wow how the time shifted when it was only ps5 then all people said was murra bad lenses bad brightness price to high ext ext now its on pc and all negatives disappeared in the smoke lol
Like many I just bought one of these at £350 and it might really be the best budget PCVR option for anyone getting into VR and isn't locked into Meta. Even with the adapter cost pushing it to £400 I think it's great. I also didn't realise how much I miss OLED after using a Reverb G2 for a long time. I hope Sony bring back rolling sales for the PSVR2 so everyone can enjoy it!
@@markwilliamson3043 they produced playstation brand which gave me alot of lovely memories throughout years... so Sony win for me and many more like me! ❤
@@OrangeGuyStuff I played with a Samsung Odyssey+ with oled and then switched to a reverb G2 and stopped playing completely. OLED is essential IMO having tried both.
It's like wearing a medieval torture device for me personally. Due to the tiny sweet spot, it typically winds up resting on the bridge of my nose, and due to the lack of any padding it hurts to wearing after 15 minutes. Zero issues with Quest 3. It's super comfortable with the silicone facial interface.
@@cadenceaddison I hear ya! That's something i need to look into. I haven't tossed my PSVR2 just yet simply because i don't have a gaming PC. The stock PSVR interface is horrific. It's thin rubber with zilch for padding.
@@cadenceaddison All it does is block the light from seeping in. the PSVR2, out of the box, is like resting a block of plastic on your nose lol and I hate HDR in VR since it makes the motion persistence a lot slower, which equals motion blur. Some games force HDR like Resident Evil Village(PSVR2), so when you drop the VR brightness slider down too low it just destroys the entire image with severe black crushing.
Might be able to get a price you're happy with on StockX if you can't wait and want brand new only, especially if you want the Horizon bundle. That's where I got mine a while ago
I ordered one from Amazon Warehouse, 'used - like new'. Horizon bundle for about £380. I should get it tomorrow. Managed to order the PC adapter as well directly from Sony.
You said you are running at 100% brightness, you DO NOT want to do that on the PSVR2. The strength of the murra effect is depending on the brightness, reduce it to around 60% and you will archieve the best image quality possible on the PSVR2.
This makes me super happy for the PSVR 2, its now going to get the love it deserved, and open up another audience, which grows VR, which makes more games. Win win for everyone.
The PSVR2 just became the best PCVR headset for under $1600, even at its full retail price its a PCVR bargain, you can all replace your Valve Index's and Reverb G2s now, a worthy successor has arrived and its got OLED displays, a nice FOV and Display Port Technology none of that compressed video streaming nonsense.
The Quest 3 is easily better than all of those. Video streaming compression can be a non-issue as long as you have a good router. Oled is vastly overrated in the psvr2 because it actually harms motion clarity (persistence is too high unless you dim the brightness)
Where did you order it from? I've checked around and those who have it listed show it's unavailable, probably out of stock.. got the headset on sale last week. But now it looks like I'll have to wait on more PC adapter stock..
I've been waiting so long to play HLA in an OLED headset because this game has some truly amazing dark and light areas where OLED is going to be absolutely breathtaking
Smearing, or image persistence is expected on OLED panels. The best way to reduce it is actually to decrease the brightness. It will have bigger impact on smearing than refresh rate.
Black smearing will be there regardless of brightness. This is because I takes more time for a black pixel to turn on in an oled display. But I personally don't mind it.
decreasing the PSVR2's VR brightness slider dial down to 0 gives you a 2ms motion persistence at only 60 nits. :P Quest 3 has zero motion blur(1ms motion persistence or possibly less) at 85 nits. the 25 bump in nits actually makes quite the difference, and because there's no motion blur the motion clarity is like a frikkin CRT. ;) PSVR2's HDR is a total double edged sword. You can't get good motion clarity with high HDR brightness. SDR is the way to fly for now. It's frustrating. Quest 3 has that 'looking through a window' pancake clarity, WIDE sweet spot, no god rays, no motion blur, minimal glare & Higher SDR brightness, but PSVR2 has the deeper blacks(by a land slide), richer vibrant colours and I'm guessing zero image compression when connected to PC due to the display port?
@@NintenZoid84 explain to me how and lcd panel can beat an oled panel in motion and persistence? This is litterally impossible from a panel techs perspective, that's why 120hz/240hz oled pc monitors are way better than even super high lcd refresh monitors
@@Neosin1 The Q3's LCD is using some form of black frame insertion, plus a brighter LCD(I think) which trades gobs of Brightness in SDR for amazing CRT-like BFI that gets it down to less than a 1ms motion persistence, which means zero motion blur. Sony's PSVR2 OLED can reach as low as 2ms once the VR brightness slider is lowered to zero. Motion clarity looks really good(Not as good as Q3's mind you, but close), but then you're stuck with only 65nits brightness. Q3 has 85 nits with 'zero' motion blur. PSVR2 has great blacks & colours, but Q3 has a sharper/clearer image(Thanks to pancake lenses), a wide sweet spot, no motion blur @85 nits in SDR, no god rays, no mura, less glare and slightly higher resolution. But ya, 120hz/fps on an OLED TV removes 50% of OLED motion blur, and 240hz monitors remove 75%. Quest 3 has less motion blur than even 240hz OLED monitors. :P It's basically a CRT. I've got both head sets btw. Q3 rectifies it's tablet power when hooked up to a beefy PC, but i still hate it's black levels and colours! :P Maybe if if only it had a QD-LCD display with local dimming. Micro-OLED however is too expensive for consumer budget VR headsets at this point unfortunately.
Big respect for making this video. I would use room scale even if youre sat down, so that you dont get the boundary showing up when u stretch out. Like you said, mura is only a distraction if you choose to focus on it. If you focus on the game world instead of the pixels, u really dont see it, and the colours and contrast is definitely worth the trade off imo It sounds like even at the normal full price its a better PC choice than many other headsets which cost more than twice that full price
@@BlujusticeVR Well, wouldn't call over 7 million units sold of a $550 PS5 peripheral a failure. But to your point it's like Sony thinks these things will sale themselves, as they have had zero push for the thing after launch as far as games are considered. I think this was the plan along. I don't think they know what kind of games VR players want. It being on PC will give them insight.
@blackrahk2037 in reality pc still only has like 20 games or less fully fledge out VR games so it's not like it's going to help them at all, and dont go saying that uvr thing because thats still a mess to use, they would have better luck porting all psvr games over to the 2 and make full games to release out of ports like cyberpunk, alien isolation, fallout 4 but they didn't even attempt, you think going to PC is going to help it grow, this will be popular for about a month and people will still end up going to meta or big screen, meta unfortunately is the only one with acquired studios for actual full games besides a select few on PC. The same people complaining about not wanting it because its meta because data security are the same people that downloaded TikTok,Just because it sold 7mil don't mean it's has 7mil users lol. More then half are still unused just like mine. But at the end of the day to each their own. If it makes you happy that's all that matters, well besides the facts lol
@@BlujusticeVRPoint of order, I don't want Meta OR TikTok spying on me. I also own more than 20 VR games on Windows. You are, in fact, just making crap up.
as a person who owns q3 and psvr2....i dont see much difference. psvr2 contrast is often destroyed by mura and q3 can get a gigantic colour boost when using VD
@@betonman9 The mura doesn't bother me when im concentrating on the actual gameplay. The black levels you get in the Resident Evil games on PS5 for example makes them a lot more scary and claustrophobic than a LCD panel is capable of(unless it was vs a LCD VR headset capable of great local dimming, but those are really expansive ). I still have the Oculus CV1 which is also oled. Its still a god headset for workout games but it got quite a lot of godrays in very dark scenes. If its godrays vs mura i would pick mura over godrays in dark scenes any day. Im not saying you are wrong though as some get annoyed by some of the PSVR2 flaws while some can look past it. Very few VR headsets are flawless though IMO. I also enjoy GT7 even on its brightest settings in PSVR2 if im concentrating on the gameplay instead of looking for problems/annoyances. i always felt that the contrast and brightness was a bit too low in my HP Reverb for sim racing so im looking forwards using the PSVR2 in sim racing games and games like Half Life Alyx that will be improved IMO with increased black levels. I have no plans to get a Quest 3 yet, but im sure i would enjoy that headset too for different reasons and different type of games. It`s good to hear its possible to boost some good colors in the Q3 headset. im not sure what VD means but does the majority of games support VD natively in the built in processor and on PCVR with Quest 3 ?
