11:43 Simple History: "Look at all these examples of badly designed guns from around the world!" Also Simple History: " ....and here is the Italian section..."
Id sooner trust anything with the Czech CZ logo from that period and to this day, but Italy did make a pretty solid SMG. I'd have to say the M50 SMG made by Hungary would be the best SMG made during the war.
Just imagine. You have a gun that functions as a live grenade, so you reduce the stopping power until it’s ineffective, and then it STILL doesn’t work right, but the Italians accept it for service anyway.
Saw a gyro jet at auction for 500,000 reserve with 200 rounds. Sold for 1.2 million after a bidding war between two buyers. Was a cool weapon to see in person.
@@Slender_Man_186 the link goes to the pistol but it has a different case than the one i saw. hmm... the rifle was pretty rare wasn't it? maybe that would auction for a lot.
As would modern firearms apparently. This is because cartridges contain their own oxidizer, meaning they don't need to be in an atmosphere to get the bullet going. This also means because there's no friction in a vacuum, bullets would just keep going and going.
@@Stop_Gooning Right, Newton's 3rd law. For every force there must also be a counterforce. I suppose the Quora articles about using guns in space would still require some gravity. Like the Moon.
I love that "Cursed guns that shouldn't have been made" has an entire section on italian guns (edit) no offense to Italians. Today they make awesome high quality guns and cars. Sic parvis magna
Italian armour also has an entire section on "Cursed vehicles that shouldn't have been made". Italians have made some of the finest small arms on the planet and continue to. They also produced a heap of junk :D
I can't believe they were foolish enough to think anyone would pick up the brass/clips after a firefight and they would make it back to Italy for reloading 🤣
I like that the Gyrojet pistol is the only one capable of not having any inside nor outside problems. All it has is poor accuracy results and highly-expensive bullets. It didn't get jammed, malfunction, disassembled, nor hurt the user when shooting. Besides the accuracy and bullets, it was PERFECT. I even like how you reload it in the chamber rather than having it's own magazine, just like revolvers.
The Gyrojet also had the problem of having a _minimum_ effective range, as it took some distance for the projectile to reach a speed where it was effective. Accordingly, it was almost useless against someone standing right in front of you, or at the ranges typically encountered in house-to-house fighting. Additionally, because the rounds carried the propellant internally, they had a significantly lower sectional density (i.e., weight per cross-sectional area), increasing the effect of drag on the projectile after the propellant burned out.
@@Pogger927 Wait, now you're confusing me. Seanmalloy7249 (possibly renamed themselves in the future) just specifically said that it's range is very minimum. Thus, how can you basically say "it's a sniper pistol" when it has poor range distance? Or maybe you're saying that it's a pistol that shoots bullet fast like a sniper bullet would fly? Or maybe...it's fast up-close? Now I'm confusing myself! FCKED!
The Bodeo is a great revolver. Sturdy, well made and decently powerful.( Nearly ballistically identical to .44 Special) No way I would have traded it for a Glisenti
How is the carcano a gun that shouldn’t have been made, or the chauchat? They’re both weapons introduced by countries since they needed a variant of a Great War era rifle and proto light machine gun.
2:12 This problem is called "chain fire." Cooking off is when a gun fires because the propellant gets too hot, which is more common in fully automatic guns.
Though not well known today, the Smith and Wesson Light Rifle deserves an honorable mention. The British neglected to mention that their military 9mm at the time was more powerful than the US 9mm cartridges available for testing. On delivery and testing in the UK the rifles promply began blowing up. Only a few remain today because the UK, (desperate as they were for weapons) threw them in the sea! It almost bankrupted S&W until they worked out a deal to provide .38 revolvers instead.
The S&W light rifle was an over-engineered mess, far too complicated for military use, an ergonomic nightmare and too heavy to be called a "light rifle" besides. It was a turkey and the only reason it was accepted is Britain needed guns - ANY guns - at that point in time.
"The Modelo 35 hand grenades were offensive grenades." As opposed to defensive grenades which don't explode, they play a sound byte telling the enemy to please go away.
No, as opposed to defensive grenades that has a lethal blast radius that is wider than an average soldier can throw it, necessitating that it be used from a defensive position (in a building, a trench, behind a barrier, etc). Offensive grenades have a smaller lethal blast radius. Some modern examples are things like flash bangs, rubber pellet, and tear gas grenades.
I recall the gyrojet's issues were due to poor QC on the ammo, and a low production rate driving up costs. I imagine nowadays, gyrojet ammo could be designed better thanks to CAD and technological advances in ammo production.
@@Annathroy less recoil and no more hot brass to eject. could be worth a try looking at it again with modern designing and manufacturing processes. And "never change a runnig system" is a very lazy point of view in this kinda context as warfare always changes and the most advanced forces most often become the winner. Just look at napoleon, when he had paper cartridges while the french didnt. or the us who had an atom bomb while japan didnt. there are many more examples but i guess you get the point
you average specialized bullet would still be cheaper, disposable and effective than little rockets that you have to keep safely stored at all times when not in service.
Any Carcano that isn't the M1891 is my favorite cause it's an amazing action and rifle in general that, as long as the actual platform isn't outdated, tended to outperform other bolt action rifles of its time
The "Special Atomic Demolition Munition" is probably the most dangerous contraption in history. It would be impossible for the operator to flee after the timer was set making using one a "one way" mission.
A bow and arrow are not powerful enough to bring down an animal larger than an elephant (unless shot in the eye). Ancient humans used a wooden hand-held spear throwing device called an atlatl.
What bothers me, is I, and assuming you and many others, just ABSORB these facts and bits of knowledge effortlessly, yet struggle with things you HAVE to memorize.
_The Liberator~_ Reason why it was shipped with extra rounds concealed in the grip is so, once used, the Freedom Fighter with a now better weapon; passed the pistol along to another Freedom Fighter. He would repeat the process. It was never intended for any one individual to fire more than one round from the weapon. Quality was such that, once the last stored round was fired, the pistol was no longer safe to shoot; and meant to be thrown away. While most were destroyed after the war, a significant percentage of Liberators were dropped to US friendly Freedom Fighters in the Pacific Southeast. A famous b&w photo of an Asian Freedom Fighter exists, that shows a Liberator partially tucked into his waistband.
