The Importance of Science and the Stories We Tell Ourselves - Bagus Muljadi

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  • Bagus Muljadi, the youngest Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Engineering at the University of Nottingham, explores the intriguing relationship between science and mysticism, suggesting they aren't always competing paradigms. In this podcast we reflect on whether we still hold hope for Indonesia's future and discuss the crucial role universities play in shaping a nation's standards of knowledge and best practices. Bagus also challenges Indonesia's national narrative, asking: what are the stories we tell ourselves that drive us forward? Do we even have such narrative?
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  • @bagusmuljadi
    @bagusmuljadi วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Thanks for having me!

    • @abrojosaputro
      @abrojosaputro 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Insightful as always. Pleasure meeting and talking with you (albeit extremely briefly 🥲) in terminal 3 last week Pak.

    • @dion-arch012
      @dion-arch012 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      saya selalu suka Cara Abang ini berpikir dan menyampaikan pesanNya.keren Bang.sangat membuka wawasan,Terimakasih karena ini merupakan ilmu yang sangat mahal.

  • @KokBisa
    @KokBisa 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    big fan ♥

    • @WIUI
      @WIUI  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      stop flirting

    • @KokBisa
      @KokBisa 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@WIUI the heart was meant for bagus, but here you get the smaller one 🫰

    • @WIUI
      @WIUI  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Damn I see how it is, after all we’ve been through 💔

    • @Sir3gar
      @Sir3gar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WIUI talking about being overconfident of a flirtation 🤭

    • @sinistergate
      @sinistergate วันที่ผ่านมา

      big fan? you AC?

  • @Hollocus16
    @Hollocus16 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I hope podcasts featuring English speakers discussing interesting topics in Indonesia will garner international attention.
    sometimes TH-cam's algorithm doesn't work well with Bahasa Indonesia titles when you search outside the country.

  • @axlhtm
    @axlhtm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Impressive! I am looking forward to be a splendid engineer researcher and storyteller like him! Thank you so much for inviting him to this podcast.

  • @shasa_2427
    @shasa_2427 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Bagus Mulyadi as the first guest?! I’m really looking forward to the next episodes and other amazing guests! 👏

  • @hasbyridhallah7214
    @hasbyridhallah7214 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm literally crying. IT'S SO GOOD

  • @ast-vi7ye
    @ast-vi7ye 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Baru nemu channel ini dan tertarik banget, dan mungkin bisa buat belajar bahasa Inggris haha. Thank you team

  • @bintangridzky1660
    @bintangridzky1660 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    What a great discussion 🙌🙌. We really need more Bagus Muljadi as gen z and gen alpha's role model

  • @Sq-1011
    @Sq-1011 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Aku bocil kematian bang windah. Sepertinya kebawa kesini gara2 malaka project. Aku suka bgt channel gini buat nambah wawasan. Makasih bang ando dan kak abigeil aku tau kak abigail dari chanel bang radit

    • @WIUI
      @WIUI  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad to have u here 🤜🏼🤛🏼

  • @bluerodine
    @bluerodine 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    well the most narative that we always heard from people outside Indonesia is, Indonesia is having the potential. and they always will be. Will be 'only potential' or grow the potential? i think this also related how we sell or promote ourselves, there's lack of confident in our narrative (what I also suffer from as Indonesian, sometimes I feel timid about myself lol)..... please, we have hope but we sounds desperate clinging into that belief..... i know and belief we can, we are confident.

  • @snoopyeverywhere
    @snoopyeverywhere 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    this intrigues me a lot especially when kak bagus mentioned about how it correlates with writing, that writing is nature way of showing you how good/sloopy your thinking is-- the ability to accurately articulate ideas, write well... this reminds me of when my friends were surprised to found out that i always got an instant reply form my lectures while they didnt even though we sent the same message at the same time. i think people are more likely to respect and show interest in us when we are good at converting our thoughts into a narrative or good description kayak selling yourself in a written form (im not sure if this relates or not but i once read in a book that description is what makes the reader a sensory partipant in the story).

  • @wimurtikusman137
    @wimurtikusman137 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I'm Bagus's fan, been listening to him in Chronicles, in his own channel and pak Gita Wirjawan's; and so glad you guys finally invited him. Young ones should listen to him!

    • @ikanbiru5269
      @ikanbiru5269 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, i agree...
      thanks wiui

  • @idhamkamal
    @idhamkamal 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    From Bagus' story we can now that sometimes luck play a big role in our success story

  • @junaediprasetia8173
    @junaediprasetia8173 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    " that narratives makes you want to die for!.. the ethos.. it tells you what the perfect people supposed to act." 47:22 merinding sumpah

  • @skinnyindonesian24
    @skinnyindonesian24 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Comment who should be our next guest!

