I’m, I am an English speaker and in my dialect we do exactly the same thing with L as in Brazil. Ball becomes baw, bell becomes behw, little becomes li’ow (with a glottal stop for t). And no, not cockney, this is a UK south coast dialect.
Although I've watched this multiple times over the years since Luca Lampariello first posted it on his FB account, I want to see more covers of Brasileiro music from you please bruv. For instance Sabrina Malheiros (Nu-Bossa genre). 😊
Muito bom seu português! Seu dom com música e idiomas é admirável! 👏👏👏 Fico imaginando se casou com uma brasileira também ou a paixão foi só pela música 🤔😊
Muito bom! I’m from the US, but I married a Brazilian who didn’t speak English while I still didn’t speak Portuguese! We’ve been married 16 years now, probably because I quickly learned the two most important phrases: Eu te amo/O café tá pronto!
@@chendaforest if you want to learn any language, it’s important to have a compelling reason. Being able to speak to your other half is definitely a compelling reason!
Im brasilian! I know only "Alagoas; Pernambuco; Sergipe; Bahia; Espírito Santo; S. Paulo; Paraná; Mato Grosso. Em algumas cidades se fala muito, muito depressa! Em minha humilde opinião a pronúncia dos portugueses é péssima! (Conheci muitos portugueses!) You don't know many regions of Brazil! In some States the people speak very, very fast!
Yeah! As a Brazilian I speak fast and some of my friends don't understand me sometimes. Hahaha I've never seen any Brazilian speaking so slowly as the woman on video.
I'm not sure I'd call myself a polyglot, but I have had lessons in Portuguese (Brazilian), Spanish (Latino), German, Italian and Mandarin. But of all the countries I visited, Brazil was the place where they really helped me learn their language. I felt almost every Brazilian I met was my teacher. Now, wherever I am, if someone is speaking Brazilian, even if it's at the other end of a busy train carriage, I notice it straight away. Also, to me, the Brazilian accent sounds like happiness. ❤🇧🇷
Spanish comes from Latin. So it's wrong calling your variant "latino". The correct way is Latin American Spanish or just name the country. Greetings from Latin America
Essa é a diferença! Descreveu bem. Nós brasileiros temos o prazer e a paciência para ajudar o gringo a falar nosso idioma. Não ficamos entediados pelos erros, ao contrário, achamos fofo e nos disponibilizamos a ensinar da melhor forma possível. isto é, deixando a pessoa confortável.
Também sou apaixonada pela nossa versão do português. Mas não fale isso com os portugueses, eles odeiam saber que o "brasileiro" é mais falado que o idioma "raiz".
@@mep6302 while I understand your point of view, I would gently disagree as "latino" has become a term synonymous in the US and Canada for Latin Americans. Although from the view from Latin America, there is no such thing as a "Latin American Spanish", as each country has it's own take on Spanish, or better yet, Castilian.
@@DayaEngler isso, sou um estudante estrangeiro (da Jamaica) no Brasil agora mesmo que tá aprendendo português or 11 meses desde março do ano passado. Mesmo ainda tenho um pouco..medo a falar e vergonha mas os brasileiros são normalmente permanecem pacientes comigo.
In large parts of Brazil, "O senhor" and "A senhora" is the right polite way to address an older person you do not know or a customer or... Not just in the south...
The sound of "shhh" in Rio is because of the heavy influence of the Portugal's royal family. When the Portuguese royal family moved to Rio in 1808, fleeing from Napoleon, they brought 16,000 Portuguese. The city had 50,000 inhabitants. All these people changed the way of speaking in Rio de Janeiro.
As a carioca, while it is a popular theory, I am not so sure about that. For one, the sh also exists in other places such as Belém, Recife and Manaus, as well as in old dialects deep into the country as far as Goiás and Mato Grosso. For another, no one has ever proven people in Rio de Janeiro didn't already pronounce Portuguese like that. Throughout the Latin world, the Latin /s/ had an originally apical pronunciation that still exists in northern Portugal and northern Spain, from the Douro to Catalonia. French loanwords with /s/ into English often were written as sh (push comes from pousser). The reason why /s/ was shifted to laminal in most dialects is it merged with the c/ç phoneme, which initially represented /ts/. First c/ç became laminal s while s/ss stayed apical, then both turned laminal. This didn't happen in Trás-os-Montes, where both Portuguese and Astur-Leonese (Mirandese) use the same consonants of the Late Medieval Age. It also wasn't how northern and central Spanish mutated, with ts shifting to a th sound. In the coast of northern Portugal and in Catalonia, both shifted to apical instead. A possible reason why it survived so long in Iberia is the distinction is also present in Basque (which influences the other languages due to sprachbund effect) and it is a much deeper part of the language. And a possible reason why Brazilian Portuguese phonology could reflex those phonological processes is... Tupi s is retroflex (it also sounds like sh, kinda) while Tupi ç (as in çuçuarana) probably was pronounced as ts back then. So basically, part of the phonological development in Rio de Janeiro could just be from our very early Lusitanisation. Elsewhere in Brazil... People just kept speaking língua geral paulista and Nheengatu until the language was far more "modern", and I believe both línguas gerais have a less complex phonology than Old Tupi.
Both versions of Portuguese are beautiful. Brazilian Portuguese is not only more understandable to me, a native Spanish speaker, it’s also more similar as well. The verb conjugation for example. (Estou a comer/estou comendo/estoy comiendo)
In Portuguese Portuguese, you can say either way: "estou a comer" or "estou comendo", but people prefer the use, both orally and in writing "estou a comer" (which Brazilians don't use at all). Gerund in Portugal is used more as a conjuction rather than a verb tense (ex: "comendo sopa, eu alimento-me" = "by (or "because I am") eating soap, I feed myself".
I learned Portuguese in Brasil and always had a hard time understanding Portuguese from Portugal. I think it would be fun if you compared the different regions of Brasil. When I went to Manaus, I felt like I had to relearn Portuguese. Primarily it think it would be great to compare the Paulistas, Carioca, Nordeste, Gaucho and Norte.
@@joatanpereira4272 exactly the comment I was about to read hahahaha Even here in NE(I'm from Paraíba) we have too many diferences between our pronunciations
I would say, as a brazilian who has no formal training in spanish, it does not surprise me at all, because it also is easier for me to understand latin america spanish than “spanish” spanish. And I do prefer referring to Spanish language as Castellano.
I studied Brazilian Portuguese por almost 3 years, as a native Spanish speaker it came by so easily, but I would love it if someone made a video comparing other Portuguese spoken in different countries like Angola or one of the other 7 Portuguese speaking countries.
@@pedromotta4231 tive um professor de filosofia que sempre falava e encorajava os alunos dele a falar "eu penso" ao invés de "eu acho". pq "achar" tem uma conotação de dúvida, diferente de "pensar". eu acho que sim... (mas não tenho certeza) eu penso que sim. (eu raciocinei que sim, cheguei a esta conclusão)
I speak English and Spanish and currently learning BP. I couldnt stand the Carioca/Rio de Janeiro accent and thought it was extreme with its aspirations. But when I heard the Sao Paulo dialect and the SP countryside dialect, I fell in love. As a spanish speaker, the SP accent felt more musical and the constanants werent eaten. I decided to learn BP in the way of the São Paulo accent and im throroughly enjoying it. I also like the way the people of Minas Gerais speak, as well as the Curitba accent. I wanted to learn Curitibano Brazilian Portuguese but my Brazilian friends told me that was akin to foreigners wanted to learn english in a strong midwestern accent.
This is correct. Also, due to the polish immigrants, the way people in Curitiba will pronounce D and T and some other letters is kinda funny for the rest of us.
I'm reading Short Stories in Brazilian Portuguese now, and feel like I'm getting a much better grasp of reading the language! I love the Brazilian pronunciations, muito intencao! Emocao!
Just a friendly correction from a Brazilian: "muitA intenção". Intenção (and emoção too) is a feminine word, so it demands an "a" at the end of the pronoun. ;)
You are right! Partly because, as an example, you don't differentiate questions from statements grammatically, in Portuguese. It depends on intonation only! So you really have to act it out a little, so to speak... the sentence for "don't I need money?" and "I don't need money" is the same: Eu não preciso de dinheiro (?). Not a good thing if you get it wrong...
As someone who speaks French, I find that Brazilian Portuguese is easier to understand. Back in 2013 I spent a month in Lisbon and even towards the end I could hardly understand anything, I was so completely lost lol (wasn't there to learn the language to be clear). Someone there said that European Portuguese sounds like a drunken Russian person trying to speak Spanish 😁 I actually like both, they sound interesting in a different way and it's a language I would love to be able to speak.
Even Spanish speakers find Brazilian easier, Although I've found that Angolan is even easier, still. I've already learned Portuguese and gotten used to Brazilian Portuguese at this point, though.
@@JVerde853 You mean Angolan Portuguese, right? I hope you don't find it offensive, that's not my goal, I was wondering what do you mean by Angolan? But I got your point!
Don’t get yourself foolish, Brazilians don’t speak like that woman in this video, syllable by syllable, we speak fast and it’s very common “eat” syllable to say many words. Also we do a lot “contractions” forms, saying two words as a one. 👍🏻
Amigos portugueses, ananás e abacaxi são a mesma fruta. O que diferencia, na verdade, é que o ananás é um abacaxi cultivado em regiões mais frias, especificamente no sul do Brasil, e possui um tempo de maturação diferente (a fruta possui tamanho menor e é menos doce). Já o abacaxi, o que é maior, provém de regiões mais tropicais, leva menos tempo para ficar maduro e é mais doce
Ananás é sinônimo de abacaxi ou vice-versa, só que não é um termo usado no Brasil, "abacaxi" é o popular, ou o que "pegou". Tem gente em sites espalhando essa "explicação" (diferenciação) mas chamam abacaxi na França por "ananás", apenas o termo não "pegou" no Brasil (fui suprimido pelo outro que se tornou popular).
Non portuguese speakers love brazilian portuguese, because it is easy to understand. But as for me, a mozambican, i love the way portuguese people speak. It is lovely
I think I like European Portuguese more in terms of the words and pronunciation. (I am a native English speaker) but I like how flexible Brazilian Portuguese is in terms of word usage, verbing etc
European Portuguese pronunciation is also the standard model in Africa and Asia, not just in Portugal though the vocabulary might differ, of course and some speakers there sometimes speak with an accent influenced by local languages.
@@TheZenytram We weren’t asking for an explanation as to why. Don’t care about the why. Just noting the difference. All Portuguese language outside of Portugal is from colonization.
brazilian portuguese and portuguese differences are like English America and British, both Portuguese and British speak in a more formal way, while English US and Brazilian Pt speak in a way that is more wide open.
@@not3851 só isso explica a tua formação escolar (agradeça ao Paulo Freire), porque os brasileiros com formação académica, e graduação e mestrados entendem sem qualquer problema o português de Portugal, vocês viveram numa espécie de isolamento linguistico sem qualquer contacto com outras variantes de português fora do Brasil.
@@Luzitanium não cara, o português da Angola e países africanos da pra entender claramente, os de outras regiões de Portugal também. É alguma coisa específica com o jeito dos portugueses de porto falar que faz ficar difícil pra os Brasileiros
@@not3851 não é isso que os brasileiros dizem, vocês dizem que o portuguêsa africano é mais parecido com o de Portugal, ou então é puro preconceito vosso o que não é de admirar.
@@Luzitanium Nenhum brasileiro que conheço diz isso, absolutamente nenhum. Não posso falar pelos outros, mas quem eu conheço todos concordam que a única dificuldade de entender português é o do pessoal da região do Porto em Portugal. Tanto que o rei do kuduro faz um sucesso absurdo no Brasil com o português engraçado que ele criou, é engraçado e fácil de compreender mesmo ele falando "errado" do jeito engraçado dele. Até hoje só vi brasileiro ter problema de compreensão com os portugueses de Porto, tanto que todos canais de portuga que assisto, nunca tive problema de entender, mas quando é um de um português do porto eu sofro a ponto de ter q tirar da vel 2x
Yah, I only learned European Portuguese because my mom was born south of Lisbon, and didn't quite realize what the differences were until later. To me, I do like European Portuguese more just because it sounds more natural to me
Portuguese here | somethings are pronounced in different regions of Portugal. Even the systematic use of the gerund... in my region ("Alentejo" ) we use it like the Brazilians...even being a small country we have a wide diversity of accents and pronunciations...
@@maverick767 Portugal é um Pais médio tanto a nível mundial como Europeu. No mundo há quase tantos paises menores como maiores e na Europa é o 18 maior entre 52 do continente. Portugal tem o dobro do tamanho da Holanda ou da Irlanda, a mesma superficie da Austria ou Hungria e é pouco menor que a Inglaterra. A França é já considerado um País de grandes dimensões portanto vamos para com essa falsa propaganda.
The Brazilian woman exaggerates the pronunciation of each word, it's quite obvious!! People don't speak like that normally. Brazilians also shorten words just not as much as the Portuguese.
Gente ela apenas está falando devagar pra mostrar a diferença , pelo menos aqui nós falamos rapido , eu mesmo acho que uma pessoa aprendendo português não entenderia eu falando se eu falasse sem ser devagar
Cada vez mais eu gosto dos dois....o Português que é mais polido e o brasileiro que é mais envolvente. Saber os dois abre as portas em cada um dos 2 países e mostra de certa forma um respeito e um conhecimento avançado de cada cultura. Aprendam e se atualizem sempre com as duas versões. Beijinhos.
