Just had these installed on my 21Taco LB Offroad along with leaf springs UCA's and bump stops. Trucks loaded for overlanding and took it wheeling today and what a difference. Interested to see how they perform this winter and I'm headed for the Cascades in a week or so. Overland Garage in Bremerton hit this out of the ball park for me.
What happened to the "comparison" part of the video? You mentioned your goal of comparing them to the BP-51.. end result? Bp-51 better than MT64 for overland? Great Vid!
Great question Aaron, unfortunately that didn’t make it into the final cut. For 90% of what we did the MT-64s worked just as well as the BP-51s. The only place I really noticed a difference was at speed in big ruts when the BP-51 did a better job resisting bottoming out. Cost for the BP-51s is about an extra $200 a shock, so if you have the cash and like to tinker and fine tune your suspension I still think the BP-51s are a good choice.
@@HarrySituations hopefully that will also include the older Rangers too! Mine is a 2021 model. By accommodating units compatible with older vehicles opens up market opportunities. Lets face it: very few owners of brand spanking new vehicles are going to change out stock suspension straight away. But for those with Older vehicles whose suspension is either wearing or waning - well thats where the bulk of the market will be…..
I thought that the ride quality was great and the rebound damping is perfect over stuff like speed bumps. With the heavy front bumper and winch I would probably add just a little more preload to minimize the brake dive.
They are 285/70R17 (non-LT) Nitto Ridge Grapplers on 17x8.5 SCS wheels. I think that the softer sidewall of the non-LT tires really helps with the ride compliance on things like washboard roads and embedded rocks.
Old Man Emu is only offering once spring rate now with height adjustments on the shock body. This results in less part numbers for vendors to stock but I do think if you have a winch and steel bumper a higher spring rate is valuable.
They offer different rear leaf springs for different weight but only one front coil spring rate. You can adjust the height in the front though to account for added weight.
Thank you for the awesome video Harry. I'm going to need shocks pretty soon, so I'll look into a set for my jeep.
Just had these installed on my 21Taco LB Offroad along with leaf springs UCA's and bump stops. Trucks loaded for overlanding and took it wheeling today and what a difference. Interested to see how they perform this winter and I'm headed for the Cascades in a week or so. Overland Garage in Bremerton hit this out of the ball park for me.
Nice! I have a friend in Reno that just ordered the MT64s as well.
The geography/naturalist type stuff is great to see in here.
Thanks for the feedback! Historically I have not included that kind of information but it is part of the appeal for me when exploring new areas.
Yeah! That was really refreshing !
What happened to the "comparison" part of the video? You mentioned your goal of comparing them to the BP-51.. end result? Bp-51 better than MT64 for overland? Great Vid!
Great question Aaron, unfortunately that didn’t make it into the final cut. For 90% of what we did the MT-64s worked just as well as the BP-51s. The only place I really noticed a difference was at speed in big ruts when the BP-51 did a better job resisting bottoming out. Cost for the BP-51s is about an extra $200 a shock, so if you have the cash and like to tinker and fine tune your suspension I still think the BP-51s are a good choice.
Those MT64 shocks look great. Wonder if they will fit my UK Ford Ranger Wildtrak MSRT? 2021 model.
They don’t have an application for the Ranger yet (just Toyotas). I would expect Broncos applications to come next and then Rangers.
@@HarrySituations hopefully that will also include the older Rangers too! Mine is a 2021 model. By accommodating units compatible with older vehicles opens up market opportunities. Lets face it: very few owners of brand spanking new vehicles are going to change out stock suspension straight away. But for those with Older vehicles whose suspension is either wearing or waning - well thats where the bulk of the market will be…..
Bilstein 6112's are 3 inch in diameter tho, so how are these better?
How is the on-pavement performance?
I thought that the ride quality was great and the rebound damping is perfect over stuff like speed bumps. With the heavy front bumper and winch I would probably add just a little more preload to minimize the brake dive.
Wanted to ask the million dollar question: do you remember the wheel/ tire size it was running?
They are 285/70R17 (non-LT) Nitto Ridge Grapplers on 17x8.5 SCS wheels. I think that the softer sidewall of the non-LT tires really helps with the ride compliance on things like washboard roads and embedded rocks.
So the mt64 is good out of the box for a “heavier” bumper? Or does it need a different spring.
Old Man Emu is only offering once spring rate now with height adjustments on the shock body. This results in less part numbers for vendors to stock but I do think if you have a winch and steel bumper a higher spring rate is valuable.
Ome UCA’s also?
That is correct. They add caster and use tubular construction with greasable bushings and high angle ball joints.
How many pounds can it withstand?
They offer different rear leaf springs for different weight but only one front coil spring rate. You can adjust the height in the front though to account for added weight.
@harry what’s the front spring rate?
always makes me laugh how americans say emu