I test drove one before I bought the m140i the m140i is faster, the handling on the m2 was better, stuck with the b58 and engine compared to the old n55 in OG m2
I have an OG LCI DTC . Had it for three years now . Pound for pound you ain’t getting a better sports car . Straight out of the box they are brilliant. Mines a keeper ❤️
2016 OG owner here. I would have liked you talked about what goes wrong on these cars. The water pump, thermostat, wheel bearings/hub assemblies, brake rotors rusting out like crazy.. there is SO much that can go wrong with these things and it sucks that channels like yours just address only the good while completely ignoring the bad and the ugly. They are NOT cheap to fix and maintain - even for simple things like cooling system bits and pieces - and any example with around 80k miles on it will need a HEAP of work if you're buying used.
@@Zokmonkey I do and literally no main channel has shown how absolutely piss poor the rear hub design is when water gets trapped in there and it rusts. This leads to a serious and expensive problem. I’m now having to replace not just the hubs and bearings, but also both wheel carrier arms, output shafts, the handbrake system, the discs, the pads, the rotors and all associated hardware. This is a $7000 job… even when I’m buying most of my stuff from FCP euro, ECS, Turner and BimmerWorld.
I did the same but pre lci and have no regrets about it. The M lites are just not special to drive unless you spend a lot of money on them but why bother when you can get an M for probably less money by the time you have tryed to turn the 140 into something it’s not. Also the looks of the M2 you could never replicate
Bought a 2017 1 of 150 performance edition 2 months ago, couldn't be any happier. I got really lucky finding one with only 8k miles in 2024. Gonna be my baby forever
This blows away the new car for me, not in terms of performance obviously but it just has character to spare. Of the two I imagine it’s the keeper. Some properly lit sends from jack in this one, that drift day paying off already 🔥
Couldn't agree more. In the last few years I've had a lot of different sports cars (Cayman GT4, A90 Supra, Mustang Mach One, etc etc) and the N55 M2 I've had for the last few months is genuinely my favourite out of all of them, especially after going decat and remap
Hey this video was AMAZING! Im about to buy one most likely a manual. And no matter what happens I will keep this car forever! Its been my dreamcar for so many years and can finally become reality
I have had my manual og lci since 2019, I don't plan on ever selling it, its the only BMW I have ever owned and its one of the best and most fun cars I have ever driven!
I‘ve had a manual OG M2. I seriously think bang for the buck this is amazing. Cool wide body car, fantastic looks, wonderful sound, plenty powerful, RWD with limited slip differential and tip top suspension. Oh, and it‘s a reliable platform too. Only reason not to get it is if you‘re looking for massive power gains.
I agree. The new M2 made this one an instant keeper because we saw the aesthetics of BMW just go away. I saw one of these at a show over the weekend and instantly liked it so much better than the current M2.
Please stop making videos about the OG M2 … they’re still just a little out my budget and I’d love to buy one in the next 5 years but if you keep showing everyone how good it is the values won’t keep coming down 😂 great video mate.
I own pre lci mineral grey manual M2. I love this car mine is also lowered on Eibach and rest standard the car is awesome if you have the means go and pick one up it’s one of the best m’s out there I love it. Needs some carbon and I should pay guys autoid a visit
I bought one in the same colour and LCI last Nov and just put a VRSF sports cat on it. You can argue all you like about the S55 and it might be a better engine but the N55 with this cat and m perf exhaust is just glorious. I can't have a splitter due to the total crap roads around where I live but I do wish I could have one. I don't think you can go wrong with an OG M2, fantastic fun and you never get bored of looking at it
OG M2 owner here, pre LCI, love it. The last true M car, still quite small, still not too heavy, not stupid amounts of power just enough so that you can exploit it all on a road. Just a raw, str8 6 front engine'd RWD sports coupe.
@@ibrahimelmi210 I didn't say the N55 was better than the B58 did I ? I owned an M140i which I took from standard to 455bhp/634nm, and the B58 is a brilliant engine, the best modern BMW 6 in my opinion. No wonder it is gaining a reputation as the new 2JZ. The N55 in the OG M2 is not the same as the M135i/M235i, because it has forged internal parts, and other improvements, and if you worked in the motor trade for as long as myself, you might know this. I would prefer the B58 in my M2, but the N55 is still a great engine and very reliable, just not as tuneable as the B58. That doesn't matter to me, because I have a low mileage m2 which I am keeping standard. so I take your 'lol' and I throw it back at you, and then PMSL at your lack of knowledge and then trying to 'educate' somebody on the internet who obviously knows a LOT more than you do about the subject you are trying to preach son.
im aware of the upgrades to the n55 but if it was a different engine it wouldnt be called an n55. im not arguing with you or trying to teach you anything. like you said the b58 is faster that is a fact. but I just dont agree with your opinion (subjective) that its the last true M car when the S55 and S58 M2s exist. If anything the N55 M2 is the odd one out. dont know why you took it personal. even bmw changed the m2 to have an s55. @@DjNikGnashers
@@ibrahimelmi210 Not personal at all, I felt you needed to be corrected for your lack of knowledge by stating the S55 was a better engine than the B58, that is all. My statement was that the M2 was in my opinion, the last true M car. Not necessarily the OG M2, simply the M2 F87 of any model. I think the new G87 has gone too far, it is a very fast, and capable car, and still RWD, but too heavy, too refined, and too 'digital'. The F87 was still a raw and quite analogue machine. The M4, M5 etc, are just too big and heavy to be M cars, when you consider the original M car intentions, ie to be faster, lighter, more race/track ready versions of standard models. I don't believe any of the 2+ ton SUV's should have M car designations, it has devalued the M car name, and now is basically just a trim level.
