I like how Jotaro had no reason to assume he could also wager with souls that weren't there, and then the moment Darby makes him wager Kakyoin's soul, confirming that it's possible, he's like "Aight bet. I wager my mother's soul"
Dio's a vampire, he doesn't have a soul. What is it he said? "I'm giving up my humanity, Jojo" something something stand represents his fighting spirit something something his soul is The World something something
I always thought the implication is that D'Arby KNOWS dios stand ability, and because he knows, when he sees jotaro doing that shit with the drink and the cigarette he's like "oh fuck this guy is just like dio he's totally cheating somehow, he stacked the cards in his favor somehow" only to reveal at the end that he didnt
That's an angle I somehow never considered. From his POV he would really be very much like Dio, just that he doesn't know he's just very fast. And like we later see he wasn't even wrong.
I know this is a late reply but I’m pretty sure it’s pretty much confirmed that D’arby knows DIO’s stand ability because Jotaro tells him that he has to wager it in return for his mothers soul and that’s why D’arby gets so nervous
literally what happened, confirmed by the dialogues, jotaro wages his mother's soul and raises D'arby to reveal Dio's stand. Him knowing means Dio will kill him if he speaks, and Jotaro outsmarted him by pretending he cheated then putting Dio's pressure against d'arby, making him faint yes, but also mentally lose as his stand considered he gave up.
My headcanon is that Darby actually knew Dio's secret. Hence when Jotaro lit the cigarette and brought the drink to star platinum so fast that Darby did not see it, he thought that Jotaro had time stop and hence why he was so afraid of it. Especially when linked to that fact that Jotaro demanded to know Dio's secret, and then Jotaro seemingly winning adter it.
See: Crazy Diamond Demonic Heartbreak. Half-canon ish. Dio recruits Darby playing a game of poker with him. He pulls the exact shit Jotaro does but actually switches the cards around with timestop. This, ofc, scares the shit out of Darby alongside Dio's regular scare tactics
@@royalgelly8948he also jerks him off within the Ten Seconds so that means he lost his virginity and if he lost his virginity that means he lost the game
It makes perfect sense, yeah. 👍 If I had to guess the reason that he talked about Star Platinum’s speed is because that’s the intel he had but then he noticed that it looked… *suspiciously* like The World.
There's that saying about the difficulty of writing intelligent characters is they can only be as clever as the author, and beyond that they tend to get "magic mind powers" in place of believable intelligence, and I think this arc does a really good arc of selling how clever these characters are. D'Arby is here for all of 3 short games but comes off as believably one of the most well prepared and cunning opponents the Stardust Crusaders face in their whole journey short of DIO himself. Joseph's old trickster nature rears it's head with a clever cheat and could have earned him the win had D'Arby not already been one step ahead, presumably having been informed about the crusaders prior to meeting them which would likely mean he already knew some about Joseph's cheating nature and would've accounted for it. Jotaro's wits are shown in his ability to quickly figure out what he should actually be trying to do in his poker game (apply psychological pressure to D'Arby) and how to go about doing it effectively.
very true, i talked about that concept in a previous video, can't remember which one. one of my design professors introduced me to the concept "we like to look at interesting things" and "we like to see thought behind art," the same idea of incredible work indicating an incredible artist. but on the other hand, someone doesn't need to be extremely smart to create something we think is amazing, their work just has to excite or inspire us, and a lot of the time it's just a case of refining and tweaking something to perfection, which I think is at least a small part of what makes jojo such an amazing series.
Exactly, if you can't win against a gambler (because he knows and does ALL the tricks) you have to do a different strategy, in this case, psychological torture. Brilliant text.
with writing intelligent characters it also helps that as a writer you can take as much time as you like to figure out their plans. Many intelligent characters (like jotaro) are able to improvise and come up with plans on the spot (that are albeit sometimes a bit over the top). Writing those kinds of traits into a character is a lot easier when you have a day to figure out a plan, rather than the few seconds someone like jotaro has, lol. I do believe anyone could write a scene like the Crusaders v D'arby if given enough time, though of course the more you know, the less time you'd need.
It's also interesting to compare this contest to the one with the younger D'Arby brother. Terence was a lot less cunning than Daniel because he was used to being easily able to win with his truth-reading ability; I seem to recall the characters even commented on how Daniel would have immediately caught the trick that Terence was completely fooled by.
My favourite part of this was the idea that D'Arby actually did know about DIO's stand, which is the reason why D'Arby knew he was in so much danger. If D'Arby actually did not know about DIO's stand, he would not be in any danger to actually make that bet. Think about it like this: let's say that D'Arby won and captured the souls of the Stardust Crusaders. Great, he reports back to DIO, get's rewarded, but... oh no, it turns out another of DIO's informants saw the poker game. DIO learns that D'Arby was so flippant about such sensitive information, which can only be a danger if the threat was credible. Enraged by this, DIO finds and kills D'Arby in an incredibly brutal fashion. That looming threat, the overwhelming danger that DIO poses, is what causes D'Arby to fold. Also, we can all agree that D'Arby the gambler is a much better villain than D'Arby the gamer. Telence had hax and couldn't beat Jotaro, meanwhile Daniel was able to take out two members with just his wits and skill.
Yeah that was the core of Jotaro‘s strategy. If D‘Arby lost, he would have to tell about Dio‘s Stand. If he won he would be known as unreliable by Dio, this killed. His only way out was a third option: going insane and essentially white out.
My favourite thing about the D'arby brothers is that their stands completed their skillset. Daniel was a genious at cheating and how to play around people's tricks, as shown with Joseph, so he has to be beaten by bluffing, aka psychology. Terence was a genius at actually playing, with little cheating involved, but could know if he was being bluffed. Daniel was immune to cheating thanks to his knowledge in games, and has to be defeated by extreme bluffing, while Terence was immune to bluffing thanks to his stand, so he has to be defeated by cheating, because otherwise he would have been unbeatable at games.
i still remember the experience of watching these episodes. it was the first time ever in my life that I genuinely was on the edge of my seat, and eventually was standing up from having too much excitement. the only other time this would ever happen again was when I was watching Jotaro vs DIO. To this day, nothing has given me that same high anywhere else. The D'arby fight solidified to me what a good writer Araki is, and that Jojo would be one of my all time favorites. To be able to make me feel so much emotion as to elicit an actual physical response? No one else but Araki can do that for me.
