Doug Walker, this is hilarious and brilliant! I actually played the character of Corporal Bronski (the guy who whips Johnny Rico) in this movie. That was a funny and wonderful comedy bit about my character! Anyway, I think you totally get Verhoeven and Neumeier's take on this material. Thank you for the love and the laughs. Teo
"It under preformed at the box office" Don't do it "Got mixed reviews at best" Don't do it "Left an akward and confused feeling from the viewers who saw it" *pulls out gun* "AND IT WAS AWESOME!!!" *slowly puts gun away*
Blade Runner Tron Flash Gordon Krull The Thing Buckaroo Banzai Dune Labyrinth Willow Lifeforce Highlander and many others "underperformed" at the box office and now they're regarded as cult classics. Even Howard the Duck! VHS and DVD sales make all the difference.
$35 million. And yes, it turned a profit. So did Tron. But with a domestic gross of just $57 million, It was still regarded as a box office disappointment.
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 there is the initial budget but on top of that you have to count in the huuuuge PR and marketing costs which are not included in the budget, to even a slightly higher domestic gross could result in a zero net deal in the end...
I think it’s worth mentioning that when the solider guy died during the live fire exercise died, he got shot in the face. Even if he had a helmet on, he would have been dead.
I find the fact that they're holding a live fire exercise in the middle of the parade deck to be beyond ridiculous.. and not a single PT belt in sight. I think it really highlights the grimdark aspect of the film; in-universe, soldiers are disposable, given weapons with no standard sights, armor thats just for decoration.. infantry really is a meat grinder. Imperial Guard anyone..?
@@mrblack5145 Well the books gave the troops power armor, but that would have been really expensive and difficult to put in for all the troops so they scrapped that idea until the animated (cg) sequels (the ones after the live action sequels).
@@Minecraftian2345432 I mean it’s not like that armour did any better in terms of stopping you from being ripped apart by the bugs. I suppose the ability to hold more ammunition and the fact that it could be sealed to allow for function in zero atmosphere environments was a bit of a bonus.
I watched this for the first time the other day and honestly I really love it. It’s definitely part of Verhoeven’s Holy Trinity of Action films, RoboCop, Total Recall and Starship Troopers. The 3 are perfect in their own unique ways.
And the first two deliver clear commentary below the action facade on social/ethical topics - so why should "Starship Trooppers" all of a sudden be a dumb action movie? ;)
I'm a little sad NC didn'tpick up on the "Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today" followed by a shot of a mechanical prosthetic arm and two missing legs, that's a fantastic piece of show-don't-tell storytelling!
@@chukyuniqul I mean it is. The whole movie is incredibly clear and unambiguous about what it's doing. So this whole "Is it secretly a satire of fascism and authoritarian hyper-militarized societies?" premise for the review is unintentionally hilarious. There's nothing secret about it whatsoever. It literally puts the senior officers in SS coats for crying out loud. The motivation for the invasion is an asteroid supposedly being intentionally "launched" from the complete opposite side of the galaxy - thousands and thousands of light years away - by a race of insects that, while intelligent, have no technology or space travel abilities whatsoever. Which everyone just accepts despite the fact that it obviously makes no sense at all, and is impossible, and the invasion was clearly being prepped BEFORE the arbitrary cassus belli came along. The co-ed showers aren't progressive gender equality, it's just that a society like this wouldn't really care one way or the other since the infantry are just (proudly!) fodder for the meat grinder anyway. And the guy with the whip? He was TRAINED for that, Doug! Not that they "found and hired a whippist"! It's the military! *sigh*
@@nataliereed4238 thing is, nc ain't alone in this. It's kinda veerhoven's deal, to subtly parody shit so well that you can't tell it's parody at first. Also I just love the co-ed showers for gifting us with the story on how veerhove n and his lead visuals guy or summin showed up naked to film it too.
@@nataliereed4238 look, you can't claim they have no form of space travel when it is clearly shown in this movie that they have colonized multiple planets in their solar system.
i skipped school to play final fantasy 7 all day , finally beat the game for the first time . then went with my dad to see this movie. prob the best day of my life
This was one of the first movies I saw in theatres on my own. Back when they let 14 year old boys into r rated movies with tits without batting an eye. I miss the 90's.
Wow.... What a... Great... Life.. Hah The guy that said that this could "easily be the best day for everybody" Lmao uhhhh no. If your idea of the best day ever is playing video games, then you really need to rethink life and actually go do some cool shit. Lolol. Go to a music festival or something.
Funny thing: You'd figure an actor's stage name would be the most unbelievable part of their name. Michael *Ironside* ....... real name? Frederick Reginald Ironside😀
@@Chad_Eldridge I'm almost insulted that Doug didn't make an Invader joke there, I mean when else would he get that opportunity, Zim isn't even a real name
@ste men Nah, It's from the book. Infantrymen were fired out of cannons Into the field in power armor, and chuck around tacnukes . all in the first chapter.( I think. it's been 2 years.)
@@Belac_LoTH Yes, that is correct. It was mentioned that depending on the mission, 3 tactical nukes were issuable ordnance to troopers. Otherwise, it would be conventional missile weapons. The book opened with a raid against a Skinnie city. People who read just enough of the book to try to use specific examples against it use the nuking of skinnies as a sign of "militaristic expansionism" or some such nonsense, and totally skip over the fact that the Skinnies were co-belligerents of the pseudo-arachnids and together they started the war against humanity.
I remember the day when I watched Starship Troopers for the first time in 1998 (I was 23). It was on VHS. When the movie ended I rewinded the cassette and watched it again. Still one of my favorite movies ever.
Rumours say Verhoeven deliberatelly picked awful actors for this film (besides Ironside, Brown and Harris who are all just side characters) to make this film even more of a parody/satire.
How could anyone think this movie is NOT satire? It is dripping with it! The progressives from Channel Awesome heads explode! Go watch Red Letter Media's take . You will be much more entertained.
SgtSabotage Well, believe it or not, in Germany this film was banned till July 2017 because the "Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons" misinterpreted it completely.
Bodenlose Dosenhose That's pretty rich! A fascist dictatorship(EU) banning a movie making fun of a fascist dictatorship! Don't want the plebs to get any ideas.
20:34 She reminds me of a Guardsman in one kill team game that managed to succeed on all his wound rolls. Meaning the Guardsman took a lot of hits but just kept fighting.
@@Gozkiel Looks like the division of the branches follows the Imperial model. All MI units we see are all-infantry with no combined arms. Fleet is responsible for all above-ground assets. If there'd be artillery or armored regiments involved, that'd complete the picture.
He honestly is one of the best consistent satirical directors. Very smart movies. He does blatant satire, but always used ground breaking special effects
@@steelbear2063 Depends on the culture. In Québec they are played for merryment and social festivities, and many french canadian brought some to the front in WW2 to lift spirits.
The film is quite popular in military circles, and the book is in the suggested reading lists for both the military academies as well as the OCS program. So yes it does have a growing popularity.
AKDARIUS Yeah but A LOT of people didnt get that it was an Anti war propaganda, in fact many actually think that is PRO WAR (talking about missing the point)
The book is pro military. So if we want to, we can ignore the stupid director and see it as the true creative genius, the author, meant for us to see it.
Levon Gevorgyan Stupid director? The guy that made FREAKING ROBOCOP!!?? Ok sure im gonna take your suggestion and ignore your comment and pretend that you meant the opposite. Now the movie and the book are Obviously two different things, dont mix them, if you want something pro war read the book, if you want something anti war watch the movie, as simple as that
The director isn't stupid but purposely choose to misrepresent the book because he personally didn't agree with the government type portrayed by the book.(which isn't fascism it's a hierarchical meritocracy)
@Ironmaster64 I can see why people miss the antiwar parts of it, if you know the book then its a total slap in the face, but if you don't you have a kid who loses his home to an (as far as we know) unprovoked attack and he and his buddies are forged through death and battle into a weird band of brothers. While it does portray the military leadership as utterly incompetent and the wartime propaganda is pretty blatant, you can't fault people for missing the artist's intended message and besides even in prowar movies you still usually have at least a few bumbling superior officers.
I don't normally comment on videos, i am more of just a casual observer. but i think it needs to be said that Doug, Rob, Tamara, Malcolm and the rest of the NC crew really do their best. they are in the middle of huge controversy and they still put on a show for us, because they care about their fan base and don't want to disappoint. i may not agree with things channel awesome has done but i will always standby the Critic. because of nostalgia critic i have something to look forward to every week. it makes a normal day like Wednesday something more. i hope you can get through this. your entire community and i are counting on you!
TheKingOfLimb5 It should be noted that they usally backlog their videos. Otherwise how would they have snippets of different episodes in their intro before the episodes they came from even aired? My point is any work you see for this season of NC is likely already covered before the controversy hit. It's the next season that your comment will be more fitting towards.
The videos were recorded prior to the controversy and it's been kinda confirmed that after a week of the controversy really hitting, Doug backed out of Channel Awesome, writing on all his social media that he past-tense worked for Channel Awesome.