i think you got no clue about cars. the n55b30 in the m2 is not even close to being the same as in the m135i. the only reason bmw changed the m2 to the s55 was because if emissions. in europe the n55 wasnt allowed anymore because they had to add the opf. the n55 in the m2 and the s55 are nearly the same engines. even though the s55 has nearly 50 hp and 100mn more the 0-100 100-200 times are nearly the same. the only thing that is better in the m2c is the seats and the m buttons. sound wise the n55 is miles head of the s55. thats why i bought the og one. @@ibrahimelmi210
Just bought a 2018 "OG" F87 with the M Performance Exhaust. Don't know if it drives better or sounds better but compared to an equally priced 2024 230, there was no comparison. (I did consider a miata with maybe a supercharger :)
Love my 2018 lci in lbb (with icons) 😅! Still haven't fitted the comp style mirrors i purchased from you last year but summer is coming! 100% the best car iv have owned and spirited drives in the country where I live are 👌 Dropped in value atm but I'm sure these are a future classic and will be worth a small fortune one day
I've had mine for nearly 2 years. It's insane. The only reason I would sell is if I needed 2 more doors. It gets crazy attention too and it just is an absolute beast. Best car I've ever owned. Came from a JCW.
Had the option to get a new M2 but I’ve kept my manual OG and saved a lot of money… think I would regret the exchange and think it’s a total waste of money upgrading. Nearly £70k for a new M2, no chance! I think the OG M2 is an absolute bargain if you like driving and having abit of fun at the same time. Just a perfect amount of power and has that old school look about it. Great video 👍
Agree regarding the OG M2 is an absolute steal right now - but you can pick up the new M2 without packs for about £55-£58k in places… still too expensive.
I a few months ago bought a stock 2018 m2 LCI 6spd manual full loaded. I chose this over the comp because i cant stand the sound of the s55 and if i did an s55 it would be a big single turbo conversion with crankhub upgrade and that alone is way to expensive before even making power. People underestimate the n55b. Mine now makes 535 whp on 93 and 675 whp on e50 with a flex fuel system. I did pure 750 turbo, HPFP and LPFP, new sparks and coils, VRSF FMIC, VRSF DP, M performance exhaust, charge pipe, inlet pipe, s55 carbon sturt and aluminum brace, tuner motorsport carbon fiber intake and a few clean up mods such as suveneer bmw gts hood and some carbon side skirts , rear diffuser and m2cs carbone fiber front lip, m4 front seats with reupholster leather and alcantara with blue stitching m2 head rest illuminated badge from bmw. Its been the most balanced car ive owned and sounds incredible and is absolutely fast. People sleep on the OG and get woke real quick. But my car is built for canyons, track (non drag), and occasional hwy fun. Someone will always be faster but does their actual driving skill out match you is the question. I will keep this car for more than a lifetime as it is very special.
I can only see the top part of the seat while you were driving, but I could see it was a one piece seat. Have the stock seats been replaced with m4 seats or something?
Would keep the 1M, it’s a pre-M2 and they share the same concept and soul. Also the 1M went up a lot in value and probably more in the future. Sometimes I have the same feeling that I want to experience something new, or to get something normal like a 430i but I would regret it so much in the long run.
Fully agree, not to mention the ecological malus of 50.000€ in France for a G87, or the fact that this M2 is one of the most beautiful car BMW has ver produced in my opinion! Beautiful specimen indeed you should be proud of! (I'd keep the shiny wheels...)
It was never a terrible car in the first place. A good car stays a good car even if the mext one supercedes it. You can still mod the older car. I'd be happy to own any of the M2s, even the new one now that I've seen people modding them.
I have an OG M2, the ONLY thing I wish the F87 M2s had is a high transmission tunnel (to make it feel like more of a cacoon - like traditional sports coupes, which the new M2 has). Apart from that things I prefer from the LCI which I wish mine had (but all doable), the LCI rear lights, CarPlay, and the black trim instead of chrome around kidney grills and side gills. And the front seats. But all upgradable. Performance wise… I wouldn’t change a thing - just this Sunday I was chasing a McLaren 720 on some country lanes for a good while… more than capable of keeping up with anything on the road.
No, I could get an M2C anytime I want but I prefer the N55 in this car. The car is lighter and more driveable for the street. Nobody can accuse me of bias as I also have a F80 M3 Comp.
@@TimChump so you have driven all M cars? an e30, e36 3.0 and 3.2, e46, e92 f82, g80, of and the m5’s, m8 etc? Because you said best M car ever. Its simply not. The steering alone makes it not the best
The way the car market is going in my knack of the woods, the M2C and OGM2 prices are interchangeable looking at spec (Manual/DCT, Sunroof, Mileage & Year) so for the price of an OGM2 the are M2C that I can also buy at that price point. So putting aside price ,spec etc. Just your honest opinion btwen the 2 cars which car really should one buy?
We think, at the same price, the M2C is the more sensible buy. It's got a better engine and interior for the money compared direct to a stock OG M2. However, the sound of the N55 is wonderful, so it's really down to preference.
As an ex-owner of 2 manual M235i’s at stage 1, I was never really impressed by the M2’s performance but the looks in my opinion … The F87 M2 is the most beautiful car BMW has ever made. With all the rage about the B58’s these days , most missed the window of the magical N55 post 2014. It seems to be fading now and it had its time but was by no means any slouch. At stage 1 I managed 330 whp with a catless downpipe twice , both did 100 - 200 in well under 10 seconds - that’s stock F87 M2 Competition times. A pre-owned M235i/M240i is all you need, well, until you can afford the 👑 S58. I patiently await my turn for G87 manual in white 🎉.