Yeah, I remember seeing the Maria ( Magnet Stand User ) parts and actually almost choking as I laughed. No other anime has done that to me, other than Konosuba maybe.
@@ruanquang3367 no joke i actually watch professional poker now because of Darby. i learned the rules and even play at some tables sometimes... i suck at it though and always lose which is why i don't do it too often. i'd kill to get Jotaro's confidence and bluffing ability.
“Play the card game” “Wow, I have the best cards. I’m so good. I’m just the absolute best at this game I can’t be beat” *ekenajkansbendjdjbdkslakakjw dies*
Perfect choice for a video. D'arby is always my key reference for talking about the evolution of jojo's writing style. D'arby was the moment Araki unlocked his immense ability to write interesting, engaging encounters.
I think the detail you mentioned about the anime revealing Jojo's win a bit too early ended up heightening the experience. When Jojo's theme starts up, it's clear he's won so you can somewhat relax since the characters aren't in real danger anymore. But, D'arby is a smug arrogant little shit and you *really* want to see him get what's coming to him. So rather than following the generic 3 act emotional structure of "Rising action, climax, then descent into the finale", the anime choses to hit the climax, tease you with the slightest start of a descent, only to suddenly reverse direction into an even higher second climax JUST to really make D'arby's breakdown feel that much more enjoyable. D'arby didn't just lose, he was put under SUCH INSANE pressure from Jotaro that it completely and utterly broke him, and the viewer can't help but go wild at how insane the entire scene was.
that's true, most people's reaction to this scene (in their own mind at least) is that one meme of people silently watching something in the TV of a bar and then screaming and cheering after slmething happens
Kinda similar to his usual win. Jotaro mostly meme'd that he ORAORA his way to defeat his enemies. What usually happen is, he defeat the enemy first, THEN he goes ORAORAORA
8:26 actually, i think d'arby knowing dio's stand is what made this play work for jotaro. D'arby saw that star platinum has the speed and power that dio's stand does, so he was likely considering the possibility that it had the same time stopping ability, meaning now in his mind, it actually _was_ possible for jotaro to switch the cards without him noticing.
10:14 specifically the blu-ray release is uncensored. The censored version was just for Japanese TV broadcasting. The blu ray is uncensored and given a few touch-ups on various key shots
This fight was my favorite fight in Stardust Crusaders by a long margin, so I'm always glad to see more people talk about it. Oh right, the uncensored version is from the Blu-ray release of Stardust Crusaders.
One thing that I love about both D'arby brothers is how poetic their matches are. The gambler is a cheater at heart who outsmarted the best cheater in the gang, yet was beaten by Jotaro who played cleanly. The gamer was a techmaxxer who never cheated but perfected his gampeplay, he defeated the best gamer of the gang, and afterwards was beaten by Jotaro, who cheated to win. Both brothers defeated their biggest counterpart in the Crusaders gang, and both were defeated by Jotaro, who knew just the basics of what they were playing, using the other brother's style. It's just fantastic.
"Horror comedy thriller" is not how I would have described the series, but now that youve said it, you're right. Thats super accurate. Id also add mystery to the list
Also, in a weird way. The D’arby brothers are a first full reveal that people of familial relation can have the same type of Stand. Both Star Platinum and The World having the same abilities and powers later on isn’t that far fetched if you consider the bond between DIO and the Joestars, family wise and spiritually
watching this I had to immediately go rewatch the two episodes. Man, absolutely a high point in the entire series, the tension and resolution are INCREDIBLE
For me, this was the first Stand battle that really set the precedent for what makes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure so special. Hard to predict, intense as hell, and impossible to replicate in another format.
You've convinced me that this fight is perfect. As Joseph is my favorite Jojo, I've always hated how hard he got nerfed in Part 3. I thought the man who's successfully gambled his own life multiple times in Part 2 would be the best person to defeat Darby the Gambler. In the first 3 parts main character is responsible for 90% of success, and I didn't like it. Jotaro has already had a lot of cool battles, so let the old man have this fight for fuck's sake. But as you've said Jotaro learns a lot from this battle. Not to mention if Joseph had to win, and this fight was to be equally tense, everyone else including Jotaro would've had to lose. Actually, as I'm writing this I again think it could be done with Joseph. So now I no longer complain that Joseph didn't win, but I still think with some changes he still could be the sole Darby "survivor" and the fight would've been just as good.
As later fight with Younger Darby shows; Joseph is great cheater, it's just Older Darby were greater cheater. And while Jotaro great at intimidation and determination, they're quite useless with younger Darby who can (limitedly) read his mind.
Yeah, Joseph gets the runback by helping cheat against D’arby Younger, which is great. Especially since he does it without any communication to Jotaro. One thing I notice with Joseph in both parts is that people who expect him to cheat often get an edge on him, and that he gets into a tight spot very quickly if his initial trick fails (exception was with ACDC who he used a double trick on). He’s mostly good at improvising a new trick to save himself, but he went all or nothing against D’arby so he couldn’t get the chance.
I also love Joseph so I'm a little bit biased but I definetely think he should have won this one. Outsmarting people and cheating to win is his whole thing. Jotaro already gets to beat most of the villains so he really did not need this one. That's actually one of my main issues with Part 3, you've got 5 different protagonists but other than Jotaro only really Polnareff gets to shine
Yeah, and another scene that bother me is during the Sun fight, where they all realize the mirror trick, except for Joseph. Yes, even Polnareff realizes it, and Joseph doesn't. Kinda stupid ngl
@@gustavosauro1882i mean, it's mostly a comic relief scene, but yeah, it's dumb. Maybe it's something to do with Joseph aging not so as fine wine but it could be portrayed in a less humiliating way
After finishing watching all the anime parts I went on to read each part in manga form. And doing so made me realize that the two D’arby fights (but this one gets more credit due to coming first) were INTEGRAL to Jotaro’s growth as a combatant. Think about it, did any stand fight before this require him to deceive his opponent with his cool-headed personality and intimidating expression? Not to say he didn’t have to use brains or strategy in previous fights, but the D’arby fights were a game changer in the way he interacts with his opponent. From these fights, he learns how to get into their head. Where am I going with this? His fight with DIO of course. Jotaro only survives because he’s able to constantly get into DIO’s head, coming up with tricks on the fly to convince DIO he’s an unreadable threat and not another helpless victim of The World’s time stop. And I don’t think Jotaro would’ve come up with those plans if he hadn’t been forced to learn that mindset for making them in the D’arby battles.
