The BMW M4 CSL Is the Ultimate Modern M Car
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This is the BMW M4 CSL, the ultimate modern M car. Today I'm reviewing this BMW M4 CSL, and I'll show you all the many quirks and features. I'm also going to get behind the wheel of the BMW M4 CSL and show you what it's like to drive.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 CARS & BIDS!!!
00:16 THIS...
00:51 Overview: Changes to the CSL Model
01:19 Weight Savings
01:35 Powertrain
02:04 More Changes
02:48 Pricing
03:12 Wheels & Tires
03:54 Front End Design
05:17 Rear End Design
06:13 Badges as Far as the Eye Can See
07:28 Interior: Seats
08:54 More Excessive Badging
09:17 No Back Seats
10:06 Even More Weight Savings
10:33 More Interior Quirks & Features
11:06 Still a Heavy Vehicle
11:39 Slower Than the M4 Comp?
12:13 More Interior Features
14:32 Vroom Vroom
14:55 BMW Heritage Logo
15:41 Trunk
16:53 Driving Experience
17:32 It Beats You Up
18:20 Compared to a M4...
20:04 Steering & Handling
21:46 Final Thoughts
22:17 DougScore - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Fun fact: bmw went aggressive on the weight savings on this car to allow for the extra weight of all the badging
... and aggressive on the looks. They hired blind people to design it.
@@smaniznah I think it looks amazing
@@a_catfish5180because it's a Mustang, but a lot uglier. How were they so confident on presenting a front end design that looks like this "🐽". Even the Bangle eras are a lot better looking
@@jc_47 have you seen one in real life or been in one? They’re amazing cars
@@a_catfish5180 the Pig nose bmw design dickriding is crazy, I'd rather sacrifice myself on getting an Isetta though
Doug is the kind of guy who reads himself bedtime stories out loud before going to sleep.
i could image some of the words being louder than others too
THIS is the 1997 Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone...
Grow up
LMFAO@@staardrift7480
Shut up@@khouajaahmed5636
I would love to see someone take a regular m4 and spend the price difference between the CSL on performance parts and see which is better
Definitely a regular m4. You can already gain hundreds with just bolt ons and a tune
if course regular M4 will be a lot better, but when you tune the car it loses the value so if you want to get high performance M4 G82 without losing that much money you should go with the CSL version
of course the former, but I assume that isn't the target demographic
The CSL will gain value the M4 will lose it.
How the hell does tuning a car lower its value? if anything it increases it?@@lash1ta714
The M4 CSL, XM, and the 3.0 CSL Homage are without a doubt, the most controversial M cars to date with the M4 CSL being the "lesser offender" if you will. Also, the M Heritage badge is meant to commemorate 50 years of M.
I get that the XM Label Red is on its way and is supposedly going to be better in terms of performance, but the XM as a whole is honestly a huge slap in the face for BMW considering it's supposed to be the "successor" to the M1 from the late 70s to early 80s. Their first mistake was making it an SUV, and second, making it a plug-in hybrid. You can tell it's meant to be more of a status symbol than a true M car.
The 3.0 CSL Homage is a weird case as it's simply a re-bodied M4, that comes as a manual, has 10 more horsepower than the M4 CSL, it's limited to 50 units, and supposedly costs around $750,000.
I agree. BMW is doing some weird stuff lately. Their styling is not as good as the previous generation. That can be argued as "pushing boundaries" I guess. But what can't be argued is how disrespectful the XM is to BMW heritage and what it's supposed to be the successor of. Makes 0 sense. And this CSL is literally just a collectors piece. I'd rather have a regular M4 comp xdrive with a few kids it looks as good if not better than the CSL and actually has faster acceleration with a little tune
@@Sickwitit18I actually do like the new styling, it’s been out for years at this point and I’ve grown to like it. You are absolutely right about the M badge being overused tho. Reviews say the XM doesn’t even drive as good as an X5M despite being more expensive
surprised he didnt know about badging color meaning
@@nahlebnik9345 Maybe he does know, but forgot to mention it?
@@nahlebnik9345tbh it's so lame and tacky it shouldn't even be acknowledged
Saw one at my local dealer last week while getting an oil change. Looks much better in person. Service rep told me it has been there for 3 weeks waiting on the owner to pick it up.
