PSVR2 PC Adapter Is Here! BUT There's A Catch
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- PSVR2 PC Adapter Is Here! BUT…There's a Catch Here's all the info on the PCVR PSVR2 adapter plus here is the original blog post link: blog.playstati...
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My disappointment is from a larger picture perspective. It’s great if you have PSVR2 and a gaming PC, you can now use PCVR. What I wanted personally was more people to buy a new PSVR2 for PCVR and then maybe even buy a PS5 since they have a PSVR2. I want it to be successful and that means SALES and today’s announcement meant I can’t see that happening now. I hope I’m wrong and suddenly everything is hunky dory in the morning 😊
New leadership at Sony. We are still dealing with Jim Ryan and Shuhei Yoshida era. I hope Herman Hulst and Hiroki Totoki can turn things around.
Quest 3 is PSVR's main competitor in PCVR at this price point. Quest 3 doesn't have HDR, haptic feedback, eye tracking, or OLED display. So, PSVR2 users are not missing out on anything.
@bigfloppaz8394 yeah but it has pancake lenses better build quality way sharper image with no mura effect and does standalone and pcvr and is way better supported.
@@ZerocoolsPropsandCollectibles PSVR 2 on PC will be connected via display port. No compression or possible artifacts where you need a real powerful PC to run Quest 3 to get the best image quality out of it via USB. I hear people complain about the image quality due to compression that is streamed to the device. PS VR 2 PC will act like a native PC VR headset. And being a native VR headset would mean more resources goes to game performance instead of streaming compression codecs.
@@greattantrum523understand but I’ll wait till I see the results of the panel before getting excited. Currently the HMD hardware points to Quest 3 still being better and of better value to a consumer overall which I can’t see anyone arguing with unless they are fanboy but I’m happy to be wrong and looking forward to testing
Honestly the missing features aren't exactly in PCVR gaming to begin with in the first place, yes some headsets use eye tracking but the overwhelmingly vast majority of VR games don't. The same goes with HDR and headset force feedback, there just arent any games that use it but once PSVR2 is available on PC I'd expect some clever people to work their magic and hack and mod everything. I have supreme confidence in this.
Agreed
I do too, but the average consumer shouldn't buy products for something they expect in the future
If the PSVR2’s inability to employ its best features is just a software thing, then I will bet the farm without batting an eye that the XR community will “correct” this in short order.
Of course it's just a software thing, it all comes down to games supporting it. The only thing I will miss is eye tracking anyways, and I bet it's coming in the future. It's way better than having to buy two VR headsets.
I recon you are right
Yes you are very right its all just a software issue, and I'm sure not only PC developers will add the PSVR2 advanced features over time, there will be a host of mods that will add to all this as well, the only catch is how fast you can get one delivered on Aug 7.
honestly I wouldnt be shocked if valve themselves fixed it
Devs won’t do it and why should they??
The dual sense stuff and headset rumble stuff makes sense cause the stuff would need to be coded into the game only pc games that use the dual sense features are Sony pc ports
If you own a quest 3, there is literally no reason to spend the extra £50 🥴
The Q3 resolution is actually higher than the psvr2's and since HDR is not enabled on pc there are literally no benefits over Quest 😬
Massive blow not having any of the PSVR2's best features available. You may as well buy a Quest 2 or 3s and save a buttload of money for a (I'm willing to bet) very identical experience. 🤦
There's a big reason. This will not have compression like the Quest has.
@TravelwithJohnnys how?
@@TravelwithJohnnys Not enough, when all other features are missing.
@@TravelwithJohnnys You're correct. But with the modern wireless VR these days, I'd be amazed if even 1% of the population of VR players could correctly differentiate between wireless hard lined in. The benefits of being wired aren't as substantial as they used to be. The OLED screens and the comfort, light weight, of course there are benefits. But I feel so F'd off that Sony built this awesome headset and have turned off half of the features and then charged you extra money to use it on PC.
Feels like a massive middle finger tbh.
I am being dramatic, but Sony make me wanna run into a wall atm. 🤦
@@TravelwithJohnnys But the massive trade off for that is you have to be wired. If you have the hardware to use the AV1 - 10 bit Codec on Virtual desktop the experience between wired and wireless isn't even that noticeable tbh.
Hopefully eye tracking can come in later with an update
Let's hope that later it happens officially or that someone makes it happen.
Be nice
Would that even be possible though? I think it would be down to individual game developer's to allow PSVR2 features in their games. Which would probably mean a decent amount of work on their end unfortunately.
Playstation has some nerves showing us hl alyx working with psvr2 seeing as they didn't bother porting the game on ps5.
@@stefandinu6389 that’s on valve not them
It's still the cheapest OLED PCVR headset even without the features. The true test will be the Pepsi challenge: Myself and many other want to see the side by side PCVR comparison. Will the OLED and non-compression artifacts make this the headset with better visuals than Quest 3?
It is now, but the Quest 1 was oled and cost $399 before there was a PSVR2. I actually played through half life Alyx on it!
I was upset at the missing features at first but then I realized all these things:
- No PCVR games have haptic headset rumble.
- Vast majority of PCVR games don't support eye tracked foveated rendering (Sony says it still SUPPORTS REGULAR FOVEATED RENDREING).
