Tesla Model 3 Performance 1000 km challenge

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  • @jamesellis4899
    @jamesellis4899 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I absolutely LOVE the 1000km challenge …. You are best EV tester. You are responsible for me owning only EV’s. Wonderful experience thus far.

    • @leokowalski
      @leokowalski ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here! 😄👍🏻

  • @slartybartfarst9737
    @slartybartfarst9737 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Been watching the 1000km challenge since day 1. If you ever need to gauge how EVs are improving well Bjorns data tells it how it is. Thank you Bjorn you are the gold standard, the next few years of Chinese cars we now have the default comparison tool no BS...1000km challenge going to be real interesting

  • @ericvet8b
    @ericvet8b ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Efficiency is king! Tesla for the win!!
    (Made me laugh the “I’ll stop recording so I can hammer them…” 😝😝)

  • @mlang4644
    @mlang4644 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    On a recent roadtrip I remarked, that Tesla even adjusted the charging curve of my old P85D. It‘s now consistently charging with 130 kW 100kW until 20%. Then it degrades. So the

  • @crazydrifter13
    @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I'm waiting for the Lada guys to comment here 😂

    • @joakimlundberg8160
      @joakimlundberg8160 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yep, that was us 🤣🤣🤣 passing by from Smögen to Tjörn on a holiday trip from Halmstad

    • @crazydrifter13
      @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@joakimlundberg8160 finally...great that you guys were having a lot of fun 😂🤟🏼

    • @latlak
      @latlak ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joakimlundberg8160 that was a sweet M5 Comp

  • @deas1972
    @deas1972 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love every Model 3-videos! I have never driven an Model X or Model S - would be interesting how -22 versions behave thesedays

  • @stennordenmalm1735
    @stennordenmalm1735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...turning indicator comes as standard...Ha ha, good one Björn👍

  • @EldarGezalov
    @EldarGezalov ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Impressive! Would be great to see the new LR model test as well!

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Since the LR uses the LG 79kWh pack with a worse charging curve than this "old" Q1 Panasonic Performance, I think it will have a hard time beating it.
      If a comparison is made, then @bjørnnyland should make sure it has the new 3D7 rear motor for best efficiency.

    • @sworksm552
      @sworksm552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lastnightsfavorite where can I find the information about the motor?

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sworksm552 VIN Digit 8 or your COC or looking behind your aft left wheel on the motor placard.

    • @sworksm552
      @sworksm552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lastnightsfavorite cool and what letter does the new motor have?

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sworksm552 depends on your car. In a Long Range it's a K in the performance an L, in the RWD it's J or S. Those are all the new Hairpin Motors.

  • @moestrei
    @moestrei ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The dominance becomes obvious when you weight the results with the purchase price of the car.

    • @wr238
      @wr238 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m curious about how these batteries will hold up once they have 150K/175K/200K miles on them? From what I’ve read charging with level 3 chargers at 250 KW too often could degrade the battery and therefore its efficiency over time vs let’s say putting a 150K/175K/200K miles on a Toyota Camry. I still drive fossil fueled cars and I have the mindset of range anxiety. I couldn’t imagine driving an EV to 5% or 2%. In order for me to consider getting a Tesla or another EV I would need to see a major overhaul and expansion of charging networks here where I live in the USA and improved energy density for batteries that go in EVs. 300/350 miles is not enough range YET for me to consider owning an Tesla or another EV. Everyone talks down on fossil fueled cars but I wonder what percentage of all EV chargers worldwide are actually powered by clean and sustainable energy? I’m definitely looking forward to the future of EV technology and battery technology in regards to improving energy density. I hope one day we will actually see batteries that don’t degrade too much until 500K or a million miles.

  • @crazydrifter13
    @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    6:43 How is he having no range anxiety at 0.53% battery level in a car while driving on the highway 😂

    • @foobar6846
      @foobar6846 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Still a good 20km or more left in the buffer!

    • @Jeroenneman
      @Jeroenneman ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Supercharger network. I've driven to Superchargers with less than 10km range remaining, no problem. Because you can rely on them to work. Ionity in this video: worked, but charging speed borked.

    • @Air-ic279
      @Air-ic279 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When u know it is all downhill to the charger.

    • @crazydrifter13
      @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh. In these 3 comments above I found 3 reasons for why he wasn't worried 🤟🏼 looks like the car was maintaining Highway speed at 0.53 percent which is very impressive too.

