YES! The Playstation VR 2 PCVR Adapter is HERE. But... There is a CATCH...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- We finally have a big update! We finally know now how the connection is going to work, and what to expect from it!
So let's go through all the details in this video and let's learn how to use PSVR2 on PC, but is there even a point?
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What is even the point then if you take out everything that made the headset special?
Only thing i can think of is Oled screen and Uncompressed images. Also some people hate Meta to death so it might be a good option for those people XD
Tho im curious if these limitations are about the adapter or the fact that games and steam vr doesnt support some of these (like haptic feedback, triggers and hdr)
I think those options will come..also if you give a pc modder a challenge..they will make it happen under any circumstance. Lol
The reason they don't have it because of Laziness + greed. I dont think there is USB connection directly to PC. Correct me if I am wrong
The reason is that all those functions are game side. They can't be added by drivers. And because no game uses these functions Sony warns that they don't work. If they didn't at best it be dishonest, at worst false advertising.
Quite weird indeed. At first I thought that it could be a bandwith issue with display port but remember the whole PSVR2 thing works via USB on the PS5 (I don't know if compression is at place or they use a special protocol for data transfer there). The missing eye-tracking is a lack of software implementation it seems - so not enough effort went into that. Shame. Quite happy with my Quest 3 at the moment. I really can't think of going back from pancake lenses to fresnel lenses. But missing those important features the PSVR2 is just a mediocre headset for PCVR.
the loss of eye tracking is such a big hit in the face with this headset. i mean, the price of vr2 is still good, but it fells like you lose 250 bucks worth of features if you only use it on pc
Except this is NOT targeted for those kinds of people. This is targeted for people who are both interested in PS5 VR gaming AND PCVR gaming. Now with this adapter a person can so both, while with PCVR HMDs you can only play PCVR games. I own a PS5 and a gaming PC and now the PSVR2 is the clear choice for VR headset, since I can play both PS5VR games and PCVR games. It's very simple, it's not that complicated.
I think their argument is less about who it is targeted at and more about why remove specific pre-existing features when there is still plenty of use for them. The tech is already there why hamstring the device for potential customers.
not to mention my PSVR2 just lost $100 in value since they dropped the price. The lack of haptics, i get. But the eye tracking needs to be there.
Quest 3 doesn't have any of those features and cost $50 more.......
@@word2RGyour headset lost a lot more then $100 value when you opened the box lol
I'm so done with the clowns running sony.
It's clear they expect people to get the headset for pc, and then get a ps5 to use all its features. But they completely ignore the entire existing pcvr market, and that most pcvr users are deep into pc tinker culture.
Fortunately, now that Sony gave an existing interface, I fully expect that some moders will be able to hack it and unlock the headset full capabilities.
Right! I fully expected them to recode all games to the features of the PSVR2.
lol why would a bunch of pc games go back and add in features for 1 headset.
@ThatZenkiS14 the 2 most important features of the headset are HDR and eye tracking for fobiated rendering. Both of these features can work on the hardware level, with no need of developers doing anything.
They always pull shit like this. I will never forgive them for the Vita. Never.
@@Drn10n really? foveated rendering just works? eye tracking just works ? WTF does at the hardware level even mean? the hardware works but there is no software for it?
The point are people like me, i dont have any vr headset and was wondering wich to get because i have both ps5 and pc but didnt want to buy two headsets. Now i can go for psvr2 and use it on both ❤
yeah.. i jumped the gun on that one.. the psvr 2 is awesome.. but the controllers makes me worried.. the tracking is iffy with my unit and they dont make replacements..
I can understand haptic feedback and triggers as there’s no support on PCB, but eye tracking and hdr not being sorted sucks
Man. That price, albeit estimated, with the lack of features is heartbreaking. I was so excited to experience PCVR on such a powerful headset rather than the Quest 2 that I have, but it's become bittersweet. Hopefully, the community will create workarounds.
Yes, i have now decided to get the pimax light. 2880x2880 QLED 120Hz and DIRECT displayport connection. For the same price.
The lack of feature simply because SteamVR having none of it.
@@batterynerd8779 Same price?
I'll be selling my PSVR2 and buy a Quest 3.