- Do people expect devs are gonna waste $$ to patch the 1,000s of PCVR games to support controller haptics and adaptive trigger features for the dozens of PC PSVR2 users when they don't even bother adding trigger support or haptic feedback for Dualsense (over 30 million controllers sold) in 90% of flat PC games? (and btw haptic feedback on Dualsense still requires USB cable to work on PC! Bluetooth adaptive trigger support is still new and less than 10 games support it on PC)
- Controllers still have regular rumble support
- No HDR is the only only issue here in my opinion. I'm not sure if it's the adapter's limitation or if it can be added unofficially later on.
So I will buy it for my RTX 3070 PC. It looks like it'll be an upgrade over my Quest 1 so I have nothing to lose, except $60.
exactly. And with a higher tier graphics card, you can max out the displays anyway...
What's the difference between haptics and rumble
@@meircyn12plop and bang
@@meircyn12 the trigger buttons provide a force feedback when pushed (adaptive triggers)
Then there is a rumble motor in the head strap which just rumbles (I guess at the same time when the controllers rumble)
@@meircyn12 Haptics is a soft detailed vibration made from audio from the game pumped into the controller. Think of loud bass noises in the game when you shoot a weapon except they're transformed into vibrations you feel in your hand. It's the feeling of phone vibration, Nintendo Switch uses it as well. Standard rumble is the same big vibration rumble motor you had in PS1- PS4 era that doesn't use sound for it's source, this type of rumble is less precise and detailed than what Haptics offer. Now when you play PSVR2 on PC, the game will send the "basic rumble" signal programed from the game and the haptic controller will vibrate. But it will not feel as good because it will use the small haptic vibration motors and the signal was designed for a big rumble motor. so it's a compromise. It's the same as Dualsense on PC, games that are not programmed for haptic support will just send a basic rumble signal and the vibrations feel tiny and weak. Still better than nothing.
Even without those features its great news for PSVR users who want to do PCVR.
This is my situation and I couldn’t be happier about this becoming reality
@@adams.4105same for me. Always wanted to play VRChaT in actual VR
Its going to be nice to use a headset that has a real display port without quest compression. cant wait to se HL Alyx in it.
@@adams.4105same
This is me, I was hesitated to buy quest 3 because of bad compression on their link. The fact you you feed video directly from your GPU with no awful compression, is the major selling point (and the fact I have PSVR2 already).
PSVR2 as a native SteamVR headset, wow!
If we are able to bypass SteamVR and use openXR directly it shouldn't take long before we can use Eytracking FOV rendering I hope.
As someone who's only played VR on PSVR2, I'd love to see a video of what games I should now be picking up on PC.
Half Life Alyx, Contractors and Contractors Showdown, Half Life 2 VR mod, Vertigo Remastered. There's a couple to start with 😁
Elite Dangerous, AMS2, Legend of Dungeon (beta mode) , Alyx, HL2 VR Mod, Amid Evil, Dirt Rally 2, Skyrim VR, Solus Project, Raw Data, Into the Radius, BallisticNG.
And hundreds more , even thousands
The Forest, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Hellblade, Subnautica, Lone Echo, The Climb, Green Hell PC, Elden Ring with Luke Ross‘ vr mod ….
The Lab, Blarp!, and Chroma Lab.
Very respectfully disagree about the optical stack comparison! Everyone's face/eyes are different of course, but I personally get a better optical experience in PSVR2 than in Quest3 because I can get my eyes closer to the PSVR2 lenses and I don't see any gaps in the stereo overlap. If Quest3 had a native DisplayPort option I think they would be fierce contenders, but for me the PC VR is going to be on PSVR2 from now on.
Ill wait and try try before I give judgment, But I agree about native display port. And I do find PSVR2 so much more vibrant than Quest.
Totally opposite for me. The mura alone in psvr2 was something I couldn't get past.
@@ZerocoolsPropsandCollectibles the mura is for sure a huge bummer. If there were a panel mod where you could upgrade the PSVR2 panels for no benefit other than to reduce mura, I would attempt it
@@ZerocoolsPropsandCollectibles Its amazing how it effects people differently. I can see it if I really try. But playing a game I don't really notice it
@linzkirk sadly people will have to roll the dice that haven't owned a psvr2 already.
Sony made the right move. I was going to get a Q3 because my sim racing is increasing but now.... I can just stick with the PSvr2. Absolute win!
"We don't want to invest into creating new memorable games and experiences for hardware we sold to playstation customers, so instead we will pawn off lacklustre and half-baked support to pcvr with a multitude of missing features so we can sell our remaining stock and wash our hands of the situation. Also, give us another $60 for the pleasure." - Sony
But the psvr2 library is pretty badass...
@@SomethingGamecatAdjacentno Arkham shadow tho🤣
The missing features for PC steam VR is I believe based upon there is no software available that can take advantage of the big features of the PS VR2. I am not surprised. I knew that the PS VR2 will at best function as a generic PC VR headset. Who is this for? If PS VR 2 is your only headset and you got a capable PC this is still good news. What is still being offered is the high resolution OLED displays at a price no other PC VR headset can match. Otherwise, you're stuck with getting an LCD based PC VR device. If you already own a Quest 2/3 or other PC VR headset then this might not be for you. Update: Forgot to mention the fact that the PS VR 2 on PC will need a 1.4 display cable which means 'no compression' on image quality, giving you the best image available. You won't have to worry about image quality unlike other headsets that use other methods to connect to PC. Thus, operating as a direct native connected VR device.
