I did a stage 2 on my 2021 RG and I left the stock air box because I like the look. I installed the Arlen Ness Big Sucker oval air filter that’s 1/4” wider than stock. It looks better than stock doesn’t break the bank and they estimate like 3% more HP. I don’t know I really don’t notice any difference power wise but When I twist the throttle I notice hearing the air pulling in a bit.
I like HD bike a lot. So, I went to visit a local HD dealership and they wanted to charge me a lot over MSRP. So, I eventually bought a 1/12 scale model and I have become a happy owner now ever since.
What is a half scale model? A Sportster? What did u get? I got robbed at the dealership 😭 I bought a 2021 street glide I may as well bought a CVO th-cam.com/users/shorts56ICq6jz6Yo?feature=share
i was going to keep mine but im going from 114 to 128ci. tuner said i would gain more with a better filter. K&N does make a wider filter element that fits it if you drill the holes in the tin. i went with a black S&S Stealth Air Stinger.
I like the one with the arm extension... wise idea for put the filter directly on the motor so it continuously suck hot air from the heads right back into combustion. (Losing usable power.) It looks nice and not anything near as restrictive as the others.
The stock 114 air filter is good for being a stock dry filter. I prefer the oiled K&N not only for the looks but also if I get caught in the rain as the oil will help to repel some of the water. You still want to put a rain sock on it as soon as possible especially if it is a heavy downpour, but on my last 3 bikes, I ran in the rain with no issues using an oiled K&N filter. For me, that makes it superior to the dry paper stock filter, and of course, the K&N is washable requiring just a reapplication of oil to it.
Supposedly these air cleaners are the same as the Screaming Eagle stage 2 that costs $400. The stock ones also look bad-ass. That is why the take-offs are selling fast and why I just bought one. The nameplates are easily swappable too, so you can change to like 6 different styles for about $90 each nameplate.
The issues with the big sucker might have to do with fuel standoff. It's possible that the radius flows better on a test stand. But I know the guys that build prostock drag cars who have to look at everything because they have displacement rules and everyone starts with similar equipment have observed wet flow inside of intake manifolds. If they run more than about an 8mm radius on the top of the runner into the manifold they see fuel separation and have sluggish engines. While the air filter is designer for air, there will be reversion and you may see a fuel cloud outside of the carburetor that backs up and sucks back in. The radius might be allowing this reversed air to allow the fuel mist to form droplets and wet the radius instead of staying in a better droplets size for combustion.
It's flows good and the OE is a good looking air cleaner, but it's kinda hard to vent the breathers externally with the backplate.....if that's something you want to do.
Just saw this video. I bought a used 2019 Fat Boy 114 last year with 250 miles on it with all kinds of chrome goodies. I replaced the cans and threw them in the garbage. Nobody would want stock cans and I didn't want them in my garage. The breather looks awesome on my bike and I am simply going to replace the filter.
I just put the screamin eagle ventilator breather on my 2019 road king special. I like the stock like look. Great video and I'm a new subscriber. Here to support a fellow moto content creator. Ride safe and all the best in 2022. 👍👊🇺🇸
I would thinkthe arlen ness element quality is better than the harley filter is....plus imo, the cycle filters look better than the oval ones do.. either way the fat Bob 114 is a killer awesome machine....
Thanks Bryce, good to know, like you know I have the Standard 107, and if I eventually stage up to 114, I'll get that air cleaner, like the way it looks
I had seen a post from Moonshine Harley about it a while back saying the stock air cleaner just wasn't flowing enough air, for a stock stage 1 your probably fine, I changed mine to a Ventilator extreme when I added the red shift 468 cam to increase flow.
That’s the stage 1 ventilator kit. I got the same filter when I did the stage one on my 2022 road glide. Does this now come stock on some new 114 bikes?
