Tesla Model 3 Performance Nürburgring POV | The Best and The Worst
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2020
- Big thank you to Ben for inviting me for a drive in his Tesla Model 3 Performance!
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It got me thinking, imagine Model 3 as a Ring tool? They are getting very popular in the States already.
I think it will be a great idea. Greetings Ben
The acceleration is awesome, but the suspension seems awfully soft and wobbly, and the brakes got cooked after a few bends, so one would have to upgrade those. Also, the tyres didn't sound like they were happy.
@@DanijelTurina973 that's the purpose of the build!
@@DanijelTurina973 He covered all that in the video..
Edge of my seat with this lap Misha. Isn't that how Rimac started or was his BMW just for straight dragging?
"we can use this time to cool the brakes"
*the very second later a GT3 overtakes*
"enough cooling!"
Tozzasque 😂😂
exactly what i thought 😆
hahaha, i agree
HAHA 😂😂
The Porsche goes "brrrrrrrrr" and the Tesla behind won't fall back like "what's all that noise about?" XD
Misha is like: “it’s my first time driving Tesla on track”
Also Misha: overtaking at 150kmh and going sideways in the first minute on track
150 is not even fast its highway speed
@@ijv5567 150 is highway speed
Its not. 130 is highway speed. The thing here in germany is that most ppl with stronger cars coast on 150kmh om the autobahn when theres no limit
@@roxxor3 130 is more like suggested speed you can safely drive 160 on most roads and you wont lose your license unless you go above 200 or something so theres nothing to worry about
@@ijv5567 highway speed = suggested speed in germany. There is no official limit here. You wont lose your license at 200kmh as you wont when you speed to 300kmh.
Whenever you feel like a plan is too ambitious, remember that guy at 11:13 who brought a Prius to the Nürburgring.
I'm also thinking who will have 100hp Prius in Nurburgring right 🤣
@@aryanbanerjee1636 People that are poor just like me!
Hold up I don't even have a car and a driving license...
Don't ask me why I get a perverse pleasure out of passing a Prius...
🤣👍
Good for scouting the track, everybody has to start slowly
looks fun
*Tesla not enough power*
Driver: Let me download some more horsepower
I mean yeah, some OTA updates have actually improved the power of the cars
And more ram too 😂
yes, and it will ignite spontaneously in you garage and burn a house down
Had to just put the horse in the backseat.
You can literally buy qn boost for the Long Range Version which improves peak power for $2000
Since u were keeping up with the mini in front it felt like the exhaust sound is coming from Tesla 😂😂
Same here! I was subconsciously thinking I was hearing the natural engine sounds, then OH can't be the Tesla, then I'm thinking I'm at least hearing motor hum from it, and silly me, finally realize the car is so silent you're hearing everyone else's engines.
@@jamesengland7461 all the others have a voice. EV owner, but they all sound like spin cycle on washing machine or tinnitus
Actually more like unable to CATCH the Mini. Kind of like the video of the M2 having to slow down in the corners because these EVs handle like drunk pregnant cows in the curves. And the Tesla never lost the M2.
@@billcichoke2534 seriously? It's just a Mini. It ain't all that. That Tesla has a much lower cg and better weight distribution than most sports cars, and isn't that heavy. It does have narrow tires, yet still basically identical handling performance to an M3. But we were talking about the sound anyway, so I'm glad you offered your noise to the conversation...NOT.
@@jamesengland7461 Really? A car designed by code jerks who played GTA, handles as well as one designed by MECHANICAL engineers who actually know how to drive?
Say you're joking...PLEASE.
Even Misha AND THR OWNER talk about how crap the steering and brakes are.
Legends tells.. that blue GT3 rs driver still have nightmares of a Tesla keeping up with him...
Then he should up his driving, cause the M3P is quite slower than even the 2007 GT3, not to mention RS ...
@@IvoRadev It's like people lose all car knowledge when seeing a Tesla, it's on it's limits screeching on every corner. It's weight is horrendous
Not sure if we watched the same video, but that blue Porsche pulled away from the M3P and was gone.
@@ganymede3141 Teslafanboys turn blind sometimes.
@@hasangenc2922 Sometimes? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine the roadster, it will smoke the other cars on the track, can't wait for it!