@@batterynerd8779 Congrats, you just decided on an oversized paperweight. At that price, I would just go with a Bigscreen Beyond. Hope your sad ass is happy with the extra weight you have to carry for someone willing to throw away $900 (£709) like that, but you do you
As a psvr2 player this is an absolute win for me. I was planing on buying a pc this summer. It just worked out perfectly 😂
🤡🤡
Thats the point I think he was missing. Most owners of this headset are PS5 players, I dont think that will change.
So now if those people, already own or buy into PC gaming, they do not need to buy an additional VR headset and with compatibility over Steam library thats kinda cool.
PC VR headsets dont support the missing features neither so is it such a downer or surprise?
That’s awesome bro! I’ve been a PC gamer as well as PlayStation for a long time. I’ve also been an OG oculus rift user for many years. This is the perfect mix for me and exactly what I’ve been waiting for to pull the trigger on PSVR2. I am a bit disappointed at the missing features but I wholeheartedly believe they plan to add them in a later date.
Yea I have a ps5 and a pc with great specs and with this update I’m willing to buy the psvr2, I’ve been waiting for this.
The channel owner doesn't seem to think that deeply or has very short sighted logic. I'm also in the same boat and will finally play Half Life Alyx.
this is ridiculous, didnt expect them to half-ass it like that...they could've at least kept the hdr, they really went minimum effort on this one sadly
How do you want to add HDR to games that don't have HDR? Make a deal with M$ for autoHDR for PSVR2?
@@ForisTale and further:
- the only major game which supports ET would be VR Chat... and in terms of DFR: we as VR enthusiasts run graphics cards to max out the displays anyway
- adaptive triggers must be implemented in games - no PCVR game does
Not all PC games offer HDR and like the other features, the vast amount of titles were not all going to be updated/modified to benefit in supporting the PS5 specific features.
The adapters role is to bring PC support to the headset. NOT bring the headsets features to PC.
How is an option to play PCVR games a bad thing? If they didn't make this adapter we wouldn't be able to play PCVR games at all, is that better?
Why are so many braindead people whining about this news.
@@tigerex777so what about the eye tracking? I have a bigger problem with that, that alone makes this literal garbage.
i really hope someone will make a work around to enable the features back to some degree
I am afraid that lot of those features need to be implement to the games. Just my feeling..
Not HDR though @@joelf634
@@joelf634hdr is hdr. It will be everywhere. People who want Eye tracking are most likely vrchat users and vrchat will most likely implement this knowing them. And adaptive stuff, yeah true for that one
Well the key thing is the dfr rendering with the eye tracking with openxr, it makes plenty games work with it(not sure how many if not all lol, its just something i slightly know of) @@joelf634
@@joelf634 Eye-tracked DFR in particular does already work with a bunch of big-name games on PC, modded or otherwise.
Really, with all the stuff they've removed to have this working on PC VR, the only people that I expect this is for is people who already own a PS5 and PSVR2 headset, as well as a beefy PC, and simply want to have more VR games to play. I'm sure it will be a nice little bonus for those people. For everyone else, I think the Quest 3 is probably still the better option then, minus the OLED screen and non-compressed image, right.
In fairness that's how they're advertising it
So something to keep in mind, all those 'cut' features are probably things that need to be built into the game itself. This might just be their way of saying games that already exist won't have the special features of the headset.
It is!! The game developers have to put the language into the game. Then Steam or Sony would have to release like apps and drivers for the hardware, through updates.
I was waiting for this. It is disappointing 😔
I know... How to kill the excitement
I’ll get the adapter as I already own the PSVR2 and a ps5.
I believe that the reason they’re not doing the support for IT tracking foveated rendering and all of the haptics is because Sony opens those features to developers on the PS5. It’s up to the developer to utilize the haptics and the foveated rendering.
The support Sony would have to provide to teach the developers of those games in the steam library would be a massive time investment. Developers have already had a hard time getting used to the features of the PS VR2. This is the reason why certain games have received bad reviews and then get better reviews when they utilize the features of the PSVR2.
I would imagine Sony doesn’t want the blowback on them for the huge steam library that won’t be set up to use their haptics and foveated rendering.
