Impressive amount of research. Nothing like getting all the facts and specs on hand for an informed decision. I'm so surprised how much the BP-51s have gone up in price. I considered them 2yrs ago when I refreshed my 80 Series suspension, but decided against them due to price (plus I don't do hard wheeling - more a tourer and do not tow). I noticed you're getting fancy (ie. good) at your editing. Onya mate. 👍
Great vid Brother. Love the knowledge you shared on this one. Definitely sound like the suspension is worth having a crack hey. Thanks for sharing Brother.
Nice one.! I hope you gave them a tune up about the wheel nuts, that’s bullshit. Should only be 110nm, can stretch and damage wheel studs hitting them with a rattle gun that much.
Foam cell iron man's? I've ran them, the mt's have been bullet proof, I feel like perhaps they are valved a little stiff but with that comes control. They've been good.
@ yeh Ironman, I watched “the tinkerers adventure “ vid on them and his take makes perfect sense. The BP51 are very popular but I feel that plastic shield is ridiculous. The Tinkerer convinced me that larger piston and twin tube are the way to go.
Hey mate , great video. I just bought a the same Ute as you. I am just wondering what shocks/ lift to put into it. I just go hunting in western qld roads are pretty shitty out there . Cheers mate
G'day mate, it's a bit hard to say without knowing what weight you'll be carrying etc... just make sure your front and rear springs are the correct spring rate for the weight of your rig. A 2 inch lift would probably suit you fine, you don't have to go crazy spending money if you don't want to. Even just OME nitro sport shocks are good in my opinion. There's some other good brands around. The best thing to do. Is find a good reputable suspension shop that knows what their doing and will set your rig up properly.
@@OutbackOffroadNT thanks mate for the reply, It will be pretty light, just a mw tray and 950mm canopy with a fridge and camping stuff. I also have a 60L water tank going under the tray. But thanks I will just have to do some research and ask around. Cheers mate
Top stuff mate! I got my MT64’s fitted yesterday as a pre rego GVM upgrade of 3780kg 400kg parabolics with airbags in the rear. Gets registered next week sometime so haven’t driven it yet. Did you change the steering damper? If not that’ll make a huge difference to the wandering you talk about. Did you go airbags as well? Tomorrow the 9/6/24 ARB will release the MK2 Summit Bar for the new 70 Series, that’s the bar in waiting for 🤙🏻
@@ARCHIES_79_LC thanks mate, interesting, my quote is 7.2k with castor kit but NO gvm upgrade, that's with 800kgs paras though. What was their price for the 400kg paras, the 800s are $790 each.
Going with at least 3 inch is usually the go, however, yes you can get away with a 2 inch lift, you may need to modify a couple things to clear tyres properly depending on what bullbar you are running for example.
Cheers mate, I'm not a fan of airbags, may make a video on this subject 🤔 ive looked at parabolics but don't like the low leaf and yeah they are expensive.
@@OutbackOffroadNT cheers, the ARB parabolics which are new on the scene don't have that bottom load leaf like other brands, instead they use their own designed airbags, which are interesting as they have an internal progressive bump stop so can be run flat.
Your bloody right mate I totally forgot about that, I did have a yarn to ARB about this setup, but because the air bags have to be run with the parabolics I wasn't really interested.
Chassis issues mate, adding something that wasn't engineered to be there, in my boilermaker days I repaired a few telstra and power and water patrols running airbags with bent chassis. I also really like all things to be as simple as possible, and airbags can be a suspension limiter in regards to movement/flex. I'm a big believer of getting your spring rates bang on for the weight your carrying and not relying on pumping up air bags to counter heavy weight. I understand everyone is different though and may tow etc...
Enjoy your vids. I'm trying to decide between the MT64 & BP51s. Dont mind spending the extra $1200 if they're worth it. What do you think now having had both? Is it a big advantage being able to get the rebound & compression just right? I'll be towing a snall van with a 79 single cab.
Thanks mate, look tbh I can't really say as I've only had these MT64'S on for bugger all, I don't want to give you wrong info. What sort of driving and terrain will you be driving? The BP's are great but not entirely necessary imo.
Right well, you would definitely benefit from either the BP'S or the MT's purely because they are big robust shocks with plenty of oil to combat heat and shock fade on rough stuff, eg corrugations. Just get those spring rates spot on for your weight and make sure your running the correct shocks with the right valving to match the springs. I'd honestly say it's really up to you and which shock you prefer mate. Maybe the BP'S would be of benefit to you travelling slower on rough stuff the ability to fine tune the compression and rebound would be great.