Damn, this is good. I'm a console player, and the setup gives me anxiety - you make it look so easy, but for a non-PC person ... I have a reasonably-specced PC, and I might get a friend who is PC-tech savvy to set up my VR2 adapter I'm pleased to see a positive review of the VR2 from a PC person. The sales of the unit will get a boost and this can only be a good thing for all VR enthusiasts. I can't wait to play some PC-based titles.
@@SomeoneNamedJohn It's kinda like that but ultimately it has to do with the screens. Mira kinda looks like screen door to me. I don't really notice it of course you can see it sometimes. The only time I have seen it is when its a super dark loading screen otherwise I don't ever see it when playing. granted not much a horror type but I do play re games or dark shooters.
I'm an editor. I can tell at speed if two blacks butt against each other in a cut. Mura is one of the things keeping me from getting PSVR2. ANY visual discrepancies drive me nuts LOL. Happy for you though! I'll get one eventually and find out how much it drives me crazy.
Damn it LOOKS fucking good using the Playstation PSVR2 adapter on PC! Also, the rumble is beyond good enough out the gates. Thank you Sebastian and Voodoo De for doing the leg work for tracking worries/issues from day 1! Keep it up guys
Sony knows how many units of PSVR2've sold last week. I am sure they are making a good margin on this adapter. There will be a lot more coming. It probably cost them less than $10 to make.
@@adink6486 I reckon Sony are having to think of some corporate spin on why they didn't release PSVR2 with a PC adapter in the first place - it looks like they would have cleaned up the PCVR market instead of having inventory sitting on their shelves.
Please do try with Elite dangerous and comment. It must be insane for space sims, watching all those stars with the pure black of the oleds. With the built in cable power for long vr sessions it might just be the best VR headset now for those kind of sims.
Only if they got this pcvr functionality out there for $350 before Quest 3 released. I myself would've gone for it over Quest 3 (which I have). Stick to Quest 2 for standalone and pcvr non-seated multiplayer (wireless advantage), get PSVR2 for pcvr single player and seated multiplayer plus movies/TV shows, then eventually get Quest 3S to replace Quest 2. Maybe even buy a second hand ps5 to play psvr2 games before I get the 3S.
Awesome! I missed the sale as I have a Quest 3 and couldn't pull the trigger before seeing more reviews. I will continue to watch more review feedback on it and if it goes on sale for $350 again, I'll grab it.
Thanks for this review! I was wondering if I should pull the trigger on Crystal Light (while some reviews are like "meh, its not that great step forward") while I already have PSVR2. And thanks to you it seems like Ill just get the adapter, and wait for some new headset that will surpass PSVR2 greatly (like Crystal Super perhaps when it would be actually released). Also, did you tried any simracing games?
I love this. Gonna scoop asap. Even the breakout box - can place it up front on my desk and easily unplug the headset when not in use without reaching around back. Dope
Thanks for this. I hope that sale comes back. I have a Quest 3 but would love native display port and no Meta/FB data mining. Just a straight Steam VR headset that is OLED and for funzies I can use it to play those PS5 exclusive game(s).
That's exactly what I'm doing with mine (had it on PS5 since launch and love it), PSVR2 has replaced all my old PCVR hmds (last one being Quest Pro). OLED is the only way for me.
@boenk3742 actually the only disadvantages were lack of user interface, social experiences, media usage, mura infestation, dated lenses that oled screens can't even save, uncomfortable to wear, ugly dated tracking rings, and features like haptics, eye tracking that won't even work unless playing games on the ps5. But sure if it makes you happy, my quest 3 over my lame arse psvr2 anyday.
@boenk3742 forgot to mention tiny sweet spot that forces you to adjust the headset ever few minutes, with a small FOV that gets hit with constant god rays due to the dated lenses
love this!!! great way for sony to really show off what the headset is capable of!! Which means people will be pumped for the ps5pro when its drops soon as that extra computing power will mean even better visuals!! Especially with DFR !! hopefully all the sony exclusives get 90hz native support!! imagine RE and GT7 and Horizon running native!!!! good times for VR
I'm buying PS5 PRO day specifically to go with my PSVR2 (I also use it on my VR PC). Yes GT7 enhanced for pro is worth the cost of admission for me personally. And I love all the extras you get on PS5 + the low friction.
Just wanted to say I go my Hons VR lenses recently. I had to special order mine because my prescription has prism measurements in it. My Optrician said I should get lenses with prism in it if I can find them as my vision will be MUCH sharper in the headset. Hons VR made it very easy to special order using their virtual assistant. They built a special order for me, sent me a link to it right in the chat and I clicked, paid, and then received them only less than two weeks longer than normal. I use my PSVR2 way more now. Glad they are sponsoring your videos!
@@Kelvin-w6s lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruh sounds like people in 2020 saying PSVR1 would never get the adapter included. For those unaware Sony does include the adapter for PSVR use in the box after PS5 launch and the ones with no adapter were phased out.
@Nynex I wouldn't be surprised if there's a packaging revision or a V2 that will include this adapter much like PSVR1 did after the PS5 launched where they started to include the adapter in the packaging.
A few steps he left out during setup. First you must click your heels 3 times, then contact NASA for a launch code, reverse the worm hole effect by a coefficient of + or - no more or no less than 18% of the leading edge refraction rate. Simply retract the included digital antenna/Giger counter to a contiguous fratistat to 90% from dead center. After that it's pretty smooth sailing provided you have already used a, sold separately, spatial gravitas motion deregulator for unseen fluorescent interference. There you have it. So you can now enjoy the upwards of 6 games that "Kinda" support this Headset a little. Cheers!
Not surprisingly, they're already sold out before they got available. Gonna have to wait, and I'm in no hurry. I already have Quest 3 for my PCVR need and my PSVR2 for my PS5.
i was about to sell my psvr2 then they announced that this box would come out and make it playable on PC. i'm glad i waited to see how good it is so i'm now probably getting this.
I bought the adapter as soon as I realized it was August 7th, and, though I already have a Bluetooth adapter, I went ahead and bought one of the dongles Sony recommended, just in case. Hope you're going to try MSFS in the headset, naturally. I'd like to hear your views on how the PSVR2's OLED enhances (or not) the experience. Great video, Sebastian. Thanks for removing a lot of potential PSVR2 fans' doubt.
The headset is fairly close to being steamVR native, so openXR will work via steam VR's openXR. I've never gotten open composite to work on steamVR's openXR
I've also noticed that mura is less prevalent on pc. I can see it only in super dark areas like very dark greyish tones. The headset surprised me so much it's great. I wanted to buy quest 3 for pcvr but now i'm not (I've had the psvr2 since launch. The displayport clean image + oled colors makes it a great deal. Plus its super light so no neck strain and you can play for hours.
It actually makes sense to exclude the displayport cable and bluetooth radio from the bundle. People tend to have spare cables, so if you get another one with this, that's one more cable in the drawer. As for bluetooth, it comes standard now on all laptops and wifi-having motheroards.
Thanks for the video . That all sounds great - all we need now is someone to produce some software for haptics in the headset and maybe foveated rendering and a wireless adaptor .
Thank you for the Affiliate links, I just ordered mine! They were in stock at Amazon Germany, and it was only about $17 (US) dollars more wich included shipping. Much more cheaper than they are selling for now online, with almost a 3x mark up price by the resellers. I just have to wait 2 weeks to get it... lol 😂
I recently got the vr2 while it was on sale for $350 in the US. It's not so appealing at its full price but It is amazing for GT on the ps5. Like I cannot play GT on a flat monitor anymore. It's that amazing. Im looking forward to getting the adaptor for pc but sony really hasnt made it available outside of their sony direct site.
Into the radius 1 or 2 in the dark areas I'd love to see through the lens....my q3's lcd panels make it kinda all grey and I can't wait to try it on the psvr2!
i see it on every brightness setting... But i am a clarity addict so i have the quest 3 and had the orginal pimax crystal.. But after playing many games now i prefer the psvr2 with the pc adapter.. even with the short comings,like mura, small sweetspot,soft image... And i like the rumble in the controllers..I have a wow feeling again when i got my old oculus cv1.. And offcourse the insane brightness and blacks and colors
It would not make sense to put BT into the adapter due to how BT works. There would be less flexibility with it and interference from other wired and wireless devices can affect it. The adapter is not only PSVR2 adapter but an adapter for all VR headsets that rely on virtuallink connection.
The Bluetooth in my laptop works perfectly and I am sure many others have the same situation. Would be a waste of money to include it for everyone and could cause issues for some that the integrated works perfectly already.