They can keep the adaptive triggers and headset haptics and eye tracking all all that crap. the oled screens and the 4K visuals are more than enough to make this a great option for people looking for a PCVR headset. Looking forward to trying it!
I am totally happy 😊
Let’s be honest. It’s doa. Lower res than quest 3. Fresnel lenses. Mura. Yet at a similar price to quest 3. Enough said.
@@robertpetrie2536 no image compression oled screens, and way lighter. There are going to be pluses and minuses for both. I hate the quest headsets. I’m know I’m not alone there. Competition and other options are always welcome.
@@drgregvr3368 oled is overrated considering hdr and other features of psvr2 are not available on pc. It’s great for people who already have a psvr2 but no quest 3 but those are few and far between. People can just buy a pimax crystal light for a better experience if they want the cord. I’m wireless all the way. I have AVP as my pcvr headset.
I’m sure the community will come out with SteamVR addons to add back the haptics, trigger support, etc. Maybe specific mods (Like a one for HLA for example) could sync in game events like camera rumble, shooting a gun, picking things up, and more to the PSVR 2’s hardware (Headset motor, the adaptive triggers, etc). Either way I’m looking forward to trying it out!
I give it a few weeks after release , and we will see beta drivers
@@TheAcadianGuy Sony did the same thing when the DualSense controller came out on PC. Wireless haptics and triggers got added in a later update.
Why are you sure, when you are totally clueless as to how any of that works??
@@drmikehuntphd7905 because, its inevitable with a community who can make good drivers. Also Im pretty sure you also don't know how any of it works anyways.
@@Atlas_966 I know you 100% don't.
Why didn't they announce this in their recent State of Play which was advertised to be VR2 related?
Because this is an act of desperation them trying to make anything back they can from the psvr2.
@@ZerocoolsPropsandCollectibles If this were an act of desperation (which it probably is, I agree with you) than they would've announced it at the state of play
Here in Sweden a used psvr2 headsets cost half the price they did as new. A lot of bang for the buck if you ask me.
How can anyone try to turn this into a negative??? Wtf? Sony just added pc support. If you enjoy the quest 3 better, than purchase that. If you like the psvr2 better, go with that. It will all depend on what you already own or what your preferences are. Anyone that thought the psvr2, built for ps5, would have haptics and foveated eye tracking on pc, set themselves up for disappointment. Adjust your expectations. Its a good day for all VR, and that's all that shoud matter to anyone.
Personally looking forward to trying it but the negative for me is now this won’t encourage new owners. Sure us previous owners will get it and try it but the real win was new folk grabbing the headset for PCVR. In time they may even buy a PS5 or even already have one. Thats the win win. This is still ok news but it’s not good news. The PSVR2 without those features is an average headset. They won’t sell more units like this.
@@GAMERTAGVRStill it is the pcvr headset everybody kept asking for: OLED with current gen resolution and DisplayPort at an affordable price. Only major flaw is the mura imho.
@@GovernorHS OLED is not end all and be all for VR. It has pretty bad pixel smear persistence which you can't unsee.
@@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA Yes, I have two headsets with lcd and they are great, but sometimes I missed the colors and blacks of my old PSVR, borrowed a PSVR2, liked the image (except for the mura) and Resi 4 and eventually got one today as at 399 EUR I just could not resist.
Luckily didn't buy a PSVR2, all the hassle to extend its life.
So psvr 2 on pc just becomes a bog standard vr headset. Sony never fail to disappoint
Well…dealbreakers all over the place. Saved me quite a bit of cash…
Hey GT sounds like the missing features are due to lack of compatibility on Steam. You think this is possible to be modded / patched later? I think this is sony saying we are not officially supporting it but can be modded via steam as the capability is there
Hope so. There so much to think about. Hardware moves onwards and upwards pretty fast. Will there be enough interest in anyone adding those features if the steam numbers are low to begin with… I hope so
People need to remember, psvr2 was never designed with pc in mind, nor were pc games designed with psvr2 in mind. Sony are a tech company, not wizards.
I absolutely reckon modders will find a way of making pcvr games use psvr2 eye tracking and HDR. Sony are not going to mod or patch every existing pcvr game.
This is the same issue with psvr1 ports.
Foveated rendering without tracking. So worthless, you say. Fixed foveated rendering is ridiculous.
Was quite excited about this until it got to the bit about it not having any of the actual PSVR2 features! 😢😢😢 If I’m going to spend a lot of money on a beefy pc then I might as well get a better pcvr headset as well. Wonder when the quest 4 is coming out….
it's a good native pcvr headset, where you don't have to worry about compression artifacts
Half Life Alyx on a PSVR. My wish has come true. Time to get one….
get a quest 3 instead. cheaper and will be better on pc, just like he said in the video.