    • @GreenDriveIndia
      @GreenDriveIndia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He said it is downhill, even my 30 kw ev can easily go 3 km downhill though not at high speed

  • @muhammadmohsin5109
    @muhammadmohsin5109 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This car Charges faster to 50% than my phone.

  • @donphobos
    @donphobos ปีที่แล้ว +10

    250 kWh / h, that was beautiful 😀

  • @henrikjx
    @henrikjx ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah.. just wonderful being spoiled with all this fantastic content!

  • @petersilva037
    @petersilva037 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    my 2019 m3 super charges about twice as fast this summer vs. last year. Tesla revised the charging curves. You should re-test old Teslas also... Not sure how much of this in '22 improvement.

    • @pauliusjoksas7593
      @pauliusjoksas7593 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol u need to take in to account that 50% is not anymore the same amount of kwh because of battery degradation.

    • @Mike-kr5dn
      @Mike-kr5dn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauliusjoksas7593 there is almost no degradation in 3 years.

    • @egil-andrenessmortensen3037
      @egil-andrenessmortensen3037 ปีที่แล้ว

      if its measured in kW (charging speed) I guess degradation is meaningless in this matter as well.......

  • @ar-2-r
    @ar-2-r ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Bjorn, I love your content. Short question: the higher the average speed, the faster 1000 km is done. Is the average speed mainly influenced by the time spend on charging, thus efficiency? It is not apparent form data. Would appreciate your feedback.

  • @TheGreekSneak
    @TheGreekSneak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent upload 🙏💯👍

  • @Sddd5435
    @Sddd5435 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please do the test again with the real 2022 Model - you had the 82kwh Panasonic battery. But since Q2 it’s the new LG battery in Model 3 Performance - the charging Performance with the new standard battery would be interesting for 1000km test

    • @thomasmartha4673
      @thomasmartha4673 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know?

    • @Sddd5435
      @Sddd5435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasmartha4673 I know it cause I have the real new 2022 model - I also had a 2021 and a 2020 - in the German Tesla Forum we have very good data base to all models.

    • @egil-andrenessmortensen3037
      @egil-andrenessmortensen3037 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know the kWh capacity of the LG battery pack?

  • @rui569
    @rui569 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder why it is the best selling sedan. Maybe it is... good.

  • @NathanaelDK
    @NathanaelDK ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content ❤️ you may want to be more careful with the distances you show when going over the speed limit. It is pretty easy for someone to see how long it took you to travel 1km and work out you were averaging around 130 km/h at 15 mins in the video. Anyways keep up the good work and all the best with the family

  • @lambosuperl
    @lambosuperl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow that's a crazy time... Tesla is still King!

  • @storresfalcon
    @storresfalcon ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would like to see a 1000km test on Kia EV6 AWD and BMW I4 M50 in warm temps to have a fair comparison with Teslas. Model Y LR has similar stats with KIA both in cold weather, I assume they are close in warm weather too.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I requested to borrow both of them.

  • @nohcam22
    @nohcam22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love some DP with some DP

  • @rhydlew
    @rhydlew ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:20 for a future "Dirty Bjorn" supercut

  • @phonehoppy
    @phonehoppy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing result - Tesla still leads in efficiency at long-distance travel speeds. The new Model 3 LR with 18" aero wheels should do it in even shorter time..

    • @hardywoodaway9912
      @hardywoodaway9912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if the battery is the same size, than yes. or if you put 18‘s on the P

    • @phonehoppy
      @phonehoppy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hardywoodaway9912 You cannot put 18“ on the P because of the brake size.

  • @jakob7922
    @jakob7922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey i saw you at the gasstation in Skee!

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Famous Bjorn.

  • @shithead4767
    @shithead4767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the music 🎶 🎵 🕺💃

  • @NordicProspecting
    @NordicProspecting ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do Halmstad next time, they just built like 20 250 kw superchargers there

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Look at the map. It's bad position for the 1000 km challenge.

  • @Sticowater
    @Sticowater ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to review the food also. Missed that

  • @Matt-dx3wo
    @Matt-dx3wo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bjorn can you try a 1000 km challenge with a hitch mount bike rack with two bikes? Would the aero advantage offered by the M3 mean than it loses proportionally more range vs say an Ioniq 5? Not to add more work for you or anything, but hauling stuff outside the vehicle is a real concern for lots of people!

    • @nakfan
      @nakfan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be a great and a relevant test.

  • @freestymc
    @freestymc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when it comes to traveling speed probably the best M3 that will ever be produced. The LG is already at its limit charging speed.