Cf rafaele
Right... Wishful thinking... It doesn't have the aero to keep up with the leading cars on that track (GT2RS, SVJ Aventador etc), so let's hope at least that it can finish a lap under full load at least. It will be the first production Tesla to do so.
@@IvoRadev we cant say anything because it hasnt even come out yet. now once it hits the nurburgring, then we can all discuss.
@@new-yj4pm We can't? That'll be something new... Tesla fanatics loooove to say ridiculous things about non existing stuff, especially the roadster.... 0-60 mph in 1 second, 450kph top speed, makes coffee and pancakes while waiting at the traffic light... It would be a first if the fanatics actually read what Tesla dares to claim and it would be a miracle if they don't spread their ignorance at all. The OP tells how that roadster will beat all the other cars on the Ring and when I point out that it is absolutely impossible to do so with the top cars in the list, because it doesn't have the aero, you tell me we can't say anything yet? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yes, we can. Given the looks of the car, it can't "beat all the others" even if it has plasma thrusters and can actually fly in space.
@@IvoRadev Of course the Tesla Roadster will not beat an F1 car, but with an 8sec 1/4 mile, it should beat the record for production car by a margin.
Even if it is the Performance model, this is still, really, just a regular, day to day, car. It's not a race car. It has comfortable seats, all the small things that you want while commuting, large trunk, and so on. That it performs this well on the track is really a bonus.
That's the beauty of it, if you want a do it all car it's one of the best. A BMW M3 is annoying as a daily due to the excessive noise and harsh ride.
Misha: 'Brakes are getting really hot'
Also Misha: goes full send and stops using the brakes going sideways at 150km/h* 11:23
Nice run. I enjoyed it :)
Thant means alot coming from you Bjorn!
Me and you take your car down there yes?
@@aussie2uGA hmm
@Bjorn Nyland - cant wait to see TaycanBjorn take a go at the Ring
When are you test driving Taycan Turbo S ????
That mini cooper in front of you guys was damn impressive!
he was just blocking.........
Fantastic for me to experience your lap! Thank you for making it happen. I could not take my eyes off the road ahead!
„He will cool down after the fart” 😂 1:33
Secret function nobody wants you to know about.
😂
I was thinking the same thing
Fahrt = drive
Dyin...
Also it's really weird hearing you breathe during a lap
AceCustomz Thats why I don’t like ev’s
Thomas Hill just put music on😂
Now you can hear his sheer focus and his brain demanding for more oxigen to outperform a faster car 🙂
took me a minute to get the joke😂
@@tomhill2497 You can buy formula-E engine or radial axis engine, if you want sounds. Search both.
10:10 battery pack start's being "ungreened" by Misha's driving...
After suspension and break upgrade, we need to see Misha drivin this thing again. Make it happen!
Saw some runs from Unplugged Performance modified Model 3s (suspension, roll bars, brakes & pads) in Willow Springs & those things are wicked!
@@andreipendle1778 I'll find them and watch. thx!
Ok so if I have a tesla and want to mod it
Center console delete, go with a more flush to the floor one
Race bucket seats
Mod a momo steering wheel
Half cage + race harness
Stiffer suspensions
Wider tires
Better ventilated brake rotors
Better break calipers (6 piston brembos?)
Better break pads
And finally
Knards, sideskirt, and a wing
@@RENO_K Nice...
Probably because of no breaks, thus only regen which dumps tons of heat back in the battery pack. Perhaps with good breaks, no regen, the battery pack won't overheat.
You can really see Misha's driving skills come alive when he drives this Tesla. It's a completely different car for him power train wise, weight and steering characteristics. Bravo Misha you left Porsche owners scratching their heads!
As a former Tesla employee, I had the incredible honor of delivering the very first customer Model 3 in Europe. And I also had a couple of laps at Spa Francorchamps with it. It's great (but not perfect) on the road, but before you go on any tracks you need to do massive improvements on the suspensions, brakes and seats. The suspension gave me the impression of going through corners like it was a 2CV. As for the brake, in normal road driving you would never ever use them. Not kidding. Also, rotors wear out quite quickly.
It's interesting that Brembo would provide such a soft compound pad but maybe they anticipated more infrequent use.