I would also imagine that when Sony sees how well received the VR headset is for the PC base they will begin to allow those features on PCVR via patch.
I could also be very wrong and just puffing on Hopium.
steamvr already handles fov rendering with steam link on quest so its weird
Having the option there is all people want though, they don't need to offer any of the work of implementing it. It would be there for the few games that can use it now native or modded and it would be there for future games that will utilize it when it's a more common feature.
-For people who owns a PS5 and PSVR 2 are great, great news (especially if they already have a good pc), even without those features, because most of them they wouldn't be supported by the PC games, anyway.
-For people who owns only a PS5 , the headset may be more appealing now, (again especially if they already have a pc).
-For pc gamers... is just another option... but having more options, is never bad.
I wanted a PSVR2 for the HDR OLED displays despite the outdated lenses. Was waiting for PC compatibility to pick one up. Now that I know I have to spend an extra $60 for the adapter AND that HDR won't work (not to mention eye tracking), it's a no-sale for me. I'll stick to my Quest 3. I agree Ty -- what's the point?
Well that saved me a bunch of money. Was looking forward to eye tracking and the controller features. Even with the "downsides" like wired connection, or rings around controllers.
Really excited for this, but apprehensive because I don’t know how good my gaming laptop would be for VR streaming. Is it particularly demanding? Like compared to regular games?
That really sucks but I'm still quite interested in this headset if it really has uncompressed visuals. I am a 7 year pcvr gamer that still uses the Rift simply because it's the only affordable OLED pcvr headset(LCD just doesn't do it for me). I would love to get my hands on the Bigscreen Beyond but I could buy three psvr2's for the price of one Bigscreen Beyond since I don't already have lighthouses.
Also I could see modders probably hacking features like face tracking to work in the future.
I'm the same as you. I've had like 10 headsets now (Rift, Vive, Vive Pro, Quest 2, Pico 4, Reverb G2, Pimax, and more) and I cannot understand how all these clowns can tolerate LCD and compression. The amount of compression on USB headsets is actually disgusting, it makes everything unplayable. And the LCD displays make everything bleak and non-immersive. The Quest 2 is unusable.
I used my Rift from 2017 until 2022, but in 2022 I got a Vive Pro 1 and modded it with GearVR lenses and a custom headstrap+headphone combo. The VP1 is the only headset that beats my Rift, simply because of the higher resolution and better lenses without any other drawbacks.
I'm reaching a point where I'd like higher resolution, non-pentile displays, so I'm considering the Bigscreen Beyond. People often mention the glare and poor sweet spot of the Beyond, but my modded Vive Pro already suffers from both of those slightly (to be expected with a DIY 3D-printed lens mod), although it seems to be worse on the Beyond.
@@willwastaken Yeah, I tried the Vive Pro 1 in an arcade and it looked great. Wish I could have afforded it at the time when they still sold it new.
The first LCD hmd I bought was the Lenovo Explorer because it was cheap and I was curious about the higher resolution at the time. Boy was it awful. The colors were way less vibrant, you couldn't see details in dark areas anymore, the screen was dimmer, and it just felt more flat and less vr. The sweet spot was awful and don't get me started on the controllers and tracking.
The next one I got was the Samsung Odysee+ because it had oled and same resolution as the vive pro 1. The visuals looked great but it still had those WMR hmd issues like tiny sweet spot and awful tracking/controllers, plus it was the most uncomfortable headset I've used.
Then the Quest 1 came out and it actually had OLED and higher resolution than the Rift but because it didn't use a hdmi or displayport cable, the compression when playing pcvr stuff basically makes it look like an LCD screen. You'd think Meta would fix that but here we are years later with no uncompressed cable in sight for all their new Quests.
@@Vazz Yeah it's honestly hopeless at this point, I doubt we'll see any more innovation for a long time. You can still buy the VP1 for around $450 in some countries, and if you get a used Vive kit on eBay you'll have 2 base stations and controllers which is all you need.
I hated modding my VP1, felt like I was gonna break it, but I'm so glad I did it. It has easily replaced my Rift, and is quite a lot better in every regard except comfort and weight.
