Doug, I think it's quite lame you eliminated the daily/weekend score breakdowns. I can't speak for everyone but that was one of the best sections of your video presentation. Please bring it back.
That's because everyone calls his DougScore or opinions "stupid", so he made that part short, you'll see a commenter named "RichieRich" complaining that he gave the Handling Category a 6 on the BMW 😂 Edit: And a few replies underneath me and Klaymen 😂
When Doug loses it over the vin and changes the subject to driving the car I cracked up! What a pure wholesome Doug moment, definitely in my favourite moments of Doug!
Hey Doug. The middle part of the back seat folding down is a pretty normal option on European cars called a ski-gate. It allows you to take your ski's to the mountains without sacrificing seating capacity!
13:15 this passthrough is for skis. BMW's have had this kind of rear seat passthrough since forever and it's really really useful for this exact purpose. My old 3 series even had a ski bag from factory
@@awesomepants8864 Golf Clubs should fit in the trunk I think. The passthrough is kinda narrow, so I'm not sure if clubs would fit too. But skis definitely do
Doug please do a small back seat compilation!! My 8 year old daughter laughs historically at that part in small car episodes. Edit: Only time will tell if I misspelled Hysterical.
The rear seats are actually very useful, I carried a lot of my friends with my e82 135i rear seats. One time we even had 3 people at the back. I mean, it's small but compared to other coupes like Porche 911, mustang, etc, the rear seat is usable. I think it's primarily because of the shape of the roof. I actually very much appreciate BMW is giving consideration to the backseat, I mean it's a plus, not a must, but with technology so advanced today, it doesn't take much to add those features to the rear. it's a small thing to show respect to the buyer. I don't think the owner wants to be reminded all the time that "you are just a coupe, you don't deserve two extra usb-c charging ports"
Rear seat has always been usable in small BMW 2 doors, even in E30 that is totally tiny compare to new cars and still has inline 6 engine and RWD that takes a lot of room
I have been competing at club level motorsport for over 50 years. Fifty years! I need an edge or an advantage in my class, and that advantage is not a manual gearbox. I use the paddles to change gears and over a 980metre hillclimb I am one second faster. One second may not sound a lot but places in our class is decided in hundreds of a second. F1 use a sequential, so do all rally cars and a lot of other on track cars. I'll take the auto box. And I will smile at you in peak traffic with your manual shift and the smell of the clutch . Another great video Doug and I understand the VIN numbers interest.
My friend said it's for holding onto the back part of a compact, open with the mirror facing up at them, I asked why and she just shook her head, I assume they are just really paranoid about boogers if they are constantly checking their noses in the car 🤔
I know I shouldn´t but I keep being astonished that the "base" model in the US is always so much more powerful than the base model in Europe, including Germany where we famously have no speed limit and one can actually use all that power (on occasion, like 6am on Sunday mornings ;) ). Base here is M220i, 184hp...
I think because americans really like horsepower and just like pure power straight line speed stuff like that i mean american sporty cars that compete with bmw and merc have like 600 horsepower
But what is the fuel economy on the one Doug reviewed ? By the time you include taxes that is one of the most important things to Europeans (unless you are buying a Tesla or Taycan). p.s. Amusing thought for the day. If you were commuting into London new Hummer EV would be cheaper than this BMW. I can't wait to see one with Green number plates (indicating it is exempt from congestion charges).
The colour is very nice. Also, I like that sleek look of the car and the fact that it has the best type of door handles a car can have. This BMW 2 - Series has soo many good features i.e. it has touchscreen and buttons, the A/C controls are buttons with small display - best combo, the trunk has the small hinge and piston mechanism, which is waay better than that miserable other design which so many car makers use, folding rear seats etc. This is truly a well engineered and thought over car.
I have an msport 135i with the n55 and a DCT trans and it’s one of the best cars I’ve ever owned….in terms of reliability it’s a bit more expensive in terms to a other car if it’s class but it’s still More reliable than the old n54 by a long shot. My friend had a n54 and seemed to be replacing spark plugs every other month as were the only thing I’ve had to do is a valve cover and thermostat now that’s it out of warranty in 30k miles….if you keep maintaining it it’ll last bmw “reliability” has greatly improved over the past 10 or so years
6:50 Thank God BMW doesn't go with the "Touchscreen only" thing way too many Cars have, which means they listened to their Customers because many BMW Customers here in Germany did respond to a Questionnaire BMW sent them which included the Question about Physical Controls Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
I think this vehicle is great! Price point, power, fun, and design. I do say the outgoing does look a bit more aggressive and beef. Worth of BMW, but this will do and hey the M2 hasn't event came out yet.
Unless you want an engaging drivers car. BMW has lost it. The M2 CS is the only real BMW left. Cadillac and Alfa Romeo are now the "ultimate driving machines"
@@drippgxd not even close. The CT4V Blackwing and Giulia QV are far more engaging and fun to drive. All the Germans are numb computers. The C63S is pretty good though.
Dropping manual = dropping interest. I understand “faster and more efficient,” but I prefer “more engaging and fun.” Guess I’m keeping my trusty 3-Series wagon for a while longer…
While the M2 has a manual take rate of about 50%, the previous M240i rate is very low. Doesn’t make business sense for BMW to certify a manual for the few of us who prefer them. The G87 M2 will offer a manual; that’s what I’ll replace my current M2 6MT with.
A week ago we stopped by our local BMW dealer to look at the M240is. The lot was nearly empty of ALL new models, they had zero 240is, one was arriving in 3 months and is already sold. They said three more wore coming after that one in about 5 months and they were already sold as well. The supply chain stories are alive and well.
this m-lite can do 0-60 in 3.82. Definitely a great option below the M2 and since the front ends are different, this is a viable option if you like the way this looks over the M2.
