QANTAS gave me a middle seat on JETSTAR! Melbourne - Singapore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2024
- QANTAS CANCELLED, gave me a middle seat on JETSTAR! Melbourne - Singapore
Every epic journey begins with a single flight. Nothing like a flight cancellation to start off your long trip. QANTAS cancelled this flight a month out and the option was to leave a day earlier with Etihad, or Jetstar on the same day. Going with Etihad would have screwed up all our reservations (hotel, rental car etc) so we stuck with a same day departure.
Is Jetstar economy class as bad as people make it out to be? We aim to find that out in this video.
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I love your reviews and your sense of humour. Looking fwd to the rest of the trip
Thanks for watching!
Ryan, your frankness, honesty and production quality really show TH-cam as a great provider of information at its best. I was intrigued regarding Jetstar’s using Asian crews who are paid in their respective currencies. I’m assuming this is a legal practice and Australian workplace laws give them no protection?
I, and I hope those watching this vlog will give politeness and appreciation to these Jetstar crews in future. The airline industry seems more than ever inclined to squeeze blood from a stone to achieve profits. I wonder how far this culture will go?
Looking forward to the next leg👍
JQ was created by Alan Joyce outside of the protection of unions. Asian bases are perfect for them because of their lower cost. I'm still trying to understand the Singapore base because their pay is no different from their Aussie counterparts. 🤷
@@ryansofly And there you you have it, the key words: Alan Joyce🙄. Historically they called past events in Northern Ireland “The Troubles”…maybe these recent years in Qantas should be called “The Troubles”?😉
@@james7149 I don't see QF TROUBLES to be over any time soon. They have an incredible uphill task ahead.
Fantastic video. I’m flying Jetstar to a Singapore for the GP in September on a reward seat so good to get an insight into the flight and what to expect. Loved your comment about Nonna and her lasagne! 😂
Look, JQ is fine for what it is as far as I'm concerned. The issue is when things go wrong (ie cancellation). That's when support is very poor as they do not have the resources to deal with it.
Love your videos Ryan! The content, and needless to say your humour! I grew up in Singapore, just like you did, but would not be so brave as to be so very optimistic when flying a LCC long haul so you might as well give me the Chill Kit coz I will never receive one myself (LoL!!) but am an aviation-geek (sort of) who loves collecting aviation memorabilia! Too bad I don't live in OZ... yet.
Ha! Fellow Singaporean ah! Hahaha.... Sorry, this giveaway unfortunately is only meant for Aussie residents... Perhaps in time I might do a giveaway for my international viewers? Meantime, kamsia for your support! 🙏🙏🙏
Love to fly again but been stuck in my room for 5 years so i get to watch you fly everywhere thank you.
Well, thanks for your support! See you in my next video!
Looking forward to traveling with you virtually again, Ryan. It is a shame that QANTAS continues to treat its customers (and staff) with such indifference and it is one of the reasons I try to avoid, where possible, to fly on them.
See you in the next episode! Thanks for watching!
Hi Ryan looking forward to your future videos in Malta, France, Italy and Vietnam.
More to come! Stay tuned!
Thanks for another great trip report Ryan. Thinking of traveling to Japan on Jetstar. Think this video might help. Oh would love the amenity kit to add to my collection.
Howdy Jen, your name's been added to the draw. What's your Instagram handle?
@@ryansoflyI was so original I used the same as here jenruska. 😂
Missed the live, watching now. Hi Ryan😊😊
Howdy Deb!
Im looking forward to the rest of the videos, especially the malta ones im going there in march, thankfully not flying either qantas or jetstar there, always delays or cancellations with them 2 every time i travel with them
Malta is beautiful... I'd go back there in a heartbeat.
I’ve flown JQ7 and JQ8 and honestly I couldn’t fault Jetstar. We departed on time, service was fine, seats were comfortable crew were great, food was good.
I’m flying Qantas to LA in 4 weeks and back home as well. I haven’t flown with them internationally for many years. I’ll see how they rank with the rest.
Curious question... On JQ8, what time do they light the cabin for the 2 meal service?
