S58 has now been out for 4 years and not one major problem or even small issues with it reported. Simply the best engine in the game right now. These things can hold 1000hp and not break a sweat. Love the m2.
Picked mine up 2 weeks ago. I ordered it without ever driving, or even seeing on in person. I’ve never driven any BMW until this one. It has definitely exceeded my expectations and I’m not even through the break-in period.
Same, but it really is a great all rounder. Fun daily, hooligan when you want it to be, very quick on track, kids fit in the back. I disagree about immediacy though. Turbo lag is enormous at lower rpms
@@diskreetI love mine to pieces every day. sitting at 3-4000 rpm 2nd through 4th. my car never exhibits lag because I don’t drive it that way.. like never. I cannot understand why anyone would. tell ya what… if you’re driving 10mph in 5th gear you’ve much larger problems than turbo lag… jus sayin
Incredibly happy with mine. My first BMW and M car. S58 just pulls like a train, and so smoothly at that. Got to 150 on the parkway effortlessly right at the shift to 5th gear and I let off, but it wanted to keep going.
@@gamingmamba2584you’re not alone. It’s just hive mind mentality. It is a beautiful, muscular car with amazing street presence and angles. I love how it’s so different from anything else BMW has done
Me recordo a todo lo especial que era el M3 E46 y E92 ... todas esas ricas sensaciones de control, fluidez de potencia, lo q lo hizo leyenda para los conductores sin tanta electronica y obvio una MANUAL DE 6 VELOCIDADES ❤
This make me happy. A lot of people have said a lot of bad things about this car, primarily for its looks and weight. But ive ikes it since day one. What BMWs have won PCOTY?
It’s a great car, one of the best for sale today. And looks are surely subjective. But the weight is a valid criticism. What most ppl don’t understand is you can engineer a heavy car to go fast, but you can’t engineer the dynamics of a lighter car. The real world outcome is a Super competent sports car that feels more disconnected from the experience than cars of the past. More numb would be another way to put it. But if you’ve never driven a past one (especially with hydraulic steering) go for it! You won’t know the difference and will be very happy everyday you own it. -f87 owner
F87 has no hydraulic steering, G87 is superior car than F87c , has much more grip on both axels, turn in is much sharper now. F87 suspension was jarring and bouncy , G87 is much improved with better handling, power is also next level. There's actually 65kg difference between G87 and F87c both with full tank if u put them on a scale. In summary G87 is faster on a straight and on a track than F87C plus has much nicer interior and a best engine in the business for a bargain price.
@@karolmaciejewski340 I didn’t say f87c. And I really hope the steering is getting better cuz f87 was mid at best. I also never said f87 was hydraulic either. No need to get so defensive! 😂 weight is weight mate, I never said the new one wasn’t faster or more competent I said it was more numb, which is objectively is, because you can’t beat physics. If weight didn’t matter race cars would all be heavy. Nothing that I said discounts your points or vice versa.
I drove up to downtown San Jose recently and saw one of these, outfitted with a clean wide body kit, presumably wheel spacers, and a deck lid spoiler. Normally I’m not a fan of wide body kits, but it looked very good.
I don't have any skin in the game, but it's funny that the M2 lost to the Dark Horse in the head to head article a while back, but now it beats it for PFotY? Hmm...
@canonical8715 if I had to guess, early November...finding a dealer with an open allocation is tough, people seem to be warming up to these cars and there is a power bump in 2025
Is that really the only stat you can flex? lmao Go out and test drive a M2. You'll be happy the direction BMW has taken when compared to other car manufacturers. Or you can just sit around putting your E39 on a scale. Totally up to you. Whatever makes you happy.
@@radglitch7233 Given your use of the word "flex" defines everything I need to know about you. My E39's are maintained by me and naturally paid for. Is your M2 paid for? And if you want to meet in person so you can "flex" on me. I am up for that.
@@stefanschuchardt5734 Lets do this. I wager my E39 M5 with me driving, is faster around a track than you and your M2. Lets meet in person, so you can "flex" for real. Enough with this online nonsense.
Love mine! Tuned to 700HP is a big improvmenet with the 6 speed being odd ratios. Build quality is lack luster though. So many rattles the dealer can't seem to fix....