@@lukewilsontvhey. Have you ever had to spar with smaller kids? They're unstoppable. Like seriously, they have even more energy than adults. Don't underestimate them.
Honestly, this fight was so awesome it got me legit interested in poker and card games, even tho I was usually turned off by them due to how deeply rooted gambling has become in these games now. I just loved the game of risk and deception between Jotaro and Darby, it got me wishing to play it myself (without any gambling involved ofc) This fight perfectly highlighted what makes fights in Jojo so impressively good
The D'arby fights teach us is that a well-executed Batman Gambit is a lot of fun to watch. The most powerful weapon you can use is the one you cannot control, the actions of someone who is not on the same page as you.
The reason is because Hamon is able to be seen by regular people. It’s actually really obvious when it’s being used so if Joseph used it he’d have lost immediately
i feel like the order of characters doesn't get praised enough with how well it sells the intrigue of the fight First opponent being Polnareff is obvious: he acts impulsuivelly so he serves as a way to show off the main threat of Osiris & D'arby Joseph the Cheater being the second opponent serves to clue the audience that this isn't a battle of intellect, in fact, D'arby isn't gambling at all. This is gonna be a Battle of Intimidation & composure then we get to the preamble: Jotaro breaking D'arby's finger sends a clear message, If D'arby wants to scam Jotasro then he better bring his A-game & even that might not be enough so when Jotaro starts faking his cheating D'arby starts to assume how utterly outmatched he was & that's why he admits defeat and then the conclusion confirms that D'arby couldn't be out-gambled so Jotaro just intimidated him instead
I think one major thing that make this encounter stand out so much is how it goes agaisnt most of the fights in part 3. Even if you compare with Steely Dan where circumstance and planning were their biggest weapons, D'arby's encounter feels like something out of part 4 or even part 8
Even though it has been quite a few years since I’ve watched part 3 and have forgotten many a detail, the D’arby fight is something I have always managed to clearly remember and continues to be one of my favorite fights from part 3 to this day
I like how in the anime his face gets blacked out as he smokes a cigarette, legitimately hiding his face much like how a poker face hides one’s emotions. It’s fucking peak this entire “fight”
My cannon is that d'arby knew dios stand abilities, and when he saw the similarities he figured out star platinum is the same stand, meaning that he was in too deep and though that jotaro changed the cards by stopping time, uptimately making it the perfect bluff
First, this has always been my favorite fight in part 3, and possibly in the whole series. On a completely separate note, I need to correct some misinformation in this video. At 11:05, "breaking down the phonetics and finding links between [English and Japanese]" is a gross misunderstanding of Japanese. There is no phonetic link between the phrase "thank you" in English and how one would say "thank you" in Japanese. The writing used for the phrase "sankyuu" is called "katakana" and it's used explicitly for onomatopoeia and foreign words; it's literally an English word approximated using native Japanese sounds. Any apparent phonetic link is only because Japanese people are literally speaking English. On a similar note "gyangusutaa" is not a Japanese word; it's an English one; Japanese and English do not share any phonetic roots. It would be like saying we found a phonetic link between English and French because "deja vu" sounds so similar in both languages, when in reality it's a French phrase that has been popularized in English. Bonus fact: Japanese has an extremely "regular" alphabet, which means that each character typically only makes one sound every time that it appears. This has the benefit that Japanese people don't need to question how to pronounce something written (kanji is an exception), the characters literally spell out the pronunciation of the words.
this is the first video of yours that ive seen and its great. im not trying to be mean but a small criticism i have is that after every line you read, you look down to check your script. if i were you i'd cut that part out or just have them as voiceover lines if that isn't possible
big fan of your editing style and analysis! your writing style too also absolutely matches the casual silly vibe jojo has for me, it pairs really well and i wanted to compliment you for it!
I especially love how after D’Arby had leverage so they couldn’t just kill him he basically challenged the protagonists to a game where cheating is only against the rules if they don’t get caught. As if to say “I’m going to cheat and you won’t be able to catch me and even if you’re also cheating I’ll still win.” He came extremely close to making good on this too, literally and figuratively beating Joseph at his own game. That’s also part of why he’s a better character than his brother, who needs to hide his own “not cheating” to stand a chance. Not to mention how differently they used the souls they’d collected. Both of them could have put them in coins and collect them as novelties but one of them instead put them in dolls to torture. We can only assume that that was an option to both as well and I’m confident that the gambler just didn’t see the pleasure in it. The ability to look through his victims and remember his victories was enough, rather than going and torturing them for some sick pleasure.
Don't forget the absolutely amazing soundtrack that is playing during the coin game and the poker game. It really underlines the mental pressure and deception that is going on between the two players.
11:51 As a self taught and freelance writer of over 10 years, I can confidently say it isnt really that intimidating, just flat out genius. When working on a script, especially a comic/manga, you'll spend days, sometimes weeks on the same scene making sure everything flows together and makes sense, hints at future events, etc. There's so much attention to detail because you're working on the same event until you hate it, then adding stuff on to make you like it more even when you hate it. For manga, it depends on release dates, but you can spend a full day straight revising the same storyboard before drawing it, which will give a similar effect and just be more taxing on you mentally. Im not trying to undermine your statement, just give context from my experience working in comics. It is really impressive how the creator decided to show us these small details and leave some extra stuff behind for people really looking into it like he was at the time.
0:41 I think it’s interesting to see how Araki’s evolving style is reflected in his older characters when he goes back and draws them later! A more famous example would be when Araki went back and gave Midler(high priestess) a full character design for Heritage for the Future, and she bore an uncanny resemblance to Yukako because Araki was drawing Part 4 at the time! It’s clearly Daniel J. D’arby on this new(er) volume cover, but I would guess Araki drew the picture in 2015-2016 because it resembles Tamaki Damo from Part 8! (and he was introduced at around that time)
When i was watching I thought Jotaro grabbing the drink was the nail in coffin, with it happening after Barbie had convinced himself Star Platinum can't be that fast, and regained his composure.
That was a wonderful video, thank you! You got yourself a subscriber! Also, I am currently writing the first draft of an epic fantasy novel where my protagonist faces a similar gambling figure, and the only reason he wins is because of his moderate skill and bloated pride, goading and annoying his opponent until she slips up, and he doesn't even mean to do that, not entirely, he just gets so invested in this fantasy version of dominoes that he loses control. "I am delusional and mentally ill, I can do anything!" as he said. And his opponent doesn't realize that by losing her cool, she is losing the battle by getting caught in arguments. Anyways, thank you for teaching me about writing and good luck with your endeavors.