@@BartCunningham Interference by other devices is the biggest issue here. And instruction itself tells to keep BT dongle far away from the adapter for this very reason.
@@kordelas2514 That doesn't change the fact that the built-in adapter will probably work fine for most people. That would just leave us with a piece of hardware we paid for but don't need.
@@kordelas2514 I understand how it works perfectly. I am a network engineer/administrator and have been doing this stuff since before Bluetooth even existed. If you have issues or don't have a good Bluetooth adapter then yes you need one. If the integrated one works well don't muck it up by adding even more things to cause interference and problems!
well, they just sold me on it. Letting it work on PC put it at the top of my list as someone who has never had a VR. Looking forward to finally try the HL game.
I was seriously disappointed when the PS5 launched with no 3D Blu-ray support. Based on the comment above I am happy to see that the headset has support
So happy. I bought a PSVR2 day one and hadn't used it much. But now I can connect it to my PC and play my VR games there. Plus i have a 20 series GPU so i don't even need an adapter. Plugs straight in
Meta needs to give us an options you know like Steam Deck. Quest 3 LCD or Quest 3 OLED that would be nice. As much as I love my Quest 3 I find it not bright enough. It's like everything is so murky and muddy.
Then I guess my suspicions were confirmed. This is the G2 replacement I've been waiting for for my flight sim cockpit! I hope to see through-the-lense of MSFS at night, Elite Dangerous and maybe Star Wars Squadrons?
Not surprised that the bluetooth issue turned out to be a non issue. It was one youtuber who seemed to lack a lot of knowledge about bluetooth. I'm surprised how many people was complaining about needing bluetooth. It's 2024 people. Question is though how does it compare to a Q3? Wireless Virtual Desktop 500 bitrate H.264 (200 bitrate AV1) or the Link cable 960 bitrate vs the Display Port on the PSVR2?
@@VadimZverevyou dont need it if your graphic card already support virtual link like the rtx 20** series. It was discontinued with the 30** series. Some other graphic cards of other companies also support.
Also smartsmoothing works great with the psvr2,just played the forest at 120hz and smartsmooting enabled... just so fluid... And wow the moon at night is stunning!!
How does it compare to the Samsung Odyssey, Odyssey + or Quest Pro? I do want a great OLED or local dimming headset but under $500 and I saw some used Quest Pros for $400-$500 now. I loved the Odysseys when I had them and I don't think they had mura. Did you ever try the Odyssey at 200-250% RR? I wonder if it would help it look better. The only downside of the Odysseys was the controller tracking to me.
I would also like to know this. My only headset has been a Samsung O+ and it was a very nice headset. I sold it at major discount to a friend with my old PC to try and hook him on PC gaming (and VR). Now, I don't have a headset, and I am looking for that magical one that basically does it all. I essentially want a Crystal, but built by someone like a Valve. And what of the features I've heard don't work on PC, like HDR output, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, VR headset feedback, VR headset eye tracking, and headband vibration?
I'm in the US the adapter sold out overnight even from PSstore.. Glad I saw your video and affiliate link !! Bought it from there for $80 US with shipping . Now just have to wait till the 20th for delivery .
@@rodriguezkev I love the xbox, have always preferred it over the playstation. But I also love VR, and I hate xbox for never considering it. I'm just really happy more people can play PCVR games! No matter who made the headset :D Sony have done something really good here :) I would love to see them enable the extra features on the headset for pc though. also the bluetooth being in the adapter would've been real nice
You have it backwards. Quest has already won and is totally dominant in vr because its objectively better. Sony fanboys are defensive as they always are, not just for VR but about anything Sony does in general.
I bought my PSVR2 on the first release, paid full price. I never use it anymore or the PS5 for that matter. I've got a water cooled 4080 and a 7800X3D, so yes I'll be buying the adapter.
I think the direct competitor of PSVR2 PC is the Quest 3. I owned a Quest 3 and I also have a PSVR2 $350 ready to be picked up. Is the display port and oled screen thing really worth it over the Quest 3's pancake lenses and technologies.
If you already have a Quest 3 keep it but if you're buying a new headset definitely go rock that PSVR 2 you cannot beat that 260+ nit OLED display and a direct DisplayPort connection
They're not competitors. PSVR2 uses a cable, Quest 3 has wireless and standalone capability. PS2VR's closest competitors are other cabled PCVR headsets.
They do different things well. PSVR2 has OLED panels and a wired connection but Quest 3 has pancake lenses which are better than the Fresnel lenses in the PSVR2. Anyone who thinks Fresnel is better, no it's not, that's the same lenses that the Quest 2 has. Quest 3's other strengths are wireless gaming (so better for fitness games where freedom of movement is important) and has mixed reality (MR) content.
I thoroughly enjoy my PSVR2 on PS5 and now on steam! Everything connects and works well with little issue. The BIGGEST downside, is everytime I connect the controllers to my PC, I have to reconnect back to my PS5 through adding a device. And vice versa which is just a pain. It is like the controllers can only pair properly with one device at a time.
OLED forever, who cares if LCD has couple more pixels..... by the way, "through the lens" it's not fair towards OLED headsets, colors and contrast doesn't show correct on youtube, because in reality LCD headset screens are so foggy and washed out in comparison
OLED is better in some situations, but OLED panels are not compatible with pancake lenses, which are much clearer, so reading text is better on pancake. PSVR2 uses Fresnel (same as Quest 2).
Ya, i found that I prefer OLED in VR even with its downsides of mura and motion persistence. LCD just looks so flat and washed out in comparison, and my mind can ignore the VR OLED problems just fine while I can never unsee the downside of LCD as the whole image just doesn't look nearly as good. I would take either but I prefer OLED
@@urania3333 OLED won't improve that as it's to do with the lenses. OLED is a panel technology and has nothing to do with the lenses. Mini LED with Pancake lenses would produce better text clarity than OLED while still having better contrast than normal LED.
@@acurisur I even bought a Crystal, and a part for poor performance even with a 4080, small fov, heavy headset and with full local dimming blacks are still grey.... didn't liked it and refunded, believe it or not I prefer my Rift cv1 :)
highly unlikely it will ever be made. Only reason PSVR 2 got PC support is because they made 2 million of them and hundreds of thousand left unsold in warehouses.
@@blabla1177-r7u PS VR3 will be made, probably a year into the PS6 life cycle and it will have micro Oled display. VR is in steady growth and it's only gonna get bigger and bigger, Sony literally has a whole VR market all for them self consisting of over 50 million potential buyers
Try turning the brightness down for less mura and clearer motion. Because we're not in HDR it seems you can lower the brightness significantly while still keeping a nice contrast.
I don’t get it,I have a Quest 3 but I’m not a fanboy either.the Quest 3 will give me everything I need and I can’t hate on Sony.Sony has made my go to console since PS2.PSVR1 was my first headset,even though it had its downfalls,I still got a lot of fun out of it.I want to see VR moving forward in general..this was definitely a good move for Sony
Great review! Made me consider getting one for GT7 (PS5) and Alyx (PC) alone. About the PSVR2 Mic on OBS... I honestly couldn't tell a difference through my laptop's speakers. That's got to be a testament to PSVR's high quality
I called it. A PS5 can't drive this headset to its full potential. I knew as soon as the PC adapter is out in the wild, folks would (literally) begin to see the light
I mean, using eye tracking, many devs say ps5 out performs high end pc rigs, eg with no man's sky. Its best on ps5. Not to mention the added function of head haptics. Having said that, I'm looking forward to seeing how many games utilise a ps5 Pro patch to further boost performance.
@@shenmeowzo Eye-tracking and DFR are great and I'm glad Sony worked on it, but it only nets around 30-40% gains in real world scenario. Which is still great! But apples-to-apples, going from a PS5 to a 4090 is more like a 200-300% increase in raw rasterization power. And that's not really a fair comparison because a 4090 is a $2500 GPU, but the point is, how we define "PC" is a very broad benchmark depending on one's budget
The PS5 drives it just fine. That foveated eye tracked rendering really helps it. So other than the big AAA games that can't reach a native 90 on the PS5, no matter the tricks and optimization, it's very comparable to higher end PC VR. Though I am very excited about this adapter. I got one ordered. I happen to have built my first PC recently, and now that I'll be able to use my headset on PC, too, I'll get a lot more use out of it. I assume Sony made this adapter to help sell off more of their VR stock since they didn't sell well. And I'm all for it. Now , I can use it on both platforms. I think it's gonna be primarily a PC headset for me now, way larger library and options
@@sawdust8691 I mean this in a good way, the experience on PC (with a 4090, specifically) is going to be leaps and bounds better than what the console can do. And again, like my previous comment, there's nothing wrong with that and it should be expected that a $2,500 GPU is going to significantly outperform a $399 console. The PS5 is an excellent value proposition and I love mine. But I am also extremely excited to see what the headset can do with a 4090, regardless of DFR. Specifically -- a PS5 is roughly on par with a RTX 2070 or 3060 in terms of real-world performance, factoring in console optimization. DFR offers gains of around 30-40%. A 4090 outperforms a 2070 by 250% - 320%.
