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Good stuff Steve. I added the EBS from DK Customs back in February on my old TC88 after much research. Incredibly well built and extremely well designed. Love your tips brother - stay safe out there. 🤜🏼
Good job sir. Was really pleased to see you venting the hose upward. I installed a DK kit a couple of years ago routing the hoses as you did. Took some verbal heat from a number of ignorant repliers who didn't understand. Two years out now and I can report the system continues to work perfectly. Thanks for posting.
Tip: use a sharpie to mark where that banjo bolt has the hole so you can align with the route out of the redirecting part. If if isn't tight use thin washers because it has to be aligned.
I have a twin cam and when I decided to do a stage one upgrade I was predisposed to want to buy fro DK Customs. They seem like sincere folks and it's a small, local, USA business and that's what I prefer to support. However, after exchanging a half dozen e-mails asking extremely basic questions all I got were vague, unresponsive replies. They wouldn't even tell me what exact products I should buy to ensure proper fitment. Plus, their prices are way up there on the high end compared to competitors. So their lack of interest/inability to answer even simple pre-sales questions and high prices told me that this was not a company I wanted to deal with. As to the breather... I shopped all over and as much as I am not a fan of Arlen Ness, their big sucker product was less expensive and better than anything else that's out there. And IN STOCK! HUGE filter surface area. I'm definitely getting more air than the engine can gulp down now. Not crazy about the boring black disk cover but I can live with it. Function over looks, right? I appreciate your videos but this one seems to be aimed at posers who are into "hip" products where money is not a concern. Most real Bikers care more about function and price. I don't see an M8 ever being in my garage so it's all a noop. But you do ask for comments so here's mine for what it's worth. I find most of your videos to be very helpful and informative. This one maybe not so much.
I am so sorry you did not have a good experience with our Customer Support. We make every effort to provide Quality Parts, Shipped Quickly and Accurately, AND Superior Customer Service. Thank you for your comment, and we will take it to heart, as we are always working at improving.
It's a shame you didn't have a good experience with DK s customer service. I've emailed them a few different times and got very clear and specific answers to my questions. I have purchased their filter relocation kit, oil cooler, and their premium external breather kit. I'll be installing them in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks Steve! Also, there's plenty of evidence out there that shows the top of your pistons get caked with that un-burnt oil in the form of heavy carbon deposits getting layered on your piston tops. Best thing, in my opinion, is to install a DK Customs External Breather to keep that oil off the tops of your pistons. Some bikes are heavy spitters, some aren't. I installed one on my 05 Carburetored Electra Glide and it worked great. Man, that kit looks SWEET on that bike!
Yes sir...its probably one of the worst things for your engine that the epa has said HD must do. Ive sen plenty with caked heads...even newer bikes and you are right...ive has ome in hee that never spit a drop and some puke it out like crazy. My 14 sg likes to puke..the 15 rg,..not so much, either way..this is well worth the few bucks to help keep everything clean.
You can let DK Customs know I bought the breather setup because I saw it here. Thanks for the vid, I wasn’t aware of the brand and this style but it’s exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you sir! Lots of vids coming out in the next few months...parts are piling up but I have to get these bikes out that need work and I cant do videos on also....gotta pay the bills lol thanks again for the sub and be safe!!
I am sure it’s a great product with great results. However, it seems that oil will have a hard time going up the hoses fighting gravity as it leaves the intake area. I know It is under slight pressure but even so most of the oil will stick to the interior wall of that hose and mostly air will be going through instead. I would recommend running it downwards to eliminate this potential issue. HPI makes a similar product that I have on all of my 3 M8 engines, so far great results as well….. great video!!
It was actually recommended by them to run it up...however you can run it either way. Its however youw ant to do it. Its doing its job for sure even with it up. nothing dripping from the hose, like excess oil, and there a tad bit in the can...so id say it has enough pressure.
I just exhausted the breather under the bike. No catch can to worry about, it just happily vents away. I did this with my 96 Low Rider and then 2022 Street Bob. Once in a while, I will see a small drip on the floor. I have never seen oil residue on the bottom of my frame or the bike from the vent tube. I found that interesting because the Low Rider puked oil all over the air filter. The Street Bob's filter was damp with oil as well.
Another EXCELLENT video Brother Steve! Thank you Sir! This was the first thing I did to my bike, installed the DK Customs EBS and catch can! Luckily, this bike isn't a heavy spitter.
Yes sir...turned out exactly how I thought it would...tabs breather is so much better looking then the snorkel and the external breather system will help keep see through plate clean and not let the K&N filter get all clogged with nasty oil. Thanks for checking it out!
AWESOME VIDEO Brother Steve!!! Keep up the good work, I appreciate the money your saving me and my motor loves the upgrades needed to keep her running 100%!!!
Hey Jim, agreed man! Seen that last year and knew if I built a performance bagger it was getting this breather...it turned out nice! Thanks for checking it out!
I eliminated the catch can with a 3in copper tube that fits into the end of the hose. I ground beveled one inch of the end of the tube at about 20 digress until the tube just had a 1/16 opening at the end. put the straight cut end in the hose and used a stainless hose clamp to clamp it to the the exhaust pipe (horizontal area). Can't see it because of my heat shields. Figure, instead of burning at combustion I'll burn it after. Had it on for over a year, have not seen any dripping or smoking.