@@sakesaurus Yeah, don't worry, I won't spoil anything else of my novel! But because of your encouragement, I'll be sure to work at it even harder! Thank you!
Another thing why the fans love this scene is that if it came down to it, Jotaro would have bet his hat, then his Jacket, all the way to his fanon stuffed dolphin
I like to imagine that Darby heard jotaro ask about DIO's stand and misinterpreted it as hinting at the nature of his own stand. If Darby really knew what DIO's stand was about, then seeing Jotaro pulling things out of thin air would have been raising red flags that couldn't possibly be true. Imagine the sudden, seemingly intentional, revelation that some random punk's stand was the same as DIO. The one person with a cheat he couldn't beat, and NOW THERE WERE TWO OF THEM. He could have seen himself as damned either way at that point.
although shown throughout the vid, fucking huge shoutout to the OVA. Both the fight between DIO and D’arby are done extremely well in the OVA, especially in the DUB. They also show Darby eating the damn chocolate in the OVA too, which is a nice touch.
I also want to point out, this is one of the best poker scenes in media. because its one of the few games of poker in media that relies on actually playing poker, and not just getting dealt stupidly impossible hands.
The uncensored versions are from the home media releases as those dont have to follow the strict TV guidelines. The reason why crunchy is censored too is because they usually don't care about about having the best available version - they just take the version that gets delivered to them right before the episode debuts in japan and then never replace or update it. I'm not sure why japan doesnt deliver them uncensored in the first place but it might have something to do with either not wanting to render another version (no censorship but still TV version without the later redrawings and fixes for home media) or not wanting the foreign version be the better way to watch it over the japanese debut. There have been known instances like this before where western publishers were given lower quality footage instead of a remaster or less bonus content than on the jp release to keep japanese consumers from watching through foreign sites or importing foreign home releases.
Noncombat stands are some of my favorite stands. Really makes you get creative to beat some weird ass power. Darby, Alessi, oingo and boingo, and set really stand out in part 3 as some of my favorites
yeah i personally rewatch darby vs jotaro like hundred times because of the psychological aspect of Jotaro's bluff, and the way he built the tension by smoking and drinking cocktail. He did all that with such calm and determination as if he already won the game.
I've had a long standing gripe with the overflowing cup game. In part 2 it's established that hamon energy can hold water in a glass. Joseph even uses hamon at other times in part 3. Yet it seems obvious to me that he should be cheating with hamon. He can still lose, it's just strange the way he chooses to cheat.
I still just love how this fight ends. Jotaro looksmaxxed so hard, D'arby had a fucking stroke and died
Comment of the year right here
@@lukewilsontv lmao thank you
TZD total zoomer death
rizzeed him
Jotaro mogs D'Arby to death.
the fact that this was one of the most intense fights in the series and yet not a single punch was thrown just goes to show how well written it was
But a finger was broken
Technically... ONLY a single punch was thrown
Some of the highest stakes, are not physical altercations, but intellectual/psychological battles.
Anything can be a fight, with the right stakes, motivation and framing.
this is why Kaiji is amazing
I like how Jotaro had no reason to assume he could also wager with souls that weren't there, and then the moment Darby makes him wager Kakyoin's soul, confirming that it's possible, he's like "Aight bet. I wager my mother's soul"
What if he wagered Dio's soul and then folded
@@dillonkeller4477 legendary 1000000000000000iq play
Dio's a vampire, he doesn't have a soul. What is it he said? "I'm giving up my humanity, Jojo" something something stand represents his fighting spirit something something his soul is The World something something
“Imma beat you, on my mama!”
@@dillonkeller4477 That would show cowardice/fear, because he wagers a soul that he sees no value in
I always thought the implication is that D'Arby KNOWS dios stand ability, and because he knows, when he sees jotaro doing that shit with the drink and the cigarette he's like "oh fuck this guy is just like dio he's totally cheating somehow, he stacked the cards in his favor somehow" only to reveal at the end that he didnt
That's an angle I somehow never considered. From his POV he would really be very much like Dio, just that he doesn't know he's just very fast. And like we later see he wasn't even wrong.
I know this is a late reply but I’m pretty sure it’s pretty much confirmed that D’arby knows DIO’s stand ability because Jotaro tells him that he has to wager it in return for his mothers soul and that’s why D’arby gets so nervous
we can't be sure about that because d'arby in the end was too mentally broken to speak.
literally what happened, confirmed by the dialogues, jotaro wages his mother's soul and raises D'arby to reveal Dio's stand. Him knowing means Dio will kill him if he speaks, and Jotaro outsmarted him by pretending he cheated then putting Dio's pressure against d'arby, making him faint yes, but also mentally lose as his stand considered he gave up.
FRIDGE BRILLIANCE. LOVE IT.
My headcanon is that Darby actually knew Dio's secret. Hence when Jotaro lit the cigarette and brought the drink to star platinum so fast that Darby did not see it, he thought that Jotaro had time stop and hence why he was so afraid of it. Especially when linked to that fact that Jotaro demanded to know Dio's secret, and then Jotaro seemingly winning adter it.
Well Darby did know dio's secret, Avdol says that he must because of his reaction to Jotaro asking about his stand ability.
See: Crazy Diamond Demonic Heartbreak. Half-canon ish. Dio recruits Darby playing a game of poker with him. He pulls the exact shit Jotaro does but actually switches the cards around with timestop. This, ofc, scares the shit out of Darby alongside Dio's regular scare tactics
@@royalgelly8948he also jerks him off within the Ten Seconds so that means he lost his virginity and if he lost his virginity that means he lost the game
wasnt expecting a SW pfp lol
It makes perfect sense, yeah. 👍
If I had to guess the reason that he talked about Star Platinum’s speed is because that’s the intel he had but then he noticed that it looked… *suspiciously* like The World.
