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17 years Canadian infantry. Never once saw a Lee Enfield. Not sure where you got the idea that it was still in use, even for ceremonial purposes. It isn't.
@@popzom4440 That literally depends on the cartridge/caliber of the ammo and what it's being fired from. Barrel lengths, mag capacity, how the barrel devices help with recoil, etc. Some militaries did not have the American Money or German Engineering behind it to make iconic weapons, or high-performing ones. Plus modern designs and adjustments have absolutely increased lethality in general. Sure a 9mm Luger and a Beretta M9 are ~1300 ft/s out the muzzle, but have you SHOT a Luger? The sights are not even close to what an M9 are, and that alone can make a huge difference. Add in the M9's double ammo capacity, more ergonomic design, faster reloading, and don't get me started on the slides. Yes, both shoot 9mm. Yes, that 9mm is gonna kill you the same way from either gun. However one gun is gonna be way easier to shoot someone accurately, and aiming at targets consistently. OP is right still, guns being used by trained individuals will be deadly no matter what. Saying "old guns are deadlier" ignores what helps make a gun more lethal: the ease of use from the person using it. I liked shooting a Hi-Power, but my god give me a M9 between the two if my life is going to be on the line.
The M2 Browning .50 cal will probably outlive us all. It's kinda hard to replace a .50 BMG heavy machine gun that isn't just the "Ma Duece" that looks different but functions the same. It's already 100 years old, and most likely will live 100 years more. That's the legacy the HMG has, and is still carrying to this day.
I can imagine the developers at Hi-Point going “how can we piss off a dead man?” And creating their 9mm, then laughing until they cried. Yes, I know Hi-Point 9s work as well as the expensive brands if proper care and maintenance is used. I just like making the jokes.
In Warhammer 40,000, the M2 is still in active service. 38 thousand years in the future they probably think M2 stands for which millennium it was designed in, and they would be accidentally correct. Look at most models of the "heavy stubber" it's literally just an M2.
My husband told me while his service with the SANDF in South Africa they ran into insurgents and criminals who had STG-44 even took a picture of his Lieutenant holding a captured one. My husband’s bring back was a weird looking Cetme with an Ak style rear sight
@@ThePineappleKnight932 It’s a wonderful rifle quite heavy for me though the Hk91 and my husband’s most recent acquisition the Century Arms C308 seem quite similar to exactly like this Cetme variant. One his other bring backs was Carl Gustav M/45 SMG which everytime he takes it to his favorite gun store gathers attention of the Vietnam veterans. His Carl Gustav is painted Green and yellow and taken from a insurgent in Namibia. I always found interest in my husband’s experiences and glad he survived.
@@MayumiC-chan9377 yeah the old cetmes were descendents of the STG45. The design was sold to Heckler and Koch, and they got the army to adopt it as the G3 if I'm remembering correctly
The Maxim is the oldest gun used by a military force, and the first automatic machine gun, dating back to 1884, even older than the Mosin Nagant from 1891
@@tiesvdboogaard5065it wasn't really used that much during WW2 is probably why. I feel like it should've been mentioned because it has been used since it's invention, but still
I mean if we wanna be technical about it it’s a variant of the Maxim from 1910 thats still in service, not the original, but yeah, maxims are still in service
You forgot some of the oldest weapons still in use. The Maxim machine gun and the Mosin-Nagants. Multiple nations still use them, and they are quite a bit older than most of the ones mentioned.
Another worthy mention is the bofors 40mm, a popular anti-aircraft gun used by both sides in WW2. It was fitted on ships, towed trailers and self-propelled AA, still in use today although with many upgrades made over the years, even rebuilt for anti-tank purposes
L60 used in ww2 diffrent from current L70. But maybe somewhere country still use it in their ship or AA system. USA retired L60 in 2021-2022 when Spooky AC130 retired Ukraine stilk use it get from denmark, dont know are Swedes or any other maunfacturer still produce the ammo. The old gun can work as long as the ammo manufactured
Inspiration as in concept, not operating system. Plus the soviet's used the kalash as a submachinegun in doctrine, while the Germans used the stg as a semi auto rifle with automatic capabilities
looks nothing like a garand internally, lmfao...the garand is not automatic"... the ak looks and functions like an stg 44 and NOTHING like the garand lmfao how does a semi auto rifle inspire a full auto gun that looks like the other full auto gun the STG44....the guy said it right..they only said that crap cause it was used by their greatest enemy
@@chargedx5768 M1 Garand and AK both have the same operating principle: gas-operated rotating bolt. They are mechanically very similar. And there were prototypes of full auto M1's too. STG44 uses different principle, gas-operated tilting bold. STG and AK looks similar but are two totally different guns mechanically
Fun fact about the MG3. Some of them actually used MG42 receivers and if you know where to look you can find waffenamts on them. They are however very hard to see cause the West German Army made it a habit to get rid of anything having to do with the pervious gov't shall we say. To find them you got to totally dismantle it an armory level though.
@Based_Gigachad_001 ... As opposed to admitting they took inspiration from the main service rifle of their greatest adversary, especially when they could instead claim Kalashnikov took inspiration from the *Russian designed* Fedorov Avtomat, AVS-36, or SKS?