For people like me that dont have more options, i think this is very good
This better receive updates, the eye tracking was a huge part of why I and most people were excited for this, amongst all the other nurfed features, I fully expect modders to be on the scene and magically unlock the things that SONY “couldn’t” bring to PC
Agreed. With VR Chat and Resonite having support for eye tracking, this is honestly a kick in the nads for anyone wanting to enjoy that feature whenever not playing a VR game on the PS5.
Yeah, I’ll get the adapter since I already own a pc and psvr2. Was hoping eye tracking/FOV would be supported, but honestly, I can’t think of many PC VR games I play that support the feature natively. Maybe there will be some work arounds in the future to get some of these features added back in.
Well. That burst that bubble 😢 was going to get one to replace my G2. But alas, I guess it will have to be a Quest 3.
Although i would prefer a black headset. Less chance of the wife noticing 😂
I'll consider buying the adapter if modders are able to unlock the eye tracking features (which seems unlikely)
I really feel like they’re shooting themselves in the foot here
The whole idea is for Sony to prove that "If you want the best - buy all of our stuff". I was wondering about the idea of integrating their VR to PC and now it' all became clear - it's a marketing stunt with a sole purpose of making you buy the PS5.
Will video cards that already have the virtual link output, such as the RTX 2080ti, work with the PSVR2 without the need for an adapter? We even already have a driver available on Ivry's Steam, which claims to work with these cards, with the only problem being that it doesn't yet work with joysticks.
What is the point? Ride the hype and try to sell some more headsets early.
The best feature is the display. The OLED display makes nighttime racing and driving (or doing other dark games) a much better experience. The pentile diamond subpixel layout removes the aliasing and need for anti-aliasing or supersampling, where normal displays with a normal grid would need it as they prefer only perfectly horizontal or vertical lines (which never happens in games!!!).
After that, Sony can work to get the extra features working over time with driver/firmware updates, or maybe iVry or DSX can enable them down the road.
Lack of eye tracking is a deal breaker. That’s really its main advantage
Hi! can you tell me the name of the headphones attached to your PSVR2?
1) I hope Sony just half-assed the PR, with poorly translated misinformation.
2) I hope they didn't just cheap out on the adaptor and lose all the features by unsuccessfully separating the USB parts from the Video parts and giving insufficient bandwidth for HDR/ eye tracking etc.
3) I hope that openXR geniuses can get it working properly with the features intact.
Otherwise, what a massive miss, Sony. Ugh.
It would have made so much sense to properly support all features on PC. That way you can port your Sony PlayStation VR exclusives to PC fully intact (like synapse) and also give PC developers practise with DFR and eye tracking to create new experiences that can be easily ported back to PS5 players. The rising tide lifting all boats. If the PSVR2 is nerfed on PC you dont get any of that.
Dude, this is Sony. I fully expect all this was intentional to get people to buy a ps5. They have been handicapping their own products for decades before this headset and will continue to do so for as long as they can get away with it. I will never forgive them for the vita. Never.
Sold my PS5+VR2 but bought a used one just now for the Adapter - before it was officially announced! :D
I am excited to see what the PSVR2 can deliver with a powerful PC connected to it.
I was always looking for a native, wired backup to the Q3. I thought the Crystal Light is going to be it... but the PSVR2 might be the better choice! I hope Ill get one with less Mura than the two devices I previously had.
Those features are only available through the SDK, which i thought would be available (at the very least) on future games. This has me thinking current PS games on PC don’t use the SDK, meaning the PlayStation SDK is not available on windows machines. I guess that makes sense since Sony wants to keep their proprietary tools on their consoles.
I'd definitely consider it if all the features are available, or made available, but it doesn't really make sense without the eye and finger tracking.
I don't understand the point of the "adapter". Is it just a powered USB hub with Display Port? Or does it have some kind of proprietary hardware to translate Sony code? Guess we'll find out soon enough.
I imagine that HDR and eye tracking could be added by some enterprising people. The eye tracking can be very impressive to use and with the dynamic foveated rendering it really reduces the requirements of the system to provide great looking VR. We want all the features to work, so I hope this can be done.