I have the bone stock 2018 Softail Deluxe 107 and did what you said and bought a stock 114 cleaner take-off just like yours. There is a 1/4" gap between the 114 backing plate and the throttle body!!! Does anybody know why it won't fit the 107?? Yes, I installed it correctly. Is there a Harley Davidson 1/4" thick gasket I need to buy? My dealer doesn't know jack. P.S. Nobody sells the take-offs for anywhere near $100. More like $220-300.
@Damien Frigo Do u have a cam , Catless header, and slip ons? I had been wandering how will I gain if I change from stock breather with added cams and slipons
@@71donkrider yeah running the 468 redshift cam / s&s oil pump / cam plate / vh big radius pipes with dyno tune , air filter does its job but bigger with a dyno tune will make the difference.
U won't be able to clean the stock filter since it is a paper element but if u upgrade to a rechargeable filter like K&N, you would want to pickup their recharge kit which has a cleaner fluid and oil along with detailed instructions.
@@aztriumphster Thanks for reply What about the k&n high flow wedge it fits in the stock 107 cover but has high flow air filter? I’m putting wood 22xe cam with 4.5 Rhinehart dbx slip ons removed cat from stock header pipe k&n high flow wedge air cleaner power vision tuner . Hoping to get 110hp and 115 pounds of torque from 107! You think that’s possible?
I have a 107 with rs468 cam and big sucker ac. I just replaced the big sucker with the stock 114 ventilator ac and like the looks and comfort alot more. I'm wondering if i change the stock filter to k&n is that will increase air flow much to equal the big sucker flow, or are they all close enough in air flow?
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Wow, that’s some awesome information that I haven’t ever seen anybody talk about thank you
Keeping my original filter on, and put the Arlen Ness big sucker on, I'm happy with that
I did a stage 2 on my 2021 RG and I left the stock air box because I like the look. I installed the Arlen Ness Big Sucker oval air filter that’s 1/4” wider than stock. It looks better than stock doesn’t break the bank and they estimate like 3% more HP. I don’t know I really don’t notice any difference power wise but When I twist the throttle I notice hearing the air pulling in a bit.
I like HD bike a lot. So, I went to visit a local HD dealership and they wanted to charge me a lot over MSRP. So, I eventually bought a 1/12 scale model and I have become a happy owner now ever since.
Boom! Solution. Yeah that markup stuff is nonsense.
What is a half scale model?
A Sportster? What did u get?
I got robbed at the dealership 😭 I bought a 2021 street glide I may as well bought a CVO
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pick one up used! Or maybe snatch one now. As winter approaches, Most dealers will negotiate a lot more leniently.
If I'm correct, the 114 Air cleaner on your bike is a Screaming Eagle air cleaner, which I put on my 107 which was part of a Stage 1 upgrade
i was going to keep mine but im going from 114 to 128ci. tuner said i would gain more with a better filter. K&N does make a wider filter element that fits it if you drill the holes in the tin. i went with a black S&S Stealth Air Stinger.
My stage 4 Fatbob was fitted with the ventilator filter, the only change was it had a K&N cotton filter inside.
I like the one with the arm extension... wise idea for put the filter directly on the motor so it continuously suck hot air from the heads right back into combustion. (Losing usable power.) It looks nice and not anything near as restrictive as the others.
It may suck hot air (giggity) at a stop, but once youre moving the cooler air flows into the filter
Iike the look of the 114 air cleaner for sure
The stock 114 air filter is good for being a stock dry filter. I prefer the oiled K&N not only for the looks but also if I get caught in the rain as the oil will help to repel some of the water. You still want to put a rain sock on it as soon as possible especially if it is a heavy downpour, but on my last 3 bikes, I ran in the rain with no issues using an oiled K&N filter. For me, that makes it superior to the dry paper stock filter, and of course, the K&N is washable requiring just a reapplication of oil to it.
El filtro de serie 114 es lavable, yo lo limpio con el kleen power de k&N y el aceite de K&N y va de maravilla
@@sergiomartinezmirallas4692
Clean mine with diluted Dawn dishwashing liquid. Works as good for pennies. I do use K&N filter oil.
