hey man im also interested in this conversion, but i dont find that much to read about it (as not many people have done it yet i guess) do you have any references on who already has a build like that?
B58 gen 2’s with DP & E54 tune put low 500’s & low 600ish tq. The stock DI can’t handle more than E54 without port injection. On pump 91 (here in AZ that’s all we get) they’re low 400’s. Can’t wait to see the finished project of this! B58’s are going to become the new JZ’s in the future 👀
@@josha2222 why do people praise the 1J when the 2J is better? Why is the sky blue? How does the posi-trac on a Plymouth work? People like what they like, tf does it matter 🤷🏼♀️
You’re right s58 is the superior engine, but the b58 is way more accessible. Came in significantly more vehicles and price of entry is like 1/4th the price.
Soooo this makes sense, Adam mentioned maybe running a different chassis at different tracks for FD next year. I could see this being the big huge horsepower car for the bank tracks and the e36 for the smaller/tighter tracks
This looks like it would be a development car maybe for doing that in the future - I think because they don’t seem to be doing the usual FD spec engine bay things yet?
I like the way you guys are going about this . Ecu then run what it’s got and replace as necessary since this isn’t a comp car. Basically you’re going to come up with drift capable stage 1 stage 2 etc so your power grows with your skill. Look at all the jzx cars that run and run at the schools in Japan. SEAT TIME first . Forget about chasing power for now.
The charge coolers are restrictive, you'll gain 50hp on the same boost by running a good front mount and a decent forward facing inlet plenum. Get Plazmaman involved!
I love these guys. If I had this 6 months ago, I would have considered doing a B58 swap instead of the 1JZ GTE I fought so hard to get. I will be watching this series none the less. Very interesting to see how it turns out.
Hell yeah! This is a dream swap in 2 timeless chassis! Just wondering if you guys have thought about welding the spacers to each mount? This way it can't get messed up during install. Keep making awesome stuff!
Papadakis removes the DI in the b58 and they have no problems keeping them together. Im pretty sure they still don’t use it today. I think the n54 may just suck. B58 is definitely a winner it only took bmw how many generations of turbo motors to get it right?? Great work as always boys.
Can y'all please consider developing a rear sump compatible subframe for E30s? I've seen a few but they always look like someone's first attempt lol. These B58 mounts inspire confidence that y'all could make something that looks good and works well. You guys could single-handedly take down the scummy E34 oil pan market and allow motors newer than M54 to be installed in E30s by regular people. A true community service. This E46 will be cool to see either way, but my heart lies with the E30.
Always great videos. Even if I never touch a bmw engine I learn so much about the design and processes that went into it. And I get to see some very cool tools in use. I’m building a Toyota 2uz v8. $650 motor, supercharger available and a torque monster. I’m hoping a set of 1uz heads will let me get it up to 7500 rpm. 2j aren’t the only good motors Toyota built. V8 that’s not an LS. ✌️
Sunday morning, Drift HQ morning in Belgium! Cricket singing "Pump up the Jam" a Belgian hit song...what can I ask more to feel at home and start the day 😂
Was hyped to see a ecu for b58 swaps coming. But modding the shit out of the engines is a deal breaker for me. I would like to keep the b58 oemish in a 46 shell as a streetcar
We could go that route but we want it to be as reliable and serviceable for drifting. All the plastic nonsense for stock applications isn't it. If it goes well we'll see about a street oriented car!
Hopefully you'll be using a new angle kit something that isn't FDF, Wisefab or SLR. Maybe try the new pro series E46 CNC71. This is a really cool idea E46 are still cheapish and B58's are cheaper than 2JZs. Can't wait to see Adam compete in this. Just to put it out there for the body kit HM Sports Aero? Denofa Spec?