@@hpickettz34 and? It's a buying consideration for anyone i've ever met looking to buy a vehicle. For me, it doesn't matter how much performance is delivered, if the vehicle is ugly, it's a hard pass.
@@G82Watts to each his own my guy, just because i dont like it doesn't matter for others that might like it. It's only a face a mother could love IMO. It needs completely revised front and rear bumpers and then i'd probably be much better looking but this muscular mix of sharp angles and marshmallows is not doing it for me.
So they don't actually "track test" cars anymore? They just drive around the track and talk about the car, with a history lesson added in about the car ? Where are the numbers? Track times? It's just an opinionated review of the car these days? 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
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At first, I hated the looks of it. However, it’s really grown on me. Now, there’s one sitting in my driveway. Superb car.
mfs after seeing every new bmw ever
enjoy your new m2 bro
I ordered 2025 with power bump
@@fzr1000981same here! Also in the same boat as the OP, hated the looks, but its really grown on me. Skyscraper grey and bi-colour wheels for me
@@fusion2258 portimao blue with silver wheels
@@fzr1000981me too. Hopefully arriving by early January
S58 has now been out for 4 years and not one major problem or even small issues with it reported. Simply the best engine in the game right now. These things can hold 1000hp and not break a sweat. Love the m2.
It’s lacking in attractiveness.
@@mik3ymomo refer to r44 bagged m2.
The Gen III B58 is having all the problems in the current BMW I6 lineup.
@@MikeBaloga lipstick on a pig.
@@MikeBalogawhat else has the Gen3 B58 in it?
Picked mine up 2 weeks ago. I ordered it without ever driving, or even seeing on in person. I’ve never driven any BMW until this one. It has definitely exceeded my expectations and I’m not even through the break-in period.
Kudos for the manual transmission. That's almost enough to win on its own.
As someone that owns this exact car in black I’m happy to see it win, but perhaps as surprised as anyone
Black g87 owner here too. Ive considered the cayman gts and new Emira but performance per dollar...this works much better
I have a 2024 ZB in my driveway. Given the competition, I’m also shocked. The car is great fun, though. Now with some extra accolades!
Same, but it really is a great all rounder. Fun daily, hooligan when you want it to be, very quick on track, kids fit in the back.
I disagree about immediacy though. Turbo lag is enormous at lower rpms
@@diskreetI love mine to pieces every day. sitting at 3-4000 rpm 2nd through 4th. my car never exhibits lag because I don’t drive it that way.. like never. I cannot understand why anyone would. tell ya what… if you’re driving 10mph in 5th gear you’ve much larger problems than turbo lag… jus sayin
Incredibly happy with mine. My first BMW and M car. S58 just pulls like a train, and so smoothly at that. Got to 150 on the parkway effortlessly right at the shift to 5th gear and I let off, but it wanted to keep going.
Awesome car. Lets all tip our hats to BMW for still offering a MANUAL!!!!
S58 Gang 🔥🔥🔥
Haha
Legendary engine
First Mexican to ever win!
Mexico’s best car for sure
I own one... just love it.
It has turn signals !!😂
I genuinely thought I was the only person alive who really liked the design of the M2. I'm not alone!
I really like It to, don't understand the hate
I like it as well, this and the M3 I do think are actually pretty nice looking cars.
@@gamingmamba2584you’re not alone. It’s just hive mind mentality. It is a beautiful, muscular car with amazing street presence and angles. I love how it’s so different from anything else BMW has done
I really like new M2, great bargin and happy that "affordable" car won
I’ve had mine for four weeks after having most of the other M cars over the last 20 yrs or so. This is maybe my favourite!!!! 🎉
Me recordo a todo lo especial que era el M3 E46 y E92 ... todas esas ricas sensaciones de control, fluidez de potencia, lo q lo hizo leyenda para los conductores sin tanta electronica y obvio una MANUAL DE 6 VELOCIDADES ❤
The premium German car made in Mexico
That engine is the cherry on the cake, in historie of M Power!
Driving one of these on the German autobahn is something else, honestly. It is a monster of a car.
This make me happy. A lot of people have said a lot of bad things about this car, primarily for its looks and weight. But ive ikes it since day one. What BMWs have won PCOTY?