@@markwilliamson3043He might be like me who plays mainly on ps5 but also wants to be able pc titles
@brian064 True. meta has a waaaay better library, though. The only thing it's missing is a good racer like GT7, which is the only reason I kept my psvr2
@@brian064me too
@@markwilliamson3043 while meta does have a bigger library. In my experience as someone with a quest 3 and psvr2, I always will pick the psvr2 version of a game over the pc or standalone versions. Mainly because of the eye tracking/haptic features, which is most likely why those features won't be made available when using the pc adapter 😅
I'm hoping some insane modders out there can get eye tracking/haptics working with PC (if Sony is serious about not supporting those features). I already have a Q3...so that would be the only reason I would use PSVR2 instead (on top of paying an additional $60 to do so).
Wonder if the rest is coming later and they don’t want to call it as working now because a lot of that stuff needs the devs to implement in their games and don’t want people to expect it out of the box on every steam games.
I also do have an awesome pulley system at home so I can also see why wireless is not as big for me.
I'm definitely getting it, I have Pimax 8KX, it is pretty good, and I have a PS5 and PSVR2, I want to try it out, to give advice to my friends who keep asking about VR, since the PSVR2 is cheaper than most PC VR headsets in Australia, if it works well enough, that would be a fantastic option.
Im out for now. £50 for an adapter + DP cable a bit steep imo. I only use it for gt7 anyways. Ive got better pcvr headsets. Just ordered a crystal light. The headset cool if thats all you got. Its best features cant be used on pc. Which is by far the head vibrations.
Quest has better lens, but I think PSVR2 has better features overall. And it is more confortable too. If these features come to PC eventually, this will be my favorite VR gear
The Quest 3 already has a higher resolution than the PSVR2, so all the missing features are making this headset kind of a pass. It doesn't really have much going for it if none of the features work.
The Q3 has not a oled display..
Well quest 3 has high compression when playing games on pc, plus it’s not an oled screen. The main competitor on pc is the valve index which requires base stations to play. So I would say there’s quite a lot going for the psvr 2.
@@its_Vlad I wouldn't recommend a valve index at this point. It's rather outdated and outperformed by other headsets. It was good 5 years ago. Despite the slight drop in fov the Quest 3 just creates a better image. If you are going to spring for a Valve Index you'd be better off just going a little more and buying a Pimax Crystal, Bigscreen Beyond or something akin to that that has higher quality LEDS.
With the psvr2 you suffer the loss of a lot of brightness and still get stark differences between off and on states of each pixel (at minimum brightness). The cheaper leds on the psvr2 also cause a lot of issues with persistence, not to mention the mura.
@@Tanuvein The Q3 is not a real PCVR headset, because it has no DP. I own also a q3, but I am not willing to sacrifice performance and image quality. A true competitor to PSVR2 could be the crystal light. But pimax products tend not to work the first year after release. I also own a crystal..
Even with all the drawback, it is still a more reasonable price than other headsets of a similar caliber. Plus it can still be used on the ps5. So i think this is a win.
Very excited, ive been wanting to play alyx for 4 years. Recently picked up a psvr2 and built a pc.
Soooo if you have a Quest 3 for PCVR, don't bother 😎
The only thing worse than latency and compression is a wire
so weird, eye tracking is available on pc vr. wonder why sony isn't supporting it at driver level. they goofed it up hard haha
Honestly unless kidders can add back the missing features it’s not worth the money to use it as a pcvr headset
This is great news but Sony should also add steamlink support on PS5 for people that already own the PS5 and don't want to waste money on an adapter.
Sorry GT I'd rather drop 50 quid on HL ALYX PSVR2 version since I don't have a VR PC
Well this kinda confirms HLA will never directly come to PSVR2...😥
@@GAMERTAGVR yeah it's a shame as clearly playing Alyx on PS5/PSVR2 could be a better experience with eye tracking, HDR, rumble etc
You never know, it might still come along with an Astro game later which should chill people out a bit.
I still think the PSVR2 is too expensive for families and casual gamers so why would they invest in casual experiences like astro, playroom vr2 and vr2 worlds etc. maybe in a year or so we will get those things when the headset is cheaper.
@@apukdcfc You thought Valve would return the favour after Sony giving all their exclusives to Steam? lol. Sony always has to learn the hard way.
@@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA Giving? Sony just wants to make money and selling on the largest digital platform does that for them.
Unfortunately, the Quest 3 has been my least favorite headset I’ve owned. The object bloom in dark scenes on the pancakes fogs up the entire lens to the point you can’t even see, it’s garbage. Hanging onto the Pro for now, which atleast has decent contrast, until this adapter is available. The vaseline smear compression gives you on foliage, particle effects, etc is not worth the cost of a lens that’s better for reading menus, and the lack of contrast. Hope you all enjoy staring at a bad display behind a great lens.
After seeing the full potential of PSVR2 in Red Matter, I will never purchase a standard LCD HMD again. I’m already imagining Half Life Alyx on the OLED with the clarity of RM on the PS5. So pumped for another playthrough of that, and for all my racing games to not look like shit.
Red Matter 2 was an incredible experience. If you can get those visuals on PC with PSVR2 I’ll be so happt
I'm really looking forward to this. Granted there's features missing but I think that what you gain in terms of content that'll never appear natively on PlayStation consoles. (Modded flat games as an example) Hugely outweighs the negatives of losing vibration in the headset, eyetracking etc. They're nice to have but not essential for me personally.
Exactly. Unless Sony stops production altogether this could become a big success. Don’t understand why the Quest 3 crowd is so upset.
