A Station in Two Counties at Once
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- A station that is in two counties! Dean! In both Hampshire and Wiltshire.
Also, things go slightly wrong with a signalling fault.
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Until the platforms were moved, Sawbridgeworth station used to have one platform in Essex and one platform in Hertfordshire.
were they staggered originally?
@@SprinterPlayzYes, they were originally staggered either side of the level crossing.
@@dave771 what county is it in now
@@SprinterPlayzHertfordshire
Those SWR 158's are just the best.
Properly padded comfy seats, 2+2 seating, perfecto!
I used to work near Blackwater station many years ago. That station is entirely within Hampshire, but only just. If you walk to the Tesco just across the road from the station, you cross two county borders, briefly into a corner of Surrey, then the Tesco is in Berkshire.
Weirdly Mottisfont and Dunbridge, Dean and Romsey were managed by GWR until post Covid.
Dean Station is located in the village of West Dean. Most of the village is split in half by the Hampshire-Wiltshire border. E.g. The old pub and the river. So the train station is one of many things split across the border. Very cool. I would have never guessed that Dean station would be looked at as it's such a small station. Thanks for showing it, even for only a minute.
It wouldn't be the UK railway without something going wrong lol
Suggestion for a point to point: Newcastle upon Tyne to Newcastle under Lyme
That factoid about Dean is a fabulous one.
Dean is still not as interesting as Euroairport Basel/Muhouse/Freiburg (yes, that’s the actual name of the airport). It has TWO IATA codes (BSL/MLH), a split terminal (half in France, half in Switzerland), and split access roads (some lead only into Switzerland, others only into France), and depending upon where you fly into the airport from, you either exit through Swiss border controls, or through French border controls.
Seems like an overly complicated location for an airport. Bet the commuters hate the airport planners guts!
Roding Valley station on the Hainault loop of the Central line - one platform and exit are in Greater London and the other platform and exit are in Essex.
Gold Coast Airport in Australia is in two different states, the terminal and runways are in both Queensland and New South Wales. Only NSW uses daylight savings time so the airport is in two different time zones at the moment
I think Fishersgate might straddle East and West Sussex, or at least the entrance is in one county and the platforms in the other
It does indeed
Another interesting one is Blackwater, The station itself being in just Hampshire. However, the short station approach road that leads into the car park has sections in Hampshire, Surrey and Berkshire meaning you have to cross 3 counties in order to get from the main road to the station entrance.
Trains also cross straight into Berkshire as they leave the station in the direction of Reading, and cross straight into Surrey in the direction of Guildford/Gatwick.
The station approach road is only 172 metres long by the way, yet spans three county borders.
Gonna have to question the "cross straight into Surrey" thing - unless google maps is lying, they don't do that until just before North Camp.
@@randomguy-tg7ok Google maps isn’t pinpoint accurate but it’s near enough, The small jut out that is displayed on Google near the bottom half of admiralty way does officially cross to the other side of the railway even if only for a few metres (and in railway terms, a couple of seconds) that google neglects to show, so that statement is technically true albeit a bit clickbaity.
The borders around the station itself however are easily viewable on google as the borders tend to be far more accurate when roads are involved.
Super interesting!
Ik its London, but Tooting (TL)s platforms are in Merton, but the entrance building is in Wandsworth!
Wonder what Wolfie Smith made of that when he stood as Tooting Popular Front candidate.
Nice vid. I also have suggestions for Pointless Journeys and Point to Point: St Albans City to St Albans Abbey and Charing Cross (London) to Charing Cross (Glasgow). (Bonus points if you only use National Rail for both routes.) And sticking with the vid, you might as well do Redbridge Tube station to the Redbridge station mentioned in the video. Happy Wednesday!