Ian McCallum was able to get a 30-06 Chauchat to work well on forgotten weapons, I think the set of circumstances have to be right but if you stick to them, it can run reliably with the 30-06’s (apparently).
Until the gun is battered to bits by said firing.AFAIK, that was one of the problems with the Chauchat in general. It was just shoddy. The 30-06 version just failed quicker.That, and the aforementioned open sided mags in the mud and crud of the trenches. Any gun can work well under near perfect conditions.
I remember reading somewhere that the chauchats entire issue was the magazine. If the magazine was close sided and had a little more care taken in it's manufacturing it would have run amazingly.
@@jasonseigfried8941 The magazine was _a_ major issue, but not _the_ major issue. One of the standing problems with the Chauchat was that, outside of the barrel sleeve and the moving parts in the bolt, parts were not always interchangeable between weapons. Side plate assemblies used screws that would work themselves loose during firing, and all of the weapons made by Gladiator had misaligned sights, requiring correction by the gunner.
Another fault of the Gyrojet was it some distance after leaving the barrel of the weapon to reach terminal velocity meaning a point blank shot might not even be enough to pierce flesh and if so still not really enough to do much damage.
It's a shame that so many were dumped in the sea or melted down. I guess that explains why original or reproduction models of the Liberator are so damn expensive. For a pistol that cost less than $3 to produce, they now cost over a thousand dollars, if you can find one for sale.
@@johnmullholand2044 One of the problems with it was that it was chambered and 45 ACP meaning you only had what you were provided for ammunition while over there instead of chambering it and something that would have been more useful like 9 mm or 7.65
@@johnraymma again the point was not really to shoot the gun more that once or twice, to kill a soldier and take their rifle and ammo so with that in mind 45acp has a decent kick in a small package, seems idea really for what they had and what they wanted to do with it
The Japanese myth is also less believable because most that tried surrendering even totally un armed still got shot . I’d imagine anyone still holding a gun was shot even quicker.
The mars was a great pistol in battlefield 1, goes to show again how in video games stuff doesn't break down or misfire like in real life so it's a lot better than the real life counterpart. Same with the Chachut, was my go to lmg.
Would be amazing if DICE worked this stat into the game similar to Far Cry 2; prevents redundant weapons when some have higher chance of misfire and can definitely help balance the high RoF or high capacity weapons if they're more prone to malfunctioning and jamming the way they are in real life. I'm so tired of post-BC2 BF games devolving into an SMG meta like it's CoD and the weapon platform hasn't been obsolete in 15+ years.
The Mars actually worked reasonably well - it just delivered a round with 50% more power than a 45ACP however. A pre1900 gun for Dirty Harry. For comparison the 45ACP was dropped because the US army basically concluded that putting having a gun that everyone they recruited could put every shot into a target beat having a gun that only 10% of their recruits could master.
@@allangibson8494 The 1911A1 was used by the US military from 1911 until the mid-1980s. From what I heard, from my dad and others, if you could hit a man sized target anywhere from around 25 yards, you were "qualified". Also, the main reason they switched to the M9 Beretta was the fact that most existing 1911s in military stocks were dated from WW2! Rather than replacing them with new .45s, they decided to go with the 9mm for NATO commonality. I guess the idea was if combined NATO forces were fighting together, they would have one common pistol cartridge. You could take cartridges from an ally if needed, even if you used different pistols.
@@johnmullholand2044 The M1911 limited WHO could qualify. It places physical requirements on the user that the 9mm Parabellum doesn’t. The difference is terminal effects is actually marginal but the probability and speed of actually qualifying with 9mm is much higher than the 45… Second shots were demonstrably faster with 9mm and magazine capacity was much higher in a physically smaller package. The Air Force ditched the 45 as soon as they could.
The revolver rifle isn't cursed. Especially the 1855 Colt. It is, literally, the most successful of that type of firearm. The 21st Ohio Volunteer Infantry fought at the Battle of Chickamauga and fired 55 rounds per day per man. That's about 10 times more on average than other soldiers. They even held the line for the northern retreat. No reports from them of any self inflicted wounds due to chain fire
The revolver rifles they make now are great , they have little wing type deflectors so you dont need to worry about the gas as it redirects it and with cartridges being used now you dont need to worry about chain fires
Revolver rifles looks so good. The largest problem I can think of for Colt 1855 was a result of the ammo technology of the time that it had to be designed for.
@Bo Hellan if they can manage to make the pistol more cost effective for citizens, then maybe they'll have the funds to make an effective real life bolter!
0:50 Colt M1855 Revolving Carbine US Union Army 2:57 Mars Pistol British Army 4:57 Glesenti M1910 Italian Army 6:52 Gyrojet Rocket Propelled Pistol US Army 8:52 Nabu type 94 Japanese Army 11:43 Italian Infantry weapons of WW2 12:20 Glesenti M1910 and Beretta M1934 13:32 Carcano M1891 and M1891/35 14:58 Beretta M1938 and M1938/42 16:46 Breda M1930 18:26 Fiat Revelli M1914/35 19:19 Breda M1937 20:21 Modello 35 22:00 FP-45 Liberator Mini Pistol 25:02 Chauchat LMG of WW1
The gyrojet could be used instead as a concept gun for space combat seeing as it produces little recoil (More recoil in space = you getting pushed backwards)
7:30 gyro have no recoil AT ALL. It's the same design as guns we call "RECOILLESS" while they are 30x bigger than this. In video guys should pew-pew without moving anything but their finger. it's worth adding that gasses sent to the sides while starting rocket had tendency to throw dirt in every direction in prone position, which could cause problems. Shooting while prone or in tight quarters, risked burning yourself from exhaust gases or at least throwing random dirt and dust in your face.
