Major Problems With My Tesla Model 3 Performance!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2022
- All cars reach an old age and we're starting to feel it with our Tesla Model 3! Time to get this thing in the shop for a full recondition and update for the next 100,000 miles of electric motoring to come. We have plenty of Mountain Pass Performance modifications coming to get this Model 3 into it's full dirt road spec.
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You can pull the frunk liner out in under five minutes and then you should be able to see what’s going on with the fan. It might be a super easy fix. Maybe a mounting bolt fell out or something like that.
Probably a Dead Rat going around and around
0.07 "I just flew in from Europe, and man....."
I was really hoping he was going to say ....are my arms tired!
Dad joke Central
Interesting. I look forward to seeing the suspension mods.
The absolute dumbest trend in vehicle manufacturing is the move towards ultra low profile tires and giant rims(obviously not limited to Tesla). It's completely ludicrous on a technical level. I wonder how many millions of $$ a year is wasted on replacing destroyed rims and tires.
It's expected for a high performance car.
@@RemoteSpeed007 It's very stupid on a high performance car- the ONLY reason to go with ultra low profile tires/wheels is to fit bigger brakes. They degrade every other metric of performance
@@bobqzzi The pros of low-profile tires include performance improvements that are reflected in better handling and higher intensity of braking. Not sure where u getting your info from? Check your level of stupidity before claiming that of others.
Some great advantages of using low profile tyres include:
● Improved braking since they have larger rims and wider tyres.
● Better handling in both wet and dry weather. They provide good gripping and side swaying is also less noticeable.
● Offer greater traction than a conventional type of tyre.
● Enhances road feel, which means you can actually feel the road much more than in a car with normal tyres.
● They also benefit your car’s cornering characteristics by being able to handle greater cornering forces and steering performance.
● They are generally great looking and add style to your car’s outfit.
● Current premium car’s tyres are blessed with Run Flat technologies i.e., they allow driving even when all the air pressure is lost.
@@bobqzzi what? No. They do not degrade performance when performance is what you want. A lower profile tire handles drastically different than a tire with a larger sidewall. There are practical use applications for these tires. Of course there are downsides. But handling is the primary reason and it matters ALOT.
@@bobqzzi what? No. They do not degrade performance when performance is what you want. A lower profile tire handles drastically different than a tire with a larger sidewall. There are practical use applications for these tires. Of course there are downsides. But handling is the primary reason and it matters ALOT.
I'm willing to wager that the charging issue is because the PCS in the HV Battery Service Panel is breaking down -as is now happening with an increasing number of early models, including mine. What's even worse about that problem is that Tesla is refusing to cover the repair under the HV Battery Warranty. NOT good! I have filed a dispute over the issue and the AAA arbitration is currently pending.
I had to replace my PCS just before my warranty expired
@@executivetutoringservices1714 You were fortunate! Most are experiencing the breakdown not long after crossing the 50K threshold. Still, IMHO, Tesla should cover the repair under the HV Battery Warranty, as the components are definitely an integral and essential part of the battery drive train system.
Whats the PCS?
Power conversion system (PCS)
@@NeilSalaria thanks!
Smart idea to keep it. Long term reviews and updates will provide a ton of content in the future that no other channel will be able to accurately compete with.
these alloy wheel are just great ! Thank you for you channel ! I really enjoy watching most of your videos !
Regarding the level 2 charge issues it’s in the car. Same happened too me on a similar car. Tesla fixed it for free.
when did they do the fix?
What did they fix?
For all you that have that charge for a few mins and then stop on a Level 2 charger, I had that same issue , took it in 2 Tesla x2 and the couldn't figure it out. Once I removed the extraneous Tesla-apps I had hook up to my phone and started with a clean slate, the problem went away. One of those apps was wonky and was causing the problems. I haven't bother yet to figure out which one it was. I did add back Testifi and Tessie back and they work ok.
@@allenbaylus3378 they removed and replaced the power conversion system
@@mcunha81 they removed and replaced the power conversion system
If you’re having issues viewing this on mobile, I am too. Occasionally TH-cam does this and hopefully will be back live for mobile viewers soon
“No stream”
Kyle, what firmware version are you running on the Model 3?