It’s a great car, one of the best for sale today. And looks are surely subjective. But the weight is a valid criticism. What most ppl don’t understand is you can engineer a heavy car to go fast, but you can’t engineer the dynamics of a lighter car. The real world outcome is a Super competent sports car that feels more disconnected from the experience than cars of the past. More numb would be another way to put it. But if you’ve never driven a past one (especially with hydraulic steering) go for it! You won’t know the difference and will be very happy everyday you own it. -f87 owner
F87 has no hydraulic steering, G87 is superior car than F87c , has much more grip on both axels, turn in is much sharper now. F87 suspension was jarring and bouncy , G87 is much improved with better handling, power is also next level. There's actually 65kg difference between G87 and F87c both with full tank if u put them on a scale. In summary G87 is faster on a straight and on a track than F87C plus has much nicer interior and a best engine in the business for a bargain price.
@@karolmaciejewski340 I didn’t say f87c. And I really hope the steering is getting better cuz f87 was mid at best. I also never said f87 was hydraulic either. No need to get so defensive! 😂 weight is weight mate, I never said the new one wasn’t faster or more competent I said it was more numb, which is objectively is, because you can’t beat physics. If weight didn’t matter race cars would all be heavy. Nothing that I said discounts your points or vice versa.
M2 for the win! 🏆 I’m glad I have one! ☝🏾
Love my alpine white g87! Good taste sir👌🏾
Wow! It’s not a Porsche. Well I guess you can’t win every year.
Put money down January 2023. Received in September. One year in, 0 issues and excited daily to row it!
This car will lend itself very well if Lego decides to make a Technic model.
I must get one, seems like the perfect upgrade from my MKV Supra.
Were there any performance criteria in the judging criteria? I only heard things like value and comfort listed.
I drove up to downtown San Jose recently and saw one of these, outfitted with a clean wide body kit, presumably wheel spacers, and a deck lid spoiler. Normally I’m not a fan of wide body kits, but it looked very good.
Lots of sperlatives but very little info.
This makes sense its relatively affordable and excellent performance.
I don't have any skin in the game, but it's funny that the M2 lost to the Dark Horse in the head to head article a while back, but now it beats it for PFotY? Hmm...
They addressed that in the video and article
They will choose a EU car wether
Its inferior or not lol
Bout the looks,well I know alot of folks don't like it but I do love the looks of it.
Love it , fantastic car
M cars are truly one of a kind machines, they do everything well
That’s why I want one Lexus owner
Wonderful car, but y'all seemingly don't know what superlatives are
Really does grow on you
M cars are pretty much supercars, they just don't look like it.
It was clearly not a beauty contest 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Eh it's just on video and in completely stock form. Just needs to be lowered and get some subtle aftermarket parts and they look insane.
@@G82Watts 100%. it actually looks great in person but with just a few cheap mods, it looks even more mean and aggressive.
@@js002003 r44 bagged m2 is one example of what great parts can do.
I like its performance. Thats it...
Atleast you can't see it from the inside.
This used to be the best TH-cam
Channel dedicated to cars.
How the mighty have fallen...
@@MrHighlyEvolved they fired everyone and got rid of the great shows like head to head and ignition. But kept Johny Lieberman (face palm)
@@Mglobal.enterprise Yep, I agere 100%. Lieberman is among the most annoying people out there, along with Doug Demuro.
Yes, the days of head to head and ignition
@@MrHighlyEvolved they should have put Randy Pobst on a lifetime contract.
It's only July.
I think they do it based on manufacturers, since they are now selling "2025" vehicles
Well all 2024’s May have been in production already for 6m. 2025’s will coming in in the next few months.
I’m a little older these days so I don’t do cars. However, I have an x3m comp and can attest to how much of a blast it is to drive an s58.
“the steering for example is wonderfully light but nicely weighted” …what?
This sounded like a paid advertisement...
The BMW M2 is a great gateway car to other BMW's.
Is that an Omega watch?
This dude has the best job ever!!
Oof.. That's definitely an option I guess ... Best and that m2... Yipes
M2 beautiful
Nice❤
Thank you young Christian Slater with a mustache!
We drive our bmw 3-series like it's an M car.