Awesome
@@aussie2uGA Yes, the track pack includes other pads, lighter rims and Cup 2 tires. Everyone of course can buy 3rd Party rims that are even lighter and change the pads. I spoke with a fellow few days ago. He didn't go with the official track pack, he got 3rd party rims, quite lighter than these in the pack, better pads and he changed the suspension. I'm not sure if it's on Cup 2 tires though,but it drives quite better on track according to his times.
@@aussie2uGA Soft brake rotor compound = more friction. More friction = more grip
@@IvoRadev Only problem if you change the suspension and brakes for example here in sweden, its not roadlegal anymore.
A friend of mine took me on the ring with his Model 3 Performance just this weekend and holy hell is the difference in just track experience and knowledge of driving a car on track apparent. I thought we were going to die several times. xD
The acceleration is like releasing a catapult.
now you dont seat in tesla anymore on track)
1:33 "He will cool down after the Fahrt."
That's the most German thing I've heard today.
Still , the beautiful sound of that GT3 RS gave me goosebumps!
And I still don't have 500k or however the fuck much they cost atm!
The comments here are absolutely insane 😄 The Model 3 was never a track intended car compared to the Porsche and the Mini.. It has comfortable roadtrip seats and a soggy suspension to swallow speed bumps and it manages to fly through Nordschleif overtaking loads of cars, keeping up with a Porsche and going sideways with 4 doors and seats.. and you people are still sitting here bitching about battery degradation, range and soggy suspension. People love hating on the Tesla having absolutely no experience of it whatsoever. I'm not asking for you to love it, I'm suggesting for half of you dorks to stop hating on it and just see what a small California-based company achived in 10 years in a world with 60, 70, 100 year old car brands. Most of you live not more than 10-20 miles away from a Tesla Supercharging station and not more than about 10 years ago there where no Supercharging stalls outside of the US at all.. You guys don't need to love the Tesla. Salesfigures and delivery times does Tesla justice. But you need to stop hating, guys. You honestly look like fools.
Amen
@@mgcharoudin I shared this video in Norwegian Tesla owners club and even there one guy was like: "he's just saying nice things because owner is in the seat. "
Of course not everyone on the owners club has a Tesla :p regrettably many trolls.
@@OlavAlexanderMjelde I said the brakes are the worst ever, how am I saying nice things lol
@@mgcharoudin yes but you said some mods would make it great. So it's basically positive still. The OEM pads aren't made for braking the car in regular use as you guys discussed. There are a lot of compounds to be had, it's brembro with floating rotors. Also of course exists BBK and CF brakes can be bought. But for regular people racing it would be enough with proper pads and new brake fluid with higher boiling point.
Im not fan boy either. Even smart car people cannot fathom what will happen in the next 10 years. The Tesla revolution is happening wether we like it or not.
I had a KW suspension installed and never regretted it!The Model 3 finally drives as it should and does not wobble through the curves like a ship.
Remember: this is not a trackday tool, it is a car for doing the schoolrun and getting groceries...
Well, the performance is designed for performance of driving
very nice driving, you can really see the low center of mass, but this thing will shred tyres and brakes like nothing else lol.
Id put up with it as think of the fuel cost you would save going this fast
@@Will_M600 the battery will degrade relatively quickly, so the fuel savings are going there
@@Anankin12 ah i didnt consider that
@@Anankin12 wery quickly? Where did you get that info? As fas as I am avare these batteries will outlast petrol cars even on Nurburgring
@@sultanofswingdrift3021 On the fact that to extract the full performance the car tells you that doing so will deteriorate the battery quicker than normal. Also, battery+heat is always a big no-no.
*loud bang* Misha "ah that must be your wallet" .. unintentionally cracking me up!
Literally and metaphorically as getting new tires and breaks after haha
Very cool! Kudos to the generous owner for sharing his car.
“Use the entire track"
"See? We are still behind that Porsche"
But got passed by a Volvo station wagon.
@@Ryantube007 And never did catch up with the white Beemer that passed as well.
But a Volvo station wagon? That's humiliating especially considering how slow the wagon was going the whole time...