My Lee Enfield from 1916 still shoots straight as an arrow, the only issue I have is finding ammo for it. These guns are still out here looking for the enemy
to respond to this reply and commenter before I continue I tried to pull knowledge from kalashnikov's sponsered museum but all I could find were opening hours and location according to kalishnikov group (the current historian and manufacturers of the ak framework within russia) in their sponsored historical film Kalishnikov about the making of the ak47 kalishnikov was inspired to make an automatic rifle for the soviet army after watching his commanders PPSH jam in a gunfight which got him killed and kalishnikov injured he started sketching in the hospital and to quote wikipedia "I was in the hospital, and a soldier in the bed beside me asked: 'Why do our soldiers have only one rifle for two or three of our men when the Germans have automatics?' So I designed one. he started in 1942 with a submachinegun, in 1943 he had a light machinegun and in early 1944 he was given a new smaller arms cartridge source copied from wikipedia (Kalashnikov was given some 7.62×39mm M43 cartridges and informed that other designers were working on weapons for this new Soviet small-arms cartridge) and to again quote wikipedia (In 1944, he entered a design competition with this new 7.62×39mm, semi-automatic, gas-operated, long-stroke piston carbine, strongly influenced by the American M1 Garand) and to @ExtantPerson the m1 garand was *not* an assault rifle it was a battle rifle/automatic rifle and used much larger cartridges then assault rifles and used a clip instead of a magazine but did have a very similar reciever (trigger mechanism) including a rotating breechblock and even used a similar piston design just below the barrel instead of ontop he lost the 1944 design competition and to quote once again wikipedia (In 1946, a new design competition was initiated to develop a new rifle.[30] Kalashnikov submitted a gas-operated rifle with a short-stroke gas piston above the barrel, a breechblock mechanism similar to his 1944 carbine, and a curved 30-round magazine) seperate quoting of wiki (This design had many similarities to the StG 44.[33] In late 1946, as the rifles were being tested, one of Kalashnikov's assistants, Aleksandr Zaitsev, suggested a major redesign to improve reliability) and for the last time (In November 1947, the new prototypes (AK-47s) were completed. The rifle used a long-stroke gas piston above the barrel. The upper and lower receivers were combined into a single receiver. The selector and safety were combined into a single control lever/dust cover on the right side of the rifle. And, the bolt handle was simply attached to the bolt carrier. This simplified the design and production of the rifle.) to put it blunt (since I know people nowadays hate reading things) the rifle evolved heavily over several years and although the original rendition of it wasn't related at all to the stg (the stg hadn't even been *made* yet in 1942) as it's design was giving the new small arms cartridge in 1944 it took heavy inspiration from the m1 garand with a long gas piston and rotating breechblock it lost the design competition and came out with a 1946 design that took a lot of inspiration from the stg before a complete redesign in 1947 to make it more reliable and combing aspects of all the paragraph above is a practical tldr for readers I hope you enjoyed and if you read the whole thing I truly thank you for your patience and also sorry for copying so much from wikipedia they said it better than I ever could hope you enjoyed :)
I was soldier in Royal Thai Army. We still use M16 from GI in ‘Nam. We still use Mosin Nagant as a bayonet training. We still use Colt1911 from WWII. We still use WWII Training Books from Germany.
I enlisted in the army in 1988, got stationed at fort Carson in 1989 on M60A3 tanks. We were issued .45cal M1911 pistols as personal weapons but the tank was assigned an M3 grease gun. My reaction when I first had to go to the shooting range was “holy crap this is old!” But omg was it fun to shoot. I later switched jobs to cavalry scout and used the M2 machine gun till I retired. My favorite weapon and it was absolutely amazing! Great video, very nostalgic for me
Everybody loved the M1911 pistol. Ever since the Moro Rebellion in the Philippines, because the 38 caliber pistol or revolver don't have the power or the firepower to kill or take out Moro Rebels and that the M1911 was born.
I always thought the story 44 only had about 100,000 made. Didn't realize it was nearly 500,000 produced. But it is interesting so many are used still.
To continue with the 1911, a company named Staccato created a modernized version called the 2011. It is slowly becoming very popular with police officers in the US. Also, other companies such as Tisas, Springfield Armory, and Stealth Arms make their own version of a modernized 1911. Thus carrying on the legacy of John Moses Browning, for another 100 years.
Fun fact: stg-44 was not the father of the AK-47. It was actually the M1 Garand, as they both use long-stroke piston system. Stg44 was more of a precursor to what you would find more on G3-s.
There are a lot of factors to consider before a gun can be declared obsolete, range, accuracy, price, maintenance, reliability, reload speed, power. If a gun can still do it’s job today then the only thing to consider is, what is better? And is it worth it?
Years ago, an Army buddy of mine, told me that his unit was conducting an equipment layout for their unit, and a .50 cal they had? Had a receiver stamped in 1943.
7:55 India phased out most of the original .303 SMLEs by the 80s and replaced them with the locally produced variant called Ishapore 2A1 that fires 7.62 rounds.
My most sincere congratulations Simple History, well done. No matter how many technological advancements take place in the world of warfare, some weapons will always find a way to be used by modern armed forces like the STG44, the Colt M1911, the M2 Browning and many many others. These guns are still used despite being mostly retired or put in storage.
Fun fact Canada retired the Lee enfield from active military service in 2023. It was used by patrols in the arctic because of its reliability. R. I.P. A military legend.🫡🇨🇦
ar 15 is more similar to stg (buffer tube ,trigger mechanism) than akm( long stroke piston(first variants of kalashnikovs rifle had short stroke piston)), bolt locking is like on simonovs semi auto AT rifle that came some 5-6 years prior to stg , AKM under hood is more like M1 garand upside down
the south Korean Reserve Forces also used the M1919a6 until 2009, and the M1 Carbine and Garand until 2013. Currently, they have all been replaced by M16 or M16a1,K2, M60VN,M1911 and Korean products.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. MP-40s and K98 still pop up in Africa and Ukraine to this day as well. I guess if they talked about all the WWII guns still in use they would have a run time of over an hour.
Dont forget the grand daddy of all fully automatic machine guns, the Maxim machine gun So reliable that is can fire over 1 million rounds without breaking as long as you got the water, ammo and barrels for it
The Madsen is pretty surprisingly light for its age and caliber. It's not something you're gonna hold up and aim for long accurate bursts, but even an average person can definitely carry it alone while having enough strength left for other things too. Compared to the 1899 Krag-Jørgensen it served alongside, it's extremely light when you look at it in terms of the weight to firepower ratio.
It was the No.4 Lee-Enfield, not the SMLE, and they are replacing them with modern Finnish Bolt guns. So there should be some more surplus coming in the market soon!
@@spudgunn8695 that would be cool if the reds up north would actually sell them instead of what they will actually do which is destroy them, Because ya know their dictator doesn’t like freedom
Belgian army here: When i was in Afghanistan in 2013, US and German troops could not believe I had a 9mm Hi-Power 1911 built in 1953 (yes built, not modelled) which worked perfectly. We got a 5.7 now, but I still miss the 9mm.
FYI: the term "Assault Rifle" is a very recent/modern term, before that any weapon that fires in automatic was called the Gatling, Repeater, or Machine Gun. I have not heard any WW2, Korean, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Afghan Vets call it an assault rifle. I have not heard the term assault rifle till 2015. Now the term "Assault Weapons" has been around since the 80's, as I remember.
