that lol

  • @wolfbane8290
    @wolfbane8290 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    The right angles in the bodywork and the weirdly boxy styling for BMW just give this car a strangely Volvo/Polestar look and not just because of the color. What you said about the excessive hood length is spot on and accentuated by that several inch gap protruding beyond the headlights. Simply put, the lines/proportions just don't flow on this car and the boxiness just elicits poorly executed 80s retro throwback styling.

    • @rizato1
      @rizato1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Car looks pretty good

    • @Shadowx157
      @Shadowx157 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rizato1 Get your eyes, and taste checked.

    • @thedog5k
      @thedog5k ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shadowx157 ^
      It looks so bad XD

    • @robertnicholls9917
      @robertnicholls9917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love it!

    • @rizato1
      @rizato1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shadowx157 ok

  • @BeepasGarage
    @BeepasGarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least the grille isnt gigantic like other BMWs. This is probably the best looking BMW right now.

  • @thisnameistoolong9169
    @thisnameistoolong9169 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The weight ruins it for me. It's approaching M4 territory when i think the two products should provide very different experiences. It should be small, light and raw. But that's just me. They'll probably still sell a ton

    • @Johnnygga
      @Johnnygga ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have you driven the M2? You seem like you’re posting in a way that you’ve compared the M4 and M2 by driving both of them back to back.
      Is this true? Or is this benchmark internet speak?

    • @fortheloveofnoise
      @fortheloveofnoise ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope they sell A ton so I can get one that doesn't run in 10-20 years for cheap

    • @aitorgallego98
      @aitorgallego98 ปีที่แล้ว

      As an Alpine a110 buyer I agree this thing is a whole 1500lbs- 700kg more than my car LOL

  • @imsteevin
    @imsteevin ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I think I prefer the previous version but I'm sure this is great to drive too.

    • @plamenvasilev
      @plamenvasilev ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You'll get use to it eventually. People hates the E60 M5 when it 1st came out. Can you imagine hating the E60 M5? I can't...

    • @inactiveaccount
      @inactiveaccount ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@plamenvasilev the car community just loves to hate until what they were hating on isn’t there anymore, then all of a sudden it was the best thing ever made and it should come back

    • @Oorakhhye
      @Oorakhhye ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s extremely fun to drive and looks leaps and bounds better in person. It isn’t a photogenic car.

  • @elvisvalla3953
    @elvisvalla3953 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for reviewing this car, it is nice that BMW has finally built a 21st century car that I want, 2drs with a manual & no "buck tooth" grille.

  • @rayjoedef
    @rayjoedef ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree...I've owned 5 M cars, 2 of them being M2's. Once you see one of these on the road, most will change their minds. 450hp will be tuneable to 550 with ease. I honestIy can't believe how much car you're getting for the money. I've ordered my bsm/auto and can't wait for it to arrive!!

  • @1huffmani
    @1huffmani ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We aren’t complaining about the fenders, we are complaining about the front end and the rear end. Side profile is decent.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s ปีที่แล้ว +45

    God love them for making this...manual, RWD, not crazy expensive...awesome. If they didn't make it look like it was designed with a ruler, they'd sell them faster than they could make them.

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Car gains 250kg - 550lb - on predecessor. For what reason?

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianevans9548 More and more tech, safety and comfort shit.

    • @jreyes2464
      @jreyes2464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@julianevans9548 dude are you gonna say the same false thing in every single comment ? lmao

    • @bwofficial1776
      @bwofficial1776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jreyes2464 It's a valid question.

    • @marktheshark7006
      @marktheshark7006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right now year and a half wait, and really no allocations just yet.

  • @fuzzycuffs
    @fuzzycuffs ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Flare fenders are awesome. It's the front and back end. Just too boxy that contrasts with the rest of the curves. If it were all boxy or all curves it would work better, but as now it looks like the top half is one car and the bottom half is another.

  • @zeeromaya1562
    @zeeromaya1562 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I purchased one about 14 months ago I love it , it’s manual , very fast fun to drive , small seat in back my 75 lb Golden doodle dog love the seat .

  • @connerowens8831
    @connerowens8831 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Doug is saying EXACTLY what ive been saying about the new m2 for months now. It looks like those amazing classic older bmws that are the real staple of their racing brand.