So the “cooking-off” part was NOT an issue found exclusively on the revolving carbine. Loading the cylinders with bullets that don’t provide a good seal to protect the powder in each chamber was a condition that would have caused any cap and ball revolver to have a catastrophic failure. The other method used to prevent this condition was to fill the chambers with fat or wax overtop of the bullets. The ‘proper’ way to load a cap and ball revolver is to use lead bullets casted to be a tight enough fit to have a small ring of the lead ball cut out when ramming the ball into the chamber. This is what provides that sealed condition that both prevents a chain fire, as well as allow the revolver to be more easily fired in damp weather/rain.
The list skipped the Napoleonic era seven barrelled naval gun designed by Nock of London. The recoil often broke the shoulder of the user so it was swiftly discontinued.
0:50 Imagine if this BATF had been around then. “A rifle stock on a handgun?! It’ll bring the end of civilization! Previously innocent people will be drawn into committing murder sprees! It’ll be the end of all mankind!”😫
A red Bredda Modello 35 hand grenade, makes you think of that TNT scene from Hoodwinked. "Hm, it says...Fragelie, must be Italian." When the critter sees "FRAGILE" on the crate. 😂
The one cursed weapon that should've been put into full production would be the Stoner 63. It can be an assault rifle, a belt fed LMG, or a Bren style MG, depending on the mission
10:25 This seems like an action movie ending or something "Drop the gun!" "Listen man, you don't gotta do this" "Drop it!" "Alright, you asked for it..."
I have the ppk copy in 9x18 and it's a baby to shoot, the Hungarian p64 was a more of a pp sized handgun and are extremely easy to shoot. Definitely not a beginner handgun though because of the size.
Im amazed how few people are pointing out the massive, obvious shift in the video, just suddenly changing to a new title about Italian guns in world war II, which okay, still cursed guns, the first ones a repeat from earlier in the video but okay. Then you go onto describe the Italian SMG used in Ww2 as one of the best, and describe what good parts made it special. Did your editor or anyone proof watch this or did you just know it doesn't matter?
Simple history is litterly the best yt channel to just bench watch. You are making so many good videos. I have been watching for a long time and I still love your videos ❤❤❤
The Mars did work. It' a Victorian Desert Eagle, you just don't need a sidearm that powerful. It was basically an autoloading magnum before magnum revolvers existed and you don't need or want a design that complex without a stupidly powerful cartridge to justify it.
Between the American M2 Browning, German MG42, British Lewis Gun and Soviet -Maxim- DP-28. Italians (and French) really got the short end of the straw when it came to MGs.
@@thunderkatz4219 You are in fact correct... for some weird reason I always assumed the designer was Russian, but Hiram Maxim was actually American-British.
@@abimeteor So I watched a Forgotten Weapons vid on FM 24/29 (had never heard of it before) and I stand corrected. Chauchat though.... unreliable, even when it was clean, exposed magazine, slow rate of fire that made it seem more like semi-auto rifle than an LMG... it was terrible.
I think the gyrojet was more of a proof of concept weapon that would've been appropriate for arming our space marines in their 0-G boarding actions on soviet satellite nuclear platforms.
I love the 'liberator'. "you get one shot, with an ammunition widely unpopular and rare in the area distributed. This is mainly the gun you use to get a better one because there is barely anything worse than that around you. Oh, also IF you use it, prepare that it'll probably not last more than 40 to 50 shots at tops. But hey, you won't do that anyway"
Also, it was made with the assumption that most of the Liberators dropped into France would've been recovered by the Germans rather than resistance fighters. But this was considered fine, because it would increase paranoia among German occupation troops. They would have no way of knowing how many had been dropped and how widely they were spread among the populace, the Germans would have no idea how many French civilians were secretly armed.
I call this gun the "Nerf Or Nothing" It's ammo capacity is 1 Now you're probably thinking "but it's only a lame a*s gun why would we even care?" That's why i made it so the Nerf Or Nothing powerful It's design might be DogWater but do not judge the book by it's cover. Because once you get fooled you are dead. "But why? With just one ammo?" Well that ammo, is a gaint nuke that explodes on impact making it impossible to escape. Attachment: Flashlight Silencer Scope Tactical lazer Nuke Warning Sign Tactical knife thing that is taped on the pistol (Nerf Or Nothing) Perks: 50% speed on user 60% health on user 30% jump height on user User achieved ultra instinct 100000000000000000000000000+ damage Kills everyone (including team) Downgrades: Cannot switch weapons. Cannot swim. +1000 ADS time
We forgot about the most cursed and insidious gun. One dreaded from our childhoods and often used by narcissistic weirdos when you least expect it, even though they look stupid using it. The dreaded finger gun! 😂
Ever been to Italy? Not the most hospitable place. In the country areas where tourists never go, sure fairly welcoming. In even the 3⁰ tier tourist areas, they act like you are just another POS on holiday. If you want a similar atmosphere, but with actual welcoming people try Croatia. Amazing country.
Atleast they are better than Fo4 guns, both 3 and NV had good looking guns but 4 takes them and tosses the logic,you can't compare fo3's Assult Rifle or NV's Service Rifle with fo4 "Assult Rifle" (even though it was ment to initially be a LMG,the silencer says it also I ask for forgiveness for my poor use of the english lenguage)
Is it just me or does anyone else think that some of the latest Simple history videos are compilations of their older videos? Maybe it is good that newer subscribers can see the older videos and that new projects take so much time that filler videos are needed. Edit: Well, most of their videos are still new with new topics but there are a few of the compilation videos.
Another consideration with revolver rifles in general: even if they don't suffer from cookoff, the cylinder gap makes it hazardous to shoulder it the way you'd normally shoulder a rifle, as there's the risk that the gases escaping from between the cylinder and the barrel will be perfectly positioned to go right into your face. There are modern ones that just add some metal to deflect the gases away from the user, in the vein of ejection port deflectors used to keep spent cases from hitting a left-handed user on a modern autoloading rifle. Hypothetically you could also make the revolver push the cylinder forward when it's brought into battery and seal the gap, like the Nagant revolver famously does. I don't know if any revolver rifles go that route though.