  • @rui569
    @rui569 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For all the other chargers providers: stop messing around. Copy Tesla.

    • @martink.9442
      @martink.9442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got absolutely no problem with EnBW, Aral, Ionity, Fastned.

    • @rui569
      @rui569 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@martink.9442 not enough chargers

    • @Jeroenneman
      @Jeroenneman ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@martink.9442 I absolutely do. Most just have a pathetic 4-6 stalls per location. In vacation times, those locations are crowded in no time. Meanwhile Tesla has locations with 20+ chargers.

    • @martink.9442
      @martink.9442 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jeroenneman Did I need 20+ chargers? Nope.

  • @Ianmundo
    @Ianmundo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never thought I’d be a Tesla guy but objectively there’s not better alternatives. I own a Model Y Long Range and although it’s not perfect, the ride is too rough, everything else is superb. I ordered a Berlin Model Y Performance because the ride is better

  • @krischi8324
    @krischi8324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Test!!! Please keep it up, I love how we can compare different EVs 1:1
    BUT: Now that we/you are soooo close to the fossil (only 15 min apart), can we really compare it to the fossil? The Kia had 2 refueling stops + pee pee (- you deducted lunch). The Tesla had 4 stops each approx 15 min. For it to be really comparable to the fossil, with 4 charging stops, you should not be able to come closer than 30 min to the fossil, right?
    IMHO: Humans must eat and pee during 1000 km, so deducting the 25 min is already a present for the fossil and we can say that EVs are the same speed already, as ~1 h for breaks is simply necessary, when travelling in a safe and healthy way.

  • @tomasj719
    @tomasj719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With current charging speed, I dont always have enough time to have lunch with my Model 3 SR :D

  • @JackPan
    @JackPan ปีที่แล้ว

    What will the range be like if you put standard 18 inch aero wheels on it? Will it be the same as long range?

  • @jochenlewalder9908
    @jochenlewalder9908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should test theEQS 450+.

  • @traveldavid6085
    @traveldavid6085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Haircut 👍

  • @john94si
    @john94si ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you show the efficiency but in kw/miles please for the 3p?

  • @nakfan
    @nakfan ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing...

  • @thomasjacques5286
    @thomasjacques5286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One needs to ask yourself do you want RANGE from battery SIZE or EFFICIENCY? In most cases all the really LONG RANGE EV's have BIGGER batteries that weigh and cost MORE. I'll take efficiency and a great DCFC charging network every time. The 4680 batteries and hopefully V4 Super Chargers will move the bar again.

    • @danielburges8176
      @danielburges8176 ปีที่แล้ว

      efficiency also comes from aerodynamics, clever management of heat (tightly integrated battery, stator, motor and cabin heat/cooling), sophisticated power control electronics and very good motors. Tesla has a lead in all of those areas over the OEMs too.

  • @kennethsvard8611
    @kennethsvard8611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Björn…done any trip with video to Nordkapp?

  • @Caedin8
    @Caedin8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought and love my EV6, but I’d really love to see it retested in these summer weather. It was 3 degrees when you did the RWD kia EV6 which doesn’t even have a heat pump!
    I get 241 kw charging up to 40% and then solid 170 kw up to 80%!
    It should rival Tesla with good conditions. If not I’ll go buy a Tesla! Haha

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      241 kW is from the charger. 230ish kW goes into the battery after losses + battery heater + AC.

    • @Frosticus453
      @Frosticus453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which Tesla though? Like this is a ~500hp AWD monster cruising down the hwy in "sport mode" (full power available) and still producing impressive efficiency. An EV6 rwd putting in eco mode isn't really a comparison of apples.

    • @FreeMountainTom
      @FreeMountainTom ปีที่แล้ว

      Eco mode does not limit the power on the EV6. You just have a less sharp throttle respone which can help to save energy. It will also try to save a little energy by not running the AC all the time but in intervalls. For the 1k challenge it will not matter if you take AWD or RWD KIA EV6 when the wheels/tires are the same on the AWD. With steady driving the weight extra of the AWD does not effect consumption. Front motor is decoupled.
      This beeing said I would also like to see EV6 summer test 1000km challenge. Should be around 9hrs30min.

  • @alexanderhansen7981
    @alexanderhansen7981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black pillars on a white car? Cool, but is that some cind of white delete? Foile?

  • @jon-kennethklemmetsmo2877
    @jon-kennethklemmetsmo2877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So. If ny budget is 500k / 50-55k dollars. Ionic / ionic 5 / tesla. Used / New. What do i get?