Working now
Why would you sell a “nightmare” to anyone in that condition. Shame on you! 😢😢😢🥺🥺🥺
Not having any issues it on my phone.
Great to see you at takeover this weekend. That’s a crazy noise and interesting that it only happens while Turning. Good luck and hope to see you again soon.
My guess would be a loose fan.
Would you mind sharing the invoices for these repairs? I think it would be helpful for people with the pre-refresh model 3 decide to keep or sell their car.
Do y’all realize he took this car and beat it on a track all the time in it’s early days… now it’s a road tripper. But watch old videos. Majority of ppl won’t have these issues such as the radiator issue/Suspension.
It was awesome to meet and talk to you at Tesla Owners Takeover. I can't wait to see the end product of the Overlander Model 3!
103,000 on my Bolt EV - Zero problems.
Did install new shocks.
Free battery replacement gave me 10% more capacity than when I bought it.
Happy camper.
Charge on!
Glad they came through with the battery replacement…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You don't treat your Bolt like he treated that Model 3. Plenty of people with Model 3 and that many miles with no issues.
@@domg7359
How would you know how he treated his Bolt EV?
I have a boring ass Prius, but it gets the shit beat out of it all the time. I use it for Rideshare, and drive it hard. It has 409,000 miles, still going strong. Still on original suspension except for the struts.. all the bushings, and ball joints, Tie Rod ends, wheel bearings all original.
I appreciate that Kyle beats his cars a bit.. shows me what I could expect too. And it has me a bit concerned....
@@kens97sto171 Because it doesn't accelerate like this 3P lol, or have as high of a top speed....
@@whattheschmidt
So what.. means nothing.. top speed is easy for any car.. no stress at all. My Prius has a higher top speed than the Bolt actually. And I've run at that top speed 108mph for extended period of time.. and run at 85-90mph for HOURS no stop.
Acceleration might put wear on some parts.. but not much. That's all in suspension design. The M3p has aa much more beefy setup in the first place..
Sorry.. it does NOT add up.
Everything besides the level 2 charger issue seems straight forward. I recently had to change the manifold for the superbladder. Fan seems like a loose fastener
If I ever go driving my Model 3P across the Utah salt flats at 160 mph like Kyle, I'll be sure to have my cooling system checked.
lol!! don't forget death valley in summer!
They sure did get good use out of this 3P lol!
Mpp comfort coilovers for a smoother ride! Can’t wait to hear your opinion about them.
If they are anything like their sport coil overs (which I have run on both of my Model 3) I think Kyle will love them.
That plan for the Model 3 reminds me of the Dukes of Hazzard episode where they put a lift on the General Lee, and put big beefy tires on it! 🤣
“Keep driving it until something breaks” Famous last words.
Thanks for the update. It would help to know what it costs to repair the individual items you mentioned. The onboard charger, cooling fan, roof panel, windshield....those four alone will add up to significant $$$.
Including the glass replacements probably about $10,000.
If the glass is cracked by a rock it would be covered by insurance
@@Kendallbogley3 Yes I have similar issue, storm damage on my top roof glass section and insurance will cover, but the repair is $3K CAD. Not cheap.
@@Kendallbogley3 That depends on your insurance company and policy limits.
@@Kendallbogley3 Glass is only covered in some states. In Florida it's covered, in Georgia it's not.
How many cars do you have, dude?
He is a car guy. His job is a TH-cam channel reviewing cars! Clearly he has a passion for cars.
4?
Model S plaid, Rivian R1T, an audi something, a model 3, and his Mercedes van/camper
he has a whole company dude
@@fornobu yeah but he has a whopping 100k subscribers. No where near enough revenue to bankroll what they have. If they had millions then yeah.
Can’t wait to see the lift!!!
Have you guys gone over your home charging set up? Or what would be your ideal set up for a house if you could design it yourself (either with current products or future products) Do you have solar on this house? I think you mentioned that it was a rental so if that’s the case I imagine not.