As a Mexican, Brazilian Portuguese sounds so nice and elegant, the way they pronounce the T like in “sete” “leite” it’s so cute, Portuguese from Portugal for me sounds like Spanish with a weird accent
Oh, don't worry; as an European Portuguese speaker who is fluent in Spanish with an European accent, my least favourite variety of Spanish is the Mexican one. Way too slow and retarded-sounding.
In Portugal, we also use "o senhor/a senhora", among other forms, when we want to be formal, instead of just using "você", which we tend to avoid. "Ordenar" can also mean "to give orders" ("dar ordens") in Portugal - apart from also meaning "to put something in order/organise" ("organizar"). That "se sinta em casa" bit was totally off. In Portugal we'd say "sinta-se em casa" (imperative) and, for example, "quero que você se sinta em casa", because of words like "que". In Brazil it would be the same. It depends on the sentence. In Portugal, "abacaxi" is a variety of "ananás" ("pineapple"). We also say "fila" ("queue") in Portugal nowadays, exactly to avoid confusion with "bicha" ("poofter"), we can also mean "queue". In Portugal, "sorvete" is probably a somewhat more old-fashioned word, but it usually refers to a ice cream on a stick, rather than ice cream balls in a cone ("gelado"). "Xícara" can also be used in Portugal. Probably more towards the north of the country. "Perceber" is a synonym of "entender/compreender" in Portugal or even "perceive", also in Portugal we'd probably say "percepcionar" in this context, whereas Brazilians would probably prefer "perceber". Both words derive from the same Latin root, anyway. "Canalha" is very much used in Portugal in the exact same sense as it is used in Brazil. Although rare nowadays, "trem" can also mean "train" in Portugal. "Baptismo" is no longer written, nor pronounced, in either country. "Batismo" is the sole spellingn now, unfortunately. "Só um minutinho" has the exact same meaning/use in Portugal. It's written "foi mau" because it's an adjective, not an adverb. I feel the slang words that the girl from Portugal chose are very unoriginal and boring, as we have so many slang words and expressions. I also think that you've given the Brazilian lady way more airtime in the segment about slang. You've clearly shown a preference for the Brazilian variant - which is totally fine, by all means, I just feel that such a video ought to have been impartial (and I'd say this regarding any language).
I have been studying and I'm still learning but Brazilian Portuguese because when I saw the lady speak Portuguese from Portugal there was lots of words that I did not recognize but I do like a Brazilian Portuguese because of they pronounce all the words and it's very easy to understand them when they speak and I like the accent because it's more open.
I totally disagree. If you're going to learn a language, you should try to learn that harder variant. Doing so will make it easier for you to understand all the other variants. I am a Portuguese but I also can understand very easily all brasilians, angolans ... The same is not true with Brazilians. Once I visited brazil but a good lot of people had difficulty to understand me but I could understand every single word they said. To talk to them I just used a similar accent. And because of how informal brasilian portuguese tends to be you will be more prepared to speak in a work enviroment with the portuguese from Portugal.
@@franciscocarvalho8018 I disagree with your comment. There’s formal registers of the Brazilian portuguese as well. Maybe you're familiar with informal versions of the language. I'm Brazilian myself, and lived for three years in Portugal. There people would ask me ”how come do you speak Portuguese so well, you don't sound like Brazilians, or you've learned Portuguese really well”, because many don't even consider our language Portuguese, they call it ”brasileiro” and I would just replay ”there are different varieties of the language in Brazil. " On TH-cam you can find a lot of kinds of contents in Brazilian Portuguese, covering different subjects from politics to philosophy. So, please, don't underestimate us. By the way, I LOVE Portugal. 💙
@@franciscocarvalho8018 For beginners I think Brazilian Portuguese is better because you will progress faster. But after I learn Brazilian Portuguese I will study the Portuguese accent from Portugal too.
@@meergoedemuziek Madam, I had a maid that was also from Brazil and, in the beginning she had some difficulties in understanding what we meant. But she now speaks like a native Portuguese. But it took a long time for that to be possible. Because of how different our accents are it is pretty normal for you to miss some word or to don't understand us. I am not saying that you don't have great content. I read a good quantity of news from your side of the Atlantic. I am just saying that it would be beneficial for someone that is trying to learn a language to learn a variant that is harder so it becomes easier to learn other accents.
As a Brazilian who has many Portuguese friends in the UK, I appreciate all accents and their beauty and unique words and slang. While Brazilian accents in general might be easier for speakers of other languages to understand, there are Brazilian regional and rural accents that can be very difficult to understand. I would give it a good thought before choosing which variety of Portuguese you want to learn as the style is different. If you intend on speaking mostly with Portuguese speakers from Africa and Portugal, obviously I would go with European Portuguese. Being honest though Brazilian Portuguese has many more speakers and there are Brazilians pretty much everywhere. It might also be more useful for business, depending on what you work with.
I remember falling in love with Portuguese (the Brazilian version) when I first watched the movie "Fast Five". However, a coupls of years ago, I don't even remember how, I heard the European version and since then it has got all my love! Portuguese is the most beautiful language and I am so happy that I have taken it for 2 years in university, even though my teachers were not that great.
Same here. Started with Brazilian, but lately I've listened to a lot of European portuguese, and I love it so much. It's not hard once you get used to it.
Being the child of Portuguese parents From the Azores, I grew up in a household w/ Brazilian soap operas and Continental tv (RTP). I'd have have to lean towards the Continental style.
As a Portuguese person, I'd say that in European Portuguese the L is clearly there (we just don't pronounce it longer because it has no E after it), while in Brasil they convert the L into an U.
@@ramg2112 while I do agree, I'm really talking about L as the deaf sound L, without vowels. In European Portuguese, it is there. When we say the alphabet in Portuguese, L, the deaf sound of the tongue reaching just behind the teeth. I'd say that it is more common that at the end of the words European Portuguese will have that sound, while Brazilian Portuguese tends to exchange that L sound to a sonorized counterpart U sound. I can't comment on Minas Gerais' particular accent, as it might be more pronounced than other states in Brazil, but for the most part, the L gets sonorized in Brazilian pronunciation. Have a fantastic night, from a Portuguese man in Maia, Portugal.
@@ramg2112 Mal in European Portuguese, at least in the north, it's more like MAH-L, more than MAWL, and in a more Carioca fashion, it, to me, sounds more like MAU-(L) (soft L when spoken more quietly and almost inaudible at normal tone) for the Brazilian pronunciation counterpart.
@@vladlu6362 Well it could be in northern dialects of Portuguese. But the standard is in Lisbon's dialect. The same could be said to the Brazilian woman in the video that speaks with a southeastern dialect. Pronouncing D and T as Dj and Tc. Something that does not happen in Southern and northeastern dialects of Brazilian Portuguese.
@@jackyex Well, in fact, European Portuguese's default dialect is NOT the Lisbon one, since only Coimbra and Lisboa have it. Everywhere else it's just the Northern accent, which is much more stress timed and short vowel than Lisbon's one. No politician speaks with the Lisbon accent, it's mostly the youth that speaks like that.
I’m a native European-Portuguese speaker. Some of the expressions I prefer from European-Portuguese but some other expressions I prefer Brazilian-Portuguese. 🇵🇹💛🇧🇷
Quem dera houvessem programas portugueses na TV brasileira. Seria uma troca maior. Os que há são adaptações de grande obras literárias, na Globo, mas com sotaque brasileiro.
Luciana was great at providing the BP pronunciation for the example dialogues, but I can't avoid but think that showcasing more BP accents from other regions of the country could've been more effective at highlighting the differences in pronunciation between BP and EP, especially when it comes to the letters 'R' and 'S' 👍
Nesse caso, precisaria fazer o mesmo com Portugal. É complicado incluir tantas as variações.
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Para os Portugueses em Portugal é muito fácil entender o Português que os Brasileiros falam ou diferentes variações Língua Portuguesa d pois sempre tivemos contacto com o Português falado no Brasil e de outros Países ou Regiões (desde os finais dos anos 70, por causa das telenovelas e filmes que eram exibidos em Portugal). No entanto a maioria dos meus amigos Brasileiros que vivem cá e por toda a Europa dizem que quando têm o primeiro contacto com o Português Europeu não nos percebem / entendem ( mas existem excepções) um grande abraço desde 🇵🇹❤️
Ola João! Legal o comentario, voce tem razao! Nunca tive muita dificuldade por estar mais habituado aos sons schwa e aos chiados cariocas e tambem por acompanhar alguns canais portugueses por vezes e isso ajuda-me a ajustar os ouvidos as diferentes variantes da lingua. Gostaria de fazer uma pequena pergunta, se nao se importa. Em que situacoes o verbo entender seria usado em Portugal? se puder dar-me exemplos por favor. Forte abraço !!
@@mrcios2733 "Eu estou a entender o que estás a dizer" , "Eu entendi o que disseste" "Entendo que não querias entender" "Tu entendes aquilo que estás a dizer?" "Nós entendemos que tu não entendas" "Vós entendestes o que quis dizer?" São alguns exemplos.
Como um brasileiro, concordo com a sua afirmação. Por aqui normalmente temos contato apenas com as contribuições históricas de Portugal à formação dos costumes brasileiros, de forma que a cultura portuguesa atual fique pouco difundida. Seria muito gratificante se nós lusófonos pudéssemos ser mais amigáveis uns com os outros, ao contrário da imagem que vemos atualmente de um povo tentando provar ser superior ao outro, seja nos costumes ou na linguagem.
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@@mrcios2733 é um significado de perceber ou compreender, o Hugo Miguel explicou de uma forma bastante clara isso mesmo. Um abraço desde Lisboa
Tanto para os brasileiros quanto para os portugueses o importante é que eles se compreendem quando vão visitar os paises irmãos. Pois se um brasileiro for morar em Portugal ele vai absorver o sotaque portugues em alguns anos e vice versa! Também é possível perceber a diferença facilmente do sotaque dos Americanos nortistas em relação aos Americanos sulistas!
The amount of difference between Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese is about the same between American English and British English, spanning across vocabulary, pronunciation, intonation, writing, etc, in both language pairs. I speak both proficiently, so I can tell.
@@viktor7208 não é necessariamente. Deve estar pensando na versão padrão da língua, ou inglês RP. Na verdade, se poderia argumentar que dialetos britânico-irlandeses são ainda mais distintos de americanos que português brasileiro e português ibérico. Alguns dialetos escoceses tem nível de inteligibilidade baixíssima entre americanos.
@@VDCization Exacto! As pessoas pensam que no RU todos falam com o sotaque RP quando na verdade, é apenas uma pequena minoria e a variedade de sotaques dentro do próprio RU é enorme
I'm actually from a Portuguese family, so I can *mostly* understand what both your friends here are saying, because I grew up in a city where the language was casually around every day. However a lot of the particulars here are new to me because neither the Portugal nor Brazil dialects were common where I grew up. It was mostly all immigrants from sao miguel. So basically it was the same thing, only different.
Creio que poderei escrever em Português. São Miguel é uma ilha fabulosa, tal como o resto dos açores. Mas o vocabulário das ilhas é bem mais parecido com o lisboeta do que com o brasileiro, não acha?
@@franciscocarvalho8018 os estrangeiros pensam que todos os brasileiros falam como falam paulistas, a pronuciar "t" e "d" como "tch" e "dj", em Recife por exemplo, a pronúncia do t, d e s é igual a de Portugal
Abacaxi e Ananás são duas frutas diferentes. Em Portugal sabemos a diferença. Abacaxi normalmente é importado da América do Sul e bastante mais barato que o Ananás. O abacaxi é bastante mais doce que o Ananás. Por cá o Ananás mais consumido é o produzido nos Açores. Na loja tem sempre bem definido o que é Ananás e o que é abacaxi.
É extremamente interessante perceber nossa língua através do olhar do outro - brasileira de São Paulo, aqui. Existe formalidade no Brasil, sim. Mas o espaço de seu uso é mais restrito. Conforme a situação profissional, é bom usar “senhor” e “senhora” como forma de tratamento. Por outro lado, os corações idosos, nas relações pessoais, ficam felizes quando são chamados de “você”
I'm Brazilian and I have never ever heard about "Fada sensata" before 16:20. But other than that, interesting video, many of the shown Portugal's Portuguese words were unknown to me.
São formas ligeiramente diferentes de pronunciar o idioma... tal como acontece com o Inglês do Reino Unido e Austrália, tal como acontece com e Espanhol de Espanha ou o Espanhol dos países da América Latina ( quel fala espanhol) É somente uma questão de educação/ querer ser o mais correcto possível ( sendo que todas as formas estao correctas ) e acrescento de que pelo menos os Portugueses em Portugal percebemos as diferentes variações de Português ( Seja de Angola, Brasil, Cabo Verde, Guiné Bissau, Guiné, Macau, Moçambique, São Tomé e Principe, Timor Leste ) Em Portugal tentamos sempre ajudar e perceber as diferentes pronúncias do Português de uma forma tranquila e sem julgamentos ( e podem acreditar que embora Portugal seja um país pequeno temos v arias pronúncias ( incluino as regiões autonomas dos Açores e Madeira ) ... Vamos ser felizes e viver a vida de uma forma descomplicacada! Se nao for fácil perceber o Português, pode sempre pedir para repetir a frase calmamente... equalquer pessoa que fale Português ( seja em que " versão de português/ país de origem da língua portuguesa teremos muito gosto em ajudar ( Pelo menos em Portugal fazemos isso ) Mas acima de tudo todos nós que falamos Português devemos ter muito orgulho em falar a nossa lingua, indepentemente da pronúncia / sotaque ou país/ região ondeusamos o Português:)
Eu já me acostumei ao sotaque do português europeu. É lindo. Vejo muito vídeos do #Euronews em português e convenhamos, é uma delícia. Deveríamos consumir mais da música, filmes e séries de Portugal!!! #BrasilPortugal somos irmãos.
as I am both PT and BR, I really need to say one thing: the "t" and "d" sounding as "ch" and "j" is not a general "Brazilian" feature at all, this happens in some regions only, in many other states (mostly northeast) the pronunciation is just like in Portugal ("s" as "x", closed "t" - tea - and "d" - dee). I see foreigners constantly making this mistake, and to be be honest, it is very problematic to say there is a Brazilian Portuguese because the dialectical changes vary so much due to the size of the country, the way that woman speaks in the video does not represent the variation I grew up with in Brazil at all (Recife dialect).