Supposedly these air cleaners are the same as the Screaming Eagle stage 2 that costs $400. The stock ones also look bad-ass. That is why the take-offs are selling fast and why I just bought one. The nameplates are easily swappable too, so you can change to like 6 different styles for about $90 each nameplate.
It is the SAME Ventilator air filter they sell you with a stage 1 kit. Same part number, filter, etc.....
The issues with the big sucker might have to do with fuel standoff. It's possible that the radius flows better on a test stand. But I know the guys that build prostock drag cars who have to look at everything because they have displacement rules and everyone starts with similar equipment have observed wet flow inside of intake manifolds. If they run more than about an 8mm radius on the top of the runner into the manifold they see fuel separation and have sluggish engines. While the air filter is designer for air, there will be reversion and you may see a fuel cloud outside of the carburetor that backs up and sucks back in. The radius might be allowing this reversed air to allow the fuel mist to form droplets and wet the radius instead of staying in a better droplets size for combustion.
This filter is good to go once you put a KN filter in it. 21 LRS with a 130hp stage 2 - 6.2gps inj and cr483
Do you have the part number? I just went with an RS468 and need to get the k&n so it can breathe.
It's flows good and the OE is a good looking air cleaner, but it's kinda hard to vent the breathers externally with the backplate.....if that's something you want to do.
Good job on the video brother, I like the look's of the factory air cleaner better, and if it's working I probably wouldn't change it either,💯👊🏽😎
Just saw this video. I bought a used 2019 Fat Boy 114 last year with 250 miles on it with all kinds of chrome goodies. I replaced the cans and threw them in the garbage. Nobody would want stock cans and I didn't want them in my garage. The breather looks awesome on my bike and I am simply going to replace the filter.
I just put the screamin eagle ventilator breather on my 2019 road king special. I like the stock like look. Great video and I'm a new subscriber. Here to support a fellow moto content creator. Ride safe and all the best in 2022. 👍👊🇺🇸
Thanks for the support. Ride safe as well.
I would thinkthe arlen ness element quality is better than the harley filter is....plus imo, the cycle filters look better than the oval ones do.. either way the fat Bob 114 is a killer awesome machine....
Good video. I'm interested in the Arlen ness filter. Would go good on my Wife's 2018 heritage classic. Take care.
Thanks! Shoot me an email at contact@dean-speed.com and I'll see what I can do to help u out
@@aztriumphster Sent you an email. Thank you.
Thanks Bryce, good to know, like you know I have the Standard 107, and if I eventually stage up to 114, I'll get that air cleaner, like the way it looks
I love my 114 but want to do a stage 4 128 or full 131 💪🏼🇺🇲
Good to know as my Sport Glide air cleaner is hideous! Need to get a new cleaner similar to what you have to complement my Rinehart exhaust!
K&N drop in filter and call it a day. I would look into the back plate so that doesn't heat up as much.
Is the back plate a harley or K&N product?
@@aztriumphster my shop did it for me
I had seen a post from Moonshine Harley about it a while back saying the stock air cleaner just wasn't flowing enough air, for a stock stage 1 your probably fine, I changed mine to a Ventilator extreme when I added the red shift 468 cam to increase flow.
@OCGlide
How did your setup pan out
Same I did a big sucker with my stage 2
I seen negative things on TH-cam about moonshine harley-davidson but could be just 1 disgruntled customer
That looks like the Screaming Eagle Ventilator I just bought.
Put a drop in air filter in it get rid of that paper and mine breathe great
I put a kn filter on and it took lots of heat away the bracket retains heat its the problem
Whats the part number or specific name of the filter u r running?
@@aztriumphster K&N Black 63-1139 Performance Air Intake
@@aztriumphster it acts like a cpu cooler and you get the performance as well .recommended
@@aztriumphster I found my K&N filter box in the garage. P/N 29400298 or 29400299 Filter, Air, Elem Assy
Hope this helps.
That’s the stage 1 ventilator kit.