Americans can't drive stick anymore. They only want cars that do the driving for them. Americans hate lifting a finger to do any extra work. If something isn't easy to do, Americans won't do it! Soon people in America will have escalators instead of stairs!
The loss of the manual is a shame, however, BMW has not offered a manual in the X-Drive cars in quite a few years, so this model wouldn't have had it anyways. Maybe they'll reconsider for the RWD cars for those of us who can't afford the premium of a true M car. The hood and bulging fenders look like a carryover from the previous M2 models, so it'll be interesting to see what the new M looks like.
Personally, I think this look really nice. It has a unique design that looks bold and is something different. My only issue is a lack of a manual transmission. Having a stickshift and RWD on this would make it an absolute blast of a smaller car to drive. I'm sure it's really fun nevertheless, but I think a stick would fit this car perfectly.
I like how it looks too...even better than the outgoing model. Now can BMW just make one with RWD, manual trans, manual seats, no cameras, no sunroof, no rear HVAC, 4 speakers (not 14!), and fixed grille fins and sell it to me for $35K?
I got to drive these when doing pdi's at my dealer. The looks are questionable looks like a baby Camaro to me. This car handles so well with xdrive just sticks to the road so flawlessly. The m2 should be awesome
It looks like a Mustang. BMW's designers saw a Mustang and thought "hey, let's copy that but put beaver teeth on the front everyone is too distracted to realize that we copied a Mustang."
I had a 135i for a number of years with the old N54 engine and a 6MT and RWD. Really fun car. With a simple tune they are pretty close on power with current models. Sad the MT is gone. It was a really great transmission. Hopefully they're more reliable now. Lots of fuel pump and injector issues and the water pumps from the factory were garbage. They fixed most of the issues with new parts at least.
Really liked the original 1series styling. Saw a 135i the other day and it was so cool looking. Don’t know why they had to making this car so much bigger.
Those pilot sport 4s have a little ☆, arent those the ones developed for the m3? And while I'd love an appreciate the effort, the car is already E90 size and weight
Doug- with all due respect, but your scoring methodology needs some work. For example, I'm confused how the TLX Type S and M340i are both a 7 for acceleration, when the M340i obliterates the TLX in this performance metric?? Other than that, you're a good car reviewer..
Doug, it’s a ZF8, the best transmission in the world, hands down. And you’re complaining that you get a Rolls Royce transmission, literally, it’s the same one in $600K cars. And, IT’S A FULL MANUAL IN MANUAL MODE.
A pedal doesn’t define manual shifting. I bought manuals my whole life, until I reluctantly bought a ZF8, not understanding it was way more manual than my manuals, because it takes no time to shift into what ever gear you choose, then it stays there. The ZF8 is 50% better than a manual in terms of fun and performance. Plus, my 700HP car gets 31 mpg in 8th, geared for 340 mph at redline. Plus, it has an automatic mode which is 100% required on the drag strip. The initial gear changes happen so fast they cannot possibly be timed correctly by a human.
Aside from the headlights being weirdly small, I like the look of this car. It's a hell of a lot better than this STUPID trend of oversized grills that BMW is doing with their other stuff, and this car doesn't look like it was released 20 years ago either.
By the way, Doug, you can actually configure the middle portion of the driver screen. You have options other than map. For example, I have mine configured to show the driver assist stuff.
I'll help clear up any confusion here as a seasoned M2 / M3 owner. The M240i is an M car and has been for the past 2 years. The B58 engine, throttle mapping, suspension / chassis, M LSD, brakes, exhaust, etc are all developed by M division and M performance models are listed in the M GmbH global sales figures along with the M2. (not standard BMW GmbH sales figures). It's clearly listed as BMW M on the 2 series build page, ask BMW M and they will tell you. BMW is finally aligning with AMG the past 2 years where they have 2 versions of an M car (A35 AMG vs A45 AMG for example). The A35 is an AMG car even though it's not the higher end track version A45. The M240i is the same...an M performance model whereas the M2 is the "full" track car. The 2022 M240i is faster than last years M2 comp, people are trading in their old M2 for this car for a reason, they don't just randomly throw an M badge on the back of a car unless it's developed by M division just like AMG would never do that. I think the issue here is that they slap M badges all over the place on the interior of "M Sport package" on standard cars like the 230, 330, etc which are definitely not developed by M division and make a lot of purists upset, which I can align with. MB and Audi does the same thing with the "AMG Sport" and "S Sport" packages on base line models, it sells so that's not going anywhere anytime soon. Hopefully that clears up any confusion even though some people will still be stuck in the past, and that's fine too.
This has to be one of BMWs best recent designs, sad to say that, because it isn’t all that amazing. But compared to the 4 series, iX, and the abomination of the 7 series, it looks pretty good
Yeah, I agree with that, but there's kind of a point here - when you pay premium for BMW, the design should be more than just "it's not as bad as the other cars they do". I think Subaru could get away with this just about ok.
I like it overall. I had the last gen m240i and by far my favorite car I’ve had. I miss the angel eyes and it’s a little weird that we have a longer wheel base and yet an almost unusable back seat. I was pleasantly surprised that the back seats in the last gen were actually useable. Sneakily so. Rant aside I do like the new one. Just wish it had a manual option
I have the m235i from same generation and agree. I have actually sat a 6 ft 10 friend in the passenger seat comfortably with a little seat lean, and real size adults can sit in the back. It is a great blend of practical everyday driver and fun exciting car for the curves. I like the feature set and performance of the new one, but our gen just looks so much better
Doug, nice review! I’m nearly as tall as you, and I (barely) fit in the back seat of my M2. And I prefer to row my own gears too. It’s interesting to see M Performance models raise the bar above their full-M predecessors. You don’t need to hedge on the future M2 version. Several prototypes of the G87 have been seen at the Nürburgring and elsewhere, with wide fenders visible under the camo. A BMW insider says it will have an S58 tuned to about 450 DIN (can’t upstage its big brothers), it will come in Competition-spec only, a 6 speed manual or ZF8 will be available, and production starts in December as 2023 models. Not sure about the first US deliveries, but I’m watching this closely.