Actually really excited for this. I'm curious to see what kind of video compression it uses over the cable. Since it says it needs DisplayPort 1.4 and goes over USB-C it should give us around 25.92Gbps data rate compared to the 2.1 Gbps the Quest 3 hits on average when connected with USB.
I was really disappointed when I tried to move from my Rift S to a Quest 3 (ended up returning) and noticed how everything had what looked like compression artifacting even when using a cable. I wasn't on a low end machine or even using the wireless connection either. For me physical connection will always be superior because of the reduced latency and cleaner picture. The PSVR2 OLED screens also seem like they will be pretty great (unless they suffer from smearing). Only real concern of mine is comfort as the Rift S with some mods (cotton facepad cover + counterweights) is still the most comfortable headset I've ever used.
What a fantastic video. THANK YOU! 🥇 The only upside of this HMD will be a minus £1000 proper PCVR headset, that doesn't require external lighthouses.
Loved how you confirmed that no PS5 was needed. As so any of us dont own one, nor ever would buy one. As we have VR PC rigs.
*And yes. 100% agree with every word.*
Why they left eye tracking out, especially as it has old-style fresnel lenses is a mystery. Harpic and HDR as well.. just why?? 🤔 Brill video. Looking forward to your launch review.
We need the eye tracking integration for this to be worth using on PC. It would then become a great PCVR headset but without that its just a Dated in terms of lense Thecnoligy headset. So honestly it hinges on that.
Hello just wondering if when using the PSVR2 your perceived sense of presence is higher than with other headsets do to the great colors it produces. Does the image feel more real to you?
The only reason to buy this headset is if you have a PS5 and PC
For the price you can get better PC headsets BUT the PSVR2 you get an AMAZING PS5 VR headset and an ok PC headset.
It's very good, I don't regret my purchase, but that's because I have a PS5 and the games look and play great!
good on making you buy the displayport 1.4 cable if you have a vr capable pc you already have one it came with your monitor
All the extras of the headset like feed back, eye tracking might be available in the future
Was super excited for this thing, but no eye tracking is a deal breaker for me. Hopefully that changes by launch, otherwise I'll be getting something else.
We knew this was going to happen, not surprised
I understand why eye tracking and adaptive triggers are proprietary tech and have to be specifically programmed on the games but why not HDR that’s a standard
I own a PS5, PS VR2, and a high-end PC. I was excited about the idea of using my PS VR2 on PC with the features it supports, but they have decided to provide a half-baked solution for PC that doesn't take advantage of any of the features that PS VR2 has to offer. My PS VR2 collects dust because the Quest 3 is a better product and offers a better overall experience, so I use that instead and rarely have a reason to play PS VR2. The only time I purchase a VR game on PS5 is when they offer PS VR2 adapter trigger support, so not having that on PC makes it completely pointless.
Just for reference, if you connect a PS5 controller to the PC you get adaptive trigger support for games that support it on console (E.G., Rainbow Six Siege). If you can do it with the PS5 controller without additional software Sony should be able to get the PS VR2 adaptive trigger support working on PC.
I was about to jump in on this to replace my ageing index...now I'm going to wait till you try it and see what else isn't there...bit disappointed to be honest..but nice job of the heads up Tyriel
The OLED display and 4K resolution are more than enough for me at $450. Plus the ability to use it on both PS5 and PC is such a novelty. I have faith that eye tracking and HDR will make it eventually, either through updates or modders like ivry
I will consider it. What games are showed ?
Many people don't seem to fully understand this: In my opinion, Sony does not intend to sell the PSVR2 to customers interested in PC VR. It looks to me like they want to give existing PSVR2 customers another way to play VR games. And let's be honest, even many PSVR2 games on the PS5 don't support features like eye-tracking or the special rumble feedback either.
That is correct, I'm fine with this. I just bought a motion simulator, now im going to buy a cat walk c2+. Add the b haptics and this is the pinnacle of gaming at present, at a semi affordable price.
@@VDVrEquipment get an Owo skin instead of b haptics
The only big bummer to me is that we won't be able to use eye-tracking on PC for dynamic foveated rendering aka free performance boost. I can live with all the missing features and will enjoy using my PS VR2 on PC immensely, but it's hard to believe they couldn't make those features accessible somehow. If it is possible, I hope they add those features over time or modders somehow make them work. But I'm skeptical.