There's that saying about the difficulty of writing intelligent characters is they can only be as clever as the author, and beyond that they tend to get "magic mind powers" in place of believable intelligence, and I think this arc does a really good arc of selling how clever these characters are. D'Arby is here for all of 3 short games but comes off as believably one of the most well prepared and cunning opponents the Stardust Crusaders face in their whole journey short of DIO himself. Joseph's old trickster nature rears it's head with a clever cheat and could have earned him the win had D'Arby not already been one step ahead, presumably having been informed about the crusaders prior to meeting them which would likely mean he already knew some about Joseph's cheating nature and would've accounted for it. Jotaro's wits are shown in his ability to quickly figure out what he should actually be trying to do in his poker game (apply psychological pressure to D'Arby) and how to go about doing it effectively.
very true, i talked about that concept in a previous video, can't remember which one. one of my design professors introduced me to the concept "we like to look at interesting things" and "we like to see thought behind art," the same idea of incredible work indicating an incredible artist. but on the other hand, someone doesn't need to be extremely smart to create something we think is amazing, their work just has to excite or inspire us, and a lot of the time it's just a case of refining and tweaking something to perfection, which I think is at least a small part of what makes jojo such an amazing series.
@@lukewilsontv I also think that Araki is pretty damn smart himself which is why when he writes intelligent characters he can totally sell it.
Exactly, if you can't win against a gambler (because he knows and does ALL the tricks) you have to do a different strategy, in this case, psychological torture. Brilliant text.
with writing intelligent characters it also helps that as a writer you can take as much time as you like to figure out their plans. Many intelligent characters (like jotaro) are able to improvise and come up with plans on the spot (that are albeit sometimes a bit over the top). Writing those kinds of traits into a character is a lot easier when you have a day to figure out a plan, rather than the few seconds someone like jotaro has, lol. I do believe anyone could write a scene like the Crusaders v D'arby if given enough time, though of course the more you know, the less time you'd need.
It's also interesting to compare this contest to the one with the younger D'Arby brother. Terence was a lot less cunning than Daniel because he was used to being easily able to win with his truth-reading ability; I seem to recall the characters even commented on how Daniel would have immediately caught the trick that Terence was completely fooled by.
One of the best scenes for Jotaro in the series, no cap
He was wearing his cap though.
@@thegatorhator6822 darn it
Yeah, No cap prabobly would Kakyoin or Oingo
One of? It is THE best
No cap was with N’doul
My favourite part of this was the idea that D'Arby actually did know about DIO's stand, which is the reason why D'Arby knew he was in so much danger. If D'Arby actually did not know about DIO's stand, he would not be in any danger to actually make that bet.
Think about it like this: let's say that D'Arby won and captured the souls of the Stardust Crusaders. Great, he reports back to DIO, get's rewarded, but... oh no, it turns out another of DIO's informants saw the poker game. DIO learns that D'Arby was so flippant about such sensitive information, which can only be a danger if the threat was credible. Enraged by this, DIO finds and kills D'Arby in an incredibly brutal fashion. That looming threat, the overwhelming danger that DIO poses, is what causes D'Arby to fold.
Also, we can all agree that D'Arby the gambler is a much better villain than D'Arby the gamer. Telence had hax and couldn't beat Jotaro, meanwhile Daniel was able to take out two members with just his wits and skill.
Wits and skills? My man was also cheating
I understand what you mean tho
@@jestfullgremblim8002Sleight of hand is a skill
@@camtoonzz2271 i mean, any power you have is a "Skill" by definition. So, a stand ability is also a skill hahaha
Yeah that was the core of Jotaro‘s strategy. If D‘Arby lost, he would have to tell about Dio‘s Stand. If he won he would be known as unreliable by Dio, this killed. His only way out was a third option: going insane and essentially white out.
My favourite thing about the D'arby brothers is that their stands completed their skillset.
Daniel was a genious at cheating and how to play around people's tricks, as shown with Joseph, so he has to be beaten by bluffing, aka psychology.
Terence was a genius at actually playing, with little cheating involved, but could know if he was being bluffed.
Daniel was immune to cheating thanks to his knowledge in games, and has to be defeated by extreme bluffing, while Terence was immune to bluffing thanks to his stand, so he has to be defeated by cheating, because otherwise he would have been unbeatable at games.
Jotaro did point that out, about how they would have won if they played together
i still remember the experience of watching these episodes. it was the first time ever in my life that I genuinely was on the edge of my seat, and eventually was standing up from having too much excitement. the only other time this would ever happen again was when I was watching Jotaro vs DIO. To this day, nothing has given me that same high anywhere else. The D'arby fight solidified to me what a good writer Araki is, and that Jojo would be one of my all time favorites.
To be able to make me feel so much emotion as to elicit an actual physical response? No one else but Araki can do that for me.
well part 3 is the best part
@@thecrusader1673wild opinion
Yeah, I remember seeing the Maria ( Magnet Stand User ) parts and actually almost choking as I laughed. No other anime has done that to me, other than Konosuba maybe.
Yea I mean I love the ora ora scenes, but ngl this was just as intense, I didn't know poker could be so intense
@@ruanquang3367 no joke i actually watch professional poker now because of Darby.
i learned the rules and even play at some tables sometimes...
i suck at it though and always lose which is why i don't do it too often. i'd kill to get Jotaro's confidence and bluffing ability.
13:05 "99% of gamblers quit right before winning big"
8:56 works here too
@@Aaa-vp6ugCan't really find it it's decribing the scene instead of the thoughts on it.
@@alexcat6685prolly because it shows jotaro winning big? idk
“Hey cat go left”
“You lost the cat game”
“Roll for precision!”
“20!”
“Not good enough!”
“What do you mean not good enough?”
“Play the card game”
“Wow, I have the best cards. I’m so good. I’m just the absolute best at this game I can’t be beat”
*ekenajkansbendjdjbdkslakakjw dies*
"I get it now, Jotaro's strength is not his speed or precision, but his ability to bullshit everyone"
You don’t have to win, you just have to convince the other person they’ve lost
Perfect choice for a video. D'arby is always my key reference for talking about the evolution of jojo's writing style. D'arby was the moment Araki unlocked his immense ability to write interesting, engaging encounters.