and everything was looking great untill they killed the stick. I have never like the series 2 since it was down right disproportionally ugly. This one for the first time look like a car I would buy and a starting price no much more than a brz is honestly looks promising, but yeah, no stick is a dead sentence for me. Nothing against autos, but drivers need the choice, even if it is an option with additional charge like corvettes used to be.
this M2 is not comparable to the BRZ at alllllllll. The BRZ doesn't even have over 200bhp lmao that thing is like a kit car compared to the M2. Even if it is a auto it would absolutely smoke the BRZ any day
@@automation7295 easy, you design the car to fit a manual, they just didn't. Actually, a simple 6 speed manual is significantly smaller than any auto specially a dual clutch.
my old 2 series and 1 series had tons of backseat room for such a small car i could sit behind myself with headroom as a 6ft guy sad to see they lost that
I bet BMW engineers purposely dropped the manual option on the “M”240i to give hints to enthusiasts (or shall I say ///Mthusiasts) that this is basically a marketing bs “M car”. It’s basically a normal 2 series with M badges all over it for people who aren’t into driving as much but just want to brag on how they own an “M” car. They want the enthusiasts to get the real M car, the M2 if they really want a manual! Oh and stop bitching about how they dropped the convertible option for this car. You want a convertible 2 series? Get the Z4! They’re practically the same car!
A great car in a splendid colour. We're getting our BMW 3-series re-painted since we never liked the stock grey. I pick bronze, my wife wants dark green. Maybe we'll compromise on purple?
So it's not an "M-Car" but it has a bunch of "M" stickers from the factory. . . . . . Member when we used to make fun of people doing that to their regular model? Feels like it was just yesterday.
@@moa-wg3bo If it's not an M car, it's not an M car. It's as simple as that. If we don't draw the line, what's stopping us from calling a Toyota Corolla an M car eventually?
Test drove 230 and the 330, and the 230 handles significantly better. Bought the 2022 M240i and having driven a 4,100 lbs wagon, a 2020 Miata, and a Civic for the last 4 years here's my take away. >2022 BMW M240i = Fast daily, GT Coupe, best mix between power, sport, utility out of the box. 2022 BMW 230i = If you are okay with modification, and potentially sacrificing reliability, then 230i's reduced weight is the better platform >2022. It doesn't take much to make a 230i match the same performance as a 240i, and with the better weight distribution, and lower curb weight, it'll handle better too. Still not as good as a
Fair assessment! I bought a used 2022 m240i w/ 13,000 miles on it because it was a great deal. Love the car but my previous 2016 RWD 340i with resonator delete and stage one piggy back just felt a little more raw/violent. The m240i Is soooo damn fast but the drive keeps it under control majority of the time I really wanted the 2022 interior but would have gone RWD if that wasn’t the case
@@jdbsoccer100 LoL 2022 M240i w/ 13K (x-drive??) where was it that you bought that? Cause I think I was eyeballing the same one. Just drove the 240 up to Watkins Glen from Central NJ and took the scenic route late into the evening... and I stand by my comments on other videos and FB... This car is too fast, to really enjoy it and drive it at 8/10 or 9/10 on public roads, you're risking jail time or death. Incredible machine, but I might get to drive like that once or twice a year. Rest of the time, it's my wife's daily.
i had my 2022 M240 for a year and a half (long time for me!!) but ended up selling. it's a rocket in a straight line but man. on back, windy roads... i really can't say it's fun :/
@@goldblade84 in fairness, i have never driven an M BMW. those very well may be. but M performance and base trims aren't close to sports cars. big part is they are just too heavy haha
My C55 AMG has the same length as this M240i. 370 hp and a 5.4l naturally aspirated V8. THIS is a modern day hot rod and not this 6 cyl turbo charged thing
I bet that rear seat climate control is the exact same as the gran coupe so instead of taking it out for the regular coupe they just left it in so they didn't have to make a different center console.
The 2GC is completely different from the 2 series coupe. It's kinda hilarious that there are three types of 2 series, none of which have something in common with each other: 2 series coupe, 2 series gran coupe, which is basically a 1 series sedan and a 2 series active tourer which is a terrible minivan xD
Funny how Doug thinks everything that lights up is a screen. The door panel trim is leds behind a smoked plexi plate. There is absolutely nothing screen about it.
Doug, I think it's quite lame you eliminated the daily/weekend score breakdowns. I can't speak for everyone but that was one of the best sections of your video presentation. Please bring it back.
Agreed, always watch these hoping to see its return.
That's because everyone calls his DougScore or opinions "stupid", so he made that part short, you'll see a commenter named "RichieRich" complaining that he gave the Handling Category a 6 on the BMW 😂
Edit: And a few replies underneath me and Klaymen 😂
@@jc_so_riyl exactly.
It is stupid to rate a Bugatti Chiron on practicality and a Yugo on fun factor. Typical millennial, no ability to think.
@@FFE-js2zp Don't watch it then🤡, and you're an example of why he doesn't put that much effort into his scoring anymore
When Doug loses it over the vin and changes the subject to driving the car I cracked up! What a pure wholesome Doug moment, definitely in my favourite moments of Doug!
True enthusiasm is an appealing quality in people
Don't forget folks, turn playback speed to 0.5 for Stroke Doug. It's a different kind of entertainment lol
Lmao 3MW
European G42s have a VIN starting with WBA41CM (non xDrive) or WBA51CM (xDrive), even though they are also manufactured in SLP México.
Hey Doug. The middle part of the back seat folding down is a pretty normal option on European cars called a ski-gate. It allows you to take your ski's to the mountains without sacrificing seating capacity!