  • @schunkelndedschunke6914
    @schunkelndedschunke6914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont care about the best (1000km) BEVs without having access to the large battery energy (230V AC, V2Device) or having a practical tailgate. Sorry Tesla, sorry M3. Love my EV6 AWD. Change it, then we have a deal in a few years.

  • @terryrodbourn2793
    @terryrodbourn2793 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't worry here in America cold States we call Summer construction season!

  • @pasihaaraoja68
    @pasihaaraoja68 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Very important info. For your info we swap our ID.3 to Tesla Model 3! In our usage Tesla is more faster to travel. ID.3 isn't bad car but for our driving profile isn't the best one. Some one that would be the best.

  • @stricardo1
    @stricardo1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Bjorn. Great to see your channel growing and the content getting better and better.
    Would it be possible to test the cars from the MG company? More affordable for most yet still look good.

    • @jakubchodilek6882
      @jakubchodilek6882 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally I am waiting for Bjorn to test the newest mg models and then I decide if I go for zs long range or mg5🤣

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Last thing I heard from MG was that their software needs improvements.

  • @fredpinczuk7352
    @fredpinczuk7352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every single time is see a headline that start with "XXX brand launches new Tesla Killer" Or "Tesla looses edge on EV tech". I just start laughing and send to Spam box.

  • @RobertPuklin
    @RobertPuklin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, so difference between an ICE and EV on 1000 km comes to 10 minutes.
    Game Over moment.

    • @basedw
      @basedw ปีที่แล้ว

      Until you go faster. 130-150kmh would be interesting to compare ev/ice

    • @RobertPuklin
      @RobertPuklin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@basedw agreed, but then comparison should be done with an equivalent 500-600 HP ICE, not some econobox.

    • @tomes3378
      @tomes3378 ปีที่แล้ว

      have it start the test with a low battery and end with a fully charged one, then we'll see the time

    • @RobertPuklin
      @RobertPuklin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tomes3378 in reality, the majority of EV drivers can charge at home and starting with 100% every morning is part of the package.
      Also, charging at destination is often possible.
      One interesting metric would be how much time yearly is spent as overhead for charging / fueling.
      Then again, there would be so many factors and a broad distribution, with EVs being at the both tail ends.
      When going from my inland home to a seaside apartment, only 5-6 minutes in between are spent on charging (and to grab a coffee).

    • @LarsFrimer
      @LarsFrimer ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even close yet. Most diesel cars can easy do 1100-1200 km without refueling at highway speed. In Germany you can easy do +500 km in 3 hours, in night drives on A7 or A9. So EV’s has to able to do it around 7 hours, in Germany, to be on par.

  • @jordizaragosa2154
    @jordizaragosa2154 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello..i am confused. the day before u were testing a LR with boost and Überturbine-wheels..and the very next day u tested a "M3 performance" on 1000 km..did u change the cars overnight on very short notice?..or is it the same car? meaning u were using a M3 LR with boost and Überturbine on 1000 km?..if so, does this mean that with the boost comes the charging curve like a M3 performance?.. holding 250 kw for a longer period is a feature of the real M3 performance with the panasonic 3L..or is the M3 LR with his LG 5L is now upgraded with the boost to a charging performance for maintaining 250 kw for a longer period now?..can u verify?

    • @nielsvandenkieboom5034
      @nielsvandenkieboom5034 ปีที่แล้ว

      He just swaps around cars all the time. His sponsor Marcusbil rents out and sells EV’s so he usually borrows from his fleet. This is 100% a M3 performance, not a LR.

  • @spoila-autosfinanzenundmeh2318
    @spoila-autosfinanzenundmeh2318 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the incredible test! Is this M3P equipped with the LG or Panasonic battery?

    • @T1noxx
      @T1noxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Panasonic, so no new cars will be delivered like that.
      We need tests with Performance and LG battery

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว

      This was supposed to be a Q1 car -> Panasonic!

    • @mbartolotto
      @mbartolotto ปีที่แล้ว

      @@T1noxx how many kWh are in the current M3P batteries for Europe?

    • @sworksm552
      @sworksm552 ปีที่แล้ว

      The VIN shows LRW Chinese model at the beginning 18:46, so should be a LG battery.

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sworksm552Q2/2022 is the first quarter of M3 Performance cars with LG battery packs. The last three quarters from China were all Panasonic's.