During the July 1st (Canada Day) gun salute in downtown Toronto, the Canadian military used the C3 howitzer for the gun salute. The C3 is a Candian variant of the M101. The C3 is used by reservists and for ceremonial duties. After the gun salute, I got to get a close-up of the guns used and was even allowed to cycle the breech and pull the cord that fires the gun (with nothing loaded, obviously). I was also able to peer into the sights. Overall, it was an awesome experience, would recommend it if you are a gun fan. Whould love to do it again next year.
Active German Soldier here, not so long ago we did some field training with the MG3 and at the end of the Day we cleaned the Guns and i noticed that on the "Gehäuse" there was a little Eagle(you know which one) stamp on it but it was kinda stamped over with its "building year" 1972.. in fact 1972 was not the building year of this MG3 but the year they turned that MG42 into a MG3.
Have you heard the name Darra Adamkhel? Where local Gunsmiths produce one of the best weapons. Give them a weapon and they will produce thousands of copies of it.
People prefer the name "Khyber Pass" on the West. Those gunsmiths are somewhat famous. Unfortunately, politics prevent them to be better known. How could society operate if everyone knew that there's a place where common people without useless majors make guns and everyone lives peacefully, respects their neighbors, have a mature relation with God, honors their families and and that their sons learn a profession so that they can live honestly? This is like the West was a hundred years ago...
As Albert Einstein said: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." This is what he mean't ww1 and ww2 guns are those sticks and stones for modern warfare of ww3 and ww4.
I believe the MG3 also has a significantly slower fire rate than the MG42, I don’t know why but I could speculate that it’s both for ammo conservation and the fact that the MG42 couldn’t stay on target at most ranges after about 7 rounds, it’s why in D-day scenes you’d mostly hear short bursts from the MG42s in the bunkers.
As a honorable mention (as those are seemingly withdrawn from the service around the world) I would suggest Bren light machine gun. It was in service in UK till 1990's, just like M3 Grease Gun in US Army.
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's broke. In fact, they're probably built better back then like pretty much everything is. "They don't make things like they used to"
I think you missed a few things about the M101 105mm howitzer! The 105mm M101 is used in Korea's truck-type self-propelled howitzer, the Pungik(Nickname for K105A1, named after Lieutenant Colonel Kim Pung-ik, who destroyed the track of a North Korean T-34-85 through direct fire from an M101 during the Korean War, but was killed in a follow-up attack by a T-34.) self-propelled howitzer, and along with the new 105mm KH178, it is used as one of the main artillery firepower of artillery regiments in infantry and mechanized divisions of the Korean Army..
Surprisingly the M3 Grease Guns were still used by the Philippine Marine Corps, to this day even though they have access to MP5s or any SMGs for Armored vehicle crews.
MG 42 was also used in Yugoslav army as well after WWII. The nickname of MG 42 in Balkan peninsula was Šarac. Similar to Uzi submachinegun is a submachinegun called Scorpion. It still in production, and it's made in city Kragujevac (now Serbia). Since I mentioned city of Kragujevac, I have to ask some of you this question: How many of you have heard the first shooting down of an airplane from the ground? If you don't know I'll tell you. It occurred in Serbia during the WWI. In 1915 when Germany invaded Serbia, they sent airplanes to bomb city of Kragujevac. The Serbian army tried desperately to shoot down the enemy airplane. Then one soldier decided to use a cannon to shoot down the airplane. The soldier who did that was Radoje Ljutovac. He aimed the cannon towards airplane, and when airplane was in site, he fired a cannon, and the plane was hit. Airplane fell down a couple of kilometers from Kragujevac. Then Radoje Ljutovac mount a horse and went to place where plane crashed. The people were already gathered to see what's going on. And when Radoje Ljutovac saw the dead pilots, he saluted them. Believe it or not, I even heard once that there are some WWI Balkan artilleries in some museums in South America as well.
One you missed - The Browning/FN Hi-Power (which also goes by many names and variations) remains in use, and in some places under domestic production, across the world, including in Canada (where it was produced domestically by the John Inglis Co.) where it is only now being phased out for the SIG Sauer P320 (designated C22). In addition, FN's American branch has introduced a modern version, called the High Power.
A slight correction. The first mass-produced assault rifle wasn't the STG 44. It was actually the Browning Automatic Rifle. Entered service at the tail end of WW1.
there's a reason why the BAR was not a assault rifle because it's was too heavy and did not have enough ammo to assault positions in the battlefield thus it was labelled as a light machine gun
the m2 and the mg42 (which is literally just the m3) were just that far ahead of its time, a time when a automatic car transmission was unheard of and color tvs werent sold for another three decades, still used in the modern day f35s and drone's. mind you, these were basically invented in a time when planes were made of canvas, and now they metal death wedges.
The Philippine Navy and Marine Corps initially have little to no budget to buy modern 9mm SMG. However, the Uzis, MP5, UMP are prevalent here in the early 2000's. The AFP just didn't see much need to procure SMGs since the CAR 15s can do the job for CQB. The M3 grease Gun was pressed into service because it is numerous and .45ACP is a common cartridge in the Philippines. However, those times are over. We are procuring Czech Evo 3A1 SMGs and 9mm MTAR 21 SMGs.
So interesting! As a former pvt in an italian mechanized regiment 🔰 at Yugoslavian border in 1985/86 we had the Beretta modified Garand, the light auto gun derived from the Garand, the FAL BM59, the 1919 Browning heavy machine gun and the also Beretta modified MG42 machine gun, that was also used by Yugoslavian army as a Zastava clone!😄 Those were the days, we are a little nostalgic of them, mainly because we were young, I suppose....😄
Brooooo, the 1st gun mentioned is legit my favorite to use when playing The Final Reich zombies map on CoD:WWII! With the STG-44 and the M1911 u can beat that map solo.
It's interesting that .45 ACP was already such a staple by WWI, because .32 ACP was very frequently used until not even that long ago. My grandfather was a paratrooper/glider infantry in WWII, 82nd Airborne. One of two US liberating units who actually liberated concentration camps, and all he brought back besides his medals was an SS officer's sidearm and matching, serial numbered holster. It was a Belgian make and the naz!s had commandeered the arms and factory. They added their own stamps and serials, little swastikas being held by an eagle most memorably. Some of the most fascinating develoents in arms were the curved barreled rifles and machine guns, so they could fire from behind armor, out of holes and over walls. Bullets do actually travel and exit through dramatically curved barrels. I feel like I remember Demolition Ranch nearly making a balloon animal of a barrel, and it didn't fail.