*it is very problematic to say there is a Brazilian Portuguese because the dialectical changes vary so much due to the size of the country* But even in Portugal dialectical changes also vary a lot from region to region. People from Lisbon (like Carla) speak very differently than people from Northern Portugal - Lisbon Portuguese is stress-timed, whereas Northern Portuguese is most of the times syllable-timed. Even the vowels, sibilants and slang are different...
Thank you. Idk why people who is learning Brazilian Portuguese force themselves to pronounce de D and T sound like G and CH when they can just speak the original sound of it
@@diogorodrigues747 Imagine being represented by supposedly a variant where people from all over the world thinks the "d" and "t" has an uniform sound of "tchee" and "gee", when in reality this is not the case. Today I speak a kind of hybrid Portuguese, because really the so called Brazilian Portuguese is perceived as a Sao Paulo/Rio Portuguese. As for your take, well, I am aware a tripeiro speaks differently from someone from Lisbon or Alenteijo for that matter, but the difference here is dialects that developed thousands of miles away from each other, in the past, each hereditary captaincy (later on states), had its own culture and naturally grew up as different "countries" linked to a central power, Recife and its state of Pernambuco for example always was somewhat resistant of belonging to a project called Brazil, so the sheer size and distance helped develop totally different dialects and world views which due to geographical constraints was not as radical in Portugal (because Portugal is a compact country).
@@matheuszord They don't need indeed, they can pronounce as it reads and they will be speaking as anyone from Pernambuco, Paraiba and Alagoas, people really don't speak like that in this area.
Belgians when they speak Flemish also say the formal you “U” instead of the informal “jij” often. When they come here to the Netherlands, we also often think it’s weird / funny.
@L'Ephebe93 not quite the typical plural, though, it is a royal you used for the King, in the same fashion of the royal we of other languages. The more general plural is vós outros, later vós. But we don't use that. Almost verywhere Lusophone, we use vocês instead. Portuguese people still use second person plural conjugation (generally, while dropping the pronoun) since vós was still current there when Gen X were young adults, but in Brazil, it has been extinct for centuries. Indeed, a common grammar mistake in everyday speech in Portugal is vocês + second person conjugation, opposite of Brazil's tu + third person conjugation.
I started learning Portuguese a couple of weeks ago and I'm leaning toward the European accent, I enjoy hearing the sound "sh" at the end of many words, it's lovely...
@@franciscocarvalho8018 Olá o Francisco, está a aprender o português de Portugal! Eu gostaria ter alguém para practicar com a falar. O senhor gostaria ajudar-me?
@@ZIM626 sir, I would love to help you. First lets correct that sentence. I will translate to english what, I suppose, you wanted to tell me: Hello Francis, I am learning european Portuguese! I would like to have someone to practice the speech. Could you help me? The best way to translate this would be: Olá Francisco, (Eu) estou a aprender o português Europeu! (Eu) Gostaria de ter alguém para praticar a fala comigo. Poderia ajudar-me? If you need any help just ask. If you want to contact me in private please send a mail to: fxmapc2004@gmail.com
Another difference between brazilian and Portuguese Pronunciation. Word: money Portugal:dinheiro Brazil:djinheiro Brazilian portuguese sometimes has a "j" Sound between some letters, Especially between the "d" and a Vowel.
Brazil has many different accents. So it's not a rule, there are accents closer to Portuguese, accents with a strong Italian influence like São Paulo. When learning the Brazilian accent, it is necessary to choose the accent of the state, because each state in the country has a different accent.
Brazilian here. I really like the EP accent. Few Brazilians are used to it, though. I remember watching the news a while back and they were interviewing someone from Portugal. They gave it subtitles! Hahaha… I was horrified; there was no need for that. Takes a bit longer to understand what Portuguese people are saying if you hear it for the first time, but nothing too crazy.
I'm Brazilian, and had a few Portuguese teachers in college. It was so hard to understand them that I had to almost exclusively rely on the text books for the subjects they taught.
Você is equalizing in Portugal, one should use tu for close relationships or o senhor/a senhora as a marker of respect. You shouldn't use você in Portugal almost ever. BUT você and o senhor and a senhora work the same in Brazil, throughout the country! People from Northeastern Brazil can be the most tradition-minded. Tu is used in more parts of Brazil than most people think. You will find it in every region. It is an everyday thing in Rio Grande do Sul, Northeastern Brazil and Pará as well as parts of other states settled by people from those regions (the Rio Grande do Sul diaspora is huge in western Santa Catarina, and throughout the soy belt/beef belt from Mato Grosso do Sul to the new farms encroaching deep into the Amazon). It is also used in Rio de Janeiro and the locals of coastal São Paulo that have been established in there the longest (as opposed to people whose families settled there more recently) but it is much more informal. People in Rio Grande do Sul, Maranhão and Pará often conjugate tu as second person, but it is always just third person in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. In Northeastern Brazil outside of Maranhão, they conjugate it in a modified form of the second person (tu visse? instead of tu viste? - did you see it?). Also, baptismo is not a current spelling in Brazil. I wonder if it is used in Portugal, too, because unless they pronounce that p, it has been abolished by the recent Orthographic Reform agreement (which most Portuguese don't really abide to; it unified the spellings in Portugal and Brazil in most words, but by changing it to a Brazilian form half of the time or inventing a new one the other half).
As for the "baptismo" spelling, somebody earlier already pointed out that it was mistakenly attributed to the Brazilian spelling, while it is supposed to be "batismo".
The use of “tu” is widespread in Santa Catarina and in Paraná, but not because of the influence of settlers from Rio Grande do Sul. The seaside of Santa Catarina uses “tu” because of the Azorean Portuguese settlers that came in the 18th century. Many cultural aspects of the three Southern states are wrongly thought to have firstly originated in Rio Grande do Sul and then spread to the other two states, but are as native to Santa Catarina and Paraná as they are from Rio Grande do Sul.
Yes, that p disappeared with the Orthographic Reform. But you can still find "baptismo" written somewhere. Many people write the way they had learned and others don't agree with this Reform because there are some stupid rules that don't follow the orality/pronunciation.
abrasileirada que demos ao nosso português tornou ele tão interessante e especial… pra mim, modéstia à parte, é o idioma mais lindo, seguido do espanhol
So confusing! :) I'm using five apps on my phone and realized after a while that they seem to contradict each other in pronunciation. That's when I understood that you need to find out what version you're learning. Now I have to unlearn some things!
I'm a native European-Portuguese speaker. First of all, I just want to congratulate you on your videos, they're always so interesting! 😊 I honestly can't believe she said "bicha" in EU-PT when it comes to a "queue". It has such a derogatory meaning behind it (I think it's the same meaning in BR-PT), it's like slang or even foul language. We do say "fila" in EU-PT. 😊
It's funny because the difference between "bicha" in Brazil and Portugal is the most widespread topic in Brazil when people are asked about the differences of the language in both countries. There are many jokes about it. Perhaps, as you said, it's not completely accurate, but for some reason it's the most popular one.
Not entirely true... in some parts of Portugal like Braga (maybe others as well), people say "bicha" for queue. As always, in this kind of topics we tend to generalize but we have many differences depending on the region.
Some years ago I learned portuguese in Lisboa. So I was used to european portuguese when I visited Rio de Janeiro in the eighties. I was in a nice restaurant in Copacabana and asked the waiter the "ementa". It was very embarassing as he didn't understand at all. So I used an intermediate word: the lista, and he understood. He explained me later that the right word is "cardapio"
Ementa in Brasil is a very rare word to be used, would be more like an abstract, and it is used only by people who works with Laws to refer to the abstract of the sentence of a judge
European Portuguese sounds closer to Castilian (European) Spanish, which is the Spanish I speak and understand best. The Brazilian "d" as in diamante feels strange. Honestly they're both fine dialects of a nice language in the end. I'd like to visit both countries one day. Portugal very soon I expect as it's a bit closer to home.
After getting used to it, it’s super odd to not hear it. Some regions like parts of the state of São Paulo outside the capital don’t use it and they make fun of it a bit. “Leite quente com a gente.”
Well, geographical proximity surely does have something to do with that, but you should try to hear people speaking galician, which is considered by many to be a dialect of the portuguese language. To me, and just like modern portuguese, it's a different variation of the old Galician-portuguese language. You'll be like "wait, that sounds just like portuguese... but is that really portuguese?"
@@CDPF5 I advise you to listen to Galician spoken in the countryside and not Galician spoken in the cities. The first resembles a lot Portuguese, the second sound like Spanish A LOT (and lots of Spanish words are used).
@@diogorodrigues747 I live right next to the galician countryside. The sad thing is that type of galician is mostly used by elderly people and it's a variation that is basically going extinct.
Perceber entender, a língua é a mesma as palavras também são as mesmas, vai variar de pessoas para pessoas, nem todo brasileiro fala igual assim como nem todo português fala igual! Por exemplo: Essa moça disse, entendo, mas garanto que muitos outros brasileiros diriam percebo! O mesmo vale para os portugueses! O que acontece é que cada país tende a querer mostrar que sabe falar melhor a língua que o outro, e muitas vezes alternam palavras quando na verdade elas têm basicamente o mesmo significado! Creio que, o que vai diferir sempre são: As girias, sotaques, calão e pronúncias! Gerundio, Diminutivo e Aumentativo? Existem em ambas as versões, só que um país finge que não existe e no outro usa-se em excesso! No final todos se entendem mas as vezes fingem que não!
9:21 the PT and BR versions were switched. PT - "Sinta-se (você) em casa" or the informal "Sente-te (tu) em casa". In BR they almost never conjugate verbs reflexively, although in PT it is considered proper speaking
@@alovioanidio9770I'm saying, in speaking it is not common for BR speakers to conjugate reflexively, although in PT, the exception is when you do not (negative sentences, conditions and others). Take the phrase "Amo-te (PT)" and "Te amo (BR)"
Carioca Portuguese, especially that which is sung in Bossa Nova and MPB is beautiful to hear. It definitely reflects the shift to the tropics. Continental Portuguese is equally sweet and lyrical but, in my opinion, more refined and conservative in the way it sounds. Both are beautiful, but continental trumps for me. It's less annoying 🙃
Eu aprendi o portugués falado em Brasil, mas quando descubri o português luso, adorei o sotaque. No começo não entendia muito, mas hoje em dia ja vi muitos vídeos e acostumei o ouvido, até os consigo imitar 😄
Im Slovenian speaking Brazilian Portuguese, because i was living with Brazilian woman for more than seven years. I also have a son with her and we speak with each other only in Brazilian Portuguese. The fun fact is that when i hear Portuguese from Portugal, i almost don"t recognize it! Other day i was sitting in the bus here in Slovenia ( in Ljubljana) and there was a group of tourist speaking Portuguese from Portugal and i needed some five minutes to figure it out which language they are speaking! In the beginning thought that it was some slavic language or maybe even Baltic ( Latvian or Lituanian) Portuguese from Brazil is so different that should be own language. It"s also one of the most beautiful languages ( and i speak several languages) in the world!
I wish there were more learning resources to learn European Portuguese. There's not many available. Theres countless books, courses, etc for Brazilian Portuguese.
I, as a Mexican, and Spanish speaker, found European Portuguese (the Portuguese dialect I speak) more sofisticated and fascinating than the Brazilian one just because of its pronounciation and speed (because, for anybody who doesn't speak portuguese wondering, European Portuguese is spoken fastest than Brazilian). I must confess that European Portuguese can be a bit difficult to understand to ears which never heard portuguese before, but It's worth it if you wanna learn and speak something out of common and beautiful. I want also to mention that Portugal is an extremely BEAUTIFUL country. I'm very proud of myself because I can speak Spanish, English, Portuguese and I'm learning French.
@@gringa23 Yeah! both, the Brazilian an European dialects of Portuguese are beautiful, but, if you already speak English, I recommend you to learn Spanish first or after Portuguese; I'll tell you why. Spanish, besides being a too useful language, it's most widely spoken than Portuguese, and if you learned Spanish first, it'll make Portuguese learning easier, besides Portuguese it's also a useful language.
Really like the video. Just a correction in Luciana way of saying aeromoça. We don’t use it anymore since “moça” is the same meaning of girl. Now we use “comissário de bordo” because it can be use for men or women.
@@allanapereira8200, aeromoça até concordo, mas aeromoço não. Acho muito esquisito olhar pra um homem adulto e chamá-lo de aeromoço. Nos poucos voos em que eu estive, nunca ouvi alguém ser chamado de aeromoço. Era sempre comissário.