I was more anxious about punctuality so I booked my connection from Melbourne to Sydney at 2000p😅😅
@@ryansofly if landing is 0615, then meals are maybe at... 0430a or so. I'll find out in a couple weeks
Same. I'm doing Circle Pacific... SIN MEL SYD LAX YYZ. But I'm breaking journey by chilling in Sydney for two days
Hi Ryan! I'd like the kit because i've never had one before. Great video once again.
Well noted. What's your Instagram handle?
Look at muh-eeeeee! Another good video Ryan!
Thanks for popping by, mate!
Thank you for this amazing review 😊 I have friend cabin crew in Qantas and his attitude forward passengers is terrible ! Like he is doing favour to passengers on his flight ! I am sure this crew will provide amazing service what Australian crew is lucking today ! They only care about money and benefits they get from Arline ! Have great time in beautiful Malta !
Thanks for watching!
Epic journey ahead...looking forward to the rest of the trip! I would like to take this chill kit with me on my next Low Cost flight from Singapore to Jeju in May!!!
Sorry la Cikgu.... The giveaway is unfortunately only for those who live in OZ. Perhaps in time I can afford to do it for international viewers! Thanks for watching anyways! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ryansofly1624 I have an Australian address. Melbourne to be exact. 🤭🤭🤭
@@kennethchongweithart7905 oh! Ok! Name entered into the draw! I will announce on my Instagram at the end of Feb. Cheers!
@@kennethchongweithart7905 oh ya... What's your Instagram handle?
Years ago I booked QANTAS from NZ, via Sydney, to Vietnam and was unaware the Sydney-Vietnam leg would be on Jetstar. I was given similar 'full' service but had people around me wondering why I got 'free' what they had to pay for. The return flight was all QANTAS.
Yeah the guy at the window seat was wondering why we were given these "freebies".
Great video Ryan.. I don’t have a problem with comfort on Jetstar 787’s, entertainment screens to watch movies a plus compared to Scoot & Air Asia, it’s the delays and cancellations & I’ve encountered a few. The worst being Jetstar’s Melb to Ho Chi Minh City direct flight being a 13 hr delay & loss of a nights accommodation in Vietnam. The Singapore flight used to be terrible with delays but has got better recently. I’m travelling shortly with Jetstar from Cairns to Osaka so fingers crossed.. $288 return to Japan from Cairns as return for free sale was on when purchased.
Looking forward to your ongoing travel videos.. safe travels Ryan..
Yeah I too never had a problem with JQ. Lots more to come!
Interesting to see!! I have booked to. come from Singapore in July to Melbourne and then Launceston. Hopefully I won't get cancelled or changed. I'm flying the red eye too. I hope I don't get a middle seat. The price comparison I think I paid $1330 so looks like I am paying a lot more the trip from Melbourne to Launceston. I thought it was safer to book. them together though. Do you know if they supply kits on quants economy for red eye? I am not sure what to prepare. Keen to be in the running for yours 😀
QF does not give amenity kits in economy class. As long as you satisfy the 3 conditions for this giveaway, I'd gladly put your name in the draw. What's your Instagram handle?
wow, u can buy nearly 3 jetstar tickets or 1 qantas. and ur video didnt make jetstar seem that bad. thank you for a very good video
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching.
I did this flight last year and had a middle seat. TBH had no issues with jetstar at all and quite liked it. Looks like the plane was sitting there just waiting before the flight so there was no delays or anything at all.
I got their package with the double carryon weight and meal included. Was actually a great experience for the price.
Can't say the same of when I flew Jetstar to Tokyo.
That's the thing about JQ... They don't have a lot of resources to handle a flight in crisis. That's why they're so cheap.
Welcome back home, Ryan...
Thanks mate!
You flew Xmas Eve. So did I, to KUL then SIN, ADD and JRO. Couldn't get our boarding passes for the next sectors until KUL. On the way back flew via SIN on all Star Alliance carriers, but Ethiopian couldn't give us boarding passes for Singapore Airlines.