@@yodaslovetoy Im pretty sure he's talking about the 2003 Iraq War. I don't think there's anything else called the Iraq War. There's the Persian Gulf War, Iran-Iraq more and more (I think)
I've fired the Grease gun on multiple occasions and despite being in 45. It is a very controllable smg. I actually shot it back to back once with an MP40 and Sten gun and although the latter 2 were more controllable it wasn't by a huge margin.
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17 years Canadian infantry. Never once saw a Lee Enfield. Not sure where you got the idea that it was still in use, even for ceremonial purposes. It isn't.
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U didn't mention Pakistan army uses and manufacture MG42 to this day. Its actually one of the most used heavy machine gun in pak army .
If it can shoot straight and you can hit the target, it's good
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Words to live by 🫡
a good phrase along with “if it isn’t broken, dont fix it”
*proceeds to use air gun in war
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If a gun that was made in 1943, is well maintained, has ammo, and a trained person wielding it, then it is as deadly as a firearm made in 2023.
There's still Maxim guns and Dektaryevs fielded in Ukraine. I even saw a video with one soldier sporting an MP-40.
Older guns are deadlier
My pre-war Walther PPK works just fine
@@popzom4440 That literally depends on the cartridge/caliber of the ammo and what it's being fired from. Barrel lengths, mag capacity, how the barrel devices help with recoil, etc. Some militaries did not have the American Money or German Engineering behind it to make iconic weapons, or high-performing ones. Plus modern designs and adjustments have absolutely increased lethality in general.
Sure a 9mm Luger and a Beretta M9 are ~1300 ft/s out the muzzle, but have you SHOT a Luger? The sights are not even close to what an M9 are, and that alone can make a huge difference. Add in the M9's double ammo capacity, more ergonomic design, faster reloading, and don't get me started on the slides. Yes, both shoot 9mm. Yes, that 9mm is gonna kill you the same way from either gun. However one gun is gonna be way easier to shoot someone accurately, and aiming at targets consistently.
OP is right still, guns being used by trained individuals will be deadly no matter what. Saying "old guns are deadlier" ignores what helps make a gun more lethal: the ease of use from the person using it. I liked shooting a Hi-Power, but my god give me a M9 between the two if my life is going to be on the line.
@@popzom4440you can keep your 1911. I'll take my stacatto 2011 with 26 round magazine, laser light combo, and red dot.
The M2 Browning .50 cal will probably outlive us all. It's kinda hard to replace a .50 BMG heavy machine gun that isn't just the "Ma Duece" that looks different but functions the same.
It's already 100 years old, and most likely will live 100 years more. That's the legacy the HMG has, and is still carrying to this day.
Belgium tried it with a 0.60 cal, but they made the P90 instead.
@@WolfeSaberan intermediate cartridge of a intermediate cartridge
@@MagnumLoadedTractor The P90?
@@WolfeSaber The P90 is such a beautiful, elegant, and compact rifle. ❤
@@maybehuman4 It's an SMG, not a rifle.
John Browning. The patron saint of firearms
What is Eugene stoner tho
@@MagnumLoadedTractor Something not as good as Browning.
The only Mormon canonized by the Catholic Church.
@@GldnClaw So, the Catholic Church is just full of hate and jealousy?
I can imagine the developers at Hi-Point going “how can we piss off a dead man?” And creating their 9mm, then laughing until they cried.
Yes, I know Hi-Point 9s work as well as the expensive brands if proper care and maintenance is used. I just like making the jokes.
M2 will probably be on space ships 100 years from now
even in Gundam UC timeline that gun is still being used even on Mobile Suit such as the Jegan manhunting variant
@@RX-782Gundam Because the original franchise is made in 1979. Tomino doesnt had clever imagination to created creative blaster like in "Star Wars".
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened already.
In Warhammer 40,000, the M2 is still in active service.
38 thousand years in the future they probably think M2 stands for which millennium it was designed in, and they would be accidentally correct.
Look at most models of the "heavy stubber" it's literally just an M2.
@@TheSYLOH The thing really does get around.
My husband told me while his service with the SANDF in South Africa they ran into insurgents and criminals who had STG-44 even took a picture of his Lieutenant holding a captured one.
My husband’s bring back was a weird looking Cetme with an Ak style rear sight
Makes sense because the Nazis left rifles in Africa and they were captured by Arabs in the 60s and handed over and over
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That sounds like an early friggin model a/b! Doood that's the G3s father
@@ThePineappleKnight932 It’s a wonderful rifle quite heavy for me though the Hk91 and my husband’s most recent acquisition the Century Arms C308 seem quite similar to exactly like this Cetme variant.
One his other bring backs was Carl Gustav M/45 SMG which everytime he takes it to his favorite gun store gathers attention of the Vietnam veterans. His Carl Gustav is painted Green and yellow and taken from a insurgent in Namibia. I always found interest in my husband’s experiences and glad he survived.
@@MayumiC-chan9377 yeah the old cetmes were descendents of the STG45. The design was sold to Heckler and Koch, and they got the army to adopt it as the G3 if I'm remembering correctly
M2 Browning Is the only weapon created on max status that didn't need further upgrades.
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@@thecursed01 Besides the M1911. Everybody still loves the 50 cal heavy machine gun ever since it was created.
@@thecursed01Is the 1911 Browning made? Also, its caliber can be switched around, like 0.460 rounds.
Thompson SMG
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 Those were replaced by the M3 Grease Gun tho
All goes down to one principle: The human body never gets more resistant to bullets.
Not really actually
Bulletproof vests: am I a joke to you?
Not everyone issued Body armor. Some nation still use ALICE
@@Dantheman-b1m Well technicaly thats not the human body... if you implant kevelar under your skin... thats would be different.
@@DMlTREl Well, not exactly. I was a bit quick in making that comment, in hindsight. But it still is a really big factor.
You know what they say! "Old reliable!"