For street cars, active heating of the oil during warmup is important, especially for the transmission. But factory oil pump, bearing and ring clearances even depend on it. Not sure yet how much faster they will fail when the friction materials/LG8 spec fluid operate through temps outside their design limits but it will be suboptimal. Warmup is increasingly critical for street cars, and 8HPs aren't cheap to rebuild. I understand this is a race build, but given its the first, getting rid of the 'octopus' as a first step may not be so good- it is at least neatly packaged, reliable, and fits. The stock cooling system is not stressed by cooling the oil btw, as long as it has capacity (you just have to scale it, if you up fueling). If you were to make it work with the stock cooling first, you could also produce more content on removing each 'plastic fantastic', investigating and tweaking the methods and software mods needed. Maybe even get more views (and collabs!) to support your (great, btw) project. At the end of the day, B58s are not 2Js; doing so many mods in one go could easily kill an expensive patient. I'd even keep the stock intake until a replacement can be tested and compared to the stock setup, which would still be great at the track (and for a street driven e46 like most people have, will be beyond incredible).
Love it, I've been thinking about this swap for a long time, but scared to jump into it. Your project will help out others tremendously. On a side note, will you guys take on the job of people shipping an E46 and an S58 to you and have you perform the install? (Once you have the process down of course, and if you decide to take on these projects) :)
you have no idea how hyped i am for this, been wanting tio b58 swap my e36 for a while now and this will come in very handy, really curious on how it will hold up to drifting conditions. doesnt aasbo run b58 in FD?
Just for the comment that the DI engines don't survive on port injection, the papadakis b58's are port injection only. But good to see ecu companies doing more DI, even tho very few do 6 cyl native di control, and di drivers are still a costly add-on
They do in fact make 400 stock...at the wheels. Downpipe and tune can get you 500+ and you obviously are going to run e50 too Never heard of the intake manifold cracking...but people do upgrade to better designed aluminum ones all the time. They also add port injection there
Why tear up a m3? Even having money I see no point. I mean the m3 diff is the only plus side but those are still trash with real power the mini side stub fails. I just sold my e46 m3 and bought a 330ci because I just didn’t see the point in Ls swapping a m3. unless that car was already ruined and cut up I guess. Mine was mint and original so it would have been stupid to swap. I can’t wait to see what you guys do. You do great work regardless of the car.
DI controll is big, affordable DI controll is HUGE. Awesome work by link
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This is why I love you guys ... you show the real work that needs to be done . Develop you’re own parts and make it look show quality 🙌
Thank you for watching!
this is my dream swap for my E46 drift car, good job!!
hey man im also interested in this conversion, but i dont find that much to read about it (as not many people have done it yet i guess)
do you have any references on who already has a build like that?
You can do it too! Thanks
B58 gen 2’s with DP & E54 tune put low 500’s & low 600ish tq. The stock DI can’t handle more than E54 without port injection. On pump 91 (here in AZ that’s all we get) they’re low 400’s.
Can’t wait to see the finished project of this! B58’s are going to become the new JZ’s in the future 👀
Why do some people praise B58 when S58 is better in every possible way
@@josha2222 why do people praise the 1J when the 2J is better? Why is the sky blue? How does the posi-trac on a Plymouth work? People like what they like, tf does it matter 🤷🏼♀️
@@josha2222because B58 powered cars are cheaper and the motor can handle the same power
You’re right s58 is the superior engine, but the b58 is way more accessible. Came in significantly more vehicles and price of entry is like 1/4th the price.
Plenty of power! It's going to be sick
I didn’t know o was interested in seeing what it takes to put a B58 into an E46 but thanks for showing me how interested I really am.
Stay tuned
Soooo this makes sense, Adam mentioned maybe running a different chassis at different tracks for FD next year. I could see this being the big huge horsepower car for the bank tracks and the e36 for the smaller/tighter tracks
Really what video was that?
@@johnnyboyg i think that vid was when after the crash
@@kzgamerph2125 oh okay I’ll watch it again and see but thanks 🙏🏼
This looks like it would be a development car maybe for doing that in the future - I think because they don’t seem to be doing the usual FD spec engine bay things yet?