@@BCBtheBeastlyBeast Those features would immediately make this the best pcvr headset option for most people. It's crazy to me that Sony isn't officially supporting them but I fully expect support for at least eye tracking to come eventually which is by far the most important one.
It's pretty cool that they made this possible at all. Also you should get that line on the nail of your left thumb checked out if you haven't already.
Indeed. Didn't expected it AT ALL! Better late than ever I guess.
Wow, if they can't AT LEAST get the eye tracking working for foveated rendering, then this is absolutely a no go for me. That is literally the ONLY reason I wanted this as a PCVR headset. What a serious let down.
Is it possible to use the adapter with PSVR2 to work with the Steam Deck running SteamOS?
The thought was honestly something I was seriously considering. Without all features… as you so correctly stated, what’s the point?
If it’s a software thing, then maybe once the modding community opens the floodgates. Unless that happens, it’s a pass for me.
The point is even without those features it's still an excellent option
There is no way it was that hard to make HDR usable. I will be buying one but used.
Just the OLED to me is worth it. I used to use the Rift S and went to Quest 3. I think the PSVR2's OLED is just so much better than both. It is also very comfy.
Of course they don't want you to use their PSVR2 more with their PS5. They want people to buy that more than letting you use it on PC.
Already got a PSVR2 and a PC with a rtx 4090, might as well try it out. Modders will probably come up with software to add the missing features.
I love idea of OLED but I have tested HTC PRO oled panel with those tipe of lensses and is very bad :/ and because of that is loosing a lot, resolutions is not so high :/
Is there a way to update the headset on PC?
It’s cheaper than everything else with deeper blacks but the Quest and doesn’t have the compressed video of the Quest.
still looking forward to using my 4090 to push the headset to its limits at 120Hz with no reprojection and no compression artifacts. Could still be a slight clarity improvement over Quest 3 (only on the very limited sweetstop, sadly) due to the direct DP connection
The point: if you don’t already have a VR Headset for PC, but have a PSVR2, you get added value out of it. Also, if you have a PS5 and are debating a PSVR2 or a PC-only headset, you can get this and you’re good to go for both.
If you buy it ONLY for PC usage, you should get something else. DP cables are under $10 and often come with a monitor. I have some laying around doing nothing.
There is literally nothing else that you can buy for PCVR at 500 Usd/Euros that has the features even the nerfed version of PSVR2 have. 4k resolution + OLED + foveat rendering + 110 FOV + uncompressed quality + controlers and tracking included. This is still the best buy for PC VR in 2 months, which is actually depressing for PC vr enthusiasts.
What would beat the PSVR2 in this price range, for dedicated PC usage.
I currently have a Quest 2 connected to my PC, and was thinking Quest 3. But I already have a PSVR2, and with this adapter box, it looks like I have a cheap upgrade.
Unless you care about AR stuff or need it to be wireless (quest 3 air link seems to still have the same downsides as the 2) the psvr2 is almost certainly the better option for you. None of the features it loses on PC are features the Q3 has anyways. And it's still OLED, still a direct dp connection, and the only headsets that seem to truly be better are way more expensive and require base stations and all that.
I play both PS5 and PC, so saving me the cash to buy 2 VR Devices is such a big deal for me. The complaint about this issue is only for people that don't have PS5 and are only aiming for PC connectivity. If you don't have a PS5, then why settle for this? Just get other VRs in the market that are mainly for PC if so.
With the feature, I would have considered it, but without, not even a question.
will it have haptic feed back
Playing Microsoft Flight Simulator, DCS or similar game. Where you have a HOTAS or something. Would be a good use for this. Or meditation or just watching movies with computer.
I'll hold out on buying it until I get more information
hi. Will this work with PSVR also?
Buhu, I was waiting for robocop vision with flat2vr, but no eye tracking!! Robocop is just going to have to get some target practice
If you have a PS5, the ability to use the headset for PCVR as well is still a nice option. If you're looking for a pure PCVR headset, the lack of eye tracking for dynamic foveated rendering may be a deal breaker for many people. Will people with PC's powerful enough to push the full resolution be able turn off the fixed foveated rendering or will bandwidth/software limitations prevent this?
that's the messed up part, we get foveated rendering, but no eye tracking. wat. no HDR sucks too, it ruins the visual advantage of the OLED panels.