Yeah, a lot of the issues with safety were possible to mitigate or design around, but these also came out in 1855, only 5 years before the Spencer repeating rifle, and it was fairly obvious that a revolver design was not the way to go in the long term.
Too much hate on the Mars-Webley, it was basically just the O.G. Desert Eagle, and only holding the same amount of ammo as a revolver doesn't matter because reloads are still way faster because of the mag
11:43 Simple History: "Look at all these examples of badly designed guns from around the world!"
Also Simple History: " ....and here is the Italian section..."
Also did the mars pistol twice
I did have to chuckle at "cursed guns that shouldnt have been made" was 70% the Italian WW2 armoury 😂
At least we learned how to make them right after WWII
@@irishwristwatch2487 Pretty unfair considering Beretta Model 38 was a top tier smg. One of the top tier guns one could use that wasnt stg-44
Id sooner trust anything with the Czech CZ logo from that period and to this day, but Italy did make a pretty solid SMG. I'd have to say the M50 SMG made by Hungary would be the best SMG made during the war.
Just imagine. You have a gun that functions as a live grenade, so you reduce the stopping power until it’s ineffective, and then it STILL doesn’t work right, but the Italians accept it for service anyway.
Tediore makes good guns, what can I say?
@@sparrow-does-stuff A person of culture I see
Mamma mia! What a pizza crap!
@@sparrow-does-stuff People say gun technology hasn't improved that much since WW2 until they try creating guns from Borderlands.
Why do I feel like this is going to turn into a borderlands gun debate comment thread?
Saw a gyro jet at auction for 500,000 reserve with 200 rounds. Sold for 1.2 million after a bidding war between two buyers. Was a cool weapon to see in person.
Saw one at a gun show back in the early 90s selling for like $2k with a partial box of ammo. guess that woulda been a nice investment.
@@molochi Even without ammo you'd probably 10X as long as it was in good condition.
Was it the pistol or rifle?
@@Slender_Man_186 the link goes to the pistol but it has a different case than the one i saw. hmm... the rifle was pretty rare wasn't it? maybe that would auction for a lot.
@@Slender_Man_186 the rifle, I was amazed that they had that much original ammo for it.
"Let's see which is stronger: My luck or this gun's curse." *throws gun into air*
Its you once again
*Zoro dies*
I like how they draw guns in great detail
The attention to detail on the animations is superb. At 19:30 you can see the magazines get larger as they move towards the camera.
I liked the reflection of the sky in the soldier's helmets
The Gyrojet was originally intended for use in outer space.
Funnily enough, a bow and arrow would be super effective in zero-G.
As would modern firearms apparently.
This is because cartridges contain their own oxidizer, meaning they don't need to be in an atmosphere to get the bullet going. This also means because there's no friction in a vacuum, bullets would just keep going and going.
@StressmanFIN true, recoil is an issue so. Unless you can brace yourself
@@StressmanFIN you don't want high impulse recoil in zero-G because it will make you spin; the Gyrojet has _almost_ no recoil.
@@Stop_Gooning Right, Newton's 3rd law. For every force there must also be a counterforce.
I suppose the Quora articles about using guns in space would still require some gravity. Like the Moon.
@@StressmanFIN Yeah, I probably wouldn't go to Quora for.... well, anything really.
I love that "Cursed guns that shouldn't have been made"
has an entire section on italian guns
(edit) no offense to Italians. Today they make awesome high quality guns and cars. Sic parvis magna
Well the Italians did a lot of experimentation. Italians have also made some of the best firearms in history.
im pretty sure its supposed to be 3 shorter videos lol
Italian armour also has an entire section on "Cursed vehicles that shouldn't have been made".
Italians have made some of the finest small arms on the planet and continue to. They also produced a heap of junk :D
@@AdamOwenBrowning They definitely made up for it now with modern italian awesome cars and guns.
Sic parvis magna
I can't believe they were foolish enough to think anyone would pick up the brass/clips after a firefight and they would make it back to Italy for reloading 🤣
I like that the Gyrojet pistol is the only one capable of not having any inside nor outside problems. All it has is poor accuracy results and highly-expensive bullets. It didn't get jammed, malfunction, disassembled, nor hurt the user when shooting. Besides the accuracy and bullets, it was PERFECT. I even like how you reload it in the chamber rather than having it's own magazine, just like revolvers.
I mean the video did state that the Berreta sub was really good. It didn't really list any flaws of the cheaper variant either.
The Gyrojet also had the problem of having a _minimum_ effective range, as it took some distance for the projectile to reach a speed where it was effective. Accordingly, it was almost useless against someone standing right in front of you, or at the ranges typically encountered in house-to-house fighting. Additionally, because the rounds carried the propellant internally, they had a significantly lower sectional density (i.e., weight per cross-sectional area), increasing the effect of drag on the projectile after the propellant burned out.
@@seanmalloy7249 So, simply put: very poor distance range. Well, at least the pistol didn't combust due to malfunction or something.
Basically,the gyrojet is a sniper pistol
@@Pogger927 Wait, now you're confusing me. Seanmalloy7249 (possibly renamed themselves in the future) just specifically said that it's range is very minimum. Thus, how can you basically say "it's a sniper pistol" when it has poor range distance? Or maybe you're saying that it's a pistol that shoots bullet fast like a sniper bullet would fly? Or maybe...it's fast up-close? Now I'm confusing myself! FCKED!
Seeing the Mars, the Bodeo, the carcano M91 and the Chauchat in Battlefield 1 turned this video 10x more epic.
The Bodeo is a great revolver. Sturdy, well made and decently powerful.( Nearly ballistically identical to .44 Special)
No way I would have traded it for a Glisenti
@@sharonrigs7999 yep ,my favorite side guns in BF 1( in-game ) are the Bodeo, the Mars and the 1911 pistol
@@samirmartins8996 an iconic gun user i see
@Samir Martins we big howdah fans round these parts boah
How is the carcano a gun that shouldn’t have been made, or the chauchat? They’re both weapons introduced by countries since they needed a variant of a Great War era rifle and proto light machine gun.