So instead of having a dozen options for VR on pc, they now have yet another one, and it requires a special doodad/cable that introduces even *more* friction into the space, while having less features? (gonna need the globular cluster addon and probably a charger stand for the controllers too)
Yeah this is *not* gonna set the pcvr world on fire but it does paint a pretty bleak picture for how Sony views its VR peripheral.
(imo anyways)
I'm still gonna be using my Quest 3 on pc, and if I had a super rig capable of running high end VR games on max, I'd get a dedicated pcvr hmd that makes the resolution on psvr2 blush with embarrassment.
I love my psvr2, but I don't love how Sony decided to "support" it and it doesn't seem like they're learning any lessons at all, only doubling down on what didn't work the first time. 😒
Yeah I can't believe there are people considering this headset with the thinking that someone will do plugins,hack,tinkering to get the other stuff working. PCVR 10 years later and we are still advocating for it to be even less user friendly. Sony can keep these headsets as far as I'm concerned, it will just be a headache for anyone.
Initially I was disappointed..but then on reflection it’s still going to be great visuals for £500 with Oled…to loose eye tracking isn’t massive in pcvr ..and haptics..well can’t miss what you never had. My index is tired…looks like index won’t have a replacement in the near future …so this may well be a good idea for a year or so…see what else comes along ..if reviews are good…I might jump in
It’s definitely a win for existing users. Not as good as it could of been obviously
I really hope we can get Re4Re VR now on pc as well. Please Capcom, make it happen!!!
It's great for people who already have a PSVR headset, I just can't go back to wired VR. I upgraded my router for 100 bucks and I can play any PCVR game wirelessly on my Quest 3 with the graphics maxed out, which still may not look as good as they would on a PSVR headset, but it's more than good enough. Wires are more immersion breaking to me than snap turning or teleport movement. Some games are almost impossible to enjoy with wires with how much you need to move around as well.
Yeah and it's insane how the fanboys try to defend wires LOL
@@bp4861I mean wire gets no compression and with a pulley system are not noticeable, but I get people not wanting that kind of setup.
@@bp4861They are still very good news for the people who have already bought psvr 2 or , who have ps5 and plan to buy vr- Headset: like me
Check out kiwi cable management system. Cheap and you don't have to drill into your ceiling
@@bp4861 Don't say that lol. I have both a quest 3 and psvr 2, and while it's great to be able to play wirelessly, I can't find myself trading the immersion I get from the HDR, haptics, and eye-tracking the psvr 2 provides. So there are definitely arguments for both sides 👍🏻
in the right mind would buy this compared to all other PCVR devices that are available. PS VR2 price + adapter + display port cable. There are better VR devices out there for less of the price
Maybe it will be Pimax Crystal Light with microdiming
This has to be a win for VR and looks like Sony isn’t ready to give up on PSVR2. It’s a good start with PC compatibility. This will definitely shift PSVR2 head sets and maybe prepare Sonys fan base with more PSVR2 exclusives. Sony had no choice to go this route to compete with Quest 3
Did you not watch the video? No haptics, eye-tracking, and HDR! Sounds like Sony gave up on PSVR2 and is just trying to make some extra cash by selling a $60 cable.
@@RoyHoy yes I know for PC support it doesn’t have those haptics that is obvious but they still have to compete with Quest 3 hence the PC support. Even though game support has been low. Sony has another summer announcement of more PSVR2 games release so not ready yet to give up
@@newhappiness4410 Sony doesn't have to compete with Quest 3. The same reason Sony doesn't have to compete with Nintendo. Quest 3 is for those that want to play standalone games or on PC. PSVR2 is for those that want to play games on PlayStation. If Sony really wants to compete, then all the PSVR2 features would've been available on PC. Also, I don't recall Sony saying they are going to announce PSVR2 games in the summer...
This is literally because Sony gave up on vr. They said that due to lackluster sales no more first party vr games and then announced this.
Might move a few units, but long term its still DOA. Priced still too high. They can't even sell it own their own console, how they expect psvr to do any better when they aren't supporting it software wise. I will try it out when its cheaper, like under 300 dollars.
You know what? I’m gonna pick one up now regardless. I’m a tinkerer at heart, and I know for a fact that it’s only a matter of time before a community driver releases with the features we want.
As a replacement for my Rift S of which the controller ring finally split in half yesterday this is kind of a great upgrade even without the features, as long as the experience is good. Not to mention I can use it to try out the PSVR2 library on my ps5.
This makes sense. I loved my Rift S till I started reviewing more headsets and the screen door effect kills it for me. I actually bought another Rift S 3 years later due to fond memories. I tried it once and sold it instantly. If that’s the best you’ve had Quest 3 will blow you away and I hope PSVR2 is good too
@@GAMERTAGVR Don’t get me wrong, I am in love with my quest 3, and the lenses are sooooo lovely ignoring the vignette, but there is really something about a native, hard tethered headset for PCVR play in particular that I love. The clarity over Display port is unmatched, to the point where I often times would settle for using my rift s over my Quest for wired play, and unfortunately Virtual Desktop is just completely unusable for me on my setup, so I don’t get any of the benefits of wireless pcvr.
This is a net-positive benefit because no other VR headset available for SteamVR provides HDR, Resistive Triggers, Haptic Feedback (headset), improved Haptic Feedback (other than rumble) for VR controllers either.