@@sikbaggers Ya, mine was like a small filter. I would check it when doing oil changes and wasn't sure if it was getting too much build up and needing a change out. Thought it better not to worry about and just burn it after combustion.
Another great video, Steve! BIG thanks for providing all those links in the description…very helpful! Hope to see you at Sturgis! Making the long ride out from NJ!
Thank you rob! And no problem man...glad to help! We will be there for the entire week and if you see us out make sure to say hi! Always great to meet everyone out there.
He Steve! Good news/Bad news - Good news is that the Zombie breather is on and I love the look! Bad news is that it sparked a bigger undertaking. I’ve now committed to suspension upgrade with Legend REVO shocks and AXEO front end kit. Also, going with the Redshift 468 cam and Thundermax ECM. Cha-ching$$$. Anyway, here’s my question for you: while were in doing the cam seems like good opportunity to upgrade some other stuff, like the oil pump. Most TH-cam techs talk about 2013-2020 bikes touring bikes (2020 FLTRXS for me) could use upgrade but that not all 2020 bikes have the old pump. How do I know if mine has the pump that should probably be upgraded?? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Also going to replace the inner cam bearing and probably the lifters and cuffs. Thank you!
Another great video, you make it all look so easy. Question concerning the open breather, what about riding in the rain? Will water not find its way in?
Thank you sir. ive been caught in some pretty heavy rain and never had an issue with it...most of the guys I ride with all have open breathers and I dont think Ive ever seen a rain sock being put on...no ones had a an issue with it. If your bike is sitting in a pretty hard down pour I might cover it with something but actually riding down the road, most is going to shed off before it can soak in
Interesting but I've been driving for 46 years (riding 40) and have never had any problem with the stock set-up on my bikes and cars, including with SE air cleaner upgrades on all the Harleys I've owned over the years.
That is why they sell them the way they do...they run, the have the bare minimum to run with a basic tune and basic intake and exhaust. You do not need to do anything to them. This is an upgrade.
Great video. Looking for information about this external breather. I was thinking of going with a Feuling vented dipstick. Will this accomplish the same result as the DK external breather? Seen other videos and it seems like it does, but I’m not totally positive.
Hey Steve. Great video. Just curious if you've had a chance to ride the bike with the external breather. I did the same mod but with an earlier version from DK and after about a week, the can filled up and smelled like burning oil every time I stopped. Thanks.
I have and its been checked..seems all good so far... If you are getting that much oil in your catch can you probably have some other issue..I didnt go into great detail in the video about what causes the excessive blow by but first thing and its the most common is to check your dipstick. When filling your oil make sire it is in the middle of the full and add...not at the full mark. check it out and follow the marks on the dipstick. Running the wrong kind of oil or weight in your bike. There is a chart in your service manual that shows the air temps you ride in vs what weight oil you should run. Warmer temps would require heavier oil and vise versa. If your bike is still spitting that much oil afterwards then you may nee to check your umbrella valves. They could be malfunctioning and allowing way to much oil to pass. check those things and it will help with your excessive blow by.
Ordered same kits. Was just wondering if you remember what size bolt and tap you used to plug opening on top of ring spacer. Just wanted to make sure have everything when it shows up
I have 2017 cvo pro street breakout with the HD Breather like on that bike, how much better would it be to change it to the one you put on that bike with the catch can too. Bike has 20,000 miles.
Thank you very much for the excellent and very informative video Steve! I have watched it many times because both these mods are the first ones I will be doing in my new FLHXS! Do you think the Tab cleaner will work with the DK Customs Transformer? If it does, you probably you won’t need the support bracket, the cleaner’s spacer, filling the venting hole etc.
Really like the look of this filter but I can't get it since I have a 2016 Road Glide Ultra. Looks like I missed the opportunity by a year since they advertise 17 and up.
yes it is for the M8 motors...I also have a 14 SG and a 15 RG that I cannot use it on. Check out these twin cam high flow air claeners from DK Customs though...a lot of them are very similar to this one from TAB. www.dkcustomproducts.com/twin-cam-outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems-99.htm
Is the oily mist coming from the breather bolts under enough pressure to travel upward through the tube, against gravity, to the "T" and then to the tube you ran under the tank? I am in the process of putting in a DK Customs external breather system and the upward route you did definitely looks cleaner but I was unsure if the oily mist would travel upwards before making its way to the catch can.
yes there is enough pressure to push that oil up and over...some kits are designed to be ran exactly like this..you can choose with this kit which way to run it, up or down.
I looked through the comments but didn’t see a response. Any idea on the size of the bolts that attach the bracket you reinstalled to the throttle body??
@David Sizemore I too have a 2016, but it’s an Electra Glide Ultra Classic! Your comment makes me wonder(curious, but not thinking of buying) if this Tab performance exhaust would fit my bike! Personally, I believe all exhaust system manufacturers make them so there are options for all fitment requirements.