I just don't see how this car really makes ANY sense? The standard M4 is a much better choice for a daily driver, and if you want a dedicated Track Car then there are far superior options for that as well... So I don't quite understand the point in buying a 'Luxury Sport Coupe' with ALL the luxury removed for exclusive track use when, as Doug says, you could get a proper 'Sports Car' like the GT2/GT3 instead!
So what this ends up being is a car that's impractical as a daily driver, while also not being focused enough to be a great candidate for exclusive Track Use...
I’d be trying to put off having to come back and look at that front end myself if I’d dropped it off.
@@StreetPreacherrI agree. I'm in love with the M4 but I'd rather get an xDrive comp with a little tune to get 0-60 in under 3seconds. This car is twice the price I feel like it's just an investment piece, but at that huge of a price idk how much it's going to increase in price.
To your point, if I wanted to spend $180k on a track car it'd be a Porsche most likely. Hell maybe even a Z06 over this. I feel like the reason why the owner hasn't picked up the car is because he doesn't plan on driving it much, saving it as an investment, and who will keep it in better shape than the dealership? He's using them as his storage facility for a while it sounds like haha
@@StreetPreacherr ridiculous car, ridiculously heavy too, for people with more money than sense
@@lasersailor6684 pretty much for fan boys thats it
Kudos to Doug for listening to our feedback and finally bringing back the detailed DougScore!
Doug is the type of guy to listen to his audience
I alwasy skip the doug score at the end tbh
@@PrecisionAcc see, when it exists, you have the option to ignore it. When it doesn't exist, everyone has to ignore it, and some can't. Doug shouldn't have removed it at all - it wasn'y even much work.
@@groundedgamingcompletely agree, I'm just suggesting as to why he removed it in the first place; saves him time if perhaps only a small % of his viewers ever even watch it
It's not as detailed as the original Dougscore. 👎
One thing I really appreciate in this car is the exhaust. The lack of pops and burbles and more of the engine sound is good to hear. The S58 imo sounds great and the excessive pops and burbles in the regular M cars doesn’t do it any justice.
I think the S58 sounds great too - waaaaaaaaay better than the S55 it replaced.
@@Enthusiastlist s55 owners punching the air when they hear no fart crackle tunes are better
If only it wasn't hideous. BMW is insisting on sticking with the giant nostril grill, they even put it on their electric cars.
@@jeffk464except the new M2… thankfully😅
@@v12-s65I’m an S55 owner and I love the sound. It’s still fast as hell and a great handling car.
The car is just BIG. If you told me 5 years ago this body was going to serve as the next 6 series I would have believed you.
@@ClickOnProfile765 Let me guess: you just need a few hundred dollars up front for shipping and handling. Get a real job, scammer.
Since E92 they just kept growing!
Cars have grown I don't like it but they grew for safety reasons. Which would you pick I know what I would
@@davidmitchell5638 lmao they kept growing since 03-05. My euro e28 weighs 2650lbs and is 4650mm long (183in) while the new 2 series is 3800lbs and 180in long
@@seanharrison6162 Consider me extremely skeptical… BMW needs SEVEN HUNDRED POUNDS of safety features to make the current M3 (non-CSL) safer than an E46 M3? Who knew the E46 was such an unsafe car?🤷🏻♂️
Of course, 700+lbs makes the car LESS safe for a number of reasons, but if that’s how they’re going to try to sell this to us…
Great looking German Mustang!!
That’s a BMW M8*
German supra you mean, wait...
@@jaimesegura7318 😂
100% think Mustang too
Mustang
Thank you for the detailed Doug Score. I love BMW´s but the CSL was never a daily driver and always more a collection edition - so totally agree. Kudos also that you did not mentioned the front grill - it has grown on me btw.
Front → looks like a Decepticon (Transformer)
Side → Looks like a Ford mustang
Rear → Looks like an Audi S5
Interior → Looks like a peugeot 208 (a little)
What an amazing..... Autentic desiegn :D
I thought mustang from the side too
your comment-- looks like a mercedes fanboy
The "THIS" in the beginning were so hilarious! I think he does these kinds of little things like on purpose as Doug is the kind of guy who loves his fans.