Wonder if temporary software limitation because SteamVR drivers or a permanent limitation of the PSVR2 PC Adapter hardware?
Yes the people don't need a Play Station system to do this, BUT you do need a PC and a graphics card with a Display Port - Plus the adaptor device. And it sounds like some features of the PS VR headset are not implemented.
Thanks for the video. I will still stick with using my Quest 3. Take care.
Well obviously the whole point was to bring it to PC vr lmao
Well, with all the compromises, I think the Quest 3 ultimately is the better choice for playing these PC VR games here then. The OLED and it being a direct connection without compression [presumably] are the two things that still seems to be in the favour of using the PSVR 2 headset over Quest 3, although the mura might balance that out again.
I looked up info for the adapter and did not expect tom hardy being so tech knowledgeable 😮🤯
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I mean eye tracing foveated rendering & HDR wont work with PC only because the games wont of been programmed to utilise them?, there is nothing stopping
anyone patching their games to use them if they wish.
HDR is nothing new at all. I can understand foveation eyetracking, but HDR....
@@derschnuff8819 HDR is new for VR. SteamVR didn't even support it until a few months ago. Only the Pimax Crystal and the MeganeX have HDR and those are irrelevantly niche.
Won't happen.
Eye tracked foveated rendering will. Other headsets are already using it with supported games.
@@derschnuff8819 Doesn't matter, if the game hasn't been made with HDR the headset won't be able to make use of it.
I am not at all surprised. In the back of my head, I knew those features would be missing. So, for me, I will skip this. OLED isn't enough for me to try it. To be perfectly honest, I absolutely hate how small the sweet spot is with this HMD and the lenses. Not to mention, the battery life in the controllers is not good. I love the controllers, but battery life is poo! Think I'll leave mine for my PS5 in the end. I'm slightly bummed, but I'm not really surprised. 👊🏻🍺
I’ll buy one if it works with openxr. I’m not using steam vr for sim racing.
Honestly with most VR games having a growing modding community, I can definitely see some games getting a unofficial compatibility patch for those missing features.
Just wait for people to make some plugin software so that we can use those features just fine.
Yes more hacks, plugins, tinkering is exactly what PCVR needs 10+ years in. Buying this just adds more mess to a space that is already flagging and dying.
@@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA Literally the 90% of the VR space is held by community made software, this isn't a market where companies can make a profit precisely, it's been user driven for a long time, and it will keep being so until companies decide once and for all onto making a single software suite for every single headset, but they are waaaay to busy fighting their shitty copyrights to sit tight and look how the community keeps doing all the work.
VR is still a niche within a niche. And in many cases fit another niche within a niche within a niche within a niche, until Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo decide to make a standalone headset as their next gen gaming console we will not see all that much progress in VR.
Good, now wait for Astro Bot to come to PC ,inject VR and done.
True but didn’t need a PSVR2 for that to happen. I wanted this to be a huge win for PSVR2
@@GAMERTAGVR absolutely, i also wanted it be a huge win for PSVR2. Love the headset and it deserves so much better. At least if Astro comes to pc and i can use the PSVR2 i will feel a bit better.
Don't go out and buy a PSVR2 to play VR on PC. It's kinda low res (18ppd), wired only, has fresnel lenses and the eye tracking doesn't work. You'll get better res on a Quest 3 and can play wirelessly.
It makes zero sense money wise. No support for headsets features. Must use wire only, no wireless option. Just get a Quest 3. This is only for people who already own PSVR 2 and want to spend extra $60 for adapter.
Without eyetracking, hdr and haptics, using PSVR 2 as a PCVR device has far less appeal. I doubt it will be long before modders can re enable those features but it’s sad Sony can’t be bothered to do it themselves.
No mention of the GPUs that have the Virtual Link Port, the PSVR2 should be just plug and play with those GPUs if AMD have fully enabled the ports to work with the PSVR2, no adapter would be required?
Well that's disapointing. I was hoping to sell my Quest 3 since I mainly use it for PCVR. Since i was hoping of Foviated rendering with eye tracking support to boost my 3080 to the max fidelity. Never tried PCVR without compression though, but don't think it is worth it. When you get your hands on this box, please do a video comparing this to Quest 3 PCVR. cool?
What the actual? No eye tracking hdr or haptics or adaptive triggers? Why Sony why? Sort ya app out. Smh.
So lets just take out access to all the features that make the headset worth struggling through its awful comfort for.
Wow Sony really messed this up snatching defeat from the jaws of easy victory. That is hugely disappointing.
They could have really stolen a march with just the HDR and dfr eye tracking enabled. I mean i suppose someone will just have to hack that in if sony cant be bothered to enable it. And the headset rumble could be set off by bhaptics triggers.
I hope its just because those features require software support. And hopefully they are not specifically blocked by sony cheaping out on the 'adaptor' which maybe doesn't support the bitrate for HDR or the data rate for the eye tracking and other things. Like the v1 psvr break out box couldnt do hdr.
Wait a minute, How can We use VR2 headset if the cable is too shorty, 1 metre?
The displayport cable, which you need to buy separately, isn't....
If they removed all the features that made it stand out, then they should lower the price significantly. If adaptive triggers and haptics don’t work, then they should sell a discounted version without those things for PC. They could also only lower the price to $499 and include the cable and a DisplayPort cable with it.