Sometimes it makes you wonder with all these alliances, it's supposed to be seamless. 🤷
Ryan .... I can appreciate you flying low cost carriers but my days of doing so are long gone. Qantas = Shitstar = Qantas (no difference imo) regardless of the cabin crew. I used to be an avid supporter of Qantas but not anymore. I'm so looking forward to seeing how you manage the indirect route to Malta ... direct being with Emirates via Dubai. It will be interesting to see what Air Malta serves you on your flight. I only got 1/2 a sandwich between Rome and Luqa (Malta) back in 2018. Can't wait to see where you stay in Marsalforn as I stayed in what I called "Fawlty Towers" Hotel Calypso ... lol
Really looking forward to next weeks episode and welcome back :)
This video is meant to showcase how far QF has fallen, the fact that they're now no different to JQ in economy. Next episode, you'd see the challenge I have at CDG trying to get to my flight with Air Malta. Stay tuned.
I SAW Calypso Hotel in Marsalforn! Man, that hotel looks very interesting! Hahahaha.... A lot of Marsalforn is very run down. Think COVID did a lot of damage.
I travelled Jetstar once from Sydney to GC, I booked it thinking it would be bad, but I was pleasantly surprised, we left on time, the staff were pleasant. The only thing the queue to drop baggage was a bit slow but I think that was people not knowing what they were doing, so with my long queues expectation I accepted that. That was 2018. Now you have me thinking it’s a good possibility for Perth to Asia. Sounds fine to me.
I use JQ a lot to shore up my QF points and status credits. They're useful like that.
@@ryansofly good idea 👍
Love this, I have travelled to Japan on Jetstar & then back via Changi airport on Scoot. Jetstar was a million times better than Scoot. No inflight entertainment, I had my laptop but it cost a lot to buy Scoot wifi. It was a red eye flight so tried to sleep in my sardine can. Can I please be considered for the Chill Kit? 😊
Howdy Erica! Sure thing, name is thrown in for the draw. What's your Instagram handle?
@@ryansofly yeah it’s @ericalakatos 😊 thank you!
About a year ago, I was booked on Jetstar SIN>PER. They didn't end up starting that flight again, so I was rerouted SIN>DPS>PER. Then, about a week before departure, they cancelled the SIN>DPS flight, and only gave me an option of flying SIN>MEL>PER. There were no other options (long weekend, flights sold out), so I took it.
Land in Melbourne and come down with a case of food poisoning (from the Jetstar flight), and board my flight back to PER. End up throwing up in the lavs and the FAs kicked me off the plane. Am asked to get a medical certificate to fly again, keeping in mind this is a Friday public holiday before the weekend.
Will not be doing that again.
Oh no, flying while spewing must've been horrible! Hair did they find out you were sick? How did you get back to Perth?
Dear God, I'm starting to panic!!! I'm traveling Australia to Rome later this year, business class. I've always thought Qantas was one of the best airlines in the world, but recent videos are opening my eyes. I'm 70, use a walking frame because I have a very bad back and travel alone. There is no way I could be downgraded to an economy seat. I don't even travel economy between Melbourne and Adelaide!! Fingers crossed, all will go well.🤞🤞
It's not difficult to understand how Aussies seem to think Qantas is the bees knees by default, because they run a very slick marketing campaign to shape our minds into thinking they're the best. But they're not. There are lower tiered 3rd world airlines out there who offer so much more for far less. I surely hope they won't be downgrading you from business into economy class, unlikely. But even with business class, you should really manage your expectations.
@@ryansofly I think I already have. Next trip, next year will be with Emirates.
I can go to the app and change the seat by paying for it.
@@copa-jungle-jet4030 you cannot do that in this case unfortunately because this flight wasn't booked with JQ
Thank you for sharing your experience seating in the middle seat. Well, I saw the gentleman beside ypur on your right (the aisle seat) person looking over to your tray, planr and camera!!! I just don't need everyone looking breathing and sometime sneezing in my f@%king food!!! That is a problem!!!!😮😮😮
When I have flown in Economy Class long-haul on many the USA airlines, I always try to seat at the Exit Door area seating. The legroom is what I need. And then in Premium Economy seating I like the first row right behind Business Class. That way I will not have some crazy person sitting in front of me pushing back there seat while I an trying to eat!😮 Plus my knees will not be hit from a person in front of me either!😮😊
The aisle seat passenger is my husband
@@ryansofly 😂 Hahaha! Sorry!! That is nice! I was not aware of your husband being there next you until now!!!☺
@@LMays-cu2hp yeah this is one of the rare times we're travelling together. Hahaha...