Charing Cross (London) to Charing Cross (Glasgow)
Southeastern CHX- London Bridge
TL London Bridge to KGX
walk to Euston then Avanti to Glasgow Central
then Scotrail to Partick and back to Charing Cross
@@GabrielsReviews My preferred route for the sake of challenge from London Bridge onwards would be:
Southern London Bridge - WFJ changing at Selhurst
LNR WFJ to Bedford changing at Bletchley
EMR Bedford to Derby/Sheffield changing at Kettering (and between Loughborough and EMD)
XC Derby/Sheffield to Edinburgh direct or TPE/Northern Sheffield only to Doncaster/York
LNER Doncaster/York to Edinburgh or TPE York only to Edinburgh
Scotrail Edinburgh to Charing Cross (Glasgow) directly only
@@8r1tK1Dtia Fair enough. I suppose that's another way of doing it .
Earlswood station is in two counties too!! The station entrance and the north side of the platforms are in the West Midlands, but the south side is in Warwickshire
Another interesting video Nick!
As a northerner living in Dorset I'm really enjoying this little series. 👍
Interesting little fact about Templecombe. At one time you could change onto the Somerset and Dorset line there (Bournemouth to Bath) 🙂
Going a bit further afield, the station at Brenner is in both Austria and Italy. I went by train from Innsbruck and was able to say I had been to Italy for 45 minutes whilst awaiting the train back down the valley.
I wonder why that GWR train stopped, they're not ever scheduled to stop there anymore
I think youll find Fishersgate is half in West Sussex and half in Brighton and Hove (East Sussex)
The original platform was probably short enough to be entirely in Wiltshire.
Brilliant video Nick, A station in 2 different counties? That's so cool. It's an exciting day on the rails when things go wrong isn't it?
The loop service goes through to Eastleigh, Chandlers Ford and Romsey, it doesn't go back to Salisbury
I think the craziest one is in Malvern, a reasonably sized town weird town (technically) that has two train stations, Great Malvern and Malvern link stations!
An even more interesting station i think is Hither Green, one of my locals, as it's station entrance sits diagonally on the prime meridian line.
You should do Sawbridgeworth which is in Essex. But it’s right on the border with Hertfordshire. And perhaps go to other railway stations that are on the county border.
Knighton station on the Heart of Wales line, is actually right next to the English /Welsh border Knighton(the town) is in Powys Wales, but its station in Shropshire England.
Great video as always Nick! Interesting and original idea!
6:42, not quite, the next stop after Chandlers ford is indeed Romsey, but trains terminate there, probably because there isn't demand for more services into Salsibury, particularly when GWR stopping at Romsey is taken into account. It's just a destination that an average commuter in that area doesn't need to know about, when the train already calls at Romsey. To be fair, this a case relatively similar to the London Circle line, where it starts on a branch line, reaches a certain point, then loops back around and back to that point to terminate.
My grandparents in Kent, where they live their town and the town/😮village that borders it are so close that all you have to do is go around the corner and you’re in the other town/village and could be mistaken as being the same place to people that don’t know the area.
Anyways, they were living in a house before I was born where half was in the town and half was in the other town/village and they had to pay two council taxes… They soon moved 😂
There is a cul de sac in Dartford Kent, that of course by being a cul de sac can only be entered /exited by one other road, that road is in Greater London (London borough of Bexley) As the GLC/Kent boundary runs across the cul de sac, just after you enter it, it is cut of from the rest of Kent, only being accesible by crossing into Greater London first.
Another interesting fact for Dean and Mottisfont & Dunbridge is that GWR/FGW managed the stations for about 8/9 years when no GWR services served them. SWR started managing the stations in 2020.
If you go down south anytime soon, maybe try do a Pointless Journey from Dorking to Dorking Deepdene, and as you are up north now, maybe New Mills Central to New Mills Newtown?
I wonder if the GWR service did an additional stop.
The old Woodhead Station was a similar cross border location, part in Cheshire, and part in Lancashire.
The Salisbury 6 Loop is my local line and use it pretty much daily for work and leisure.