Its almost a lose, lose. Play it on PS5 and have all the great feats, but have the shite reprojection. Play it on PC and have no reprojection, but lose the great feats. It makes sense though since pc games dont have them feats coded in. May not be buying the adapter and downloading thier software untill they get them feats in. Unless thier software comes with my psvr2 game library to play on pc.
I don't really get who this is for. People who already have a gaming pc whose only headset is a psvr2. Seems like a small minority
Without all the features available, it will be better and cheaper to just buy a Quest 3.
The lenses on the quest 3 are so much better. Can't imagine going back.
but compression is dog shit....try the forest vr on q3....its shit even in 900mbit cable mode
@@betonman9 I've got a wifi 6 router in the same room I play in. Using virtual desktop I've never noticed any compression or lag or anything.
Thanks for the video.
Why no HDR? That makes no sense Linux and Windows BOTH support it.. Also is the crappy Sony PlayStation VR2 app Windows ONLY?
The list of what will not work:
Eye tracking, HDR, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback are not available when playing on PC... I'm just repeating this to have a checklist for the future.
Great move from Sony. I hear people moaning about eye tracking, haptics etc not part of the plan but that's obvious as PC VR games will need patches to support this...same with HDR. I don't recall any PCVR games having HDR?
This is a great move. I love VR but after PSVR1 and Quest two I still struggle with motion issues and avoided PSVR 2 but now I may get one as PC VR opens a huge door...and games like Half Life Alyx are sublime.
Even HDR is not supported? That is weird...HDR is an inputsignal at first and nothing new at all on PC. Why this is not working on PC? You can even force in Windows HDR in automode on non compatible games, if you got an HDR-ready Device.
Well, it is nice that you can use the VR2 as Steamheadset now...but this will not sell any additional VR2 units in my opinion. Without HDR, Eyetracking Foveation, adaptive triggers and feedback...this is nothing more than a generic last gen Headset - for 650€ now including the adapter.
Quest 3 way better choice for that money. Again Sony does the bare minimum. Hard to get excited. It is fun for sure to check it out on PC - but again, only good for those, who already own the VR2.
in the right mind would buy this compared to all other PCVR devices that are available
Anyone with a brain would buy the psvr2 over other pcvr devices
@@bxile730 What are you on about? The quest 3 blows the PSVR 2 out the water considering the PSVR2's best features dont even work on PC. Not too mention it is wired only and has outdated Fresnel lenses. Nowhere near worth the money Sony are asking for.
Since games at the Steam store were made for PCs, they were not made to use technologies that are built into PSVR2, maybe after this adapter comes out developers will design a patch or make games specifically for people who will use a PSVR2. I like my PSVR2 very much, but I was looking at Quest 3, and it looks very nice, but even now a much older HP Reverb G2 has slightly better resolution than Quest 3. I hope HP will make a Reverb G3 with OLED pancake lenses and 120 FOV or greater, even with the same pixel resolution as the G2 this would be a better headset than what I mentioned here, and I would buy it right away.
No haptics, no foveated rendering, the old Fresnels, no combination USB-C/display port support? What is going to make people want to buy PSVR2 headset when there are Quest and Pico, and others. The only positive outcome is for PS5 owners, allowing them to play PCVR, for everyone else there is ZERO incentive to get PSVR2 thus no effect on Sony's profits. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
So pcvr2 could've become a consumer priced headset with eyetracking for foveated rendering to bring down the cost of PC needed to comfortably run. And they go. No we don't Wana do it.
That's some heavy corpo bu11shiт right there m8.
And whoever thinks oh it's technically impossible or they will decide to ride Sony's соск some other way. I'm telling you some dude in the shad with coding knowledge of a frying pan and some chat gpt sprinkle will come up with a solution that will work almost fine but cus they will be a single person they will not be able to make it perfect.
Oof, no eye tracking? That could have made the PSVR2 the cheapest PCVR HMD with OLED panels and eye tracking.
I guess it's still a somewhat good choice if you *really* want OLED panels, but I think I'd stick with the Quest 3 instead.
Thanks for the heads up mate. As an OLED fanboy (I still have both Rift cv1 and Vive Pro1) I'm looking forward to the psvr2 PC version, mainly for its higher resolution OLED screens.
My main concern is how well it will interface with SteamVR and OpenXR. Sony will probably have its own interface to work with SteamVR, similar to WMR and Pimax, which also need to run there own runtimes, esp. with OpenXR.
My other concern is the lack of ps5 features coming over from the ps5-only version, esp. eye tracking. I don't understand why Sony cannot at least bring over eye tracking? Might be to save paying Tobi an additional licensing fee or something, who knows?
Anyway, it will be interesting to see how well the psvr2 headset works with PCVR. I'll def be waiting for independant user reviews before buying one. Thanks again mate and cheers.
Thanks for watching Tom. Maybe the mod community can get the extra stuff working
There is quite a bit of negativity on faceache about this but…you can play your psvr2 on pc, it doesn’t have the same feature set as the ps5 but it’s not as if they are taking those features away from the ps5. If you have a pc that can work with it then it’s a value add. They are literally not taking anything away. 50 quid plus a £5 cable not a bad deal.
Totally agree, cant wait to try it. Gonna be great for Sim racing. I can now to 180min endurance races in iRacing and not worry about the battery not lasting that long.