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Already know this is gonna be a pissa video fellas 👌🏾 keen to see this thing done 🤙🏾🇦🇺
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Awesome swap idea. Great to see you guys developing parts for this.
Thank you!
Nice, so glad link is working with DI. The tuning options are difficult using the stock dme and a jb4.
Couldn't agree more!
I like the way you guys are going about this . Ecu then run what it’s got and replace as necessary since this isn’t a comp car. Basically you’re going to come up with drift capable stage 1 stage 2 etc so your power grows with your skill. Look at all the jzx cars that run and run at the schools in Japan. SEAT TIME first . Forget about chasing power for now.
was so awesome meeting you guys at LS fest and having our pit across from you guys !
The boys told me about y'all!
This is the swap I've been wanting to do for my e46 when my engine eventually lets go (260k miles lol). I am excited to see how it goes!
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Drift HQ is ONTOP of things 😊
SAUCE
Love it. Excited to see how this goes especially with the cooling system setup and all of the wiring to keep all the oe functions working 👍👍👍
You and me both!
The charge coolers are restrictive, you'll gain 50hp on the same boost by running a good front mount and a decent forward facing inlet plenum. Get Plazmaman involved!
For sure!
b58 is uses air to water not air to air
although you are indeed correct on the forward facing intake
E46, B58, E85. Bingo!
Let's goooo
I love these guys. If I had this 6 months ago, I would have considered doing a B58 swap instead of the 1JZ GTE I fought so hard to get. I will be watching this series none the less. Very interesting to see how it turns out.
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Great, waiting for a swap kit
Mounts are available right now
very interested to follow along to this build series.
Been wanting to do this in my e36 M3. Following for sure! 🙌🏻
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Wagner tuning has a “race” manifold that is similar to a traditional intake manifold to let you run a fmic and it adds port injection
Heck yeah!
Hello there! Have a great Weekend!🙌🏼🙌🏼
Same to you 💚
@@DriftHQ Thank you bro!💚
It’s exciting to see ECU’s starting to support DI. But I also wonder, how about the Valvetronic?
I believe it'll control it!
Hell yeah! This is a dream swap in 2 timeless chassis! Just wondering if you guys have thought about welding the spacers to each mount? This way it can't get messed up during install. Keep making awesome stuff!
Good idea for sure! Thank you
Yes please! Push the envelope! Love from South Africa
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Papadakis removes the DI in the b58 and they have no problems keeping them together. Im pretty sure they still don’t use it today. I think the n54 may just suck. B58 is definitely a winner it only took bmw how many generations of turbo motors to get it right?? Great work as always boys.
I would love to see you guys do a e46 S55 for the guys who like some Powa😎
Oh baby
Can y'all please consider developing a rear sump compatible subframe for E30s? I've seen a few but they always look like someone's first attempt lol. These B58 mounts inspire confidence that y'all could make something that looks good and works well. You guys could single-handedly take down the scummy E34 oil pan market and allow motors newer than M54 to be installed in E30s by regular people. A true community service. This E46 will be cool to see either way, but my heart lies with the E30.
Possibly!
Super sick video series concept I’m excited to see the rest
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Always great videos. Even if I never touch a bmw engine I learn so much about the design and processes that went into it.
And I get to see some very cool tools in use.
I’m building a Toyota 2uz v8. $650 motor, supercharger available and a torque monster. I’m hoping a set of 1uz heads will let me get it up to 7500 rpm.
2j aren’t the only good motors Toyota built. V8 that’s not an LS. ✌️
Glad you like them!
Sunday morning, Drift HQ morning in Belgium! Cricket singing "Pump up the Jam" a Belgian hit song...what can I ask more to feel at home and start the day 😂
Greetings from your northern neighbour !
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Great Video!
Amazing content, as always.
Glad you think so! Much love brother 💚
i’m glad to see this getting done, s54’s are getting more expensive and harder to find.