Sebastian, hello :) I don’t seem to be a person driven by advertising, but in this case, you “infected” me (in the good sense of the word) with the desire to become the owner of this adapter. Moreover, knowing your correct, unvarnished attitude towards Psvr2, your emotions and impressions fuel interest and give rise to a smile :) Moreover, I have Quest 3 and Psvr 2. As I understand it, Steam automatically set such a high resolution to 150%? Have you disabled dynamic resolution in HL Alyx? You can set the settings in the shortcut there and the picture will be more constant.
@@mixedrealityTVIt turns out that Psvr2 works with PC and without Psvr 2 adapter, if there is Virtual link (for example, I have 2080ti), only Bluetooth dongle or built-in Motherboard is needed. Sebastian, can you do a similar test with and without adapter, I wonder if there is a difference in image quality? I don't have the right Bluetooth version yet, but of course I'll try.
@@mixedrealityTVIt would be interesting to see tests/comparisons, with and without the Psvr 2 adapter. I wonder if there will be a difference in image quality. I am interested in the following: the Psvr 2 adapter connects to the PC via Display port, and then we connect the Psvr 2 headset to the USB type c port on the adapter itself. And the question arises, is there a difference? Maybe the adapter gives a better image or there is no difference at all?
Excellent. Agree with your points. If you could show the new Riven remake on these, that would be awesome. Also, The 7th Guest remake would be great. TY.
Thanks for the initial review! My adapter arrives tomorrow and it's great to see it does not disappoint. Can I ask you what headphones you have clipped onto the headset there? I plan to use my playstation headphones with the pc but it might be good to have a separate set for PCVR. Thanks, look forward to seeing more reviews.
Yeah, I can't say I'm interested. Even before the PSVR2 launched, I was advocating for it coming to PC - as I had really intended to buy a PS5 at some point and wanted the device to pull double-duty rather than having to buy multiple headsets for multiple platforms. But... there's just no games for the PS5, so it kills half the value proposition for me, and I already have a comparable experience on my Reverb G2. Then there's the other downsides like the mura, which really bothers me - thanks in part to a lot of time spent in the PSVR1 - and not having an onboard audio solution. Ideally off-ear speakers like the Reverb and Index have. So, since it looks like I'm never getting a PS5 due to it being a complete game desert - I think I'll see how much longer my Reverb holds out and then buy a Pimax Crystal Light. Which is a stupid name, by the way. Might as well have called it the Pimax Tang.
Thank you for a good review! This might actually replace my Rift S - it really ticks all of my boxes. Out of curiosity, were you able to fix the microphone clipping? The mic sounds pretty awful in HL:Alyx, but it also sounds like the gain was set too high. Hopefully tweaking the settings can fix that?
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What are your thoughts about the PSVR2 PC Adapter???
I just want Native steam app on ps5 Instead
@@lflj1249I just ordered one in France
Is there a recoil gun stock yet? What gun stock do you think is best for PSVR2?
@@WaynerTheGamerThat's not possible
wow how the time shifted
when it was only ps5 then all people said was murra bad lenses bad brightness price to high ext ext now its on pc and all negatives disappeared in the smoke lol
I'm sooo happy this is a thing now. Honestly even if this was like a last ditch effort for Sony with the PSVR2, it might just work for me.
Like many I just bought one of these at £350 and it might really be the best budget PCVR option for anyone getting into VR and isn't locked into Meta. Even with the adapter cost pushing it to £400 I think it's great. I also didn't realise how much I miss OLED after using a Reverb G2 for a long time. I hope Sony bring back rolling sales for the PSVR2 so everyone can enjoy it!
but it's locked into Sony, which is just as worse. Sony are a bastsard of a company.
@@markwilliamson3043 _touche!_ I guess as long as this PSVR Steam App keeps working...
@@markwilliamson3043oh please, no psn sign in whatsoever.
@@markwilliamson3043How is it locked into Sony
@@markwilliamson3043 they produced playstation brand which gave me alot of lovely memories throughout years... so Sony win for me and many more like me! ❤
I totally agree with this video. I played HLA on the vive and Index. But playing it on the PSVR2 gives it a really new immersion feeling!
@@OrangeGuyStuff I played with a Samsung Odyssey+ with oled and then switched to a reverb G2 and stopped playing completely. OLED is essential IMO having tried both.
The PSVR 2 is not only cheaper than most PC headsets but it's the most smooth running and comfortable for long gaming sessions.
It's like wearing a medieval torture device for me personally. Due to the tiny sweet spot, it typically winds up resting on the bridge of my nose, and due to the lack of any padding it hurts to wearing after 15 minutes. Zero issues with Quest 3. It's super comfortable with the silicone facial interface.
@@NintenZoid84comfort mod is a must.its like 30$ and takes less than 10 minutes
@@cadenceaddison
I hear ya! That's something i need to look into. I haven't tossed my PSVR2 just yet simply because i don't have a gaming PC.
The stock PSVR interface is horrific. It's thin rubber with zilch for padding.
@@NintenZoid84 yea when i removed the stock padding it felt sub 1$ quality
@@cadenceaddison
All it does is block the light from seeping in. the PSVR2, out of the box, is like resting a block of plastic on your nose lol
and I hate HDR in VR since it makes the motion persistence a lot slower, which equals motion blur. Some games force HDR like Resident Evil Village(PSVR2), so when you drop the VR brightness slider down too low it just destroys the entire image with severe black crushing.
I wish I didn't hesitate at the discounted price. I might pick it up once they discount it again.
The next discount will probably be during Black Friday on november 29th
Might as well buy one second hand for £250-300 because a lot of psvr2s just haven't been used so much
Might be able to get a price you're happy with on StockX if you can't wait and want brand new only, especially if you want the Horizon bundle. That's where I got mine a while ago
It is so good
I ordered one from Amazon Warehouse, 'used - like new'. Horizon bundle for about £380. I should get it tomorrow. Managed to order the PC adapter as well directly from Sony.
You said you are running at 100% brightness, you DO NOT want to do that on the PSVR2.
The strength of the murra effect is depending on the brightness, reduce it to around 60% and you will archieve the best image quality possible on the PSVR2.
This makes me super happy for the PSVR 2, its now going to get the love it deserved, and open up another audience, which grows VR, which makes more games. Win win for everyone.
The PSVR2 just became the best PCVR headset for under $1600, even at its full retail price its a PCVR bargain, you can all replace your Valve Index's and Reverb G2s now, a worthy successor has arrived and its got OLED displays, a nice FOV and Display Port Technology none of that compressed video streaming nonsense.
No
The Quest 3 is easily better than all of those. Video streaming compression can be a non-issue as long as you have a good router. Oled is vastly overrated in the psvr2 because it actually harms motion clarity (persistence is too high unless you dim the brightness)
PCL is better still in my opinion and it’s only $799. But still PSVR2 is a much better value. I own both but haven’t tried the psvr2 on my 4090 yet.
@@Wobbothe3rd 😭
@@Wobbothe3rdsome people never understanding anything because they don't have money to try something.
I bought this headset last week for $350 and just ordered the adapter today simply to have it for dark games. The price was excellent
Where did you order it from? I've checked around and those who have it listed show it's unavailable, probably out of stock.. got the headset on sale last week. But now it looks like I'll have to wait on more PC adapter stock..
I've been waiting so long to play HLA in an OLED headset because this game has some truly amazing dark and light areas where OLED is going to be absolutely breathtaking
I am probably replaying HLA for a third time on this headset.
This is a huge win for PSVR2. Great video!
The light sealing on the PSVR2 is better than my Quest 3.
Yeah!
But the cord is a deal breaker
PSVR 2 on PC is where it’s at for the serious VR gamer. Quest 3 is where it’s at for mixed reality fun.