Or fishing rods and many more lengthy items
And a pogo stick, snow board, long jump pole,
When he said it was built in Mexico everything suddenly made sense.
Planks of wood also
Typically in America, instead of a 40/20/40 split, it'll be 60/40 and the middle seat will have a "pass thru" for the same purpose.
Quick note: 0-60 in 4 seconds was what the actual M6 could do 15 years ago.
Also, I LOVE that purple paint. It even has a cool name: Thundernight.
Can hit high 11s in the 1/4 mile bone stock. That is absolutely absurd.
We can agree tho anything that's past 60 the M6 will take it
15 years ago was a long time
almost all colors have cool names..... i own a bmw and this car is a joke for me but go ahead and buy it.
@@dllemm it's almost fast as 2008 GTR which was big deal at the time
13:15 this passthrough is for skis. BMW's have had this kind of rear seat passthrough since forever and it's really really useful for this exact purpose. My old 3 series even had a ski bag from factory
is it not for golf clubs?
@@awesomepants8864 the official term is "ski pass through" but you could get clubs in there as well.
@@awesomepants8864 Golf Clubs should fit in the trunk I think. The passthrough is kinda narrow, so I'm not sure if clubs would fit too. But skis definitely do
Not just BMW. I've owned a Lexus, Mitsubishi, Nissan and a few other cars with this feature, some from the 1980s.
yeah i immediately thought of putting my snowboard through there
Doug please do a small back seat compilation!! My 8 year old daughter laughs historically at that part in small car episodes.
Edit: Only time will tell if I misspelled Hysterical.
Wish I could laugh historically too
@@77R_ maybe you did
I’m guessing the 8 yr old Hysterically laughs….just helping a friend 🫡
Histrionically maybe?
A bit too soon to tell if she’s laughing historically
Doug even parked it like a real BMW owner @5:35, very authentic review...
@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes Porcupine have pricks on the outside
@@ChR0nos_7734 LMAO
Hey! My parking ain’t that bad 😂😂
@@DannyGrc OK dang demuro
11:40-11:45 THAT is the first time Doug didn't make any weird noises when going in the back seat of a small 2 door car.
Doug’s trying a new quirk, shutting up 😂
How could we forget the time he farted while getting in the back seat of the RC-F that was truly something.
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@@beaf8411 please tell me you’re trolling. If this is real good damn Doug’s viewers are idiots
Good. When he does that it’s so weird
Doug is single handily changing the dynamics of car tech and car performance, just by reviewing and mentioning what could be better. Amazing
The rear seats are actually very useful, I carried a lot of my friends with my e82 135i rear seats. One time we even had 3 people at the back. I mean, it's small but compared to other coupes like Porche 911, mustang, etc, the rear seat is usable. I think it's primarily because of the shape of the roof.
I actually very much appreciate BMW is giving consideration to the backseat, I mean it's a plus, not a must, but with technology so advanced today, it doesn't take much to add those features to the rear.
it's a small thing to show respect to the buyer. I don't think the owner wants to be reminded all the time that "you are just a coupe, you don't deserve two extra usb-c charging ports"
Rear seat has always been usable in small BMW 2 doors, even in E30 that is totally tiny compare to new cars and still has inline 6 engine and RWD that takes a lot of room
These look a bit like a Holden, (2007 HSV Clubsport R8), from the back
Or Hyundai lol
What are you an Aussie ?
Hasn't Holden bit the dust as a car manufacturer ?
@@gregorygant4242 yes rip 2017
This the bmw holdON WHAT IS UP WITH THE DESIGN M
@@alecbarber7913 Christ.... murican?
BMW: The color of this car is "Thunder Night Metallic"
Doug: I'm gonna simplify this for you, it's purple
Please bring back the detailed Doug Score
yes !
BMW slaps the M badge on everything nowadays. Definitely takes away from the nostalgia of having the real thing.
It is a M lite not a full M car.
Bmw has done that for over 9 years maybe even more, nothing new with that.
Well it is quite real thing. More hp than M3 from early 2000s. More fun too.
You can tell by the M stuff everywhere inside the car that seeing the logo is exactly what ppl want to spend their money on
Nostalgia isn't the right word but yeah I get what you mean. Makes the real M cars a little less special
Yeah but that's pretty much the real thing in that case
I have been competing at club level motorsport for over 50 years. Fifty years! I need an edge or an advantage in my class, and that advantage is not a manual gearbox. I use the paddles to change gears and over a 980metre hillclimb I am one second faster. One second may not sound a lot but places in our class is decided in hundreds of a second. F1 use a sequential, so do all rally cars and a lot of other on track cars. I'll take the auto box. And I will smile at you in peak traffic with your manual shift and the smell of the clutch . Another great video Doug and I understand the VIN numbers interest.
Doug please bring back the in depth Doug score. 🙏
12:51 The split cupholder is to help support taller drinks. If you look at the lids, it has a mold to better hold a cup
Yeah a few cars do that now. Pretty handy. I had to get a special cup for mine as nothing else would fit the stupid thing lol
My friend said it's for holding onto the back part of a compact, open with the mirror facing up at them, I asked why and she just shook her head, I assume they are just really paranoid about boogers if they are constantly checking their noses in the car 🤔
I know I shouldn´t but I keep being astonished that the "base" model in the US is always so much more powerful than the base model in Europe, including Germany where we famously have no speed limit and one can actually use all that power (on occasion, like 6am on Sunday mornings ;) ). Base here is M220i, 184hp...
I think because americans really like horsepower and just like pure power straight line speed stuff like that i mean american sporty cars that compete with bmw and merc have like 600 horsepower
Not M220i, just 220i
But what is the fuel economy on the one Doug reviewed ? By the time you include taxes that is one of the most important things to Europeans (unless you are buying a Tesla or Taycan).
p.s. Amusing thought for the day. If you were commuting into London new Hummer EV would be cheaper than this BMW. I can't wait to see one with Green number plates (indicating it is exempt from congestion charges).