The tab exhaust is made for several year bikes, including yours. I have tab headers and 50 cal slip ons on my 2015 road glide which is the same twin cam as your 16...and then they have slip ons for the newer M8 models like this one. They sound amazing!
Question, when swapping the breather and/or exhaust the bike will obviously benefit from a new tune. Can you run an aftermarket tune now without voiding the warranty?
Yes...great question, kind of long winded answer. There are certainly a lot of "grey areas" when it comes to tuning your bike. HD will tell you they have to do it or will void your warranty and that's a very short answer but not completely true. I use a power vision and HD uses them as well along with other tuners...basically if anything happens to your motor, HD will automatically say "its because of your tune or tuner" . Its literally their job to say something you did messed it up and then you have to dispute that claim and then it is up to them to prove that your tuner did it...You dont have to prove that your tuner didnt do it. In the long run youll usually win the case..unless of course you really did something stupid. Even a completely stock bike can benefit from a tune...epa has set the standards that they have to tune to and its OK...not great. changing this heavy breather to the TAB wont necessarily need another tune because it was a open breather to an open breather but the tab one has more surface area for more air intake. So it could stand to have the fuel/air ratio lined out but it wont hurt the bike to ride it with the canned map tune
I have a 1999 FLHTCI full bagger that needs a tank clean, new filter, and for caution, a new pump. 89k on the odometer now. Not sure if I need the wrench (no big deal to buy one), Do you have a video on that?
Can we get an updated link to that catch can for the life of me i cant seem to pull up the one you have in this video on DK website i may not be holding my mouth right idk 😂
Its the second linkin the description of the video..I just clicked it and it takes you here www.dkcustomproducts.com/premium-discrete-breather-system-twin-cam-touring-softail-dyna-dk-pr-dis-brt-tc.htm I thought maybe the link wasnt working but it is. Premium Discrete Breather System Twin Cam & M8 Touring Softail Dyna
Well I never said it was better than the stock ventilator..However I did say its better than the snorkel heavy breather because of the increased surface area. And yes the K&N filter can make a difference but it wont be "seat of the pants" difference...as in you wont feel a huge gain in HP because of the filter itself. Surface area is what we are going for here and I love the look of the tab breather..that is why I choose that one over the ventilator. If you like that one or are currently running it and you are happy with it I would stay with it and maybe do the external breather mod if you are getting any blow by. Be safe and thank you for checking out the video David.
that intake filter looks like one have on my cvo 2011 other than top and bottom a 2" plate in center the SE cover, thought about cutting it off? are the 2 the same as i have the KN filter in?
The one thing about tuning your bike is that even when its stock it can benefit from a tune. The basic map tune that HD throws on these things is just that, basic. So anytime you start adding more air, or letting more air go through the engine and letting more air out ( open headers) you will need to tune. Just changing the air cleaner wont change that much on its own. So no you dont need to tune but it will greatly benefit your bike if you do.
i dont remember what size it was. I picked one from my bin full of bolts that was smaller than the ring. Matched a tap to it and then tapped it out. The final bolt was too long so I cut it off and re threaded it so it just barley cleared the inside and you cant see it hanging down through the breather. If you dont have randomm bolts laying around I would just take the ring to the big box store and match up a stainless steel bolt to the hole. You want it slightly larger than the hole.
Hey chris, A vented tranny cover is just that, its a vent...it vents out...and its the tranny, your blow by is from the engine oil..they both blow out...so you cannot put one to the other...T man used to make a 3 section tranny cover that was a tranny vent and the other half went to the engine oil with 2 lines and was an "in" so blow by could go back into the engine section...they stopped making it as far as I know. I couldn't find one a few weeks ago when I was looking.
I dont know that there is a pipe that matches this breather but I do run the zombie 50 cals and the headers from TAB on my RG and love them. I use a dynojet power vision for tunes...very easy to tune with a "open breather" 2-1-2 headers and any set of slip ons...then you can fine tune from there with the autotune feature.
Why in hell can't an engine engineer come up with oil return or recycling line back to the engine to avoid any blow by or larger oil cooler with the ability to hold excess oil? Instead of external tank or catch can?
@@stevetomblin9007 Better oil filters, water separator, and change your oil regularly. But I did notice a moisture problem with my 21 Slim. And I only owned it for 7 months. After 11,000 miles and I regularly warmed it up for 3 minutes. They told me it wasn't getting hot enough. Lol. I cruise at 85mph..
I have..I did not purchase it but I have installed one on a trike before. I also have the trask breather and external breather kit on out softail build
@@sikbaggers I am running the Trask vented cover and the DK Customs external breather setup... I get little to no snot out of the head breathers in my catch can. so far I am pleased. great video again as always. thanks : - )
The bike, from the factory can stand to have a tune. It comes with a map tune..which is generic. That being said, changing the air cleaner alone will not require a tune but can greatly benefit your bike if you do. Just opening the breather doesnt mean youre getting more air through the bike becasue its still restricted by the cats in the head pipe. Opening the breather and no cats will require a tune.