Really didn't like the intro. It has to start with THIS
There is a whole compilation of Doug saying "this!!!", out there. Don't miss it lol
HE BROUGHT BACK THE DETAILED BREAKDOWN ONCE AGAIN! THISSSSSSS IS AMAZING.
Easy to mistake this for the new Mustangs. They look VERY similar from the side profile.
First thing that came to my mind.
So... it looks like a Camaro? 😂
@@androiduberallesThe Camaro looks like the mustang 😂.
Man, you got that right! The front of the Mustang is better looking though
Good, I'm not the only one who sees it. BMW's coupes look very Mustang from the side.
Great video keep up the good work
The side view of this vehicle is stunning
i love the yellow runninglights, pays hommage to racecars. also for a 1000 car limited run, these are fantastic. you could argue that theyre too much on the regular m4 but on the csl it just fits
Was looking for exactly this comment! Agree 100%
I've seen people put these yellow lights on black M4 comps and it looks sooo fkn good on black! I'd rather get an M4 comp xdrive and put $20k of mods into it than have this collectors piece, but I've loved the m4 since the f82 first came out and I'm proud that BMW gave the "fastest BMW ever" title to an M4!
yeah surprising, you will see the classic yellow lights used on race cars going back to the 2002 and likely even older.... functionally speaking the yellow lights help cut through foggy conditions
also less strain on the eyesight for endurance racing @@user-tx6eb9vo9s
yes its a possibility to buy the modules and retrofit them into normal m4 headlights, ive also seen that @@Sickwitit18
A quick glance at the thumbnail and I thought this was a Mustang review
the M4 CSL has a total curb weight of 3,640 lbs (1,651 kg).
it's as big (and heavy) as a 67 Chevelle SS 396 @ ~3400 - 3500 lbs.
But it's power to weight is considerably better.
The M4 CSL will run high 10s in the 1/4 mile.
Funny how new ”extra light” high performance coupes are heavier than my 3 liter diesel wagon 330d from 2006.
@@kaisuhina8024 again, power to weight, and new technologies and comfort.
It’s a big, heavy (and very ugly) beast. I miss attractive and smaller BMW’s 😢
@@993mikethen look at an M2?
Holy hell, Doug owns pants!
It’s not just the pants. Doug now has a fashion statement. Buy Doug in stores near you.
I swear its like BMW felt the need to CSL badge everything to justify the price tag. It is a truly awesome car and I would take this over any Mercedes AMG or Audi product. With only 1000 examples being made I bet I'll manage to see one in my local market.
I would still get the M4 with Manual Transmission. And maybe do some modding with CSL and Competition parts.
Love the hedge trimmer / chainsaw in the background audio at 15:10
Would rather buy the new M3 CS. Way more usable cause of awd and four seats + its cheaper and arguably looks better
The CSL is a track oriented model. Why would someone buy it looking for practicality😂😂
@@trashin4kWhy would anyone buy a two-seat track car with the engine in the wrong place? 😂😂
Such a nice car, but I’m so much in love with my E46 CSL. Make me smile the moment I turn the ignition ❤️ and so beautiful 💕
But sure this is a fantastic car 👍🏻
Damn. You can get a C8 Z06 for this money... (Which is way superior in every regard)
Yeah, this car is too much money for what it is. What do I know, they sold them all. Value for money is not there. Z06 would be a better value for sure if there wasn’t an availability problem with them.
Yellow front lights reminds me of yellow front light u could see on cars in France many years ago, on cars made before 1993. They looked awesome
Loved the tail light wave😂
Have an endless list but Doug I hope you can review a Panoz Esperante. Neighbor had a blue example it was a thrill. Also 3rd gen q45 was a special car, a real sleeper w 340 hp and really engaging compared to the ls400 at the time.
Good recommendations. I’d also love to see a Lexus GS460
@@joekavalauskas8767 GS460's are pretty rare right? I thought i read somewhere that they only sold around 2000 of them.
this video makes me want an older m4 comp for some reason...
Some reason 🦫
@@spacetoast7783 🤣
I love that logo! Goes great with the colour scheme of the car
5:00 that looks AWSOME. I don’t know why anyone would hate them.
