The fuel cell needs purified air for optimal performance. Maybe your air filters were dirty before and they were changed or cleaned during service. There could have also been a software update that unlocked a little more battery capacity, similar to what they did with the bZ4X. Should be interesting to see if your range drops when the fuel cell filters clog up again with pollution.
@@LinusWelt If you can hang on for a while the crown sedan fcev is releasing in japan in autumn and who knows might make it to the states at one point but also honda+gm car have fuell cell hybrid coming out next year and others like bmw have things in the works. I see more development going into fcev in the upcoming years particularly in pickups/suvs
@@LinusWelt Also i see 2026-2028 from what i have been reading for things to pick up a fair amount as improvements in refuelling infrastructure,tanks,fuel cells,less rare materials being used in general all being substantial developments
Possible optimization of refuelling station or associated technology. Also did you notice you got quite close to 5kg. We need to see empty to full fill up where your dash screen says low on hydrogen fill up now. You may be able to get 5.6kg then,also have you ever tried seeing what happens after you fill up then giving it a few minutes and filling up again. I wonder because of pressurization and cooling of process after dispensing.
I have only had a 300 mile range and that was during the first week of having the car. Now i get like 250 and it isnt improving no matter what i do. Maybe it needs a service and then ill see the range go up 🤔
@@jordanbrown7403 I mean the range display on the car before and after filling - how accurate is that? I guess it always depends on how you actually drive, and this seems to be a ‘score’ of your most recent driving style. Hydrogen fuel cells punish you harshly for going fast due to their increased inefficiency at high loads. Not a highway car if you want to get that rated 400 mile range.
@@brushlessmotoring Yeah those two i mentioned give you an idea at different speeds how the range is affected and the former shows camera on urban and highway and the latter guy compares against evs Both have calculations and reasoning and i figured that be good basis to start of from.
@@ispyeli2017 $15,000 at 30 per kg is 500 kg. At 62 miles per kg, that's 31,000 miles (48 cents per mile). I think you would get through that in less than 5 years. In a home charged EV, 31,000 miles at 5 cents per mile will only cost $1,550. There is an argument to made, when cross shopping against an EV, that the $15,000 fuel card is actually only worth $1,500, because you have no choice but to buy the expensive fuel, whereas an EV, you can choose how, where, and for how much you fill - DC fast charging is more expensive, home solar is very cheap - not everyone can do this of course, some people have no easy or cheap access to charging.
@@kiril3189 it will never get that low. It's too expensive to make, too expensive to retail. The US Government is now handing out $3 per kg subsidy, hydrogen drivers are getting free money with every fill-up, and it still won't make it as a cheap as gasoline. If you want really cheap transportation, an e-bike or e-scooter is amazing, if you have to have a car, an EV will always be cheaper than hydrogen, they both use the same source fuel - electricity - but a green hydrogen powered fuel cell uses 3 to 4 times more electricity to go the same distance, hydrogen combustion is even worse, 6 to 12 times more electricity than an EV.
@@brushlessmotoring Have you looked at white natural hydrogen? Its starting to gain traction in several countries. South australia should have a better understanding in 18 months time if its feasiable.
$120 for 360 miles of range. Tesla at home can cost 5-20 dollars to charge and at station 20-30 dollars for 200 miles. Higher cost all around for H2O does not make it comparable to tesla base 38,000 now and tesla well options 50,000. Plus you can add Solar to roof and charge most of the time from home. Don’t think 🤔 H2O is going to take off might work for large cargo ship 🚢 or trains 🚂.
The fuel cell needs purified air for optimal performance. Maybe your air filters were dirty before and they were changed or cleaned during service. There could have also been a software update that unlocked a little more battery capacity, similar to what they did with the bZ4X. Should be interesting to see if your range drops when the fuel cell filters clog up again with pollution.
@@LinusWelt If you can hang on for a while the crown sedan fcev is releasing in japan in autumn and who knows might make it to the states at one point but also honda+gm car have fuell cell hybrid coming out next year and others like bmw have things in the works.