tbh gen 1 b58 is great but S55 is in some ways better. if the m2 had an s55 i would be very happy with it. but since it doesnt its a let down like you say. but the new gen 2 b58 is defintely on par or better than an s55 so imo the new m240xi is a better buy than an f87 for the same price
@@ibrahimelmi210 I steered very clear from the S55 because of the notorious crank hub issues pre-owned. Tbh my N55’s performance more than matched the S55 on stage 1 vs stock, I had loads of fun with them on the road and they would always be sour afterward with the results 🤓. Don’t confuse me though, if I could have afforded the ///M (fit the bill for Maintainence) I would have got one 👍🏼. But look, it was great for what it was, if they were launched in x drive as well back then the F80/82/87 ///M’s would have also been in the 10’s easily without too much work. With regards to the M2 not having an S55 - correct but the F87 M2 Competition did - also a great car but again not much faster in a straight line vs an M235/240i 💭 Note this is coming from me , an average petrolhead that’s been around for a while and only needs a car that gives great performance in a straight line and sometimes twisties - I don’t track or drag race my cars - rolling on the highway 🛣️ is cool 👌🏼. Bang 💥 for buck all depends on your pocket. Today : M235i ~ $20K M240i ~ $30K G 20. M340i ~ $45K G42. M240i ~ $50K The F series could still give you the same or better performance with not much spent on it for half the price if you’re on a budget. Also to the younger crowd on a lower end budget wanting your first BMW i6 - don’t discount the N55 , an M235/135/335i is still a great car if you find one in good nick with full service history at a dealer etc etc. change the oil every 5000 km , change the turbo and induction piping to carbon/ aluminium and it will take care of you. A catless downpipe and good tune is all the power you need (~400HP). But agreed 👍🏼, if it’s in your budget (also if it breaks - warranties are void with mods - the internet guys never tell you that 😩) the new B58 XDrive combos are great value for money. The S58’s are exorbitantly expensive right now 😅, I’ll have to wait.
@@Gokrin I got pilot sports 5s, lowered m4 under arms LSD, handles pretty descent got XHP3 gearbox map, thing goes like a slingshot long as it’s not wet
I’m 25 and growing up my neighbor had a E46 M3 & a 135i and that’s what made me a car guy and specifically a BMW guy. I hope that in the next 5 years (that long only bcuz i need it to be a financially responsible moment) I can buy a LCI OG M2 and I swear I will own it for the rest of my life. The perfect daily sports car and last successor to the e46 and 1M.
Have a DCT OG LCI. Driven M3/4s and other quick stuff from E46 onwards. F87 OG LCI is a real sweet spot. For the money I dont think you can touch it. I'd like an M4 CS or cayman GT4 at some point but whole different bracket
I chose the M2 OG LCI (2018) over the Competition model for a straightforward reason: the OG embodied BMW's intended vision for the M2 in terms of its driving dynamics and overall experience, while the Competition felt more like an afterthought (a detuned M4). This might explain BMW's decision to facelift the original M2. Also, it's noteworthy that BMW had to replace the N55 engine with the S55 in the M2 to comply with the then-new emission standards. Although I've sold my M2, when it's time to purchase another, I'll still opt for the OG M2, possibly a CS model due to its exclusivity and raw character.
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh Not when it's stock. I'm reluctant to talk about drag times when it comes to M cars, but let's make a brief analysis based on my verified findings on 'Ze Perfs': In the 1/4 mile, the M2 DCT OG clocks in at 12.7 seconds, whereas the M2 DCT Comp is slightly quicker at 12.5 seconds. Over 1 kilometer, the M2 OG records a time of 23.1 seconds, against the M2 Comp's 22.7 seconds. Personally, I don't think a 0.2 second difference in the 1/4 mile and a 0.4 second difference over a KILOMETER puts them in different leagues. In stock form, the OG's peaky low-down torque is what convinced me, the stock Comp felt too linear. Personally, I've never felt the need for more power so modding it was never an option especially since the car was still under warranty. Besides, it's worth noting that the suspension components in the OG LCI are identical to those in the Comp model, perhaps minor differences like the steering rack, carbon fibre strut brace, etc. They both share the same DCT box and M diff.
@@kratos9223 Just to add to this I have an F80 M3 Comp and a F87 M2. The N55 is better for street driving as the turbos come on wayyyy earlier. Love the top end of the S55 though. I get the best of both worlds.
g42 m240xi blows the n55 m2 out of the water for the same price. gen 2 b58 is just better than any n55. and you can turn off the awd and have fun with it.
This is the only M2 you should buy if you plan to keep it stock. If cost isn't a concern, consider getting an F87 CS instead. The S55 engine, while sharing common issues with the N55, such as leaky valve cover gaskets, also has additional problems. These include leaky turbos, crank hub, and charge cooler issues.
Those issues are not common in the S55. The crankhub blows up in a single digit % of cars. If the issue was over 10% than I’m pretty sure BMW would have made a recall.
People would keep saying more power but can't even slide the car around corners properly. Why do you need more power when you don't even have good hands.
@eldogo1 I'm running the PS2. If I were to do it again, I'd probably go with the Pure 750. It came out about 2 months after I had already installed the stage 2, haha.
@@micraw714hey bro I always see you commenting on the m2 videos and I recently picked up my og lci m2 and I was wondering for the future how much it would cost to get to high 400s, low 500s hp?
@ryan2k814 hey congrats on your new M2! The simplest way to get there would be a Pure stage 2 turbo, upgraded intercooler and catless downpipe (I just went with VRSF), Dorsch stage 1 or 2 hpfp, upgraded plugs and coils, and a custom tune. That should get you to mid/upper 400's and then if you run ethanol, closer to 500. This will run you around $4500ish excluding labor. The clutch will hold that power fine if you have a manual and if dct, I'd recommend an XHP trans tune also 🙂
Complimenti, auto veramente molto bella. Mi dici la marca di cerchi, vorrei metterli sulla mia BMW. Congratulations, truly very beautiful car. Can you tell me the brand of rims, I would like to put them on my BMW.