I think the detail you mentioned about the anime revealing Jojo's win a bit too early ended up heightening the experience. When Jojo's theme starts up, it's clear he's won so you can somewhat relax since the characters aren't in real danger anymore. But, D'arby is a smug arrogant little shit and you *really* want to see him get what's coming to him. So rather than following the generic 3 act emotional structure of "Rising action, climax, then descent into the finale", the anime choses to hit the climax, tease you with the slightest start of a descent, only to suddenly reverse direction into an even higher second climax JUST to really make D'arby's breakdown feel that much more enjoyable. D'arby didn't just lose, he was put under SUCH INSANE pressure from Jotaro that it completely and utterly broke him, and the viewer can't help but go wild at how insane the entire scene was.
that's true, most people's reaction to this scene (in their own mind at least) is that one meme of people silently watching something in the TV of a bar and then screaming and cheering after slmething happens
Kinda similar to his usual win. Jotaro mostly meme'd that he ORAORA his way to defeat his enemies. What usually happen is, he defeat the enemy first, THEN he goes ORAORAORA
"It's PEAK Mr. Joestar!" 🔥🔥🔥✍
8:26 actually, i think d'arby knowing dio's stand is what made this play work for jotaro. D'arby saw that star platinum has the speed and power that dio's stand does, so he was likely considering the possibility that it had the same time stopping ability, meaning now in his mind, it actually _was_ possible for jotaro to switch the cards without him noticing.
Still my favorite Jojo episode. It's the moment i was like "This is the greatest show of all time"
I absolutely want a 5 hour mega review of jojo
10:14 specifically the blu-ray release is uncensored. The censored version was just for Japanese TV broadcasting. The blu ray is uncensored and given a few touch-ups on various key shots
i may have to get my hands on a copy🤔
@@lukewilsontv it's definitely worth it, The American blu ray contains both sub and dub and are high quality image wise
This whole time, I had been convinced it was American censorship
Joseph Joestar: what are your thoughts on the five nights at Freddy's movie?
D'Arby's on the thumbnail:
This fight was my favorite fight in Stardust Crusaders by a long margin, so I'm always glad to see more people talk about it.
Oh right, the uncensored version is from the Blu-ray release of Stardust Crusaders.
“If I knew my cards were that bad I would’ve freaked out” two favorite episodes of part 3
One thing that I love about both D'arby brothers is how poetic their matches are.
The gambler is a cheater at heart who outsmarted the best cheater in the gang, yet was beaten by Jotaro who played cleanly.
The gamer was a techmaxxer who never cheated but perfected his gampeplay, he defeated the best gamer of the gang, and afterwards was beaten by Jotaro, who cheated to win.
Both brothers defeated their biggest counterpart in the Crusaders gang, and both were defeated by Jotaro, who knew just the basics of what they were playing, using the other brother's style.
It's just fantastic.
"Horror comedy thriller" is not how I would have described the series, but now that youve said it, you're right. Thats super accurate.
Id also add mystery to the list
*Koichi pose*
Also, in a weird way. The D’arby brothers are a first full reveal that people of familial relation can have the same type of Stand.
Both Star Platinum and The World having the same abilities and powers later on isn’t that far fetched if you consider the bond between DIO and the Joestars, family wise and spiritually
A 5 hour mega review about jojo sounds good to me!
I need more of these, your way of commentary and editing is literally peak, as d'arby would say
watching this I had to immediately go rewatch the two episodes. Man, absolutely a high point in the entire series, the tension and resolution are INCREDIBLE
Damn this is really well produced for such a small channel. Very cool 👍
He’s in need of a hockey stick that’s for sure.
The production and editing of this video is really nice
I just met you 20 seconds ago but please give us a 5 hour mega review of the entire series
yes.
For me, this was the first Stand battle that really set the precedent for what makes Jojo's Bizarre Adventure so special. Hard to predict, intense as hell, and impossible to replicate in another format.
A 5 hour mega review would be cool, but if you dont want to make a video that long, you could split it into a series of videos, one for each part.
Double dip. Make the series, then edit them all together for the five hour review.
You've convinced me that this fight is perfect. As Joseph is my favorite Jojo, I've always hated how hard he got nerfed in Part 3. I thought the man who's successfully gambled his own life multiple times in Part 2 would be the best person to defeat Darby the Gambler. In the first 3 parts main character is responsible for 90% of success, and I didn't like it. Jotaro has already had a lot of cool battles, so let the old man have this fight for fuck's sake. But as you've said Jotaro learns a lot from this battle. Not to mention if Joseph had to win, and this fight was to be equally tense, everyone else including Jotaro would've had to lose.
Actually, as I'm writing this I again think it could be done with Joseph. So now I no longer complain that Joseph didn't win, but I still think with some changes he still could be the sole Darby "survivor" and the fight would've been just as good.
As later fight with Younger Darby shows; Joseph is great cheater, it's just Older Darby were greater cheater. And while Jotaro great at intimidation and determination, they're quite useless with younger Darby who can (limitedly) read his mind.
Yeah, Joseph gets the runback by helping cheat against D’arby Younger, which is great. Especially since he does it without any communication to Jotaro.
One thing I notice with Joseph in both parts is that people who expect him to cheat often get an edge on him, and that he gets into a tight spot very quickly if his initial trick fails (exception was with ACDC who he used a double trick on). He’s mostly good at improvising a new trick to save himself, but he went all or nothing against D’arby so he couldn’t get the chance.
I also love Joseph so I'm a little bit biased but I definetely think he should have won this one. Outsmarting people and cheating to win is his whole thing. Jotaro already gets to beat most of the villains so he really did not need this one. That's actually one of my main issues with Part 3, you've got 5 different protagonists but other than Jotaro only really Polnareff gets to shine
Yeah, and another scene that bother me is during the Sun fight, where they all realize the mirror trick, except for Joseph. Yes, even Polnareff realizes it, and Joseph doesn't. Kinda stupid ngl
@@gustavosauro1882i mean, it's mostly a comic relief scene, but yeah, it's dumb. Maybe it's something to do with Joseph aging not so as fine wine but it could be portrayed in a less humiliating way
0:27 yes please
45 minute breakdown of the entire series coming tonight🔥
@@lukewilsontvYEAAAAAHHHH I have food poisoning so I have nothing better to do- also I’ll watch any jojo content you pump out man keep it up
After finishing watching all the anime parts I went on to read each part in manga form. And doing so made me realize that the two D’arby fights (but this one gets more credit due to coming first) were INTEGRAL to Jotaro’s growth as a combatant. Think about it, did any stand fight before this require him to deceive his opponent with his cool-headed personality and intimidating expression? Not to say he didn’t have to use brains or strategy in previous fights, but the D’arby fights were a game changer in the way he interacts with his opponent. From these fights, he learns how to get into their head.
Where am I going with this? His fight with DIO of course. Jotaro only survives because he’s able to constantly get into DIO’s head, coming up with tricks on the fly to convince DIO he’s an unreadable threat and not another helpless victim of The World’s time stop. And I don’t think Jotaro would’ve come up with those plans if he hadn’t been forced to learn that mindset for making them in the D’arby battles.
don't forget the end of the alessi pt2 where jotaro kicks ass at like age 9
@@lukewilsontvhey. Have you ever had to spar with smaller kids? They're unstoppable. Like seriously, they have even more energy than adults. Don't underestimate them.