This movie is such an interesting litmus test for the way people... 1) view the relationship between the individual and the sword of government: the military 2) view how a monstrous and inhuman enemy (and possibly one you cannot communicate with) should be engaged 3) view how to interpret a work of satire and distinguish between the satire and the reluctant admission of the strengths of the position being satirized
Point 3 is even more hilarious in hindsight considering that the source material played its premise completely straight. If Heinlein saw this movie he would have lost his sh*t
To anyone saying the NC is quitting and that this vid was just made a long time ago, that’s probably not true. Malcolm and Tamera said they’re still working with Doug but that it might not be with CA. Recently, Doug said in an interview that he was still working with Mike Michaud, CEO of Channel Awesome. So the most likely outcome is that CA will close down and a new site focusing only on Critic is going to replace it. NC isn’t going anywhere, folks.
@@yortlebluzzgubbly3871 The opposite, the book was actually a lot deeper, and is a good commentary on the future of liberal ideas. It even predicted the collapse of democracy, and offered a libertarian dream state. The point of military service was actually a larger civil service program that happened to be militaristic only because they were at war. People completed the civil service program to earn the right to vote, which was supposed to be statement on the problem of universal franchise. The book even toys with the idea on why they would have to select fewer people to vote, and its conclusion was that only people willing to sacrifice time and life towards society were meant to make policy decisions, because unlike intelligence or charisma it displays a form of virtue towards wanting to serve society and the system. You can disagree with the outcome, but a lot of the steps preceding that system were very prescient, showing the problems of all the other alternative outcomes considered. Universal suffrage led to a Clockwork Orange style dystopia, the Revolt of The Scientists (basically a meritocracy of only the intelligent being in political power) was short-lived because they were too self-serving, and regression into despotism couldn't protect human rights. The director of the movie famously said he didn't even read the book, and someone tried to summarize a part of it for him so he could decide to make the tone a joke on propaganda. The problem is, he was so honest in its portrayal that you can even notice that it's actually terrible propaganda, because it's too accurate from the novel. We can see where the libertarian paradise shines through, in news stories where the reporter is killed by aliens (shockingly honest where any controlled propaganda would never show the details of a defeat), to arguments about the potential humanity or at least intelligence about the bugs (where one character from a talk show even uses the "I'm offended!" statement of more modern sociopolitics just to ignore the possibility). The thing is, the bugs attacked without warning a peaceful colony on Klendathu, and then did a surprise strike on Earth, which is where we see the counterattack beginning to form, which is why the Fleet didn't even know how to safely navigate to Klendathu in the movie. The news stories showed the attack, and instead of whipping people into a fury via a Hitler-esque speech by the military commander, the military commander is publicly sacked (never would happen in propaganda where they would pretend that it never happened and no one made mistakes) and the replacement shows that the military was accountable to the citizens by promising their full efforts. That's actually what makes the movie cool, is because the style is very pronounced, but if you dissected it like anyone would dissect propaganda, it would actually show that the reality within was more reasonable than the tone would make it seem.
@@afelias That sounds like a terrible system. I don't entirely disagree with the idea of a civil service program to earn the right to vote (there obviously should be exceptions, like if you work a full time job or volunteer to homeless shelters or whatever), but the government should never include military service as part of this. I'd find it pretty fucked up to have serve in a government that is willing to throw my life away, and I wouldn't want to die for a government I don't have faith in.
@@accomplisheddiplomat4091 In the book, the Mobile Infantry is not the cannon-fodder troops we see in the movie. The book shows them off as Special Forces, clad in power armor described as "iron gorillas". If you were MI in the book, you were a massive badass. Then again, the book only have 1 fight scene. It was mainly a sci-fi story to let the writer share his political opinion after a failed political run.
Moar fun facts: The guy that played Zim is the Voice actor for Mr. Krabbs and was the villain of the Dexter: New Blood. He's in a lot of voice acting roles really, but imagine this is what Mr. Krabbs meant with his 'Navy days'
Klendathu, 80,000 light years away, capable of launching slow moving asteroids that reach Earth in a couple of weeks. Those bugs are using stargates, sarge!
I thought of that as a propaganda scene that took advantage of a natural disaster. The asteroid came from the solar system but they blamed the bugs for it.
There was an animated Starship Troopers for a couple of years that explains the bugs are definitely responsible for asteroid attacks, but never explains how they move the asteroids across the galaxy at faster than light speeds. The Starship Trooper "world" essentially has the entire Milky Way galaxy about the size of the solar system.
Maybe it is intentionally made a bit ambiguous in the first movie. And that the asteroid actually came from Klendathu got made canon by whatever hacks created the remaining entrances in this franchise, because they took everything at face value. The human ships are able to travel a lot faster than light though with some kind of warp engine I presume. Maybe the bugs can replicate a similar way of travelling biologically, warping and folding the space somehow. I haven't read the book and I don't know if there occurs a weaponized astroid and how this is explained.
Go watch the red letter media video about it. They pretty much close the book on this being satire or not. Not that I ever understood how anyone could MISS the satire in this.
that didn't have that big of a burgins to being the mech suits.....tell the animations since it easily (in a way) to show the mech suits like in the books will in a more modern but yet still keep close to the classic
I don't think I've laughed that hard at a NC review in a long time. The jokes were hard hitting, consistent, and just all around top notch. I don't think there was a better time to bring back Boomer, albeit if only to lay it to rest. Thanks for all that you do NC team.
The soldier "who got away", actually quit the Corp.. & then doing so, ruined any chance of her career goal in the process. Rico, chose to stay in the Corp. With that, he had to receive his punishment.
@SCHOOL SHOOTER Actually, the citizenship in this universe is earned through "Federal service", and it is not JUST the military. There are various jobs that you do that are of use to the state but require a level of self-sacrifice and danger. Things included are also mining or gear testing. It is well described in the book. After the great war that almost destroyed the Earth, war veterans rose up and cleaned up the corrupt political systems that led to the pointless war in the first place. Now, if you want do have a say in what happens in a country, you need to serve that country. You need to put the benefit of all before yourself, that is why those potentially harmful jobs (like miner or soldier) are the ways you earn citizenship. Because if you don't show the required level of selfless care for the community, you are not allowed to make decisions for it. There is a deep concept of it in the book - that is the reason why the author was considered fascist in his time and why the film decided to go more on the parody trail than the actual book. Because, the core political ideas the author portrayed in the book actually make you think (if you are smart enough) about different concepts of governance and who has the right to actually make decisions. Everyone? Then by the law of chance you get many idiots voting. The smartest ones? They usually make decisions based on raw numbers and no empathy which is not a good way to govern. The film touches a bit on it all and if you watch it as only a parody, you ain't gonna notice it. It wouldn't even occur to some modern snowflakes. But there is some of it on the film. Book? It is full of it. The whole concept of sacrifice and service and benefits it gives you are maybe the prime theme of the book, along with general war, which, while secondary, is important. The best book to go with "Starship troopers" is, IMHO, "The Forever War". While Starship troopers touches a bit on the war as a whole (reasons, conduct, effect on people) it focuses mostly on the ethics of the society it is developing in, while Forever War heavily focuses on war and (unknown) reasons of it, and the effect it has on people returning from it. A brilliant use of science and physics to present the evolution of society that soldiers return to, unable to fit in again. Even if the Starship Troopers had some over the top feel, it is actually a very deep film raising many questions if you sit down and think about it all. Even on its own. And if you go through a book, damn, you are in for a treat.
SCHOOL SHOOTER. Yes because obviously anyone who works a real job for a living would vote in a party who takes all of their hard earned money and gives it to the lazy and ungrateful.... Have you ever worked. Like not a fast food job or retail but like in a mine or factory or mill? Why would you voluntarily give your stuff yo people who didn't earn it? Commies only get elected by lazy people.
And to be fair to the lore, in both the movies and the book that is the whole point. while money isn't an issue in this future war was. So a group of veterans got together to protect their town from looting and then moved on to become a world government with the simple idea that "A person who has never been in the serves and doesn't understand the weight of sending soldiers to their deaths should not be allowed a voice in the discussion of sending people to their deaths." (horrible over simplification but you get the point) and military services wasn't the only way to become a citizen, the book makes a huge deal about if a deaf, dumb, and blind person wanted to serve they would find them a job counting rice in Antarctica with chopsticks. because they were equal opportunity, but their job is to make you earn it through hardship. like the scene at 7:45 the reason he talked to every recruit and got to know them is because his job is to scare people, who don't have the chops, off. in the book he didn't wear his prosthetic arm during sing in, and then when Rico bumps into him after hours the guy is in super high tech prosthetic and tells him "now that your in i don't have to scare you away"
Get ready for some negative comments against Doug walker, even though there are many rumors I still like nostalgia critic and I’m gonna continue to watch it as I’ve been doing since I was little
I remember the book as being the sci-fi series to popularize power armor and space marines. So if you don’t like it, at least appreciate it for almost all of modern military sci-fi.
Connor Walters the book is amazing. And while i did like the movie the first time i saw it, it changed a lot after i read the book and found out that the director of this movie did not.
I.e made it worse. Power armor is awesome... until early to mid 2000s game developers kept plugging up all of AAA gaming’s orifices with them, making them cliched and boring.