Would you be able to use a display port to HDMI cable instead?
Probably, I connect DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort all the time with my PC monitors with simple cables/adapters and no signal converters. Can't know for sure until someone gets their hands on it though. It's all about the signal that travels over the conductor/pinout.
So what about gaming laptops that don’t have display ports? Can I buy an adapter?
you can use an adapter for minidisplay port or usb type c I guess, like we were doing with the Rift S
Maybe the features will be added later?
Tyriel Wood - VR Tech, I love your channel so much, I just had to subscribe!
1 VR headset that works with PS5 and PC. I can play GT7 on my PS5 and then play Half Life Alyx on my PC. I don’t have to buy any other headset so it’s a great value in my opinion.
Why can't it just plug into one of my pc's usb-c ports like my Q2 does?
I am totally going to get this over the my quest2 and its HALF the price of the Index and available in almost every store. :)
Just get a Quest 3
This adapter is for people like me, who own's a PSVR2, and a PC more than powerful enough to play VR games. So I have the best of both worlds without having to buy another VR Headset.
(I mean, I have a Quest 2 and was looking at getting a quest 3 for better quality on PC but why would I do that now?)
Can you play VRchat with the vr2
Foveated rendering was something I was waiting, guess I can take the PSVR2 off my list.
Unless, Sony releases some sort of SDK that lets developers make use of the rest of the features?
Sony have just made me go from "As soon as they announce an adapter for PC i'm gunna the headset" to "As soon as they release an official update, or the community mod in the features, thats when I'll get the headset."
The cable isn't included probably to bring the adapter down to the price of £50. There is a lot of variation on desktop and laptop configurations. Consider the following...
- computer with display port output only
- computer with mini display port output only
- computer with type-C display pass-through only
- computer with HDMI only
Which cable should they bundle?
We can buy the cable that converts from their display output type into the display port input or buy a standard display cable same at both sides for a couple of pounds.
If we want to, we might be able to exceed the quality of the cable that might have been bundled.
If the audience is already a tech enthusiast PC gamer, they will more than likely already have a spare anyway.
The USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 Display Passthrough specification is 1.4 alternative mode, which is why the Display Port cable must be a minimum of 1.4. You can use a higher rated 2.1 cable and will be backwards compatible.
Really hope this means psvr2 game exclusives get ported over.
Hi, please do a PSVR2 vs Quest 3 comparison in Half Life Alyx once the adapter comes out and I'll get your recommended headset (I have a gaming pc and ps 5). Thanks 🙏
If I’m playing DCS or MSFS with Meta Quest 3 now. I don’t need any controllers. Just headset. How would Quest 3 compare to the PSVR2. I’m hoping around the same as we would get from Pimax Crystal Light? Would this be a direct competitor to Crystal Light?
No, the PSVR2 has fresnel lenses that are far inferior to current pancake lenses. Meaning: no edge to edge clarity on these PSVR2 lenses. There is only a small sweetspot in the center of the lenses, outside of that spot it gets blurry. This does not happen with pancake lenses on the Quest 3.
@@Tepnox So then PSVR is going to be a maybe fun thing on the side. So Pimax Super at the end of the year it is. Unless Meta quest 4 comes out. Its not.
hope thirdparty will unlock those features or a company copies the adaptor Sony made and add the features. Or perhaps future updates.
I only play racing games and elite, so i am more than happy that i can finally play f1 and wrc in vr. Insta buy.
Disappointed as I am, lacking a VR headset and my roommate having a PS5, this might still make me buy a PSVR2. I just seriously hope the eye tracking can be enabled for social VR. I seriously miss hanging out with friends in VRChat and Resonite in actual VR.
I picked one up slightly used for 225 way worth it
I'm going to wait and hope for eye tracking because that's the main reason I've wanted the PSVR2 for PCVR, so I could have the foveated rendering.
If thew game wasn't programed with that then it won't work anyways. Once pcvr games come natively with eye tracking then you would really need it. same goes for everything else. if the game doesn't get patched it won't take advantage.