Interesting charging problem,with the 3 , Kyle, I have a 21lr,and my home charger 40amp,and 32amp that comes with the 3 both stop at around 1hr..or 10%, this happens far less often in winter thought. I think its car related,because I had an S..for 2 years and it never tripped the breaker once,with the 3 it happens all the time.... however,if your breaker isnt tripping when the car stops charging then it cant be same problem as mine..
I'd like to know the price of replacing windshield and top glass.
Keeping it > Selling it
Are you going to add control arms to the kit as well?
Thanks for making your Model 3 Performance your long term EV Kyle!
How much clearance with the new suspension?
I had a similar charging issue that was only coming with granny lead or at charge point. I had Tesla out for an unrelated reason and they fixed it! Some plastic in the charge port had broken off and was stuck in there. The tech pulled them out with a needle nose and replaced them with new ones. Newer cars don't have this issue as they changed the plastic. Have Tesla look at. It's a simple driveway fix.
I'm happy you kept the Model 3 !
I'm having AC charging issues on my Model Y, I just dropped it off today. I sure hope they fix it but it sounds like it's the onboard charger itself and I don't think they are replacing that today. I can charge most nights but it disconnects a lot and won't accept full charge on almost anything I plug it into.
Rally Model 3! Yes! Big wing, mud flaps, rally lights. The works!
I'm at 80k on my ghost performance. I'm about due for my second set of tires. I had an issue with charging at 250kw chargers when they first came out that was resolved by topping off the coolant. I was getting a clackety clunk noise from the suspension at around 60k miles that was solved by having suspension torqued to spec. I have also gone through 3 windshields so far. After the third windshield I started getting a lot of rattling from the trim pieces, solved by putting some insulation in there. I had a window switch mechanically break, that was a surprisingly cheap fix (like $60). According to the Tesla Service mode my battery has 84% capacity left but interestingly, legs that were "stretches" when I first got the car, I'm still able to make. I think that has something more to do with my comfort in going lower into the battery but my trips are far quicker now than they were when the car was new, thanks to faster and more superchargers. A 680 mile trip I do pretty often I can do roundtrip with 2 hours less time off the road than when I first got the car mid 2018
The main reason supercharging works in the model 3 but level 2 charging doesn't is the different electrical current. supercharging provides DC directly to the battery, while level 2 charger provides AC to onboard built in the car AC to DC converter (like a rectifier). And then either the onboard converter has issue or overheated from the cooling problem that you had mentioned so it only works for few minutes.
If you haven’t already done it, try the reset on the side of the HPWC. We had same issue and the reset fixed it.
5:35 - Jordan... YOU DID THIS...!!!
Man, we live really near each other. It's crazy to think we probably pass by in traffic occasionally. If you ever see a black house with a solar roof, that's me!
I promise not to come knocking lol
the cooling fan noise sounds like you live around airport and listening to airplane takes off
🤣
Gratuitously blocking the bikeway.
Could you please go into a lot more detail on the suspension bits? Which bits solve which specific problems, so I can figure out which parts I'd be interested in for my specific needs... everything I read seems to be focused on people who want to lower their cars, which makes minimal sense to me with the model 3 performance.
what kind of rims are those??? They are gorgeous!
Aloha Kyle. When you provisioned the new rims and tires ( Track Package) , did you have to do the ''performance upgrade" for 2k? My understanding is this lowers the 0-60 from 3.1 secs to 2.8 secs on the 2022 variant. I know you have the 2019.
Performance upgrade is for M3LR. It takes 4.2 to 3.8.
How did you have it listed when it was up for sale?
People get lulled into thinking that there will be no maintenance forever. Ultimately, it's still a high performance car with all the typical suspension and non-engine related wear items.
shot bearing in the fan?
Neighbors are like how this dude live in a tiny house and have $200k worth of cars
Wish I'd known you were getting the mpp lift kit. Just pulled mine off (here in Nederland, CO) and no longer need it. If you can make use of it, let me know.
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How did you get the crack in the TOP?
I've got a Model 3 Performance coming 23rd Sept. I can't wait to see how you set it up for more off road driving, as I want mine to be able to tackle Devon roads in the UK. 😞I had a Model 3 Long Range 2019, and had suspension noises on the drivers side as well. Sounded just like yours, but was fixed under warranty. Looking forward to the Model 3 Off road video. 🙂
11:00: I cannot find your personal channel. Is there a link somewhere?