@@stivtonev165 You can't get the same quality video without cord.
The Quest 3 can also connect with a cord
Smearing, or image persistence is expected on OLED panels. The best way to reduce it is actually to decrease the brightness. It will have bigger impact on smearing than refresh rate.
Black smearing will be there regardless of brightness. This is because I takes more time for a black pixel to turn on in an oled display. But I personally don't mind it.
decreasing the PSVR2's VR brightness slider dial down to 0 gives you a 2ms motion persistence at only 60 nits. :P
Quest 3 has zero motion blur(1ms motion persistence or possibly less) at 85 nits. the 25 bump in nits actually makes quite the difference, and because there's no motion blur the motion clarity is like a frikkin CRT. ;)
PSVR2's HDR is a total double edged sword. You can't get good motion clarity with high HDR brightness. SDR is the way to fly for now. It's frustrating. Quest 3 has that 'looking through a window' pancake clarity, WIDE sweet spot, no god rays, no motion blur, minimal glare & Higher SDR brightness, but PSVR2 has the deeper blacks(by a land slide), richer vibrant colours and I'm guessing zero image compression when connected to PC due to the display port?
Cool!
@@NintenZoid84 explain to me how and lcd panel can beat an oled panel in motion and persistence? This is litterally impossible from a panel techs perspective, that's why 120hz/240hz oled pc monitors are way better than even super high lcd refresh monitors
@@Neosin1 The Q3's LCD is using some form of black frame insertion, plus a brighter LCD(I think) which trades gobs of Brightness in SDR for amazing CRT-like BFI that gets it down to less than a 1ms motion persistence, which means zero motion blur.
Sony's PSVR2 OLED can reach as low as 2ms once the VR brightness slider is lowered to zero. Motion clarity looks really good(Not as good as Q3's mind you, but close), but then you're stuck with only 65nits brightness. Q3 has 85 nits with 'zero' motion blur. PSVR2 has great blacks & colours, but Q3 has a sharper/clearer image(Thanks to pancake lenses), a wide sweet spot, no motion blur @85 nits in SDR, no god rays, no mura, less glare and slightly higher resolution.
But ya, 120hz/fps on an OLED TV removes 50% of OLED motion blur, and 240hz monitors remove 75%. Quest 3 has less motion blur than even 240hz OLED monitors. :P It's basically a CRT. I've got both head sets btw.
Q3 rectifies it's tablet power when hooked up to a beefy PC, but i still hate it's black levels and colours! :P Maybe if if only it had a QD-LCD display with local dimming. Micro-OLED however is too expensive for consumer budget VR headsets at this point unfortunately.
Big respect for making this video.
I would use room scale even if youre sat down, so that you dont get the boundary showing up when u stretch out.
Like you said, mura is only a distraction if you choose to focus on it. If you focus on the game world instead of the pixels, u really dont see it, and the colours and contrast is definitely worth the trade off imo
It sounds like even at the normal full price its a better PC choice than many other headsets which cost more than twice that full price
It's nice to see another PRVR2 fan. Sony definitely did a good move with releasing the adapter.
That had no choice if they wanted this failure to have some worth
@@BlujusticeVR Well, wouldn't call over 7 million units sold of a $550 PS5 peripheral a failure. But to your point it's like Sony thinks these things will sale themselves, as they have had zero push for the thing after launch as far as games are considered. I think this was the plan along. I don't think they know what kind of games VR players want. It being on PC will give them insight.
@@blackrahk2037 Most analysts have it at around 1 million sold
@blackrahk2037 in reality pc still only has like 20 games or less fully fledge out VR games so it's not like it's going to help them at all, and dont go saying that uvr thing because thats still a mess to use, they would have better luck porting all psvr games over to the 2 and make full games to release out of ports like cyberpunk, alien isolation, fallout 4 but they didn't even attempt, you think going to PC is going to help it grow, this will be popular for about a month and people will still end up going to meta or big screen, meta unfortunately is the only one with acquired studios for actual full games besides a select few on PC. The same people complaining about not wanting it because its meta because data security are the same people that downloaded TikTok,Just because it sold 7mil don't mean it's has 7mil users lol. More then half are still unused just like mine. But at the end of the day to each their own. If it makes you happy that's all that matters, well besides the facts lol
@@BlujusticeVRPoint of order, I don't want Meta OR TikTok spying on me.
I also own more than 20 VR games on Windows.
You are, in fact, just making crap up.
I'd love to see CyberPunk2077 through-the-lens
This plz!
Yes pliss use ps vr2 on Luke Ross VR Mod and on UEVR Pray Dog pliss
You can with a mod
I love it.
@@mixedrealityTV Seb which Bluetooth dongle please. 😁
The things that i really like about the PSVR2 headsets over my two PCVR headsets is the colors, brightness and black levels.
as a person who owns q3 and psvr2....i dont see much difference. psvr2 contrast is often destroyed by mura and q3 can get a gigantic colour boost when using VD
@@betonman9 The mura doesn't bother me when im concentrating on the actual gameplay. The black levels you get in the Resident Evil games on PS5 for example makes them a lot more scary and claustrophobic than a LCD panel is capable of(unless it was vs a LCD VR headset capable of great local dimming, but those are really expansive ).
I still have the Oculus CV1 which is also oled. Its still a god headset for workout games but it got quite a lot of godrays in very dark scenes. If its godrays vs mura i would pick mura over godrays in dark scenes any day.
Im not saying you are wrong though as some get annoyed by some of the PSVR2 flaws while some can look past it. Very few VR headsets are flawless though IMO.
I also enjoy GT7 even on its brightest settings in PSVR2 if im concentrating on the gameplay instead of looking for problems/annoyances.
i always felt that the contrast and brightness was a bit too low in my HP Reverb for sim racing so im looking forwards using the PSVR2 in sim racing games and games like Half Life Alyx that will be improved IMO with increased black levels.
I have no plans to get a Quest 3 yet, but im sure i would enjoy that headset too for different reasons and different type of games. It`s good to hear its possible to boost some good colors in the Q3 headset.
im not sure what VD means but does the majority of games support VD natively in the built in processor and on PCVR with Quest 3 ?
There's no HDR support when using a PSVR2 with a PC so I imagine the brightness isn't nearly as good on PC
Damn, this is good. I'm a console player, and the setup gives me anxiety - you make it look so easy, but for a non-PC person ... I have a reasonably-specced PC, and I might get a friend who is PC-tech savvy to set up my VR2 adapter
I'm pleased to see a positive review of the VR2 from a PC person. The sales of the unit will get a boost and this can only be a good thing for all VR enthusiasts. I can't wait to play some PC-based titles.
The Mura bugged me for the first 10 minutes and I hated it… but then my mind just started to ignore it. Now I have to force myself to see it again.
Mura has always been the pain in my ass. It's too obvious for most time. And I just couldn't ignore it.
Thats generally what happens for most people.
Do you mean the moire effect?
@@SomeoneNamedJohn It's kinda like that but ultimately it has to do with the screens. Mira kinda looks like screen door to me. I don't really notice it of course you can see it sometimes. The only time I have seen it is when its a super dark loading screen otherwise I don't ever see it when playing. granted not much a horror type but I do play re games or dark shooters.
I'm an editor. I can tell at speed if two blacks butt against each other in a cut. Mura is one of the things keeping me from getting PSVR2. ANY visual discrepancies drive me nuts LOL. Happy for you though! I'll get one eventually and find out how much it drives me crazy.
just played arizone sunshine 2 and my modded skyrim, boy o boy is this something
PSVR2 ftw
Damn it LOOKS fucking good using the Playstation PSVR2 adapter on PC! Also, the rumble is beyond good enough out the gates. Thank you Sebastian and Voodoo De for doing the leg work for tracking worries/issues from day 1! Keep it up guys
FINALLY something worth getting as a replacement for the OG Oddyssey WMR
I already have a PC and the PSVR2. I just found where to buy the PSVR2 pc adapter, but it's sold out! I really hope it comes back soon.
Amazon maybe?
Sony knows how many units of PSVR2've sold last week. I am sure they are making a good margin on this adapter. There will be a lot more coming. It probably cost them less than $10 to make.
@@adink6486 I reckon Sony are having to think of some corporate spin on why they didn't release PSVR2 with a PC adapter in the first place - it looks like they would have cleaned up the PCVR market instead of having inventory sitting on their shelves.