The Maxim is the oldest gun used by a military force, and the first automatic machine gun, dating back to 1884, even older than the Mosin Nagant from 1891
But those guns are effective
@@egertroos-qh7hw they are, I’m not saying they aren’t
Wy wasnt it in the video
@@tiesvdboogaard5065it wasn't really used that much during WW2 is probably why. I feel like it should've been mentioned because it has been used since it's invention, but still
I mean if we wanna be technical about it it’s a variant of the Maxim from 1910 thats still in service, not the original, but yeah, maxims are still in service
You forgot some of the oldest weapons still in use. The Maxim machine gun and the Mosin-Nagants. Multiple nations still use them, and they are quite a bit older than most of the ones mentioned.
Another worthy mention is the bofors 40mm, a popular anti-aircraft gun used by both sides in WW2. It was fitted on ships, towed trailers and self-propelled AA, still in use today although with many upgrades made over the years, even rebuilt for anti-tank purposes
L60 used in ww2 diffrent from current L70. But maybe somewhere country still use it in their ship or AA system. USA retired L60 in 2021-2022 when Spooky AC130 retired
Ukraine stilk use it get from denmark, dont know are Swedes or any other maunfacturer still produce the ammo. The old gun can work as long as the ammo manufactured
Dad said they had a Grease Gun in their armory, this was 1970 Vietnam...
grease gun was used in ww2
@@JoshuaCave-xc5mzand Vietnam
@@JoshuaCave-xc5mzIt was also used in Korea and Vietnam and elsewhere in the later years.
My dad trained on one in the early 1960s
M3 Grease guns were used up to yhe 1991 Persian Gulf War, and was used a PDW by tankers
Actually, the M1 Garand was the inspiration for the AK. AK may look externally more like the STG but internally it is a lot like the M1 grand.
The video acknowledged this in a sense because Kalashnikov is seen with an Stg-44, M1 Garand, and an SVT-40 when making the AK-47
The STG inspired this French assault rifle in 1949, which lead to the CETME and the G3
Inspiration as in concept, not operating system. Plus the soviet's used the kalash as a submachinegun in doctrine, while the Germans used the stg as a semi auto rifle with automatic capabilities
looks nothing like a garand internally, lmfao...the garand is not automatic"... the ak looks and functions like an stg 44 and NOTHING like the garand lmfao how does a semi auto rifle inspire a full auto gun that looks like the other full auto gun the STG44....the guy said it right..they only said that crap cause it was used by their greatest enemy
@@chargedx5768 M1 Garand and AK both have the same operating principle: gas-operated rotating bolt. They are mechanically very similar. And there were prototypes of full auto M1's too.
STG44 uses different principle, gas-operated tilting bold.
STG and AK looks similar but are two totally different guns mechanically
Fun fact about the MG3. Some of them actually used MG42 receivers and if you know where to look you can find waffenamts on them. They are however very hard to see cause the West German Army made it a habit to get rid of anything having to do with the pervious gov't shall we say. To find them you got to totally dismantle it an armory level though.
Mikhail kalashnikov said in his own memoirs that he drew inspiration from the m1 garand, the stg44 had nothing to do with it.
AK-47 ≈ STG44
@@aleksandarvil5718no, the desing is completeley diffrent, the only simelarety is the intermedeate cartrige and the originel intend as submachinegun
@@aleksandarvil5718 Lmao no. The Ak platform is basically an upside down garand. It shares much more functionally with the garand.
@Based_Gigachad_001 As stated, the AK shares a lot with the garand, nearly nothing with the STG.
@Based_Gigachad_001 ... As opposed to admitting they took inspiration from the main service rifle of their greatest adversary, especially when they could instead claim Kalashnikov took inspiration from the *Russian designed* Fedorov Avtomat, AVS-36, or SKS?
My Lee Enfield from 1916 still shoots straight as an arrow, the only issue I have is finding ammo for it. These guns are still out here looking for the enemy
A gun truly ahead of its time 🇬🇧
I'm glad to listen about the Madsens in use here in Brazil. Happy 4th of July, everyone.
according to mikhail kalashnikov, the ak was based more on the m1 garand than the stg but it's still the first assault rifle
STG44 was the first assault rifle, I thought?
The ak took inspiration from the design of the STG but other than that they function entirely differently
to respond to this reply and commenter
before I continue I tried to pull knowledge from kalashnikov's sponsered museum but all I could find were opening hours and location
according to kalishnikov group (the current historian and manufacturers of the ak framework within russia) in their sponsored historical film Kalishnikov about the making of the ak47
kalishnikov was inspired to make an automatic rifle for the soviet army after watching his commanders PPSH jam in a gunfight which got him killed and kalishnikov injured
he started sketching in the hospital and to quote wikipedia
"I was in the hospital, and a soldier in the bed beside me asked: 'Why do our soldiers have only one rifle for two or three of our men when the Germans have automatics?' So I designed one.
he started in 1942 with a submachinegun, in 1943 he had a light machinegun and in early 1944 he was given a new smaller arms cartridge
source copied from wikipedia (Kalashnikov was given some 7.62×39mm M43 cartridges and informed that other designers were working on weapons for this new Soviet small-arms cartridge)
and to again quote wikipedia
(In 1944, he entered a design competition with this new 7.62×39mm, semi-automatic, gas-operated, long-stroke piston carbine, strongly influenced by the American M1 Garand)
and to @ExtantPerson the m1 garand was *not* an assault rifle it was a battle rifle/automatic rifle and used much larger cartridges then assault rifles and used a clip instead of a magazine but did have a very similar reciever (trigger mechanism) including a rotating breechblock and even used a similar piston design just below the barrel instead of ontop
he lost the 1944 design competition and to quote once again wikipedia
(In 1946, a new design competition was initiated to develop a new rifle.[30] Kalashnikov submitted a gas-operated rifle with a short-stroke gas piston above the barrel, a breechblock mechanism similar to his 1944 carbine, and a curved 30-round magazine)
seperate quoting of wiki (This design had many similarities to the StG 44.[33] In late 1946, as the rifles were being tested, one of Kalashnikov's assistants, Aleksandr Zaitsev, suggested a major redesign to improve reliability)
and for the last time
(In November 1947, the new prototypes (AK-47s) were completed. The rifle used a long-stroke gas piston above the barrel. The upper and lower receivers were combined into a single receiver. The selector and safety were combined into a single control lever/dust cover on the right side of the rifle. And, the bolt handle was simply attached to the bolt carrier. This simplified the design and production of the rifle.)
to put it blunt (since I know people nowadays hate reading things)
the rifle evolved heavily over several years and although the original rendition of it wasn't related at all to the stg (the stg hadn't even been *made* yet in 1942)
as it's design was giving the new small arms cartridge in 1944 it took heavy inspiration from the m1 garand with a long gas piston and rotating breechblock
it lost the design competition and came out with a 1946 design that took a lot of inspiration from the stg before a complete redesign in 1947 to make it more reliable and combing aspects of all
the paragraph above is a practical tldr for readers
I hope you enjoyed and if you read the whole thing I truly thank you for your patience
and also sorry for copying so much from wikipedia they said it better than I ever could
hope you enjoyed :)
@Neu_Hooligan I did not see that in my research thank you for pointing it out
@@ExtantPerson Fedorov automat is a joke to you?
if a weapon can still fight, it will fight once more
Many weapons from the 80 and 100 years was made very well.