@@satsumagt5284 You are right. My bad. Shoddy writing...
@@I4k_auI'd guess it's much more about pushing the message that BMW's are ultra premium in the states.
The colour is very nice. Also, I like that sleek look of the car and the fact that it has the best type of door handles a car can have. This BMW 2 - Series has soo many good features i.e. it has touchscreen and buttons, the A/C controls are buttons with small display - best combo, the trunk has the small hinge and piston mechanism, which is waay better than that miserable other design which so many car makers use, folding rear seats etc. This is truly a well engineered and thought over car.
I have an msport 135i with the n55 and a DCT trans and it’s one of the best cars I’ve ever owned….in terms of reliability it’s a bit more expensive in terms to a other car if it’s class but it’s still More reliable than the old n54 by a long shot. My friend had a n54 and seemed to be replacing spark plugs every other month as were the only thing I’ve had to do is a valve cover and thermostat now that’s it out of warranty in 30k miles….if you keep maintaining it it’ll last bmw “reliability” has greatly improved over the past 10 or so years
6:50 Thank God BMW doesn't go with the "Touchscreen only" thing way too many Cars have, which means they listened to their Customers because many BMW Customers here in Germany did respond to a Questionnaire BMW sent them which included the Question about Physical Controls
Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
I think the iX and the new 7 series have screen only functions. Not good imo
I’ve always liked the dial for the screen. It’s way easier to use while driving
Sadge
Bring back the long Doug Score!
Long Doug Score sounds wrong.
I think this vehicle is great! Price point, power, fun, and design. I do say the outgoing does look a bit more aggressive and beef. Worth of BMW, but this will do and hey the M2 hasn't event came out yet.
We appreciate your commitment to keep climbing on the back seats.
m240, m340, m440 - b58 kings with iDrive 7 -- Literally perfect cars.
And the M140i 😉
Unless you want an engaging drivers car. BMW has lost it. The M2 CS is the only real BMW left. Cadillac and Alfa Romeo are now the "ultimate driving machines"
@@jjchockey Mercedes AMG and Audi RS too
@@drippgxd not even close. The CT4V Blackwing and Giulia QV are far more engaging and fun to drive. All the Germans are numb computers. The C63S is pretty good though.
Dropping manual = dropping interest. I understand “faster and more efficient,” but I prefer “more engaging and fun.” Guess I’m keeping my trusty 3-Series wagon for a while longer…
I agree nobody who gets a 2 series is getting it for efficiency
It’s definitely the less preferred transmission and I think that group will only grow smaller but it should always be an option for those who want it
While the M2 has a manual take rate of about 50%, the previous M240i rate is very low. Doesn’t make business sense for BMW to certify a manual for the few of us who prefer them. The G87 M2 will offer a manual; that’s what I’ll replace my current M2 6MT with.
"M" has been so INCREDIBLY watered down. They might as well just put it on all their cars at this point.
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A week ago we stopped by our local BMW dealer to look at the M240is. The lot was nearly empty of ALL new models, they had zero 240is, one was arriving in 3 months and is already sold. They said three more wore coming after that one in about 5 months and they were already sold as well. The supply chain stories are alive and well.
this m-lite can do 0-60 in 3.82. Definitely a great option below the M2 and since the front ends are different, this is a viable option if you like the way this looks over the M2.
You lost me at “dropped the manual transmission”
Americans can't drive stick anymore. They only want cars that do the driving for them. Americans hate lifting a finger to do any extra work. If something isn't easy to do, Americans won't do it! Soon people in America will have escalators instead of stairs!
I owned the same exact car and I love it! I actually emailed you before to review it 😂
U one rich boi
3:31 Dodge has been making traditional door handles for 20+ years. Geniuses ahead of the industry.
Dodge for life
When you gonna drop that i4 M50 review?! Such a tease...
I really enjoy the smooth styling, perfer the interior of the 22' than the 23+. Easily tuned to 600whp
An M2 with a manual and rwd could be slower then this awd auto. Still would rather drive a manual M2 with RWD.
A manual RWD M2 is the true successor of the early M3s. The 3-Series has gotten bigger and bigger over the years.
@@bwofficial1776 The current M3 for all its horsepower has gotten really fat, if they’re able to keep the weight down it would be great
@@bwofficial1776 you mean as well as the 2 series because this is already e90 size and weight
The loss of the manual is a shame, however, BMW has not offered a manual in the X-Drive cars in quite a few years, so this model wouldn't have had it anyways. Maybe they'll reconsider for the RWD cars for those of us who can't afford the premium of a true M car. The hood and bulging fenders look like a carryover from the previous M2 models, so it'll be interesting to see what the new M looks like.
Not true. My 2019 440xi was manual. So quite recent
@@TheBxTurbo lol cry about not having manual when you’re too poor to afford one and never buy it
@@racksontheway659 Sounds like something a poor person would say.
@@racksontheway659 manuals are usually like 5k cheaper new and cheaper on most used cars
@@r0gue 1-2k
Personally, I think this look really nice. It has a unique design that looks bold and is something different. My only issue is a lack of a manual transmission. Having a stickshift and RWD on this would make it an absolute blast of a smaller car to drive. I'm sure it's really fun nevertheless, but I think a stick would fit this car perfectly.
You must never have driven the bmw 8 speed auto
I like how it looks too...even better than the outgoing model. Now can BMW just make one with RWD, manual trans, manual seats, no cameras, no sunroof, no rear HVAC, 4 speakers (not 14!), and fixed grille fins and sell it to me for $35K?