@@Ryantube007 Regardless of what he was doing, it was a STATION WAGON. The hot hatches and what not he had passed just after the wagon, didn't pass.
The Gt3 Rs is way faster bad driver makes it seem slow.
@@andreagiagnorio5775 Agreed. He should have disappeared by the 2nd curve.
Better brakes, better suspension, better tires and you're fast as f*** 😳
Michelin Pilot Sport 4s on this car. A very good tire.
If it can keep up with a GT3 RS until the brakes wear out then it needs just better brakes. Better tires are always good though, imagine the same pilot 4s but 285 or whatever is on the Porsche instead of 235 like 2020 Priuses have!
MrAdoh2010 reality check - a Tesla model 3 performance is not remotely on the same level as a gt3rs on track...no matter what brakes.
Need another car 😂😂😂 not this battery with wells
@@jameshuegli3534 Actually it really would. A slightly moded 3 for the track should hold its own with a GT3 over one lap. But it could literally only do it for 1 lap where as the GT3 would just continually pump out the same lap for the next hour. Laguna Seca lap record for example a stock standard Tesla 3 performance is 1.5 seconds different to a GT3. The model S is significantly faster then the GT3. You up the brakes and suspension on the 3 and make a few tweaks they would be a match. But like I said only for 1 lap. After that the GT3 would be lapping the 3 while its battery cools or recharges
You're talking quietly this time, what an experience. I can certainly imagine that car with some good tires, stiffer suspension and better brakes being quick as hell.
That was impressive, amazing driving and the 3 has so much racing potential
Thank you so much for doing a video that is non-biased on the Tesla Model 3 Performance. Amazing you are giving away this very important information for free.
I would say probably 99% of tesla customers aren't thinking about taking their cars on the track. I get the improvements you mentioned would help the car but I also don't think you could call out issues on a car that was never built to go race on a track. For the car to perform the way it did imo is remarkable to say the least
You're right!
The performance was built exactly to compete with the BMW M3 so yes it was built for track use. Tesla just lacks experience in this field and have a lot to learn still.
Ahum performance or..... is performance only quarter mile?
The model 3 performance is the only one that comes with "track mode" which gives you control over tc and esc and allows you to monitor tires and brakes. So I think it is intended for track use.
At the reveal, Elon claimed the TM3P would beat any vehicle in it's class on the track. But,...he says alot of stuff,...
So great to see a drive like you go nuts with a Tesla. Just great driving without going over the top in your video. Love it!
Hey Misha... Thanks for these awesome videos, I enjoy watching them and I learn a lot from your driving style ;) ... I don't have the track near me but VR is the next best thing and it really makes a big difference to see the pros and learn their lines, breaking points, etc,. Peace out from Finland
My first "experience" of a tesla, was after I got new hearing aids just a couple of months ago. I was driving my Astra with windows open in town when a Model 3 went by the other way at about 20 mph. I heard the weight of the car from the tire noise!!!!
Actually nice to see a Tesla doing good on the ring, if the roadster comes it will be even better.
Plaid coming in hot
Yeah in 10 years or so 😂
Cool, finally!
I see what you did there
damn i used to watch you everyday
@@eun5oo280 hahah
@@eun5oo280 haha
@@eun5oo280 so
being an american, it's funny seeing all of the porsche's like we do ford's here. nice run btw
That’s just cause there near the track where every one races there Porsches
@@jensoncremasco3352 i'm still sure there's more porsche's there though, right???
TwoRoyBoys yea in Munich you say if u don’t want to get much attention you drive a Porsche
@@Alex16022000 that's so funny! in the us that's what you do if you *do* want attention. danke!
@@tworoyboys208 The Rhineland area has a lot of nice high-end cars, even the rental cars are well-specced Audi and BMW's for cheap lol. We had a $55,000 A5 for four days for $100.
Crazy to be casually chatting and hear the exhaust note of the guy in front!
When all the cars are electric, we will probably be able to hear the couple arguing in the car in front! 🤣😂
Nicely done mate... Real eye-opener. 🏆🇬🇧
i live in Norway. there is teslas literally everywhere. every 20th car you pass is a tesla in norway
Still tesla sucks 😂
André Silva the people that say that are jealous or stupid or both.