I had a built m240i 8hp and I only can say, it's a hard decision. I went for ne the m2 manual and I don't regret it. If you want to be fast in the straight and tune the car for cheap, then go for the b58. If you want something for looks and a special feeling when driving. You get Everytime a big smile when driving when driving the M2 but go for the manual if you ask me. It feels like a modern e46 m3. DCT is boring in this car.
@@Serock2k6 I’m currently bored in driving in a straight line with the b58. Don’t get me wrong, some extra mods can make it handle a lot better but after tracking it last year it made me realise it’s a lot of cash to make it good at least. Now the m2c or og is on my mind and that’s what I’m indecisive about. I want straight line but also enjoy it around the corners on a b road or track. OG makes sense but the m2c is swinging to my favour. I just need to be in an Og to experience how it feels like
@@biiz4106 I don't know the prices in your country but 1. You can never get the same driving feeling, even when you do coilovers and suspension arms. I even got stiffening brackets for the rear subframe. 2. You can calculate how much you have to pay for the front and rear subframe. Then you need a locking diff and then you still need to widen the car. I think it's cheaper to buy a m2. Go to a dealer and drive one. You won't regret it :). But when you buy the OG then do Manual!! When Comp then both are a option. In germany you pay 10-15k more for a comp. That wasn't worth for me. Ignore the seats. Both are very good.
@@Serock2k6 in the Uk in todays current car climate. We can pick up an m2c for 30k upwards and an Og for around 22k upwards which is a bargain for an m car.
I’m gonna say what will trigger all og m2 owners every time… it’s not a true M car. It’s an M235i sorta. No M SEATS and interior, No M Engine. End of discussion. Enjoy your wide body m235i though..
As a fellow “OG” M2 owner, I couldn’t agree more! Bang for buck it’s a seriously mega car ! Mines definitely a keeper !
I test drove one before I bought the m140i the m140i is faster, the handling on the m2 was better, stuck with the b58 and engine compared to the old n55 in OG m2
@@lukeskywalker1666 how much cheaper was m140i if it was?
@@YourGamingBrigade got mine about 4 years ago paid £21k for it with 30k miles auto trans, estoril blue shadow edition
How much is maintaince and do they break? Thinking of buying something around 60-90k car cuz of the price
regret selling mine so much
I’d rather buy this one
Me too, so I did.🎉😂
I have an OG LCI DTC . Had it for three years now . Pound for pound you ain’t getting a better sports car . Straight out of the box they are brilliant. Mines a keeper ❤️
Totally agree!
used mine for 5 years before selling it. Best BMW ever imo.
OG M2 for the win! The best modern M with an old-school soul.
I’ve owned an ‘03 M3, and an ‘09 M5. By far, my favorite is my ‘18 LCI M2 (6 spd man) in LBB. It’s such a hoot! It’s my therapy..
Love it. Great to hear.
2016 OG owner here. I would have liked you talked about what goes wrong on these cars. The water pump, thermostat, wheel bearings/hub assemblies, brake rotors rusting out like crazy.. there is SO much that can go wrong with these things and it sucks that channels like yours just address only the good while completely ignoring the bad and the ugly.
They are NOT cheap to fix and maintain - even for simple things like cooling system bits and pieces - and any example with around 80k miles on it will need a HEAP of work if you're buying used.
You are on lot of Videos with These comment. Whats up dude?!
@@glasblaeser93he’s trying to spread awareness. I bet he has one
Treat your car with respect.
I have a 2018 Lci, 150k km
No problems.
@@glasblaeser93he has 1 comment on this Channel 🤷🏻♂️
@@Zokmonkey I do and literally no main channel has shown how absolutely piss poor the rear hub design is when water gets trapped in there and it rusts. This leads to a serious and expensive problem.
I’m now having to replace not just the hubs and bearings, but also both wheel carrier arms, output shafts, the handbrake system, the discs, the pads, the rotors and all associated hardware. This is a $7000 job… even when I’m buying most of my stuff from FCP euro, ECS, Turner and BimmerWorld.
Coming from a M140i, moving to a M2 OG LCI was the best choice I made
I did the same but pre lci and have no regrets about it. The M lites are just not special to drive unless you spend a lot of money on them but why bother when you can get an M for probably less money by the time you have tryed to turn the 140 into something it’s not. Also the looks of the M2 you could never replicate
Im planning to buy either an m140 or m2 next year. Do you think the n55 is reliable if i dont plan to tune it and buy one with under 50k miles?
@@youngman0520n55 is pretty decent yeah. Even better on the m designation n55 in the m2. But dont take my word for it look at the forums
Please can you elaborate more about why?
@@youngman0520n55 is reliable no matter what especially the m2 variant. You’ll be fine
Manual lci OG is the one to have 💯
Bought a 2017 1 of 150 performance edition 2 months ago, couldn't be any happier. I got really lucky finding one with only 8k miles in 2024. Gonna be my baby forever
This blows away the new car for me, not in terms of performance obviously but it just has character to spare. Of the two I imagine it’s the keeper. Some properly lit sends from jack in this one, that drift day paying off already 🔥
Hahaha, the practice helped a little.
The OG is a wonderful little car.
Couldn't agree more. In the last few years I've had a lot of different sports cars (Cayman GT4, A90 Supra, Mustang Mach One, etc etc) and the N55 M2 I've had for the last few months is genuinely my favourite out of all of them, especially after going decat and remap
just bought an 2018 M2 LCI. Very happy with the vehicle.
Hey this video was AMAZING! Im about to buy one most likely a manual. And no matter what happens I will keep this car forever! Its been my dreamcar for so many years and can finally become reality
I have had my manual og lci since 2019, I don't plan on ever selling it, its the only BMW I have ever owned and its one of the best and most fun cars I have ever driven!
has it been reliable for you?