Generally the shocks will be matched to the spring rates, so say you ask for 600kg constant leaf packs and front coils to suit the weight of a bar, the correct shocks will be fitted with the springs
Yeah fair enough, I reckon their 2 poster on the v8 scoop model looks the biz, dunno about these new models though, seems hard to find the right bar that looks good.
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Impressive amount of research. Nothing like getting all the facts and specs on hand for an informed decision. I'm so surprised how much the BP-51s have gone up in price. I considered them 2yrs ago when I refreshed my 80 Series suspension, but decided against them due to price (plus I don't do hard wheeling - more a tourer and do not tow). I noticed you're getting fancy (ie. good) at your editing. Onya mate. 👍
Cheers mate, I did like the BP51 setup but yes very expensive.
Great video and observation Mate!
Great vid Brother. Love the knowledge you shared on this one.
Definitely sound like the suspension is worth having a crack hey.
Thanks for sharing Brother.
Cheers mate, yeah I think it'll be good gear.
Nice one.!
I hope you gave them a tune up about the wheel nuts, that’s bullshit. Should only be 110nm, can stretch and damage wheel studs hitting them with a rattle gun that much.
Yeah I'm wild about that hey, this is half the reason I like doing my own work.
@@OutbackOffroadNT oath bro ! I’m the exact same.
Either way , sweet as vid though 🤙
So now you’ve had the MT’s on for a few months what’s your opinion, I’m tossing up between the MT and Foam Cell
Foam cell iron man's? I've ran them, the mt's have been bullet proof, I feel like perhaps they are valved a little stiff but with that comes control. They've been good.
@ yeh Ironman, I watched “the tinkerers adventure “ vid on them and his take makes perfect sense. The BP51 are very popular but I feel that plastic shield is ridiculous. The Tinkerer convinced me that larger piston and twin tube are the way to go.
Looks very good man
Thanks 👍
Great video mate 👍👍🍺
Cheers Benny!
Hey mate tried out those tyre pressures you did on a previous vid and what a difference thanks for the tips
That's awesome mate, no worries at all glad I could help.
Nice setup. Sure you will like it. 45k on the clock already? Wow
Not hard to do in NT
Yeah majority of those km's is for work! Bloody poor old girl clocking up the mileage.
Hey mate , great video. I just bought a the same Ute as you. I am just wondering what shocks/ lift to put into it. I just go hunting in western qld roads are pretty shitty out there . Cheers mate
G'day mate, it's a bit hard to say without knowing what weight you'll be carrying etc... just make sure your front and rear springs are the correct spring rate for the weight of your rig. A 2 inch lift would probably suit you fine, you don't have to go crazy spending money if you don't want to. Even just OME nitro sport shocks are good in my opinion. There's some other good brands around. The best thing to do. Is find a good reputable suspension shop that knows what their doing and will set your rig up properly.
@@OutbackOffroadNT thanks mate for the reply, It will be pretty light, just a mw tray and 950mm canopy with a fridge and camping stuff. I also have a 60L water tank going under the tray. But thanks I will just have to do some research and ask around. Cheers mate
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G'day mate, I don't have them but I hear good things about them.
Good vid mate 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Top stuff mate! I got my MT64’s fitted yesterday as a pre rego GVM upgrade of 3780kg 400kg parabolics with airbags in the rear. Gets registered next week sometime so haven’t driven it yet. Did you change the steering damper? If not that’ll make a huge difference to the wandering you talk about. Did you go airbags as well? Tomorrow the 9/6/24 ARB will release the MK2 Summit Bar for the new 70 Series, that’s the bar in waiting for 🤙🏻
what did that set you back mate, and did they fit offset bushes?
@@markh6676 6.8k for the GVM upgrade, also comes with a castor kit.
@@ARCHIES_79_LC thanks mate, interesting, my quote is 7.2k with castor kit but NO gvm upgrade, that's with 800kgs paras though. What was their price for the 400kg paras, the 800s are $790 each.
@@markh6676 $555 Each for the 400kg parabolics.
@@markh6676 $555 Each for the 400kg parabolics.
Do you think a 2 inch lift would be sufficient for 35 inch tires on this vehicle?
Going with at least 3 inch is usually the go, however, yes you can get away with a 2 inch lift, you may need to modify a couple things to clear tyres properly depending on what bullbar you are running for example.
Nice vid and info. Did you look at their new parabolic / airbag system? A couple of grand dearer but apparently a great ride.