I see more development going into fcev in the upcoming years particularly in pickups/suvs
@@LinusWelt Also i see 2026-2028 from what i have been reading for things to pick up a fair amount as improvements in refuelling infrastructure,tanks,fuel cells,less rare materials being used in general all being substantial developments
Possible optimization of refuelling station or associated technology. Also did you notice you got quite close to 5kg.
We need to see empty to full fill up where your dash screen says low on hydrogen fill up now. You may be able to get 5.6kg then,also have you ever tried seeing what happens after you fill up then giving it a few minutes and filling up again.
I wonder because of pressurization and cooling of process after dispensing.
Longo service tends to fill the tires to about 38 psi which helps with mileage. Perhaps that has helped with your range.
I have 2023 Limited. I'm getting 390-394 range. Toyota rated it at 357. I'm almost at the xle rated range of 402
I have only had a 300 mile range and that was during the first week of having the car. Now i get like 250 and it isnt improving no matter what i do. Maybe it needs a service and then ill see the range go up 🤔
Isn't the estimate genuinely getting closer to being accurate? Mine has been steadily increasing and I'm not close to getting it serviced yet.
How much money do you have left on your fuel card and how many miles have you driven total?
I have gen 1. I think it gets 270 miles somehow
If you run out of Hydrogen how long will the battery last?
zero. that's what Toyota told me.
The battery is there just help with initial roll. It's around 1kw. So, it's not gonna get you anywhere.
Great video. Do you validate the actual distance driven at all, with some sort of gps app somehow?
1001 cars and bjorn nyland
@@jordanbrown7403 I mean the range display on the car before and after filling - how accurate is that? I guess it always depends on how you actually drive, and this seems to be a ‘score’ of your most recent driving style.
Hydrogen fuel cells punish you harshly for going fast due to their increased inefficiency at high loads. Not a highway car if you want to get that rated 400 mile range.
@@brushlessmotoring Yeah those two i mentioned give you an idea at different speeds how the range is affected and the former shows camera on urban and highway and the latter guy compares against evs
Both have calculations and reasoning and i figured that be good basis to start of from.
@@jordanbrown7403 didn't know about 1001 cars - good channel - although, I'd like longer tests to make the average more accurate. Appreciate the info.
@@brushlessmotoring No worries 🙂
My mirai only gives me 256 of range?? 😅 2023
334 miles for 120 dollars. No thank you
Toyota supplies you with a 15k fuel card. Should last you about 5 years
@@ispyeli2017 $15,000 at 30 per kg is 500 kg. At 62 miles per kg, that's 31,000 miles (48 cents per mile).
I think you would get through that in less than 5 years.
In a home charged EV, 31,000 miles at 5 cents per mile will only cost $1,550.
There is an argument to made, when cross shopping against an EV, that the $15,000 fuel card is actually only worth $1,500, because you have no choice but to buy the expensive fuel, whereas an EV, you can choose how, where, and for how much you fill - DC fast charging is more expensive, home solar is very cheap - not everyone can do this of course, some people have no easy or cheap access to charging.
Until we get more Hydrogen plants and infrastructure,, the price will fluctuate a lot. It's gonna take 3-5 years, to be equivalent to gasoline.
@@kiril3189 it will never get that low. It's too expensive to make, too expensive to retail. The US Government is now handing out $3 per kg subsidy, hydrogen drivers are getting free money with every fill-up, and it still won't make it as a cheap as gasoline.
If you want really cheap transportation, an e-bike or e-scooter is amazing, if you have to have a car, an EV will always be cheaper than hydrogen, they both use the same source fuel - electricity - but a green hydrogen powered fuel cell uses 3 to 4 times more electricity to go the same distance, hydrogen combustion is even worse, 6 to 12 times more electricity than an EV.
@@brushlessmotoring Have you looked at white natural hydrogen? Its starting to gain traction in several countries.
South australia should have a better understanding in 18 months time if its feasiable.
$120 for 360 miles of range. Tesla at home can cost 5-20 dollars to charge and at station 20-30 dollars for 200 miles. Higher cost all around for H2O does not make it comparable to tesla base 38,000 now and tesla well options 50,000. Plus you can add Solar to roof and charge most of the time from home. Don’t think 🤔 H2O is going to take off might work for large cargo ship 🚢 or trains 🚂.