You know for as much of a let down as this is, it's a great thing for folks who already have the headset to be able to play more games and squeeze just a little more use out of it. And for someone like me, who wants a ps5 anyways but doesn't want to have it without the vr headset, but also has a capable pc, this will be a great way ease the transition.
I wonder. I only have psvr2 so i don't know, but are those missing features present on pcvr? Also do they offer the same price?
PC VR is just a generic term without any real meaning. It's not a platform or headset unit.
Neither feature is very common, and unless I missed something new you'd only see both on headsets over twice the price.
It's a bummer it doesn't have the actual best PSVR2 features but hopefully modders can fix them or with official updates from Sony.
I’m buying it without a PS5 purely for a modern high resolution OLED headset to use for PCVR. The Color vibrance and true blacks on OLED displays make a world of difference to actually being immersed in a VR game (especially horror titles). Not to mention it’s pretty affordable, especially used at around $350 USD
Naaah. Fresnel lenses, mura and sde filters will destroy it for you xD.
@@hydzior I have a Quest 1 and quest 3 and I prefer the lower resolution Quest 1 with fresnel lenses and OLED for horror games / darker games because the colors and true blacks make the game much more immersive for me personally.
@@hydzior What ruins vr for me is compression, latency, and a display that looks washed out and grey instead of black.
@@spaghebbio There is literally nothing else that you can buy for PCVR at 500 Usd/Euros that has the features even the nerfed version of PSVR2 have. 4k resolution + OLED + foveat rendering + 110 FOV + Displayport uncompressed quality + controlers and tracking included. This is still the best buy for PC VR in 2 months, which is actually depressing for PC vr enthusiasts.
Lets hope modders can get the max out of the headset in the future.
What does non-eyetracked foveated rendering even mean??
Just a central clear spot and if you move your eyes at all, youll be looking at blur??
Yes, fixed foveated rendering, what Quest devices are using
If you have a pc and ps5, this is perfect. despite losing ps only features, it more than enough to be enjoyable. also hdr is wonky asf with steamvr, i just dont use it all because of that. headset feedback, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback are all ps5/psvr2 games specific features. adaptive triggers work on pc on ps games ported to pc only, so thats not a surpise it wont work in pcvr games. eyetracking is the only feature thats annoying to be missing imo. beside did people think pcvr games are all going to do a psvr2 update to add those features, unless their game is also on ps5, its literally no reason for them to support those features.
that aside, if you want to jump in pcvr, a cv1 is cheap asf and good enough to start. why spend 500 or more and you may not even like vr, or have enough space, or a pc good enough to do it. and if you are already into pcvr you may already have a better headset for it, i have an index and despite my vr2 looking better and being more comfortable. its not a huge jump imo. however since they will be dropping this ill get the adaptor and just used my vr2 on both. while i dont mind cord, i use 4 base stations for index and occulus. so i have 5 usb ports or more being use at one time if im using my sim wheel. as well as stuff ran everywhere, while i prefer the headset to being wired in all that other stuff is annoying at times.
Those exclusions are such a deal breaker. I sold my Quest 3 a few months ago and have been looking to buy another PC exclusive headset, that will work with Display Port directly, and was really getting excited for this one. I mean, OLED, eye tracking and not only controller rumble but headset rumble? Sounds fantastic! And now they say none of the features you'd want the headset for will even work...what the hell is. the point then??? The only hope it has is someone hacking the program to get. the features to work again, or its dead on arrival.
Unless the games have been programmed to use that, which not many if any have on pcvr, then it wouldn't matter. HDR probably the only exception. Every game would need to be patched, future games if they had that would then suffer. Not sure how many pcvr games have those feature but im betting its not many if any at all.
only mura effect and little sweet sport are available on pc
You know for sure someone will tweak the headset for all the features we need.
You pay $100 to actually LOSE features. It's INSANE.
I think we may see a foviated rendering mod, especially as Sony are not locking down this headset. I think some people who already own PS5 who were on the fence about PSVR2 may buy now with the Bonos support of PCVR. But I cant see many people buying PSVR2 just for PCVR