I got to drive these when doing pdi's at my dealer. The looks are questionable looks like a baby Camaro to me. This car handles so well with xdrive just sticks to the road so flawlessly. The m2 should be awesome
that purple looks sooo good. bmw did really well with this color.
The rear center drops down for skis. Many BMW's have this and have had it for a LONG time.
Accurate assessment.
Doug: "The New 2022 BMW M240i Hasn't Been Ruined Yet"
Also Doug: "and also gone for the 2022 model year is the manual transmission"
Why do people care about manual transmission so much . I never see the effect in sales either
@@offradar31 lol have you even driven one 🤣
@@Shabbe02 ya it was cool but if you in a big city like Houston it’s the worst thing ever
@@mgoblue0970 different strokes for different folks . It’s fun but not my cup of tea.
I agree, I drove my 6 speed Mustang to school and work for three years before moving to a small town, stop and go traffic really kills the fun.
I'm not a BMW fan at all, but I find the BMW 4 series coupe (g22) already has this modern US Muscel Car retro look and I like it
I like everything but the door handles
@@anderplane2921 true that bro those hoop handles look way better
It looks like a Mustang. BMW's designers saw a Mustang and thought "hey, let's copy that but put beaver teeth on the front everyone is too distracted to realize that we copied a Mustang."
I waited 20s of unskipable ads to watch doug reviewing a purple bmw.
That's how much i like doug.
I had a 135i for a number of years with the old N54 engine and a 6MT and RWD. Really fun car. With a simple tune they are pretty close on power with current models.
Sad the MT is gone. It was a really great transmission.
Hopefully they're more reliable now. Lots of fuel pump and injector issues and the water pumps from the factory were garbage. They fixed most of the issues with new parts at least.
It is hilarious to me to see you film your videos in the parking lot of my old job :)
Only because it has no huge grill I love it
For real, why does BMW decided to make their grills hideous is beyond me.
I got my M240i with the M performance parts and wow do I love the thing. Had an M440i and I overall prefer the styling on the 240.
The previous m2 looked miles beter
@@Its_Me_Romano true, but considering how BMW is destroying most of their lineup with the beaver grills, I can’t complain about this.
Really liked the original 1series styling. Saw a 135i the other day and it was so cool looking. Don’t know why they had to making this car so much bigger.
Because the 1-series went FWD so the 2-series became a slightly reduced 4-series. They cannot build a dedicated chassis only for the 2.
The ambient lighting looks really good when it’s dark outside
I own one and no it doesn’t. That’s one of the few things I dislike about it.
@@G42-w3t it’s not overkill, it’s subtle and a a nice touch imo.
Those pilot sport 4s have a little ☆, arent those the ones developed for the m3?
And while I'd love an appreciate the effort, the car is already E90 size and weight
It’s always those who never owned the car that talk shit about the car.
Tail lights kill it for me. Looks like when Toyota was trynna look premium and futuristic in like 2014
they look like they were designed for an entirely different car
@@aomar9449 right!!!!
If it had a manual, I could overlook everything else.
In Germany you can get the new M3 and M4 with a 6 speed manual. I’d like to think the future M2 will adopt the same.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm not going to watch the rest of this. You saved me about 20 minutes. Thanks.
manual transmissions are shit compared to modern autos or dkgs
@@sinenomine4540 still way more fun to drive in 99% of driving than any auto. People buy manuals for fun.
@@sinenomine4540 Except manuals are more reliable, fun, and retain value. There's a reason manual spec cars drag in twice as much money.
Doug: it’s not true M car
B58 Gen2 Engine: Hold my beer
Doug- with all due respect, but your scoring methodology needs some work. For example, I'm confused how the TLX Type S and M340i are both a 7 for acceleration, when the M340i obliterates the TLX in this performance metric?? Other than that, you're a good car reviewer..
for me back is awful, just look at it on the end, sadly, looks like good car, maybe better than old one, but old one for me is just beautiful
The back looks nice to me; it just doesn’t look like a beemer.
yes, ths car looks awful in general. i saw it on the street.
It looks great indeed
The whole car is stunning!
@@wlkp69 jealous lol
I’m not a prospective buyer for this car, but I’m glad it’s not an EV.
Take a shot every time he says *EMM* 240i
That grill switch better never go out
I was one of those that thought that this car was ugly until I saw it in person yesterday, Jesus that thing is beautiful.
Doug, it’s a ZF8, the best transmission in the world, hands down. And you’re complaining that you get a Rolls Royce transmission, literally, it’s the same one in $600K cars. And, IT’S A FULL MANUAL IN MANUAL MODE.
"FULL MANUAL" - does a 3rd pedal descend from under the dash?
A pedal doesn’t define manual shifting. I bought manuals my whole life, until I reluctantly bought a ZF8, not understanding it was way more manual than my manuals, because it takes no time to shift into what ever gear you choose, then it stays there. The ZF8 is 50% better than a manual in terms of fun and performance. Plus, my 700HP car gets 31 mpg in 8th, geared for 340 mph at redline.
Plus, it has an automatic mode which is 100% required on the drag strip. The initial gear changes happen so fast they cannot possibly be timed correctly by a human.
This car breathes BMW middle of 2000s for me all over the place. True BMW spirit is present. Love it
How can this breathes BMW middle of 2000s when 2-series weren't a thing back then?
@@automation7295 that wasn't my point. I owned E46 and this car breathes E46 for me all over the place. But that's just me
The video starts at 1:10.
Not me getting very happy that Doug used a picture of a red 2 Series with a South African plate number because I am proudly a South African 😀 😊 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Doug: Imma call it purple
BMW: No Thunder Night Metallic
Dodge: Plum Crazy!!!
Patrick: I love being purple!!!
13:07 it's called a ski pass through, Doug. How do you not know this?