The director read part of it, he didn't read the rest because he thought it was "boring". I wanted to see a Filipino Juan Rico and the power armor but we got a movie where soldiers are fighting a one sided battle
This movie literally predicted 9/11 and the subsequent war in the middle East. It's absolutely brilliant in its satire of America. This film very clearly criticizing American foreign policy, and America's jingoistic culture. It's an film with such subversive commedy that everyone missed the point. I even have a strong belief that the asteroid supposedly sent by the bugs was in fact a rogue asteroid that happened to hit Earth, and was blamed on the bugs simply as an excuse to go to war, and as propaganda to find the war effort. The fact is that it would be physically impossible for the bugs to accurately launch an asteroid across the galaxy. It would take billions of years for it to reach Earth and would be next to impossible to accurately shoot. Paul Verhoven has a degree in physics, so I imagine he is aware of how impossible this is. Additionally we never see the bugs actually weaponizing asteroids even during the invasion of their planet. I also believe the asteroids destruction of Buenos Aires was meant to satirize the destruction of the USS Maine which the U.S. blamed on Spain as an excuse for war, and as recruitment propaganda. However it was discovered that in reality the Maine was destroyed when one of its own boilers exploded.
Dude this movie satirizes totalitarian propaganda - like the nazi or soviet movies. (which the author himself mentions). Just watch some of them to understand what the author was trying to communicate. (won't be a pleasant experience, tho) The arguments you bring up are based on your worldview and the ability of your pattern-seeking brain to draw connections.
The asteroid hits precisely Buenos Aires, a center of opposition to the earth government (shown by the antimilitary position of Rico's parents). It is no rogue asteroid, and it is certainly not sent halfway across the universe by the bugs, it is sent by the earth government. They are killing two birds with one very big stone: rallying everyone against the bugs by pretending they sent it, and destroying a center of opposition on earth.
Say what you will, I think this should've just been an original film instead of as a satire of such a hugely influential book that, from what I gather, the director didn't even fully read but simply threw away halfway through and stuck to a story summary. The author may not have been the most progressive person on earth, but he wasn't simply saying "fascism is good, kids!"; plus a lot of your favorite sci-fi media would either not exist or be far less good without it. I get why the director would dislike it given what he lived through, but it still feels kind of dickish to me.
its funny how people are just now discovering or rediscovering Starship Troopers, with the release of Helldivers 2 game that has so many things inspired from the film!
So you've reviewed Alien resurrection Alien vs predator Mars attacks Tommyknockers And now starship troopers Still waiting on Alien vs predator requiem
Whoa shit! Unless Doug has started pre-recording his reviews, I don't think Nostalgia Critic is going anywhere anytime soon! I thought the American Tail: Fievel Goes West review was gonna be the last one!
+SupremeChaos918 Same here. He still has to catch up to the very recent Steven Universe episodes, and I wanna see him react to more disturbing Britain commercials.
And can we just talk about how amazing the Klendatho Drop song is. It truly fills you with courage to go marching off too war for the good of the Federation.
Read the book and you'll understand more. The book is a critique on life in thr 50's-60's, and not just on facisim but on American society as well. The book was very controversial as it asked questions that no one wanted to ask like on cruel and unusual punishment. The movie pokes fun at the book but also critiques militarism as a whole.
Wait what? What's the difference between the movie and the book then. If they both portray society the same way, where is the movie poking fun at the book?
Well for starters, Rico is a Filipino in the book and not a blue eyed Aryan lol that and to become a Citizen doesn't mean you have to join the military. Military Service is in the minority for those with the franchise to vote.
thatrandomguy Yes. Although it'd be better to say the Tyranids are like the bugs. TBH I don't know much about that age of Sci-fi, so I don't know which hive mind of bugs is closest to WH:40K
For those wondering. The state of NC is unclear. Many are saying Doug has left and these current video's are pre-recorded. I've also heard this is the last pre-recorded video. How true that is is unknown. We will just have to wait sand see if more NC is posted on Channel Awesome or not.
Well, seeing how some have said the same about the last video it's unclear how far the back-logged videos go. All I know is if you say it's gonna rain every day then you'll eventually be right.
Ya. We have to wait until either the back log runs out or Doug himself makes an announcement. Personally I can't see them having a backlog that lasts more then another 4 or so episodes.
He made a Count Olaf joke during this review though. Granted he made a review on that movie. I wonder if he is ever gonna do a video on the Netflix series.
Plot Twist: The ferret ends up being the hero While we're on the subject: have you done a review of StarShip Troopers Chronicles Roughnecks? I feel that is due for your worth, yes
Verhoeven survived nazi occupied Netherlands as a little kid. Robocop and Starship Troopers both have a bit of political commentary in the middle of the awesome. Starship Trooper is based off a novel. While reading it with a friend, Verhoeven's friend commented that the militaristic, world government, political/military elite rulers remind him a lot about fascism. There, the director decided to add a little satire to the sci-fi movie. Hence the propaganda scenes intercalated with the movie scenes. Also, it's speculated that the earth government itself dropped that meteor in order to rile the population against the bugs. BTW. Dizzy was hotter than Carmen.
Lmao because looks are the only thing that matters when choosing a girl right? You sound like a 12 year old. And you are also wrong, Carmen is hotter 🤣
His friend was grossly mistaken about the book. Verohoven himself said he found the book boring. The script was actually not Starship Troopers originally. It had some other generic name like "Slaughter at Outpost 9" or something along those lines. The script was basically Frankenstein retrofitted with a few elements from the books. Dizzy for example, is a name of a character in the book, but she is actually a he. It would actually be really awesome to see a proper adaption of the original story. Of the two, Dizzy was definitely hotter. Not just because of her looks, but because she could play rough and handle some heavy shit. Carmen didn't impress me with how quickly she turned against Rico.
I saw this movie when i was like 9 years. Never though about it in deep, and liked it cause i love Starcraft and Warhammer, so for me was kinda like that. I saw it again like 5 years ago and once i get some of the meaning i was like "really, this dumb flick actually has a deeper meaning". Cause i agree with Doug, once you get a grasp on how goverment propaganda works it seems the movie is more than a cluster fuck of cliches. I mean, for example, in the video were they tell You about where the bugs are they, LITERALLY are on the other side of a fucking entire galaxy, but somehow... If the humans don't strike first the bugs will come a destroy ALL people... Sounds familiar? What do humans know about the insects? Why fight with them to begin with? We have no real compelling reasons to hate the bugs, far as we know they are only feral creatures attacking humans when they close in. That black girl didn't care about the safety of the people or anything like that, She's there cause she wanted to be a politician and her idiocy killed a young guy, isn't that a metaphor of politicians killing young soldiers by being shameless dicks? Why there's human bases in a bug planet? Isn't that an invation of their planet in the first place. Why the intelligence division are such cunts that they KNOW they send people to their sure deads?... For sure is not a masterfull satire but i think is more than a movie with aliens and guns.
Most of the members are there for personal gain than anything else, for example to gain citizenship under The Federation(R) they must serve The Military(TM) first, after that they can unlock a LOT of possible achievments in life. Some of them are like Carmen (who wanted to be a military pilot) and truly want to serve their nations, but others are like the black chick, entering service just because it is an installed requirement for a better civilian career. Rico and Dizzy on the other hand are there just for romantic reasons and Ironside is there because he believes The Federation's(R) ideals. On a side note to this, it might seem that Ricco got the worst part by getting wiped while the actual murderer of the former companion and soldier just got expelled from The Military(TM), but in reality Ricco got it easy because he could still serve and achieve citizenship while the black chick would end up having a hard time (to say the least while being uber-optimistic about it) trying to reach his dream job or a decent career, since she ended up having a black mark in her record under The Military(R). As a last comment I will say that the reason behind the massacre in Klendathu is this: The Federation(R) as any militarized government, NEEDS an enemy in order to keep the population focusing their effors in the fighting and hating instead of the THINKING. So, in order to have the world united in hate against the "bugs" and at the same time, to throw 'war bounds' to The Military(TM) in order to have the "Revenge Machine" in movment, a sacrifice was required. Showing thousands of soldiers destroyed by the bugs is more convincing than ANYTHING the Propaganda Crew could put up on the global television. So yeah, as you know, there is a LOT of subtext into this film, wich a LOT of people missed the first time it got 'aired' on theaters. (for example, like what happened to Carpenter's The Thing) EDIT: Fixed some grammar errors, but since I am a native spanish speaker who learned english by accident (watching movies with subtitles) and NOT by studing it, heavy loads of fuckups per paragraph are a POSIBILITY.
I loved this "Archie and the gang goes to war" movie when it first came out. Laughed throughout the film. I had just gotten out of the Marine Corps when I saw this and recognized all the satire immediately. You really can't take this movie seriously in order to enjoy it.
Devil you know what is hysterical. "Starship Troopers" is on the Enlisted recommended reading list. So young hardchargers will just watch the movie and write their essay not knowing. Constant source of hijinks to this day lol
I wanna see Mike put on a hat and tie and start calling himself Nostalgia Critic just so I can point and laugh ALL the way from Doug's new future channel.
Doug Walker, this is hilarious and brilliant! I actually played the character of Corporal Bronski (the guy who whips Johnny Rico) in this movie. That was a funny and wonderful comedy bit about my character! Anyway, I think you totally get Verhoeven and Neumeier's take on this material. Thank you for the love and the laughs. Teo
Wait??? You played that whipping guy?? Really??