Olá! Sou do Brasil. Primeiramente, gostaria de dizer que o vídeo está incrível. Apresenta as diferenças entre o português do Brasil e o português de Portugal de uma forma bastante abrangente, tocando em vários pontos interessantes. Parabéns! Só gostaria de apontar alguns pequenos equívocos, que são totalmente normais para um vídeo que aborda tantos tópicos. Na parte dos pronomes reflexivos você diz que no Brasil diríamos "Sinta-se em casa" e que em Portugal eles diriam "Se sinta em casa". Na verdade é exatamente o contrário. No Brasil predomina o pronome antes do verbo, já em Portugal, depois do verbo. Além disso, ali pelo minuto 10:51, houve uma falta de correspondência entre a palavra que aparecia no vídeo e a palavra que era dita pela convidada, ou seja, no momento em que a convidada portuguesa falou, apareceu a palavra brasileira e, no momento em que a convidada brasileira falou, apareceu a palavra portuguesa. Por fim, no momento em que você fala das diferenças ortográficas, você coloca que no Brasil se escreve "Baptismo". Na verdade não é assim. Em Portugal é que se escrevia "Baptismo" até o Acordo Ortográfico de 1990. Hoje em dia, tanto em Portugal quanto no Brasil se escreve "Batismo".
@Victória Régia Pires acho que os dois são normais pra essa expressão em específico, mas acho que estou mais acostumado com o "sinta-se" ou mais ainda com "fica à vontade"
@Victória Régia Pires Você tem razão. No Brasil nós podemos ouvir as duas formas, no que toca a essa construção em específico. Mas eu penso que ele não quis falar dessa frase especificamente, entende? Acho que ele usou como exemplo pra falar de uma regra geral. E, como regra geral, no Brasil o pronome vem antes do verbo e em Portugal, depois. Por exemplo, aqui no Brasil, o normal é dizer "Me dá um copo", "Eu me levantei cedo hoje" ou "A gente se adapta a tudo". Em Portugal o mais comum seria "Dá-me um copo", "Levantei-me cedo hoje" e "A gente adapta-se a tudo".
@@yanngomes7280 Em Portugal também se coloca o pronome antes do verbo quando o verbo é negado ou quando a frase começa com uma conjunção como "se", "quando", etcetera.
Brazilian Portuguese is easier to understand than European Portuguese just like Spanish in southern Mexico is than in northern Mexico. They speak more slowly and syllibically more clearly.
Well, that1s not 100% accurate... I think we really are easier to understand, but it's nothing about to speed. In fact, we talk really fast here, but respecting all the letters in the words. Keep in mind we are a damn huge country, and we'll have a lot of diferents pronunciations around here, but in comparison to Portugal, I think we speak more similiar to english natives.
@@canalmagno Portugal also have tons of different dialects and pronounciation. Here a person from the South can something have trouble to understand a person from the North of the country...
Im from Portugal and I would say Estou patinando and also fila instead of bicha and we also use the verb entender not only perceber…. Some of this information on the European Portuguese seems closer to a more formal Portuguese from textbook or something, Portuguese is much more varied and coloquial. But, all that aside, Carla did a great job and I appreciate you doing this video
Não falamos tão pausadamente como esta brasileira. Este vídeo faz o português brasileiro paracer um pouco entediante. Os portugueses comem as vogais , ao contrário dos brasileiros . Mas é importante frisar que dentro do Brasil há sotaques diferentes.
É de conhecimento geral que tanto Brasil quanto Portugal possuem os sotaques regionais, entretanto cada país tem o chamando sotaque padrão. Acredito que em Portugal o sotaque padrão seja o Lisboeta e no Brasil o sotaque de São Paulo ou Rio de Janeiro.
@@guilhermeborges9217 Acho que o carioca se sobressai mais, até porque o Paulista varia muito, a cidade é muito dividida, tem o sotaque caipiria, o do pessoal da quebrada, o italiano, no Rio é mais padronizado
@@guilhermeborges9217 o sotaque padrão seria mais próximo do de Brasília, que tem o R parecido com o carioca e o S do paulista. É como é falado nos telejornais.
And, in portugal, we try to hide the "você" word. In brazil they say "você está jogando" but in portugal we say "está a jogar" (formal) or "estás a jogar" (informal). And sometimes we use other words like "a senhora está bonita instead of "você está bonita" 9:22 portugal says sinta-se em casa (formal) too and sente-te em casa (informal)
Sente-te em casa in Brazil would create confusion. To us, it's the imperative form of the verb sentar (to sit). "Ele/ela/você se sente" is obviously a phrase we use, but I feel like we wouldn't make the connection here and feel lost for a good 3 seconds (maybe longer, for low IQ people).
In a lot of places você had become just Cê. So words like Be, If, You, Himself are all pronounced as SE in casual ( pretty much in any circumstance) speech.
brazilian accent is portuguese with italian pronunciation - or as a person who is learning portuguese. The ending vowels shouldn be opened. Italian influences in Brasil. Portuguese accent is like posh english. Brazilian is like an italian portuguese. Regarding gerundio, it is used in some regions of Portugal: Alentejo.
I am Brazilian from th Northeast , Salvador, Bahia , when we r studying Portuguese at school in the elementary school, we learn how to separte syllable , that's why it seems we speak slowy sillable sounds separated , but it depends on person and region and the accent as well . But overall he is correct abou our way to speak.
Want more Brazilian Portuguese? Here’s some British guy singing one of my favourite songs! th-cam.com/video/sReTCr-WPxc/w-d-xo.html
I’m, I am an English speaker and in my dialect we do exactly the same thing with L as in Brazil. Ball becomes baw, bell becomes behw, little becomes li’ow (with a glottal stop for t). And no, not cockney, this is a UK south coast dialect.
Although I've watched this multiple times over the years since Luca Lampariello first posted it on his FB account, I want to see more covers of Brasileiro music from you please bruv. For instance Sabrina Malheiros (Nu-Bossa genre). 😊
Muito bom seu português! Seu dom com música e idiomas é admirável! 👏👏👏 Fico imaginando se casou com uma brasileira também ou a paixão foi só pela música 🤔😊
And you sounds british mate!!!
Nice video but horrible example of Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation, no one speaks that slow lol
Muito bom! I’m from the US, but I married a Brazilian who didn’t speak English while I still didn’t speak Portuguese! We’ve been married 16 years now, probably because I quickly learned the two most important phrases: Eu te amo/O café tá pronto!
That's all you need to conquer a Brazilian's heart lol
What language do you use to talk to your wife, or do you both speak both now ? :)
@@chendaforest We speak both now. In 2019 We moved from the US to Brazil. We speak English at home and Portuguese elsewhere.
@@daveleesenglish nice! I want to learn Portuguese so maybe I should find a Brazilian guy :)
@@chendaforest if you want to learn any language, it’s important to have a compelling reason. Being able to speak to your other half is definitely a compelling reason!
Besides the accent, the brazilian lady is speaking on a slow speed, different than the normal speed
Im brasilian! I know only "Alagoas; Pernambuco; Sergipe; Bahia; Espírito Santo; S. Paulo; Paraná; Mato Grosso. Em algumas cidades se fala muito, muito depressa! Em minha humilde opinião a pronúncia dos portugueses é péssima! (Conheci muitos portugueses!) You don't know many regions of Brazil! In some States the people speak very, very fast!
Yeah! As a Brazilian I speak fast and some of my friends don't understand me sometimes. Hahaha I've never seen any Brazilian speaking so slowly as the woman on video.
Totally, that was way too much low. Not accurate.
geralmente professores de línguas aqui falam devagar pra tornar um pouco mais compreensível, todavia em Portugal se fala mais rápido.
Exactly. I'm Brazilian as well and nobody speaks too slowly.
I'm not sure I'd call myself a polyglot, but I have had lessons in Portuguese (Brazilian), Spanish (Latino), German, Italian and Mandarin. But of all the countries I visited, Brazil was the place where they really helped me learn their language. I felt almost every Brazilian I met was my teacher. Now, wherever I am, if someone is speaking Brazilian, even if it's at the other end of a busy train carriage, I notice it straight away. Also, to me, the Brazilian accent sounds like happiness. ❤🇧🇷
Spanish comes from Latin. So it's wrong calling your variant "latino". The correct way is Latin American Spanish or just name the country. Greetings from Latin America
Essa é a diferença! Descreveu bem. Nós brasileiros temos o prazer e a paciência para ajudar o gringo a falar nosso idioma. Não ficamos entediados pelos erros, ao contrário, achamos fofo e nos disponibilizamos a ensinar da melhor forma possível. isto é, deixando a pessoa confortável.
Também sou apaixonada pela nossa versão do português. Mas não fale isso com os portugueses, eles odeiam saber que o "brasileiro" é mais falado que o idioma "raiz".
@@mep6302 while I understand your point of view, I would gently disagree as "latino" has become a term synonymous in the US and Canada for Latin Americans. Although from the view from Latin America, there is no such thing as a "Latin American Spanish", as each country has it's own take on Spanish, or better yet, Castilian.
@@DayaEngler isso, sou um estudante estrangeiro (da Jamaica) no Brasil agora mesmo que tá aprendendo português or 11 meses desde março do ano passado. Mesmo ainda tenho um pouco..medo a falar e vergonha mas os brasileiros são normalmente permanecem pacientes comigo.
In large parts of Brazil, "O senhor" and "A senhora" is the right polite way to address an older person you do not know or a customer or... Not just in the south...
Everywhere I've been to in Brazil is the same, older folks always get called "o senhor/a senhora".
“O senhor/a senhora” are used for older people and in a situation of absolute formality, in all Brasil
aqui onde moro também chamamos de "Dona"
Not just in that situation. I'd address a 19-year-old policeman as "o senhor", for example.
That would also be very acceptable in Portugal.
13:47 a palavra Baptismo e batismo estão invertidos, no Brasil usamos Batismo
Vdd
Bring honest acho que aqui em Portugal também é sem "p", depois do novo acordo ortográfico, mas não tenho acerteza
@@dinisbastos5806 sim tens razão
@@dinisbastos5806 Portugal não quis aceitar o acordo ortográfico
@@kaizennojujutsu6134 Portugal sim aceitou, salvo um par de jornais, nas escolas se ensina a reforma ortográfica
The sound of "shhh" in Rio is because of the heavy influence of the Portugal's royal family. When the Portuguese royal family moved to Rio in 1808, fleeing from Napoleon, they brought 16,000 Portuguese. The city had 50,000 inhabitants. All these people changed the way of speaking in Rio de Janeiro.
As a carioca, while it is a popular theory, I am not so sure about that.
For one, the sh also exists in other places such as Belém, Recife and Manaus, as well as in old dialects deep into the country as far as Goiás and Mato Grosso. For another, no one has ever proven people in Rio de Janeiro didn't already pronounce Portuguese like that.
Throughout the Latin world, the Latin /s/ had an originally apical pronunciation that still exists in northern Portugal and northern Spain, from the Douro to Catalonia. French loanwords with /s/ into English often were written as sh (push comes from pousser).
The reason why /s/ was shifted to laminal in most dialects is it merged with the c/ç phoneme, which initially represented /ts/. First c/ç became laminal s while s/ss stayed apical, then both turned laminal.
This didn't happen in Trás-os-Montes, where both Portuguese and Astur-Leonese (Mirandese) use the same consonants of the Late Medieval Age. It also wasn't how northern and central Spanish mutated, with ts shifting to a th sound. In the coast of northern Portugal and in Catalonia, both shifted to apical instead.
A possible reason why it survived so long in Iberia is the distinction is also present in Basque (which influences the other languages due to sprachbund effect) and it is a much deeper part of the language. And a possible reason why Brazilian Portuguese phonology could reflex those phonological processes is... Tupi s is retroflex (it also sounds like sh, kinda) while Tupi ç (as in çuçuarana) probably was pronounced as ts back then. So basically, part of the phonological development in Rio de Janeiro could just be from our very early Lusitanisation.
Elsewhere in Brazil... People just kept speaking língua geral paulista and Nheengatu until the language was far more "modern", and I believe both línguas gerais have a less complex phonology than Old Tupi.
“Shhh” is annoying anyway 😆
@@LillianKüstenfeuer it's not, I wouldn't speak any other way :)
Eochiado de Florianúpolis vem de onde?
@@FernandoCosta-qw7gx esse é dos açorianos, mesmo
Both versions of Portuguese are beautiful. Brazilian Portuguese is not only more understandable to me, a native Spanish speaker, it’s also more similar as well. The verb conjugation for example. (Estou a comer/estou comendo/estoy comiendo)
In Portuguese Portuguese, you can say either way: "estou a comer" or "estou comendo", but people prefer the use, both orally and in writing "estou a comer" (which Brazilians don't use at all). Gerund in Portugal is used more as a conjuction rather than a verb tense (ex: "comendo sopa, eu alimento-me" = "by (or "because I am") eating soap, I feed myself".
@@imaginaryvoncroy1000 Talk to some Alentejo people and see your theory get under the water... I know what I mean!
Ninguém fala “estou comendo”, falamos “tô comendo”
Portugal também usa o gerúndio, todavia em outras regiões menos conhecidas
@@viktor7208 Em Portugal, que eu saiba, toda a gente conhece o Alentejo, mas sim, o português de lá não é tão conhecido no estrangeiro...
I learned Portuguese in Brasil and always had a hard time understanding Portuguese from Portugal. I think it would be fun if you compared the different regions of Brasil. When I went to Manaus, I felt like I had to relearn Portuguese. Primarily it think it would be great to compare the Paulistas, Carioca, Nordeste, Gaucho and Norte.