Yep never had a problem @@diegoz4081
I‘ve had a manual OG M2. I seriously think bang for the buck this is amazing. Cool wide body car, fantastic looks, wonderful sound, plenty powerful, RWD with limited slip differential and tip top suspension. Oh, and it‘s a reliable platform too. Only reason not to get it is if you‘re looking for massive power gains.
Just bought mine 3 days ago
My first real car
Had a chance to drive many cars that are much more expencive but this car is so much fun to drive
Gts style splitter, I personally would never use self tapping screws ever again. Bolts, washers and nut is the way to do it.
I agree. The new M2 made this one an instant keeper because we saw the aesthetics of BMW just go away. I saw one of these at a show over the weekend and instantly liked it so much better than the current M2.
Have the same car! 18 LCI in gray. Not getting rid of mine for anything! Beast of a car!
I have owned mine since July 2022... and what an ownership it has been. Incredible Car
F87 in all its flavors are incredible cars, all of 'em. Keeping mine forever.
Please stop making videos about the OG M2 … they’re still just a little out my budget and I’d love to buy one in the next 5 years but if you keep showing everyone how good it is the values won’t keep coming down 😂 great video mate.
I own pre lci mineral grey manual M2. I love this car mine is also lowered on Eibach and rest standard the car is awesome if you have the means go and pick one up it’s one of the best m’s out there I love it. Needs some carbon and I should pay guys autoid a visit
I beat one of them m2s thought they was meant to be fast I got m140i gapped it about 4 car lengths till oncoming traffic
you beat it on need for speed probably@@lukeskywalker1666
Just purchased a 2018 M2 DCT a few days ago - best car I’ve ever driven!
Good choice!
I bought one in the same colour and LCI last Nov and just put a VRSF sports cat on it. You can argue all you like about the S55 and it might be a better engine but the N55 with this cat and m perf exhaust is just glorious.
I can't have a splitter due to the total crap roads around where I live but I do wish I could have one.
I don't think you can go wrong with an OG M2, fantastic fun and you never get bored of looking at it
Thanks for sharing
OG M2 owner here, pre LCI, love it.
The last true M car, still quite small, still not too heavy, not stupid amounts of power just enough so that you can exploit it all on a road.
Just a raw, str8 6 front engine'd RWD sports coupe.
true M car with the same engine as a 235i? lol a new m240i is better. b58 over n55 any day of the week.
@@ibrahimelmi210 I didn't say the N55 was better than the B58 did I ?
I owned an M140i which I took from standard to 455bhp/634nm, and the B58 is a brilliant engine, the best modern BMW 6 in my opinion. No wonder it is gaining a reputation as the new 2JZ.
The N55 in the OG M2 is not the same as the M135i/M235i, because it has forged internal parts, and other improvements, and if you worked in the motor trade for as long as myself, you might know this.
I would prefer the B58 in my M2, but the N55 is still a great engine and very reliable, just not as tuneable as the B58. That doesn't matter to me, because I have a low mileage m2 which I am keeping standard.
so I take your 'lol' and I throw it back at you, and then PMSL at your lack of knowledge and then trying to 'educate' somebody on the internet who obviously knows a LOT more than you do about the subject you are trying to preach son.
im aware of the upgrades to the n55 but if it was a different engine it wouldnt be called an n55. im not arguing with you or trying to teach you anything. like you said the b58 is faster that is a fact. but I just dont agree with your opinion (subjective) that its the last true M car when the S55 and S58 M2s exist. If anything the N55 M2 is the odd one out. dont know why you took it personal. even bmw changed the m2 to have an s55. @@DjNikGnashers
@@ibrahimelmi210 Not personal at all, I felt you needed to be corrected for your lack of knowledge by stating the S55 was a better engine than the B58, that is all.
My statement was that the M2 was in my opinion, the last true M car. Not necessarily the OG M2, simply the M2 F87 of any model.
I think the new G87 has gone too far, it is a very fast, and capable car, and still RWD, but too heavy, too refined, and too 'digital'.
The F87 was still a raw and quite analogue machine.
The M4, M5 etc, are just too big and heavy to be M cars, when you consider the original M car intentions, ie to be faster, lighter, more race/track ready versions of standard models.
I don't believe any of the 2+ ton SUV's should have M car designations, it has devalued the M car name, and now is basically just a trim level.
i think you got no clue about cars. the n55b30 in the m2 is not even close to being the same as in the m135i. the only reason bmw changed the m2 to the s55 was because if emissions. in europe the n55 wasnt allowed anymore because they had to add the opf. the n55 in the m2 and the s55 are nearly the same engines. even though the s55 has nearly 50 hp and 100mn more the 0-100 100-200 times are nearly the same. the only thing that is better in the m2c is the seats and the m buttons. sound wise the n55 is miles head of the s55. thats why i bought the og one. @@ibrahimelmi210
Just bought a 2018 "OG" F87 with the M Performance Exhaust. Don't know if it drives better or sounds better but compared to an equally priced 2024 230, there was no comparison. (I did consider a miata with maybe a supercharger :)
Got it, love it, usually i change cars every 2 years. Have this one for 4 years and freaking love it!
i bought one 1 year ago
i love it !
Fantastic video sir. Totally agree.
Love my 2018 lci in lbb (with icons) 😅! Still haven't fitted the comp style mirrors i purchased from you last year but summer is coming!
100% the best car iv have owned and spirited drives in the country where I live are 👌
Dropped in value atm but I'm sure these are a future classic and will be worth a small fortune one day
Couldn't agree more, these are a future classic - make no mistake. These are the E30 M3 of this era.
I've had mine for nearly 2 years. It's insane. The only reason I would sell is if I needed 2 more doors. It gets crazy attention too and it just is an absolute beast. Best car I've ever owned. Came from a JCW.
Agree it gets a lot of attention , too much for my liking i preferred my e 46 m3 unless one knew what it was it got less attn.
I loved that Video! Thank you 🙏🏾
Glad you enjoyed it!