Fellow Madness guy speaking works of wisdom
Tbh I still can’t believe a 1911 was designed in … well you get the idea. It always seems so modern to me… even decades after I first held one
Simplicity is timeless
2:03 that german soilder whistling like nothing happened 😂
How could he of missed? Lol
@@MichaelKemner-wj9nc He didn't. There was just more of them than he had bullets.
😂😂😂
I was soldier in Royal Thai Army.
We still use M16 from GI in ‘Nam.
We still use Mosin Nagant as a bayonet training.
We still use Colt1911 from WWII.
We still use WWII Training Books from Germany.
3:31 bro is cooking🔥🔥
My parents love the M1911 pistol. They had trained with it when they were in the Air Force and they own a .22LR version of it for self-defense.
I enlisted in the army in 1988, got stationed at fort Carson in 1989 on M60A3 tanks. We were issued .45cal M1911 pistols as personal weapons but the tank was assigned an M3 grease gun. My reaction when I first had to go to the shooting range was “holy crap this is old!” But omg was it fun to shoot. I later switched jobs to cavalry scout and used the M2 machine gun till I retired. My favorite weapon and it was absolutely amazing! Great video, very nostalgic for me
In Poland during 2014 I trained on the D44. Loudest thing I ever witnessed
5:05 bro ran at the speed of light
😂😂😂
Everybody loved the M1911 pistol. Ever since the Moro Rebellion in the Philippines, because the 38 caliber pistol or revolver don't have the power or the firepower to kill or take out Moro Rebels and that the M1911 was born.
The 1911 can be switched for a 0.460 caliber.
Actually the C96 Mauser is the reason why the M1911 was made
The M2 is the best, most resilient, machine gun I have ever used. Love that thing.
I always thought the story 44 only had about 100,000 made. Didn't realize it was nearly 500,000 produced. But it is interesting so many are used still.
“A bullet can’t stop the bull moose!” Theodore Roosevelt
TR will give WC the full deuce
You're right; 40 can.
700 .50 bmg rounds per minute can
To continue with the 1911, a company named Staccato created a modernized version called the 2011. It is slowly becoming very popular with police officers in the US. Also, other companies such as Tisas, Springfield Armory, and Stealth Arms make their own version of a modernized 1911. Thus carrying on the legacy of John Moses Browning, for another 100 years.
Retrofitting and modernising historical classics is a niche that’s hella underrated
Springfield Army makes a reproduction of WWII government issued 1911s. It’s a dream to shoot!
Grease guns are no longer in service in the Philippine Navy and Marine Corps, they are currently using MP5 variants.
The Browning HMG is a base model for the modern Browning H2B. Just like how the M1 Abrams tank is the base model for the M1A3 Abrams SepV3
Sometimes you just have to say "Age? Who gives a smeg! If it still fires, it works."
Clean it up, replace broken parts, and watch it run lol
Clean it up, replace broken parts, and watch it run lol
@@stephweasenforth7891 You commented the same thing twice as a reply to this comment
@@TylerBoryla oops
@@TylerBorylaIt’s a youtube bug
Fun fact: stg-44 was not the father of the AK-47. It was actually the M1 Garand, as they both use long-stroke piston system. Stg44 was more of a precursor to what you would find more on G3-s.
BULLSHIT the cpy the STG44
@@BWCBWC-hc5yq Those are definitely letters, that's for sure.
There are a lot of factors to consider before a gun can be declared obsolete, range, accuracy, price, maintenance, reliability, reload speed, power. If a gun can still do it’s job today then the only thing to consider is, what is better? And is it worth it?
Fun fact: by replacing the spring and bolts it was possible to bring the MG42’S fire rate up to 1800 rpm
Years ago, an Army buddy of mine, told me that his unit was conducting an equipment layout for their unit, and a .50 cal they had? Had a receiver stamped in 1943.
7:55 India phased out most of the original .303 SMLEs by the 80s and replaced them with the locally produced variant called Ishapore 2A1 that fires 7.62 rounds.
My most sincere congratulations Simple History, well done. No matter how many technological advancements take place in the world of warfare, some weapons will always find a way to be used by modern armed forces like the STG44, the Colt M1911, the M2 Browning and many many others. These guns are still used despite being mostly retired or put in storage.
Fun fact Canada retired the Lee enfield from active military service in 2023. It was used by patrols in the arctic because of its reliability. R. I.P. A military legend.🫡🇨🇦
There’s more Lee Enfield rifles in Canada than there are trees lol.
@@thatradioboy And that’s the way we like it😎🇨🇦
It's an ok gun but the K98 is better
What did they replace it with for arctic patrols?
@@hammerslammer3006 I think the standard issue C7 A2 rifle.
I still think that the sherman could be useful on the battlefield today. There is literally a sherman for every single thing youd ever need
Luxemburg has more Shermans on WW2 memorials than modern heavy weapons in army stock.
0:24 the freaking og the goat!
Hail the stg-44!!!!!!!!
@@EBOWSAGOE-BIRIKORANG always!!
Russia's Kalashnikov is the definition of "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
the ak is not a copy of the stg, it's more similar to the garand if that is what you mean
@@mrfaen7661 Frankly it's both guns being the Stg and garand
ar 15 is more similar to stg (buffer tube ,trigger mechanism) than akm( long stroke piston(first variants of kalashnikovs rifle had short stroke piston)), bolt locking is like on simonovs semi auto AT rifle that came some 5-6 years prior to stg , AKM under hood is more like M1 garand upside down
Kalashnikov himself stated one of his main inspirations was the M1 Garand
That doesn't detract from him though.