@@Bigpapafrank Yes. Really. It was my 2nd Paul Verhoeven film.
@@thecoolroom that's so cool!
@@Bigpapafrank Thank you. Myself and the other ST cast & crew appreciate you and all our diehard fans.
@@thecoolroom I tell ya what, Starship Troopers is a "Whipping Good Time"...... Sorry for the pun.
"It under preformed at the box office"
Don't do it
"Got mixed reviews at best"
Don't do it
"Left an akward and confused feeling from the viewers who saw it"
*pulls out gun*
"AND IT WAS AWESOME!!!"
*slowly puts gun away*
Blade Runner
Tron
Flash Gordon
Krull
The Thing
Buckaroo Banzai
Dune
Labyrinth
Willow
Lifeforce
Highlander
and many others "underperformed"
at the box office and now they're regarded as cult classics.
Even Howard the Duck!
VHS and DVD sales make all the difference.
@@matthewstoneback9 willow made 137 million against a 30 million budget.
$35 million.
And yes, it turned a profit. So did Tron.
But with a domestic gross of just $57 million, It was still regarded as a box office disappointment.
@@matthewstoneback9 that sounds idiotic to me but I’m not in the movie biz so 🤷🏿♂️
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 there is the initial budget but on top of that you have to count in the huuuuge PR and marketing costs which are not included in the budget, to even a slightly higher domestic gross could result in a zero net deal in the end...
Fun fact: "The cast agreed to do the co-ed shower scene only if Verhoeven agreed to direct the scene naked, which he did" :D
Now that's commitment.
So he... wipped it out^^
Interesting.
🤣
Man the director must have bin more commited than Tom cruises who lured to fly a helicopter for the last mission impossible
Funny how he says "people will talk about it", and now, five years later, people are talking about it like crazy...
Helldivers 2 is definitely helping on that front
@@joeslickback Helldivers 2 *is* that front
HELLDIVERS 2!!!!
I literally just commented something similar to this..
You guys wanna fight for super earth 😂
Yeah, 2024, Helldivers 2. People know
Fun fact: They re-used the military armor in the first or second episode of Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy.
actually the armor was used throughout all of lost galaxy along with the armor being used in firefly
@@zaccarpenter621 Ah I just remember it in the first episode as I didn't watch the whole season.
@@Nakiatakai I recommend it especially the episode the rescue mission
This movie came out at the same time
starship troopers came out a year before lost galaxy aired
"...AND IT WAS AWESOME!!!"
Yes...yes it was.
Lol, who would have thought that Mr. Krabs be the Sergeant Zim
"Geshtapo Patrick Harris" and "Hail Patrick Harris" had me in tears.
Not "Hail", "Heil" :P
Doogie Himmler
and it’s Gestapo, not geshtapo
it stands for geheime starts polizei, or secret state police
this review had me in tears
@@tjswc1458 it is if your name is Sean Connery
I think it’s worth mentioning that when the solider guy died during the live fire exercise died, he got shot in the face. Even if he had a helmet on, he would have been dead.
I find the fact that they're holding a live fire exercise in the middle of the parade deck to be beyond ridiculous.. and not a single PT belt in sight.
I think it really highlights the grimdark aspect of the film; in-universe, soldiers are disposable, given weapons with no standard sights, armor thats just for decoration.. infantry really is a meat grinder.
Imperial Guard anyone..?
Wouaaah never thought of it
@@mrblack5145 na imperial guard is still worse though the Bugs would still work in that universe
@@mrblack5145 Well the books gave the troops power armor, but that would have been really expensive and difficult to put in for all the troops so they scrapped that idea until the animated (cg) sequels (the ones after the live action sequels).
@@Minecraftian2345432 I mean it’s not like that armour did any better in terms of stopping you from being ripped apart by the bugs. I suppose the ability to hold more ammunition and the fact that it could be sealed to allow for function in zero atmosphere environments was a bit of a bonus.
When Mister Krabs tells you to bite down, you bite down.
Aloken Bite down the pillow Sponge Bob me boy! Uhgugugugugug
[flashback]
"do you feel it, mr. krabs?"
"trust me. i know."
@@SLAPNTZ_MCCOY what about Mr Squidward
Did the Highlander whip him?
Yeah if you're gonna be flogged by the Kurgan and he tells you to bite down you bite down.
I watched this for the first time the other day and honestly I really love it. It’s definitely part of Verhoeven’s Holy Trinity of Action films, RoboCop, Total Recall and Starship Troopers. The 3 are perfect in their own unique ways.
And the first two deliver clear commentary below the action facade on social/ethical topics - so why should "Starship Trooppers" all of a sudden be a dumb action movie? ;)
Same here
Me too, yesterday for the first time and I completely agree
Here we are 5 years later.
Helldivers 2 gets released.
This movie is now getting talked about more then ever because of its similarities.
I'm a little sad NC didn'tpick up on the "Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today" followed by a shot of a mechanical prosthetic arm and two missing legs, that's a fantastic piece of show-don't-tell storytelling!
I mean it's pretty on the nose if you ask me.
Doug Walker?!? Failing to pick up on actually quite obvious visual storytelling elements?!? Get out!!!
@@chukyuniqul I mean it is. The whole movie is incredibly clear and unambiguous about what it's doing. So this whole "Is it secretly a satire of fascism and authoritarian hyper-militarized societies?" premise for the review is unintentionally hilarious. There's nothing secret about it whatsoever. It literally puts the senior officers in SS coats for crying out loud. The motivation for the invasion is an asteroid supposedly being intentionally "launched" from the complete opposite side of the galaxy - thousands and thousands of light years away - by a race of insects that, while intelligent, have no technology or space travel abilities whatsoever. Which everyone just accepts despite the fact that it obviously makes no sense at all, and is impossible, and the invasion was clearly being prepped BEFORE the arbitrary cassus belli came along. The co-ed showers aren't progressive gender equality, it's just that a society like this wouldn't really care one way or the other since the infantry are just (proudly!) fodder for the meat grinder anyway. And the guy with the whip? He was TRAINED for that, Doug! Not that they "found and hired a whippist"! It's the military! *sigh*
@@nataliereed4238 thing is, nc ain't alone in this. It's kinda veerhoven's deal, to subtly parody shit so well that you can't tell it's parody at first.
Also I just love the co-ed showers for gifting us with the story on how veerhove n and his lead visuals guy or summin showed up naked to film it too.
@@nataliereed4238 look, you can't claim they have no form of space travel when it is clearly shown in this movie that they have colonized multiple planets in their solar system.
i skipped school to play final fantasy 7 all day , finally beat the game for the first time . then went with my dad to see this movie. prob the best day of my life
this could easily be the best day of the life of everyone. nice man.
Not even close, son.
This was one of the first movies I saw in theatres on my own. Back when they let 14 year old boys into r rated movies with tits without batting an eye. I miss the 90's.
Amazing I also skipped school to go see this movie here in France, I was SO hyped. Will never forget that day.
Wow.... What a... Great... Life..
Hah
The guy that said that this could "easily be the best day for everybody"
Lmao uhhhh no. If your idea of the best day ever is playing video games, then you really need to rethink life and actually go do some cool shit. Lolol.
Go to a music festival or something.
Funny thing: You'd figure an actor's stage name would be the most unbelievable part of their name.
Michael *Ironside* ....... real name?
Frederick Reginald Ironside😀
I love his original name even better :D thx for the info.
F.R. Ironside for president!
@@DoctorProph3t F.R.I. OPEN UP XD
Richard Toth lol I’d open the door just to not incur Michael Ironsides wrath
To be fair it would be an epic death :D battle of the titan and the somebody. But hey you would be THE somebody who died fighting Mr. Ironside.
Ace is probably the best side character. He and Zim have some really subtle character development.
Very subtle! XD
"I can't believe we both work for Spaceballs!"
Best. Line. ever.
Starship Troopers is a fantastic movie and is definitely worth to watch if you like sci-fi action.
21:28 - Well OF COURSE drill instructor Zim was a badass, he was played by Clancy Brown. :)
@@Chad_Eldridge I'm almost insulted that Doug didn't make an Invader joke there, I mean when else would he get that opportunity, Zim isn't even a real name
Yep
Aka Mr Krabs.
hell yeah
Also the voice of Lex Luthor.
Critic: Who the hell is Zim?
Me: An Irken sent to conquer Earth
one may call him an invader
I'm gonna sing the doom song now
😁
Also Mr Krabs.
WHY WAS THERE BACON IN THE SOAP?!
NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE!
11:00 Actually, the whipping thing in every army ever has always been a volunteer system; some people just feel like participating!
I'm concerned to hear how you know that
Wait the military contains a statistically significant amount of BDSM fetishists?
@@ahumanbeingamnayplaceholde1746 It wasn’t seen as hot back then…
@@ahumanbeingamnayplaceholde1746 ... On second thought, maybe a military career is a good idea...
@@DefgirRZawa Your country needs you, Daddy.
The reason that RPG made such a big boom is the arsenal of the Mobile Infantry.
That was a tactical nuke. A standard weapon.