Had the option to get a new M2 but I’ve kept my manual OG and saved a lot of money… think I would regret the exchange and think it’s a total waste of money upgrading. Nearly £70k for a new M2, no chance! I think the OG M2 is an absolute bargain if you like driving and having abit of fun at the same time. Just a perfect amount of power and has that old school look about it. Great video 👍
Agree regarding the OG M2 is an absolute steal right now - but you can pick up the new M2 without packs for about £55-£58k in places… still too expensive.
did you put the comp seats in yourself?
Im between going M2OG or M3e92...
I a few months ago bought a stock 2018 m2 LCI 6spd manual full loaded. I chose this over the comp because i cant stand the sound of the s55 and if i did an s55 it would be a big single turbo conversion with crankhub upgrade and that alone is way to expensive before even making power. People underestimate the n55b. Mine now makes 535 whp on 93 and 675 whp on e50 with a flex fuel system. I did pure 750 turbo, HPFP and LPFP, new sparks and coils, VRSF FMIC, VRSF DP, M performance exhaust, charge pipe, inlet pipe, s55 carbon sturt and aluminum brace, tuner motorsport carbon fiber intake and a few clean up mods such as suveneer bmw gts hood and some carbon side skirts , rear diffuser and m2cs carbone fiber front lip, m4 front seats with reupholster leather and alcantara with blue stitching m2 head rest illuminated badge from bmw. Its been the most balanced car ive owned and sounds incredible and is absolutely fast. People sleep on the OG and get woke real quick. But my car is built for canyons, track (non drag), and occasional hwy fun. Someone will always be faster but does their actual driving skill out match you is the question. I will keep this car for more than a lifetime as it is very special.
Wow serious spec mate, love it!
I can only see the top part of the seat while you were driving, but I could see it was a one piece seat. Have the stock seats been replaced with m4 seats or something?
M2 Comp seats buddy.
Do you think M2 comp is an upgrade to my 1m? Owned it for 5 years and feel like i want something new...
Would keep the 1M, it’s a pre-M2 and they share the same concept and soul. Also the 1M went up a lot in value and probably more in the future.
Sometimes I have the same feeling that I want to experience something new, or to get something normal like a 430i but I would regret it so much in the long run.
@@ChrisEOfficial Yes i would also,the 1m is rare and sought after.
Fully agree, not to mention the ecological malus of 50.000€ in France for a G87, or the fact that this M2 is one of the most beautiful car BMW has ver produced in my opinion! Beautiful specimen indeed you should be proud of! (I'd keep the shiny wheels...)
Did you fit the ram air intake? Need some sound clips
4:05 exactly correct.
Yea man OG absolutely slays for the value! Mine turns so many heads! Where can I get this CS steering flash??
Coming from a E46 328i AC Snitzer now driving my M2 Competition is just not comparable...
Other than the stock seat sitting to high, its a home run.
Imo it’s far better looking than the G87!! I’m slowly starting to warm to the G80, G81 and G82 but I cannot warm to the G87!
Great video - but I have a random question. What puffer jacket is that? (outside one) :) thanks
It was never a terrible car in the first place. A good car stays a good car even if the mext one supercedes it. You can still mod the older car. I'd be happy to own any of the M2s, even the new one now that I've seen people modding them.
I have an OG M2, the ONLY thing I wish the F87 M2s had is a high transmission tunnel (to make it feel like more of a cacoon - like traditional sports coupes, which the new M2 has). Apart from that things I prefer from the LCI which I wish mine had (but all doable), the LCI rear lights, CarPlay, and the black trim instead of chrome around kidney grills and side gills. And the front seats.
But all upgradable.
Performance wise… I wouldn’t change a thing - just this Sunday I was chasing a McLaren 720 on some country lanes for a good while… more than capable of keeping up with anything on the road.
The LCI also came with chrome trim. He has changed his. I actually prefer the Pre LCI in every way.
so you wouldnt upgrade to the s55 if you could get a m2c?
No, I could get an M2C anytime I want but I prefer the N55 in this car. The car is lighter and more driveable for the street. Nobody can accuse me of bias as I also have a F80 M3 Comp.
I definitely love my 18LCI LBB with 6 speed manual
How much is the CS steering mod? Is it the entire rack?
Just flashing, speak to Defined Coding for more details.
Do you do this splitter for the Comp?
Best M Car Ever
Not a real M car sorry.
@@Funkyflykiwi you’ve never driven one
@@TimChump right, but you have driven every M car? But regardless its not a true M car.
@@Funkyflykiwi I knew it, if you did you’d realise it’s the best m car
I’ve never driven the m1 but who has
@@TimChump so you have driven all M cars? an e30, e36 3.0 and 3.2, e46, e92 f82, g80, of and the m5’s, m8 etc? Because you said best M car ever. Its simply not. The steering alone makes it not the best
The way the car market is going in my knack of the woods, the M2C and OGM2 prices are interchangeable looking at spec (Manual/DCT, Sunroof, Mileage & Year) so for the price of an OGM2 the are M2C that I can also buy at that price point. So putting aside price ,spec etc. Just your honest opinion btwen the 2 cars which car really should one buy?
We think, at the same price, the M2C is the more sensible buy. It's got a better engine and interior for the money compared direct to a stock OG M2.
However, the sound of the N55 is wonderful, so it's really down to preference.
As an ex-owner of 2 manual M235i’s at stage 1, I was never really impressed by the M2’s performance but the looks in my opinion … The F87 M2 is the most beautiful car BMW has ever made.
With all the rage about the B58’s these days , most missed the window of the magical N55 post 2014. It seems to be fading now and it had its time but was by no means any slouch.
At stage 1 I managed 330 whp with a catless downpipe twice , both did 100 - 200 in well under 10 seconds - that’s stock F87 M2 Competition times.