🛑🛑 I wouldn’t change the Harley Heavy Breather, for the Tab Unit. The bike looks, and runs Awesome, with the Harley Breather. I would save your money, or spend it elsewhere. 💯
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this Gene...much appreciated! Certainly if you are happy with the snorkel style air cleaner then by all means there is nothing wrong with it...for me it was just the looks and it didnt quite fit this build. Either way the M8's could stand to have the external breather put on...seen to many of these puking oil on the side of the motor. thanks again Gene!
I saw that tab is taking all their non epa compliant stuff off their website. Right now they are moving it to their race section but they are going to remove it all together…..the epa needs to be dropped!!!
@@sikbaggers you think so? I’m not sure this time. Have you seen what the epa has been doing with diesel shops and tuning shops? They’ve been fining them and opening lawsuits against them if they’ve been found to even sell products that modify the emissions part of a diesel truck. I’m not sure if we aren’t going to see the same thing with motorcycles soon.
😂😂😂😂can’t stopped laughing..HD owners always upgrading their motorcycles 😂😂that’s why I will never buy HD 😂😂I saved my cash and bought some better than HD more torque horsepower 😂😂faster HD will never make anything like what I bought
You wont buy HD but youll spend your sunday night watching HD videos...seems legit. Maybe reevaluate your life man...come one. You do know how fuckin stupid that looks on your part, right? Oh and by the way if you want views on your channel and your transformer bike....this isn't the way to get it. Just some food for thought. Good luck with your dumb shit there homie
I've made a better way to keep your engine clean from the blow-by spewing oil and the other crap that comes out of the heads on your HD!! Since I haven't registered my product with the Patent Office yet, I can't tell you or show you what it is, and what it does for your baby! Lmfao!!!!! I'll let you know when I get it together.
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Good stuff Steve. I added the EBS from DK Customs back in February on my old TC88 after much research. Incredibly well built and extremely well designed. Love your tips brother - stay safe out there. 🤜🏼
What type and size bolts did you put in the plate to extra support the air breather?
These are the best how to videos on the internet.. Thank You
thank you Frank! Much appreciated sir!
Dk customs is great. I’ve bought a few products from them and their customer service is top notch. Blown away by how much better my bike runs!
Good job sir. Was really pleased to see you venting the hose upward. I installed a DK kit a couple of years ago routing the hoses as you did. Took some verbal heat from a number of ignorant repliers who didn't understand. Two years out now and I can report the system continues to work perfectly. Thanks for posting.
yeah...you can do it either way..just let them know it has pressure..its not gravity fed lol and thank you for checking it out! Much appreciated.
I got the breather and the transformer mount all from DK and never been happier with a product
NICE! Im loving it after getting it all installed..The lok is exactly what I was going for.
Tip: use a sharpie to mark where that banjo bolt has the hole so you can align with the route out of the redirecting part. If if isn't tight use thin washers because it has to be aligned.
Great tip, thanks for sharing!
I have a twin cam and when I decided to do a stage one upgrade I was predisposed to want to buy fro DK Customs. They seem like sincere folks and it's a small, local, USA business and that's what I prefer to support. However, after exchanging a half dozen e-mails asking extremely basic questions all I got were vague, unresponsive replies. They wouldn't even tell me what exact products I should buy to ensure proper fitment. Plus, their prices are way up there on the high end compared to competitors. So their lack of interest/inability to answer even simple pre-sales questions and high prices told me that this was not a company I wanted to deal with. As to the breather... I shopped all over and as much as I am not a fan of Arlen Ness, their big sucker product was less expensive and better than anything else that's out there. And IN STOCK! HUGE filter surface area. I'm definitely getting more air than the engine can gulp down now. Not crazy about the boring black disk cover but I can live with it. Function over looks, right? I appreciate your videos but this one seems to be aimed at posers who are into "hip" products where money is not a concern. Most real Bikers care more about function and price. I don't see an M8 ever being in my garage so it's all a noop. But you do ask for comments so here's mine for what it's worth. I find most of your videos to be very helpful and informative. This one maybe not so much.
I am so sorry you did not have a good experience with our Customer Support.
We make every effort to provide Quality Parts, Shipped Quickly and Accurately, AND Superior Customer Service.
Thank you for your comment, and we will take it to heart, as we are always working at improving.
It's a shame you didn't have a good experience with DK s customer service. I've emailed them a few different times and got very clear and specific answers to my questions. I have purchased their filter relocation kit, oil cooler, and their premium external breather kit. I'll be installing them in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks Steve! Also, there's plenty of evidence out there that shows the top of your pistons get caked with that un-burnt oil in the form of heavy carbon deposits getting layered on your piston tops. Best thing, in my opinion, is to install a DK Customs External Breather to keep that oil off the tops of your pistons. Some bikes are heavy spitters, some aren't. I installed one on my 05 Carburetored Electra Glide and it worked great. Man, that kit looks SWEET on that bike!
Yes sir...its probably one of the worst things for your engine that the epa has said HD must do. Ive sen plenty with caked heads...even newer bikes and you are right...ive has ome in hee that never spit a drop and some puke it out like crazy. My 14 sg likes to puke..the 15 rg,..not so much, either way..this is well worth the few bucks to help keep everything clean.
@@sikbaggers Yes Sir, ABSOLUTELY!