2:12 This problem is called "chain fire." Cooking off is when a gun fires because the propellant gets too hot, which is more common in fully automatic guns.
Beeswax helps with that aswell.
@@justinrobert2770 Yeah, I imagine anything that sealed chambers would help reduce the chance of chain fire.
@@JonathanRossRogers I just used Crisco, waterproofs the chamber and acts as a lubricant
"The worst guns in history."
"The Beretta M1938 was one of the best SMGs of WW2."
Something doesn't add up here.
Yeah this video was great untill the Italian part. Also the audio and narrator changed??? WTF
@@Rando_Shyte
It is one of their previous videos.
The whole italian segment.
Though not well known today, the Smith and Wesson Light Rifle deserves an honorable mention. The British neglected to mention that their military 9mm at the time was more powerful than the US 9mm cartridges available for testing. On delivery and testing in the UK the rifles promply began blowing up. Only a few remain today because the UK, (desperate as they were for weapons) threw them in the sea! It almost bankrupted S&W until they worked out a deal to provide .38 revolvers instead.
with how many guns they threw at sea through history im surprised the sea fauna didnt decide to arm itself and get revenge on us
The S&W light rifle was an over-engineered mess, far too complicated for military use, an ergonomic nightmare and too heavy to be called a "light rifle" besides.
It was a turkey and the only reason it was accepted is Britain needed guns - ANY guns - at that point in time.
Wait, S&W is a british company?
@@nursestoyland No. The Ministry of Defence (was it still War at that point?) contracted out to S&W.
@nursestoyland No, American. The guns were sold or "loaned" to the British during WW2. Lend/lease act. Long story.
"The Modelo 35 hand grenades were offensive grenades."
As opposed to defensive grenades which don't explode, they play a sound byte telling the enemy to please go away.
Ok. I need this in ArmA now. Just toss it into a bunker and it goes “hi yeah the NATO team owns this now. Can you leave?”
@Lamda² That is true.
@Lamda² Or flashbangs.
No you idiots. Offensive grenades have a higher kill radius defensive grenades such as high explosive are safer to use at closer range
No, as opposed to defensive grenades that has a lethal blast radius that is wider than an average soldier can throw it, necessitating that it be used from a defensive position (in a building, a trench, behind a barrier, etc).
Offensive grenades have a smaller lethal blast radius.
Some modern examples are things like flash bangs, rubber pellet, and tear gas grenades.
I recall the gyrojet's issues were due to poor QC on the ammo, and a low production rate driving up costs.
I imagine nowadays, gyrojet ammo could be designed better thanks to CAD and technological advances in ammo production.
@Adam Korzeniowski yeah but still
CAD designing can remove most of the gyrojet’s ammo issues
@@karotgamin790 yeah but why ruin a good thing? I mean, gyro doesnt provide many pluses to be worthwhile
@@Annathroy less recoil and no more hot brass to eject. could be worth a try looking at it again with modern designing and manufacturing processes. And "never change a runnig system" is a very lazy point of view in this kinda context as warfare always changes and the most advanced forces most often become the winner. Just look at napoleon, when he had paper cartridges while the french didnt. or the us who had an atom bomb while japan didnt. there are many more examples but i guess you get the point
The amount of metal wasted in casings ejected always bothered me, this system feels more efficient.
you average specialized bullet would still be cheaper, disposable and effective than little rockets that you have to keep safely stored at all times when not in service.
Any Carcano that isn't the M1891 is my favorite cause it's an amazing action and rifle in general that, as long as the actual platform isn't outdated, tended to outperform other bolt action rifles of its time
The "Special Atomic Demolition Munition" is probably the most dangerous contraption in history. It would be impossible for the operator to flee after the timer was set making using one a "one way" mission.
Personally I love that somebody brought down a wooly mammoth with a bow and arrow, but 3 people used a spear each to take down a gazelle
😂yes thats what i think
im sure thats exactly how chad and the boys did it.
Higher stats
A bow and arrow are not powerful enough to bring down an animal larger than an elephant (unless shot in the eye). Ancient humans used a wooden hand-held spear throwing device called an atlatl.
Nice to see that Simple History is making cursed gun images videos now.
More random gun knowledge to add to the large pile in my brain. Excellent. 🧠
What bothers me, is I, and assuming you and many others, just ABSORB these facts and bits of knowledge effortlessly, yet struggle with things you HAVE to memorize.
thats life. too much useless info were forced to know and then we forget the one time in life that information is needed
_The Liberator~_
Reason why it was shipped with extra rounds concealed in the grip is so, once used, the Freedom Fighter with a now better weapon; passed the pistol along to another Freedom Fighter. He would repeat the process. It was never intended for any one individual to fire more than one round from the weapon. Quality was such that, once the last stored round was fired, the pistol was no longer safe to shoot; and meant to be thrown away.
While most were destroyed after the war, a significant percentage of Liberators were dropped to US friendly Freedom Fighters in the Pacific Southeast. A famous b&w photo of an Asian Freedom Fighter exists, that shows a Liberator partially tucked into his waistband.
My favorite part is that this video is about crappy guns and there’s an entire section dedicated to Italian WW2 guns
“If a bullet to the chest won’t stop you, my words will!” Winston Churchill
"A Bullet Can't stop the Bullmoose! Tr will Give WC the full duce!" Theodore Roosevelt
Ian McCallum was able to get a 30-06 Chauchat to work well on forgotten weapons, I think the set of circumstances have to be right but if you stick to them, it can run reliably with the 30-06’s (apparently).
Until the gun is battered to bits by said firing.AFAIK, that was one of the problems with the Chauchat in general. It was just shoddy. The 30-06 version just failed quicker.That, and the aforementioned open sided mags in the mud and crud of the trenches. Any gun can work well under near perfect conditions.