@@ryansofly I hear you! ☺ Many times when you are sitting in Economy Class you many not have the right people sitting next to you or either side!
Extras are not 'free' in business class. They are 'included'. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
You're right.... Included should've been the term used.
I flew QF36 from Sin-Mel last week and i'd say you had a better/newer plane
I agree 💯
I think post Covid that every flight booked is a gamble, like a game of Two-up! Come in spinner! Seriously, I can't comment on Jetstar internationally, but I have flown with them domestically, and believe it or not, I have had less grief with Jetstar than I have with Qantas, especially Qantas-Link, which has to be the most inefficient, over-priced and shoddy carrier of any in Australia at least. I have had the least hassle domestically with Virgin (despite the so-called statistics), after that Rex, after that Jetstar and after that Qantas and the pits are QantasLink! Overseas, Singapore airlines are very good still! British Airways are the worst I have encountered! I honestly think all airlines, domestically or international, are nowhere near as good as they were pre-Covid!
I used Jetstar a lot to shore up my QF points and SCs. Sadly, whether we'd like it or not, QF's frequent flyer program is the best in the country, with Velocity coming in at a far distant second. Simply because QF, as part of one world has a better international reach. I'm using my QF points to Sapporo later this year so I can see snow, and no way I'm flying QF to Japan. Instead, the points got me a seat with China Airlines via Taipei. I will never ever fly QF international if I can help it.
Ryan looks to me like you got a very good flight. Even if you added on all the extras you got and paid for it all, starting at a base fare of $271 it's hard to see it getting close to $795, which is more than ScootPlus costs for the same leg. I must say in general I have found Jetstar have better cabin crew than Qantas too. Even the Australian based crew seem to have more perkiness and positivity about them. They are younger - Qantas crew I feel have been around for ages and perhaps they are tired of the job or the company. As you brought up in a video, cabin crew are very poorly paid. And if they are based in Thailand etc thats just the excuse Qantas looks for to spend even less money. Great review. as always. you are single handedly changing my views on JetStar whilst reinforcing my already held views on Qantas!
FYI, AUD271 isn't even the base fare. This fare is with frills (QF points, SCs and meals). I've personally never had a problem with JQ. I could be lucky.
Jetstar economy middle seat Ryan you are a brave man
I take one for the team to create videos like this one. 🤣
I dont like middel seat, Great video ❤
Hahaha no one does! Thanks for popping by!
I'd love the amenity kit because I've flown Jetstar Dreamliner to Denpasar a few times, and it would be a great memento 👍❤️
Entered! Will announce it on Instagram!
Love your work 💞
@@gb_victor7951 thanks for your support, ALWAYS
You are a beautiful human and fellow avgeek
I'm so grateful to have found you! Pretty please I would love a. JQ amenity pack ❤
As long as the 3 conditions are met, I'll put your name into the draw. What's your Instagram handle?
Another reason not to fly Qantas. Did I get you right? The fare is Qantas $795 and Jetstar $271. So for a difference of $524 you get only lasagne and banana bread, but no alcohol?
Yes those fares are for a one way in economy class with QF points and status credits. With a $10 food credit for JQ.
omg with all the qantas drama, at this point id rather take an already risky move and just fly jetstar!!!
Hahaha .. I know right? Make sure you watch the video when it premiers!
Unfortunately there are some domestic sectors in Australia where you have no choice but to fly Jetstar but international flights for me it’s a no go ! SQ all the way, no QF or JQ !
SQ is in a league of their own
As airport staff you can always identify Jetstar passengers with Qantas tickets when they disembark….they always look grump and dissatisfied.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I booked with qantas points for my daughter to fly from adl to lax and without noticing she was going to on jetstar to syd then american airlines to lax. Yet for the same points you could travel all the way with qantas. What bugged me though was that i had to pay on jetstar and AA for a seat yet for qantas it would havd been free. Qantas phone people basically said bad luck as i booked it. Not apples for apples for the same points.