You can let DK Customs know I bought the breather setup because I saw it here. Thanks for the vid, I wasn’t aware of the brand and this style but it’s exactly what I was looking for.
thanks for checking it out Henry! Its been a great upgrade!
I’m so glad I subscribed to your channel! All your videos are very helpful! Please keep ‘em coming!
Thank you sir! Lots of vids coming out in the next few months...parts are piling up but I have to get these bikes out that need work and I cant do videos on also....gotta pay the bills lol thanks again for the sub and be safe!!
@@sikbaggers hey, you gotta do what you gotta do! 🤙🏽
Nice, I really like my DK customs external breather with banjo bolts!!!! Huge difference!!! Alot of people have no idea tried explaining to them.
yeah its kind of complicated to explain to some people lol trust me i know but it does work great! Super easy to install too!
What size were the bolts you put in the throttle body to attach the bracket?
I am sure it’s a great product with great results. However, it seems that oil will have a hard time going up the hoses fighting gravity as it leaves the intake area. I know It is under slight pressure but even so most of the oil will stick to the interior wall of that hose and mostly air will be going through instead. I would recommend running it downwards to eliminate this potential issue. HPI makes a similar product that I have on all of my 3 M8 engines, so far great results as well….. great video!!
It was actually recommended by them to run it up...however you can run it either way. Its however youw ant to do it. Its doing its job for sure even with it up. nothing dripping from the hose, like excess oil, and there a tad bit in the can...so id say it has enough pressure.
I just exhausted the breather under the bike. No catch can to worry about, it just happily vents away. I did this with my 96 Low Rider and then 2022 Street Bob. Once in a while, I will see a small drip on the floor. I have never seen oil residue on the bottom of my frame or the bike from the vent tube. I found that interesting because the Low Rider puked oil all over the air filter. The Street Bob's filter was damp with oil as well.
Hey pete...you can certainly do that specially if its not puking tons of oil...youll just have to deal with oil on the floor.
Another EXCELLENT video Brother Steve! Thank you Sir! This was the first thing I did to my bike, installed the DK Customs EBS and catch can! Luckily, this bike isn't a heavy spitter.
thank you sir! Been prepping for sturgis so sorry for th3e late reply man...playing catch up now, leaving in 2 days
@@sikbaggers GET 'ER DONE Brother! Have a great time in Sturgis!!
Another great video Steve. Straight forward installation of 2 great products from 2 great companies.
Yes sir...turned out exactly how I thought it would...tabs breather is so much better looking then the snorkel and the external breather system will help keep see through plate clean and not let the K&N filter get all clogged with nasty oil. Thanks for checking it out!
Dk Customs makes some good stuff! Their breathers are good too! But i like this tap performance Zombie breather!
Yes..I wasnt even aware of their breather until I found the external one...I love the way it turned out!
AWESOME VIDEO Brother Steve!!! Keep up the good work, I appreciate the money your saving me and my motor loves the upgrades needed to keep her running 100%!!!
Thank you sir! Much appreciated and really glad to help! this breather and external breather turned out pretty awesome!
Man I love that Harley breather.
Hey Jim, agreed man! Seen that last year and knew if I built a performance bagger it was getting this breather...it turned out nice! Thanks for checking it out!
Awesome video! Great explanation!
Thank you sir...great product!
That looks sick man! I want to put that on my Streetglide.
I eliminated the catch can with a 3in copper tube that fits into the end of the hose. I ground beveled one inch of the end of the tube at about 20 digress until the tube just had a 1/16 opening at the end. put the straight cut end in the hose and used a stainless hose clamp to clamp it to the the exhaust pipe (horizontal area). Can't see it because of my heat shields. Figure, instead of burning at combustion I'll burn it after. Had it on for over a year, have not seen any dripping or smoking.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us..was there a reason for eliminating the can?
@@sikbaggers Ya, mine was like a small filter. I would check it when doing oil changes and wasn't sure if it was getting too much build up and needing a change out. Thought it better not to worry about and just burn it after combustion.
Another great video, Steve! BIG thanks for providing all those links in the description…very helpful! Hope to see you at Sturgis! Making the long ride out from NJ!
Thank you rob! And no problem man...glad to help! We will be there for the entire week and if you see us out make sure to say hi! Always great to meet everyone out there.
Tab Zombie breather on the way to me along with DK kit!
He Steve! Good news/Bad news - Good news is that the Zombie breather is on and I love the look! Bad news is that it sparked a bigger undertaking. I’ve now committed to suspension upgrade with Legend REVO shocks and AXEO front end kit. Also, going with the Redshift 468 cam and Thundermax ECM. Cha-ching$$$. Anyway, here’s my question for you: while were in doing the cam seems like good opportunity to upgrade some other stuff, like the oil pump. Most TH-cam techs talk about 2013-2020 bikes touring bikes (2020 FLTRXS for me) could use upgrade but that not all 2020 bikes have the old pump. How do I know if mine has the pump that should probably be upgraded?? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Also going to replace the inner cam bearing and probably the lifters and cuffs. Thank you!
I got an external breather kit a few years back from DK i ran the hose into an old crushed beer can ziptied to the frame 😂
well..thats one way to do it I guess lol
You know, I cannot find any videos of people modding the stock ST’s heavy breather intake with a catch can. That’s something I would love to see done.