@@seanz6586 No, they just aren't swayed by all the hype, and watch these videos with less bias.
Also, not everyone who HAS the money to 'buy' one of these things (anything that has an End User Agreement attached to it, is NOT truly 'yours'), doesn't. That alone should tell you SOMETHING.
Idk where u live but the service is good in America
@@ryanzak6455 HUH?! I don't know if you've been keeping up with current events, but CRAP service support is right up there with horrid build quality as far as Tesla's biggest SHORTCOMINGS.
This was extremely interesting. Thank you Benjamin.
Thank you for posting this! Fantastic work, and a fair assessment, Misha!
Insane driving skills, love the Tesla quietness.
I, for one, didn't expect it to be thát fast... So i'm thoroughly impressed. thanks Ben, for letting Misha have a go and welcome to the vlogs!
@BTICronox its not a track car the gt3 was. people like you need to use your brain more
Looks like brakes are going to have to be upgraded a little earlier than expected
I have Model 3 Performance upgraded for the track near the ring. It has much harder sport suspension, it sits 30mm lower, much more camber, solid rear arms, much higher rate sway bars, much more precise steering bushings, significantly larger and better cooling (~4 times) brakes, high temp pads and fluid, 20% wider and 40% taller tires, lighter 19 vs 20 inch forged rims, 4 points harness for the driver. It doesn't yet have aero upgrades - I'm waiting for UPP results of CFD and Pikes Peak test, but it's already night and day vs stock.
If you're interested to compare - let me know, I will come.
I believe that for the Ring regenerative braking can be dialed back with large brakes (plus you guys didn't switch off a/c), so it can be kept on full power the whole time.
Ok, I'm a Tesla fanboy so I'm biased, but I'm keeping to come back here: every time my heart's pounding!
Tozzasque ok non-enthusiast
@@tomhill2497 sorry?
Hey Misha, You know we've got those performance brakes on the shelf for that Model 3 in the Netherlands right? 2-piece rotors US made, hit us up and re-track it!
I'm most impressed by how calm the passenger remained. I want to see video or photo even of that moment in Brunchen. 😜
Passenger was very calm 💩💩🤫😉👀
Because they used to this. they have been racing with bunch of Cars... Now try bring people who only think Cars is a Iron cage that bring you to point A to B and the reaction would be different...
It'S very interesting to see a car that makes no sound, can go so fast. It can even keep up with a GT3 RS... Mindblowing.
It can keep with nothing. The gt3 rs was slow that's all.
It can keep up with gt3 rs and it can't overtake a mini GP???
Thank you for the very enjoyable experience!
Amazing, BTG seems to be 8:33 with yellow zone and that little card incident. Very good, seems like most important improvement to do for the track is brake pads and fluid.
4 seconds faster than the Polestar 1.
Very interesting video, thanks to the Tesla owner for letting Misha drive it and taking all of us with you! ;-)
This is incredible. Nice run! I need to revisit the 'ring again.
wow the car kept up with GT3RS without upgraded suspension. Pretty impressive. Minor modifications will greatly make it a real track monster....
Surprisingly quick. As I'm sure many have said, some performance parts and a bit of weight loss it would be a great daily and occasional lap car.
Hopefully with a solid state battery it can one day shed 500 pounds and have increased thermal endurance too.
That was amazing, Tesla out the box is very impressive, but you have to admit, that Porsche sounded sweet....😍
Lovely driving with a great car! I have a Model 3 ad well and live in the Alps! There is no better feeling than to drive up a curvy mountain road than with a Tesla! They are perfect for this!
Great job with the Model3, Misha. Respect and thanks for sharing.
It's fun when it's you who's driving, it feels like you really wanted to test the limits
This was amazing to watch
Nice Ride! very impressive what the car can do with a good Driver! thank you for the ride and the owner !
Best thing about this is the sound. I like the quiet.
One of your most interesting videos. Well done. Your driving skills well shown here. With brakes gone and poor street tires you still kept up with experienced GT3 in a car you had never driven. Most interesting. Minor changes to suspension, tires and breaks and this car is pretty fit for the track.
Really fun to watch the tire temps in real time
I can't wait to see you have a go with a Model 3 fitted with some proper tires, coils, and brake upgrades.