Yep, same here. QF is like tough luck. You booked with AF, not our problem. AF was like this is a QF issue, not our problem. 🤦
Recently my family were booked onto Singapore Airlines BNE to Davao City Philippines. The leg from BNE was very good, what we expected from SIA, however we were then stuck onto their budget airline Scoot for the flight to Davao. No entertainment, shorter leg room, mediocre hotbox meal and no drink service eg alcohol drinks which was provided on the previous airline SILKAIR, now defunct. Scoot would be good if you paid budget fares but we paid full SIA fares. Disappointed.
Did you know at booking it would be Scoot in the shorter sector?
Send me the kit as I am never going to travel on Jetstar so will never have the opportunity of getting one. Looking forward to seeing your transit in CDG
Ha sure as long as all the 3 conditions are fulfilled. What's your Instagram handle?
Ryan I'll be spending a weekend in Adelaide later year, hopefully. Any tips on what to see in my short time there?
It really depends on what you like! Adelaide is known as a 20 minute city. Because we're roughly 20 minutes to the sea, or the hills. I live up north in wine country so if you're into that, you'll be spoilt for choice with HEAPS of wineries.
@@ryansofly I'm into museums, zoos, and food, if that helps :)
@@arokh72 ah ok... They're located along North Terrace. I've never been to any because I live here. 😏
@@ryansofly that's like me and Sydney, when I lived there 😀 It's channels like yours that show me what I've been missing even in the city I once lived in.
@@arokh72 hahaha yeah. I actually don't even live IN Adelaide. I'm further out in wine country close to Barossa Valley.
Nice review, shame the experience was disappointing though
I actually felt this flight was alright.
@@ryansofly yeah the flight itself didn't look too bad, just a shame it wasn't what you originally booked
U should just fly singapore airlines.
Ha perhaps in time I will.
I am kind of dreading my April flight from Honolulu to Melbourne in economy!
Hahahaha... It's really not that bad!
Should’ve tried to change everything to Christmas Day, that’s when we left Melbourne for Darwin and the airport was quite emptier than usual
Nah, I've learnt not to screw around with flights so close to Xmas. Plus we had hotel bookings, car rentals etc which would have been affected.
Oh yeah true
wow, personally never had any issue with Jetstar and I've been flying with them internationally since they had the A330's
JQ is fine by my books. The only issue is when something goes wrong. They have little to no support.
Good vid, cheap fare to Singapore. Possibly id do it
Ha do it! 😏
My daughter flew Brisbane / Singapore Christmas Eve on Singapore airlines . From what she experienced I think your Jetstar flight was far better . 😂
What on earth went wrong ???
Woah really? What happened?
Great trip report! It's a shame that the meals look very similar with QF and JQ, just demonstrates how much QF have cut costs. Is that your husband sitting next to you?
Yes he is next to me. Indeed, QF has fallen so far down the cliff over the last decade.
@@ryansofly handsome fella as are you!
Why would you use the dungeon business lounge at Melbourne? First class lounge is so much better
If only I could just walk in there like I own it! Hahaha... Unfortunately I'm not a platinum.
@@ryansofly I had a hell of a time earlier this month with them. On my birthday I flew JetStar from Sydney to Melbourne with my partner and since it took off from the international terminal (JQ63) had access to the First class lounge. Then was booked on a Qantas classic award from Melbourne to Perth flying QF9 and again got to access the wonderful Flounge. Not only that, when we got there, they even had a slot available for the spa, which naturally my partner took!
I agree the Jetstar product isn’t really much different to qantas and way cheaper with nicer staff
If you book JQ with max bundle, it gives you heaps more QF points and status credits too! Then use those points to fly any other airline besides QF. Hahaha...