@ste men Nah, It's from the book. Infantrymen were fired out of cannons Into the field in power armor, and chuck around tacnukes . all in the first chapter.( I think. it's been 2 years.)
@ste men Rocket Propelled Grenade?
You mean RPN (Rocket Propelled Nuke)
@@Belac_LoTH Yes, that is correct. It was mentioned that depending on the mission, 3 tactical nukes were issuable ordnance to troopers. Otherwise, it would be conventional missile weapons. The book opened with a raid against a Skinnie city.
People who read just enough of the book to try to use specific examples against it use the nuking of skinnies as a sign of "militaristic expansionism" or some such nonsense, and totally skip over the fact that the Skinnies were co-belligerents of the pseudo-arachnids and together they started the war against humanity.
I mean even in the movie they are called nukes
One of the best under rated movies
Agreed. Love it
Yup soooo good
I like to imagine Oprah as an army trainer in this:
"You get a Nuke! ..and you get a Nuke!.. and you get a Nuke.!"
"Everyone gets a Nuke!!"
I remember the day when I watched Starship Troopers for the first time in 1998 (I was 23). It was on VHS. When the movie ended I rewinded the cassette and watched it again. Still one of my favorite movies ever.
I was 17 and watched it in the theater.
I was 10 when i first saw it
I was 7 and now i shower only with girls.
Rumours say Verhoeven deliberatelly picked awful actors for this film (besides Ironside, Brown and Harris who are all just side characters) to make this film even more of a parody/satire.
thats what it was going for, watched it fo the first time ever last year, its a great satire piece
mocking a good satire is quite dumb tbh
How could anyone think this movie is NOT satire? It is dripping with it! The progressives from Channel Awesome heads explode! Go watch Red Letter Media's take . You will be much more entertained.
SgtSabotage Well, believe it or not, in Germany this film was banned till July 2017 because the "Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons" misinterpreted it completely.
Bodenlose Dosenhose
That's pretty rich! A fascist dictatorship(EU) banning a movie making fun of a fascist dictatorship! Don't want the plebs to get any ideas.
Helldivers 2 has made this relevant again
Exactly, I was brought back to this again
Thanks to the success of Helldivers there's a high chance we'll get another movie now lol.
@@T0b1maru I think there's already a few sequels right?
@@grammification Yea quite a few actually. So lets hope this is a good one
This was always a classic I would have returned to anyway even without Helldivers, but yeah.
20:34
She reminds me of a Guardsman in one kill team game that managed to succeed on all his wound rolls. Meaning the Guardsman took a lot of hits but just kept fighting.
The planet broke before the guard did
I hope they confirm this is set just before the Dark Age of Technology
I'm glad I'm not the only WH40k person here. Wait does that make Doogie a Commisar?
@@Gozkiel Looks like the division of the branches follows the Imperial model. All MI units we see are all-infantry with no combined arms. Fleet is responsible for all above-ground assets.
If there'd be artillery or armored regiments involved, that'd complete the picture.
“WHY WON’T YOU _DIE?!”_
*“THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!”*
Show of hands, who remembers "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles?"
*not just remember it but i also own the series on dvd with commentary....and yes, i've watched the series many times both ways*
one of my Favorites
I do.
Vaguely, only saw a couple episodes early in the morning
I RESPECT THAT RED VS. BLUE REFERENCE.
Same
"You shot Church, you team killing fucktard!" - Red V.S. Blue (Sorry, I haven't seen the series, so I don't know who that is in the show)
@@flightg97shadowgarth32 If I remember right, Caboose killed Church in that scene.
Oh well , I still enjoy NC regardless of the drama.
Mike's* nc
Same here
Bout dang time i see something like this
Hopefully the Walkers can recover from the controversies and start over on a different channel. Channel Awesome is a sinking ship right now though.
The Walkers weren't really blamed for anything in the document. It would be easily within the realm of possibility for them to start over.
15:49 That children is how Michael Bay was conceived
Lies, there were no doves.
@@azulral doves are John Woo's thing, MI 2, faceoff
@@onqmuk You are right. Got them confused.
Didn't Armageddon get out the same year?
Well, he is a vile creature.
He honestly is one of the best consistent satirical directors. Very smart movies.
He does blatant satire, but always used ground breaking special effects
And didn't read the book, and made this movie instead
When I deployed to Iraq, they always brought us violins to boost morale. Not beer, not women, violins. Hell yeah.
Which are played at funerals. Someone had a dark sense of humor
@@steelbear2063 but atleast they already have something to play at the funerals
Regimental Bard.
Music is soothes the soul🎼🎻
@@steelbear2063 Depends on the culture. In Québec they are played for merryment and social festivities, and many french canadian brought some to the front in WW2 to lift spirits.
The film is quite popular in military circles, and the book is in the suggested reading lists for both the military academies as well as the OCS program. So yes it does have a growing popularity.
AKDARIUS Yeah but A LOT of people didnt get that it was an Anti war propaganda, in fact many actually think that is PRO WAR (talking about missing the point)
The book is pro military. So if we want to, we can ignore the stupid director and see it as the true creative genius, the author, meant for us to see it.
Levon Gevorgyan Stupid director? The guy that made FREAKING ROBOCOP!!?? Ok sure im gonna take your suggestion and ignore your comment and pretend that you meant the opposite.
Now the movie and the book are Obviously two different things, dont mix them, if you want something pro war read the book, if you want something anti war watch the movie, as simple as that
The director isn't stupid but purposely choose to misrepresent the book because he personally didn't agree with the government type portrayed by the book.(which isn't fascism it's a hierarchical meritocracy)
@Ironmaster64 I can see why people miss the antiwar parts of it, if you know the book then its a total slap in the face, but if you don't you have a kid who loses his home to an (as far as we know) unprovoked attack and he and his buddies are forged through death and battle into a weird band of brothers. While it does portray the military leadership as utterly incompetent and the wartime propaganda is pretty blatant, you can't fault people for missing the artist's intended message and besides even in prowar movies you still usually have at least a few bumbling superior officers.
I don't normally comment on videos, i am more of just a casual observer. but i think it needs to be said that Doug, Rob, Tamara, Malcolm and the rest of the NC crew really do their best. they are in the middle of huge controversy and they still put on a show for us, because they care about their fan base and don't want to disappoint. i may not agree with things channel awesome has done but i will always standby the Critic. because of nostalgia critic i have something to look forward to every week. it makes a normal day like Wednesday something more. i hope you can get through this. your entire community and i are counting on you!
TheKingOfLimb5 It should be noted that they usally backlog their videos. Otherwise how would they have snippets of different episodes in their intro before the episodes they came from even aired?
My point is any work you see for this season of NC is likely already covered before the controversy hit. It's the next season that your comment will be more fitting towards.
The videos were recorded prior to the controversy and it's been kinda confirmed that after a week of the controversy really hitting, Doug backed out of Channel Awesome, writing on all his social media that he past-tense worked for Channel Awesome.
This was recorded weeks if not months ago
I agree. I've always been a fan of NC.
That was beautifully said
The movie was the satire, the book was the "realistic" version. Both are excellent!
Alike only in title and some character names. Stories are totally different. Loved both for different reasons.
This movie is such an interesting litmus test for the way people...
1) view the relationship between the individual and the sword of government: the military
2) view how a monstrous and inhuman enemy (and possibly one you cannot communicate with) should be engaged
3) view how to interpret a work of satire and distinguish between the satire and the reluctant admission of the strengths of the position being satirized
@No Name Typicall mon-keigh short sightedness
@No Name Good luck with the Xeelee and Photino Birds though.
This smells awfully of heresy. Xenos are a menace to humanity. So does the immortal emperor says.
Point 3 is even more hilarious in hindsight considering that the source material played its premise completely straight. If Heinlein saw this movie he would have lost his sh*t
@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Haha dark-matter [REDACTED] goes [REDACTED]
VICTORY FOR ZIM!
Seriously, huge missed opportunity.
i think he meant the Critic.
is so sad that the Critic didn't grow with late 90s-2000s cartoons/shows. That's why he doesn't reference them often.
Agreed. Betty was always hotter than Veronica.
To anyone saying the NC is quitting and that this vid was just made a long time ago, that’s probably not true. Malcolm and Tamera said they’re still working with Doug but that it might not be with CA. Recently, Doug said in an interview that he was still working with Mike Michaud, CEO of Channel Awesome. So the most likely outcome is that CA will close down and a new site focusing only on Critic is going to replace it. NC isn’t going anywhere, folks.
WhenCornAttacks i dont understand what's happening. Where can I go to find out?
google?
WhenCornAttacks I hope you're right my friend! Because without NC there's no CA...
Mike owns the rights to Nostalgia Critic so he would have to call it something else.
WhenCornAttacks actually no that’s not gonna happen because what might happen is the site may change but not the channel itself
'You once asked me for advice. You want some now? Never pass up a good thing.'
Coincidentally, the book actually was a social commentary, and was quite good.
I've not read it, but I heard the book was straight up militarily propaganda- basically everything this movie is satirising.