That was a VERY impressive run! Especially considering it's a 2+ ton 4-door sedan! To be able to fairly much keep up with the Porsche(with all the performance mods and goodies it has) and to do it SO quietly is really beyond belief! Just think if the 3 had better brakes and tires and suspension? Porsche...look out!
1845kg plus 2 people
And having a low voice, casual conversation at it ! 😳
@@dulcidy it wasn’t keeping up though 💀
That’s down the driver mostly
I hope he puts brakes on it along with the suspension. I'd love to see you do another lap with those basic mods.
Model S Plaid drivetrain and track mode getting announced Sept 22nd.
"It'll cool down after the fahrt." Always a good thing
I can't read or understand German very well, but I legitimately giggled like a small child when I read that.
The best review of performance model 3 I've seen so far.
It’s astounding how well it kept up with the blue GT3!
Tesla is making it really tough on the competitors! I can’t wait to get mine!
That was SAF Misha! Well driven young man!
Check out Mountainpass Performance, that's the parts you need to go fast with a Tesla. Sasha Anis is very knowledgeable in that department. Great video as always!
Great video, really enjoyed that one!
I can keep up with a GT3RS??? Hahahahaha
The novice track drivers and their comments kill me. It’s ALL about the DRIVER. Put the same skilled driver in the GT3RS and you will never see it again after a few corners.
Yeah, of course. GT3RS went easy and the Model 3 went more easy because he was driving with no breaks. But the Model 3 driver in the GT3RS? Hahaha! That GT3RS will be flying. Nobody will catch that thing lmao.
The porsche will go about a minute faster with a good driver
Not engine wise, but use the similar parts of a gt3 homologation car in the tesla and now we be talking about who is BETTER. Tires alone were holding back this car Since corner 1. I could go on
You bring up brake issues - swap to DOT4 fluid and some track pads and things will be much different.
Thanks for sharing!
DOT 4 fluid? What’s in it as standard then?
@@jonnygti DOT3 is what is OEM
Mike Horwath I thought DOT 4 was standard in pretty much all cars now?
@@jonnygti Do you have any proof of such? I haven't seen anything stating that DOT4 is now default in any that aren't performance vehicles.
Yep, DOT4 is standard anywhere
8:33
Gotta love the pan to the side mirrors and seeing the blue porsche starting to creep up.
Personally my highest speed in a car is 230kmh+ in my E53 and adrenaline was crazy the first time I was driving that fast and here they are having a normal conversation at 200kmh+
Brakes are important if a car has a track mode.... Regen or not.
When you were keeping up with the GT3 that was EPIC!!
With brakes being dead :(
@@mgcharoudin Do you think you could have overtaken the GT3 with proper brakes/suspension/tires installed on the 3?
@@robcossin4690 without a doubt. Brakes alone. I was expanding the braking distances by 50% or more.
@@mgcharoudin I really hope you get to drive a Model 3 Performance modified for the track with proper Suspension and Brakes to do a real test.
It makes complete sense that the Brakes on the car are garbage. You really never need them and in Emergency Situation they perform very well as long as they are not overheated which they are never in daily use.
Would be cool if Tesla would offer an option in Germany but obv can be also modified individually
the GT3 was cruising lol.
M3 battery was already yellow/orange...so battery was getting hot and power decreases by alot.
This was an amazing run, the drive behind the Porsche was thrilling! Actually want to see one of these with the upgraded brakes and suspension...
Super...and you were carrying ballast...
Such a useful and fun video. Thank you!
Hey Misha,
Has Apex and other hotels / restaurants / etc. recovered from the Corona pandemic? Basically, how is it going for the tourism industry around the ring? (I was there about one or two months ago and our hotel, for around 80 people, had only four rooms rented out)
Recovered? Surely no. Better? By a lot.
@@mgcharoudin Alright, I hope the situation keeps on improving. Thank you for answering. Have a good one:)
11:19 the moment you've been waiting for...
Hats off to the guy offering you his car for a lap - cool dude! Nice lap too 😎
Exciting run. Thanks.
Particularly with the spacex package I get the feeling that the Roadster is going to absolutely swamp the competition on the ring.