Eita, minha Manaus! Ao menos a estadia foi agradável mesmo tendo que lidar com muitas palavras diferentes? 🤣😅
Which part of Nordeste though? every region is a whole world of accents
@@joatanpereira4272 exactly the comment I was about to read hahahaha Even here in NE(I'm from Paraíba) we have too many diferences between our pronunciations
@@canalmagno Da Paraíba pra o Sul da Bahia já é algo extremamente diferente por exemplo kkkkkkkk
You came to Manaus? Wow, ppl never seem to travel by here, but how difficult was it to you? Lol
As a native speaker I don't really hear any difference
As a Spaniard I am surprised to realize that Brazilian Portuguese is easier for me to understand than the Portugal 's variety. Seeing is believing!
Most probably due to the less 'complex' vocalic phonology. Portugueses varieties are more similar to Catalan pronunciations.
I would say, as a brazilian who has no formal training in spanish, it does not surprise me at all, because it also is easier for me to understand latin america spanish than “spanish” spanish. And I do prefer referring to Spanish language as Castellano.
I'm Brazilian and I understand Spanish better than Portugal's Portuguese.
Because they speak slow....
@@lemigliard I would like to watch you get around in Portugal and in Spain to test that theory of yours. Disparates odiosos 🤣
As a native Spanish speaker I can understand 70% of Brazil's Portuguese...but the one from Portugal....well that is another story!
Nós brasileiros tmb temos dificuldade pra entender alguns portuguese kkkkk
Realmente , sou brasileiro e entender o Cristiano Ronaldo falando É bem difícil e quando ele fala rápido aí não dá para entender quase nada
Nem eu que sou brasileira entendo o'que eles falam lol
@@lalla160 Isso é porque és burrrrraaaaa XDDDD
@@henryavery4461 Não, além de vocês falarem muito rápido, deixam algumas letras mudas. E nós não somos videntes não
Eu estou aprendendo Brasilian Portugués! Eu espero viajar para o Brasil em breve. Obrigado por sue video.
saudações do Brasil 🇧🇷☺️🙏🏻👍🏻
Português
Se vc gosta de sua vida não venha, aqui é um país governado por gente da pior espécie, andamos na rua com medo de sermos assaltados
@@KPC60000 falou tudo
@@KPC60000 credo
I studied Brazilian Portuguese por almost 3 years, as a native Spanish speaker it came by so easily, but I would love it if someone made a video comparing other Portuguese spoken in different countries like Angola or one of the other 7 Portuguese speaking countries.
São mais parecidos com o de Portugal
@@Carlos___ Também acho. Eles foram colônias de Portugal até a pouco tempo e foram influenciados mais do que nós.
Ola ser/estar 12 anos velho
QUÃO velho você é
Sou brasileiro e penso que seu português é muito bom.
Irmão Fabiano
Valeu!
Nunca vi penso substituindo acho dessa forma. Parece tradução literal de think
@@pedromotta4231 tive um professor de filosofia que sempre falava e encorajava os alunos dele a falar "eu penso" ao invés de "eu acho". pq "achar" tem uma conotação de dúvida, diferente de "pensar".
eu acho que sim... (mas não tenho certeza)
eu penso que sim. (eu raciocinei que sim, cheguei a esta conclusão)
@@pedromotta4231 foi oq eu pensei ksksksksksk tbm achei estranho
I speak English and Spanish and currently learning BP. I couldnt stand the Carioca/Rio de Janeiro accent and thought it was extreme with its aspirations. But when I heard the Sao Paulo dialect and the SP countryside dialect, I fell in love. As a spanish speaker, the SP accent felt more musical and the constanants werent eaten. I decided to learn BP in the way of the São Paulo accent and im throroughly enjoying it. I also like the way the people of Minas Gerais speak, as well as the Curitba accent. I wanted to learn Curitibano Brazilian Portuguese but my Brazilian friends told me that was akin to foreigners wanted to learn english in a strong midwestern accent.
This is correct. Also, due to the polish immigrants, the way people in Curitiba will pronounce D and T and some other letters is kinda funny for the rest of us.
I'm reading Short Stories in Brazilian Portuguese now, and feel like I'm getting a much better grasp of reading the language! I love the Brazilian pronunciations, muito intencao! Emocao!
Just a friendly correction from a Brazilian:
"muitA intenção".
Intenção (and emoção too) is a feminine word, so it demands an "a" at the end of the pronoun.
;)
You are right! Partly because, as an example, you don't differentiate questions from statements grammatically, in Portuguese. It depends on intonation only! So you really have to act it out a little, so to speak... the sentence for "don't I need money?" and "I don't need money" is the same: Eu não preciso de dinheiro (?). Not a good thing if you get it wrong...
What else I see that people outside have difficulty with my country is the slang that each place is very different
Rapariga em Portugal e moça, no Brasil e mulher da vida.
As someone who speaks French, I find that Brazilian Portuguese is easier to understand. Back in 2013 I spent a month in Lisbon and even towards the end I could hardly understand anything, I was so completely lost lol (wasn't there to learn the language to be clear). Someone there said that European Portuguese sounds like a drunken Russian person trying to speak Spanish 😁 I actually like both, they sound interesting in a different way and it's a language I would love to be able to speak.
Thanks for sharing
Even Spanish speakers find Brazilian easier, Although I've found that Angolan is even easier, still. I've already learned Portuguese and gotten used to Brazilian Portuguese at this point, though.
@@JVerde853 You mean Angolan Portuguese, right? I hope you don't find it offensive, that's not my goal, I was wondering what do you mean by Angolan? But I got your point!
@@nzinga-san8459 yes, Angolan Portuguese
Don’t get yourself foolish, Brazilians don’t speak like that woman in this video, syllable by syllable, we speak fast and it’s very common “eat” syllable to say many words. Also we do a lot “contractions” forms, saying two words as a one. 👍🏻
I'm italian. For me brazilian accent is much easier to understand
Italian has some influence in Brazilian Portuguese
@@nadoio brazilians really love their vowels, while portuguese cut them off a lot
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yes, because its as annoying as Italian.
Amigos portugueses, ananás e abacaxi são a mesma fruta. O que diferencia, na verdade, é que o ananás é um abacaxi cultivado em regiões mais frias, especificamente no sul do Brasil, e possui um tempo de maturação diferente (a fruta possui tamanho menor e é menos doce). Já o abacaxi, o que é maior, provém de regiões mais tropicais, leva menos tempo para ficar maduro e é mais doce
Ananás é sinônimo de abacaxi ou vice-versa, só que não é um termo usado no Brasil, "abacaxi" é o popular, ou o que "pegou". Tem gente em sites espalhando essa "explicação" (diferenciação) mas chamam abacaxi na França por "ananás", apenas o termo não "pegou" no Brasil (fui suprimido pelo outro que se tornou popular).
@@robertolucena9253 isso. Até porque o original é abacaxi, vem de língua indígena. Pra que raios chamar de ananás? Hahaha
Temos as 2 palavras cá em Portugal. Prefiro o abacaxi porque é mais pequenino e doce do que o ananás.
Aqui em Minas ananas é um abacaxi selvagem e bem pequeno
Obrigado Viktor. Sempre tive essa dúvida ahahah um grande abraço de Portugal!
Non portuguese speakers love brazilian portuguese, because it is easy to understand. But as for me, a mozambican, i love the way portuguese people speak. It is lovely
Me too. Very elegant, and only the haters put it down. AKA Brazilians💀😂😂😂😂
Olá ,meu irmão Moçambicano, falaste tudo, obrigado! Eu gosto muito dos países africanos onde se fala o Português! Abraço
I think I like European Portuguese more in terms of the words and pronunciation. (I am a native English speaker) but I like how flexible Brazilian Portuguese is in terms of word usage, verbing etc
the video we all needed. I’m glad that EU-PT has getting more attention as of late with more a lot more resources and accessibility
European Portuguese pronunciation is also the standard model in Africa and Asia, not just in Portugal though the vocabulary might differ, of course and some speakers there sometimes speak with an accent influenced by local languages.
Cus they got colonized later.
@@TheZenytram because they were the same country until 1975......
@@TheZenytram We know why. It wasn’t a question
@@TheZenytram We weren’t asking for an explanation as to why. Don’t care about the why. Just noting the difference.
All Portuguese language outside of Portugal is from colonization.
We portuguese is a portuguese looks like 1500
brazilian portuguese and portuguese differences are like English America and British, both Portuguese and British speak in a more formal way, while English US and Brazilian Pt speak in a way that is more wide open.
Está mais para um inglês americano e um inglês escocês, é mais fácil entender um argentino falando espanhol que um português de porto
@@not3851 só isso explica a tua formação escolar (agradeça ao Paulo Freire), porque os brasileiros com formação académica, e graduação e mestrados entendem sem qualquer problema o português de Portugal, vocês viveram numa espécie de isolamento linguistico sem qualquer contacto com outras variantes de português fora do Brasil.
@@Luzitanium não cara, o português da Angola e países africanos da pra entender claramente, os de outras regiões de Portugal também. É alguma coisa específica com o jeito dos portugueses de porto falar que faz ficar difícil pra os Brasileiros
@@not3851 não é isso que os brasileiros dizem, vocês dizem que o portuguêsa africano é mais parecido com o de Portugal, ou então é puro preconceito vosso o que não é de admirar.
@@Luzitanium Nenhum brasileiro que conheço diz isso, absolutamente nenhum. Não posso falar pelos outros, mas quem eu conheço todos concordam que a única dificuldade de entender português é o do pessoal da região do Porto em Portugal. Tanto que o rei do kuduro faz um sucesso absurdo no Brasil com o português engraçado que ele criou, é engraçado e fácil de compreender mesmo ele falando "errado" do jeito engraçado dele.
Até hoje só vi brasileiro ter problema de compreensão com os portugueses de Porto, tanto que todos canais de portuga que assisto, nunca tive problema de entender, mas quando é um de um português do porto eu sofro a ponto de ter q tirar da vel 2x
It was a pleasure taking part in this video 😊 thanks Olly!
Parabéns pela participação neste vídeo. Gostei bastante de a ouvir e falou de uma forma muito natural e simultaneamente profissional.
Your English is insane
@@PortugalForYou muito obrigada pelas palavras gentis 🥰
@@Naguimar thank you ☺️ although I think there’s always room for improvement 🤪
@@portuguesewithcarla eu treino falar inglês a muitos anos e quando ouvi fiquei de boca aberta. Não conseguia acreditar quão bom era. 👏👏
Yah, I only learned European Portuguese because my mom was born south of Lisbon, and didn't quite realize what the differences were until later. To me, I do like European Portuguese more just because it sounds more natural to me
Portuguese here | somethings are pronounced in different regions of Portugal. Even the systematic use of the gerund... in my region ("Alentejo" ) we use it like the Brazilians...even being a small country we have a wide diversity of accents and pronunciations...
Portugal is not a small country but medium in size and big in history.
Eu mesmo nem sei o que é Alentejo kkkk
@@Craft07 O Alentejo é uma região de Portugal tal como é o Algarve ou a Madeira.
@@frapiment6239 Portugal é pequeno sim em território.
Um país médio seria como a espanha ou frança.
@@maverick767 Portugal é um Pais médio tanto a nível mundial como Europeu. No mundo há quase tantos paises menores como maiores e na Europa é o 18 maior entre 52 do continente. Portugal tem o dobro do tamanho da Holanda ou da Irlanda, a mesma superficie da Austria ou Hungria e é pouco menor que a Inglaterra. A França é já considerado um País de grandes dimensões portanto vamos para com essa falsa propaganda.
I am from Argentina and I am learning portuguese from Brazil because it is easier for me
And it’s closer to you
The Brazilian woman exaggerates the pronunciation of each word, it's quite obvious!! People don't speak like that normally. Brazilians also shorten words just not as much as the Portuguese.
Depende de qual região é a pessoa , tem regiões q realmente as pessoas falam desse jeito , não é forçado é somente o sotaque da pessoa
@@pedepano5408 ele tá falando dela enfatizar como
"seiscentaS asaS azuis"
Enquanto qualquer brasileiro falaria
"seiscenta zasa zazuis"
Gente ela apenas está falando devagar pra mostrar a diferença , pelo menos aqui nós falamos rapido , eu mesmo acho que uma pessoa aprendendo português não entenderia eu falando se eu falasse sem ser devagar
@@justagirl3222 mas se a intenção era mostrar como se fala no Brasil, ela deveria realmente falar como se fala e nao de uma outra forma
@@huynalmarsegundo5715 vdd , mas enfim né kkk
Cada vez mais eu gosto dos dois....o Português que é mais polido e o brasileiro que é mais envolvente. Saber os dois abre as portas em cada um dos 2 países e mostra de certa forma um respeito e um conhecimento avançado de cada cultura. Aprendam e se atualizem sempre com as duas versões. Beijinhos.
Lucas - Espectacular !... 👍
Brasil o português mais polido só pode ser piada.😂
@@luka583 mermao o cara falou q pt pt e mais polido e pt br e mais envolvente
@@luka583 Volta pra escola seu animal !
@@luka583 Ja vi q tu 0deia o Brasil né, sai dessa mano, somos seus filhos kkkkkk
As a Mexican, Brazilian Portuguese sounds so nice and elegant, the way they pronounce the T like in “sete” “leite” it’s so cute, Portuguese from Portugal for me sounds like Spanish with a weird accent
It's a coincidence boz Spanish in Mexico is way much better to understand clear than for example in Argentina ; but also we can understand.
Sua língua é muito linda
a América Latina fez muito bem às línguas ibéricas, mi hermano mexicano
😅😅😅😅😅
Oh, don't worry; as an European Portuguese speaker who is fluent in Spanish with an European accent, my least favourite variety of Spanish is the Mexican one. Way too slow and retarded-sounding.