Title should be: We converted our Model 3 to a lawn mower.
Love your videos, all of them ! But just to help, I think you should try some lens cleaning. Many of your video have some white fog
Iam wondering how many miles you guys have driven so far in all vehicles ?
on the tm3 he's talking about - over 100,000 mi. Watch his past vids-- they/ Kyle thrashes that car.
loose broke shroud around cooling fan or the heat cold pump mount or noise cover loose broke.
My 2019 P- has just gone over 150k miles and the biggest problem has been suspension; just had the two rear trailing arms replaced but you can't get them off without dropping the whole subframe because there's a bolt that is too long to be replaced
Similar battery deg, maybe slightly less due to less DC charging than you
Paintwork is obviously shite but that's to be expected
No other major problems other than chewing through Michelin PS4s now replaced by cross climate 2s which are a great compromise if a little prone to power-on understeer at utterly random times
Great to read your experience. Which paint color do you have? And 10% degradation... it should slow down from there mostly. I do hope u did not like baby it and decently used the "Performance". :) i heard the black paint gets destroyed alot due to rocks.
So is it worth buying this car because I’m looking into purchasing one
Too much skids I should say but I have a m3 sr+ 2019 based on the same platform and I keep it. They are cheap to repare, easy to find problems e.c.t
2019 have control arm issues at about 3 years, Zach and Jesse, a friend of mine. Apparently mileage doesn’t seem to be the issue just age related.
What are you asking as is if you do sell it?
Any updates on this beast!?
Where can I get the rims?
Rally spec M3P... i like it.
I have wanted to order a Model 3 but the nearist service center is a 200-plus mile round trip and this video did not make me have the warm fuzzies about the M3 if in three years it is going to have so many issues.
Remember the Model 3 has ALOT of upgrades since 2019.. for example. "The suspension". Also.. this dude really abuses his model 3 so its a great test on how it will hold out. If u gonna buy the 2021 and 2022 model or just buy a new one there is gonna be a huge update on the model 3 in 2023 aswell. But alot of issues have been solved from the older model 3's.
Haven’t watched many of older vids but what do you think about quality of build and long term reliability ?
LOL. Go look, he just published a full video on it at 100,000 miles
i had a problem once with charging stopped and turns out it was some 3rd party app that i was using to pull extra data on the car that was stopping the charge once i logged out my tesla account from that 3rd party app it worked perfectly
Seems like fairly straightforward problems, cool that your doing the MPP lift, that's rad
For a Tesla maybe..
@@DeniJasmina For any car, in my opinion, having worked on lots of them
Love the various cars though :)
Love the Mercedes Sprinter camper
Hi kyle
What do you do for a Living? Is it full time TH-cam etc?
He sells ice cream out of the white Rivian.
I have a new set of the turbine oem rims and want to know if you would consider trading for your g zeros? I’m willing to ship first
100k miles could just be a fan with a bad bearing. Unless it's a brushless fan then idk lol.
Brushless have bearings too, and I agree that is a bearing on one end or the other of the motor, maybe even both.
The offroading they did with it Im sure didn’t help 😂
how did the roof Glass break
Broke one of the blades and threw it out of balance?
More than likely. Or blades sucked in some dirt and one has more than others.
What is his personal channel. Kyle’s car. Could not find it
Watching this in my Toyota Camry with 120k miles with no 9k repair cost.
You can get a oil change faster than they can sit just to get one charge...
That’s a good looking car 👀
i wouldn't alter the suspension at all due to speed bump clearance. just get tesla or 3rd party to oem fix it to stock for resale value, as for the level 2 I don't think it is your charger but the cars as others have also had level 2 issues reported, that must be a batch issue or very limited failure either way get tesla to do it
Disposable cars but Great software and charging network.