Cheers mate, I'm not a fan of airbags, may make a video on this subject 🤔 ive looked at parabolics but don't like the low leaf and yeah they are expensive.
@@OutbackOffroadNT cheers, the ARB parabolics which are new on the scene don't have that bottom load leaf like other brands, instead they use their own designed airbags, which are interesting as they have an internal progressive bump stop so can be run flat.
Your bloody right mate I totally forgot about that, I did have a yarn to ARB about this setup, but because the air bags have to be run with the parabolics I wasn't really interested.
@@OutbackOffroadNT yeah I get the concern with airbags. For you, is it more they could fail or that they may cause chassis issues? Or something else.
Chassis issues mate, adding something that wasn't engineered to be there, in my boilermaker days I repaired a few telstra and power and water patrols running airbags with bent chassis. I also really like all things to be as simple as possible, and airbags can be a suspension limiter in regards to movement/flex. I'm a big believer of getting your spring rates bang on for the weight your carrying and not relying on pumping up air bags to counter heavy weight. I understand everyone is different though and may tow etc...
Here in Victoria they say it’s illegal to run extended shackles.?
Interesting.
Can you get a cover for the rod? The exposed rod concerns me a bit?
Rear shocks have a guard just like the BP51 setup, fronts don't really need it.
Enjoy your vids. I'm trying to decide between the MT64 & BP51s. Dont mind spending the extra $1200 if they're worth it. What do you think now having had both? Is it a big advantage being able to get the rebound & compression just right? I'll be towing a snall van with a 79 single cab.
Thanks mate, look tbh I can't really say as I've only had these MT64'S on for bugger all, I don't want to give you wrong info. What sort of driving and terrain will you be driving? The BP's are great but not entirely necessary imo.
@@OutbackOffroadNT thks, we do a fair bit of off-road & corrugations etc but we don't hammer down the tracks as we tow a single axle offroader.
Right well, you would definitely benefit from either the BP'S or the MT's purely because they are big robust shocks with plenty of oil to combat heat and shock fade on rough stuff, eg corrugations. Just get those spring rates spot on for your weight and make sure your running the correct shocks with the right valving to match the springs. I'd honestly say it's really up to you and which shock you prefer mate. Maybe the BP'S would be of benefit to you travelling slower on rough stuff the ability to fine tune the compression and rebound would be great.
@@OutbackOffroadNT thks again, if I go the MT64s will the valving be adjusted by ARB to suit the springs, or is that only possible with the BP51s?
Generally the shocks will be matched to the spring rates, so say you ask for 600kg constant leaf packs and front coils to suit the weight of a bar, the correct shocks will be fitted with the springs
I run basically the same setup with the same suspension but with a 1800mm canopy and my shackles sit the same even after 6 months 🤷🏻♂️ so who knows
Interesting mate, I reckon mine has settled a little already after a couple thousand km's of bush driving with varying loads.
So these are gas shocks right? Why not go for iron man pro foam . They run low pressure and rebuildable. I think Ironman underrated in my opinion
These are rebuildable, I prefer mono tube single wall shocks compared to twin wall like Ironman. I've ran ironman before and they were ok.
@@OutbackOffroadNT thanks mate I appreciate your thoughts
hey mate what size and offset rim are you now running?
16x8 0 offset front, neg 22 rear.
Did ARB fit a front sway bar spacer kit.
Sure did mate.
Well if the new front bar weighs a bit, it'll be an atd bar, right?
🤫 Some of their bars are bloody nice aye. Big dollars though...
Their weights aren't that bad for the 2 poster, 75kgs vs say TJMs at 77. ARBs is 50kgs but doesn't include a winch cradle like the other 2.
@OutbackOffroadNT I do like their bars, I'm not made of money though. Not into the double side rails at all.
Yeah fair enough, I reckon their 2 poster on the v8 scoop model looks the biz, dunno about these new models though, seems hard to find the right bar that looks good.
1:37 OME not ARB right?
Same
ARB owns and produces OME products.
@@OutbackOffroadNT 👍
What bullbar is coming mate? I'm trying to decide on one atm.
That's a big secret mate 🤫🤣 nah look my ARB deluxe bar is sitting in town, but I kinda want to change it, I'm not sure yet.
The same thoughts I had ,and put them on my 2024.5 ford ranger wildtrak with air bags
Beauty mate, how are you liking them on the ranger, have you gone bush with them much?
Do you live on the farm or in town?
Used to live on the station mate. In town atm.
Bro Dont let ARB touch your car EVER!!!