I got the same filter when I did the stage one on my 2022 road glide. Does this now come stock on some new 114 bikes?
@@StevenMayer6 yes
I have the bone stock 2018 Softail Deluxe 107 and did what you said and bought a stock 114 cleaner take-off just like yours. There is a 1/4" gap between the 114 backing plate and the throttle body!!! Does anybody know why it won't fit the 107?? Yes, I installed it correctly. Is there a Harley Davidson 1/4" thick gasket I need to buy? My dealer doesn't know jack. P.S. Nobody sells the take-offs for anywhere near $100. More like $220-300.
There is a throttle body support bracket that is likely the culprit. th-cam.com/video/lm-t0GWk8uE/w-d-xo.html
fast forward to 4:15
@@aztriumphster Holy Cow! That makes sense!!! Thanks!!!
So that was it. I had to remove that skinny bracket that I didn’t take off at first an that fixed the problem.
good job!!!
This filter is good but apparently there is a kit for under 50 bucks that makes it high flow air filter.
I like the way the big sucker looks but it sounds like crap
i run the stock air cleaner on stage 2 " it can only ingest so much air and that's well and trully big enough
@Damien Frigo
Do u have a cam , Catless header, and slip ons?
I had been wandering how will I gain if I change from stock breather with added cams and slipons
@@71donkrider yeah running the 468 redshift cam / s&s oil pump / cam plate / vh big radius pipes with dyno tune , air filter does its job but bigger with a dyno tune will make the difference.
What's the kn filter everyone is using? You just take the paper out and it fits in?
Checkout Harley's part number 29400293
@@aztriumphster thanks
Anyone happen to have the dimensions of the 114 badge plate on front of air cleaner ?
7 3/8 x 2 1/4
How your clean your air cleaner ? I have same that you ?
U won't be able to clean the stock filter since it is a paper element but if u upgrade to a rechargeable filter like K&N, you would want to pickup their recharge kit which has a cleaner fluid and oil along with detailed instructions.
Not good with cams tho
Right?
Yeah prolly gonna need more air flow with cams
@@aztriumphster
Thanks for reply
What about the k&n high flow wedge it fits in the stock 107 cover but has high flow air filter? I’m putting wood 22xe cam with 4.5 Rhinehart dbx slip ons removed cat from stock header pipe k&n high flow wedge air cleaner power vision tuner . Hoping to get 110hp and 115 pounds of torque from 107! You think that’s possible?
@@71donkrider not sure, but I did did this: www.faribaulthd.com/Parts-Service/Performance
Hope it helps
hey bud i have a 107 m8 and i recently bought 114 oem filter setup just like the one on your bike will i need tuning of any kind?
What r u running for exhaust and what filter so u have in the new air cleaner setup?
Hi Navi... did you setup the 114 OEM filter on your 107 M8 ?? Did you tune the bike or using it without tuning ?
@@kvb0075 i did and no I didn’t tune it or anything it runs just fine so far
Awesome!! Thanks a bunch that helps...will get the 114 oem fiter installed... I am also planning for slip-ons from Van and Hines or Cobra...
@@kvb0075 I’m eventually getting the V&H pipes
Very surprised HD put a Stage 1 air cleaner on all 114's stock...
Once the high flow filter is on there, it is practically a stage 1
@@aztriumphster For all intense purposes...it is...A set of slipons and away you go until the waranty is up and then you can go Stage2 or more...
I have a 107 with rs468 cam and big sucker ac. I just replaced the big sucker with the stock 114 ventilator ac and like the looks and comfort alot more. I'm wondering if i change the stock filter to k&n is that will increase air flow much to equal the big sucker flow, or are they all close enough in air flow?
@@SmittybuiltHD I think its worth a try...K@N advertises 30% more air flow than a stock filter...
Not an excessive amount of loctite 🤦♂️
Keep what you have
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Have the 107 and exhaust but going to put the 114 cleaner now would I need a tune ??
You don't need it but the bike would benefit from it and u would get a bump on power and smoother power delivery
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