Please do try with Elite dangerous and comment. It must be insane for space sims, watching all those stars with the pure black of the oleds. With the built in cable power for long vr sessions it might just be the best VR headset now for those kind of sims.
Only if they got this pcvr functionality out there for $350 before Quest 3 released. I myself would've gone for it over Quest 3 (which I have). Stick to Quest 2 for standalone and pcvr non-seated multiplayer (wireless advantage), get PSVR2 for pcvr single player and seated multiplayer plus movies/TV shows, then eventually get Quest 3S to replace Quest 2. Maybe even buy a second hand ps5 to play psvr2 games before I get the 3S.
Yea I’m sticking with the g2 until the quest 3s comes out then I’ll get both it and psvr2 so I can play all the exclusives
I sold my psvr2, got the oculus 3. Not having the cord is way, way better
No issues here with the bluetooth pairing. Run smooth, tracking was fine.
PsVR2 is awesome, I’ve just bought a 2nd VR2 for pc .
Well worth the investment
I like you.
Racing games please
I wish you could try GT7. OMG. I have a PS5, but don't think it can be played on PC? Excuse my ignorance.
Yeh but all we get here is WOW... OH WOW.. on dumbshit games
Awesome! I missed the sale as I have a Quest 3 and couldn't pull the trigger before seeing more reviews. I will continue to watch more review feedback on it and if it goes on sale for $350 again, I'll grab it.
Shoutout for the Globular Cluster comfort mod for the PSVR2! It makes a world of difference, increasing both comfort and sturdiness.
Yes!
Thanks for this review!
I was wondering if I should pull the trigger on Crystal Light (while some reviews are like "meh, its not that great step forward") while I already have PSVR2. And thanks to you it seems like Ill just get the adapter, and wait for some new headset that will surpass PSVR2 greatly (like Crystal Super perhaps when it would be actually released).
Also, did you tried any simracing games?
I love this. Gonna scoop asap. Even the breakout box - can place it up front on my desk and easily unplug the headset when not in use without reaching around back. Dope
@@Collinormous yes!
Thanks for this. I hope that sale comes back. I have a Quest 3 but would love native display port and no Meta/FB data mining. Just a straight Steam VR headset that is OLED and for funzies I can use it to play those PS5 exclusive game(s).
That's exactly what I'm doing with mine (had it on PS5 since launch and love it), PSVR2 has replaced all my old PCVR hmds (last one being Quest Pro). OLED is the only way for me.
That little pet with the green light is called a Snark, btw :)
I thought they were called cutie patooties
Got my Amazon order in. They sold out in 40 minutes!
Of course it sold out people were waiting to put this garbage headset to some worth finally!
@@BlujusticeVRactually best headset for its price, its only disadvantage was… ps5
@boenk3742 actually the only disadvantages were lack of user interface, social experiences, media usage, mura infestation, dated lenses that oled screens can't even save, uncomfortable to wear, ugly dated tracking rings, and features like haptics, eye tracking that won't even work unless playing games on the ps5. But sure if it makes you happy, my quest 3 over my lame arse psvr2 anyday.
@boenk3742 forgot to mention tiny sweet spot that forces you to adjust the headset ever few minutes, with a small FOV that gets hit with constant god rays due to the dated lenses
@@BlujusticeVRhow do you not have anything better to do?
This video just made me super pumped as both a PSVR2 and Q3 owner
Great
love this!!! great way for sony to really show off what the headset is capable of!! Which means people will be pumped for the ps5pro when its drops soon as that extra computing power will mean even better visuals!! Especially with DFR !! hopefully all the sony exclusives get 90hz native support!! imagine RE and GT7 and Horizon running native!!!! good times for VR
I'm buying PS5 PRO day specifically to go with my PSVR2 (I also use it on my VR PC). Yes GT7 enhanced for pro is worth the cost of admission for me personally. And I love all the extras you get on PS5 + the low friction.
Just wanted to say I go my Hons VR lenses recently. I had to special order mine because my prescription has prism measurements in it. My Optrician said I should get lenses with prism in it if I can find them as my vision will be MUCH sharper in the headset. Hons VR made it very easy to special order using their virtual assistant. They built a special order for me, sent me a link to it right in the chat and I clicked, paid, and then received them only less than two weeks longer than normal. I use my PSVR2 way more now. Glad they are sponsoring your videos!
They are great!
we kept telling you you were wrong haha
They should have it in the psvr2 box from here on out.
Keep dreaming 🤣🤣😅 thats no gonna happen
@@Kelvin-w6s lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruh sounds like people in 2020 saying PSVR1 would never get the adapter included.
For those unaware Sony does include the adapter for PSVR use in the box after PS5 launch and the ones with no adapter were phased out.
@Nynex I wouldn't be surprised if there's a packaging revision or a V2 that will include this adapter much like PSVR1 did after the PS5 launched where they started to include the adapter in the packaging.
Excuse the pun . But for the headset price this is a game changer. Going to be buying this . Sony hit a home run. Bout time.
A few steps he left out during setup. First you must click your heels 3 times, then contact NASA for a launch code, reverse the worm hole effect by a coefficient of + or - no more or no less than 18% of the leading edge refraction rate. Simply retract the included digital antenna/Giger counter to a contiguous fratistat to 90% from dead center. After that it's pretty smooth sailing provided you have already used a, sold separately, spatial gravitas motion deregulator for unseen fluorescent interference. There you have it. So you can now enjoy the upwards of 6 games that "Kinda" support this Headset a little. Cheers!
Not surprisingly, they're already sold out before they got available. Gonna have to wait, and I'm in no hurry. I already have Quest 3 for my PCVR need and my PSVR2 for my PS5.
@fionnmaccuill415 My EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra doesn't have any.
i was about to sell my psvr2 then they announced that this box would come out and make it playable on PC. i'm glad i waited to see how good it is so i'm now probably getting this.
Great, I have the headset, and I was very happy to hear that an adapter for the PC has been officially dropped.
I bought the adapter as soon as I realized it was August 7th, and, though I already have a Bluetooth adapter, I went ahead and bought one of the dongles Sony recommended, just in case.
Hope you're going to try MSFS in the headset, naturally. I'd like to hear your views on how the PSVR2's OLED enhances (or not) the experience.
Great video, Sebastian. Thanks for removing a lot of potential PSVR2 fans' doubt.
Please try some simulators, specially AC. Also please check if OpenXR/OpenComposite will work.
The headset is fairly close to being steamVR native, so openXR will work via steam VR's openXR.
I've never gotten open composite to work on steamVR's openXR
I've also noticed that mura is less prevalent on pc. I can see it only in super dark areas like very dark greyish tones. The headset surprised me so much it's great. I wanted to buy quest 3 for pcvr but now i'm not (I've had the psvr2 since launch. The displayport clean image + oled colors makes it a great deal. Plus its super light so no neck strain and you can play for hours.
Im building a new PC just for my PSVR2 on PC. I love it on PS5 but it was time to upgrade my old ass PC anyways 😅
i just need to pick up a 3060 but I'm still working through my PSVR2 backlog so no hurry😂
It actually makes sense to exclude the displayport cable and bluetooth radio from the bundle. People tend to have spare cables, so if you get another one with this, that's one more cable in the drawer. As for bluetooth, it comes standard now on all laptops and wifi-having motheroards.
Thanks for the video .
That all sounds great - all we need now is someone to produce some software for haptics in the headset and maybe foveated rendering and a wireless adaptor .
Thank you for the Affiliate links, I just ordered mine! They were in stock at Amazon Germany, and it was only about $17 (US) dollars more wich included shipping. Much more cheaper than they are selling for now online, with almost a 3x mark up price by the resellers. I just have to wait 2 weeks to get it... lol 😂
What are those headphones on the headset? I'm excited to try out PSVR2 on PC!
Edit: Found in the comments they're Globular Cluster PH2 headphones.
I recently got the vr2 while it was on sale for $350 in the US. It's not so appealing at its full price but It is amazing for GT on the ps5. Like I cannot play GT on a flat monitor anymore. It's that amazing. Im looking forward to getting the adaptor for pc but sony really hasnt made it available outside of their sony direct site.
Into the radius 1 or 2 in the dark areas I'd love to see through the lens....my q3's lcd panels make it kinda all grey and I can't wait to try it on the psvr2!