Very impressive car to see and hear in the flesh.
The tail lights look like a mix from the M4 & the new Supra imo, looks nice.
I thought the same 🤔
The side looks like a S550
It’s the first time I’ve seen Doug wearing slacks. There’s also a more stylish t-shirt and footwear. It seems Doug “da dork” is modifying his look which I think is cool. It reflects his success. The knowledgeable, precise car reviews are still there and that certainly helps a lot. Looking forward to more Doug.
"A more stylish T-Shirt" aka I got it for free at a paint store.
@@DougDeMuro Doug, you're the best
Thanks for keeping the reviews solo
great video
It also has a titanium backbox :) sounds dope
Nice to see BMW is making Ford Mustangs now
YES!!! I made the same comment!!!
Reminds me a lot of the BOSS 302 laguna seca, which I cannot believe Doug still have not reviewed yet
Doug, Doug, Doug, the yellow lights are one of the best things about it. :)
I really like how the new 3 and 4 series look, even the grill.
I hate the new m models bmw badge, so ugly, why did they have to ruin the bmw badge
The snout really doesn't look so bad in person. It looks worse in pictures. Although in person you can see that 1/3 of the grille is blocked off for the bumper beam so it doesn't really need the snout.
LOL, the side view looks like a Mustang!
You are not alone.
even the sticker on the hood is like the mach 1
Love the yellow gt3 inspired lights
the plates gave me a chuckle, b47 is the engine i have in my daily beater 4 series
This will a very special car. A lot of people are complaining about the styling and what could be done differently… Those same people will appreciate this car when they don’t offer M4s with engines anymore!
this generation of bmw's will never be looked back at fondly, not with that snout.
@@apaksl Agreed! I predict a massive market for aftermarket fixes to this abomination.
@@jasonk9779 its gonna be tricky since major cooling components are behind the pig grill and repositioning those components have already posed as a challenge. I hope someone figures it out.
They will appreciate the E92 and F80 M3’s and their wonderful motors, but not this ugly duckling
@@yonathanhailu9542 A third of the snout grille is blocked off, a little bigger than a Euro plate. BMW could have gone with traditional kidneys and an under-grille.
Regular M4 also has the same seats. And the reason why it has old screens is because it was built before LCI took place
IMO it would be so much better if there was only speedo. Would be cool without the entertainmentscreen
The Upgraded Carbon buckets in the M4/M3 are not the same buckets found in the CSL.
@@puravidacostarica200 True, cause in the competition you can adjust the angle from the back of the seat an on the standard csl seat you could not. But you could optional order the competition seat
@@max1727 Also the bolstering on the CLS is far more aggressive as well as the seat back design. I'm writing this while looking at my Carbon Buckets in my G80.
@@puravidacostarica200 broooo what a flex. Enjoy that beast. Thinking of getting myself an g87 with those buckets
I love doug‼️
DoctaM3 has one of these. I got a good look at it at PVGP this year. It’s sick.
Finally!!!!!!
BMW: Can we make our vehicles even more ugly?
BMW: Yes we can!
and other vehicles have abysmal tuning engine that isn't BMW-sourced? Yes they can!
Here in Germany we say: Hey BMW, was soll die hässliche Scheiße!??? @@baoquoc3710
it looks like mustang thats americas best selling car
It’s actually one of the best looking BMWs in years.
@@hassyg4083that’s not true, that’s the F150.
@15:47 What's with the monster trunk rails? My E36 M3 has narrow hinges that fold up nicely into the rain gutters.
Those seats are pure AWESOME.
Doug: the price is a really high figure
BMW: we sold out
it’s almost like Bimmer said, “let’s make a 4series as ostentatious and uncomfortable as possible then see how high of a price we can tag on it, limit its production then watch people hurry in line and pay over the already sky-high price for it”. 😂
I absolutely think that BMW is testing how much their customer base is willing to tolerate when it comes to aesthetics. Essentially, let's see how ugly we can make these before sales start taking a hit.
@@taylorpilewski People buy these cars to show off, it makes you feel silly showing off a super ugly car. Frankly, I think I'd rather have a mustang.