Honestly I'm so glad you talked about this episode(s) because it really is one of my all time favorites! And you say it so well!!
1:47 hehe “Breakdown”
BREAK DOWN BREAK DOWN.
Honestly, this fight was so awesome it got me legit interested in poker and card games, even tho I was usually turned off by them due to how deeply rooted gambling has become in these games now.
I just loved the game of risk and deception between Jotaro and Darby, it got me wishing to play it myself (without any gambling involved ofc)
This fight perfectly highlighted what makes fights in Jojo so impressively good
D’arby the gambler has been my favorite episode of Jojo since I was in seventh grade
It’s just so damn good.
The D'arby fights teach us is that a well-executed Batman Gambit is a lot of fun to watch. The most powerful weapon you can use is the one you cannot control, the actions of someone who is not on the same page as you.
These two fights were my FAVORITE in the whole series
Really well made video, good job dude
that was a nice video. ive watched your iceberg vid too. looking forward to the 2nd part!
The biggest complaint I have about this fight is that Joseph didn't use Hamon to keep the tea in the glass still. It would've made perfect sense!
Yeah especially since the entire thing is based on waves and ripples of energy… maybe because the drink was alcoholic? Idk😭
The reason is because Hamon is able to be seen by regular people. It’s actually really obvious when it’s being used so if Joseph used it he’d have lost immediately
i feel like the order of characters doesn't get praised enough with how well it sells the intrigue of the fight
First opponent being Polnareff is obvious: he acts impulsuivelly so he serves as a way to show off the main threat of Osiris & D'arby
Joseph the Cheater being the second opponent serves to clue the audience that this isn't a battle of intellect, in fact, D'arby isn't gambling at all. This is gonna be a Battle of Intimidation & composure
then we get to the preamble: Jotaro breaking D'arby's finger sends a clear message, If D'arby wants to scam Jotasro then he better bring his A-game & even that might not be enough
so when Jotaro starts faking his cheating D'arby starts to assume how utterly outmatched he was & that's why he admits defeat
and then the conclusion confirms that D'arby couldn't be out-gambled so Jotaro just intimidated him instead
I really like this! Descriptive and to the point. I hope to see more content in the future!
D'arby realized star platinums power before jotaro did
I think one major thing that make this encounter stand out so much is how it goes agaisnt most of the fights in part 3. Even if you compare with Steely Dan where circumstance and planning were their biggest weapons, D'arby's encounter feels like something out of part 4 or even part 8
i would LOVE a 5 hour review of the series, I love super long content like that
Incredibly well made, hope this blows up!
Even though it has been quite a few years since I’ve watched part 3 and have forgotten many a detail, the D’arby fight is something I have always managed to clearly remember and continues to be one of my favorite fights from part 3 to this day
the best part is that jotaro has no emotion, he doesn't need a poker face
Actually, he really is good at hiding his emotions.
Had to click like because of showing Iggy at the end. Iggy is best boi.
I like how in the anime his face gets blacked out as he smokes a cigarette, legitimately hiding his face much like how a poker face hides one’s emotions. It’s fucking peak this entire “fight”
My cannon is that d'arby knew dios stand abilities, and when he saw the similarities he figured out star platinum is the same stand, meaning that he was in too deep and though that jotaro changed the cards by stopping time, uptimately making it the perfect bluff
First, this has always been my favorite fight in part 3, and possibly in the whole series.
On a completely separate note, I need to correct some misinformation in this video. At 11:05, "breaking down the phonetics and finding links between [English and Japanese]" is a gross misunderstanding of Japanese. There is no phonetic link between the phrase "thank you" in English and how one would say "thank you" in Japanese. The writing used for the phrase "sankyuu" is called "katakana" and it's used explicitly for onomatopoeia and foreign words; it's literally an English word approximated using native Japanese sounds. Any apparent phonetic link is only because Japanese people are literally speaking English. On a similar note "gyangusutaa" is not a Japanese word; it's an English one; Japanese and English do not share any phonetic roots. It would be like saying we found a phonetic link between English and French because "deja vu" sounds so similar in both languages, when in reality it's a French phrase that has been popularized in English. Bonus fact: Japanese has an extremely "regular" alphabet, which means that each character typically only makes one sound every time that it appears. This has the benefit that Japanese people don't need to question how to pronounce something written (kanji is an exception), the characters literally spell out the pronunciation of the words.
Darby is best antagonist. When I watched it, it felt special like nothing I’ve seen before.
10:11 i know this is old, but there's an uncensored version on Pluto TV.
Immaculate breakdown.
Great video! I gotta say, incredible choice of music. Dry Dry Desert, Meta Knight's Revenge, and the classic JoJo tracks.
this is an amazing video and it taught me even more about darby that i didn’t know. Please make more jojo videos 🙏
I actually do really like how it seemingly doesn't matter who wins or loses the game, only admitting that you've lost.
This applies to every facet of life. Reality isn’t reality, only what you believe to be real
I do agree that Darby Younger is the best fight in all of JoJo, like nothing comes close, and it's execution is also so simple.
Darby the older*
Darby Younger is the gamer
There are better fights. Risotto vs Doppio and Gyro vs Ringo come to mind
Also the beetle fight in part 8
The bettle battle in part 8 is literally a better version of this one.
Finally people appreciating my man D'arby. One of the most underrated character in the entire series 🔥 💪
this is the first video of yours that ive seen and its great. im not trying to be mean but a small criticism i have is that after every line you read, you look down to check your script. if i were you i'd cut that part out or just have them as voiceover lines if that isn't possible
I have since invested in a teleprompter 😋👍
8:22 damn I love a surprise shitpost in the middle of a video essay. Thanks for making my day
big fan of your editing style and analysis! your writing style too also absolutely matches the casual silly vibe jojo has for me, it pairs really well and i wanted to compliment you for it!
New subscriber here from the biggining!!
I especially love how after D’Arby had leverage so they couldn’t just kill him he basically challenged the protagonists to a game where cheating is only against the rules if they don’t get caught. As if to say “I’m going to cheat and you won’t be able to catch me and even if you’re also cheating I’ll still win.” He came extremely close to making good on this too, literally and figuratively beating Joseph at his own game.