  • @lampiditesla
    @lampiditesla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great test. The longest range Model 3 Performance should be the 2021 with heat pump and Panasonic 82kWh battery

  • @CommanderPiglet
    @CommanderPiglet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DrPepper er digg!

  • @freestymc
    @freestymc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    faster then the LR because of faster 250kW charging of the Panasonic 3L, in comparison to LG 5L in the LR

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว

      The long range that was just 5 minutes slower was a LR from Q2/2021 with the same Panasonic battery pack. It's probably slower because of the old wire motor, charging speed updates and more dense V3 network.

    • @freestymc
      @freestymc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lastnightsfavorite you're probably right, the LR 82kWh is a real unicorn.

    • @lastnightsfavorite
      @lastnightsfavorite ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freestymc in Europe it sure is. More power, charging speed and capacity than any LG battery pack to date.

  • @stuartbarker6668
    @stuartbarker6668 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If anyone thinks the measure of a car is just the drag strip performance you clearly don't understand cars and what it takes to be a good one.

  • @leanderdiedrich4610
    @leanderdiedrich4610 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    101% ?? Yeah why not😂👍

    • @crazydrifter13
      @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Extra Elon juice in New battery 😂

  • @cryptoslackerrob-464
    @cryptoslackerrob-464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm confused . I thought te performance had almost 600km range 🤔 why 4 stops

  • @theredbaron7302
    @theredbaron7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tesla dominance Indeed. They win even on average temperature 🤣

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That small difference wouldn't explain the huge increase in consumption. In fact, Tesla is way less affected by low temperatures than the legacy automakers because of octovalve.

  • @OmgEinfachNurOmg
    @OmgEinfachNurOmg ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Isn't it necessary to update Kia Ceed test? Your routes always change

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Did you not watch that video yet?

  • @jooptablet1727
    @jooptablet1727 ปีที่แล้ว

    And this one doesn't even have the front gigacasting or the structural battery pack🤯

  • @rhydlew
    @rhydlew ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maybe on this occasion the pesky left lane hoggers actually saved you time, as it meant you could make it straight to Varberg

  • @lordavgustin
    @lordavgustin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice passport

  • @DavidKent0407
    @DavidKent0407 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice haircut

  • @evaddicted3224
    @evaddicted3224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do really want a Tesla 3, unfortunately the cheapest Tesla 3 SR costs 48500 pounds in England. Having owned non Tesla 3 EVs so far, the next one it is going to be Tesla.

  • @JeremiahTownsend
    @JeremiahTownsend ปีที่แล้ว

    Who said it, Kratos or Bjørn?
    “Uhhh? Wait. Look at this. Norwegians. Shiiiiit. Let me turn off the camera so I can hammer them.”

  • @markgeezey1809
    @markgeezey1809 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, but I think looking at the temperatures for say the EV6 or other superfast charging cars. It was much colder. So maybe a new test in these summer temps for EV6 or Ioniq 5. I know EV6 guys are getting super fast charging speeds now that it is summer and it did break a record in crossing the US. Appreciate the EV6 or Ioniq5 is nowhere near as efficient, but superfast charging could maybe make up some of this? 🤷🏻‍♂️then it would give a fairer comparison against Tesla for cars that had the 1000km in the winter months only.

    • @sworksm552
      @sworksm552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Model Y was still faster and the temperature was lower.

    • @markgeezey1809
      @markgeezey1809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sworksm552 i think if you check back the Model Y was at 13-21c. The EV6 was at 6-7c. The point is at lower temps the EV6 takes much longer to charge. However at higher temps it gets 230kw and can maintain that level for much longer than a Tesla. I am not saying it would beat it. But it has set records and in warm weather is bloody quick and to do a fair comparison it needs to be tested in similar weather. Warm weather for the EV6 makes a big difference as the Tesla is more efficient.

    • @sworksm552
      @sworksm552 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markgeezey1809 he had tested it also @ minus degrees

    • @TechSavvyOppa
      @TechSavvyOppa ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought earlier Bjorn did a video where he complained about the thermal throttling of the EV6 in the summer, where if he had the cabin AC on, it wasn't able to cool the battery sufficiently causing it to throttle charging... Similarly, when he got back on the highway, the battery was still 50 degrees C, causing the motors to thermal throttle to 60kW or something like that... I think there's a whole video he created on the EV6/Ioniq 5 charging issues...