Your best bet is to go with a vented dipstick to be honest...much easier to do also
Another great video, you make it all look so easy. Question concerning the open breather, what about riding in the rain? Will water not find its way in?
Thank you sir. ive been caught in some pretty heavy rain and never had an issue with it...most of the guys I ride with all have open breathers and I dont think Ive ever seen a rain sock being put on...no ones had a an issue with it. If your bike is sitting in a pretty hard down pour I might cover it with something but actually riding down the road, most is going to shed off before it can soak in
I understand this cures the blow by going into back into your motor, does it also alleviate possible sumping issues?
Another great video Steve. Hope you are doing well
thank you Ryan! Doing great buddy!
Interesting but I've been driving for 46 years (riding 40) and have never had any problem with the stock set-up on my bikes and cars, including with SE air cleaner upgrades on all the Harleys I've owned over the years.
That is why they sell them the way they do...they run, the have the bare minimum to run with a basic tune and basic intake and exhaust. You do not need to do anything to them. This is an upgrade.
All it needs now is a light strip in there 😎
I've seen some of those with strips in them..pretty cool .I dont think ill have any accent lights on this build though.
Take some black nail polish and paint that brass fitting so it "disappears".
TY Steve
yes sir! Thank you for checking it out!
Great video. Looking for information about this external breather. I was thinking of going with a Feuling vented dipstick. Will this accomplish the same result as the DK external breather? Seen other videos and it seems like it does, but I’m not totally positive.
Hey Steve...yes sir that will do the same thing
Great install videos. Thank you!
thank you for checking them out and glad to help!
Hey Steve. Great video. Just curious if you've had a chance to ride the bike with the external breather. I did the same mod but with an earlier version from DK and after about a week, the can filled up and smelled like burning oil every time I stopped. Thanks.
I have and its been checked..seems all good so far... If you are getting that much oil in your catch can you probably have some other issue..I didnt go into great detail in the video about what causes the excessive blow by but first thing and its the most common is to check your dipstick. When filling your oil make sire it is in the middle of the full and add...not at the full mark. check it out and follow the marks on the dipstick. Running the wrong kind of oil or weight in your bike. There is a chart in your service manual that shows the air temps you ride in vs what weight oil you should run. Warmer temps would require heavier oil and vise versa. If your bike is still spitting that much oil afterwards then you may nee to check your umbrella valves. They could be malfunctioning and allowing way to much oil to pass. check those things and it will help with your excessive blow by.
@sikbaggers Thanks! Good advice. That was back in 2016 on my TC. Probably just had to much oil in it. Cheers!
Ordered same kits. Was just wondering if you remember what size bolt and tap you used to plug opening on top of ring spacer. Just wanted to make sure have everything when it shows up
Thank you brother!! Much appreciated!
I really like the look of this Air intake will it work with the 23 Tri Glide
Yes sir it will fit the 17+ Tri glides.
Nice, I've installed something similar on my 22 Fat Bob. Does that Oil Catch Can have a Breather on it? Where does the Oil pressure go?
watch starting at 15:30 I explain how it works. It is called a external breather so yes it is a breather.
I have 2017 cvo pro street breakout with the HD Breather like on that bike, how much better would it be to change it to the one you put on that bike with the catch can too. Bike has 20,000 miles.
Thank you very much for the excellent and very informative video Steve! I have watched it many times because both these mods are the first ones I will be doing in my new FLHXS! Do you think the Tab cleaner will work with the DK Customs Transformer? If it does, you probably you won’t need the support bracket, the cleaner’s spacer, filling the venting hole etc.
No they wont mix and match...youll have to pick one or the other. Glad to help!
Thanks for the reply, and I hope you had a good time at Sturgis@@sikbaggers Keep up the great work!
Really like the look of this filter but I can't get it since I have a 2016 Road Glide Ultra. Looks like I missed the opportunity by a year since they advertise 17 and up.
yes it is for the M8 motors...I also have a 14 SG and a 15 RG that I cannot use it on. Check out these twin cam high flow air claeners from DK Customs though...a lot of them are very similar to this one from TAB. www.dkcustomproducts.com/twin-cam-outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems-99.htm
Appreciate the reply and the recommendation. I’ll go check it out.
what is the PSI oil Pressure of oil that goes through the banjo bolt?
Is the oily mist coming from the breather bolts under enough pressure to travel upward through the tube, against gravity, to the "T" and then to the tube you ran under the tank? I am in the process of putting in a DK Customs external breather system and the upward route you did definitely looks cleaner but I was unsure if the oily mist would travel upwards before making its way to the catch can.
yes there is enough pressure to push that oil up and over...some kits are designed to be ran exactly like this..you can choose with this kit which way to run it, up or down.
I looked through the comments but didn’t see a response. Any idea on the size of the bolts that attach the bracket you reinstalled to the throttle body??
Thanks for checking it out and sorry for the late reply been on vacation..and yes I will be trying to tap it more so I can run it in further.
If weather is cold, 55 or less you’ll need to drain the water from condensation every 300 miles
Do you need to run a rain sock with this breather? I like the looks and how thin it is!