  • @yaqubarisprabowo
    @yaqubarisprabowo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Super interesting!

  • @fnbl5
    @fnbl5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Unexpected guest and Great discussion.. we should have united narrative to become strong core nationalism country..❤❤ i think the word "garden" is amazing to describe Indonesia..

  • @amerpapi
    @amerpapi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thanks for not watering down your vocabulary, i learned a new word today: undergird

    • @amerpapi
      @amerpapi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      and Infantilization

    • @agigagarinasra6738
      @agigagarinasra6738 43 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Undergrad means S1

  • @mugiwara6115
    @mugiwara6115 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My suggestion is u should invite iman usman from ruang guru, he is one of the key for the success of class of champion, he made nerds look cool and he made us realize that our people can look up to smart people,

  • @monicawicaksono9141
    @monicawicaksono9141 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really enjoying this podcast, more point of view to be absorbed, shout out to Mr. Bagus Muljadi!! I'm a big fan🙌🏻

  • @bambookkun
    @bambookkun 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ngl this is most impacted podcast for me in this year. I already have an issue with writing and find the gap between conventional way, when i knew he can bypass with much people said impossibility, no no all can fixed by mindset.
    Yet still I am near 25, I still want to learn how to write.

  • @brainfart_
    @brainfart_ 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm loving this diverse talking

  • @alifiansaja3103
    @alifiansaja3103 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This podcast the real of hidden gem ❤❤❤

  • @mbahmarijan789
    @mbahmarijan789 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Richard Dwakins dan coki pardedeong tydacq cyuka podcast ini 🗿

  • @farkhanmaul-playlist
    @farkhanmaul-playlist 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is very clear, for the next guest please interview Mas Sabrang Mowo Damar Panuluh who is very much in line with the recommended Bagus criteria.

  • @maulidameilanadewi6206
    @maulidameilanadewi6206 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Selama gw di sem. akhir kuliah, gw bnyak memeprtanyakan korelasi sosial mistis dengan sciences, dan bagus muljadi selalu bisa ngejawab itu dengan pov yang waw bgd menurut gw!! Dari gimana beliau berpikir, it's just too amazing bruh 😖✨

  • @imanadipurnama5425
    @imanadipurnama5425 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Modern individuals often perceive themselves as more advanced than their ancestors, which sometimes leads to a disregard for ancient local wisdom. However, this wisdom often carries profound insights that we fail to grasp due to the superficiality of our own thinking. The mystery within this wisdom may serve as a continual source of inspiration, urging us to seek deeper understanding. It keeps me wondering-who truly were our ancestors, and what deeper knowledge did they possess that we have yet to uncover?

  • @hasascitra8342
    @hasascitra8342 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Seru banget terimakasih banyak!❤

  • @annisarochma2574
    @annisarochma2574 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    one of the significant narratives of Indonesia is "NKRI harga mati"; will it drive Indonesia to be an advanced country?

  • @monochromyces
    @monochromyces 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love this podcast!! Thanks so much for bringing this, guys. I learned a LOT.

  • @syuadd
    @syuadd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    finally...the man behind chronichless..m

  • @CHCH-mc4mi
    @CHCH-mc4mi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    prof bagus sangat bagus

  • @mbahmarijan789
    @mbahmarijan789 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Holly shiittt!!!! fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @lilmusin7749
    @lilmusin7749 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lov u guys

  • @dyon7630
    @dyon7630 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Muljadi family members, gotcha

  • @13eetlebum
    @13eetlebum 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ohhh he's the guy that pretty much saved me from retaking mekflu classes 🤩

  • @Brudilman
    @Brudilman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    True! cold lettering professors is what I also did to get into grad study, and it is actually effective.

  • @ferizky
    @ferizky 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe it can or can't be called a 'narrative', but Koes Plus gives a good ones for our country: Kolam Susu.

  • @afandibukanvloger6405
    @afandibukanvloger6405 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Permisi tukang ngarit numpang nonton.
    Every mr bagus mulyadi podcast i got the new muscle brain,

  • @delzgaming305
    @delzgaming305 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very interesting. I hope Andovi will attract Agung Habsah

  • @christopherhillep1737
    @christopherhillep1737 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what a guy bagus muljadi

  • @2Pay
    @2Pay 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what a intellectual man pak Bagus. Big fan pak❤‍🔥

  • @achellarpipi1155
    @achellarpipi1155 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Next klo boleh request undang mas Sabrang atau gak mank Sastia atau gak mbak Sharlini

  • @mahman543
    @mahman543 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bagus listens to Mearsheimer 100%

  • @watakoe
    @watakoe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    cokkkkk kueren banget
    learnt a lot from this conversation
    thank you so much!