Nah, the Roadster won't do shit on the ring. Probably fast on straights, average on tracks.
"People had to get a thowtruck and thow them to Norway" best comment ever haha
I got aftermarket shocks (Tein Pros), and it makes the car drive so much better. I do agree the brakes can use a bit of an upgrade, sometimes when I'm flying down the highway it can get a bit scary lol
There will always be the next weakest link as you upgrade a car for track use. Improve the brakes, suspension and tires and likely the battery pack will want better cooling to match those improvements and the process continues. Nice driving out there!
9:54 "the Porsche driver will also think what's wrong"
His driver skill or track knowledge is what's wrong compared to Misha's obviously 😅
Can't entirely blame it on the driver. A Model Y CUV with coilovers and better brakes placed quite well during a time attack race among lots of 911 GT3 and GT3RSes. And that is the CUV version. A Model 3 Performance with those basic upgrades is formidable on the track.
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@@flipadavis 2 seconds on that track is an eternity. It also plays into the differences, Tesla starts dying after a few minutes, the GT3 is designed to go all day...
Plus, that still doesn't refute Dave's claim. Sascha is a great driver, highly experienced.
@@Jaredscott89 Put Sascha in a Camry and see if he can keep up with a GT3 RS. Or even something like a stock Mustang GT. You can't just wave away the Model 3 Performance abilities because a great driver was driving it.
I see these comments every single time a Model 3 does well in a time attack. It's always "well uh, the driver makes a huge difference and those other cars the Model 3 passed were amateurs." You actually don't know that. In this instance yes Sacha is likely the better driver by far but you actually don't know that without knowing who the driver in that GT3 RS was.
@@flipadavis Is a Camry a performance car?
Yeah, you can, 2 seconds is an eternity in racing.
@@flipadavis The Porsche GT3 RS comes with cup 2 tires that are are wider by 70mm lol. It also weight 1000lbs less don't be silly.
Pretty damn impressive for a heavy sedan. I’m sure the Porsche driver was wondering what was going on for sure. It would definitely be interesting to see what upgraded brakes and suspension would do with Misha behind the wheel again.
While it is heavy compared to a light petrol car, do check weight of Polestar 2 and Taycan :p
well, it's just 150kg more than the Giulia Quadrifoglio
It might be heavy, but not compared to the modern sedans around
@@dallatorretdu To top if off, most of the weight in the Tesla is in the floor. That should help a lot with handling.
Clout A low centre of gravity in a heavy car is not as good as simply a light car
It wasn’t even close 😂
It's fascinating, the Model 3 is so efficient in power delivery, you can see the advantages right away. Also it's not a track car yet. I kept wishing I could be in the GT3 RS and how it would be a highlight of a trip to Europe.
2 possible scenarios might be cool:
1) Tesla comes out with a 'Black Edition' or 'Track Edition' and fits better seats, brakes and suspension (and tires)
2) A tuning house does that instead - maybe there's an AMG or Roush equivalent in Tesla's future!
3) A 'Nuremberg Edition' where your lap times are judged and then you're electrocuted...
Thank you Ben.
I can't really blame Tesla for scrimping on the brakes when in everyday use they are never even used. Slap on a good set and some half decent suspension and this could be a track monster.
At the end of the day this serves their customers the best and upgrading them isn't a big deal
^So what happens if you're trying to avoid a collision ? Are the brakes reliable enough for that ?
@@Lukas_Kramer Obviously yes, they're just not meant to be pushed this hard, as they overheat.
@@Lukas_Kramer You can brake really hard a few times, but if stomp the pedal at every corner on a track, they get overcooked. A track situation is lightyears away from a scenario on the road between other road users.
@@Lukas_Kramer You do realize that the brakes in the M3P are far better than nearly all standard cars. And it can handle some track use as well. But this track is a different beast, and it clearly shows the weakness of the brakes on the Tesla.
For more dedicated track driving, you would want aftermarket brakes for nearly all cars. Though some, like Porsche, tend to come stock with track brakes.
Morning comrade that looked a bit sketchy well done though
01:33 Actually when in the menu the second option you can toogle on or off is not about cooling the battery. Instead this option is enabling/disabling overclocking of the compressor.
Absolutely Awesome!