    • @markgeezey1809
      @markgeezey1809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechSavvyOppa it wasn’t a Summer video and the temperatures were still quite cold. Unfortunately the car was not available last summer. There have been many updates to the software since and especially in relation to the heat pump. Plus I believe the next update due is preheating the battery before arriving at a destination charger very similar to what Polestar have done and Tesla has done for years. Many people have reporting fantastic charging speeds and it would be interesting now to see a similar temperature comparison. Especially considering the improvements a lot of manufacturers have made since the initial release of their cars.

  • @GimataYT
    @GimataYT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Björn thanks for the great video. Tesla is really ahead.
    But I have a short question:
    My wife and I become parents in Q1 2023 and we need a car in this year because the german government is likely to end the EV promotion by the end of this year. That’s about 10k€. It’s not sure but unfortunately it’s likely.
    So we ordered a Model 3 SR in March but it comes in Q1. Now we’re thinking to go for a Polestar 2 SR because it would come in this year (with full promotion).
    Besides these facts, what would your choose? Model 3 is the better EV, Polestar 2 is somewhat the „better legacy car“ in terms of optic and look and feel imho.
    Wish you a great Sunday and greetings from Germany.

    • @RobertPuklin
      @RobertPuklin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You have got a reservation.
      If the car can be registered in 2022 still, take delivery and enjoy.
      If the car will gets pushed to 2023, depending on the changes in subsidy policy, you can decline delivery (and just lose the reservation fee).
      I'd wait and see, Tesla's production ought to have a big spike on Q3/Q4.

    • @nielsvandenkieboom5034
      @nielsvandenkieboom5034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All I will add to the other comment is: my colleague with a Polestar 2 is trading it in and taking the train to customers now because he hates it. All my colleagues with a Model 3 (myself included) never want anything but a Tesla anymore.

  • @donphobos
    @donphobos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that you keep the passport ready, so that at the border there is no wasted time for looking for the passport. Always be better flow 🙂

    • @Ahvenmeister
      @Ahvenmeister ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is hiding the speedometer ;)

  • @Radium3D
    @Radium3D ปีที่แล้ว

    Whaaaat I got a haircut too!

  • @traveldavid6085
    @traveldavid6085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I freaking love Dr Pepper

  • @simonplait5531
    @simonplait5531 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There should be the option to decrease the supercharger speed when the charger isn’t too crowded. On my last road trip it happened to me twice that I went to eat during the charge and when I came back to the car it was at 95% +. I think it would be much better for the battery to charge at only 100kw when you opt to do so.

    • @xWinstonski
      @xWinstonski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can set max charge %. Tesla optimizes for what you choose, it you go avove 90% the charging speed will taper down accordingly

    • @xWinstonski
      @xWinstonski ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerstarkey5390 Tesla already balances degradation and charge speed, so there is no point.

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You would just make others wait longer for their turn

    • @geraldsitorus
      @geraldsitorus ปีที่แล้ว

      But again from infrastructure point of view, they would want to ‘get rid’ of you asap. So that next car can use the charger. Yes maybe at that moment it’s not crowded, but as nobody can predict traffic and charging need, they still have to pump out at full speed. Best for you in this case to set it to 90% max, then if the car says 35 min remaining, put that as an alarm. Once it’s there, get the car out of the charging spot.

    • @ButterNutter37
      @ButterNutter37 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand what you're asking for and why, but IMO that would be a bad idea. Not everyone is going to be responsible with that setting. It would be like headlight high beams!

  • @mjmellock
    @mjmellock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Pepper is delicious but the sugar is a problem.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a problem since I only drink one can every 3-6 months.

  • @amolaksinghsunnerd4999
    @amolaksinghsunnerd4999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting closer to the fossil car.

  • @T1noxx
    @T1noxx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please redo this with Model 3 2022 Performance with LG battery!
    Thx for the video

  • @firstnamelastname5295
    @firstnamelastname5295 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a whole trip of 1000km you only need to charge for 15 min. That's very very impressive

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Total charging time was more than 15 minutes. Didn't you watch the video?

    • @firstnamelastname5295
      @firstnamelastname5295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjornnyland Unfortunately I did only watch the results at the end. But if the model 3 needs to charge much longer than 15min so maybe it is a good idea to check the result of the fossil car again? I mean fossil car needs 9h for 1000km and the model 3 needs 9h and 15min for the same distance. That why im thinking the model 3 only needs 15 min for charging. Or maybe I did overlook something?

    • @ohutchie
      @ohutchie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firstnamelastname5295 Even an ICE car needs (at least one) fuel stop, bathroom and snack breaks, etc. And Bjørn is just a single traveler, imagine the extra breaks you'd need to take with multiple people in the car, kids, or pets. That's one of the reasons why EV charging times aren't as big of a deal as people think. When you've got a car that can charge hundreds of km in 15 minutes, a bathroom break can give you enough energy for the next leg of the trip.