True that!
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Ganggggg
Was hyped to see a ecu for b58 swaps coming. But modding the shit out of the engines is a deal breaker for me. I would like to keep the b58 oemish in a 46 shell as a streetcar
Thats what we did👌
@@NVMotorsportUK yh we Just need all the stuff fabbed up for a kit to buy
We could go that route but we want it to be as reliable and serviceable for drifting. All the plastic nonsense for stock applications isn't it. If it goes well we'll see about a street oriented car!
I am def doing this to my e46
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There's a couple done at nv motorsport, done know if help or not. Good luck, cool swap.
Thank you!
Very nice im intressted to see what you guys can make these engines do,just seen adam zelewski (DM) making the switch and it looks very promising. 🤟✌️
Fingers crossed!
I had that type of build in mine but never have the funds to do it.. i know this is going to be epic
Thank you!
@@DriftHQ i appreciate your content.. Jamaica represents 🇯🇲
ive wanted to see this for a while
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very interesting
Glad you think so! 💚
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Hopefully you'll be using a new angle kit something that isn't FDF, Wisefab or SLR. Maybe try the new pro series E46 CNC71. This is a really cool idea E46 are still cheapish and B58's are cheaper than 2JZs. Can't wait to see Adam compete in this. Just to put it out there for the body kit HM Sports Aero? Denofa Spec?
I like it, But why no Roll Center correction Bushes at the real Axle?
You have to make the harness use the same plugs and a couple to circuit it and understand 0:01
We'll see what Link does
I’m 13 drift and have an e46 bout to be next Adam lz
Heck yeah bro!
You can do it!
Stay focused and you can do it 🤙🏼
Stay motivated bro! You got this
Inspire yourself to be the next you!
want to see a vr38dett swap drift car have not seen any content on it.
The background music is tight!
Thank you!
This thing is gonna be insane 😂😂
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Okayyy LGGOOOO
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I love b58
It's very promising
Are you guys going to keep the valvetronic (variable valve lift), or are you gonna set it to max lift and control throttle with a throttle body?
Sounds like grandma's Bingo game, take a listen of just one part, LOL... 4:09
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For street cars, active heating of the oil during warmup is important, especially for the transmission. But factory oil pump, bearing and ring clearances even depend on it. Not sure yet how much faster they will fail when the friction materials/LG8 spec fluid operate through temps outside their design limits but it will be suboptimal. Warmup is increasingly critical for street cars, and 8HPs aren't cheap to rebuild. I understand this is a race build, but given its the first, getting rid of the 'octopus' as a first step may not be so good- it is at least neatly packaged, reliable, and fits. The stock cooling system is not stressed by cooling the oil btw, as long as it has capacity (you just have to scale it, if you up fueling).
If you were to make it work with the stock cooling first, you could also produce more content on removing each 'plastic fantastic', investigating and tweaking the methods and software mods needed. Maybe even get more views (and collabs!) to support your (great, btw) project. At the end of the day, B58s are not 2Js; doing so many mods in one go could easily kill an expensive patient.
I'd even keep the stock intake until a replacement can be tested and compared to the stock setup, which would still be great at the track (and for a street driven e46 like most people have, will be beyond incredible).
How are you gonna power the power steering pump on the b58 or are you adding eps?
I thought you were going down!! 🤣💯🔧🚗🏁®️
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You need to flip the steering rack bolts, so you dont need to drop your subframe when you need to change the rack.
Thanks for the tip
HALTECH IS THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK AND STAND ALONE FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
They're cool too!
Woot
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Love it, I've been thinking about this swap for a long time, but scared to jump into it. Your project will help out others tremendously. On a side note, will you guys take on the job of people shipping an E46 and an S58 to you and have you perform the install? (Once you have the process down of course, and if you decide to take on these projects) :)
Thank you!
More!!!