SWT/SWR often ran the services to these stations, so in April 2020 the 3 stations (Monttisfont & Dunbridge, Dean and Romsey) were absorbed into the SWR station family. GWR rarely ran services to Monttisfont & Dunbridge and Dean due to the long distance and often delayed Cardiff to Portsmouth service would skip these stations.
A lot of the refurbishment interior and some exterior of the 158/159s were put on hold due to COVID and with the franchise agreement just around and corner and not knowing if it was to be extended, this was also another reason. SWR contract expires next year so I doubt we'll see any more work done in the way of rebranding until they know if they've won it.
As and when you get an SWR Spouse/Partner travel card, there are so many amazing local lines to explore, some of which you've done. Finish the Salisbury 6 loop, Southampton to Portsmouth stopper, Lymington Branch Line and the Island Line, which has lots of walking/cycle tracks along the disused lines and station buildings.
The good old Bluestar 36 was quite a rare route and one of the disused routes on the whole Bluestar network sadly got withdrawn around this time last year due to cuts by Hampshire County Council along with the 39 also operated by Bluestar
Roding Valley is another example
Ah, d'Artagnan, it happens to us all at times. Good how you kept your cool and showed us a few villages to boot. Well done keep up the good work.
Has anyone told Jen that SWR are experts in how to pull a TPE 😅
Pointless journey idea: Runcorn to Runcorn east
5:15 Ah, the Mill Arms in Dunbridge - fun fact, former US president Jimmy Carter once stayed there whilst on a fly fishing trip on the River Test.
nice video, Nick! :)
£1000 fine for not closing the gate! Ouch!
We love Tisbury and. Gillingham stations and Salisbury
I think you’ve run into the main issue with the Salisbury to Exeter line. More trains are running than the single track sections can support. Any delay there compounds for the full day and is only resolved overnight
Thank you for sharing Nick.
Another good one, but you could have done S&D history in Templecombe, and some more background on the lines around Salisbury, Andover and Whitchurch. Still, what's gone is gone and it's probably not coming back ... Except that Chandler's Ford did come back from the dead.
Thx for going to S’TON central
Wylam is in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland
Great video as always👍
Thanks Nick for another entertaining video.
What about Shoreham (Kent) to Shoreham-by-sea (West Sussex)?
you could do Redbridge (SWR) to Redbridge (Underground)
Its interesting to see that one station can be in two different counties 😊
Wonder if Dean station gets 2 council tax bills? Dumb that there is only a single track between Salisbury and Exeter - damn you Beeching!
Great video! Southampton!!! Something very local to me
On a related note, for a while the automated announcements on the lines out of Charing Cross pronounced Gillingham in the Dorsetshire mode, a regular source of facepalm \m/
Great video!
Does anyone know why all the SWR trains have changed their announcer from Celia Drummond? It was an unpleasant surprise when I boarded a train and wasn't greeted with the usual voice!
Nice video mate
At least you did get a thumbnail for this kind of random video 🤔
Great video 👍
As far as I can recall Dean, Moffisfont & Dunbridge and maybe Romsey were never Network South East painted stations and were part of Regional Railways as the Cardiff - Portsmouth Harbour service was the main train through.
technically farringdon EL is in 2 counties too😄
I am curious about something Nick! It appears that in most of your videos you are sat backwards! Any reason for that as I hate sitting backwards lol!
Hi I got a point to point Suggestion maybe you could do Dorchester -Portchester
Did he have a Salisbury steak? 🤔
Please do Maidstone west to Maidstone east pointless journey
Genuine question: what's the difference between South West Trains and South Western Railway? Which is the one that serves Waterloo, or do they both?
South West Trains was the TOC that came before South Western Railway :)
i really want to be just like nick
calm interesting etc
I read the title as Countries! So having realised you meant counties, i am now curious if there are any train stations straddling two countries anywhere. Would have to be open borders so either Schengen or the UK Common Travel Area.