  • @TacoPotatoMustang
    @TacoPotatoMustang ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I was one of those who didn’t love the new M2 when it debuted…and I still think some of the styling elements are bizarre, BUT that being said, since seeing a few on the road, I do think it looks better in person. Especially in darker colors.

    • @okthen515
      @okthen515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So it still looks rubbish lol. Is a shame I think, this car on paper is amazing. Engine is amazing but the exterior design..... There's nothing wrong with the fenders.

    • @flightevolution8132
      @flightevolution8132 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@okthen515 I like it just fine. Plus the performance and drivability so so damn phenomenal, it makes up for any issues with the looks. You gotta drive one if you get the chance

    • @okthen515
      @okthen515 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flightevolution8132 good for you, honestly if you don't mind the looks this car is truly amazing. I can't afford one myself anyway so my complaints doesn't mean much. I drive a f22 m240i and even that machine with the b58 engine is just truly amazing

    • @juancruz-jg5pq
      @juancruz-jg5pq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Extremely heavy for a small coupe : 3800 lbs . basically close to M5 weight. Even heavier than a large sedan Audi 6 .

    • @okthen515
      @okthen515 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juancruz-jg5pq not ideal of course but at then end of the day, the way it handles is the key that's the whole point of having a light car (chuckable). It is impossible to have a light coupe with all the "luxury" and tech in there. I think unfortunately modern cars have always had this trend of just being bigger and heavier. I doubt it but it is possible that the whole chassis and handling will make up for it.

  • @cameronharvey4746
    @cameronharvey4746 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I adore this car, I think it looks absolutely amazing. And you can not beat a 2 door, rwd, turbo 6 manual. If I had the funds to buy a luxury performance car this is what I would buy today.

  • @AkuNoHana
    @AkuNoHana ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody's complaining about the fenders. The problem is the front grill with horizontal slats that looks like a mockery of itself, and the body lines are an absolute mess. Aspects of the car does not come together as a cohesive package, far from it.

  • @zacisler
    @zacisler ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As an owner of a 23 m240i I can say this car looks amazing. I really don’t know what people are thinking when they say the new 2 series is ugly. It’s gonna grow on all of you much like the current M3 and M4 have. BMW is the only German manufacture pushing the limits with design language right now and we should be rooting for them for taking risks!

    • @Minnevan
      @Minnevan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re absolutely spitting facts. Taking risks is exactly what they’re doing, and it’s unfortunate that so many people can’t take their rose tinted glasses off and appreciate that.

    • @theejpp
      @theejpp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The M240i looks very different from this car. I like the M240i, I don’t like the M2

    • @DescartesRenegade
      @DescartesRenegade ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine thinking that everyone is supposed to like what you like. Get out of your bubble.

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a fundamental difference between pushing the limits and getting it wrong completely, and the public survey results suggesting only 20% of the people liking it shows. For example, running naked on the street is not pushing the clothing limit despite nobody doing that, because everyone else knows it's a stupid thing to do and does NOT do it. Also, no, the 2 series doesn't look good, the more I look at it, the worse it looks. You are still allowed to like it, just like how people are still allowed to dislike it, plain and simple.

    • @ryannatividad3137
      @ryannatividad3137 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of those limits...shouldn't be pushed. WTF were they thinking when they released the BMW IX!? But the 2-Series (coupe) and M2 are I think where BMW should keep going in terms of design. It's not perfect, but I think its simultaneously futuristic and retro BMW. They simplified the surfacing, got the BMW coupe proportions just right, and I like the clean, squared off graphics overall. The rear could use some finessing, but the front has similar lines/proportions to the first gen 1-series coupe, as well as cars like the E30 and E46.

  • @PLpecior
    @PLpecior ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hi Doug! Thanks for the great video, as usual. I've noticed you haven't talked about the back seat at all, and I was kind of wondering how practical it is and if there are any isofix points at the back.

    • @topshelfdustin3300
      @topshelfdustin3300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the back of the new 2 series in general is much smaller than the old 2's despite being bigger...in other words, it's 5'6 and under on a good day

  • @jacksonfrizzell9631
    @jacksonfrizzell9631 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hey Doug! Love your reviews. Just wanted to point out at 10:20
    the door panel lights actually flash red when the door is open to alert other cars coming from behind in traffic. So there is a bit of functionality built in!