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Sick build! I'd still gap him in my 2J swapped E46 tho 😂
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What method do you use for the subframe and dish bushing removal? I seen a MAP torch in the background
We have done it every way. Usually drill and hit is the best if it doesn't fit in the press
you have no idea how hyped i am for this, been wanting tio b58 swap my e36 for a while now and this will come in very handy, really curious on how it will hold up to drifting conditions. doesnt aasbo run b58 in FD?
Glad we could help!
Anything for e90 chassis
335xi b58 mated to the awd manual transmission is my goal in the future when kids finish school 😂
I would love to see a b85 swap in something
I had a feeling the B58s were gonna be the new good ass engine that people are gonna swap into things
Hope so!
Will that Oil cooler/ filter housing delete fit a B46/48 engine?
Not sure! Will check
When is the build on tj Supra gonna start ?
Soon!
Just for the comment that the DI engines don't survive on port injection, the papadakis b58's are port injection only.
But good to see ecu companies doing more DI, even tho very few do 6 cyl native di control, and di drivers are still a costly add-on
Oh we know from our past n54 experience
Was this Freddy’s old 46 that hit the green shed? What happened to that thing!
It's not, it's another buddies car Freddy's old car is one of our rentals now
Drift games drove it during drift week 5 as well
@@DriftHQ Sicc! Glad that thing is still kicking around. Y’all’s old Phoenix wide body 46 is here in Austin, Tx. Things crazy clean up close!
Will motor mounts be available to public?
Yes!
What's the part number for the bosch power steering if you could share it
Please tell me the e9x chassis is in the works also!!
Aha.. done did😅
Of course in Europe! Y'all had it first. 😉 Any tips appreciated 🙏
Subbed, I need to see this :D
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testing the B58 before building TJ hunts supra?
Maybe!
wish u guys made mounts for the E9X 😞😞
If there's enough demand
Do you guys make something to fit the b58 to a zf.
PMC adapter to N54 Transmission could technically bolt on a ZF with some modification 🤔
@@DriftHQ oh alright. Thanks
You guys recently went to ls fest. Put a v8 in some new build
Soon enough!
Does the N52 transmission remain in the N54 engine or does an adapter need to be used... and if you sell the adapter?
Wouldn't recommend it. Weak for that application. It's all possible for sure though
Would this fit a BMW e86 z4 coupe?
Papadakis on speed dial😂
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Please use a dct transmission
No! Haha. We want a true h pattern that's easy to control
I assume this will work with s58 too?
Maybe. We'll confirm
Get a metal oil filter housing!!
Thanks for the suggestion
This a new procar or pro car level beater
Just fun for now
No one caught the Outkast "Speakerboxxx" reference??
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@@DriftHQ th-cam.com/video/wJknBM5je6Y/w-d-xo.html
We wanna see the 335i (n54)
Unfortunately it's analog DI which can't be controlled by this ECU
They do in fact make 400 stock...at the wheels. Downpipe and tune can get you 500+ and you obviously are going to run e50 too
Never heard of the intake manifold cracking...but people do upgrade to better designed aluminum ones all the time. They also add port injection there
can you make mounts for e92 to b58
Maybe soon!
16:43 BMW WORLD famous plastic trash.. 😂 I can say that I own em
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Not sure if steel it or stole it haha
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So one Voodoo Pro + 2x 4DI drivers?
Yes sir!
Guys I want one please, right hand drive. What will it take?
A lot of development and a car please
Why tear up a m3? Even having money I see no point. I mean the m3 diff is the only plus side but those are still trash with real power the mini side stub fails. I just sold my e46 m3 and bought a 330ci because I just didn’t see the point in Ls swapping a m3. unless that car was already ruined and cut up I guess. Mine was mint and original so it would have been stupid to swap. I can’t wait to see what you guys do. You do great work regardless of the car.
We already had this car
Any plans on making a B58 E30?
We first need an e30
What email can I contact you guys on?
@@DriftHQ Might have one for you guys to use