@@yortlebluzzgubbly3871 The opposite, the book was actually a lot deeper, and is a good commentary on the future of liberal ideas. It even predicted the collapse of democracy, and offered a libertarian dream state. The point of military service was actually a larger civil service program that happened to be militaristic only because they were at war. People completed the civil service program to earn the right to vote, which was supposed to be statement on the problem of universal franchise. The book even toys with the idea on why they would have to select fewer people to vote, and its conclusion was that only people willing to sacrifice time and life towards society were meant to make policy decisions, because unlike intelligence or charisma it displays a form of virtue towards wanting to serve society and the system. You can disagree with the outcome, but a lot of the steps preceding that system were very prescient, showing the problems of all the other alternative outcomes considered. Universal suffrage led to a Clockwork Orange style dystopia, the Revolt of The Scientists (basically a meritocracy of only the intelligent being in political power) was short-lived because they were too self-serving, and regression into despotism couldn't protect human rights.
The director of the movie famously said he didn't even read the book, and someone tried to summarize a part of it for him so he could decide to make the tone a joke on propaganda. The problem is, he was so honest in its portrayal that you can even notice that it's actually terrible propaganda, because it's too accurate from the novel. We can see where the libertarian paradise shines through, in news stories where the reporter is killed by aliens (shockingly honest where any controlled propaganda would never show the details of a defeat), to arguments about the potential humanity or at least intelligence about the bugs (where one character from a talk show even uses the "I'm offended!" statement of more modern sociopolitics just to ignore the possibility). The thing is, the bugs attacked without warning a peaceful colony on Klendathu, and then did a surprise strike on Earth, which is where we see the counterattack beginning to form, which is why the Fleet didn't even know how to safely navigate to Klendathu in the movie. The news stories showed the attack, and instead of whipping people into a fury via a Hitler-esque speech by the military commander, the military commander is publicly sacked (never would happen in propaganda where they would pretend that it never happened and no one made mistakes) and the replacement shows that the military was accountable to the citizens by promising their full efforts.
That's actually what makes the movie cool, is because the style is very pronounced, but if you dissected it like anyone would dissect propaganda, it would actually show that the reality within was more reasonable than the tone would make it seem.
@@afelias That sounds like a terrible system. I don't entirely disagree with the idea of a civil service program to earn the right to vote (there obviously should be exceptions, like if you work a full time job or volunteer to homeless shelters or whatever), but the government should never include military service as part of this. I'd find it pretty fucked up to have serve in a government that is willing to throw my life away, and I wouldn't want to die for a government I don't have faith in.
@@accomplisheddiplomat4091 In the book, the Mobile Infantry is not the cannon-fodder troops we see in the movie. The book shows them off as Special Forces, clad in power armor described as "iron gorillas". If you were MI in the book, you were a massive badass. Then again, the book only have 1 fight scene. It was mainly a sci-fi story to let the writer share his political opinion after a failed political run.
"Lee Ermey is too busy filming the frighteners"
@
shows the main villain from frighteners in a next scene played by Gary Busey Jr
I was thinking the same thing man >.=.
'Count Olaf's impression of Neil Patrick Harris pretending to be straight'
Moar fun facts: The guy that played Zim is the Voice actor for Mr. Krabbs and was the villain of the Dexter: New Blood. He's in a lot of voice acting roles really, but imagine this is what Mr. Krabbs meant with his 'Navy days'
Klendathu, 80,000 light years away, capable of launching slow moving asteroids that reach Earth in a couple of weeks. Those bugs are using stargates, sarge!
I thought of that as a propaganda scene that took advantage of a natural disaster. The asteroid came from the solar system but they blamed the bugs for it.
There was an animated Starship Troopers for a couple of years that explains the bugs are definitely responsible for asteroid attacks, but never explains how they move the asteroids across the galaxy at faster than light speeds. The Starship Trooper "world" essentially has the entire Milky Way galaxy about the size of the solar system.
Maybe it is intentionally made a bit ambiguous in the first movie.
And that the asteroid actually came from Klendathu got made canon by whatever hacks created the remaining entrances in this franchise, because they took everything at face value.
The human ships are able to travel a lot faster than light though with some kind of warp engine I presume. Maybe the bugs can replicate a similar way of travelling biologically, warping and folding the space somehow.
I haven't read the book and I don't know if there occurs a weaponized astroid and how this is explained.
The Arachnids don't need asteroids in the book. They are a legitimate space faring species in their own right, with technology rivaling humanity.
Goddamn Stargate using bugs!
I aspire to be a professional whipist
when the camera cut to Malcom cheesin with the whip in hand, i lost it lmaooo
Shouldn't you be fighting Agent Smith Neo? =|
Right cause people keep commenting "I thought you quit", the Channel probably has a backlog of NC videos to upload, so this means nothing
Thank you for acknowledging the intelligent move of a flushing company.
(thick southern voice) Well fancy seein' you here.
Tactical Steve (also thick southern voice) Ya got alotta balls showing your face round here boi
Omar Haggag (Another thick southern accent) Who, me or Steve?
The raging reviews must flow!
Malevelon creek… Malevelon creek… oh god why… oh dear sweet baby lord why… DAMN YOU JOEL! DAMN YOU!
Never forget the creek
Never forget....
I don't care what people say but this movie is still awesome!!
Definitely is.
I caught it on tv around 2 months ago and it was so much fun to watch would recommend it to anyone.
you need to watch the tv series roughnecks starship troopers.
zZBuild ProneZz Oh heck yeah. I've seen the whole series 3 times. I recommend to anyone.
Dan EvilRobot The best one!
Dina Meyer is hotter than Denise Richards in this movie.
Nirius Bosc I always thought the same! She was so hot!!
yup
FUCK! YES! But then She's hotter than Richards period.
And I say that as a gay man.
Oh hell yeah. She’s so much like the hot girl next door.
she still is!!
Go watch the red letter media video about it. They pretty much close the book on this being satire or not. Not that I ever understood how anyone could MISS the satire in this.
Walker has a proven track record of misunderstanding satire and allegory no matter its level of subtlety.
devilmikey00 doug already watched it and thats why he made this
They didn't see Robocop
that didn't have that big of a burgins to being the mech suits.....tell the animations since it easily (in a way) to show the mech suits like in the books will in a more modern but yet still keep close to the classic
I never noticed the satire until I was older, watching it when I was ten you just see heroic humans fighting a truly evil enemy.
“Well people are starting to realize this movie is brilliant.”
“There’s no one talking about it.”
“People will.”
That aged amazingly well
"Consenting friends & neighbors?"
"Then it wouldn't be a surprise would it" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Major Misfit best part of the video lol
Doug's legs are so white I tough the shadow projected by the desk were trousers.
Input one of his Vanilla Ice jokes lol
Hiro Carupu You "tough the shadow"? What does that mean?
Same
How does one "tough the shadow"?
Grand Kaiju Gamer it's obviously a typo you know what they meant
I don't think I've laughed that hard at a NC review in a long time. The jokes were hard hitting, consistent, and just all around top notch. I don't think there was a better time to bring back Boomer, albeit if only to lay it to rest. Thanks for all that you do NC team.
The Whipping guy bit killed me.
aaand the "planet spaceball" line.
Here's hoping to many more years of hilarity from them to come.
Agreed!
Doug predicted it would one day be relevant, and it kind of is because of helldivers. This is appearing in my recommended after all.
Dizzy (Dina Meyer) was and still is way more attractive than Denise Richards.
TheScholar74 she did a movie once where she wears a leather catsuit....I think it was called federal protection
This movie reminds me of Wing Commander 2 or 3 with Hamill, has that vibe
In this movie? No. Overall? Yes
Fuck yes. She was a babe and Denise was fake looking
Hell Yeah
15:00 Critic: "Who the hell invited the Mad Hatter to this conversation?"
Me: "Would you believe this debate started over an un-birthday?"
15:50 - "Sweetie, get mommy's bazooka!"
Oof! Thats not funny. Thats not...
Puddin’, company! Hello there, welcome to our happy home.
I LOVE BATMAN BEYOND RETURN OF THE JOKER
"Eye on the other hand..."
pffft
That cut from Starship Troopers to the Simpsons was perfect!
Gestapo Patrick Harris had me in tears!
He already looked and sounded so young, but the ridiculous uniform made him look like he was playing dress up in daddy's clothes.
Heil Patrick Harris
The soldier "who got away", actually quit the Corp.. & then doing so, ruined any chance of her career goal in the process. Rico, chose to stay in the Corp. With that, he had to receive his punishment.
yea Rico could've quit and not dealt with the consequences.
@SCHOOL SHOOTER Actually, the citizenship in this universe is earned through "Federal service", and it is not JUST the military. There are various jobs that you do that are of use to the state but require a level of self-sacrifice and danger. Things included are also mining or gear testing. It is well described in the book. After the great war that almost destroyed the Earth, war veterans rose up and cleaned up the corrupt political systems that led to the pointless war in the first place. Now, if you want do have a say in what happens in a country, you need to serve that country.
You need to put the benefit of all before yourself, that is why those potentially harmful jobs (like miner or soldier) are the ways you earn citizenship. Because if you don't show the required level of selfless care for the community, you are not allowed to make decisions for it.
There is a deep concept of it in the book - that is the reason why the author was considered fascist in his time and why the film decided to go more on the parody trail than the actual book.