  • @Em-aijon-makjleb
    @Em-aijon-makjleb 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nasionalisme pasca kemerdekaan itu asalnya dari mana, dek?
    yakni dari rasa terima kasih rakyat yang terpenuhi hak-haknya sebagai penduduk dr suatu negara.
    Negara sebagai sebuah fungsi perlu hadir di keseharian rakyat agar nasionalisme terbit di kesadaran rakyat. Tidak hadirnya fungsi negara di keseharian rakyat akan berdampak tidak munculnya nasionalisme. Sesederhana itu.
    Apakah suku-suku pedalaman, warga daerah terpencil, pelosok nan jauh di mato, rakyat endonesa secara menyeluruh, - bukan hanya sebagian kecil yg tersorot spotlight -, sudah merasakan fungsi negara di keseharian mereka? fungsi yg memudahkan hidup mereka, bukan yg justru ngeruwetin😂😂😂
    Gimana bisa cinta kalau hanya menuntut mesra tanpa menunaikan hak dan kewajiban. Jargon jangan tanya apa yg negara berikan padamu blablabla itu kan cuman trik psikologis pemimpin utk mengeksploitasi yg dipimpin. Hakikat sejatinya : negara hadir untuk rakyat, dan rakyat membela keutuhan negaranya adalah demi keberlangsungan hidup rakyat itu sendiri, karena NEGARA itu sendiri adalah sebuah NARASI yg diadakan demi kehidupan rakyat itu sendiri. Maka cukup absurd ketika nasionalisme rakyat ditagih tanpa negara terlebih dahulu mensejahterakan, berkeadilan, dan memudahkan kehidupan rakyatnya (bukan justru menyulitkan).😂😂😂
    "jangan ingin dicintai kalo kamu tidak bisa memberikan kebahagiaan pada orang lain" - mbah Jon 2024.
    Sesederhana itu.

  • @Buccess
    @Buccess 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, what a conversation! I guess my understanding of science has been pretty shaky. This is the first time I’ve even heard of falsifiability. I can't even pronounce it

  • @nagaul21
    @nagaul21 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Translate to bahasa Indonesian pleasee because we need this knowledge

    • @safemode5347
      @safemode5347 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      learn English mate

  • @abigaillimuria
    @abigaillimuria 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Who knew meme reviews can be so thoughtful

  • @singo7427
    @singo7427 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kim jiwon

  • @Rubbinghandsschemingsomething
    @Rubbinghandsschemingsomething 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah, so sad that a lot of people misinterpret pak Bagus' "fancy" speech as pretentious or esoteric, when it's actually kinda the opposite 😢
    I support you wholeheartedly, pak. I learned a lot from you. Keep up the good work 🔥

  • @2ia01_imanuelalbertnugroho7
    @2ia01_imanuelalbertnugroho7 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Please invite him in malaka project

  • @cador1624
    @cador1624 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bang bagus, bang andovi dan kak abigail auto subscribe

  • @fadlyansyah5941
    @fadlyansyah5941 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please invite Faye

  • @gabrielangelius5269
    @gabrielangelius5269 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's easier to get the summary of conversation by put some title on specific time through this video.

  • @P.A.N.D.O.R.A.A
    @P.A.N.D.O.R.A.A 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As they speak in English, I dont think majoerity people want to acces this important and amzaing content...
    Ppl ought to turn the subtitle on...

    • @zzz_sunshine
      @zzz_sunshine 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As the guest is Bagus, he has numerous Bahasa podcasts or talks for free on TH-cam. Nobody is missing anything, just this one particular video.

  • @MRizalWrc
    @MRizalWrc วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oke subscribes 😊

  • @Peanut933
    @Peanut933 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Muliyadi has much proud on his way to go to Taiwan. He just forgot the main question 😂

  • @aditdidot5406
    @aditdidot5406 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'd say mas Sabrang MDP aka Noe

  • @MbahMu9829
    @MbahMu9829 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Me ams no inglesh. Ma only know good. Good good good

  • @slovedduagemilangcbnsbygjk1471
    @slovedduagemilangcbnsbygjk1471 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Abigail paling sering mengedipkan mata😅, 1 detik bisa 3-4 kali abigail berkedip

  • @ternakcrypto1
    @ternakcrypto1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    aku mau nyumbang stand mic kirim kemana ya

    • @Sir3gar
      @Sir3gar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      me too 😊

  • @01_rickyjulianto_fh10
    @01_rickyjulianto_fh10 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ada part yang kena cut padahal lagi seru-serunya bahas. wheteher God does or dosen't exist through the lens of scientic. tapi mungkiin cari aman kali ya.

    • @WIUI
      @WIUI  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Actually the conversation regarding that topic did end there, we just cut the part where andovi blanked 😅 so no worries we didn’t cut anything

    • @imanadipurnama5425
      @imanadipurnama5425 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WIUII was thinking the same thing. I was worried there are some missing conversation 😅

  • @landak136
    @landak136 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally, after gen Z channels such as WIUI or Malaka being accused of "not educational" or "wasting time in criticizing issues" compared to mas Bagus. Sweet revenge!