In Portugal, we also use "o senhor/a senhora", among other forms, when we want to be formal, instead of just using "você", which we tend to avoid. "Ordenar" can also mean "to give orders" ("dar ordens") in Portugal - apart from also meaning "to put something in order/organise" ("organizar"). That "se sinta em casa" bit was totally off. In Portugal we'd say "sinta-se em casa" (imperative) and, for example, "quero que você se sinta em casa", because of words like "que". In Brazil it would be the same. It depends on the sentence. In Portugal, "abacaxi" is a variety of "ananás" ("pineapple"). We also say "fila" ("queue") in Portugal nowadays, exactly to avoid confusion with "bicha" ("poofter"), we can also mean "queue". In Portugal, "sorvete" is probably a somewhat more old-fashioned word, but it usually refers to a ice cream on a stick, rather than ice cream balls in a cone ("gelado"). "Xícara" can also be used in Portugal. Probably more towards the north of the country. "Perceber" is a synonym of "entender/compreender" in Portugal or even "perceive", also in Portugal we'd probably say "percepcionar" in this context, whereas Brazilians would probably prefer "perceber". Both words derive from the same Latin root, anyway. "Canalha" is very much used in Portugal in the exact same sense as it is used in Brazil. Although rare nowadays, "trem" can also mean "train" in Portugal. "Baptismo" is no longer written, nor pronounced, in either country. "Batismo" is the sole spellingn now, unfortunately. "Só um minutinho" has the exact same meaning/use in Portugal. It's written "foi mau" because it's an adjective, not an adverb. I feel the slang words that the girl from Portugal chose are very unoriginal and boring, as we have so many slang words and expressions. I also think that you've given the Brazilian lady way more airtime in the segment about slang. You've clearly shown a preference for the Brazilian variant - which is totally fine, by all means, I just feel that such a video ought to have been impartial (and I'd say this regarding any language).
I think fila can be older than bicha in Portugal.
@@sosprichtportugal Fila is the proper word even in Portugal. Bicha, although generally used and accepted, is slang.
@@manu.francisco Fila e Bicha não são sinónimos. Fila é a disposição nos cinemas, Bicha é as pessoas umas atrás das outras como numa "queue".
A diferença entre gelado e sorvete é que o primeiro tem leite e o segundo tem água.
I have been studying and I'm still learning but Brazilian Portuguese because when I saw the lady speak Portuguese from Portugal there was lots of words that I did not recognize but I do like a Brazilian Portuguese because of they pronounce all the words and it's very easy to understand them when they speak and I like the accent because it's more open.
yes, not to mention that Brazil has more content to watch and read than Portugal, which makes studying more enjoyable.
I totally disagree. If you're going to learn a language, you should try to learn that harder variant. Doing so will make it easier for you to understand all the other variants.
I am a Portuguese but I also can understand very easily all brasilians, angolans ... The same is not true with Brazilians. Once I visited brazil but a good lot of people had difficulty to understand me but I could understand every single word they said. To talk to them I just used a similar accent.
And because of how informal brasilian portuguese tends to be you will be more prepared to speak in a work enviroment with the portuguese from Portugal.
@@franciscocarvalho8018 I disagree with your comment. There’s formal registers of the Brazilian portuguese as well. Maybe you're familiar with informal versions of the language. I'm Brazilian myself, and lived for three years in Portugal. There people would ask me ”how come do you speak Portuguese so well, you don't sound like Brazilians, or you've learned Portuguese really well”, because many don't even consider our language Portuguese, they call it ”brasileiro” and I would just replay ”there are different varieties of the language in Brazil. " On TH-cam you can find a lot of kinds of contents in Brazilian Portuguese, covering different subjects from politics to philosophy. So, please, don't underestimate us. By the way, I LOVE Portugal. 💙
@@franciscocarvalho8018 For beginners I think Brazilian Portuguese is better because you will progress faster. But after I learn Brazilian Portuguese I will study the Portuguese accent from Portugal too.
@@meergoedemuziek
Madam, I had a maid that was also from Brazil and, in the beginning she had some difficulties in understanding what we meant.
But she now speaks like a native Portuguese.
But it took a long time for that to be possible.
Because of how different our accents are it is pretty normal for you to miss some word or to don't understand us.
I am not saying that you don't have great content.
I read a good quantity of news from your side of the Atlantic.
I am just saying that it would be beneficial for someone that is trying to learn a language to learn a variant that is harder so it becomes easier to learn other accents.
A questão do "r" muda muito no Brasil, afinal cada região pronuncia de maneira diferente.
Nem só o R, esse txi dxi no meu estado não se usa.
Verdade são muitas as variedades do "r" no Brasil
As a Brazilian who has many Portuguese friends in the UK, I appreciate all accents and their beauty and unique words and slang. While Brazilian accents in general might be easier for speakers of other languages to understand, there are Brazilian regional and rural accents that can be very difficult to understand. I would give it a good thought before choosing which variety of Portuguese you want to learn as the style is different. If you intend on speaking mostly with Portuguese speakers from Africa and Portugal, obviously I would go with European Portuguese. Being honest though Brazilian Portuguese has many more speakers and there are Brazilians pretty much everywhere. It might also be more useful for business, depending on what you work with.
O Português é uma língua fantástica 🇵🇹🇵🇹
Sim 🇧🇷😃👍🏻
vdd 🇧🇷
@@jonaslourenco5526 vcs são foda kkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@anacaroline1777 kkkkk 🤣 valeu 🙏🏻👍🏻
Sim verdade meu mano
I remember falling in love with Portuguese (the Brazilian version) when I first watched the movie "Fast Five". However, a coupls of years ago, I don't even remember how, I heard the European version and since then it has got all my love! Portuguese is the most beautiful language and I am so happy that I have taken it for 2 years in university, even though my teachers were not that great.
Same here. Started with Brazilian, but lately I've listened to a lot of European portuguese, and I love it so much. It's not hard once you get used to it.
Being the child of Portuguese parents From the Azores, I grew up in a household w/ Brazilian soap operas and Continental tv (RTP). I'd have have to lean towards the Continental style.
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As a Portuguese person, I'd say that in European Portuguese the L is clearly there (we just don't pronounce it longer because it has no E after it), while in Brasil they convert the L into an U.
We all convert the L into something else. Here's how people pronounce the word 'EVIL'.
'MAL' in Spanish is pronounced 'MAL' (
@@ramg2112 while I do agree, I'm really talking about L as the deaf sound L, without vowels. In European Portuguese, it is there. When we say the alphabet in Portuguese, L, the deaf sound of the tongue reaching just behind the teeth. I'd say that it is more common that at the end of the words European Portuguese will have that sound, while Brazilian Portuguese tends to exchange that L sound to a sonorized counterpart U sound.
I can't comment on Minas Gerais' particular accent, as it might be more pronounced than other states in Brazil, but for the most part, the L gets sonorized in Brazilian pronunciation.
Have a fantastic night,
from a Portuguese man in Maia, Portugal.
@@ramg2112 Mal in European Portuguese, at least in the north, it's more like MAH-L, more than MAWL, and in a more Carioca fashion, it, to me, sounds more like MAU-(L) (soft L when spoken more quietly and almost inaudible at normal tone) for the Brazilian pronunciation counterpart.
@@vladlu6362 Well it could be in northern dialects of Portuguese. But the standard is in Lisbon's dialect.
The same could be said to the Brazilian woman in the video that speaks with a southeastern dialect. Pronouncing D and T as Dj and Tc. Something that does not happen in Southern and northeastern dialects of Brazilian Portuguese.
@@jackyex Well, in fact, European Portuguese's default dialect is NOT the Lisbon one, since only Coimbra and Lisboa have it. Everywhere else it's just the Northern accent, which is much more stress timed and short vowel than Lisbon's one. No politician speaks with the Lisbon accent, it's mostly the youth that speaks like that.
Eu gosto mais do português do Brasil. Eu sou do sudeste dos E. U., onde o sotaque de inglês me parece semelhante ao sotaque brasileiro.
Você fala português ou usou o Google tradutor?
@@SuperGHOSTBAD Falo português
Sempre me disseram que meu sotaque (caipira) facilitava a aprendizagem do inglês americano. Os R são muito parecidos com o sotaque sulista daí mesmo.
@@ghewins uau, como você aprendeu ?
@@ktaedear Comecei anos atrás com uma novela portuguesa com legendas em português, seguido por muitos e muitos vídeos brasileiros no TH-cam
I’m a native European-Portuguese speaker. Some of the expressions I prefer from European-Portuguese but some other expressions I prefer Brazilian-Portuguese. 🇵🇹💛🇧🇷
Acho mt lindo o Brasileiro Europeu falado em portugal hahahahah
Quem dera houvessem programas portugueses na TV brasileira. Seria uma troca maior. Os que há são adaptações de grande obras literárias, na Globo, mas com sotaque brasileiro.
@@KielBrito quem dera nada... Deus me livre 🤣🤣🤣 já basta as novelas mexicanas e turcas...
Deveríamos fazer uma amálgama das duas versões para ser a variação suprema, ou versão-mór da língua!
Pode dar exemplos das expressões que você prefere em PT-BR e PT-PT? :)
I'm waiting for Portuguese Uncovered!
Coming in September!
What's a Portuguese Uncovered?
I'm not nudist I like to be covered
Luciana was great at providing the BP pronunciation for the example dialogues, but I can't avoid but think that showcasing more BP accents from other regions of the country could've been more effective at highlighting the differences in pronunciation between BP and EP, especially when it comes to the letters 'R' and 'S' 👍
Exactly, the way she pronounced "t" and "d" as chee and djee is very foreign in many northeastern states.
Nesse caso, precisaria fazer o mesmo com Portugal. É complicado incluir tantas as variações.
Para os Portugueses em Portugal é muito fácil entender o Português que os Brasileiros falam ou diferentes variações Língua Portuguesa d pois sempre tivemos contacto com o Português falado no Brasil e de outros Países ou Regiões (desde os finais dos anos 70, por causa das telenovelas e filmes que eram exibidos em Portugal). No entanto a maioria dos meus amigos Brasileiros que vivem cá e por toda a Europa dizem que quando têm o primeiro contacto com o Português Europeu não nos percebem / entendem ( mas existem excepções) um grande abraço desde 🇵🇹❤️
Ola João! Legal o comentario, voce tem razao! Nunca tive muita dificuldade por estar mais habituado aos sons schwa e aos chiados cariocas e tambem por acompanhar alguns canais portugueses por vezes e isso ajuda-me a ajustar os ouvidos as diferentes variantes da lingua. Gostaria de fazer uma pequena pergunta, se nao se importa. Em que situacoes o verbo entender seria usado em Portugal? se puder dar-me exemplos por favor. Forte abraço !!
@@mrcios2733 "Eu estou a entender o que estás a dizer" , "Eu entendi o que disseste" "Entendo que não querias entender" "Tu entendes aquilo que estás a dizer?" "Nós entendemos que tu não entendas" "Vós entendestes o que quis dizer?" São alguns exemplos.
@@hugomiguel8293 Muito obrigado! Abraço!!!
Como um brasileiro, concordo com a sua afirmação. Por aqui normalmente temos contato apenas com as contribuições históricas de Portugal à formação dos costumes brasileiros, de forma que a cultura portuguesa atual fique pouco difundida. Seria muito gratificante se nós lusófonos pudéssemos ser mais amigáveis uns com os outros, ao contrário da imagem que vemos atualmente de um povo tentando provar ser superior ao outro, seja nos costumes ou na linguagem.
@@mrcios2733 é um significado de perceber ou compreender, o Hugo Miguel explicou de uma forma bastante clara isso mesmo. Um abraço desde Lisboa
Tanto para os brasileiros quanto para os portugueses o importante é que eles se compreendem quando vão visitar os paises irmãos. Pois se um brasileiro for morar em Portugal ele vai absorver o sotaque portugues em alguns anos e vice versa! Também é possível perceber a diferença facilmente do sotaque dos Americanos nortistas em relação aos Americanos sulistas!
The amount of difference between Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese is about the same between American English and British English, spanning across vocabulary, pronunciation, intonation, writing, etc, in both language pairs. I speak both proficiently, so I can tell.
Hmmm, não, a diferença é um pouco maior.
@@viktor7208 não é necessariamente. Deve estar pensando na versão padrão da língua, ou inglês RP. Na verdade, se poderia argumentar que dialetos britânico-irlandeses são ainda mais distintos de americanos que português brasileiro e português ibérico. Alguns dialetos escoceses tem nível de inteligibilidade baixíssima entre americanos.
@@VDCization Exacto! As pessoas pensam que no RU todos falam com o sotaque RP quando na verdade, é apenas uma pequena minoria e a variedade de sotaques dentro do próprio RU é enorme
Both accents are beautiful. Same language
Not accents because there is no Brazilian accent, it's like saying Italian accent, which one? Sicilian? Neapolitan? Florentine?
Loving the vid, it's really interesting to watch as a non- Portugûes speaker.
thanks!
I'm actually from a Portuguese family, so I can *mostly* understand what both your friends here are saying, because I grew up in a city where the language was casually around every day. However a lot of the particulars here are new to me because neither the Portugal nor Brazil dialects were common where I grew up. It was mostly all immigrants from sao miguel. So basically it was the same thing, only different.
Creio que poderei escrever em Português.
São Miguel é uma ilha fabulosa, tal como o resto dos açores.
Mas o vocabulário das ilhas é bem mais parecido com o lisboeta do que com o brasileiro, não acha?
Brazil dialects* there is no such thing as a brazilian dialect, it's huge
@@ricardopontes7177
Tem razão.
São vários.
Mesmo assim creio que estou correto.