  • @michaelpinnow5015
    @michaelpinnow5015 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great reviews. I just purchased this car in the new blue color and I absolutely love it! The new unique look of this M2 is wild, different than everything else and I think fantastic. In person it just works. The driving position is perfect. I owned an 318Ti way back when, I’ve also owned an M135i and newer gen M4 and none of them had the individual in your face looks that this one does. Can’t wait for warmer weather to go enjoy it more. So much tech you will never get bored I must say but the S58, the 6 speed manual and the amazing seats makes this a future classic in my opinion. Love it!!!

  • @jamesmurmurzancone4532
    @jamesmurmurzancone4532 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Doug the kind of guy to wear a tuxedo to a funeral

    • @leeeinfield
      @leeeinfield ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doug is the type of guy to drive a CGT to a wedding in the pouring rain and still wear flip flops.

    • @paulie-Gualtieri.
      @paulie-Gualtieri. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@jwalster9412
      Doug the kind of guy to move into the garage to be with Carrera GT

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +88

    After driving both the 230 and 240 models. I was excited for this little car. The new 2 series chassis is a lot of fun to drive. With or without the M badges. If someone wants and needs a fun car that can also be a GT. These new 2 series models will not disappoint.
    I personally think it's more power than it needs but whatever.

    • @derekgardin1512
      @derekgardin1512 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      3900lbs, thing is a pig

    • @juancruz-jg5pq
      @juancruz-jg5pq ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically 100 lbs heavier than an audi A6 .

    • @surellow
      @surellow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not as long as one my mistake but still HUGE

    • @pilot9412
      @pilot9412 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just bought a Brooklyn gray 2023 230i and I love it! Super fun to drive and the interior/exterior looks incredible. I’m averaging 30+ MPGs too.

    • @mikemayers8672
      @mikemayers8672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tested 230i several times I wouldn’t get that power train

  • @cls63amgwagon34
    @cls63amgwagon34 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I don’t think people are complaining about the box flares or grill, those are great, but just how much the bumpers stick out. Everything else is good 👍🏻 great car

    • @chrismullins8061
      @chrismullins8061 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that the rear bumper looks like its bolted to the ground.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 ปีที่แล้ว

      The box over the rear funder really reminds me of a hirochi sunburst (use google)

    • @vladvulcan
      @vladvulcan ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no CLS 63 AMG wagon. they call it a shooting brake

    • @cls63amgwagon34
      @cls63amgwagon34 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladvulcan I’m aware. Shooting brake and wagon are used interchangeably in a modern context.

  • @sirjoshuafaw
    @sirjoshuafaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought this car brand new and after fifteen miles the check engine light came on and it started leaking oil all over the pavement. My friend but one and after two hundred mikes the passenger side wheel came off while he was driving his grandmother to church. Be careful when buying . My other friend bought one last week and the engine block blew up after shifting into third gear and shot a bolt into his stomach.

  • @jacobyo99
    @jacobyo99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the car that competes best with this car is the CT4-V Blackwing with the 3.6 twin turbo and 6 speed manual

  • @Bpeitz
    @Bpeitz ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "An old school BMW turbo 6 cylinder". Damn, that made me and my E46 feel old as hell.

    • @Ven0mSRT
      @Ven0mSRT ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 I actually smiled when he said about old school turbo))

  • @GreedyGlo
    @GreedyGlo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Beaver tooth grill”🤣 Can’t unsee it now

  • @xBanditzTTV
    @xBanditzTTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing it in full detail now it’s kind of a breath of fresh air to me, yes the rear is blocky but looks nice tho, I recently lost my X5 so I’m hurt atm

  • @felipe_silve
    @felipe_silve ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think your 1st 3 camera shots show its best angles. Looking at it straight from the front or back it looks weird, but from the side or rear 3 quarters, it really looks nice with the fender flares

  • @superregera799
    @superregera799 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    What a stellar recommendation from Doug! I'm very surprised at how good it apparently is. I'm not sold on the styling, but it actually looks great from the side. However, I'd never want to own one once the warranty is up if my AMG is anything to compare it to.