I remember reading somewhere that the chauchats entire issue was the magazine. If the magazine was close sided and had a little more care taken in it's manufacturing it would have run amazingly.
@@jasonseigfried8941 The magazine was _a_ major issue, but not _the_ major issue. One of the standing problems with the Chauchat was that, outside of the barrel sleeve and the moving parts in the bolt, parts were not always interchangeable between weapons. Side plate assemblies used screws that would work themselves loose during firing, and all of the weapons made by Gladiator had misaligned sights, requiring correction by the gunner.
Another fault of the Gyrojet was it some distance after leaving the barrel of the weapon to reach terminal velocity meaning a point blank shot might not even be enough to pierce flesh and if so still not really enough to do much damage.
I like how they became lazy in the middle of the video and just put the Italian weapons vid from a few years back
They were not lazy
The Liberator was designed as a good weapon to get a better weapon with.
It's a shame that so many were dumped in the sea or melted down. I guess that explains why original or reproduction models of the Liberator are so damn expensive. For a pistol that cost less than $3 to produce, they now cost over a thousand dollars, if you can find one for sale.
well, it failed at it's job.
@@DissedRedEngie How do you know that? There are little to no records of how many soldiers were killed by resistance fighters, or how they died.
@@johnmullholand2044 One of the problems with it was that it was chambered and 45 ACP meaning you only had what you were provided for ammunition while over there instead of chambering it and something that would have been more useful like 9 mm or 7.65
@@johnraymma again the point was not really to shoot the gun more that once or twice, to kill a soldier and take their rifle and ammo
so with that in mind 45acp has a decent kick in a small package, seems idea really for what they had and what they wanted to do with it
The Japanese myth is also less believable because most that tried surrendering even totally un armed still got shot . I’d imagine anyone still holding a gun was shot even quicker.
what is cursed is the "empty" or fired shells still have bullets in them
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Dang imagine having your whole arsenal on this list 😂
nah dude they really dissed Italy like that by putting their ww2 guns in this video 😂
The Liberator 4-barrel shotgun was pretty cool.
The loch and load, bruh
The mars was a great pistol in battlefield 1, goes to show again how in video games stuff doesn't break down or misfire like in real life so it's a lot better than the real life counterpart. Same with the Chachut, was my go to lmg.
Would be amazing if DICE worked this stat into the game similar to Far Cry 2; prevents redundant weapons when some have higher chance of misfire and can definitely help balance the high RoF or high capacity weapons if they're more prone to malfunctioning and jamming the way they are in real life.
I'm so tired of post-BC2 BF games devolving into an SMG meta like it's CoD and the weapon platform hasn't been obsolete in 15+ years.
The Mars actually worked reasonably well - it just delivered a round with 50% more power than a 45ACP however. A pre1900 gun for Dirty Harry.
For comparison the 45ACP was dropped because the US army basically concluded that putting having a gun that everyone they recruited could put every shot into a target beat having a gun that only 10% of their recruits could master.
Best example is the Tec 9. It is a PoS in reality, yet the best gun to rush B with Blyat
@@allangibson8494 The 1911A1 was used by the US military from 1911 until the mid-1980s. From what I heard, from my dad and others, if you could hit a man sized target anywhere from around 25 yards, you were "qualified". Also, the main reason they switched to the M9 Beretta was the fact that most existing 1911s in military stocks were dated from WW2! Rather than replacing them with new .45s, they decided to go with the 9mm for NATO commonality. I guess the idea was if combined NATO forces were fighting together, they would have one common pistol cartridge. You could take cartridges from an ally if needed, even if you used different pistols.
@@johnmullholand2044 The M1911 limited WHO could qualify. It places physical requirements on the user that the 9mm Parabellum doesn’t. The difference is terminal effects is actually marginal but the probability and speed of actually qualifying with 9mm is much higher than the 45… Second shots were demonstrably faster with 9mm and magazine capacity was much higher in a physically smaller package.
The Air Force ditched the 45 as soon as they could.
When your Italian friend in the army says he loves the Modello: “Which one? We have many?”
The revolver rifle isn't cursed. Especially the 1855 Colt. It is, literally, the most successful of that type of firearm. The 21st Ohio Volunteer Infantry fought at the Battle of Chickamauga and fired 55 rounds per day per man. That's about 10 times more on average than other soldiers. They even held the line for the northern retreat. No reports from them of any self inflicted wounds due to chain fire
The revolver rifles they make now are great , they have little wing type deflectors so you dont need to worry about the gas as it redirects it and with cartridges being used now you dont need to worry about chain fires
Yep much better rifle altogether, if they had been modified like that they likely would have been very popular
Revolver rifles looks so good.
The largest problem I can think of for Colt 1855 was a result of the ammo technology of the time that it had to be designed for.
What can you expect from a crass channel like this ?
Somebody: "Nambu Type-94 is worst gun"
ZIP .22: "Hol'up there, sonny"
8:40
[Insert the mandatory 40k Space Marine screeching noises whenever the gyrojet is mentioned, HERE]
I inherited a liberator from my grandpa. I don’t think I’ll ever shoot it since they weren’t intended for plinking and I don’t want to damage it.
6:51 for you warhammer fans, this is the closest man has gotten to making a bolt pistol irl
Agreed, and that alone makes it worthwhile to resurrect.
@Bo Hellan if they can manage to make the pistol more cost effective for citizens, then maybe they'll have the funds to make an effective real life bolter!
0:50 Colt M1855 Revolving Carbine US Union Army
2:57 Mars Pistol British Army
4:57 Glesenti M1910 Italian Army
6:52 Gyrojet Rocket Propelled Pistol US Army
8:52 Nabu type 94 Japanese Army
11:43 Italian Infantry weapons of WW2
12:20 Glesenti M1910 and Beretta M1934
13:32 Carcano M1891 and M1891/35
14:58 Beretta M1938 and M1938/42
16:46 Breda M1930
18:26 Fiat Revelli M1914/35
19:19 Breda M1937
20:21 Modello 35
22:00 FP-45 Liberator Mini Pistol
25:02 Chauchat LMG of WW1
The gyrojet could be used instead as a concept gun for space combat seeing as it produces little recoil (More recoil in space = you getting pushed backwards)
Probably too cold to work
Imagine firing a Browning MG in space and becoming a lethal projectile yourself
@@Flesh_Wizard on god lmao
A good repeating crossbow would probably be cheaper. Or maybe a repeating pcp weapon.