The AK was built from the ground up and is still entirely different from anything else of the time.
the south Korean Reserve Forces also used the M1919a6 until 2009, and the M1 Carbine and Garand until 2013. Currently, they have all been replaced by M16 or M16a1,K2, M60VN,M1911 and Korean products.
Without medical aid, an arrow is just as deadly today as it was seventy-five thousand years ago.
How about Mosin? How about PPSH? How about DP-28?How about TT-33? And others WWII weapon used by Soviet Union what used today?
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. MP-40s and K98 still pop up in Africa and Ukraine to this day as well. I guess if they talked about all the WWII guns still in use they would have a run time of over an hour.
Quit calling it PPSH, it's PPSha (same sound as "shark" without "rk"). Be educated.
Dont forget the grand daddy of all fully automatic machine guns, the Maxim machine gun
So reliable that is can fire over 1 million rounds without breaking as long as you got the water, ammo and barrels for it
@@Suea-b8gIsn't it spelled PPSH-41/43? Or are you talking about pronunciation?
@@haywoodjablomie587 pronunciation)
"Pa-Pa-Sha"
Matter of fact some Abram tank crews used the grease gun up till around the 90s in very limited numbers
The Madsen is pretty surprisingly light for its age and caliber. It's not something you're gonna hold up and aim for long accurate bursts, but even an average person can definitely carry it alone while having enough strength left for other things too. Compared to the 1899 Krag-Jørgensen it served alongside, it's extremely light when you look at it in terms of the weight to firepower ratio.
8:02 Canadian Rangers, the main force of Canada’s remote Northern Territories, still utilize the SMLE as a standard weapon system
It was the No.4 Lee-Enfield, not the SMLE, and they are replacing them with modern Finnish Bolt guns. So there should be some more surplus coming in the market soon!
@@spudgunn8695 that would be cool if the reds up north would actually sell them instead of what they will actually do which is destroy them,
Because ya know their dictator doesn’t like freedom
It's being phased out, but at least there was some minor acknowledgement of that with the mention of it being in reserve and ceremonial roles.
@@TimberWolf99 they are still No.4 rifles and not SMLE's though!
@@spudgunn8695 True true, point still stands though.
In the future, when we have laser guns, photon rifle and other sci-fi weapons, there will always be a Browning .50 cal somewhere in that arsenal.
The Madsen gun seems very revolutionairy, a LMG created in 1901? What a steal.
Belgian army here: When i was in Afghanistan in 2013, US and German troops could not believe I had a 9mm Hi-Power 1911 built in 1953 (yes built, not modelled) which worked perfectly. We got a 5.7 now, but I still miss the 9mm.
I respect and fear the madsen that thing is a beast. The fact its still being used is a testament to its capability as a weapon.
FYI: the term "Assault Rifle" is a very recent/modern term, before that any weapon that fires in automatic was called the Gatling, Repeater, or Machine Gun. I have not heard any WW2, Korean, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Afghan Vets call it an assault rifle. I have not heard the term assault rifle till 2015. Now the term "Assault Weapons" has been around since the 80's, as I remember.
Great vid
During the July 1st (Canada Day) gun salute in downtown Toronto, the Canadian military used the C3 howitzer for the gun salute. The C3 is a Candian variant of the M101. The C3 is used by reservists and for ceremonial duties. After the gun salute, I got to get a close-up of the guns used and was even allowed to cycle the breech and pull the cord that fires the gun (with nothing loaded, obviously). I was also able to peer into the sights. Overall, it was an awesome experience, would recommend it if you are a gun fan. Whould love to do it again next year.
5:00 Regarding Hancock, his custom M2 was modified to be single-shot only, shooting from closed-bolt.
The Browning M2 modified with Russian DSHK
Active German Soldier here,
not so long ago we did some field training with the MG3 and at the end of the Day we cleaned the Guns and i noticed that on the "Gehäuse" there was a little Eagle(you know which one) stamp on it but it was kinda stamped over with its "building year" 1972..
in fact 1972 was not the building year of this MG3 but the year they turned that MG42 into a MG3.
Have you heard the name Darra Adamkhel?
Where local Gunsmiths produce one of the best weapons.
Give them a weapon and they will produce thousands of copies of it.
People prefer the name "Khyber Pass" on the West. Those gunsmiths are somewhat famous. Unfortunately, politics prevent them to be better known. How could society operate if everyone knew that there's a place where common people without useless majors make guns and everyone lives peacefully, respects their neighbors, have a mature relation with God, honors their families and and that their sons learn a profession so that they can live honestly? This is like the West was a hundred years ago...
The thumbnail is a masterpiece
9:13Hans you feel ok?
"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons." - Douglas MacArthur
Are swords firearms now? MacArthur must have had some ganja in that pipe, I bet.
Who says old weapons cant be efective and or beautyfull annymore 😅😂
the madsen is the most amazing to me. the madsen is such a old gun that Queen Victoria had only died a year before its production.
Lets not forget John Browning's big hole maker from the First World War (actually slightly before that).
Anything made by John Browning has a 95% chance to still be used 100 years later.
As Albert Einstein said:
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
This is what he mean't ww1 and ww2 guns are those sticks and stones for modern warfare of ww3 and ww4.
No, he meant WW3 would throw us back to the stone age
@@CMGThePersonexactly
I believe the MG3 also has a significantly slower fire rate than the MG42, I don’t know why but I could speculate that it’s both for ammo conservation and the fact that the MG42 couldn’t stay on target at most ranges after about 7 rounds, it’s why in D-day scenes you’d mostly hear short bursts from the MG42s in the bunkers.
great video
As a honorable mention (as those are seemingly withdrawn from the service around the world) I would suggest Bren light machine gun. It was in service in UK till 1990's, just like M3 Grease Gun in US Army.
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's broke. In fact, they're probably built better back then like pretty much everything is.
"They don't make things like they used to"
I think you missed a few things about the M101 105mm howitzer! The 105mm M101 is used in Korea's truck-type self-propelled howitzer, the Pungik(Nickname for K105A1, named after Lieutenant Colonel Kim Pung-ik, who destroyed the track of a North Korean T-34-85 through direct fire from an M101 during the Korean War, but was killed in a follow-up attack by a T-34.) self-propelled howitzer, and along with the new 105mm KH178, it is used as one of the main artillery firepower of artillery regiments in infantry and mechanized divisions of the Korean Army..