@@franciscocarvalho8018 os estrangeiros pensam que todos os brasileiros falam como falam paulistas, a pronuciar "t" e "d" como "tch" e "dj", em Recife por exemplo, a pronúncia do t, d e s é igual a de Portugal
@@ricardopontes7177
Olhe, dessa não sabia.
Abacaxi e Ananás são duas frutas diferentes. Em Portugal sabemos a diferença. Abacaxi normalmente é importado da América do Sul e bastante mais barato que o Ananás.
O abacaxi é bastante mais doce que o Ananás. Por cá o Ananás mais consumido é o produzido nos Açores. Na loja tem sempre bem definido o que é Ananás e o que é abacaxi.
Abacaxi e ananás são o mesmo fruto, só muda o local onde é produzido.
Pode pesquisar no google.
I'd love to see a video on the regional pronunciations in Brazil itself. Also very important
There are several accents in Brazil... The country is too big.
É extremamente interessante perceber nossa língua através do olhar do outro - brasileira de São Paulo, aqui. Existe formalidade no Brasil, sim. Mas o espaço de seu uso é mais restrito. Conforme a situação profissional, é bom usar “senhor” e “senhora” como forma de tratamento. Por outro lado, os corações idosos, nas relações pessoais, ficam felizes quando são chamados de “você”
I'm Brazilian and I have never ever heard about "Fada sensata" before 16:20. But other than that, interesting video, many of the shown Portugal's Portuguese words were unknown to me.
This word is not widespread, it is used mostly in some political and ideological bubbles on the internet.
Is more an Internet thing
@Artur Bruen Rosin To morrendo kkkkk (mas nao literalmente, diferente do Olavo)
Neither have I ! Guess it's womanly stuff..
Yeah, wtf? “Sensible fairy” lol
São formas ligeiramente diferentes de pronunciar o idioma... tal como acontece com o Inglês do Reino Unido e Austrália, tal como acontece com e Espanhol de Espanha ou o Espanhol dos países da América Latina ( quel fala espanhol) É somente uma questão de educação/ querer ser o mais correcto possível ( sendo que todas as formas estao correctas ) e acrescento de que pelo menos os Portugueses em Portugal percebemos as diferentes variações de Português ( Seja de Angola, Brasil, Cabo Verde, Guiné Bissau, Guiné, Macau, Moçambique, São Tomé e Principe, Timor Leste ) Em Portugal tentamos sempre ajudar e perceber as diferentes pronúncias do Português de uma forma tranquila e sem julgamentos ( e podem acreditar que embora Portugal seja um país pequeno temos v arias pronúncias ( incluino as regiões autonomas dos Açores e Madeira ) ... Vamos ser felizes e viver a vida de uma forma descomplicacada! Se nao for fácil perceber o Português, pode sempre pedir para repetir a frase calmamente... equalquer pessoa que fale Português ( seja em que " versão de português/ país de origem da língua portuguesa teremos muito gosto em ajudar ( Pelo menos em Portugal fazemos isso ) Mas acima de tudo todos nós que falamos Português devemos ter muito orgulho em falar a nossa lingua, indepentemente da pronúncia / sotaque ou país/ região ondeusamos o Português:)
Both languages and accents are AMAZING!!!!!!
Eu já me acostumei ao sotaque do português europeu. É lindo. Vejo muito vídeos do #Euronews em português e convenhamos, é uma delícia. Deveríamos consumir mais da música, filmes e séries de Portugal!!! #BrasilPortugal somos irmãos.
Ta é doido kkkkkk portugues e carioca falando é muito irritante kkkkk
Aconselho a série "pôr do sol" que está na RTP play :) muito boa, engraçada, e com marcas da cultura portuguesa atual
Também gosto de ouvir o de Portugal. Parece que os tugas tá pedindo beijo lkkkkkk
@@1234592706 Então tá fazendo aqui o quê?
Ouve Ana Moura. É só alma
as I am both PT and BR, I really need to say one thing: the "t" and "d" sounding as "ch" and "j" is not a general "Brazilian" feature at all, this happens in some regions only, in many other states (mostly northeast) the pronunciation is just like in Portugal ("s" as "x", closed "t" - tea - and "d" - dee). I see foreigners constantly making this mistake, and to be be honest, it is very problematic to say there is a Brazilian Portuguese because the dialectical changes vary so much due to the size of the country, the way that woman speaks in the video does not represent the variation I grew up with in Brazil at all (Recife dialect).
*it is very problematic to say there is a Brazilian Portuguese because the dialectical changes vary so much due to the size of the country*
But even in Portugal dialectical changes also vary a lot from region to region. People from Lisbon (like Carla) speak very differently than people from Northern Portugal - Lisbon Portuguese is stress-timed, whereas Northern Portuguese is most of the times syllable-timed. Even the vowels, sibilants and slang are different...
Thank you. Idk why people who is learning Brazilian Portuguese force themselves to pronounce de D and T sound like G and CH when they can just speak the original sound of it
@@diogorodrigues747 Imagine being represented by supposedly a variant where people from all over the world thinks the "d" and "t" has an uniform sound of "tchee" and "gee", when in reality this is not the case. Today I speak a kind of hybrid Portuguese, because really the so called Brazilian Portuguese is perceived as a Sao Paulo/Rio Portuguese. As for your take, well, I am aware a tripeiro speaks differently from someone from Lisbon or Alenteijo for that matter, but the difference here is dialects that developed thousands of miles away from each other, in the past, each hereditary captaincy (later on states), had its own culture and naturally grew up as different "countries" linked to a central power, Recife and its state of Pernambuco for example always was somewhat resistant of belonging to a project called Brazil, so the sheer size and distance helped develop totally different dialects and world views which due to geographical constraints was not as radical in Portugal (because Portugal is a compact country).
@@matheuszord They don't need indeed, they can pronounce as it reads and they will be speaking as anyone from Pernambuco, Paraiba and Alagoas, people really don't speak like that in this area.
@Mateus Alves
Vai sudestino, fala “te critico”
Sudestino: tchicritchico
Belgians when they speak Flemish also say the formal you “U” instead of the informal “jij” often. When they come here to the Netherlands, we also often think it’s weird / funny.
@L'Ephebe93 not quite the typical plural, though, it is a royal you used for the King, in the same fashion of the royal we of other languages. The more general plural is vós outros, later vós. But we don't use that. Almost verywhere Lusophone, we use vocês instead. Portuguese people still use second person plural conjugation (generally, while dropping the pronoun) since vós was still current there when Gen X were young adults, but in Brazil, it has been extinct for centuries. Indeed, a common grammar mistake in everyday speech in Portugal is vocês + second person conjugation, opposite of Brazil's tu + third person conjugation.
I started learning Portuguese a couple of weeks ago and I'm leaning toward the European accent, I enjoy hearing the sound "sh" at the end of many words, it's lovely...
People in Rio de Janeiro speaks with these "sh" sound, too 😀
@@allanapereira8200 and in Recife, Belém, Manaus and the well-established locals of Portuguese background in Florianópolis as well.
I am proud of you. If you need help with any thing just ask. I am so happy that some foreigner wants to learn my language!
@@franciscocarvalho8018 Olá o Francisco, está a aprender o português de Portugal! Eu gostaria ter alguém para practicar com a falar. O senhor gostaria ajudar-me?
@@ZIM626
sir, I would love to help you. First lets correct that sentence.
I will translate to english what, I suppose, you wanted to tell me:
Hello Francis, I am learning european Portuguese! I would like to have someone to practice the speech. Could you help me?
The best way to translate this would be:
Olá Francisco, (Eu) estou a aprender o português Europeu! (Eu) Gostaria de ter alguém para praticar a fala comigo. Poderia ajudar-me?
If you need any help just ask.
If you want to contact me in private please send a mail to:
fxmapc2004@gmail.com
Another difference between brazilian and Portuguese Pronunciation.
Word: money
Portugal:dinheiro
Brazil:djinheiro
Brazilian portuguese sometimes has a "j" Sound between some letters, Especially between the "d" and a Vowel.
Brazil has many different accents. So it's not a rule, there are accents closer to Portuguese, accents with a strong Italian influence like São Paulo. When learning the Brazilian accent, it is necessary to choose the accent of the state, because each state in the country has a different accent.
Brazilian here. I really like the EP accent. Few Brazilians are used to it, though. I remember watching the news a while back and they were interviewing someone from Portugal. They gave it subtitles! Hahaha… I was horrified; there was no need for that. Takes a bit longer to understand what Portuguese people are saying if you hear it for the first time, but nothing too crazy.
I'm Brazilian, and had a few Portuguese teachers in college. It was so hard to understand them that I had to almost exclusively rely on the text books for the subjects they taught.
The Portuguese woman is so charming
Thanks ☺️
S1mp 😂
Você is equalizing in Portugal, one should use tu for close relationships or o senhor/a senhora as a marker of respect. You shouldn't use você in Portugal almost ever. BUT você and o senhor and a senhora work the same in Brazil, throughout the country! People from Northeastern Brazil can be the most tradition-minded.
Tu is used in more parts of Brazil than most people think. You will find it in every region. It is an everyday thing in Rio Grande do Sul, Northeastern Brazil and Pará as well as parts of other states settled by people from those regions (the Rio Grande do Sul diaspora is huge in western Santa Catarina, and throughout the soy belt/beef belt from Mato Grosso do Sul to the new farms encroaching deep into the Amazon). It is also used in Rio de Janeiro and the locals of coastal São Paulo that have been established in there the longest (as opposed to people whose families settled there more recently) but it is much more informal. People in Rio Grande do Sul, Maranhão and Pará often conjugate tu as second person, but it is always just third person in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo. In Northeastern Brazil outside of Maranhão, they conjugate it in a modified form of the second person (tu visse? instead of tu viste? - did you see it?).
Also, baptismo is not a current spelling in Brazil. I wonder if it is used in Portugal, too, because unless they pronounce that p, it has been abolished by the recent Orthographic Reform agreement (which most Portuguese don't really abide to; it unified the spellings in Portugal and Brazil in most words, but by changing it to a Brazilian form half of the time or inventing a new one the other half).
As for the "baptismo" spelling, somebody earlier already pointed out that it was mistakenly attributed to the Brazilian spelling, while it is supposed to be "batismo".
The use of “tu” is widespread in Santa Catarina and in Paraná, but not because of the influence of settlers from Rio Grande do Sul. The seaside of Santa Catarina uses “tu” because of the Azorean Portuguese settlers that came in the 18th century. Many cultural aspects of the three Southern states are wrongly thought to have firstly originated in Rio Grande do Sul and then spread to the other two states, but are as native to Santa Catarina and Paraná as they are from Rio Grande do Sul.
Yes, that p disappeared with the Orthographic Reform. But you can still find "baptismo" written somewhere. Many people write the way they had learned and others don't agree with this Reform because there are some stupid rules that don't follow the orality/pronunciation.
abrasileirada que demos ao nosso português tornou ele tão interessante e especial… pra mim, modéstia à parte, é o idioma mais lindo, seguido do espanhol
Muito legal! I am learning Portuguese on duolingo and find this video extremely helpful
So confusing! :) I'm using five apps on my phone and realized after a while that they seem to contradict each other in pronunciation. That's when I understood that you need to find out what version you're learning. Now I have to unlearn some things!
Thanks for the video! I love the diversity of the Portuguese language ❤️
Olá Eu adoro português brasileiro, eu entendo é fácil 🇧🇷
Então tu é portuguesa no caso?
@Tails 13 sou BR cara
@Tails 13 aqui no brasil não tem frescura, aqui no bairro onde moro quem corrigir alguém leva tiro
@Tails 13 tô ligado.....
@@otaldokaua kkk tu mora na rocinha pros cara te mata man
I'm a native European-Portuguese speaker. First of all, I just want to congratulate you on your videos, they're always so interesting! 😊 I honestly can't believe she said "bicha" in EU-PT when it comes to a "queue". It has such a derogatory meaning behind it (I think it's the same meaning in BR-PT), it's like slang or even foul language. We do say "fila" in EU-PT. 😊
Bicha was used in parts of southern Brasil to mean people in line.
It's funny because the difference between "bicha" in Brazil and Portugal is the most widespread topic in Brazil when people are asked about the differences of the language in both countries. There are many jokes about it. Perhaps, as you said, it's not completely accurate, but for some reason it's the most popular one.
Not entirely true... in some parts of Portugal like Braga (maybe others as well), people say "bicha" for queue. As always, in this kind of topics we tend to generalize but we have many differences depending on the region.
Tbm dizemos bicha ou fila é a mesma coisa
Bicha means queue of people in Portugal and it is still used as such. Its use became less frequent because of the new slang meaning it got.
Some years ago I learned portuguese in Lisboa. So I was used to european portuguese when I visited Rio de Janeiro in the eighties. I was in a nice restaurant in Copacabana and asked the waiter the "ementa". It was very embarassing as he didn't understand at all. So I used an intermediate word: the lista, and he understood. He explained me later that the right word is "cardapio"
Ementa in Brasil is a very rare word to be used, would be more like an abstract, and it is used only by people who works with Laws to refer to the abstract of the sentence of a judge
It’s also used in Portugal cardápio or ementa both common might vary on the region
@@felipebrena6918 ementa is widely used in brazil to refer to a list of topics to study for an examination
Algum português para jogar fortnite?
European Portuguese sounds closer to Castilian (European) Spanish, which is the Spanish I speak and understand best. The Brazilian "d" as in diamante feels strange. Honestly they're both fine dialects of a nice language in the end. I'd like to visit both countries one day. Portugal very soon I expect as it's a bit closer to home.