I live in a pretty big military town, so there's a few M4 around. One is black out I front, so it looks great because you can't see the grill 😅
Doug, you should do a review on the E46 M3 CSL!
Love the stripped down build and lightweight design focus....but they're doing way too much with the colors. It looks like what I'd imagine an M4 looking after it's been passed down to its 4th owner, has a salvaged title and full of Autozone accessories.
I was looking for the right words, and you absolutely nailed it. Cut 9 more lbs if you get rid of all the tacky badging. It’s so, so garish. It looks like something a 17 year old would do to a Civic if you gave them $2000 to spend on cheap lighting and plastic fender vents. Anyone that doesn’t know cars would easily confuse this with a teenagers “custom” build. Anyone who knows cars would notice a subtle badge and doesn’t need the car to scream with a megaphone on top of a mountain. There are plenty of tacky people with money. I’m sure this car is sold out already. Maybe I’m just getting old lol. This car is not remotely aspirational to me and genuinely makes me think less of the BMW brand. Oh and side note, to anyone who says this front end design style has grown on them, congratulations on giving up on your dreams and settling 😂
@@EdwardTheMortgageGuyI feel like this car made for all the tech, crypto or trust funds bros. It’s just an expensive exterior kit and probably sold on future car auctions as a collectible 20 years later
What a beast but hearing Doug say the M4 GTS was a failure hurts my heart 😢
Agreed, I loveee my m4 GTS it’s an animal!
What a beautiful machine!
Hello Doug thanks for the video, if you take any requests I would love to see you review the new 2023 colorado zr2, thanks :D
I don't care what Doug says, saying that the M4 looks above average is the same as saying that the Multipla isn't ugly.
Idk man, i dont like the look of this thing either. Its not even the front, i like it on the m3.. All of the styling looks like its created for the younger crowd. There is no elegance. Those M4 CSL stickers....
I love the M4 and even I know it doesn't look amazing. It looks good to me because I've learned to love it, but objectively I understand it doesn't look great. Mainly the front. However, a modified frozen black M4 with yellow lights and extra aero like the one Tunercult gave away not a long ago looks perfect. Even objectively it looks good. And if you look at an M4 with the Adro body kit it fixes the front grill and makes it look way better
It's getting real hard to tell these and Mustangs apart at a glance at thumbnail size.
I thought I would be the only person to notice that.
Pictures and videos don't do this car justice. Saw one in person at a dealership and this thing looks legendary
It’s looks crazy good in person. Makes a lot of stuff look super pedestrian and boring.
Yellow drl is soooo rad! Big 24h vibes
Totally agree on the heritage roundel design not being great.
Doug the kind of guy would wears Power Rangers PJs
Thanks, now I can't get that picture out of my head. You're going to hell for that
@Doug DeMuro: These models and years are for real. Good job reviewing this one pimp.
@@GrindSultanYou're right. He usually does do that. I ignore it. I just enjoy looking at it.
I kinda like the yellow running lights honestly!! 👽🛸
Doug is the kind of guy who has a lot of viewers writing "Doug is the kind of guy" jokes in the TH-cam comments section.
A lot of the lowest IQ viewers annoying millions with these stupid comments
I showed my wife the side profile and asked her what she thought it was, and she said, "Is that the new Mustang?"
Says it all really, doesn't it?
Mustang with BMW badges
@@18rollinhard Mustang looks good
Really says that your wife doesnt know shit about cars
Both cars look amazing so what’s the issue?
@@kraenk12 It's pretty obvious, isn't it? The fact you can buy 6 new Mustangs for the price of an M4 CSL.
All of Doug's top extreme trim reviews end up being filmed in the rain 😂😂. You'd think it was the UK.
16:17 - isn't that on top chassy bracing or whatever it's called? It looks like an extra metal bar that could add stiffness to the chassy.
When the E46 M3 CSL came out I lusted after it. I ended up buying a MY 2006 M3 Competition Package in late 2005 which was the closet that I could get in the US. I'm sure that this car is more capable - but it's approximately 600lbs heavier. I didn't feel anything but disappointment watching you cover everything.