I heard that reducing brightness to 70% completely fixes the mura by the way.
i see it on every brightness setting... But i am a clarity addict so i have the quest 3 and had the orginal pimax crystal.. But after playing many games now i prefer the psvr2 with the pc adapter.. even with the short comings,like mura, small sweetspot,soft image... And i like the rumble in the controllers..I have a wow feeling again when i got my old oculus cv1.. And offcourse the insane brightness and blacks and colors
It would not make sense to put BT into the adapter due to how BT works. There would be less flexibility with it and interference from other wired and wireless devices can affect it. The adapter is not only PSVR2 adapter but an adapter for all VR headsets that rely on virtuallink connection.
The Bluetooth in my laptop works perfectly and I am sure many others have the same situation. Would be a waste of money to include it for everyone and could cause issues for some that the integrated works perfectly already.
@@BartCunningham Interference by other devices is the biggest issue here. And instruction itself tells to keep BT dongle far away from the adapter for this very reason.
@@kordelas2514 That doesn't change the fact that the built-in adapter will probably work fine for most people. That would just leave us with a piece of hardware we paid for but don't need.
@@BartCunningham It seems that you do not understand how BT works. Interference from cables and wired/wireless devices is the real thing.
@@kordelas2514 I understand how it works perfectly. I am a network engineer/administrator and have been doing this stuff since before Bluetooth even existed. If you have issues or don't have a good Bluetooth adapter then yes you need one. If the integrated one works well don't muck it up by adding even more things to cause interference and problems!
well, they just sold me on it. Letting it work on PC put it at the top of my list as someone who has never had a VR. Looking forward to finally try the HL game.
That is an awesome video thank you 🙏 😊 does the PSVR 2 work for 3D blu rays and 3D video files on PC using the adapter? 🙏 😊
Yes, using Virtual Desktop or Bigscreen VR.
I was seriously disappointed when the PS5 launched with no 3D Blu-ray support. Based on the comment above I am happy to see that the headset has support
Thank you that sounds awesome what is the quality for 3D blu rays in the PSVR2 like in comparison to the PSVR1 please 🙏 ❤ 😊 😍
@@BigPoppa895
I don't have PSVR 1 or 2 but the quality would be better because of the Oled screen and much higher resolution.
So happy. I bought a PSVR2 day one and hadn't used it much. But now I can connect it to my PC and play my VR games there. Plus i have a 20 series GPU so i don't even need an adapter. Plugs straight in
I'd love to see Dirt Rally 2.0, Automobilista 2 and iRacing for racing sims.
Dirt rally supports motion sims, also has a mod for b haptics.
Meta needs to give us an options you know like Steam Deck. Quest 3 LCD or Quest 3 OLED that would be nice. As much as I love my Quest 3 I find it not bright enough. It's like everything is so murky and muddy.
I love it sadly I have BT issues, my right hand gets stuck every few mins 😢
Then I guess my suspicions were confirmed. This is the G2 replacement I've been waiting for for my flight sim cockpit!
I hope to see through-the-lense of MSFS at night, Elite Dangerous and maybe Star Wars Squadrons?
instant buy for 59 eu , nice video
Not surprised that the bluetooth issue turned out to be a non issue. It was one youtuber who seemed to lack a lot of knowledge about bluetooth. I'm surprised how many people was complaining about needing bluetooth. It's 2024 people.
Question is though how does it compare to a Q3? Wireless Virtual Desktop 500 bitrate H.264 (200 bitrate AV1) or the Link cable 960 bitrate vs the Display Port on the PSVR2?
When I was disappointed that it needed a adapter I realized I have a virtual link graphics card that saved me 60$
sorry , what is virtual link? can you use psvr2 on PC without the adapters?
@@VadimZverevyou dont need it if your graphic card already support virtual link like the rtx 20** series. It was discontinued with the 30** series. Some other graphic cards of other companies also support.
@@lordfuniku7972I have 3080 what a bummer
@@rashonkelly3598 I mean.. not really. Sure, you need an adapter, but you'll be able to play with better performance
Even worse I must be the only one with an rtx 2080 super that hasn't got it
Also smartsmoothing works great with the psvr2,just played the forest at 120hz and smartsmooting enabled... just so fluid... And wow the moon at night is stunning!!
How does it compare to the Samsung Odyssey, Odyssey + or Quest Pro? I do want a great OLED or local dimming headset but under $500 and I saw some used Quest Pros for $400-$500 now. I loved the Odysseys when I had them and I don't think they had mura. Did you ever try the Odyssey at 200-250% RR? I wonder if it would help it look better. The only downside of the Odysseys was the controller tracking to me.
sold my quest pro last week can confirm it is much better on the psvr2, colors, fov, and immersion are all better in my opinion
I would also like to know this. My only headset has been a Samsung O+ and it was a very nice headset. I sold it at major discount to a friend with my old PC to try and hook him on PC gaming (and VR). Now, I don't have a headset, and I am looking for that magical one that basically does it all. I essentially want a Crystal, but built by someone like a Valve.
And what of the features I've heard don't work on PC, like HDR output, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, VR headset feedback, VR headset eye tracking, and headband vibration?
Better than Odyssey. Because of resolution, but it has more Mura.
I like to touch the floor in a few places to make sure the ground lines up better
PCVR is the future.
3ft Displayport 1.4 cable on Amazon was $10...
Link please! Also is it compatible with the psvr2 adapter?
Yeah, I was confused why he kept talking about how expensive the cable is
@@Les_Burris I see the Amazon basic 1.4 display cable is 7 bucks at the moment. I wonder if that's the right cable to get?
I can confirm my $10 Cable Matters cable works great!
I bought a USB-C to DisplayPort cable for $9.99 on Amazon and it works great.
I need to find an adapter. OLED Alyx has to be impressive. Maybe sample it up a bit. Can't wait 👏
Great Job!
I'm in the US the adapter sold out overnight even from PSstore.. Glad I saw your video and affiliate link !! Bought it from there for $80 US with shipping . Now just have to wait till the 20th for delivery .
Nice to hear a glowing review. The meta fans really have it out for PSVR2 these days, it seems.
And Xbox fanboys
I don't I have the q3, reverb g2v2 and the psvr 1 and 2 and every quest that came out loll
2017: "hey, you like VR too?? cool!!"
2024: "you chose the wrong headset?? you deserve to be killed"
@@rodriguezkev I love the xbox, have always preferred it over the playstation. But I also love VR, and I hate xbox for never considering it. I'm just really happy more people can play PCVR games! No matter who made the headset :D Sony have done something really good here :) I would love to see them enable the extra features on the headset for pc though. also the bluetooth being in the adapter would've been real nice
You have it backwards. Quest has already won and is totally dominant in vr because its objectively better. Sony fanboys are defensive as they always are, not just for VR but about anything Sony does in general.
I bought my PSVR2 on the first release, paid full price. I never use it anymore or the PS5 for that matter. I've got a water cooled 4080 and a 7800X3D, so yes I'll be buying the adapter.
I think the direct competitor of PSVR2 PC is the Quest 3. I owned a Quest 3 and I also have a PSVR2 $350 ready to be picked up. Is the display port and oled screen thing really worth it over the Quest 3's pancake lenses and technologies.
If you already have a Quest 3 keep it but if you're buying a new headset definitely go rock that PSVR 2 you cannot beat that 260+ nit OLED display and a direct DisplayPort connection
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They're not competitors. PSVR2 uses a cable, Quest 3 has wireless and standalone capability. PS2VR's closest competitors are other cabled PCVR headsets.
They do different things well. PSVR2 has OLED panels and a wired connection but Quest 3 has pancake lenses which are better than the Fresnel lenses in the PSVR2. Anyone who thinks Fresnel is better, no it's not, that's the same lenses that the Quest 2 has. Quest 3's other strengths are wireless gaming (so better for fitness games where freedom of movement is important) and has mixed reality (MR) content.
It will be a matter of preference.
Both are better or worse than the other in a few areas
I thoroughly enjoy my PSVR2 on PS5 and now on steam! Everything connects and works well with little issue. The BIGGEST downside, is everytime I connect the controllers to my PC, I have to reconnect back to my PS5 through adding a device. And vice versa which is just a pain. It is like the controllers can only pair properly with one device at a time.
Try the dark enviroments of into the radius 2 and phasmophobia.
i think you get really big godrayses in phasmophobia
I’m loving the PSVR2 love
You should title the video: "how to make your subscribers dizzy"
This is really exciting! Definitely ordering this! Thanks Sebastian
Your are welcome!