    • @danieldebono7116
      @danieldebono7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why you buy the BSI plan.

    • @costafilh0
      @costafilh0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is this better than the previous gen?

  • @QueensGTO_Viper
    @QueensGTO_Viper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:30 not exactly. Toss all of the screens and the body control modules, bring back port injection and better timing chain guides... what's that you say? just buy and older m3? will do 👍🏻

    • @lucf1431
      @lucf1431 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never seen anyone convince himself so fast to buy an M3. 10/10

  • @Nope-again
    @Nope-again 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I often feel alone in this remark but I think this style is one of the best

  • @Johnnyscarcarereviews
    @Johnnyscarcarereviews ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Flared fenders are AWESOME!

  • @johnm1008
    @johnm1008 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There's a huge difference between an engine that is working hard to make 400 horsepower and an engine that isn't working hard to make 450 horsepower. An under stressed engine will always feel better

  • @Procur3
    @Procur3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your comment about the clutch hook is 100% accurate. My E46 M3 was the same way- easy to figure out but much different than every other manufacturer. Pretty heavy clutch too but I actually like that

    • @TechTokOffical
      @TechTokOffical ปีที่แล้ว

      Clutch delay value..pop that bad boy out...

  • @jeffreyhamilton88
    @jeffreyhamilton88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that thing looks like it’s missing pieces what the hell

  • @joshuad1716
    @joshuad1716 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just hope this brings the prices for the last generation m2 competitions back to earth, those are the REAL winners

  • @yt_Ajay_
    @yt_Ajay_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The grille and the wide fenders aren't the issue. The last M2 was a genuinely gorgeous car and this is a pretty sharp step down.

    • @waheeddoesstuff
      @waheeddoesstuff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it’s also so heavy! Nearly 4000 pounds

  • @SalvadoreanKOV
    @SalvadoreanKOV ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Recently saw this car in person; looks much better than what you see in videos or photos!

  • @philandrajordan7355
    @philandrajordan7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The wide finders are not the problem, its the fact that the doors do not have any dimension to it like the last model.

  • @Johnnyscarcarereviews
    @Johnnyscarcarereviews ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure I like the new front end but the rest is great. Mind you beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Let's see how consumers take to it

  • @ironmaidenfan66670
    @ironmaidenfan66670 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If I could afford it, Id go out and get one. Im not even a beemer guy, but I appreciate what they've done with this. An I6, manual, RWD coupe, with some classic beemer styling queues..Theres alot to like.

    • @EvilCouncil
      @EvilCouncil ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A "Beemer" is a motorcycle 🤫 But yeah, where I live it's almost double the price of the US price and we still want it here! Although BMW's manuals aren't really the best in business while the ZF is arguably the best automatic alongside the PDK.

    • @JahyMoonwalker
      @JahyMoonwalker ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want speed and handling there are better ways to spend your money, in the US anyways.

  • @niradgupta4075
    @niradgupta4075 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love the way it looks. It reminds me of an 80s tuner car or rally car, with it's huge fenders and boxy look.

    • @tylerfitzgerald266
      @tylerfitzgerald266 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's boxy in all the wrong areas tho. If the car was all boxy like the Ioniq5 then it would work but this is so over styled with round and squared edges in certain spots

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love that BMW brought back the manual transmission. I really don't hate the look at all, but I don't think it's their finest looking M coupe ether. This is a great tribute to the original M cars. I hope to be able to afford something this nice some day. Thank you.

  • @BertrandDussert
    @BertrandDussert ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My one gripe with this car is the curb weight. The F80 M3 was 250 lbs lighter... Does it drive like 3,800 lbs? The power is definitely underrated, so I'm sure acceleration is strong, but I'm more wondering about track chops on a hot day (braking and tire burn). Can you equip the car with ceramic brakes? Thanks for the great review. I'm going to take a hard look at this.

    • @waheeddoesstuff
      @waheeddoesstuff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great comment. If they got it to handle “harder” than the M4 is essentially is then that would be a big win.

  • @TheHolyMustard
    @TheHolyMustard ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the way this car looks. I feel like just shitting on looks is the trend with every different looking car that comes out. I appreciate that Doug doesn’t follow the same trend that every other car reviewer seems to take.