Wonder why they decided to bring back the CSL trim as opposed to GTS. M4 GTS was disappointing, but the M3 GTS was the coolest M car of this generation. Doubt they could live up to that in today's car climate, but would be interesting to see them try in addition to this badge-monster CSL.
Hell naa, e90 CRT was better than e92 gts
I’m hoping they make the G82 M4 GTS. Would love an M4 GT4 with plates.
Finally u also mention nm
That's a nice looking Mac 1
Side profile looks like a Mustang.
Rear looks like an Infiniti.
Front looks like 🐽
😂😂
Doug the type of guy to use hand sanitizer after just washing his hands.
Some health departments actually suggest that restaurant workers do that before continuing to make your food after doing other stuff like using the bathroom
That's some mean looking machine. 👍
Looks good and sounds better
they managed to make the grill worse
Imagine paying 140K for this car 🤯
When Doug talks about his website he sounds like he's about to crack up after every word :)
the yellow running lights make it look like a hotwheels... pretty cool
The American muscle car motif has been slowly, but surely, been making their way into the German motif of performance models. Ya, ya, the comparison has been long in the tooth, but you have to admit, this M4 CSL definitely has some special edition Mustang angles to it.
It would look incredibly in Black and Yellow
Basically any color at all would be an improvement over light gray.
I thought this was supposed to be a Mustang review? - looks exactly like it.
That carbon hood is so dope . BMW is the best
Most people may say that the front end is ugly and compared to the previous generations the design is very different and interesting. But as time went on I found that the design has grown on me a lot and has actually became my favorite of the current generations. 😃
Only in black I find it attractive. But its ugly don't kid yourself. Especially the non M variants.
This car is literally putting lipstick on a pig
@@clout_city cars are inanimate objects unable to do such things. But I get what you are saying. lol
A drag race with the M4 CSL and the M5 CS and the M8 Competition would be awesome 🙏
Edit: Maybe you can organize a Mercedes GT63 AMGs E-Performance and let it compete against the two fastest of the three cars 😁 So we not only have an internal BMW comparison, but also a comparison with the competitor. I would suggest taking a C63 AMGs, but the new one will only appear in a few months 🙄
Ask carwow
why did you put 'edit' if it's not even edited-
Wrong channel 🤦
we already know what the outcome would be😂 m5, m8, m4
M3 cs would smoke every car except the m8. The m4 csl is fast af too but more track focused
loving the "Captain Scarlet" bmw logo badging
That’s why from a weight point of view, the ///M2C is probably the best option but even that is gradually increasing in weight too
Doug the kind of guy who eats Mexican food to get sick on purpose.
Maybe you're thinking of Indian food?
@@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365your so wrong Indian food is crafted by God. Get a chicken tiki Marsala it will change your life.
@mrcrackerjacks5788 arhe have you ever tried biryani ??? That's the tastiest thing in the world.
@@mrcrackerjacks5788love that u like it 😭😭 made my day
@mrcrackerjacks5788 yes, I understand every culture has a few good items to eat, I'm a picky eater so I don't even like most American food.
either way, at the age of 45 I've never heard american people saying Mexican food gives you diarrhea, they usually refer to Indian food and or taco bell specifically.
Heavy, ugly, impractical. Why buy this when a GT3 exists?
And it's an auto.
They can throw as much carbon fibre tat at that as they like, it's still boggingly ugly.
Some people must just have a LOT of passion for the CSL model? Because you're correct, that as Doug points out, the model is OUTCLASSED as a dedicated Track Car, while also being completely impractical as a Daily Driver.
13:17 is it normal for the car that the tires be low pressure? I have a 335i and the manual recommends around 38-40 psi
Doug is the kind of guy to go on a weight loss journey to save weight for his car
huge fail on trying to be even a little funny
@@slowery43 look at all your recent comments. They’re all hate 😂😂 who hurt you buddy?
@@slowery43 I thought it was a lot of funny. After all, every pound matters so a lighter driver will be faster.
Bloated, ugly and overpriced - yup definitely a modern M car.
Seeing the side profile i was pretty sure this was the Mustang CSL 😆
I actually really like that Heritage Logo it's draws my eye seeking attention lol
14:44 What is that weird sound that you can hear after the rev, as the RPMs start to come down???