"...and that means I have to climb back here due to a precedent that I estabolished years ago and now deeply deeply regret." 😂
Aside from the headlights being weirdly small, I like the look of this car. It's a hell of a lot better than this STUPID trend of oversized grills that BMW is doing with their other stuff, and this car doesn't look like it was released 20 years ago either.
Well, tbf though the “big grills” do serve a proper purpose on those M cars. However not so sure on the electric models.
I wonder whats Dougs favourite german brand in terms of cars.
I own the 2020 M240i and i love it! i look forward to turning it on everyday. great car
"the manual transmission is dropped for this year"
**closes the video**
M2 might have it, hopefully… the M4 does, at least in some markets
Literally did the same.
Guess you're never driving a modern Ferrari, Lambo, or McLaren. Manuals are great, but becoming overrated.
@@KandiMan they’re definitely slower, but people feel more connected to the car in a manual.
By far my favorite car under 60k. Side profile is awesome.. really long Hood with really short tail. Slightly reminds me of old z4m coupe.
Nothing makes me happier than hearing Doug voice imitate what the critics say about this car🤣🤣🤣🤣
By the way, Doug, you can actually configure the middle portion of the driver screen. You have options other than map. For example, I have mine configured to show the driver assist stuff.
Doug every time he says “Mmmmm 240i” “Mmmmm vehicle” “Mmmmm badge” 😂
I'll help clear up any confusion here as a seasoned M2 / M3 owner. The M240i is an M car and has been for the past 2 years. The B58 engine, throttle mapping, suspension / chassis, M LSD, brakes, exhaust, etc are all developed by M division and M performance models are listed in the M GmbH global sales figures along with the M2. (not standard BMW GmbH sales figures). It's clearly listed as BMW M on the 2 series build page, ask BMW M and they will tell you. BMW is finally aligning with AMG the past 2 years where they have 2 versions of an M car (A35 AMG vs A45 AMG for example). The A35 is an AMG car even though it's not the higher end track version A45. The M240i is the same...an M performance model whereas the M2 is the "full" track car. The 2022 M240i is faster than last years M2 comp, people are trading in their old M2 for this car for a reason, they don't just randomly throw an M badge on the back of a car unless it's developed by M division just like AMG would never do that. I think the issue here is that they slap M badges all over the place on the interior of "M Sport package" on standard cars like the 230, 330, etc which are definitely not developed by M division and make a lot of purists upset, which I can align with. MB and Audi does the same thing with the "AMG Sport" and "S Sport" packages on base line models, it sells so that's not going anywhere anytime soon. Hopefully that clears up any confusion even though some people will still be stuck in the past, and that's fine too.
Honestly people just believe whatever the journalists said. BMW has been doing this kind of badging since the 80s with m535i.
@@kamikazee3071 correct. The 80’s M535i suspension was developed by M division.
@@M2atom most people just like to hate on new things & if one journalist start hating on one car , it becomes like a trend.
This has to be one of BMWs best recent designs, sad to say that, because it isn’t all that amazing. But compared to the 4 series, iX, and the abomination of the 7 series, it looks pretty good
The iX is so damn ugly i shake my head in disgust everytime i see it
Yeah, I agree with that, but there's kind of a point here - when you pay premium for BMW, the design should be more than just "it's not as bad as the other cars they do". I think Subaru could get away with this just about ok.
Have you seen the XM? That's pretty much a bucket of vomit on wheels.
So happy Doug has been doing sign language in his videos for all these years !
I think it looks like a z4 with a solid roof on it.
4:56 why is the radio set to Melbourne, Australia??
Yes I agree bring back the Doug score 👍🏿
That would be a rare color sought after by future collectors in 2050.
2050? This car is scrap in 2032 tops 😅
I like it overall. I had the last gen m240i and by far my favorite car I’ve had. I miss the angel eyes and it’s a little weird that we have a longer wheel base and yet an almost unusable back seat. I was pleasantly surprised that the back seats in the last gen were actually useable. Sneakily so. Rant aside I do like the new one. Just wish it had a manual option
I have the m235i from same generation and agree. I have actually sat a 6 ft 10 friend in the passenger seat comfortably with a little seat lean, and real size adults can sit in the back. It is a great blend of practical everyday driver and fun exciting car for the curves. I like the feature set and performance of the new one, but our gen just looks so much better
Doug, nice review! I’m nearly as tall as you, and I (barely) fit in the back seat of my M2. And I prefer to row my own gears too. It’s interesting to see M Performance models raise the bar above their full-M predecessors.
You don’t need to hedge on the future M2 version. Several prototypes of the G87 have been seen at the Nürburgring and elsewhere, with wide fenders visible under the camo. A BMW insider says it will have an S58 tuned to about 450 DIN (can’t upstage its big brothers), it will come in Competition-spec only, a 6 speed manual or ZF8 will be available, and production starts in December as 2023 models. Not sure about the first US deliveries, but I’m watching this closely.
Can’t wait to see the naked exterior, the performance of it sounds unreal though
Most accurate title for describing the design of the new BMW's .
Why are current designs featuring inbuilt dents into their side panels? Is it to make them unrepairable at body shops?
and everything was looking great untill they killed the stick. I have never like the series 2 since it was down right disproportionally ugly. This one for the first time look like a car I would buy and a starting price no much more than a brz is honestly looks promising, but yeah, no stick is a dead sentence for me. Nothing against autos, but drivers need the choice, even if it is an option with additional charge like corvettes used to be.
Totally agree! If they had a stick option it would be amazing! This M240i pretty much rivals the original M2.
How you the manual would fit on the center console? Manuals usually takes up more space than autos.
this M2 is not comparable to the BRZ at alllllllll. The BRZ doesn't even have over 200bhp lmao that thing is like a kit car compared to the M2. Even if it is a auto it would absolutely smoke the BRZ any day
@@automation7295 easy, you design the car to fit a manual, they just didn't. Actually, a simple 6 speed manual is significantly smaller than any auto specially a dual clutch.