Because, the core political ideas the author portrayed in the book actually make you think (if you are smart enough) about different concepts of governance and who has the right to actually make decisions. Everyone? Then by the law of chance you get many idiots voting. The smartest ones? They usually make decisions based on raw numbers and no empathy which is not a good way to govern.
The film touches a bit on it all and if you watch it as only a parody, you ain't gonna notice it. It wouldn't even occur to some modern snowflakes. But there is some of it on the film. Book? It is full of it. The whole concept of sacrifice and service and benefits it gives you are maybe the prime theme of the book, along with general war, which, while secondary, is important. The best book to go with "Starship troopers" is, IMHO, "The Forever War".
While Starship troopers touches a bit on the war as a whole (reasons, conduct, effect on people) it focuses mostly on the ethics of the society it is developing in, while Forever War heavily focuses on war and (unknown) reasons of it, and the effect it has on people returning from it. A brilliant use of science and physics to present the evolution of society that soldiers return to, unable to fit in again.
Even if the Starship Troopers had some over the top feel, it is actually a very deep film raising many questions if you sit down and think about it all. Even on its own. And if you go through a book, damn, you are in for a treat.
SCHOOL SHOOTER those words don't mean what you think they do kid.
SCHOOL SHOOTER. Yes because obviously anyone who works a real job for a living would vote in a party who takes all of their hard earned money and gives it to the lazy and ungrateful....
Have you ever worked. Like not a fast food job or retail but like in a mine or factory or mill? Why would you voluntarily give your stuff yo people who didn't earn it?
Commies only get elected by lazy people.
And to be fair to the lore, in both the movies and the book that is the whole point. while money isn't an issue in this future war was. So a group of veterans got together to protect their town from looting and then moved on to become a world government with the simple idea that "A person who has never been in the serves and doesn't understand the weight of sending soldiers to their deaths should not be allowed a voice in the discussion of sending people to their deaths." (horrible over simplification but you get the point)
and military services wasn't the only way to become a citizen, the book makes a huge deal about if a deaf, dumb, and blind person wanted to serve they would find them a job counting rice in Antarctica with chopsticks. because they were equal opportunity, but their job is to make you earn it through hardship. like the scene at 7:45 the reason he talked to every recruit and got to know them is because his job is to scare people, who don't have the chops, off. in the book he didn't wear his prosthetic arm during sing in, and then when Rico bumps into him after hours the guy is in super high tech prosthetic and tells him "now that your in i don't have to scare you away"
Woah woah woah, was that a Red VS Blue reference from NC? And an OLD one at that! I didn't expect that at all! see at 9:55
What's the time stamp on that?!
9:56
9:55
RvB Season 1
The first teamkill by Caboose, reported by Tucker.
Ctrl+F+U
Not my fault church did it
That wasn't a reference, that was a video clip. Unless you're referring to something other than: 9:56
Who's here after Helldivers 2?!
Meeeee
Me me me me me!
Get ready for some negative comments against Doug walker, even though there are many rumors I still like nostalgia critic and I’m gonna continue to watch it as I’ve been doing since I was little
Jake Hollis amen man!
same bro
Same here!
Jake Hollis agreed,i really dont understand the hate when its channel awesome and not doug walker thats the problem
Same here
Darkseid and Lex Luthor as commanders? Now that’s terrifying.
I always get giddy with a Red vs Blue reference.
Gat the Man, you killed church you team killing fuk
"Everyone will be talking about this in the future!" How very prescient.
Nostalgia Critic is so good. Sad to think it might be coming to an end. I hope Doug and Rob find a way to keep doing it on their own if they have to.
it's not ending
sebastian guerrero you're right. In the end they're probably going to sack Michaud and try to right the ship
I hope so...you never know what will happen when litigation is involved
These comments aged beautifully. 👌
I remember the book as being the sci-fi series to popularize power armor and space marines. So if you don’t like it, at least appreciate it for almost all of modern military sci-fi.
Connor Walters the book is amazing. And while i did like the movie the first time i saw it, it changed a lot after i read the book and found out that the director of this movie did not.
The absence of the suits drastically changed the story
I.e made it worse. Power armor is awesome... until early to mid 2000s game developers kept plugging up all of AAA gaming’s orifices with them, making them cliched and boring.
RvB is my favorite of these sci-fi military series.
The director read part of it, he didn't read the rest because he thought it was "boring". I wanted to see a Filipino Juan Rico and the power armor but we got a movie where soldiers are fighting a one sided battle
"THE ENEMY CANNOT PUSH YOUR BUTTON IF YOU DISABLE HIS HAND!"
Epicly cheesy
This movie literally predicted 9/11 and the subsequent war in the middle East. It's absolutely brilliant in its satire of America.
This film very clearly criticizing American foreign policy, and America's jingoistic culture. It's an film with such subversive commedy that everyone missed the point.
I even have a strong belief that the asteroid supposedly sent by the bugs was in fact a rogue asteroid that happened to hit Earth, and was blamed on the bugs simply as an excuse to go to war, and as propaganda to find the war effort.
The fact is that it would be physically impossible for the bugs to accurately launch an asteroid across the galaxy. It would take billions of years for it to reach Earth and would be next to impossible to accurately shoot. Paul Verhoven has a degree in physics, so I imagine he is aware of how impossible this is.
Additionally we never see the bugs actually weaponizing asteroids even during the invasion of their planet.
I also believe the asteroids destruction of Buenos Aires was meant to satirize the destruction of the USS Maine which the U.S. blamed on Spain as an excuse for war, and as recruitment propaganda. However it was discovered that in reality the Maine was destroyed when one of its own boilers exploded.
Dude this movie satirizes totalitarian propaganda - like the nazi or soviet movies. (which the author himself mentions). Just watch some of them to understand what the author was trying to communicate. (won't be a pleasant experience, tho) The arguments you bring up are based on your worldview and the ability of your pattern-seeking brain to draw connections.
That is extreme levels of reaching.
The asteroid hits precisely Buenos Aires, a center of opposition to the earth government (shown by the antimilitary position of Rico's parents). It is no rogue asteroid, and it is certainly not sent halfway across the universe by the bugs, it is sent by the earth government. They are killing two birds with one very big stone: rallying everyone against the bugs by pretending they sent it, and destroying a center of opposition on earth.
I’ll remember you Doug... When you don’t have to...
Same here
Doug has alzheimers now?! Ohhhh NOOO!!
Fun fact, the black chick married the guy she shot in the head.
So you're telling us it was love at first blood?
😵
GrahamChapman ha!
And the stunt woman that doubled for Dina Meyer got married to Jake Busey and they had a kid in 2012
John Anderson well done, well done
actually Starship Troopers is a masterpiece.
especially what is happening in the world right now, i actually find it quite revolutionary
k2d10tode11 I find you quite pretentious
EXACTLY!!! all we need now is giant bugs to rain fire down from the sky
Say what you will, I think this should've just been an original film instead of as a satire of such a hugely influential book that, from what I gather, the director didn't even fully read but simply threw away halfway through and stuck to a story summary. The author may not have been the most progressive person on earth, but he wasn't simply saying "fascism is good, kids!"; plus a lot of your favorite sci-fi media would either not exist or be far less good without it. I get why the director would dislike it given what he lived through, but it still feels kind of dickish to me.
They are just bugs... hehe
@ThePitZajat Read the newspaper.
its funny how people are just now discovering or rediscovering Starship Troopers, with the release of Helldivers 2 game that has so many things inspired from the film!
17:57 You ain't got no legs, Lt. Dan!
T'is but a flesh wound
LindleKindle he jests at scars that never felt a wound.
Intro by: Fard Muhammad
*looks up that name*
He was born in 1877
EvAn Ze Geek VA hes immortal and he controls the mortal minds.
I think that may be a different Fard
He's not-so-secretly friends with the Doctor.
Muhammad is like Jesus in Spanish speaking American countries so probably there are 3847401 people with that name alive today
What a coincidence. My farts were also born in 1877.
So you've reviewed
Alien resurrection
Alien vs predator
Mars attacks
Tommyknockers
And now starship troopers
Still waiting on
Alien vs predator requiem
SJ RANKS we're better off forgetting that ever existed.
Oh no...
I want a bumper stick that reads “Hello I’m the nostalgia critic guy, remember it so you don’t have to.”
I'd think I'd prefer one that says "Hello, I'm the Nostalgia Critic. I remember it so you don't have to."
I wouldn't expect anything peaceful if Sam Fisher was my teacher
that and Darkseid
Whoa shit! Unless Doug has started pre-recording his reviews, I don't think Nostalgia Critic is going anywhere anytime soon! I thought the American Tail: Fievel Goes West review was gonna be the last one!
+SupremeChaos918 Same here. He still has to catch up to the very recent Steven Universe episodes, and I wanna see him react to more disturbing Britain commercials.
Give it a month or two
+Gary Turbo To see if he's gone or not?
Thats how many episodes they have left
+Gary Turbo So, is the rumor true? Are we getting close to the series finale of Nc? And does that mean there will be no more through the rest of 2018?
I’m just waiting for a Norbit review
Doug left these videos are backlogged
Patrick Quinn Proof
there should be a eddie murphy month -norbit, daddy day care, beverly hills cop 3 and nutty professor 2
bruh drake Most of the proof is shakey and most of it can be debunked but of course people are going crazy about it
like i said myself they do need to put food on their table and a roof over their heads. don't bite the hand that feeds you
And can we just talk about how amazing the Klendatho Drop song is. It truly fills you with courage to go marching off too war for the good of the Federation.