That’s also part of why he’s a better character than his brother, who needs to hide his own “not cheating” to stand a chance. Not to mention how differently they used the souls they’d collected. Both of them could have put them in coins and collect them as novelties but one of them instead put them in dolls to torture. We can only assume that that was an option to both as well and I’m confident that the gambler just didn’t see the pleasure in it. The ability to look through his victims and remember his victories was enough, rather than going and torturing them for some sick pleasure.
This might be my favorite "fight" in the entire series. It really changes the way you look at what it means to have a Stand battle.
That episode was my first introduction to the JoJo’s anime on adult swim
I love 5 hour mega reviews
As soon as I saw this as a recommended video from a Darby video that i rewatch on a minthly basis lol, I knew I had to watch
Don't forget the absolutely amazing soundtrack that is playing during the coin game and the poker game. It really underlines the mental pressure and deception that is going on between the two players.
11:51 As a self taught and freelance writer of over 10 years, I can confidently say it isnt really that intimidating, just flat out genius. When working on a script, especially a comic/manga, you'll spend days, sometimes weeks on the same scene making sure everything flows together and makes sense, hints at future events, etc. There's so much attention to detail because you're working on the same event until you hate it, then adding stuff on to make you like it more even when you hate it. For manga, it depends on release dates, but you can spend a full day straight revising the same storyboard before drawing it, which will give a similar effect and just be more taxing on you mentally. Im not trying to undermine your statement, just give context from my experience working in comics. It is really impressive how the creator decided to show us these small details and leave some extra stuff behind for people really looking into it like he was at the time.
0:41 I think it’s interesting to see how Araki’s evolving style is reflected in his older characters when he goes back and draws them later! A more famous example would be when Araki went back and gave Midler(high priestess) a full character design for Heritage for the Future, and she bore an uncanny resemblance to Yukako because Araki was drawing Part 4 at the time! It’s clearly Daniel J. D’arby on this new(er) volume cover, but I would guess Araki drew the picture in 2015-2016 because it resembles Tamaki Damo from Part 8! (and he was introduced at around that time)
When i was watching I thought Jotaro grabbing the drink was the nail in coffin, with it happening after Barbie had convinced himself Star Platinum can't be that fast, and regained his composure.
8:43 MASTER HAS GIVEN DARBY A RAISE, DARBY HAS ANXIETY
That was a wonderful video, thank you! You got yourself a subscriber! Also, I am currently writing the first draft of an epic fantasy novel where my protagonist faces a similar gambling figure, and the only reason he wins is because of his moderate skill and bloated pride, goading and annoying his opponent until she slips up, and he doesn't even mean to do that, not entirely, he just gets so invested in this fantasy version of dominoes that he loses control. "I am delusional and mentally ill, I can do anything!" as he said. And his opponent doesn't realize that by losing her cool, she is losing the battle by getting caught in arguments. Anyways, thank you for teaching me about writing and good luck with your endeavors.
bro don't spoil what if your novel makes it big and I'll have to read it XD
@@sakesaurus Yeah, don't worry, I won't spoil anything else of my novel! But because of your encouragement, I'll be sure to work at it even harder! Thank you!
hell yeah brother stay on the grind, every step is a step towards something bigger
Another thing why the fans love this scene is that if it came down to it, Jotaro would have bet his hat, then his Jacket, all the way to his fanon stuffed dolphin
underrated vid but its rlly cool
I like to imagine that Darby heard jotaro ask about DIO's stand and misinterpreted it as hinting at the nature of his own stand. If Darby really knew what DIO's stand was about, then seeing Jotaro pulling things out of thin air would have been raising red flags that couldn't possibly be true. Imagine the sudden, seemingly intentional, revelation that some random punk's stand was the same as DIO. The one person with a cheat he couldn't beat, and NOW THERE WERE TWO OF THEM. He could have seen himself as damned either way at that point.
The amount of mental gymnastics in just these 5 chapters equal to more than how much there would be in 1000 chess games between grandmasters
Yooooo, another Darby fan
Do a 15 hour mega review of the whole series (with manga) we would all watch that
Easily the best individual conflict/part of all of Jojo's up until Part 6 at least. I've only seen the anime but it's so dang good.
how tf do you only have 789, the video editing is so good
although shown throughout the vid, fucking huge shoutout to the OVA.
Both the fight between DIO and D’arby are done extremely well in the OVA, especially in the DUB.
They also show Darby eating the damn chocolate in the OVA too, which is a nice touch.
We need a short where Yugi and his friends fave the D'arby brothers.
I also want to point out, this is one of the best poker scenes in media.
because its one of the few games of poker in media that relies on actually playing poker, and not just getting dealt stupidly impossible hands.
The uncensored versions are from the home media releases as those dont have to follow the strict TV guidelines. The reason why crunchy is censored too is because they usually don't care about about having the best available version - they just take the version that gets delivered to them right before the episode debuts in japan and then never replace or update it.
I'm not sure why japan doesnt deliver them uncensored in the first place but it might have something to do with either not wanting to render another version (no censorship but still TV version without the later redrawings and fixes for home media) or not wanting the foreign version be the better way to watch it over the japanese debut. There have been known instances like this before where western publishers were given lower quality footage instead of a remaster or less bonus content than on the jp release to keep japanese consumers from watching through foreign sites or importing foreign home releases.
No mention that D'arby was established to have never lost a game and had amassed a massive collection of souls, fuether adding to D'arby's anxiety
Literally the peak of stardust crusaders. was on the edge om my seat the whole time.
Noncombat stands are some of my favorite stands. Really makes you get creative to beat some weird ass power. Darby, Alessi, oingo and boingo, and set really stand out in part 3 as some of my favorites
yeah i personally rewatch darby vs jotaro like hundred times because of the psychological aspect of Jotaro's bluff, and the way he built the tension by smoking and drinking cocktail. He did all that with such calm and determination as if he already won the game.
It wasn't water, it was alcohol
I've had a long standing gripe with the overflowing cup game. In part 2 it's established that hamon energy can hold water in a glass. Joseph even uses hamon at other times in part 3. Yet it seems obvious to me that he should be cheating with hamon. He can still lose, it's just strange the way he chooses to cheat.
very true, darby might've seen the hamon but i agree that joseph should've been more perceptive
Hamon is extremely flashy since its basically spiritual sun energy, so joseph would have been caught instantly which is why he didn't use it.
You earned a sub for this great video