The Gyro Jet was a concept for a gun that would be used in space.
Man that colt revolver+M4/AR-15 combo is straight out of r/cursedguns
9:37 No that's the ZiP .22
7:30 gyro have no recoil AT ALL. It's the same design as guns we call "RECOILLESS" while they are 30x bigger than this. In video guys should pew-pew without moving anything but their finger.
it's worth adding that gasses sent to the sides while starting rocket had tendency to throw dirt in every direction in prone position, which could cause problems. Shooting while prone or in tight quarters, risked burning yourself from exhaust gases or at least throwing random dirt and dust in your face.
Two of my favorites, the Thompson Sub Machine Gun, and the Browning Automatic Rifle.
I like Maschinenpistole 40 and Maschinengewhr 42 and Braunung Automatisch Gewhr
2:20 small tidbit but the technical term for black powder revolvers going all off at once is chain firing, not cooking off. Great video!
Yeah, cooking off specifically refers to when a cartridge fires because it's heated up by a hot chamber.
I like how t took 1 single arrow to take down a Mammoth.
Yet it took 3 full spears to take down a Deer.
Yeah but the arrow was a magnum. 😂
Now people are talking about the intro
"These pistols suck"
"Let's throw them into the ocean"
Every time somebody puts an AR frame on a pistol, theres a new weapon that should not have been made.
As far as I know I'm the only one.
That's my gun they used for the picture.
So the “cooking-off” part was NOT an issue found exclusively on the revolving carbine. Loading the cylinders with bullets that don’t provide a good seal to protect the powder in each chamber was a condition that would have caused any cap and ball revolver to have a catastrophic failure. The other method used to prevent this condition was to fill the chambers with fat or wax overtop of the bullets. The ‘proper’ way to load a cap and ball revolver is to use lead bullets casted to be a tight enough fit to have a small ring of the lead ball cut out when ramming the ball into the chamber. This is what provides that sealed condition that both prevents a chain fire, as well as allow the revolver to be more easily fired in damp weather/rain.
or seal the chamber with grease/paste wax !
The list skipped the Napoleonic era seven barrelled naval gun designed by Nock of London. The recoil often broke the shoulder of the user so it was swiftly discontinued.
As used by sergeant Harper in Sharpe.
0:42 bruh wtf? hes holding in left hand and aiming with right eye
What I learnt is that the Italians made some shocking guns
0:50
Imagine if this BATF had been around then. “A rifle stock on a handgun?! It’ll bring the end of civilization! Previously innocent people will be drawn into committing murder sprees! It’ll be the end of all mankind!”😫
0:25 the GTA city lol
A red Bredda Modello 35 hand grenade, makes you think of that TNT scene from Hoodwinked.
"Hm, it says...Fragelie, must be Italian."
When the critter sees "FRAGILE" on the crate.
😂
The one cursed weapon that should've been put into full production would be the Stoner 63. It can be an assault rifle, a belt fed LMG, or a Bren style MG, depending on the mission
10:25 This seems like an action movie ending or something
"Drop the gun!"
"Listen man, you don't gotta do this"
"Drop it!"
"Alright, you asked for it..."
I’m really surprised that the P-64 Makarov didn’t make the cut. It was my first pistol and sold it shortly afterwards. It kicked like a mule.
I have the ppk copy in 9x18 and it's a baby to shoot, the Hungarian p64 was a more of a pp sized handgun and are extremely easy to shoot. Definitely not a beginner handgun though because of the size.
Im amazed how few people are pointing out the massive, obvious shift in the video, just suddenly changing to a new title about Italian guns in world war II, which okay, still cursed guns, the first ones a repeat from earlier in the video but okay. Then you go onto describe the Italian SMG used in Ww2 as one of the best, and describe what good parts made it special. Did your editor or anyone proof watch this or did you just know it doesn't matter?
omg yes , thank you
Also just resycling video ideas and even repostimg same videos....
TH-cam must’ve known I’ve been waiting for ol Brando to release another cursed gun images and showed me the next best thing
Simple history is litterly the best yt channel to just bench watch. You are making so many good videos.
I have been watching for a long time and I still love your videos ❤❤❤
Cursed Gun that should never exist: 600mm Rotary Cannon.
Good episode.
Mars could work if it was redesigned to be more easier to maintain along with dampering the recoil to where it's tolerable
The Mars did work. It' a Victorian Desert Eagle, you just don't need a sidearm that powerful. It was basically an autoloading magnum before magnum revolvers existed and you don't need or want a design that complex without a stupidly powerful cartridge to justify it.
"The Introducing of fire arms marks the most exciting chapter of the history of weapons " 💀💀💀💀
Why do Doors bleed?
Well?
@marlonursua3583you also expect a punchline?
@@tiberiusbrain🤦🏻♂️
I expected a joke
@@ChromaticChaos-l9n 🤦🏻♂️
Single shot rifle with a magazine? 😂😂 😂 You can’t make this up!
The Carcano M38 is actually one of the best bolt action rifles of WW2. Just ask Gun-Jesus him self.
bro has some personal beef with the italian weaponry industry
I have an 1858 carbine. Hard on the wrist
LOL at 8:24, the rocket ammo reminds me of the space marine bolter
Between the American M2 Browning, German MG42, British Lewis Gun and Soviet -Maxim- DP-28.
Italians (and French) really got the short end of the straw when it came to MGs.
The maxim is American
@@thunderkatz4219 Isn't it British?
the chauchat and FM 24/29 were good
@@thunderkatz4219 You are in fact correct... for some weird reason I always assumed the designer was Russian, but Hiram Maxim was actually American-British.