A pre-owned M235i/M240i is all you need, well, until you can afford the 👑 S58.
I patiently await my turn for G87 manual in white 🎉.
tbh gen 1 b58 is great but S55 is in some ways better. if the m2 had an s55 i would be very happy with it. but since it doesnt its a let down like you say. but the new gen 2 b58 is defintely on par or better than an s55 so imo the new m240xi is a better buy than an f87 for the same price
@@ibrahimelmi210 I steered very clear from the S55 because of the notorious crank hub issues pre-owned. Tbh my N55’s performance more than matched the S55 on stage 1 vs stock, I had loads of fun with them on the road and they would always be sour afterward with the results 🤓. Don’t confuse me though, if I could have afforded the ///M (fit the bill for Maintainence) I would have got one 👍🏼.
But look, it was great for what it was, if they were launched in x drive as well back then the F80/82/87 ///M’s would have also been in the 10’s easily without too much work.
With regards to the M2 not having an S55 - correct but the F87 M2 Competition did - also a great car but again not much faster in a straight line vs an M235/240i 💭
Note this is coming from me , an average petrolhead that’s been around for a while and only needs a car that gives great performance in a straight line and sometimes twisties - I don’t track or drag race my cars - rolling on the highway 🛣️ is cool 👌🏼.
Bang 💥 for buck all depends on your pocket.
Today : M235i ~ $20K
M240i ~ $30K
G 20. M340i ~ $45K
G42. M240i ~ $50K
The F series could still give you the same or better performance with not much spent on it for half the price if you’re on a budget.
Also to the younger crowd on a lower end budget wanting your first BMW i6 - don’t discount the N55 , an M235/135/335i is still a great car if you find one in good nick with full service history at a dealer etc etc. change the oil every 5000 km , change the turbo and induction piping to carbon/ aluminium and it will take care of you. A catless downpipe and good tune is all the power you need (~400HP).
But agreed 👍🏼, if it’s in your budget (also if it breaks - warranties are void with mods - the internet guys never tell you that 😩) the new B58 XDrive combos are great value for money.
The S58’s are exorbitantly expensive right now 😅, I’ll have to wait.
@@GokrinI got 2018 m140i stage 2+ with TU pump (485bhp) lowered with LSD fitted
@@lukeskywalker1666 make sure you have some Michelin’s Pilot Sports on 😏
@@Gokrin I got pilot sports 5s, lowered m4 under arms LSD, handles pretty descent got XHP3 gearbox map, thing goes like a slingshot long as it’s not wet
I’m 25 and growing up my neighbor had a E46 M3 & a 135i and that’s what made me a car guy and specifically a BMW guy. I hope that in the next 5 years (that long only bcuz i need it to be a financially responsible moment) I can buy a LCI OG M2 and I swear I will own it for the rest of my life. The perfect daily sports car and last successor to the e46 and 1M.
M140i is faster
Lovely spec guys 👌🏻
Are they rear wheel drive or 4 wheel
The M2 is rear wheel drive, f87 m2.
Eyeing one currently
Have a DCT OG LCI. Driven M3/4s and other quick stuff from E46 onwards. F87 OG LCI is a real sweet spot. For the money I dont think you can touch it. I'd like an M4 CS or cayman GT4 at some point but whole different bracket
Totally agree. It sits in the market in its own space. Perhaps the best value performance car on the market.
I’ve come to appreciate the brutish new design (hated it at first) but maaaan these F series M2’s are so damn clean 🧼
I chose the M2 OG LCI (2018) over the Competition model for a straightforward reason: the OG embodied BMW's intended vision for the M2 in terms of its driving dynamics and overall experience, while the Competition felt more like an afterthought (a detuned M4). This might explain BMW's decision to facelift the original M2. Also, it's noteworthy that BMW had to replace the N55 engine with the S55 in the M2 to comply with the then-new emission standards. Although I've sold my M2, when it's time to purchase another, I'll still opt for the OG M2, possibly a CS model due to its exclusivity and raw character.
M2 comp with the s55 is in a different league in performance compare to the n55 m2
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh Not when it's stock. I'm reluctant to talk about drag times when it comes to M cars, but let's make a brief analysis based on my verified findings on 'Ze Perfs': In the 1/4 mile, the M2 DCT OG clocks in at 12.7 seconds, whereas the M2 DCT Comp is slightly quicker at 12.5 seconds. Over 1 kilometer, the M2 OG records a time of 23.1 seconds, against the M2 Comp's 22.7 seconds. Personally, I don't think a 0.2 second difference in the 1/4 mile and a 0.4 second difference over a KILOMETER puts them in different leagues. In stock form, the OG's peaky low-down torque is what convinced me, the stock Comp felt too linear. Personally, I've never felt the need for more power so modding it was never an option especially since the car was still under warranty. Besides, it's worth noting that the suspension components in the OG LCI are identical to those in the Comp model, perhaps minor differences like the steering rack, carbon fibre strut brace, etc. They both share the same DCT box and M diff.
@@kratos9223 Just to add to this I have an F80 M3 Comp and a F87 M2. The N55 is better for street driving as the turbos come on wayyyy earlier. Love the top end of the S55 though. I get the best of both worlds.
g42 m240xi blows the n55 m2 out of the water for the same price. gen 2 b58 is just better than any n55. and you can turn off the awd and have fun with it.
@@ibrahimelmi210 the previous gen f87 m240i also has superior performance than the n55 m2 and more tuning potential
rod bearings failure is the answer
Yeah less issues. I’d still buy B58 m340 over it tho for long run
Best BMW by car. Great video
Couldn't agree more!
Its "whatever car the u want" time
Could not agree more!
This with the s58 engine would be great
facts.
No, then it would sound like shit.