    • @firstnamelastname5295
      @firstnamelastname5295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ohutchie I remember that the time of the fossil car was deducted by 25min due to that stuff, didnt it?

  • @joanjoan8163
    @joanjoan8163 ปีที่แล้ว

    ma una domanda? la corrente chi te la paga x fare 1000 km? I like di TH-cam?👍

  • @manuelbieri6169
    @manuelbieri6169 ปีที่แล้ว

    Especially with kids, the car is usually faster in charging then we make a pee and food break.

  • @kiitalk
    @kiitalk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do a standard full fossil car for reference? We can see how EVs are approaching fossil range.

    • @NealMcQuaid
      @NealMcQuaid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See the table near the very end - it’s all benchmarked against a plug-in hybrid (which for long drive is essentially just a combustion engine car).

    • @kiitalk
      @kiitalk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NealMcQuaid or maybe worse by toting the extra components. Still want to see full fossil on it.

    • @latlak
      @latlak ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah a diesel would be great !

  • @adamlunden9575
    @adamlunden9575 ปีที่แล้ว

    So preformens is fast

  • @JV-py3lg
    @JV-py3lg ปีที่แล้ว

    212Wh/km? That converts to 131wh/mi?

    • @danielbukowski
      @danielbukowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

      339wh/mile

    • @JV-py3lg
      @JV-py3lg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielbukowski guess I did the math backwards

  • @mcopanzan
    @mcopanzan ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like ur driving faster than normal which messes up the range numbers.

  • @bilgyno1
    @bilgyno1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Actually faster than the Kia Ceed if you consider that you definitely need a dinner break on a 1000 km trip...

    • @OmgEinfachNurOmg
      @OmgEinfachNurOmg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's more of an indication that the Kia Ceed test needs an update

    • @bilgyno1
      @bilgyno1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OmgEinfachNurOmg why? He drove that car according to the speed limits and even subtracted 25 minutes for a dinner break. So in real life there's no way to do it faster, unless you're breaking the speed limits in a significant way. Point is: there's no longer a practical difference on a 1000 km trip as long as you're done in 10 hours or less. (Perhaps a little bit different in Germany or big countries with 130 km/h speed limit).

    • @OmgEinfachNurOmg
      @OmgEinfachNurOmg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bilgyno1 He had a total charging time of 55 minutes. Without charging he drove 8:20. If you drive a fossil car, there is no way you spend 40 minutes on pee brake and filling up the gas tank. 20 minutes I would consider normal, but not 40 minutes. Therefore, I would update the test.

    • @papischu2281
      @papischu2281 ปีที่แล้ว

      The test in this video wasn't within the speed limits... no need for the passport covering otherwise... he loves Tesla... 😁

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch rhe the video and you will understand how things work with fossil cars.

  • @moestrei
    @moestrei ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please remove that Kia PHnonEV from the list? Thank you.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. It's there for a reason.

  • @MrKinkia
    @MrKinkia ปีที่แล้ว

    Gief me DR. Pepper. ;)

  • @johhny711
    @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can’t compare an Audi E Tron to a model 3 , the E Tron is a big heavy long distance driving machine , it’s an SUV , the Model 3 is a close to the ground sporty car , two different things .Model x would be a better comparison.

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kttk4564 You could do that distance on a bicycle, that’s not the point , SUV ‘s like the ID4 , Audi Etron are very heavy cars , low nose levels , smooth, you sit high off the ground. They are designed for carrying families long distances .
      Of course you can drive a long distance in a model 3 , but pack 3 kids in the back and 2 adults in the front , then pack the car all the stuff kids need !
      You can’t compare a sporty car designed to go fast with an aerodynamic shape to a 2 ton SUV .
      It’s just a silly comparison.

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kttk4564 Naa, that's not true. The M3 is a small overpriced car, Musk knows he can sell it for $20k above market value to his cult followers!
      He knows he can get rid of a service network like VW have and his groupies won't bat an eyelid.
      He knows he can get rid of the dealer network that other manufacturers have and not pass the savings onto his customers because they are hooked .
      He's a clever guy, you have to hand it to him , it's all about the money :)

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kttk4564 Im probably being a little hard on the price €57k , is about 8 k more than the basic ID4 , the ID4 is a bigger car , a smoother car on the road , better build quality , it has the dealer network and it has the Vw breakdown assist ., but not everyone wants to drive an SUV , the ID3 is a good bit smaller than the M3 so it's not a fair comparison .M3 is probably 10k over priced , it's probably worth about 47k euros . The dealer margins are obviousally not being passed on to the consumer , they are going straight into Elons Musks pocket .