    • @ggh_-ts6pn
      @ggh_-ts6pn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      but seriously, If we compare what Bagus said here to what people like Abigail, Andovi, and Indah G have been preaching, its like night and day. I've got tired of circlejerks about how stupid and how bad Indonesians are from people like them. I love it when Bagus schools them on how we can learn from "kearifan lokal", something which tend to be discarded as stupid by people like them. Man, I want Bagus to come on Indah G podcast so bad lol.

    • @landak136
      @landak136 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ggh_-ts6pn Not a big fan of Indah G. Regardless of her views, she speaks like a horribly irritating chainsaw.

  • @orangindonesia6308
    @orangindonesia6308 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The disbelief in the existence of God is, in fact, highly irrational because the universe could not have come into existence on its own. The existence of a Creator is therefore a more rational conclusion. People who deny the existence of God should not claim themselves to be rational, as the concept of divinity aligns with logic and reason. However, it is important to note that divinity is not necessarily tied to religion. Religion is a human construct and often includes mythical elements. Unfortunately, in Indonesia, there are still professors, lecturers, teachers, students, and researchers who believe in various myths, whether they are religious in nature or related to supernatural phenomena such as ghosts or astrology, which are inherently irrational.

  • @abror_kemal
    @abror_kemal วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about , we recreate the deffinition of gotongroyongisme again ? What do you say ? That was our founding fathers solving anyways . More than that , even our morals and cultures is way bigger than any countries we still tolerate others, the good point are maked , the act was already on the way , keep positive .
    What if our capability to behave is the greatest in the world , why we so insekyur about it , why we so easy to manipulate ourself , seeing people who already have a great job is more relevant than feeling enough to be like this in whole of time .
    Can we talk about How negara berkepulauan yang berkecukupan is ?

    • @abror_kemal
      @abror_kemal วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like what mas bagus did , can i join the whats upp indonesia ✌🏻

  • @Ddogartt
    @Ddogartt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Indonesia needs to get rid any backward beliefs, which not compatible with progressive thinking, collaboration with different people, that think other people who is not the same with them belongs to hell..

  • @citrakiranalarasati4715
    @citrakiranalarasati4715 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ngak bisa bahasa Enggres 😂

  • @tomjones8293
    @tomjones8293 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ando please stop speaking Bahasa. English only please thanks

    • @hinatanation
      @hinatanation 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they're Indonesian so they should be allowed to speak bahasa Indonesia no? who are you telling them to stop speaking bahasa Indonesia?

    • @tomjones8293
      @tomjones8293 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hinatanation I am American and maybe I'm in wrong chanel thanks bye I'm goin

  • @FahmiKafabi
    @FahmiKafabi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    tengah motong mulu

  • @pengkurohandal248
    @pengkurohandal248 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 Indonesians Speaking English: Who is this Podcast For? Indonesians?

    • @aryabudhijatmikolelono4366
      @aryabudhijatmikolelono4366 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      indonesian, mostly international-rised indonesian or indonesian who want to practice their english?

    • @pengkurohandal248
      @pengkurohandal248 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aryabudhijatmikolelono4366 okay so this is exclusive podcast for exclusive Indonesians, thanks.

    • @aryabudhijatmikolelono4366
      @aryabudhijatmikolelono4366 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pengkurohandal248 you're welcome if you consider english is an exclusive skill rather than must-have skill😐

    • @pengkurohandal248
      @pengkurohandal248 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@aryabudhijatmikolelono4366 Yes, of course, English is an exclusive skill for 93% of Indonesians. Only 7% can go to college, and even then, there's no guarantee they can speak English well.
      So, three Indonesians discussing Indonesia in English is clearly for an exclusive group

    • @zzz_sunshine
      @zzz_sunshine 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wouldn't say exclusive, but having the ability to listen and fully grasp this podcast is surely a privilege.

  • @Putri_NK
    @Putri_NK 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    33:45 noteddd

  • @Putri_NK
    @Putri_NK 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:06:48 noteddd

  • @Putri_NK
    @Putri_NK 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    38:38 notedddf

  • @Putri_NK
    @Putri_NK 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    54:04 oh ini yg dibilang Cania, meritocracy ok dlm pmrintahan, tp klo perwakilan suku ini gak perform, ya hrs ttp diganti sm yg bisa perform.. klo gak, ya nnti performa pmrinth scr ksluruhan kurang.

  • @inijugakoi
    @inijugakoi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ngerti gitu blajar bahasa inggris yg bener dari duluu biar bisa kayak mas Bagus Mulyadi dapet scholarship by letter