Thank you Ryan. This review has me a bit concerned that something similar might possibly happen to my wife and myself. In April we are flying Sydney-Incheon and return in economy. I booked Qantas (QF87) for two reasons: it is cheaper than Korean Air/Asiana and uses the A330 with 2-4-2 seating which is preferable for us. My concern is that there is also a Jetstar flight (JQ47) at almost identical times. We don't have much leeway with dates should QF87 be cancelled, so we could possibly be looking at an experience similar to yours. Hopefully not but the advice in your video will be quite valuable should we be affected!
There is so little difference between QF and JQ these days with their economy class product.
Strange you should mention JQ47! See below! 😏
th-cam.com/video/RRIdaqOLgNY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RQQ_jUxUTxezMlFY
I actually took QF87 only a couple of months ago (around the endpoint of all the drama surrounding Qantas). The flight was actually relatively positive (at least exceeding my expectations). The seat was fairly comfortable (pretty wide coming in at around 17.5 inches) + the footrest below the seat (yes in economy!) The crew were relatively quiet but still came around and did snack services and did their job pretty well. Qantas’ A330-300s feel no where near as cramped as Jetstar’s 787-8s I presume. The biggest and possibly only noticeable benefit you might find on Jetstar’s Dreamliners is the noise level as the A330 is quite a loud plane even towards the very back. I’m assuming that Qantas’ own 787-9’s (used on the longer flights but not QF87) are a better experience nowadays than the A330 as the measurements and features seem quite good considering it’s an economy product on a Dreamliner. I must say though that Jetstar certainly seems to be catching up to Qantas possibly in addition to the latter’s recent downfall and the difference may not be enough that it may be worth the cheaper price on Jetstar. Hope you enjoy your experience no matter what!
@@TheMergeBuff45 the -300 is definitely a better ride compared to the -200. The latter is domestic configured but QF has cheekily used them as far as HNL and LAX. Tsk...
@@ryansoflyI always knew the 200 had a domestic config. I believe they do have an international configuration as well, or well at least I think so. That one is a little bit better than the domestic version but still not as good as the 300. At least with the 300, there is only 1 configuration (besides the wet-leased aircraft from Finnair), so you know what you’re getting. I have however also seen 200s recently on QF87 so be prepared. That’s just a cheap move from Qantas however equipment changes do happen a lot so there’s that, but I’m still not a big fan of the move especially if you stated that they keep breaking down. Back in September when I took my flight on QF87, there was a 200 at the gate and that got me concerned at first until it was eventually on a pushback truck and my 300 came in. It’s important to note that Qantas will be getting rid of their A330s from 2027 onwards in favour of the Dreamliner and the A350 (both of which should have better products unless if Qantas makes the cost-cutting move of installing 10-abreast on the A350 in economy).
@@ryansofly Interestingly, I have trip planned to the U.S. with a stop in Honolulu on the way back, and I’m still heavily considering using Qantas for that sector. At least according to Google Flights, they’re saying that flight will be operated by a 787 instead of the A330-300s they’re usually using on that route currently. It wasn’t a Qantas flight being operated by Jetstar but really a fully-operated Qantas flight, so it may seem that the A330-300s are going to be fazed out on that route like QF25/26 to and from Tokyo. They’ll sadly just probably make an equipment swap to A330 anyways but it could be interesting seeing Qantas’ 787-9 on that route especially considering that Jetstar also operates their 787 on that route. It may test which one is better although it’s probably the Qantas Dreamliner considering that it supposedly has a better product even over the A330-300.
I do prefer the 2 4 2 of the A330 over the 3 3 3 of the B787.
You got a point there. Now if only the A330 wasn't breaking down so often.
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You're welcome!
I stopped flying BA to Sydney or Melbourne as 1st stopover then next on Qantas to Adelaide now I travel on Qatar
I remember the good old days when BA flew to ADL BNE PER and MEL from Changi. These days only the SYD flight remains.
That is so cramped no way I could fit in economy on jetstar. Did you get your bags at the end as jetstar often loses bags. I need premium economy at a minimum just to fit.
JQ delivered and bags made it to Malta. JQ seats are actually similar to QF in width so I had no issue fitting in.
In 2011 I ended up with food poisoning from the food on jetstar on a Melbourne to Bangkok never again! I did fly in star class I think it was premium economy.