@@abimeteor So I watched a Forgotten Weapons vid on FM 24/29 (had never heard of it before) and I stand corrected.
Chauchat though.... unreliable, even when it was clean, exposed magazine, slow rate of fire that made it seem more like semi-auto rifle than an LMG... it was terrible.
20:50 the grenade looks like it is wearing a leather vest and a beret. These grenades look like teens trying to look cool.😂
I think the gyrojet was more of a proof of concept weapon that would've been appropriate for arming our space marines in their 0-G boarding actions on soviet satellite nuclear platforms.
Lmao that triple spear lol was hilarious in the beginning
The Ruger Mark Series Semi automatic .22 pistols are based off the Nambu design.
But are successful designs
@@mikeyoung490 Bill Ruger was a fan of the design, but improved it and brought it to market.
That explains so much lol
But that was Type 14 and not Type 94.
5:38 who would just put the receiver back in the gun like me
I love the 'liberator'.
"you get one shot, with an ammunition widely unpopular and rare in the area distributed. This is mainly the gun you use to get a better one because there is barely anything worse than that around you. Oh, also IF you use it, prepare that it'll probably not last more than 40 to 50 shots at tops. But hey, you won't do that anyway"
Also they made a lunatic amount of them.
To dump them into the sea.
Also, it was made with the assumption that most of the Liberators dropped into France would've been recovered by the Germans rather than resistance fighters. But this was considered fine, because it would increase paranoia among German occupation troops. They would have no way of knowing how many had been dropped and how widely they were spread among the populace, the Germans would have no idea how many French civilians were secretly armed.
I call this gun the "Nerf Or Nothing"
It's ammo capacity is 1
Now you're probably thinking "but it's only a lame a*s gun why would we even care?"
That's why i made it so the Nerf Or Nothing powerful
It's design might be DogWater but do not judge the book by it's cover. Because once you get fooled you are dead. "But why? With just one ammo?"
Well that ammo, is a gaint nuke that explodes on impact making it impossible to escape.
Attachment:
Flashlight
Silencer
Scope
Tactical lazer
Nuke Warning Sign
Tactical knife thing that is taped on the pistol (Nerf Or Nothing)
Perks:
50% speed on user
60% health on user
30% jump height on user
User achieved ultra instinct
100000000000000000000000000+ damage
Kills everyone (including team)
Downgrades:
Cannot switch weapons.
Cannot swim.
+1000 ADS time
We forgot about the most cursed and insidious gun. One dreaded from our childhoods and often used by narcissistic weirdos when you least expect it, even though they look stupid using it. The dreaded finger gun! 😂
Yeah but it never needed reloading or cooling down pew pew 💨, 👈
The narrator of the Liberator chapter sounds like Diego Klatterhoff, Special Agent Donald Ressler from "The Black List"
The Italians preferred to conquer their enemies with wine and hospitality.
Ever been to Italy? Not the most hospitable place.
In the country areas where tourists never go, sure fairly welcoming. In even the 3⁰ tier tourist areas, they act like you are just another POS on holiday.
If you want a similar atmosphere, but with actual welcoming people try Croatia. Amazing country.
“the stranger had the big iron on his hip”
Atleast they are better than Fo4 guns, both 3 and NV had good looking guns but 4 takes them and tosses the logic,you can't compare fo3's Assult Rifle or NV's Service Rifle with fo4 "Assult Rifle" (even though it was ment to initially be a LMG,the silencer says it also I ask for forgiveness for my poor use of the english lenguage)
Ikr
1:01 The colt model is like the old version of the outlaw...
Is it just me or does anyone else think that some of the latest Simple history videos are compilations of their older videos? Maybe it is good that newer subscribers can see the older videos and that new projects take so much time that filler videos are needed.
Edit: Well, most of their videos are still new with new topics but there are a few of the compilation videos.
I came across the colt revolver rifle at a antique gun store.
Keep up the good work simple history,
I love the 1855 and it would have been so easy to fix if they just put a guard on the back of the cylinder like revolvers from that time and on
the thumbnail might as well be a screenshot of rexmeck's weapon pack in bonelab
Sending this to Brandon Herrera
“Man, I shot the heck out of that guy huh? I feel sick.” Ellie
Another consideration with revolver rifles in general: even if they don't suffer from cookoff, the cylinder gap makes it hazardous to shoulder it the way you'd normally shoulder a rifle, as there's the risk that the gases escaping from between the cylinder and the barrel will be perfectly positioned to go right into your face. There are modern ones that just add some metal to deflect the gases away from the user, in the vein of ejection port deflectors used to keep spent cases from hitting a left-handed user on a modern autoloading rifle.
Hypothetically you could also make the revolver push the cylinder forward when it's brought into battery and seal the gap, like the Nagant revolver famously does. I don't know if any revolver rifles go that route though.
Look up the Pieper revolver carbine. It's exactly what you describe - a scaled up Nagant put into a rifle stock, gas seal and all.
@@acidwizzardbastard Oooh, nice.
Yeah, a lot of the issues with safety were possible to mitigate or design around, but these also came out in 1855, only 5 years before the Spencer repeating rifle, and it was fairly obvious that a revolver design was not the way to go in the long term.
You can probably use all these guns in the Battlfield games and they probably are incredible 🤣
One gun in the thumbnail is a Brandon Herrera cursed gun image
Brandon Herrera's going to have a good time with this one
Too much hate on the Mars-Webley, it was basically just the O.G. Desert Eagle, and only holding the same amount of ammo as a revolver doesn't matter because reloads are still way faster because of the mag
This guy teaches me more than school does…
Hard to believe public schools dont teach guns lol
7:27 the gyrojet wasn't supposed to be fitted into the military. It was only made because they didn't know if gunpowder worked in zero gravity
They called the chauchat “worse than useless” during the war lol
Animating the breech/ barrel reciprocating on the Mars is a stroke of genius?