Read the book and you'll understand more. The book is a critique on life in thr 50's-60's, and not just on facisim but on American society as well. The book was very controversial as it asked questions that no one wanted to ask like on cruel and unusual punishment.
The movie pokes fun at the book but also critiques militarism as a whole.
Wait what? What's the difference between the movie and the book then. If they both portray society the same way, where is the movie poking fun at the book?
Oskar Skog the book shows the Terran Federation as a good thing, while the movie basically satires that idea.
Well for starters, Rico is a Filipino in the book and not a blue eyed Aryan lol that and to become a Citizen doesn't mean you have to join the military. Military Service is in the minority for those with the franchise to vote.
Original Halo
I think Halo's more Aliens, but to a degree you're certainly correct.
Also a little bit of Warhammer.
@@InternetMameluq the bugs are like the tyranids
thatrandomguy
Yes. Although it'd be better to say the Tyranids are like the bugs. TBH I don't know much about that age of Sci-fi, so I don't know which hive mind of bugs is closest to WH:40K
I say this is more like HELLDIVERS (game not ODSTs).
This was the film that made Starcraft popular for me. Loved the movie so much that when Starcraft came out, I played the shit out of it lol
For those wondering. The state of NC is unclear. Many are saying Doug has left and these current video's are pre-recorded. I've also heard this is the last pre-recorded video.
How true that is is unknown. We will just have to wait sand see if more NC is posted on Channel Awesome or not.
Well ever since Obscurus Lupas admitted that she was lying about the whole thing at that convention everybody was able to drop the ordeal and move on.
Well, seeing how some have said the same about the last video it's unclear how far the back-logged videos go. All I know is if you say it's gonna rain every day then you'll eventually be right.
Ya. We have to wait until either the back log runs out or Doug himself makes an announcement.
Personally I can't see them having a backlog that lasts more then another 4 or so episodes.
I'll take things that never happened for $100 Alex.
shadowspider9 But how can Doug leave Channel Awesome? Didn’t he create it?
5 years later the video game Helldivers 2 would like a word with you.
Not a single Invader Zim joke with the drill instructor being called Zim and saving the day. For shame.
i agree
NC was born in the 70s not the 90s. Wouldn't have the same pop culture familiarity with it.
Shaaaame
I was born in the 70s, and I was a fan of Invader Zim.
He made a Count Olaf joke during this review though. Granted he made a review on that movie. I wonder if he is ever gonna do a video on the Netflix series.
saw an NC Review for one of my favorite movies of all time FUCK YES
Plot Twist: The ferret ends up being the hero
While we're on the subject: have you done a review of StarShip Troopers Chronicles Roughnecks? I feel that is due for your worth, yes
It is actually very good.
And in 2024 Helldivers 2 was released, and people finally appreciate starship troopers
This whole video was worth that one Red vs Blue reference
Amanda Cathey I didn’t even think Critic knew about RvB.
Amanda Cathey you still watch them? ... Cause I still do lol
Lord Zephyros Fuck Yes
He's mentioned them before.
Same but for the Space Mutiny reference.
Verhoeven survived nazi occupied Netherlands as a little kid. Robocop and Starship Troopers both have a bit of political commentary in the middle of the awesome.
Starship Trooper is based off a novel. While reading it with a friend, Verhoeven's friend commented that the militaristic, world government, political/military elite rulers remind him a lot about fascism. There, the director decided to add a little satire to the sci-fi movie. Hence the propaganda scenes intercalated with the movie scenes. Also, it's speculated that the earth government itself dropped that meteor in order to rile the population against the bugs.
BTW.
Dizzy was hotter than Carmen.
Dizzy was most definitely hotter than Carmen. Well said.
Lmao because looks are the only thing that matters when choosing a girl right? You sound like a 12 year old.
And you are also wrong, Carmen is hotter 🤣
His friend was grossly mistaken about the book. Verohoven himself said he found the book boring.
The script was actually not Starship Troopers originally. It had some other generic name like "Slaughter at Outpost 9" or something along those lines. The script was basically Frankenstein retrofitted with a few elements from the books.
Dizzy for example, is a name of a character in the book, but she is actually a he.
It would actually be really awesome to see a proper adaption of the original story.
Of the two, Dizzy was definitely hotter. Not just because of her looks, but because she could play rough and handle some heavy shit. Carmen didn't impress me with how quickly she turned against Rico.
Tomboy FTW?
esbeekay "choosing a girl"
Lol
21:30 That was a perfect chance for a Invader Zim joke. "I AM ZIM!" Lol
Actually he's Lex Luthor and Mr. Krabs XD
THANK YOU! That or VICTORY! VICTORY FOR ZIM! would've worked!
i have more that crosswalk scene in mind where dib keeps saying "zim" over and over again -until zim throws a sandwhich at em....
superzilla784 VICTORY FOR ZIM!!!
I saw this movie when i was like 9 years. Never though about it in deep, and liked it cause i love Starcraft and Warhammer, so for me was kinda like that. I saw it again like 5 years ago and once i get some of the meaning i was like "really, this dumb flick actually has a deeper meaning".
Cause i agree with Doug, once you get a grasp on how goverment propaganda works it seems the movie is more than a cluster fuck of cliches. I mean, for example, in the video were they tell You about where the bugs are they, LITERALLY are on the other side of a fucking entire galaxy, but somehow... If the humans don't strike first the bugs will come a destroy ALL people... Sounds familiar? What do humans know about the insects? Why fight with them to begin with? We have no real compelling reasons to hate the bugs, far as we know they are only feral creatures attacking humans when they close in. That black girl didn't care about the safety of the people or anything like that, She's there cause she wanted to be a politician and her idiocy killed a young guy, isn't that a metaphor of politicians killing young soldiers by being shameless dicks? Why there's human bases in a bug planet? Isn't that an invation of their planet in the first place. Why the intelligence division are such cunts that they KNOW they send people to their sure deads?... For sure is not a masterfull satire but i think is more than a movie with aliens and guns.
Most of the members are there for personal gain than anything else, for example to gain citizenship under The Federation(R) they must serve The Military(TM) first, after that they can unlock a LOT of possible achievments in life. Some of them are like Carmen (who wanted to be a military pilot) and truly want to serve their nations, but others are like the black chick, entering service just because it is an installed requirement for a better civilian career. Rico and Dizzy on the other hand are there just for romantic reasons and Ironside is there because he believes The Federation's(R) ideals.
On a side note to this, it might seem that Ricco got the worst part by getting wiped while the actual murderer of the former companion and soldier just got expelled from The Military(TM), but in reality Ricco got it easy because he could still serve and achieve citizenship while the black chick would end up having a hard time (to say the least while being uber-optimistic about it) trying to reach his dream job or a decent career, since she ended up having a black mark in her record under The Military(R).
As a last comment I will say that the reason behind the massacre in Klendathu is this: The Federation(R) as any militarized government, NEEDS an enemy in order to keep the population focusing their effors in the fighting and hating instead of the THINKING. So, in order to have the world united in hate against the "bugs" and at the same time, to throw 'war bounds' to The Military(TM) in order to have the "Revenge Machine" in movment, a sacrifice was required. Showing thousands of soldiers destroyed by the bugs is more convincing than ANYTHING the Propaganda Crew could put up on the global television.
So yeah, as you know, there is a LOT of subtext into this film, wich a LOT of people missed the first time it got 'aired' on theaters. (for example, like what happened to Carpenter's The Thing)
EDIT: Fixed some grammar errors, but since I am a native spanish speaker who learned english by accident (watching movies with subtitles) and NOT by studing it, heavy loads of fuckups per paragraph are a POSIBILITY.
The black chick "killed" that guy because Rico had him remove his helmet. The guy wouldn't have been hit if he still had the helmet on.
@@amehak1922 The guy was hit in the face by the bullets, he probably would have died even with the helmet.
I see Mike's dumping out all the films they made in a last minute cash grab as CA falls apart all around him.
Doug still has to work for channel awesome for now. But he will probably leave as soon as he is able too.
I loved this "Archie and the gang goes to war" movie when it first came out. Laughed throughout the film. I had just gotten out of the Marine Corps when I saw this and recognized all the satire immediately. You really can't take this movie seriously in order to enjoy it.
Devil you know what is hysterical. "Starship Troopers" is on the Enlisted recommended reading list. So young hardchargers will just watch the movie and write their essay not knowing. Constant source of hijinks to this day lol
I wanna see Mike put on a hat and tie and start calling himself Nostalgia Critic just so I can point and laugh ALL the way from Doug's new future channel.
Same here
Lool, that would be amazing.
it would be funnier if larry bundy jr. dressed up as every person who was on channel awesome and do all of the videos like nothing happened
Larry, winner of the first channel awesome hunger games
redtygr14 what makes you think he's going to make a TH-cam channel? And what makes you think even if he does that he will continue doing "reviews"?
Thank you Doug Walker for NOT including Starship Troopers: Roughneck as the bad spin off series. It is an amazing series that I watch every year!