Far out... Seriously... 😮
My back hurts just watching this video
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I may be under some confusion, and correct me if I'm wrong, but QF35 on the 24th of December 2023 went ahead in the end. So that begs a question... why did Qantas cancel the flight and re-book you if QF35 actually went ahead in the end?
That was what I thought.... ! I saw it up on the FIDs but there was no status to it so I assumed it was cancelled. Now THAT is a question for QF then. We booked it a year in advance so that is a mystery.
@@ryansofly Qantas being Qantas 🤦♂️
Since you started off the video with a bunch on nicknames for Jetstar... If you wanna add one to the Qantas collection... you could do c***a**?? 😂
@@AJ_747 what arseholes they are! Arseholes....
I miss u grandpa and Ryan :(
Flew JetStar CNS to Tokyo on the 787. Returned Qantas to BNE on A330. The JetStar flight was far superior for service & comfort. Will never fly Qantas International again. Next International flight is with SIA.
Yep, I felt the same.
I find the thought of being seated in front a card swipe machine horrible. I want to feel like a valued passenger whether I pay for pointy or arse end of the plane - not someone being encouraged to spend. Far to in your face. For that reason I will not fly Jetstar economy - I'd prefer Scoot with no IFE. Separately, I think it was pointed out on one of your earlier vids (not sure by who) that Australia does not have laws like the EU to compensate pax when things like this happen.
Was that hubby on your right? Really looking forward to this series.
That's why you fly JQ with frills. The TV is already unlocked if you fly with the correct fare. I always fly with the MAX bundle in Business so it can make the experience somewhat normal. Yes, hubby's father was born on Gozo in Malta, that's where we were going to commemorate his father's birthday.
Jetstar are going too remove the screens shortly so will be the same as scoot with no screen...bad desicion..but i only fly Jetstar if i can get a good price
As long as we still get WiFi streaming into our devices, I'm all good.
for that difference, should have got unlimited food and beverages. It's a bit of a joke that they moved you to a LCC and not given you back the price difference.
Yep, shit happens. And QF is full of it.
How do you blame QANTAS when you booked through Air France
Air France DID NOT cancel. QANTAS did.
Personally despite Jetstar having good service, I’ve rather fly with them domestically than Internationally.
The 787s aren't that bad... If they're on time, of course.
Yep, If they are not on time, they can cause delays and I am travelling to Bangkok in September and I might think about going with them.
I never fly on Qantas or Jetstar unless the company pays for them, simply a horrible company
I don't disagree with you.
This happened to me too :)
Yeah it happens a lot.
Perhaps they caught your previous video, and this was their response.
Haha nah... Their A330s keep breaking down
Hi Ryan
Not getting free alcohol on Jetstar is not good enough. Write to the CEO Hudson and demand a partial refund for the lack of availability on your bumped flight.
Nah, ain't gonna happen... It's QF.
I got Qantased too. Flew to Denpasar but ended up in Perth due to “instrument failure”. Avoid.
Sorry... What? You were flying to DPS from where?
@@ryansoflyAntarctica
Still better treatment than Singapore Air I reckon. Don’t believe me? Talk to the countless PPS Solitaire members who lost lifetime status due to a policy change. And don’t get me started with the lounges at Changi! A disaster! Makes you want to fly Qantas or JetStar out of there so you can at least get the QF Flounge
You know, SQ is one of those airlines who can treat their frequent flyers like shit and people will still grovel their way back.
Crapstar is one of the worst. Been screwed over by them on several international flights. Never again.
Scoot is better than crapstar
Gosh... What happened?
@@ryansofly cancelled flights 3hrs before departure due to “mechanical issue” (later found out no mechanical issue at all) and even though travelling with wife, they put us on two different aircraft. She via BNE and I was routed via Perth. Then “mechanical issue” again in our return flight. Crap service, crap airline crap everything = crapstar.
Well to me I'd always go for the cheaper one 😂
Hehe JQ really isn't that bad.
Qantas? what more need you say?