I would say yes we will be getting a rain sock for it for sure.
Nice Job,
thank you for checking it out!
Wish the Tab would fit on my 2016 Ultra Limited
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I too have a 2016, but it’s an Electra Glide Ultra Classic!
Your comment makes me wonder(curious, but not thinking of buying) if this Tab performance exhaust would fit my bike!
Personally, I believe all exhaust system manufacturers make them so there are options for all fitment requirements.
yes unfortunately it is only made for the M8 bikes as of now. But thank you for checking it out David!
The tab exhaust is made for several year bikes, including yours. I have tab headers and 50 cal slip ons on my 2015 road glide which is the same twin cam as your 16...and then they have slip ons for the newer M8 models like this one. They sound amazing!
Question, when swapping the breather and/or exhaust the bike will obviously benefit from a new tune. Can you run an aftermarket tune now without voiding the warranty?
Yes...great question, kind of long winded answer. There are certainly a lot of "grey areas" when it comes to tuning your bike. HD will tell you they have to do it or will void your warranty and that's a very short answer but not completely true. I use a power vision and HD uses them as well along with other tuners...basically if anything happens to your motor, HD will automatically say "its because of your tune or tuner" . Its literally their job to say something you did messed it up and then you have to dispute that claim and then it is up to them to prove that your tuner did it...You dont have to prove that your tuner didnt do it. In the long run youll usually win the case..unless of course you really did something stupid. Even a completely stock bike can benefit from a tune...epa has set the standards that they have to tune to and its OK...not great. changing this heavy breather to the TAB wont necessarily need another tune because it was a open breather to an open breather but the tab one has more surface area for more air intake. So it could stand to have the fuel/air ratio lined out but it wont hurt the bike to ride it with the canned map tune
Nice product video
Thank you for checking it out!
I have a 1999 FLHTCI full bagger that needs a tank clean, new filter, and for caution, a new pump. 89k on the odometer now. Not sure if I need the wrench (no big deal to buy one), Do you have a video on that?
I dont have a video out on the removing the pump, however I have a tank on the way for this bike so i will be doing one soon
Thanks
yes sir!
Great video!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thank you sir!
Any concerns about running the hoses up instead of down?.
absolutely not..there is plenty of pressure to push up that oil..some kits come that way with no option to put it down.
Can we get an updated link to that catch can for the life of me i cant seem to pull up the one you have in this video on DK website i may not be holding my mouth right idk 😂
Its the second linkin the description of the video..I just clicked it and it takes you here www.dkcustomproducts.com/premium-discrete-breather-system-twin-cam-touring-softail-dyna-dk-pr-dis-brt-tc.htm I thought maybe the link wasnt working but it is. Premium Discrete Breather System Twin Cam & M8 Touring Softail Dyna
I'll put my 98 Evo up against in any day
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Curious. How is that breather any better than the stock ventilator? Same surface area. Is it because the upgraded filter?
Well I never said it was better than the stock ventilator..However I did say its better than the snorkel heavy breather because of the increased surface area. And yes the K&N filter can make a difference but it wont be "seat of the pants" difference...as in you wont feel a huge gain in HP because of the filter itself. Surface area is what we are going for here and I love the look of the tab breather..that is why I choose that one over the ventilator. If you like that one or are currently running it and you are happy with it I would stay with it and maybe do the external breather mod if you are getting any blow by. Be safe and thank you for checking out the video David.
that intake filter looks like one have on my cvo 2011 other than top and bottom a 2" plate in center the SE cover, thought about cutting it off? are the 2 the same as i have the KN filter in?
im really not sure on the k&n filter and how many other filters that one fits man..im sorry.
If just adding the external breather do you need a tune after?
no...the external breather does nothing but alow the blow by to go into a filter rather than your intake to be burned off.
Great Video
thank you Robert!
Good stuff man
thank you sir!
Link to that OEM Air Filter Box Mount please.
heres one on ebay for 10.99 www.ebay.com/itm/401625490519
Do you have to re program the bike since you upgraded the air intake
The one thing about tuning your bike is that even when its stock it can benefit from a tune. The basic map tune that HD throws on these things is just that, basic. So anytime you start adding more air, or letting more air go through the engine and letting more air out ( open headers) you will need to tune. Just changing the air cleaner wont change that much on its own. So no you dont need to tune but it will greatly benefit your bike if you do.
What size bolt did you use on that breather back plate to block the hole
i dont remember what size it was. I picked one from my bin full of bolts that was smaller than the ring. Matched a tap to it and then tapped it out. The final bolt was too long so I cut it off and re threaded it so it just barley cleared the inside and you cant see it hanging down through the breather. If you dont have randomm bolts laying around I would just take the ring to the big box store and match up a stainless steel bolt to the hole. You want it slightly larger than the hole.
I’ve heard that we can utilize the catch can hose and run it directly to the vented tranny cover. Didn’t sound legit to me. Any insight?
Hey chris, A vented tranny cover is just that, its a vent...it vents out...and its the tranny, your blow by is from the engine oil..they both blow out...so you cannot put one to the other...T man used to make a 3 section tranny cover that was a tranny vent and the other half went to the engine oil with 2 lines and was an "in" so blow by could go back into the engine section...they stopped making it as far as I know. I couldn't find one a few weeks ago when I was looking.