It might not be bad for those that already own one with their PS5, but what about those that were considering picking it up that don't have one? If I was going to pay for one, I want all the features to work. Of course the tech is still there, but if it's hamstringed then it might as well not be. Lower the cost considerably if that's the case.
@@plasticlife283 I think one of the greatest features would be foviated rendering. Which Would have to be implemented on every game and sony dont have control of that. But I think we are going to see some mod support to get it working. Even just for HL Alyx
😂 So basically, when I play using my PS5, I'll be immersed in VR. When I play a PC game with my PSVR2, it will play like the non immersive Quest 3. I have to accept mediocrity when not gaming on my PS5. I'm fine with that I guess.
I would happily pay for a dedicated mod that injects all the missing features on games.
I don't understand the whining. It's an option that further increases the library of games one can play if they own a gaming PC, and I'm one of them. I also own a gaming PC but never bought a PCVR because they are too expensive. So now I can finally play Half Life Alyx because I own a PSVR2
The price is too high still for the psvr2 headset. If anything it will allow those who already own the psvr2 to jump into PC gaming. The headset is may be good enough, but the software support is definitely lacking still. People have sold off their headsets and pcvr isn't probably going to entice them if they have to buy a gaming PC for it. I predict the psvr2 is just psvr1 all over again. Quest3 is the better headset.
Sony are moving backwards still... 2024 and the choose to use displayport by default when usb c display port works the same way as they proved with the USB c attached too the headset being proof.
The only thing I can think of is they chose display port adaptor because because the 4 lines are garunteed usually where as dp1. 4 USB c can be hit or miss... You mayor may not support it... You may or may not have 4 data lines and you may or may not have power distribution at the same time
I'll have to wait and see cos my 2024 laptop supports pd and USB-c displayport 1.4 dGPU.. Direct too GPU but it has no displayports..dunnoif buying a adaptor would be a thing.. Usb too dp
Firstly this should have been supported at launch. I guarantee it would have been pretty much sold out. Secondly how can Sony a multi billion dollar corporation not support their own hardware features on the PC platform? The eye tracking and the haptic feedback is the strengths of this device and you're not going to have it for PC players? What a joke everyone is laughing at how pathetic the PlayStation brand has become. And the entire console market while we're at it.
I can't really feel too bad for PC users who buy this headset and don't get a lot of the best features. It's a tradeoff because they'll get to use it to play Half Life Alyx, and even Sony 1st party games like TLOU and Returnal through mods, while us console players don't, so I don't feel bad for them at all.
Here’s why PSVR2 will be better as a PCVR option, because none of the features Sony mentioned that are omitted from PSVR2 with PCVR are present anywhere else… Sony had to cut back features based on what PC can do, and since PC is not PS5 it can’t implement features not even present in other PCVR headsets
it doesn't seem to say that eye tracking isn't available on pc with it though. but it also doesn't say it is available...
Foveated eye tracking isn’t available, but I’m gonna guess that “regular” eye tracking will be
ive only ever owned an oculus quest 1, so this is the upgrade ive been waiting for. very fair price, good resolution, good fov, good build qualitu, amazing controllers (like seriously, the psvr2 controllers are easily the best controllers since the index.) and compatibility with other devices.
Worst thing I ever bought for my son, 550 quid and there are about 3 decent games and he finished them in about 6 week. I thought at least I can connect it to my PC when it is enabled but now they want another 60 quid not a chance I'm probably gonna sell it.
I wonder if those features could come at a later time? I think it’s because Sony can’t expect pcvr devs to adapt their games to these features?
Either way, I think for someone like me who already owns the psvr2 and a ps5 it’s nice to know that if I get a hold of a pc I could expand the use case and play more titles, especially sims racing titles
Just a small correction here (th-cam.com/video/sN6O_fTq7BU/w-d-xo.html) you said that the resolution of the Quest 3 is better. It's not.
Quest 3 resolution is 2064 x 2208 vs. PS VR2 at 2000 x 2040.
Honestly this is what i wanted. I don't care about the eye tracking or haptic feedback shit that's all just gimmicks at the end of the day. Im just glad to have a good wired vr headset that i van use on pc dorectly and not worry about lag like on the quest when you have to stream games to play. Also the fact i don't have tovworry about battery life of the headset is even better! Quest 2 dies so quick man!
Really happy to see this finally come to fruition, been waiting for a while for either third parties to crack the product for PC use or rather now seeing native support, even better.
There are obviously a lot of downsides which is unfortunate, I don't know why specifically HDR and Eye tracking wouldn't be working, seems like an artificial limitation to me considering you are purchasing an adapter that's suppose to hold converters and algorithms inside to make the product compatible for PC, it feels like a rushed hack put together, or maybe they just couldn't for whatever reason have it work with Windows or requires the game developers end of support for it. Either way, I hope that they'll develop for these upsets and get the adapter updated so that these features are null and void.
Edit: Another good way to support the product if Sony decides to ditch it after launch is to release the source code, and allow people to push in updates or develop their own solutions.
Yes. I can see modders getting to grips with it and making good stuff happen
Knowing what it will be capable of on PC, I do not see too many people buying one for PC VR. I can see those who already have one using it on PC to play Steam VR games, but buying one just for PC, no.