@@meesterbingbong5641 exactly my point i want that for not much more money on the base model. But they just don't offer it manual.
my old 2 series and 1 series had tons of backseat room for such a small car i could sit behind myself with headroom as a 6ft guy sad to see they lost that
I always get complaints of leg room with my 2018 1 series.
@@ScottPC i was talking about the 1 series coupe back from like 2011
@@ScottPC yours looks really sick though judging by your profile pic
I bet BMW engineers purposely dropped the manual option on the “M”240i to give hints to enthusiasts (or shall I say ///Mthusiasts) that this is basically a marketing bs “M car”.
It’s basically a normal 2 series with M badges all over it for people who aren’t into driving as much but just want to brag on how they own an “M” car. They want the enthusiasts to get the real M car, the M2 if they really want a manual!
Oh and stop bitching about how they dropped the convertible option for this car. You want a convertible 2 series? Get the Z4! They’re practically the same car!
Same with AMG, STi, Mustang, Taycan Turbo S etc etc
A great car in a splendid colour. We're getting our BMW 3-series re-painted since we never liked the stock grey. I pick bronze, my wife wants dark green. Maybe we'll compromise on purple?
I can’t wait for Doug to Review the New BMW i7😮💨🔥
This is pretty badass. I'd rock it if I had the money. It seems simpler then those other super fancy BMW. Plus 400HP. That pretty impressive
400hp?
@@themercedestraveler9566 these are making over 400hp on a dyno in stock form.
@@stevehrocks do you know where I can see that info? Everywhere I look says 382 to the wheels.
@@themercedestraveler9566 BMW is usually super conservative with their power numbers. This dynod at 404 stock.
'if you have rear passengers and some sort of long pole shaped cargo'
Those are called skis, Doug.
Or possibly a post hole digger 🤔
So it's not an "M-Car" but it has a bunch of "M" stickers from the factory. . . . . .
Member when we used to make fun of people doing that to their regular model?
Feels like it was just yesterday.
@@moa-wg3bo Every car (typically) is faster than the last car.
@@moa-wg3bo If it's not an M car, it's not an M car. It's as simple as that. If we don't draw the line, what's stopping us from calling a Toyota Corolla an M car eventually?
Test drove 230 and the 330, and the 230 handles significantly better.
Bought the 2022 M240i and having driven a 4,100 lbs wagon, a 2020 Miata, and a Civic for the last 4 years here's my take away.
>2022 BMW M240i = Fast daily, GT Coupe, best mix between power, sport, utility out of the box.
2022 BMW 230i = If you are okay with modification, and potentially sacrificing reliability, then 230i's reduced weight is the better platform >2022. It doesn't take much to make a 230i match the same performance as a 240i, and with the better weight distribution, and lower curb weight, it'll handle better too.
Still not as good as a
Fair assessment! I bought a used 2022 m240i w/ 13,000 miles on it because it was a great deal. Love the car but my previous 2016 RWD 340i with resonator delete and stage one piggy back just felt a little more raw/violent. The m240i
Is soooo damn fast but the drive keeps it under control majority of the time
I really wanted the 2022 interior but would have gone RWD if that wasn’t the case
@@jdbsoccer100 LoL 2022 M240i w/ 13K (x-drive??) where was it that you bought that? Cause I think I was eyeballing the same one.
Just drove the 240 up to Watkins Glen from Central NJ and took the scenic route late into the evening... and I stand by my comments on other videos and FB...
This car is too fast, to really enjoy it and drive it at 8/10 or 9/10 on public roads, you're risking jail time or death.
Incredible machine, but I might get to drive like that once or twice a year. Rest of the time, it's my wife's daily.
i had my 2022 M240 for a year and a half (long time for me!!) but ended up selling. it's a rocket in a straight line but man. on back, windy roads... i really can't say it's fun :/
@@10essee10titans This is why some BMW fans get offended when I say BMW doesn't make sports cars, they make performance machines.
@@goldblade84 in fairness, i have never driven an M BMW. those very well may be. but M performance and base trims aren't close to sports cars. big part is they are just too heavy haha
The simple description of this video is Doug the M Doug!!!
That little car has a 380 hp…this is a modern day hot rod.
It also weighs quite a lot though unfortunately
dont be fooled by its size. It weighs almost as much as a 4 series. Just 20KG less I think.
It’s not such a little car.
My C55 AMG has the same length as this M240i. 370 hp and a 5.4l naturally aspirated V8. THIS is a modern day hot rod and not this 6 cyl turbo charged thing
@@lukadzn bet ur C55 can’t do 0-60 in 3.6s like car and driver got. Carwow got 3.82s.
I bet that rear seat climate control is the exact same as the gran coupe so instead of taking it out for the regular coupe they just left it in so they didn't have to make a different center console.
The 2GC is completely different from the 2 series coupe. It's kinda hilarious that there are three types of 2 series, none of which have something in common with each other: 2 series coupe, 2 series gran coupe, which is basically a 1 series sedan and a 2 series active tourer which is a terrible minivan xD
Doug really is the type of guy to geek out over a lowly VIN Number....
Funny how Doug thinks everything that lights up is a screen. The door panel trim is leds behind a smoked plexi plate. There is absolutely nothing screen about it.
Has anyone wondered what would happen if the grill failed to open while driving? Is there a warning light? Otherwise, cooked engine.
It’s not an air cooled car so nothing will be cooked. Worst you’d get is limp mode
@@MichaelBrown-pg5dy Got it. I was just thinking no air = HOT. I have an air cooled VW Bug, and yes, no air is no engine.
It goes into limp mode if issues are detected with the rad blinds
@@MichaelBrown-pg5dy but fresh air is still needed to cool the coolant.....why else do you think cars have grills?
BMW mechanic here. They fail all the time and cause the check engine to light up.