Can a person utilize the Same catch can for the Traske trans vent kit?
you can if it has the same hose size.
Can the can be installed on a 2015 FLHTK with stock breather?
You would have to call DK and ask...they may have a different one for the stock breather.,..not sure.
Do they make zombie pipes and a zombie map to match?
I dont know that there is a pipe that matches this breather but I do run the zombie 50 cals and the headers from TAB on my RG and love them. I use a dynojet power vision for tunes...very easy to tune with a "open breather" 2-1-2 headers and any set of slip ons...then you can fine tune from there with the autotune feature.
Good stuff
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
So would this work w my Eagle 90 elbow big breather like the one u took off..??
Watch Dks video here it explains it a lot better th-cam.com/video/YV1RGhDhD3Y/w-d-xo.html
Why in hell can't an engine engineer come up with oil return or recycling line back to the engine to avoid any blow by or larger oil cooler with the ability to hold excess oil? Instead of external tank or catch can?
Because that oil is super dirty and watery. Don't want that back in the case.
@@stevetomblin9007 Better oil filters, water separator, and change your oil regularly. But I did notice a moisture problem with my 21 Slim. And I only owned it for 7 months. After 11,000 miles and I regularly warmed it up for 3 minutes. They told me it wasn't getting hot enough. Lol. I cruise at 85mph..
@@slayer04031974 I just bought a 23 r.g. has 7 miles on it. That kit is the first thing I'm putting on..
What's the product #for the dk catch can kit
Links are in the video description www.dkcustomproducts.com/premium-discrete-breather-system-twin-cam-touring-softail-dyna-dk-pr-dis-brt-tc.htm
What was the bracket part number?
OE/OEM Part Number
H/D - D2089320
Why does Dk use massive thick hoses?
Dont know
Have you also considered the Trask vented tranny cover?
I have..I did not purchase it but I have installed one on a trike before. I also have the trask breather and external breather kit on out softail build
@@sikbaggers I am running the Trask vented cover and the DK Customs external breather setup... I get little to no snot out of the head breathers in my catch can. so far I am pleased. great video again as always. thanks : - )
doesnt it need to be tuned now?
The bike, from the factory can stand to have a tune. It comes with a map tune..which is generic. That being said, changing the air cleaner alone will not require a tune but can greatly benefit your bike if you do. Just opening the breather doesnt mean youre getting more air through the bike becasue its still restricted by the cats in the head pipe. Opening the breather and no cats will require a tune.
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🛑🛑 I wouldn’t change the Harley Heavy Breather, for the Tab Unit.
The bike looks, and runs Awesome, with the Harley Breather.
I would save your money, or spend it elsewhere. 💯
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this Gene...much appreciated! Certainly if you are happy with the snorkel style air cleaner then by all means there is nothing wrong with it...for me it was just the looks and it didnt quite fit this build. Either way the M8's could stand to have the external breather put on...seen to many of these puking oil on the side of the motor. thanks again Gene!
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thank you Tig!
@@sikbaggers you welcome Steve
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thank you!
Anything is better than that snorkel.
agreed! lol
$449 for an air filter!?!
DUDE!!! THE FCN BREATHER IS 450 DOLLARS!! WTF IS THAT SHT
I saw that tab is taking all their non epa compliant stuff off their website. Right now they are moving it to their race section but they are going to remove it all together…..the epa needs to be dropped!!!
All of them are...yes the epa is got its hands a little dep in this one..we will see a work around soon.
@@sikbaggers you think so? I’m not sure this time. Have you seen what the epa has been doing with diesel shops and tuning shops? They’ve been fining them and opening lawsuits against them if they’ve been found to even sell products that modify the emissions part of a diesel truck. I’m not sure if we aren’t going to see the same thing with motorcycles soon.
Sick? Seen a doctor?
im trying to remember if I said I was sick in this video or sick and tired of something ? lol
@@sikbaggers LOL 👍
😂😂😂😂can’t stopped laughing..HD owners always upgrading their motorcycles 😂😂that’s why I will never buy HD 😂😂I saved my cash and bought some better than HD more torque horsepower 😂😂faster HD will never make anything like what I bought
You wont buy HD but youll spend your sunday night watching HD videos...seems legit. Maybe reevaluate your life man...come one. You do know how fuckin stupid that looks on your part, right? Oh and by the way if you want views on your channel and your transformer bike....this isn't the way to get it. Just some food for thought. Good luck with your dumb shit there homie
I've made a better way to keep your engine clean from the blow-by spewing oil and the other crap that comes out of the heads on your HD!! Since I haven't registered my product with the Patent Office yet, I can't tell you or show you what it is, and what it does for your baby! Lmfao!!!!! I'll let you know when I get it together.
cool..get it together and let me know...im interested,
I made mine for my sportster,
nice! What parts did you use?
Great information, but that was a long video 🥱
yes sir...i do apologize but it was a lot to cover in one video....thanks for hanging in there though! much appreciated.
Great video
thank you!