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kttk4564 Don't be silly,a more comfortable and quieter car makes more sense for these long journeys.

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kttk4564 th-cam.com/video/HJ1tofzX6Bk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheFastLaneCar

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    The tires literally says it’s 20” wheels

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      The text in the video literally says 20".

  • @dablo8250
    @dablo8250 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This must be awesome for the people that drive long trips at a regular basis, there is only one brand for them👍😊 luckily for the rest 99% of us we have more choices 👌😄

    • @tesla-spectre
      @tesla-spectre ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah as me: 15000km in 7 months and going hard... on a 3000km business trip now with my M3LR and would never want to change it for any other EV not the least for its incredible long range performance. but 99% of all trips by all people are under 200km so good that there are many more brands which do well on mid range etc . diversity is a lot more fun

    • @tesla-spectre
      @tesla-spectre ปีที่แล้ว

      the new M3LR should do 9:10 in same conditions indeed. and PHEV: did you not do any stops with it like for food and peeing?

    • @martink.9442
      @martink.9442 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In real life the difference isn't there. Because normal people make normal long distance rides. With eating, coffee, relaxing and so on.

    • @dablo8250
      @dablo8250 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tesla-spectre Agreed, I drive a phev now and my secondary car is the Mini electric and I actually prefer the mini on the few log trips I do as I never travel in stress and it is actually more refreshing with the extra stops. 😁 I have ordered the iX3 and it will be so damn nice to get rid of the fossil! 👍😄

    • @raydoherty5419
      @raydoherty5419 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martink.9442 exactly. When you take regular breaks every 3 hours or so for bathroom or every 6 hours or so to eat you pretty much never wait to charge. Did a 2200 mile road trip in a M3LR a few months ago and this was the case for us.

  • @RENAULTOlivier
    @RENAULTOlivier ปีที่แล้ว

    Ionity does not mean reliability

  • @Frosticus453
    @Frosticus453 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess once everyone is using a 1000v system it will be time for Tesla to update from 400v. Even using 800v, decoupling motors and gutless eco modes and Tesla is still ahead with full time, full power available. It is interesting stuff.

  • @CristiCroicu
    @CristiCroicu ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see a new tesla model s in this 1000 km challenge

  • @frdyn8tr
    @frdyn8tr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hate to say it, but the time deduction for all the EV specific problems distort the comparison to the fossil benchmark. Ladestau and charging problems are real.

    • @simonplait5531
      @simonplait5531 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it is a comparison between evs

    • @eirythma9404
      @eirythma9404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Slovenia having low fuel prices you have ladestau on pumping stations, those problems are real too 😂

  • @Samstarion329
    @Samstarion329 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure why it's necessary to deduct minutes because of traffic. It's not realistic that way.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is. You should watch these videos more often. July is high season for holidays. A lot more traffic than usual. Just google about this if you're not sure.

  • @viptravel2007
    @viptravel2007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one who misses Maya? Hahahaha

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  ปีที่แล้ว

      People in my channel didn't behave in the comment section. That's why.

    • @viptravel2007
      @viptravel2007 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh! So sad to read that… I hope people start to behave well if she comes back because she did very well in those few videos. 👍

  • @markusdicks648
    @markusdicks648 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, Tesla got better, but the difference between the competition is relatively shrinking. The competition will get there quicker than expected. In conjunction with the battery delivery problems, the Tesla share is currently rated too high. But again a good test.

  • @TLH788
    @TLH788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate the Tesla Model 3..looks small and cheap in my home town..😂😂I rather take BMW ,qudi or Mercedes EV instead

    • @RobertPuklin
      @RobertPuklin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must be using a Vertu Phone, because iPhones look small and cheap in comparison.
      Or a really fancy typing machine instead of a computer (looks small and cheap).

    • @nielsvandenkieboom5034
      @nielsvandenkieboom5034 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes the “everything is an option” manufacturers. Rear camera? Option! Electric windows? Option! Panoramic roof? Option! Apple Carplay? Option! Heat pump? Option!
      That’s why the Tesla looks cheap, it IS much cheaper for the same options. I’d rather save €30k and invest elsewhere 😉