Chiasso and Bayerisch Eisenstein come to mind \m/
Point to point chelford to shelford
wonder if there are stations that go across countries' borders and not just there to check passports etal?
Kinda clickbait but not really, good video as always❤
Lower Sydenham. Half in Bromley (and therefore has a kent postal address) and half in Lewisham (with a london postcode)
But they're both in Greater London! Postal addresses don't have anything to do with it; in fact, the Royal Mail stopped using counties in the 1990s due to the confusion
Lower Sydenham is actually completely in SE26, which stretches out to include Kangley Bridge Road, making it London by postcode. Grove Park station however is in both London and Kent by postcode as it borders SE12 and BR1.
@@nathanw9770 postcodes are just an administrative thing for the Royal Mail, they don't dictate what county a location is in. BR1 is in London. The Royal Mail's boundaries don't match up with other boundaries
On the 2nd of march at 17.30 there is a railtour at Winchester can u go see it there please nick
Interesting to note on the topic of county lines that because of the route of the train line Burnham (bucks) is actually located just south of the county border in Berkshire even tho the village of Burnham is in Buckinghamshire
I love your content your the best can you do shenfield to Sheffield but you should go to Billericay before that
I think Knighton station is in two countRies. If it isn't it must be the only English station with full bilingual English/Cymraeg signage.
It is just in England by a few meters, the actual town of Knighton being in Wales.
If you found Dean exciting then Bayerisch Eisenstein is gonna blow your mind! (PS Hope you claimed your Delay Repay.)
I am pleased to see you experienced some of the chaos the Exeter line throws up and why the line needs dualling west of Salisbury
TMC is my local, the platform on the other side exists because before the beeching cuts there used to be a line that went up to Castle Cary and down to Bournemouth, that's now dead and gone unfortunately.
The northbound line from TMC went up through Evercreech Jnc, Radstock and on to Bath Green Park and was the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway. Castle Cary (north/south) is on the Weymouth to Westbury and on to Bristol/Swindon line. This passes under the Salisbury to Exeter line just east of Yeovil and was ex GWR. There is a connecting line from Yeovil Jnc down to Yeovil Pen Mill which is the station on the ex GWR line.
Knockholt station is in Greater London (London Borough of Bromley) and The Sevenoaks District of Kent
I thought it read 'two countRies at once', meaning for example, a station located in both England and Wales.
do you love sitting backwards or something
The present Templecombe station dates only from 1985. The other platform that belonged to the original one, also had platforms on the Somerset & Dorset Railway, which intersected the LSWR line this point - I think at a lower level. It would have been interesting to see whether any trace of this remained; but you weren't to know as it all happened a rather long time before you were born! By the way, the station of the Welsh town of Knighton is actually in England...!!
If dean is both in Hampshire and Wiltshire its also in two different regions Wiltshire is in the south west region of England and Hampshire is in the south east region. I don't think theres any other station in Britain that is in two regions
Have you thought how long it would take to visit every Central station in the UK.Now that could be an epic journey.
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Southampton my stomping ground
20 + mins late=swt delay repay as it's a signal issue
Great video, love these adventures!
Are there any stations that are in 2 countries at once?
I didn't knew that Dean Station was on the border with the county of Wiltshire and Hampshire. Shame about the signalling issue but it happens. Great video
What about dean and sage station?
@@londonoliverground Dean and sage?
Ilkeston station is in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire
the border in this area is the River Erewash. Ilkeston Station is wholly in Nottinghamshire and the town is in Derbyshire
@@rockerjim8045 actually one of the exits is in Derbyshire because I
GPS the site .
The border of the river has been moved a few times in certain places
Wether by the railway or mining or
Canal excavations.
Try doing Toton sidings
Yoker station entrance is in the Glasgow City boundary but the platforms are in Dunbartonshire.
Class 158 action, always to be enjoyed, great fact about Dean
Really good to see my local area and stations in videos. Keep up the good work!