Great vid thx, What would happen if you drove/drafted the P3D 1 car length behind a semi on a track @ 70mph for 100 miles I know it’s rated @ 315 miles how much do you think it would gain @ 100% charge to 0….hmm inquiring minds want 2 know, if this test proves good we can ask Elon to implement Kyle Mode (drafting behind semi’s)…peace
I thought glass (at least windshields) were covered on every insurance policy? Idk about the top glass.
it is but might depend on your deductible. It was cheaper for us to just pay cash.
And guess what. In the snowy mountain endurance run, only one car beat the Tesla....the Chevy Bolt that was $20,000 + less)!
where is the MPP upgrade video?
Could somebody there work on editing the Alaska trip video?
If you need help getting your windshield and sunroof replaced let me know - i work for safelite in loveland
Your Model 3 has had a hard life. You took full advantage of your free supercharging miles and made lots of cross country road trip content in those early days of ownership. Like others have said, the fan, or it’s shroud sounds loose. Not a difficult fix, but if you ignore it for long enough, its bound to creat more issues.
Also tracked it. So I guess after +100K miles... might need some maintenance i guess.
@@ultrastoat3298 Yup Kyle pushes his cars to their limits- impressive it went that long without these problems.
Onboard charger failure should be covered under the HV battery warranty. Mine failed at around 70k
Warranty ends at 100k, unless the earlier Model 3s have lifetime
@@TroyMeekhof LR cars go to 120k
HV battery and on-board charger are not the same thing.
I have a Tesla service appt next week to address a very similar charging issue on my 2022 Model 3 LR. Charges for a couple mins just fine, full current load, then either stops completely or cuts the current in half. Started on superchargers last week, and continues on home charging.
eek, that's unusual. Supercharger DCFC involves very different (DC) systems than AC level2 charging (thru AC-DC inverter/onboard charger)... usually (still rare but) onboard inverter charger has problems first... might be other HV systems if both affected?
Glad you are still in warranty, hope they can find & fix quickly!
I think you should sell this and use Rivian as a road trip car.
Will you lose the warranty on the Plaid ?
Nobody loses warranty on your car when u do these things. U only lose warranty on the things u mess with mostly. Why would u lose warranty on the whole car. That would be against the law.
Really car sounds amazing would be even better with Model Y
After driving a 2022 M3 LR with 2k miles on it I knew I no longer wanted a Tesla. The driver side door panel was falling apart and it felt like driving a boat handling corners and horrible suspension with fast straight line acceleration. Not worth 60k imo. Glad I test drove one before pulling the trigger. Interior seemed very cheap like a Chevy cruise leather trim cheap with an iPad in the middle.
😅 Yeah ok, talk to all the people that actually own the car and know you're full of 💩. I guess if you needed an excuse not to buy it because you can't afford it and this works for you, good job!
of course you fix the fan at tesla. how is that even a question. could be just a plastic frame that's cracked from 110kmiles vibration. And sounds like you drive it terribly if you have multiple damaged wheels :) I have a brand new 3P and you cannot borrow it! :)
O’ how I suffer. I just got back from Europe, I’ve got a camping van, two Tesla’s, a Rivian and an Audi in my driveway. I have to do some “minor” fix on the spoiler; I may have to drive the Audi. My poor life. O’ how I suffer.
The suspension plans sound horrid to me, imho.
7:31 Such noise, i normaly hear from an old PC with a fail in the fans ^^
Please sell me those track wheels once you do your overlanding project!
What was all that debris on the radiator? Maybe there is a squirrel stuck in the fan. Why don't you do a video taking the frunk out and looking under the fan shroud?
it also sound like it have a squirrel in it with its teeth is stuck in the stearing and its tail is hitting the fan 🐿
Not sure if it the fan. May sounds more like bad wheel bearings.
Bad wheel bearings don’t make noise when the car isn’t moving.
I don’t get it. The problems you describe are completely normal for cars over 100,000 miles. Cars need prescribed regular maintenance, stuff occasionally breaks, etc. Just make an appointment with Tesla, list each item, and get them repaired. No different than my BMW X5 which needs an oil change, rear brakes, and there is a weird click in the front suspension under braking.
Are you sure Rich Rebuilds didn’t slip an ICE under the frunk when you weren’t looking?
Oh my… I would have immediately taken off work and came to swap you for my 19” silver wheels 😂
I thought you sold it?