After getting used to it, it’s super odd to not hear it. Some regions like parts of the state of São Paulo outside the capital don’t use it and they make fun of it a bit. “Leite quente com a gente.”
Well, geographical proximity surely does have something to do with that, but you should try to hear people speaking galician, which is considered by many to be a dialect of the portuguese language. To me, and just like modern portuguese, it's a different variation of the old Galician-portuguese language. You'll be like "wait, that sounds just like portuguese... but is that really portuguese?"
@@CDPF5 I advise you to listen to Galician spoken in the countryside and not Galician spoken in the cities. The first resembles a lot Portuguese, the second sound like Spanish A LOT (and lots of Spanish words are used).
Yeah it sounds like a “d”…
@@diogorodrigues747 I live right next to the galician countryside. The sad thing is that type of galician is mostly used by elderly people and it's a variation that is basically going extinct.
The "L" doesn't disappear in European Portuguese. It goes to the back of the throat as in the word "ill"
And the L in BrasiU is just a U sound and not that weird W that he tried to do.
Yeah, and the Brazilian Portuguese L kind of sounded like the L in the word "told". Kind of like "UL"
In brazilian portuguese that would be an /u/ sound
@@ivetterodriguez1994 it does not, "told " has the pronunciation of "toad" in brasilian accent (for the L at least, that D wouldbbe /dgy/)
Yes, he was incorrect with that one. It's pronounced in Portugal, but not in Brazil.
Thank you for doing this. As a Goan I prefer European Portuguese.
Ayyy fellow Indian
🤨🥶
Perceber entender, a língua é a mesma as palavras também são as mesmas, vai variar de pessoas para pessoas, nem todo brasileiro fala igual assim como nem todo português fala igual!
Por exemplo: Essa moça disse, entendo, mas garanto que muitos outros brasileiros diriam percebo!
O mesmo vale para os portugueses!
O que acontece é que cada país tende a querer mostrar que sabe falar melhor a língua que o outro, e muitas vezes alternam palavras quando na verdade elas têm basicamente o mesmo significado!
Creio que, o que vai diferir sempre são: As girias, sotaques, calão e pronúncias!
Gerundio, Diminutivo e Aumentativo?
Existem em ambas as versões, só que um país finge que não existe e no outro usa-se em excesso!
No final todos se entendem mas as vezes fingem que não!
Ninguém fala percebo como sinonimo de entender no Brasil.
E outra, gerundio pra gente é algo natural, então não tem isso de se usar em excesso.
9:21 the PT and BR versions were switched. PT - "Sinta-se (você) em casa" or the informal "Sente-te (tu) em casa". In BR they almost never conjugate verbs reflexively, although in PT it is considered proper speaking
That's not accurate. Verbs are reflexive in brazilian portuguese, but not verbs like sentar.
@@alovioanidio9770I'm saying, in speaking it is not common for BR speakers to conjugate reflexively, although in PT, the exception is when you do not (negative sentences, conditions and others). Take the phrase "Amo-te (PT)" and "Te amo (BR)"
Carioca Portuguese, especially that which is sung in Bossa Nova and MPB is beautiful to hear. It definitely reflects the shift to the tropics. Continental Portuguese is equally sweet and lyrical but, in my opinion, more refined and conservative in the way it sounds. Both are beautiful, but continental trumps for me. It's less annoying 🙃
I think Portuguese is very exotic, a little different to other Romance languages .
Mas português, gallego, espanhol e catalão são as línguas mais próximas.
Eu aprendi o portugués falado em Brasil, mas quando descubri o português luso, adorei o sotaque. No começo não entendia muito, mas hoje em dia ja vi muitos vídeos e acostumei o ouvido, até os consigo imitar 😄
E de onde você fala querido?
@@kevynmarques De Chile.
@@1Lua7 tu escreve muito bem, espero algum dia ter esse nível com o espanhol
@@kevynmarques Tu ¨escreves¨, você ¨escreve¨, vós ¨escreveis. De nada.
@@eddu4674 obrigado aurélio do caralho, quando eu quiser a opinião de um otário sobre português de cartilha eu te chamo
O Português de Portugal é mesmo LINDO! E neste vídeo está falado com tanta elegância e amor ...🥰
Im Slovenian speaking Brazilian Portuguese, because i was living with Brazilian woman for more than seven years. I also have a son with her and we speak with each other only in Brazilian Portuguese. The fun fact is that when i hear Portuguese from Portugal, i almost don"t recognize it! Other day i was sitting in the bus here in Slovenia ( in Ljubljana) and there was a group of tourist speaking Portuguese from Portugal and i needed some five minutes to figure it out which language they are speaking! In the beginning thought that it was some slavic language or maybe even Baltic ( Latvian or Lituanian) Portuguese from Brazil is so different that should be own language. It"s also one of the most beautiful languages ( and i speak several languages) in the world!
Just to mention a couple mistakes in the video:
10:53 Baloiço in Portugal and Balanço in Brazil
13:47 Baptismo in Portugal and Batismo in Brazil
We say batismo in European Portuguese. We right it both ways, but say batismo.
It's actually Batismo in Portugal aswell, Baptismo was only before the ortographic agreement
I think I will learn the European first. It sounds smoother.
In Portugal we use Ordernar and Parabenizar, what the portuguese women said was basically what it meant
I wish there were more learning resources to learn European Portuguese. There's not many available.
Theres countless books, courses, etc for Brazilian Portuguese.
Love the european portuguese pronunciation. It sounds so cool and refined to me.
i love european portuguese because sound so different...
I, as a Mexican, and Spanish speaker, found European Portuguese (the Portuguese dialect I speak) more sofisticated and fascinating than the Brazilian one just because of its pronounciation and speed (because, for anybody who doesn't speak portuguese wondering, European Portuguese is spoken fastest than Brazilian). I must confess that European Portuguese can be a bit difficult to understand to ears which never heard portuguese before, but It's worth it if you wanna learn and speak something out of common and beautiful. I want also to mention that Portugal is an extremely BEAUTIFUL country.
I'm very proud of myself because I can speak Spanish, English, Portuguese and I'm learning French.
I love both Brazil and Portugal! (For different reasons though!)
I’ll learn both one day. At the moment, I’m sticking to Brazilian PT, then I will move up to Portugal PT. Also, get into Angolan slang as well.
@@gringa23 Yeah! both, the Brazilian an European dialects of Portuguese are beautiful, but, if you already speak English, I recommend you to learn Spanish first or after Portuguese; I'll tell you why.
Spanish, besides being a too useful language, it's most widely spoken than Portuguese, and if you learned Spanish first, it'll make Portuguese learning easier, besides Portuguese it's also a useful language.
@@gringa23 I wish you luck!
Mexicans are so idi0t 😂😂😂
assistindo e aprendendo umas coisas sobre o português de portugal ahahah ótimo vídeo!
Adorei o vídeo, sou do Brasil, mais um inscrito
Que bacana seu canal! Congrats for the excellent work!!
Really like the video. Just a correction in Luciana way of saying aeromoça. We don’t use it anymore since “moça” is the same meaning of girl. Now we use “comissário de bordo” because it can be use for men or women.
Acho que no português falado a gente usa mais aeromoça/o, não? Só em jornais/propagandas/livros que predominantemente se usa o "comissário de bordo".
@@allanapereira8200 yes, those PC language changes are always diglossic in Brazil.
It is still popularly used, even though officially being "comissária de bordo".
@@allanapereira8200, aeromoça até concordo, mas aeromoço não. Acho muito esquisito olhar pra um homem adulto e chamá-lo de aeromoço. Nos poucos voos em que eu estive, nunca ouvi alguém ser chamado de aeromoço. Era sempre comissário.
Olá! Sou do Brasil. Primeiramente, gostaria de dizer que o vídeo está incrível. Apresenta as diferenças entre o português do Brasil e o português de Portugal de uma forma bastante abrangente, tocando em vários pontos interessantes. Parabéns! Só gostaria de apontar alguns pequenos equívocos, que são totalmente normais para um vídeo que aborda tantos tópicos. Na parte dos pronomes reflexivos você diz que no Brasil diríamos "Sinta-se em casa" e que em Portugal eles diriam "Se sinta em casa". Na verdade é exatamente o contrário. No Brasil predomina o pronome antes do verbo, já em Portugal, depois do verbo. Além disso, ali pelo minuto 10:51, houve uma falta de correspondência entre a palavra que aparecia no vídeo e a palavra que era dita pela convidada, ou seja, no momento em que a convidada portuguesa falou, apareceu a palavra brasileira e, no momento em que a convidada brasileira falou, apareceu a palavra portuguesa. Por fim, no momento em que você fala das diferenças ortográficas, você coloca que no Brasil se escreve "Baptismo". Na verdade não é assim. Em Portugal é que se escrevia "Baptismo" até o Acordo Ortográfico de 1990. Hoje em dia, tanto em Portugal quanto no Brasil se escreve "Batismo".
@Victória Régia Pires acho que os dois são normais pra essa expressão em específico, mas acho que estou mais acostumado com o "sinta-se" ou mais ainda com "fica à vontade"
@Victória Régia Pires Você tem razão. No Brasil nós podemos ouvir as duas formas, no que toca a essa construção em específico. Mas eu penso que ele não quis falar dessa frase especificamente, entende? Acho que ele usou como exemplo pra falar de uma regra geral. E, como regra geral, no Brasil o pronome vem antes do verbo e em Portugal, depois. Por exemplo, aqui no Brasil, o normal é dizer "Me dá um copo", "Eu me levantei cedo hoje" ou "A gente se adapta a tudo". Em Portugal o mais comum seria "Dá-me um copo", "Levantei-me cedo hoje" e "A gente adapta-se a tudo".
@@yanngomes7280 Em Portugal também se coloca o pronome antes do verbo quando o verbo é negado ou quando a frase começa com uma conjunção como "se", "quando", etcetera.
@@manfredneilmann4305 Sim sim. As famigeradas palavras atrativas
@@yanngomes7280 Parece-me que em Portugal não se usa "a gente" muito frequentemente, não é?
Brazilian Portuguese is easier to understand than European Portuguese just like Spanish in southern Mexico is than in northern Mexico. They speak more slowly and syllibically more clearly.
Well, that1s not 100% accurate... I think we really are easier to understand, but it's nothing about to speed. In fact, we talk really fast here, but respecting all the letters in the words. Keep in mind we are a damn huge country, and we'll have a lot of diferents pronunciations around here, but in comparison to Portugal, I think we speak more similiar to english natives.
@@canalmagno Portugal also have tons of different dialects and pronounciation. Here a person from the South can something have trouble to understand a person from the North of the country...
Im from Portugal and I would say Estou patinando and also fila instead of bicha and we also use the verb entender not only perceber…. Some of this information on the European Portuguese seems closer to a more formal Portuguese from textbook or something, Portuguese is much more varied and coloquial.
But, all that aside, Carla did a great job and I appreciate you doing this video
Não falamos tão pausadamente como esta brasileira. Este vídeo faz o português brasileiro paracer um pouco entediante. Os portugueses comem as vogais , ao contrário dos brasileiros . Mas é importante frisar que dentro do Brasil há sotaques diferentes.
Dentro de Portugal também tem muitos sotaques diferentes.
É de conhecimento geral que tanto Brasil quanto Portugal possuem os sotaques regionais, entretanto cada país tem o chamando sotaque padrão. Acredito que em Portugal o sotaque padrão seja o Lisboeta e no Brasil o sotaque de São Paulo ou Rio de Janeiro.
@@guilhermeborges9217 Acreditas não, tens razão (pelo menos no caso de Portugal)!
@@guilhermeborges9217 Acho que o carioca se sobressai mais, até porque o Paulista varia muito, a cidade é muito dividida, tem o sotaque caipiria, o do pessoal da quebrada, o italiano, no Rio é mais padronizado
@@guilhermeborges9217 o sotaque padrão seria mais próximo do de Brasília, que tem o R parecido com o carioca e o S do paulista.
É como é falado nos telejornais.
And, in portugal, we try to hide the "você" word. In brazil they say "você está jogando" but in portugal we say "está a jogar" (formal) or "estás a jogar" (informal). And sometimes we use other words like "a senhora está bonita instead of "você está bonita"
9:22 portugal says sinta-se em casa (formal) too and sente-te em casa (informal)
In Portugal you say "a jogar" instead of "jugando"?
@@JVerde853 yes, in portugal "a jogar" in brazil "jogando"
Sente-te em casa in Brazil would create confusion. To us, it's the imperative form of the verb sentar (to sit). "Ele/ela/você se sente" is obviously a phrase we use, but I feel like we wouldn't make the connection here and feel lost for a good 3 seconds (maybe longer, for low IQ people).
@@AnarchoPinkoEuroBr yes cuz brazil uses você and portugal uses tu. Sente te is "tu" and yes, its imperative. But we use "podes sentir-te em casa" too
In a lot of places você had become just Cê.
So words like Be, If, You, Himself are all pronounced as SE in casual ( pretty much in any circumstance) speech.
I love these kinds of videos!
I always wondered about a video like this between
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brazilian accent is portuguese with italian pronunciation - or as a person who is learning portuguese. The ending vowels shouldn be opened. Italian influences in Brasil. Portuguese accent is like posh english. Brazilian is like an italian portuguese. Regarding gerundio, it is used in some regions of Portugal: Alentejo.
I am Brazilian from th Northeast , Salvador, Bahia , when we r studying Portuguese at school in the elementary school, we learn how to separte syllable , that's why it seems we speak slowy sillable sounds separated , but it depends on person and region and the accent as well . But overall he is correct abou our way to speak.