Im gonna get a GTS hood for my LCI
This is the only M2 you should buy if you plan to keep it stock. If cost isn't a concern, consider getting an F87 CS instead. The S55 engine, while sharing common issues with the N55, such as leaky valve cover gaskets, also has additional problems. These include leaky turbos, crank hub, and charge cooler issues.
Those issues are not common in the S55. The crankhub blows up in a single digit % of cars. If the issue was over 10% than I’m pretty sure BMW would have made a recall.
CS is Porsche money. Also, the S55 comes in the M2 comp, which is nowhere near Porsche money.
Pre LCI Mineral Grey checking in 🫡
I have a manual og m2 I’m saving up for a g87 but will never sell the og
yes, because its way better looking than the new ones
People would keep saying more power but can't even slide the car around corners properly. Why do you need more power when you don't even have good hands.
Just the looks make it worth it.
I love my OG 😁 she pulls hard to redline with the upgraded Pure turbo!
Hey, which Pure Turbo do you have installed? The 500?
@eldogo1 I'm running the PS2. If I were to do it again, I'd probably go with the Pure 750. It came out about 2 months after I had already installed the stage 2, haha.
@@micraw714hey bro I always see you commenting on the m2 videos and I recently picked up my og lci m2 and I was wondering for the future how much it would cost to get to high 400s, low 500s hp?
@ryan2k814 hey congrats on your new M2! The simplest way to get there would be a Pure stage 2 turbo, upgraded intercooler and catless downpipe (I just went with VRSF), Dorsch stage 1 or 2 hpfp, upgraded plugs and coils, and a custom tune. That should get you to mid/upper 400's and then if you run ethanol, closer to 500. This will run you around $4500ish excluding labor. The clutch will hold that power fine if you have a manual and if dct, I'd recommend an XHP trans tune also 🙂
@@micraw714 thanks man, appreciate it a lot!
Complimenti, auto veramente molto bella. Mi dici la marca di cerchi, vorrei metterli sulla mia BMW.
Congratulations, truly very beautiful car. Can you tell me the brand of rims, I would like to put them on my BMW.
Thank you, they are from a British company named westforged, pop us a message as we sell them.
Can you send me the email address of this company where you purchased your alloy wheels? Bye thank you.
Brilliant motor
Can’t decide between the F87 LCI M2 OG or the F82 M4 C
either get an m2 comp with the s55 or the m4. OG m2 with an n55 is not worth it imo over a new m240xi with gen 2 b58
@@ibrahimelmi210Another moron who buys BMWs to drag race. No 240i is worth it over this car period.
@@ibrahimelmi210No 🤡🤡 M240i is a an awd slushbox pig of a car.
I want to buy one so bad!
Why does everyone finance cars ? i hate debt, if I can’t buy it outright I don’t want it till I can afford it
Is it debt?
I currently own a b58 and I'm still indecisive if I want the OG Or M2C.
I had a built m240i 8hp and I only can say, it's a hard decision. I went for ne the m2 manual and I don't regret it.
If you want to be fast in the straight and tune the car for cheap, then go for the b58.
If you want something for looks and a special feeling when driving. You get Everytime a big smile when driving when driving the M2 but go for the manual if you ask me. It feels like a modern e46 m3. DCT is boring in this car.
@@Serock2k6 I’m currently bored in driving in a straight line with the b58. Don’t get me wrong, some extra mods can make it handle a lot better but after tracking it last year it made me realise it’s a lot of cash to make it good at least.
Now the m2c or og is on my mind and that’s what I’m indecisive about. I want straight line but also enjoy it around the corners on a b road or track. OG makes sense but the m2c is swinging to my favour.
I just need to be in an Og to experience how it feels like
@@biiz4106 I don't know the prices in your country but 1. You can never get the same driving feeling, even when you do coilovers and suspension arms. I even got stiffening brackets for the rear subframe.
2. You can calculate how much you have to pay for the front and rear subframe. Then you need a locking diff and then you still need to widen the car.
I think it's cheaper to buy a m2.
Go to a dealer and drive one. You won't regret it :). But when you buy the OG then do Manual!! When Comp then both are a option. In germany you pay 10-15k more for a comp. That wasn't worth for me.
Ignore the seats. Both are very good.
@@Serock2k6 in the Uk in todays current car climate. We can pick up an m2c for 30k upwards and an Og for around 22k upwards which is a bargain for an m car.
@@biiz4106 how much can you sell your b58 ?
M4 F82💣💥
spoiler : yes
I love the OG M2, but I don’t love the engine. The engine is the only reason why I haven’t bought one.
If there isn't S55 than N55 wil b prefer in F87.....
Old m2 is a lot more better looking out the box
I feel the same,i own one since last fall.
I need one 😭
Yess lads
Lads do not buy the OG M2, or the M2 Comp, if you already have one you might as well give it to me for free
the current g87 looks confused asf
Those wheels are gash
rather have the old one over the new the new one looks disgusting
Silly question really.
Freaking 5 mins in the vid so you can start taking about the actual topic. Why do people do this??
It's slow in comparison to the Comp, the CS, and the G87. No thanks.
They’re all slow lol 400 hp, even 450 is a joke nowadays. Go buy a mustang like other low IQ types
Nope...only M2 worth buying is the CS
At double the price? Yeah no
goddamn looks so outdated compared to the new one. but yea still like it
contemporary old school, the thing i like.
No, it's shit.
I’m gonna say what will trigger all og m2 owners every time… it’s not a true M car. It’s an M235i sorta. No M SEATS and interior, No M Engine. End of discussion. Enjoy your wide body m235i though..
Haha everyone who drives one will enjoy for sure.
You enjoy your Fiat or whatever you drive 😀
lol m seat😂😂 this guy never understand what changed in the engine and handling
Someone sounds broke and bitter
Even a M235 with MHD is a great car😉
WBS vin, widebody, M-dct, M-lsd. More of an M car than whatever your dad leases.