They did not even give me a chance to trash their economy product. 😅
Hell no. I wont fly any eco class literally no break from east coast of australia to Europe without a day off in Singapore, for a total of 8hrs + 12 hrs. And no more i am flying no frill airlines for flying above 3 hours. Thats torturing. I rather saved my money and stay at home.
I wont even need to watch the rest of the video to tell how amazingly your cushion flights will turn out.
I don't normally fly such a distance in YCL. But I was paying for 2 seats so this is all I could afford. Hahahaha....
Kinda pretentious thinking I'm gonna actually "want" and "compete" some dumb ass amenity kit from some low cost airline.
Lol... All good mate.
Soon you can fly Turkish ex Melb into Singapore. I wouldn't give Qantas Group a dime of my money. Ever.
Exactly. You are spoilt for choice when flying from MEL to SIN. You can choose to fly with Emirates, SIA, Turkish or Scoot instead of Qantas Group
I cannot wait to try them out!
It’s a said state of affairs when l as a Australian would NOT fly on either Jetstar or Quantas they offer what l believe is poor service being you can never count on your flight ever leaving l would rather pay a higher price to ensure your going to have your plane get you away when they say and have you returned home on time.
That's the thing... International airlines flying from Australia offer a FAR higher level of service, reliability, for a lot less $$$. I use my QF points to redeem flights on other airlines but QF. If I pay to fly QF, I'd just go with JQ because they're cheaper and give me a lot more points and status credits.
Flew jetstar for the first time and they recked my bag so angry
Oh nooooo.... Did they do it or the ground handler?
@@ryansofly not to sure
@@kristypaul8067 yep, many airlines (including JQ) employs ground handlers to manage baggage. So it might not be JQ's fault after all.
The 787 economy is too small for a long haul flight.
These seats are actually standard economy, similar seats to other regular airlines.
@ryansofly1624 the a380 has more room. I've done both planes to the UAE and the Airbus is much better.
Maybe you need to double check why you were moved off QF35 before blaming Qantas. It's a bit confusing to work out what day you actually travelled because your video is time stamped 23 December and you state in the video you travelled on Christmas Eve. A quick Flightradar24 check shows that QF35 operated on both those dates. 23 December was about 18minutes late and the 24th was early, so no problems with the Qantas A330 fleet. At least not on those 2 days. What the hell??
That's a mystery I have not been able to solve... Why we were bumped off QF. Our notification came via AirFrance who said QF cancelled. 🤷
@@ryansofly Perhaps Air France were selling tickets on QF that they didn't actually have? I've flown JQ long haul economy on the 787 a few times and find it perfectly adequate and comfortable. I've done QF long haul on the 330 and it was the pits. The only thing is I wouldn't choose JQ if I had a connection to make.
@@nica1639 haha who knows? It made for some great story telling though! The Air France flight after this was equally eventful.
The worst airline I have ever been on
They are Australia's most hated airline.
what do you think of this downgrade?
disgusting but that's qantas for you
It was Xmas eve so I was just grateful to fly. Think it was rich of QF to not provide any monetary compensation for this downgrade.
I hope they refunded you the difference in money.
It's QF, of course they did not.
Do you need a travel buddy, I’m available ❤️🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺
Hahahaha.... Nice. Who knows?
Wow I can’t stand jet star or Qantas I would never fly with them again I have flown first with Qantas and star ⭐️ with jet star Alan the former ceo 🧑💼 ruined both airlines best wishes
Hahahahaha.... Those 2 airlines must've give you heaps of grief!
Your constant bashing of QF is getting a bit tired. Never had a problem domestic.Always friendly crew. International very different though.
I've never ever had an issue with the QF crew. Tired or not, well these stories keep creating themselves. Don't expect me to keep quiet about it.
For their price gouging and other indiscretions over the last few years, they deserve all the condemnation they get. Personally I hope they go under.
So the issue wasnt qantas. They cancelled and rescheduled you. You can elect to rebook a different flight but did not. Tge seating coukd have been sorted as you had a whole month to choose seats. Princess karen complaint.
Ah here we go... I'd like to see you sort your seats out a month out from Xmas departing Australia.
Thank goodness I’m flying Emirates international instead.
Lucky you!