And the CS version was not released yet! 😁💪
Now im undecided. G87 or G80? 😩
These cars seem very tail happy. People spin them frequently leaving car shows
F series yes G series no
I’ve been in a g87 on the Nurburgring, it was planted the entire time
❤
Cant decide btween this and the lc 500. Lc is about 15k more😢😢
GT3RS tho.
Fax the GT3RS would destroy that BMW
Is he wearing an Omega Heritage 300m?
2024 performance car of the year, yet they show the 2023 model!
2025 in portimao blue on order
When does it arrive? My M240 is that color and I love it. Can’t decide if I’m ordering my M2 in that color.
@canonical8715 if I had to guess, early November...finding a dealer with an open allocation is tough, people seem to be warming up to these cars and there is a power bump in 2025
My E39 weighs less? Amazing how much junk new cars have.
And yet it will blow your E39 out of the water! Weight isn't everything.
Is that really the only stat you can flex? lmao
Go out and test drive a M2. You'll be happy the direction BMW has taken when compared to other car manufacturers.
Or you can just sit around putting your E39 on a scale. Totally up to you. Whatever makes you happy.
@@radglitch7233 Given your use of the word "flex" defines everything I need to know about you. My E39's are maintained by me and naturally paid for. Is your M2 paid for? And if you want to meet in person so you can "flex" on me. I am up for that.
@@radglitch7233 PS: You are obviously too ignorant to understand the important concept of power to weight.
@@stefanschuchardt5734 Lets do this. I wager my E39 M5 with me driving, is faster around a track than you and your M2. Lets meet in person, so you can "flex" for real. Enough with this online nonsense.
5027 Patricia Shores
Noel Ridge
Portimao blue please
Performance ‘bargain’ for $70k 😮
Adrain Rapids
39637 Jaylin Plains
Emerald Ridges
Love mine! Tuned to 700HP is a big improvmenet with the 6 speed being odd ratios. Build quality is lack luster though. So many rattles the dealer can't seem to fix....
Strange I have no rattles at all in mine
Great car but where I would spend all my time is behind the wheel and that space does not inspire...at all
Johns Groves
Pass
Wisozk Summit
Vena Creek
Anita Courts
Kraig Brooks
Nissan Z looks better.
For $70k I much rather buy a used Corvette Z06.
the 2025 z06 starting price is $113,795...
@@xdmds200092 a use C7
Ankunding Fork
nice that it has a manual transmission. Other than that...meh.
Too bad it weighs almost 4000 pounds.
Fritsch Place
This feels like an April fools joke.
Nobody ever accused you of being smart, right?
Did the car get a 2/10 for paint color? That would be generous.
Take a Mustang over this anytime
Said no one ever
@@karolmaciejewski340 Especially crowds
agreed {2018-2023} m2, a couple ticks SLOWER than a manual GT
nobody doubts the performance, it's the looks that are hideous that is the problem.
Looks is a personal opinion.
@@hpickettz34 and? It's a buying consideration for anyone i've ever met looking to buy a vehicle. For me, it doesn't matter how much performance is delivered, if the vehicle is ugly, it's a hard pass.
@@MikeBaloga r44 bagged m2. Tell me that's ugly. Just needs to be lowered and subtle other things and it's 🔥
@@G82Watts to each his own my guy, just because i dont like it doesn't matter for others that might like it. It's only a face a mother could love IMO. It needs completely revised front and rear bumpers and then i'd probably be much better looking but this muscular mix of sharp angles and marshmallows is not doing it for me.
this is word salad. motortrend fell off
Looks absolutely hideous
I suppose looks no longer factor in…
So they don't actually "track test" cars anymore? They just drive around the track and talk about the car, with a history lesson added in about the car ? Where are the numbers? Track times? It's just an opinionated review of the car these days?
🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
I would take an S3 / RS3 over any BMW
L
RS3 all day!👍
Awd no.
BMW, really… 👎🏼
Why exactly?
Because GT3 RS didn't win?
I love bmw m2 and m3
The 718 manual is a way better option
I’m kind of surprised BUT I’M A BMW FAN and hope to own one day.
What did you want to win?
God these are ugly in OEM spec! Anyone saying otherwise has never seen anything remotely good-looking in their life.