Surprisingly the M3 Grease Guns were still used by the Philippine Marine Corps, to this day even though they have access to MP5s or any SMGs for Armored vehicle crews.
Due to insufficient and stolen funds for the AFP
@@alvinc.pasoquin1920
Blame it to the Arroyo Administration why the AFP modernization was neglected.
Fun fact, kalashnikov said that the m1 garand was his main reference for the ak
The M60 is more closely related to the FG42, rather than the MG42
The M2 is so powerful it is a war crime to use it against infantry
MG 42 was also used in Yugoslav army as well after WWII. The nickname of MG 42 in Balkan peninsula was Šarac.
Similar to Uzi submachinegun is a submachinegun called Scorpion. It still in production, and it's made in city Kragujevac (now Serbia).
Since I mentioned city of Kragujevac, I have to ask some of you this question: How many of you have heard the first shooting down of an airplane from the ground?
If you don't know I'll tell you. It occurred in Serbia during the WWI. In 1915 when Germany invaded Serbia, they sent airplanes to bomb city of Kragujevac. The Serbian army tried desperately to shoot down the enemy airplane. Then one soldier decided to use a cannon to shoot down the airplane. The soldier who did that was Radoje Ljutovac. He aimed the cannon towards airplane, and when airplane was in site, he fired a cannon, and the plane was hit. Airplane fell down a couple of kilometers from Kragujevac. Then Radoje Ljutovac mount a horse and went to place where plane crashed. The people were already gathered to see what's going on. And when Radoje Ljutovac saw the dead pilots, he saluted them.
Believe it or not, I even heard once that there are some WWI Balkan artilleries in some museums in South America as well.
One you missed - The Browning/FN Hi-Power (which also goes by many names and variations) remains in use, and in some places under domestic production, across the world, including in Canada (where it was produced domestically by the John Inglis Co.) where it is only now being phased out for the SIG Sauer P320 (designated C22). In addition, FN's American branch has introduced a modern version, called the High Power.
Old but gold
Every gun John Browning created we still use, he is a "Firearms God".
A slight correction.
The first mass-produced assault rifle wasn't the STG 44. It was actually the Browning Automatic Rifle. Entered service at the tail end of WW1.
The BAR was an lmg, not an AR.
The BAR is actually the first assault rifle, not AR-15
there's a reason why the BAR was not a assault rifle because it's was too heavy and did not have enough ammo to assault positions in the battlefield thus it was labelled as a light machine gun
I think the BAR would lean into the category of battle rifles instead of assault rifles
"John Browning went to work" whenever you hear that, you know the man was cooking something DELICIOUS!
1:20 he designed the magazines
the m2 and the mg42 (which is literally just the m3) were just that far ahead of its time, a time when a automatic car transmission was unheard of and color tvs werent sold for another three decades, still used in the modern day f35s and drone's. mind you, these were basically invented in a time when planes were made of canvas, and now they metal death wedges.
Place your bets, how long will the swastika last before TH-cam throws a hissy fit about it
I got 3 hours.
The Philippine Navy and Marine Corps initially have little to no budget to buy modern 9mm SMG. However, the Uzis, MP5, UMP are prevalent here in the early 2000's. The AFP just didn't see much need to procure SMGs since the CAR 15s can do the job for CQB. The M3 grease Gun was pressed into service because it is numerous and .45ACP is a common cartridge in the Philippines. However, those times are over. We are procuring Czech Evo 3A1 SMGs and 9mm MTAR 21 SMGs.
Hey Simple History can you please do a video about the battle for hamburger hill?
HAMBORGOR
So interesting! As a former pvt in an italian mechanized regiment 🔰 at Yugoslavian border in 1985/86 we had the Beretta modified Garand, the light auto gun derived from the Garand, the FAL BM59, the 1919 Browning heavy machine gun and the also Beretta modified MG42 machine gun, that was also used by Yugoslavian army as a Zastava clone!😄
Those were the days, we are a little nostalgic of them, mainly because we were young, I suppose....😄
6:13 tf2 sniper sound
Fun fact, the design of the internals of the AK platform is more inspired by the Garand than the Stg.
Military Police State of Rio de Janeiro (Polícia Militar do Estado do Rio de Janeiro - PMERJ) in Brazil have a Madsen gun.
Eu sei, sou fluminense.
I remember this video, remember Forgotten Weapons, talking about the Madsen LMG used the Brazilian Police or Militaries
@@Account_abandoned-q7m eu sou brasileiro akakk
@@marcelonunesdossantos9512 caramba outro br aqui? Kkkk
Brooooo, the 1st gun mentioned is legit my favorite to use when playing The Final Reich zombies map on CoD:WWII! With the STG-44 and the M1911 u can beat that map solo.
The Chad 1911
the virgin sig
Uhh it's 1:17 Am are you ok?
@@MAC_THE_RETURN greetings from 1:18P.M
The 1911 becomes gigachad when it shoots bigger than 0.45 caliber.
It's interesting that .45 ACP was already such a staple by WWI, because .32 ACP was very frequently used until not even that long ago. My grandfather was a paratrooper/glider infantry in WWII, 82nd Airborne. One of two US liberating units who actually liberated concentration camps, and all he brought back besides his medals was an SS officer's sidearm and matching, serial numbered holster. It was a Belgian make and the naz!s had commandeered the arms and factory. They added their own stamps and serials, little swastikas being held by an eagle most memorably. Some of the most fascinating develoents in arms were the curved barreled rifles and machine guns, so they could fire from behind armor, out of holes and over walls. Bullets do actually travel and exit through dramatically curved barrels. I feel like I remember Demolition Ranch nearly making a balloon animal of a barrel, and it didn't fail.
Please do a video about the Iraq war, I feel as if it’s an important topic not discussed as much
Which one?
@@yodaslovetoy Im pretty sure he's talking about the 2003 Iraq War. I don't think there's anything else called the Iraq War. There's the Persian Gulf War, Iran-Iraq more and more (I think)
I've fired the Grease gun on multiple occasions and despite being in 45. It is a very controllable smg. I actually shot it back to back once with an MP40 and Sten gun and although the latter 2 were more controllable it wasn't by a huge margin.