OLED forever, who cares if LCD has couple more pixels..... by the way, "through the lens" it's not fair towards OLED headsets, colors and contrast doesn't show correct on youtube, because in reality LCD headset screens are so foggy and washed out in comparison
OLED is better in some situations, but OLED panels are not compatible with pancake lenses, which are much clearer, so reading text is better on pancake. PSVR2 uses Fresnel (same as Quest 2).
@@acurisur I'm ok with slightly less clarity, 🙂maybe oled will improve that too in future
Ya, i found that I prefer OLED in VR even with its downsides of mura and motion persistence.
LCD just looks so flat and washed out in comparison, and my mind can ignore the VR OLED problems just fine while I can never unsee the downside of LCD as the whole image just doesn't look nearly as good.
I would take either but I prefer OLED
@@urania3333 OLED won't improve that as it's to do with the lenses. OLED is a panel technology and has nothing to do with the lenses. Mini LED with Pancake lenses would produce better text clarity than OLED while still having better contrast than normal LED.
@@acurisur I even bought a Crystal, and a part for poor performance even with a 4080, small fov, heavy headset and with full local dimming blacks are still grey.... didn't liked it and refunded, believe it or not I prefer my Rift cv1 :)
PSVR3 should have this all built in and just come with a usb wireless dongle for the ps5/6 or pc/mac
the psvr1 was a simpler setup 😅
highly unlikely it will ever be made. Only reason PSVR 2 got PC support is because they made 2 million of them and hundreds of thousand left unsold in warehouses.
The PC VR adaptor should come in the new PS VR2 product box as standard. The mark up on the 60 USD adaptor is probably ridiculous.
@@gogreengameon2146 No thanks
@gogreengameon2146 if you don't want to pay 60 for the ps version you can always go spend 150 on third party virtual link adapter.
@@blabla1177-r7u PS VR3 will be made, probably a year into the PS6 life cycle and it will have micro Oled display. VR is in steady growth and it's only gonna get bigger and bigger, Sony literally has a whole VR market all for them self consisting of over 50 million potential buyers
Try turning the brightness down for less mura and clearer motion.
Because we're not in HDR it seems you can lower the brightness significantly while still keeping a nice contrast.
all the quest fanboys hurt seeing everyone realize the psvr2 is better 😂
I don’t get it,I have a Quest 3 but I’m not a fanboy either.the Quest 3 will give me everything I need and I can’t hate on Sony.Sony has made my go to console since PS2.PSVR1 was my first headset,even though it had its downfalls,I still got a lot of fun out of it.I want to see VR moving forward in general..this was definitely a good move for Sony
Yeah right, I have a PS5, so do all my friends and none of us bought a PSVR2. It sold 600k on PS5, that's peanuts.
@@acurisur so u don’t even have one lmao ridin the inferior quest wave nice
@@acurisur It sold 600K _in the first 6 weeks._
@@acurisurI have a PS5 and picked up a PS VR2 day one as well as several of my friends. We are all very happy with it.
Great review! Made me consider getting one for GT7 (PS5) and Alyx (PC) alone.
About the PSVR2 Mic on OBS... I honestly couldn't tell a difference through my laptop's speakers. That's got to be a testament to PSVR's high quality
You will love GT7 and Alyx. Go for it, you absolutely got my blessing!
I called it. A PS5 can't drive this headset to its full potential. I knew as soon as the PC adapter is out in the wild, folks would (literally) begin to see the light
Now we just need GT7 on PC, that game suffers so much in VR being on the PS5.
I mean, using eye tracking, many devs say ps5 out performs high end pc rigs, eg with no man's sky. Its best on ps5.
Not to mention the added function of head haptics.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to seeing how many games utilise a ps5 Pro patch to further boost performance.
@@shenmeowzo Eye-tracking and DFR are great and I'm glad Sony worked on it, but it only nets around 30-40% gains in real world scenario. Which is still great! But apples-to-apples, going from a PS5 to a 4090 is more like a 200-300% increase in raw rasterization power. And that's not really a fair comparison because a 4090 is a $2500 GPU, but the point is, how we define "PC" is a very broad benchmark depending on one's budget
The PS5 drives it just fine. That foveated eye tracked rendering really helps it.
So other than the big AAA games that can't reach a native 90 on the PS5, no matter the tricks and optimization, it's very comparable to higher end PC VR.
Though I am very excited about this adapter. I got one ordered.
I happen to have built my first PC recently, and now that I'll be able to use my headset on PC, too, I'll get a lot more use out of it.
I assume Sony made this adapter to help sell off more of their VR stock since they didn't sell well. And I'm all for it. Now , I can use it on both platforms. I think it's gonna be primarily a PC headset for me now, way larger library and options
@@sawdust8691 I mean this in a good way, the experience on PC (with a 4090, specifically) is going to be leaps and bounds better than what the console can do. And again, like my previous comment, there's nothing wrong with that and it should be expected that a $2,500 GPU is going to significantly outperform a $399 console. The PS5 is an excellent value proposition and I love mine. But I am also extremely excited to see what the headset can do with a 4090, regardless of DFR. Specifically -- a PS5 is roughly on par with a RTX 2070 or 3060 in terms of real-world performance, factoring in console optimization. DFR offers gains of around 30-40%. A 4090 outperforms a 2070 by 250% - 320%.
Sebastian, hello :) I don’t seem to be a person driven by advertising, but in this case, you “infected” me (in the good sense of the word) with the desire to become the owner of this adapter. Moreover, knowing your correct, unvarnished attitude towards Psvr2, your emotions and impressions fuel interest and give rise to a smile :) Moreover, I have Quest 3 and Psvr 2. As I understand it, Steam automatically set such a high resolution to 150%?
Have you disabled dynamic resolution in HL Alyx? You can set the settings in the shortcut there and the picture will be more constant.
I am glad I could make you feel like this! I will if course try many more games...but I tell you: buy this adapter! :)
@@mixedrealityTVIt turns out that Psvr2 works with PC and without Psvr 2 adapter, if there is Virtual link (for example, I have 2080ti), only Bluetooth dongle or built-in Motherboard is needed. Sebastian, can you do a similar test with and without adapter, I wonder if there is a difference in image quality? I don't have the right Bluetooth version yet, but of course I'll try.
@@mixedrealityTVIt would be interesting to see tests/comparisons, with and without the Psvr 2 adapter. I wonder if there will be a difference in image quality. I am interested in the following: the Psvr 2 adapter connects to the PC via Display port, and then we connect the Psvr 2 headset to the USB type c port on the adapter itself. And the question arises, is there a difference? Maybe the adapter gives a better image or there is no difference at all?
I've had Rift, Rift S, Quest 2 and I now use Reverb G2. I'm currently looking for a used PSVR2 to make the switch.
Yes, 2nd hand psvr2 is a good idea. But Mura will be shocking first.
Excellent. Agree with your points. If you could show the new Riven remake on these, that would be awesome. Also, The 7th Guest remake would be great. TY.
Thanks for the initial review!
My adapter arrives tomorrow and it's great to see it does not disappoint.
Can I ask you what headphones you have clipped onto the headset there? I plan to use my playstation headphones with the pc but it might be good to have a separate set for PCVR.
Thanks, look forward to seeing more reviews.
Yes! Globular Cluster headphones for the PSVR2! They are great!
Yeah, I can't say I'm interested. Even before the PSVR2 launched, I was advocating for it coming to PC - as I had really intended to buy a PS5 at some point and wanted the device to pull double-duty rather than having to buy multiple headsets for multiple platforms. But... there's just no games for the PS5, so it kills half the value proposition for me, and I already have a comparable experience on my Reverb G2. Then there's the other downsides like the mura, which really bothers me - thanks in part to a lot of time spent in the PSVR1 - and not having an onboard audio solution. Ideally off-ear speakers like the Reverb and Index have.
So, since it looks like I'm never getting a PS5 due to it being a complete game desert - I think I'll see how much longer my Reverb holds out and then buy a Pimax Crystal Light. Which is a stupid name, by the way. Might as well have called it the Pimax Tang.
Hello thank you. Really awesome ps VR 2 one of the best ensuring.
Hello Seb. Thanks for review... But can i ask u, which speakers are u use on PSVR2? Thanks David
Sure, it's the Globular Cluster speakers for psvr2. They are great!
Mention the sensibility in the finger tracking in the controllers please!
Thank you for a good review! This might actually replace my Rift S - it really ticks all of my boxes.
Out of curiosity, were you able to fix the microphone clipping? The mic sounds pretty awful in HL:Alyx, but it also sounds like the gain was set too high. Hopefully tweaking the settings can fix that?