    • @flybriur
      @flybriur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with your comment that there is a trend that people seem to just shit on things just because it's different. I am not a person that does that, but I really don't like the front or rear of the car at all. When the M3 &, M4 came out it also got a lot of crap, but I didn't think it deserved it. Some of the other BMWs that have come out recently though I don't like the loon at, including that M2 (or does look ok from the sides though).

  • @gamersinghking4167
    @gamersinghking4167 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you said that people didn't like the looks of this car, I was confused. There's nothing to dislike about this design.

  • @megatronopera
    @megatronopera ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doug you need to see the dyno numbers for this car. Its not a 450 horspepower car its 464 horsepower to the WHEELS. BMW underrated the numbers on this car heavily.

  • @brimsum
    @brimsum ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think BMW has peaked in terms of performance and refinement of their 6 cylinders. Next generations definitely gonna have some sort of EV attached to it. Also, I never heard anyone complain about the fenders, it was more so about the front and rear look. Especially the rear, those taillights look really dinky in my opinion.

  • @LucasChoate
    @LucasChoate ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like it. I had a Triumph TR-6 car with an inline 6. It sounded great, wouldn't pass emissions, caused me untold pain and I loved it. This could be that. I agree with Doug. This is what we want.

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt ปีที่แล้ว

      This is SO far from your triumph. I'd say only similarities are two doors, straight six and rwd
      This probably weighs nearly 2x, and has been tuned to leave the driver disconnected from both steering and shifter 😢

  • @DailyDownshift
    @DailyDownshift ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You're 100% right, this car is a BEAST. I'm enjoying it a lot more than any of my previous F87's and base C8 stingray, great review Doug!

    • @mikedelape6609
      @mikedelape6609 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have a c8 and i disagree this M2 is better, it’s definitely not faster and i dont believe it handles better

    • @DailyDownshift
      @DailyDownshift 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikedelape6609 The M2 is a lot faster, you can watch any race online. It's got about 50-60 extra WHP

  • @L4STC4LL
    @L4STC4LL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem is the weight! The previous M2 comp was 3225 and this one is 3800 lbs??!

  • @whitekj03
    @whitekj03 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like the rear end the most on this, actually my favorite 2023 BMW design. Hope this car will be in the next Forza game, a little out of the scope of my financial situation right now 😂

  • @powerfuse0
    @powerfuse0 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think the new styling is an interesting turn for BMW. Typically their newer designs tend to grow on me. I really love that colour though!

    • @milehighboost5521
      @milehighboost5521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a huge fan of the color but love that they are coming out with new or different ones here and there. Too bad no green option.

    • @powerfuse0
      @powerfuse0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milehighboost5521 Makes me think of the i30n colour. I like that acid yellow on the m4 too though so maybe i just like unusual colours 🤣🤣

  • @sadboolean8605
    @sadboolean8605 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'll be honest this thing looks like a scion lmao

  • @xItachii
    @xItachii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate the screens. Way too big and always dusty and covered in finger prints. I can partially forgive the infotainment part but it needs a wheel like iDrive in the 2010’s so don’t HAVE to touch it. Why can’t we have analog gauge clusters again? I would take a used 2016 M2 over the new one for that reason alone. Also the older style is just objectively better.

  • @markwgundert4251
    @markwgundert4251 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the miniscule rear spoiler during your quirks and features section. Regarding the track mode turning off the infotainment screen, they should have integrated gauges such as trans, diff, and brake fluid temps...weird they didn't think of that

  • @wesley7753
    @wesley7753 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this car. It truly brings a tear to my eye that there are still some new cars being made that have that old school charm

    • @supraa-bh7yp
      @supraa-bh7yp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts this car is dope

  • @Lemonssssss
    @Lemonssssss ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Heavier and less powerful than a outgoing Mustang GT for like double the price.

  • @geoff3610
    @geoff3610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the car and am a major fan of widebodies, OEM or aftermarket, but something about this car just looks... unfinished. It's missing some contour lines somewhere. Maybe a vent on the front of the rear fender. It's just so smooth and flat looking, like a shell body on a racecar. Might help to see it in a flake paint and not a flat color like this.